Ninth Series, Vol. V; No. 40 Monday, May 14, 1990 Vaisakha 24, 1912 (Saka}
LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Second Session (Ninth Lok Sabha)
( Yol. V eontain.r NoJ. 31 IO 40)
LO.K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Prlr� · R.6, 6.00 CONTENTS
[Nmth Sefles Vol V. Second SessIOn. 199011912 (Saka)]
No 40, Monday May 14, 1990, Valsakha 24,1912 (Saka)
CoLUMNS
Obituary Reference 1-2
Oral Answers to QuestIons 3-26
·Starred Question Nos 802 to 804 and 806
Wrrtten Answers to Questions 27-393
Starred Question Nos 800 801,805,807 27-60 to 815, 817 and 819
Unstarred Question Nos 8452 to 8480, 60-369 8482 to 8490, 8492 to 8514, 8516 to 8548, 8550 to 8555, 8557 to 8579, 8581 to 8617 and 8620 to 8633
Papers Laid on the Table 393-394
Matters Under Rule 377 394-400
(I) Need to provide funds to connect N H No 52 394-395 wIth N H No 37 In Tmsukla district of ASSam at the earliest
Shn Laete Umb~ey '"The Sign + marked above the name of a Member IndICates that the questIOn was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member (Ii)
CoLUMNS
(ii) Need to allocate more funds during Eighth Five 395-396 Year Plan for construction of Hipparagi Dam across Krishna river
Shri C.P. Mudala Giriyappa
(iii) Need to construct an airport at Shirdi in Maharashtra
Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Patil
(IV) Need to allot the land earmarked for forests to 396 the tallotess people 10 Rajasthan
Shn Bega Ram
(VI Need to take steps tor redressal ot hardships of beedi 397-398 workers of Kasargod and Cannanore districts of Kerala
Shri M. Ramanna Rai
(VI) Need for construction of tube-wells instead of wells 398 under Jpevan Ohara Scheme in Baroda district
Shrt Prakash Koko Brahmabhatt
(VII) Nepd to provide drinking water in \!illages and towns 398-399 Of Ahmedahad Emfl Bhavnagar districts of GUJarat
Shri Ratital Kalidas Varma
(viii) Need to set up an Alurrnna plant in North Coastal 399---400 Andhra Pradesh
Shri K. Rama Mohan Rae
Demands for Grants (General). 1990-91 400-522
Ministry of Water Resources and Ministry of Agriculture
Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev 404-411 (iii)
CoLUMNS
Shri Vuvraj 411-414
Shri Laeta Umbrey 414-415
Shri Ramjilal Yadava 416-420
Shri A.K. Roy 420-426
Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Patil 426-430
Dr Khushal Parasram Bopche 430-435
Shrl Krrpal Singh 435-440
Shn uasar Chowdhary 440-444
Shrr Nrtrsh Kumar 444-450
Shrr N. SundararaJ 450-455
Shrr Kapil Dev Shastri 456-458
Shn Lokendra Singh 458-460
Shrr Dharam Pal Sharma 461-463
Shn Bhogendra Jha 463-465
Shn Balgopal Mishra 465-467
Shn PlY are Lal Handoo 467-470
Shn Chhedl Paswan 470-472
Shn Jagannath Srngh 472-473
Shrrmatr Brmal Kaur Khalsa 473-475
Shn Manubhar Kotadia 475-~;o2
Shrr Upendra Nath Verma 504-522 (iv)
Half-An-Hour Discussion
Drought prone districts in Bundelkhand region
Kumari Uma Bharati 523-531
Shri P.R. KumaramangaJam 531-534 ~
Shri Upendra Nath Verma 534-541 LOK SABHA Da,ATES
LOKSABHA also actively associated with various organi- sations engaged in the upliftment of women.
An able parliamentarian, she took keen Monday. May 14. 1990Naisakha 24.1912 interest in the prooaeclings of the House and (Saka) made valuable contribution thereto.
Shrimati Bhattacharya passed away at Chandernagar in West Bengal on 20th April, The Lok Sabha met at four minutes past 1990 at the age of 71. Eleven of the Clock We deeply mourn the loss of this friend [MR. SPEAKER in the Chait1 and I am sure the House will join me in conveying our condolences to the bereaved [English] family.
OBITUARY REFERENCE The House may now stand in silence for a short while as a mark of respect to the MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I have departed soul. to inform the House of the sad demise of Shnmati Indumati Bhattacharya who was a (The Members then stood in silence for a member of the Eighth L\lk Sabha during short while) '984-89 representing Hooghly constituency of West Bengal.
A teacher by profession, Shrimati Bhat~ 11.07 hrs. tacharya was rectptent of National Award for Teachers in 1978-79. A well-known social ORAL ANSWERS TO OUESTIONS worker, she took keen interest in the activi- ties of the Bharat Sewak Samaj. She was [English]
MR. SPEAKER: Shri Hukmdeo Narayan Yadav Not present
Shri Suresh Kodikkunnil Not present
Shri B.N. Reddy Not present
Approach Paper to Eighth Plan to state: (a) whether a meeting d the Minister, + members of the Planning Commission was *802. SHRI B.N. REDDY: convened recently to study the Approach SHRI UTTAMRATHOO: Paper to the Eighth Plan;
Will1he PRIME MINISTER be pleased (b) if so, whet'her the Approach Paper 3 Oral Answers MAY 14,1990 Oral Answers 4 was approved; and is concerned with is, what has com$ out in the press. I think you should discount much (c) the time by which it will be presented of it. There is total coordination and unison in to the National Development Council for functioning. (Interruptions) approval? MR. SPEAKER: Prime Minister, I think, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has not satisfied him fully. MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- ( Interruptions) GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): (a) and (b). Yes, SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: It is sald that Sir. There were wide ranging discussion on the Government wants to give statutory status different aspect~ relating to the approach, to the Yojna Bhavan. May I know how long and in the light of these diSCUSSions, some will it take? revIsion was suggested. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: (C) The Approach Paper is proposed to Sir, this was one of the ideas proposed. But be placed before the National Development the Government has not yet taken a final Council at Its next meeting scheduled for view on this. 156.1990. SHRIMATI UMA GAJAPATHI RAJU: SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: ls it a fact that Sir, economic say that, as compared to the the Planning Com miSSion was not consulted Seventh Plan which is a growth-oriented when the Export Import Policy was declared? plan, in the Eighth Plan, the growth rate will decline. I would like to ask the hon. Prime SHRI BHAGEY GOBARDHAN: Sir, this Minister or the Minister at assure us that this IS a question which. I think, IS out of the will not be the case and we will not regress purview of thiS very question which has been economically because, at the moment, the asked by tne han Member. So. I am not in a Eighth Plan is only emphasising on agro- position to say right now. But. I wiil tell him based industries. If there is no emphasis on subsequently. the industrial sector, we all know, that the growth rate will d~line. Can I have an an- SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: So. far. there swer from the Minister? has been a feeling In the YOJna Bhavan that theIr suggestions are not heeded to, they are SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: not taken care 01. And It was with this inten- May I assure the hon. Member that even in tion that I wanted to know the reply from the the assessment of the Planning Commis- Minister. They also say that the approach or sion, the growth rate they expected will not the strategy that was followed by the Plan- be lower than what the Seventh Plan has. ning Commission IS not to the liking of the So, she' might dispel that fear. (Interrup- Prime Minister also Under these circum- tions) stances. I have asked it. Please reply. MR. SPEAKER: The Prime Minister is THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- on his legs. WANATH PRATAP SINGH): Sir. the appre- henSion of the han. Member IS not correct. ( Interruptions) There has been continuous Interaction with the Planning CommisSion. Not only this I SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: have visited the Planning. Commission and Newspaper may say that. But I saying this. said: "Regularly we will be having meetings Certainly we have accorded top priority to with the Planning Commission, not once in a employment. Still agriculture is the biggest while~. And much. I think. the hon. Members employment giving sector; therefore the 5 Ora/ Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answe/S 6 emphasis on investments in the rural sector. force-and the backlog of unemployment and under-employment is the only viable way of We are not forgetful of the industrial realising the cherished goal of right to work sector; either. Even if we have to boost our on a continuing basis. I think that will be the exports or modernize our industries, it has to biggest charter for the youth in the coming be given impetus. But in this we are giving years or for the successive Governments impetus to agro-based industries through also. dovetails in our socia-economic system and decentralised production so that job oppor- PROF. RAM GANE5H KAPSE: We are tunities are created in the rural areas, thus thinking of new approach as far as the 8th relieving the land from its pressure. That is Plan and the Education Policy areconoemed. the objective. The real problem with education is voca- tional education. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: We are told that a new approach is being taken in formu- So, looking to the employment problem, lating the 8th Five Year Plan. One of the looking to the youth. are we thinking of major points to be stressed in the new ap- creating new avenues as far as vocational proach is what the Prime Minister has been education is concerned in the 8th Five Year repeatedly talking of, that is the youth of our Plan? country. Even the day before yesterday he said that a majority of the population, a single SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: largest contingent of the population is the Yes, Sir. youth and they are suffering from various problems. SHRI BAL GOPAL MISHRA: The 7th Plan.is complete and now we are entering So, I would like to know whether in this into the 8th Plan period. So far whatever has Approach Paper a separate chapter will be been in the past in this country is very pecu- there to deal with the problems of the youth Iiar-it is; India means Delhi. Orissa means and programmes accordingly will be evolved Bhubaneshwar, West Bengal means Cal- so that the implementation of the 8th Five cutta, Andhra Pradesh means Hyderabad Year Plan will solve the major problems of and so on and so forth. So I would like to the younger people of our country. know categorically from the Prime Minister any special thrust is being given to the areas SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: like Orissa in particular which are under- The hon. Member has rightly focussed on developed. There are also some other poor youth and that is our focus also. 73% of the areas of the r;t'xntry where drought and flood youth population is in the rural areas. So if we chronically visll. Particularly, the rural India have to tackle the problems of youth, it is is totally centuries behind from the urban again seeking employment opportunities and India. So. I would like to know what steps this job opportunities in the rural areas. The Government is taking to bring rural India at Government is coming with the proposition par with urban India. of including the right to work in the Constitu- tion. Si-iAl VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: Sir. I have already mentioned that the em- Certainly. within the resource constraint phasis is on investment in the rural area; that we havs, we will have to formulate that commitment of the fifty per cent investment in a realistic way. But with this provision what in the rural areas is the rEt. And as rightly said, we intend is that the development process is if we have to tackle the problem of poverty. totally engineered to generate additional then we will have to atand to those areas employment opportunities on a sufficiently where the maximum number of poor live. large scale and in a widely dispersed man- Otherwise. it will by a hypothetical removal of ner to absorb the increments to the labour poverty. We have to identify it. That is why 7 Oral Answers MAY 14,1990 Oral AnSM!HS 8
the Eastern Zone is being giVen special North-Eastem States and to see that this attention because a large number of poor turmoil is stopped and more allocation is live in that area. (Int9mJPtions) made and more plans are taken to see that the Af'Oblem ara solved. SHAI N.G. AANGA: Sir, the All India Khadi and Village Industries Commission SHAf VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: has been specialising in providing employ- Sir, the Plan discussions have takan place ment mostly to rural people. May I know and I remember that after Plan discussions whether the Goverllment propose to give when I was the Finance Minister, the Chief any special prominence to its activities and Ministers used to queue up to me to get also develop further activities on those lines further allocation. At. least, this time~ the through KVIC and also other such organisa- Planning Commission accommodated the tion that are already there or that may be States, respected their views in a spirit of created by the Government? accommodation and most of the States have gone satisfied. But the resource problem of SHAI VISHWANATH PAATAP SINGH: the North-East is there because they do not The concern about development In the rural have their own resources. As far as Assam areas and the Industnes there. had been is concerned, the han. Member may remem- expressed as soon as the new Government ber that as soon as the new Government came to power Tho::> sell scale Industries has Came to power, we raised the royalty of oil no separate entrty within the Government. which is one of the main recourses for Assam We have created a separate Department , by As. 100. Now what we want to do is that wrth a full-fledged secretary and a full-fledged instead of the Chief Minister coming begging Oepartment IS thpre to <'lHend to this That is to Delhi, we evolve a form uta by which cer- 'he expression of our concern of what the tainly, automatically, the State gets its re- non Member IS saYI"9. Certainly when we sources and specific schemes to absorb the ",,,vIsage thiS we envisage that It is not only youth of Assam are taken up. i agree witt; tl-te effort of the Governf'1ent alone. but all th,s ~int of view that it is necessary.
1.... 'llpr~ who are connected With ,t. must also oe given Impetu:, to carry Qrl .holr work and SHRI NIRMAL KANTl CHATTERJEE: (','ntlnue WIth th('!r warh. As far as the o,stortJons that took place in the planntng process over the different Plan SHAI SONTOSH MOHM'l DEV: lIAr. periods are concerned, 11">e share of the Speaker. Sir. In th2 North-Eastern States- States decreased in the Plan investment as the 'Seven states-the problem IS of resource compared to the Centre. Secondly, the share mobilisatIOn They always depend 011 the of the private sector. in rAality, increased as Government of India and Plan allC'--"~llion. compared to the public sector. Now, my The han Prime fAlnlster was k;tnd VISit ques!ion IS simple. Will this process be re- Assam and he also assured that sp· .~I care versoo and if so, the what extent? Will be taken on the economic de\' . ~ent of the North-Eas~ern reglor.. ThiS al1ot::3tion SHRI VtSHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: I)j funds was also there In the previous Sir. so far as the States are concerned, I do (.;overnment, even though the demand was not think that the States have a complaint on for more funds and specially for Assam, that. We are giving maximum attention to all because the other North-Eastern State get the points of view. 9(1 per cent grant~ anti 10 per cent i.Jan, whereas Assam IS not In that category. In SHAI NtRMAl KANTI CHATTERJEE: VIPW of this. that in the North-Eastern States, 55:45 was the percentage share in total. ttl'" present turmoil amonJ th"? youth IS mainly jor the economic b;1ckw;:udness May' know SHRt VtsHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: tram the hnn. PrlfPe Mmlstel wnat IS the Do you want me to explain the figures also ... thrust an 'he Eighlh r IV'" Y~'lf Plr'ln towards to (lnhmuptions). As far as the private sector 9 Oral AnsW81S VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Oral AnSwelS 10 and the public sector are concerned, when a cent-as they are contempfating now. lastly, certain sector starts growing, its percentage did the Prime Minister commit a breach of his ratio changes. It does not mean that the own declared intention of giving a high status public sector is diminishing. You are well to the Planning Commission by referring the known in statistics and so, you are playing on ApprOach Paper, approved by the Planning those figures. You are using your compe- Commission consisting of members of the tence and otherthings in that projection. You rank of Ministers of state to a Committee of do understand it. Certainly, the balance Secretaries for examination. Is it in conso- .between the public and the private will be nance with their declared aim of giving the maintained in the national economy of this so-called statutory status to the Planning country. Commission?
SHAI S. KAISHNA KUMAR: Sir, I may SHRI ViSHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: be permitted to put my supplementary In two The han. Member has fired his questions like or three parts? The first part of my questIOn a multiple miscible. Firstly. may I say that the is the Janata Government, in 1977, had present Government is committed to the interrupted the country's planning process Planning Commission process? So, there is and adopted a Plan holiday and a rollif"'lg no question of diluting the Planning Com- Plan, which was later proved statistICally to miSSIOn process and hence, any apprehen- have resulted in a terrible set back to the sIOn on that account should be totally dis- economy of this country. Now. the anwserto pelled. Then, I may also tell you that it will the main question says that the Approach have much higher respect and clout than it Paper IS to be placed before the NDC in the had earher. I know the status it had earlier ... middle of juneh. The administrative Instruc- (/nteffuptions) I have seen and I am seeing tions to the Mlnlstnes have not yet been as to how it is treated. (Interruptions) Yes, I Issued by the Planning CommiSSIOn. Sho:.J1d have seen. how it was treated; I know how it we understand that the Annual Plan for 1990- was treated. 91. an view of tnese circumstances. IS going to be cie-hnked ultimately from the Eighth When a new Government comes, some Plan? ThiS IS the first part of my questIOn. time is required to process the Plan and we Secondly, many parameters were fixed for are doing it most expeditiously, not losing achieving six per cent growth rate dUring the time. The First Year Plan is not quantum- Eighth Plan One of the parameters is not wise fitted in, but, In spirit, the main thrust Inflation rate dUTlng the Eghth Plan pened prevails because the political will is clear, the has to be limited at five per cent per annum. political direction IS clear. So. it is not out of The first Budget presented by thiS Govern- tune-what we have done in this Plan and ment IS going to result. according to all what IS general thinking in the direction of it. economists in a double digit inflation. There- tore. one of the basic parameters of the Now, about inflation. That is the real Eight Plan has already been badly compro- problem. But, it should also be understood mised. Thirdly. the Congress Government, that when this new Government came into in every subsequent Five Year Plan, has power, more than As. 13,000 crores of deficit doubled the outlay of the publIC sector for was already there, and that is what we are instance from 1.6 l'ilkh crores, In seventh trying to fill. So the pressure of money supply Plan to 3.2 lakh crores in the eighth. I would is there, but we are trying to curb it as much like to know whether or not the 20 per cent as _we can. There are certain pressures, annual growth rate for doubling the outlay of which come and which we have to respond the public sector, component of the Plar. in to. like on delence side. And all these para- five years. will be maintained or whether this meters we have to take care of but within Government witl think of reducing the overall that, we are trying to compress it. growth rate of outlay-I understand that it may come down from 20 per cent to 14 per The hon. Member has asked about 11 Oral Answers MAY 14. 1990 Oral AnsW9fS 12 public sector outlay. Now, today there is a poverty line. The "poverty line" was Draft Plan. which is to be approved. When defined by the Task Force on Mini- that Final Plan is prepared. when all the mum Needs and Effective Con- sectoral and all other details and figures sumption Demand (in 1979) as the come up, at that stage this will be taken care per capita monthly expenditure of of . We will see public sector is duly taken Rs. 49.09 in rural areas and As. care of. 56.64 in urban areas at 1973-74 prices oorresponding to the per Now. about status, may I assure you capita daily calorie requirement of that I have the highest respect for the Plan- 2400 in rural areas and 2100 in ning Commission. I went to the Planning urban areas. Commission to show this respect to it and there the discussions took place. Then, the (b) The poverty line for an individual Members of the Commission met me. That is (or family) is reviewed for changes because certain technical things are always in price indices, normally for the referred to: that is nothing new. It does not base year of the Five Year Plan or denigrate the Planning Commission, and the for the years for which data on final say is of the political authority and not of household consumer expenditure the bureaucracy, that is very clear. from the National Sample Survey is available. Full survey data are Measurement of Level of Poverty available at intervals of about five years. The overall price index + implicit in the private consumption "803. SHRI KALP NATH RAI: expenditure estimated in the Na- SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: tional Accounts Statistics is used as an indicator of price changes for Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased this purpose. The methodogy for to state: estimation in this regard is also being reviewed. (a) how IS the level of poverty of an individual or family defined or measured; (c) A concurrent evaluation of the Inte- grated Rural Developrpent Pro- (b) how and at what intervals the level gramme is being done every month of poverty of individual or family is reviewed by the Department of Rural Devel- with the change In price indices: and opment by taking a sample of the families assisted under the pro- (c) the institutional arrangement to gramme. In addition to monitoring monitor and evaluate the impact of various by the Department of Rural Devel- poverty alleviatIon programmeso;. opment. poverty alleviation pro- grammes for the benefit of Sched- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE uled Castes and ScheduJed Tribes MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER are also monitored under the OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- Twenty Point· Programme by the GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI Ministry of Welfare and in the States BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): (a) to (c). AState- by the nodal Departments. The ment is laid on the Table of the House. States have utilised the Tribal Research and Training Institutes in STATEMENT such evaluation. Ministry of Wel- fare has utilised the services of (a) An individual or family is defined as specialised professionalinstitutions poor if the level of expenditure of also in studying the impact of the that individual or family is below the programmes. 13 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14
SHni KAlP NATH RAI: Mr. Speaker, criterion used for assessing he people be- Sir, what is the total expenditure in carying low the poverty line is based on the recom- out the survey to find out the peopl~ below mendations of the Task Force on Minimum the poverty line? Needs and Effective Consumption Demand which submitted its report in 1979. Accord- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ing to this report. the poverty line is defined MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER as the per capita monthly expenditure of As. OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- 49.09 In rural areas and Rs. 56.64 in the GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI urban areas in 1973-74. Of course, the figure BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): Sir, the hon. has been updated. Now. according to that, Member has put me In a tight corner, I must the per capita daily calorie requirement of admit It. I Will let him know subsequently 2400 in rural areas and 2100 in urban areas because that is that figure which I would not has been worked out. The poverty line de- anticipate that It would be asked fined thiS way covers the expenditure on food and non-food items like fuel, clothing, SHRI KALP NATH RAI' The hon. Minis- houslOg, health. education and social serv- ter has not replied to my question. Ices and ensures adequacy. Mamly it is based on the consumption as far as the [Translation 1 human beings are concerned.
MR SPEAKER He has replied to that For the estimation of number of persons and I-.e IS admitting also At the moment the below the poverty IlOe, the distribution of per f,gures are not available with him. He Will capita consumption expenditure based on furnish It later the results of the National Sample Survey data of household consumption is utilised. [English] The NSS distribution of private consumption of prp rata adjusted to correspond to the SHRI KALP NATH RAI I seek your national level of total private consumption in protection. the absence of informatIOn to allocate the difference among the expenditure. The lat- HON. SPEAKER I have protected you, est estimates of poverty are based on the I am protecting you results of the 43rd round of National Sample Survey. [Translation 1 SHRI MURU DEORA: There are sev- THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- eral poverty alleviation programmes hke the WANATH PRATAP SINGH). Mr. Speaker, IRDP, RlEGP etc. in the rural areas. In 1985 Sir. the hon. member desires to know the Budget. which was presented by Shri Singh total expenditure on thiS survey. In thiS con- hlmseH, forthe first time there was a mention nection I would like to tell him that the han. of urban poverty. and a new programme Minister of state can furnISh the figures after called the SEPUP. SeN-Employment for the service IS over. At the moment he does Urban Poor, was created. However, even not have the figures. the targets which were prescribed by the banks for such programmes in urban cities [English] like Bombay are not being met and there is need for a massive streamlining of the SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Sir, whetherthe SEPUP. looking to the fact that one-fourth Government have made any attempt to find of the total population now lives in the urban out how the poverty IS being measured and areas and by the end of the century one-third what IS the criteria of the total population will be living in the urban areas, I would like to knowwhetherthe SHRI BHAGEY GOBARDHAN: Sir, the Government have any more programmes 15 Oral AnswelS MAY 14.1990 Oral AnswelS 16
for the poor people or urban areas. and the amount of assistance and subsidy that is whether the Government would streamHne to be given to each family because from the the existing programmes like SEPUP. etudies conducted earlier it has been found that As.9000 to Rs. 10,000 given as assis- SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: tance per family is not enough? By this Well, we wit! look as to why they were not assistance actually the people are not com- implemented. I think, Shri Deoraji might be ing above the poverty Une. having more information as to why they were not implemented. SHAI BHAGEYGOBAADHAN: Sir, the attempts made by Government to reduce {Translation] poverty line can be judged from the folldwing figures. These are the figures for the entire SHRI MURlI DEORA: But nothing has country. In 1983-84 the number of persons been said about the Self Employment tor below the poverty line was 27. , 0 crores and Urban Poor Scheme In the pre3ent Budget. in terms of percentage. it comes to 37.4 per No provision has been made for the urban cent of the total population. But in the year poor in the Budget. 1987-88 the number has been reduced to 23.24 crores lakhs and percentage-wise it {English] comes to 29.2%. The hon Member specifi- cally asked about IRDP. Figures are avail- SHRI VISHWANATH PRAT AP SINGH: able in the Planing Commission. Right at the But certaini¥. he used to take up these is- moment I don't have the figures otherwise I sues very strongly would have provided the same to the Mem- ber. However, I will be transmitting the same The urban poor problem IS very impor- to him. tant. Now that the r SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: true but we are also to attend to those who The factors of inflation are taken into consid- have not got even the single dose, eration. In the year 1973-74' for the rural areas the poverty line was at As. 49 per SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA:Mr. Speaker, month's income. It has been raised to Rs. Sir, during the previous Plan period, the 131.80 in the year 1987-88. Now, wh6ther yardstick for determining the poverty line this rise is correct or if there is some Uhera was As. 6400 per annum. May Iknowwhether Pheri" I believe the previous Government that has been updated or is being updated? would have honestly done it... (Interrup- H so, what are the updated figures? tipns) You had asked as to what happened in the last five years .. , (Interruptions) He is SHRI BHAGEY GOBARDHAN: Sir, that askin_g as to whether the changes that are is being looked into. there in the poverty line from 1973 onwards, are correct or not. I hope he believes that it SHRI AJIT PANJA: Sir, hon. Minister in has been done correctly. Well, if you don't his written answer, has stated about the believe, then it is all right. (Interruptions) definition of poverty line by taking into ac- count 1973-74 prices. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Sir, if you recollect, I had asked about the period Sir, the point is that-you must have when you were the Finance Minister. (Inter- noticed-the expenditure and not the in- ruptions) come is taken into consideration for having this definition and also the calorific require- SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: ment as is done by the World Health Organi- Mr. PanJa is very much agitated. When he sation for the developing countries. was looking after the Planning-I don't know whether It was in 1 987 -88--the figure was My question is this. This is being done raised from Rs. 49.09 in 1973-74 to Rs. by the .National Sample survey, as enunci- 131.80 in 1987-88. I hope Mr. Panja did it ated 'by Prof. Prashant Mahalanobis long correctly. That is wha.t I am ago. Now, Eighth Plan is on the anvil. The saYing ... (Interruptions) Now, you want to cost becomes so much-to make a door to protest against what I am saying. Deny it. But door to survey for assessing the poverty the han. Member has shown apprehension, line--that it becomes sometimes impossible that this was not correctly done. he is saying to do so. ButthisGovernment has notgotthe that :t is not being correctly done. We will look opportunity. Census is coming. May I know into tho lacunas or any such happening that whether the Prime Minister will consider that has been done ... (Interruptions) while taking these items of expendituFe the caloric intake is also included in that from SHRI RAJMANGAL PANDE: Is the which we see at the time of census? Government aware that many a tim~, even second dose assistance to these people Then, Sir, huge money will be saved.· whose per capita income has Increase and We know for certain that plan will be made have gone above the poverty line but subse- properly as was done by the previous Gov- quently their per capita income has de- ernment. As a sample, they took the La- creased and thereby they have again come kshdweep group of Islands. So, it becomes back or reverted back to below the poverty a small unit. That Report is with the Planning line? H it is true then what proposition does Commission. May I know whether the Gov- the Government try to make about these ernment is going to make a dovetail ap- people who are rev9rted back to below proach or a multiple approach or a multi- poverty line? purpose approach of census by making poverty as an item which will enable us to SHRt VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: give an authentic report of actual poverty in Sir. while the concern of the han. Member is India. (Interruptions) 19 O,a' Answers MAY 14.1990 Oral AnsW91S 20 SHRI AJIT PANJA: The hon. Prime age of p90pIa living below the poverty line Minister is present here today luckily and has been brought down to 32 per cent from therefore he should take this opportunity 47 per cent. Secondly. there is rampant which the .previous Government could not corruption in the implementation of these do. poverty alleviation schemes. There were reports in tOOay's newspapers that ~bout Rs. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: 1.5 crores were seized. This money had We will certainly examine these sugges- been allocated for the implementation of tions. these schemes. About Rs. 35 lakhs were recovered from one cieri( only. Money meant SHRI D. AMAT: Those persons who for these scheme is being swindled away in were paupers in 1947 have become million- the name of bogus persons. In this connec- aires today. They are running mills and fac- tion the former Prime Minister had said that tories. They are plying a fleet of cars. They out of 1 rupee only 15 paise reach the are also maintaining a dozen of telephones. beneficiaries and 85 paise do not reach They are having all these thmgs at the cost them. Now people have taken it for granted of the poor people who are living on roots, that 85 paise are to be pocketed by them. In fruits and leaves of the jungle. The money view of the above I would like to know if any sectioned by the Government for the imple- measures are being taken to ensure that this mentation of the vanous schemes like RLEP, malpractice is checked, the entire amount RLEGP and IRDP. is being devoured by the reach the actual beneficiaries and they are people who are Implementing these brought above the poverty line. schemes. Will the Government try to confis- cate this 'money from these people and util- SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: Ise it for the upliftment and betterment of the Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this we are considering poor people? I know it is a VP Singh's sarkar; for the decentralisation of power. Under the it is not aJadu Samrat p.e. Sarkarsa that he new procedure the people will exercise Will hypnotise and mesmerise everything checks over the system and this corruption overnight. in the implementation of these schemes could be brought under contrOl. SHRI BHAGEY GOBARDHAN: The hon. member has asked a very difficult [English] question which is being asked these days by almost everyone. But before the Govern- Import of Colour Picture Tubes ment takes any action to confiscate this money, we must identify the persons who + are culprits. Only after Identifying the cul- *804. SHRI ANBARASU ERA: prits. this thing can be looked into. . SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: [Translation J Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased PROF. VIJAY KUMAR MALHOTRA: Mr. to state: Speaker, Sir, I would like to know from the hon Minister whether any survey was con- (a) whether Government import picture ducted through which It could be ascertained tubes for colour Television sets from abroad; as to what is the actual number of people who are living below the poverty line and the (b) if so. the names of such countries; number which has been fitted above it? I and would also like know whether really any survey was conducted or it is only the jug- (c) the effect of such import on Indian glery of figures whICh claim that the percent- colour Television picture tube manufacture? 21 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE is that there are currently three manufactur- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- ers of colour picture tubes (CPTs) in the OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) to (c). A country; Their level of production almost statement is laid on the Table of the House. meets the requirements of the country in terms of the production of colour TV sets STATEMENT currently. The answer to the second ques- tion raised by the han. member is that it will (a) to (c). Electronics Trade and Tech- be difficult to give the actual figure of the nology Development Corporation Limited foreign exchange which has been soant on (ET& T). a Public Sector undertaking under the import of these colour picture tubes. The the Department of Electronics has been han. member is no doubt aware that, when importing from time to time picture tubes for an import licence is given. it is valid for 18 Colour TV sets. months from the date of issue for placement of an order. The issuance of licences was Colour Picture Tubes (CPTs) were al- started In June 1989. So. it implies that many lowed to be Imported under open General licences are still valid. Therefore. it is difficult Licence (OGL) upto 21.3.1989 Thereafter. to know exactly how many CPTs have been the Item was shifted to Appendlx-2B of the imported these licences and to estimate the Import and Export policy. keepmg m view the final figures of actual import has taken place capacity being built up by the local CPT until the validity period is over. With regard to manufacturers. However, an assessment of the third point, the answer to that the import the local production and demand of CPTs for licences were issued to 39 CTV manufactur- 1989-90 Indicated the need for Import of ers for a total Quantity of four lakh colour CPTs Accordingly, Imports of CPTs by picture tubes. In addition. there was an allo- Colour TV manufacturers and ET& T were cation of two lakh colour picture tubes given permitted dUring 1989-90 to bridge the an- to the public sector undertaking ET& T which ticipated gap between demand and supply. comes under the Department of Electronics. ET& T Imported the CPTs from South Korea. In 1987-88. ET& T Imported CPTs from Japan SHRI ANBARASU ERA: I find in the also. answer that the Electronic Trade and Tech- nology Corporation was also permitted to ET& T was also permitted to Import a Import a few non-conventional size CPTs few non-conventional size CPTs which are which are not indigenously manufactured. I not Indlgenously manufactured for supply to would like to know whether this Government India parties to enable them to meet export has any proposal to have some collabora- commitments Thus. the said imports of CPTs tion With Japan or South Korea instead ofthe under both cases as per above IS not likely to tech 1J01og ical know-how and to produce have adverse Impact on indigenous CPT these non-conventional size CPTs in India manufacturers itself instead of directly importing them from these countries. SHRI ANBARASU ERA' What steps have the Government taken so far to pro- PROF. M.G.K. MENON: The main point duce clour picture tubes Indigenously? How is that the three manufacturers who are much foreign exchange have you spent currently manufacturing colour picture tubes dUring 1989-90 to Import these colour pic- do so in terms of the standard size which are ture tubes from South Korea and Japan? largely used and therefor are economically How many private companies have Deen viable from the viewpoint of production. In given licences to Import these colour picture answer to the point which the han. member tubes? has referred to, one is talking of relatively smaller quantities -and the answer says PROF. M.G.K. MENON: The answer to so--of a few r.on-conventional type of CPTs. the first Question raised by the han. Member This has been specifically from the viewpoint 23 Ora/An~ MAY 14,1990 Oral AnsWSIS 24 of export demands for whictt~ types of production of colour television sets in India TV picture tubes are needed .. h is not, eco- can be met aJmost entirely by the production nomicaUy worthwhile to manufacture these 9f colour picture tubes in the country it... H. in small quantities involved. h is not a ques- There fore, I do not anticipate that for the tion of know-how alone but whether manu.- future1hera will be requirement for any sig- facture is economically viable; that is the nificant imports of colour picture tubes. Inci- basic question. dentally, Sir, I must point out that the figure I gave was not As. 60 crores, but As. 16 As far as the manufacture of CPTs is crores. I must clarify that point. concerned, know-how now exists this has been imported there are three manufactur- SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Sir, the _swer ers who are producing CPTs with foreign states that three companies are producing collaboration namely JeT, Samtel and colour picture tubes. It was also stated that Uptron. The main item of course CPT manu- we are almost producing what our require- facture is the glass shell which is at present ment is. And to my knowledge. I think. we imported these licences have been issu~ are exporting to Russia, Bangladesh and to for this, because this will be a major import othoar small countries. Though we say that item otherwise: we have to avoid this situ- we have the production in our land of these ation. The import by ET&T during 1989-90 of picture tubes in extenso, it is sad that these CPTs involved a total foreign exchange of are not actually indigenous. Many of the Rs. 16 crores and this involved a total num- components are actually imported. Will the ber of Rs. 44lakh for non-conventional CPTs. Government take some measures to see that the components are also produced in SHRI BHABANI SHANKAR HOTA: As India so that the whole thing could be indige- per the answer given by the han. Minister nous? right now, about Rs. 60 crores are being spent in foreign exchange in importing the PROF. M.G.K. MENON: Sir, the hon. colour televisions. I know and all of us know Member is perfectly correct in that we ought that poor people of this country and the to aim at producing all the basic items re- country are likely to go into a debt trap, I want quired for a colour television set in the coun- to know whether it is desirable to spend so try itself. Since this is a large item of produc- much of precious foreign exchange for im- tion. That is the objective and that is what we port of colour televisions and whether the have accomplished. I would like to stress Government is considering to ban the import what I have already said that the colour of the colour televisions in the country. I picture tube is the main constituent of a would like to know this. colour television set. Its production was only 14 million and .38 million in 1987 and 1988. PROF. M.G.K. MENON: Colour televi- But however, it went up to 1.13 million in sion was introduced in 1982. Thereafter, 1989 compared to a production of colour TV there has been a growing demand for colour sets of 1.2 million. Thus the gap between TV sets. Colour picture tubes are a main demand of CPTs and their production has constituent of colour television. licences repidlyalead. There is now enough capacity were issued for the manufacture of these for production through existing units and and there has been a gradual ifJCl'ease in then expansion, which has bgen permitted production of colour picture tubes. Until 1989- to meet the requirements of CTV manufac- 90 the requirements of CPTs were growing ture in the country. But more capacity will very rapidly, and the actual manufacture need to be created to meet the longer terms CPTs in country was at a relatively smaller demand for CTVs. The hon. Member has level. Imports of CPTs had to be made on a asked a further question about the import large scale. In the year 1989-90 also were content in the CPT manufacture iteself. At I large scale imports. Now, however, the have-mentioned earlier, the main item which position is that the demand of CPTs for the is imported is tha glass shell. To make a 25 Oral Answ9l's VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Oral AnsMHS 26 cpkWr picture tube, you need the appropri- ittigation. One single dam can produced ate gass shell. Two parties have been 3300. MWs of hydel power and all the other licenced for manufacture of glass shells, dams on the river Kosi can produce 7000 One of whom is ready to go into production. MWs of hydel power. At present we do not go This also involves a foreign collaboration. At back to this project. But definitely thermal the present. the cost it is approximately 25 power projects pollute the atmosphere. That US dollars per glass shall as imported and we have to ensure· if CTV is to grow in the is why, we want to know whether the Envi- country. that these are made in the country ronment Ministry is advising the Power itself. Ministry to ensure the power generation through hydel, through solar and other [Translation] sources which are generating power. And , we can utiiise the coal for producing urea ClosurA thermal Power Stations to and other things as they have begun at Prevent Environmental Pollution Talcher, to ensure that there is environ- mental protection. *806. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Ministqr of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY: Sir, We ESTS be pleased to state: are not discouraging the hydel electricity power. On the contrary. there IS no truth in it (a) whether Government propose to that we are obstructing the construction of close down gradually thermal power stations hydel power project in the country. Certain and encourage hydro-electric pov.:er and difficulties might have arisen about environ- solar energy etc. with a view to save environ- ment clearance. But the clearance is gener- ment from being polluted; and ally given after due consideration. And so far as this Ministry is concerned, we are not (b) if so, the steps being taken In thiS adverse to the hydel power being taken up in regard. the country. "'\ [English] SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: In order to ensure that environment is well protected, THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT where this Ministry or the Government is AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI going to ensure that on all the canal sides, ROUTRAY): No, SIr. railway sides and road sides. trees are planted throughout the countr; preferably fruit trees (b) Does not arise. so that the whole country can look like a garden and we can have a proper environ- SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Sir, there mental protection. May I know whether there has been a definite planned effort on behalf is any such plan In the Government? of the Ministry of Environment to block multi- purpose hydel power projects in the name of SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY: Yes, that prevention of pollution and environment. is the policy of the Environment Ministry. We Previously in a letter to me in 1974. the are encouraging planting to trees on road- Govemment of India had said that the multi- sides, by the side of the railways lines and purpose high dam over rive Kosi barrage other such places, so that it can help us to could not be taken up because we do not maintain the environment in the country. have market for such a huge block of power and the stored water cannot be utilised for 27 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 28 WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS conducted Into such complaints; [ Translation] (b) the outcome thereof and the names of the persons found guilty; and Sale of Old Vehicles by Defence Vehicle Depots (c) whether any complaint has been received regardir.g irregularities being com- -800 SHRI HUKUMDEO NARAYAN mitted in Delhi Depot; and if so, when en- YADAV: Will the PRIME MINISTER be quiry was conducted in this regard when pleased to refer to the reply given on 16 April, enquiry was conducted in this regard anls the 1990 to Unstarred Question No. 4894 re- outcome thereof? garding sale of old vehicles by Defence Vehicle [ epots and state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the names of the depots in respect MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA of whIch complaints were received during RAMANNA): (a) to (c). A Statement is given the last two years and when enquiry was below. 29 Written Answel5 VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsWEHS 30 f/) o E ~8 E Q) ~ ..!! m m m eX) eX) ~ eX) m en 8 m ..- u) u; ...... : '0 U') u) ...... : oS! N lU 0 0 <: M -.i U') -=(I) 33 VAISAKHA24.1912 (SAKA) Written AnsMJtS 34 (5 "0 It! Ul Ul ~ E ."5; < ~ c: ~ It! '0 a ~ '0 CD ~ .2: ;:, CD :.E 1ii "0 CD c: CD C "0 (5 c: CD ci l'G ..0 0 C "0 (.) CD >. > ..0 .~ 0 ~ E E ~ ~ E 0 c: .9 CD u CD (ij. ..0 (.) 35 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Writtsn Answetrs 36 [English] (a) the number of Engineering Colleges undertheprivate management in Tamil Nadu Southern Air Command Unit and other States. State-wise; *S01 SHRI SURESH KOOIKUNNI: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) whether Union Government are considering to issue guidelines to State (a) whether the work on the setting up Governments to ensure at least 50% of the of the Southern Air Command Unit in Trivan- seats in Engineering -colleges under private drum has since been completed; management to be filed up on the basis of (b) if so, the details thereof; and merit through a competitive examination as (c) if not; the reasons for delay? done in the case of Medical Colleges; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the details thereof? MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA RAMANNA): Ca) to (c). The Southern Air Command has been functioning at Trivan- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE drum since 1984. Part of the required land MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- has been acquired while proceedings for the VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI remaining portion are In progress. Work MEHTA;: Ca) There are 179 Engineering Services, which are at an advanced stage of Colleges under private management. A state- planning. are scheduled to commence by ment (State-wise) indicating the number of end of the current yea: and be completed by private engineering colleges in various , 995. The finanCial oytlay tor thiS establish- States/UTs is given below. ment has had to be phased out over a longer period on account of constraint on resources. (b) and (c). Government are of the vIew Admissions in Private Engineering that admissions to technical institutions Colleges should be made on the basis of certain objective criteria. the basis of which inler- "805. SHRI R. JEEVARATHiNAM: Will alia, .should be merit and the reservation the PRIME MINISTER be p(ea~ed to state: guidelines. STATEMENT Engineering College ;.?t up Under Private Management 51 No StateVT No. of Private Engineering Col/eges 2 3 1 . Andhra Pradesh 18 2. Pihar 3. Haryana 3 4. Karnataka 45 37 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers ~ 51. No. StatelUT No. of Private Engineering CoUeges 1 2 3 5. Kerala 3 6. Madhya Pradesh 4 7. Maharashtra 61 8. Orissa 2 9. Punjab 2 10. Rajasthan 3 11. Tamil Nadu 31 , 2. Uttar Pradesh 5 13. Pondlcherry Total 179 Demands of All India Kendriya have been heldlfixed recently; and Vidyalaya Teachers Association (d) If so, the details and outcome *807. SHRI SHANTILAL PU- thereof? RUSHOTTAM DAS PATEL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANt..HAI Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased MEHTA). (a) and (b). TheAll India Kendriya to state: Vidayalaya Teachers Association has sub- mitted a charter of Demands which was (a) the details of different demands of received by Kendnya Vidyalaya Sangathan All India Kendriya Vidyalaya Teachers Asso- on 22 May, , 987. The details of the demands ciation; and the stand of Kendriya Vidyalaya San·· gathan thereon are furnished in the state- (b) the date on which demands were ment attached. made and the action taken on each demand so far; (c) No, Sir. (c) whether any bilateral negotiations (d) Does not arise. 39 Written AnswslS MAY 14,1990 Wrlnen Answe/S 40 <.n Q; .s:::. u to ~ <.n =:I .Q (ij > Q) -:= (ij CJ) c: o E to _<.n (ii .s:::. u to .S! .E c:: o <.n .~ 0 c c:: Q) Qj <.n > f! 0 Q.(!) &!.o 41 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answws 42 (/J (ij Q) >- N 43 Written Answers MAY 14;1990 Written Answers 44 ~ "0 c: ell . '0 iij cU -g .2 'E 1ii c: .~ Vl CD L:- 0 l'G >- Q) _2 t- l'G o C) a.. a CD >- iii '0 c: en co Q) ooc{ ~ .2 t-: U) 2: ::::.: a; CD CD CJ) ~ >- .....: 0) '0 ~ c a .Q '0 "'iii c;; ~ 3: en c: as -~ tV -T3 :; E L:- ~ ~ Q ~ a: ~ aD -..:: en (/) 45 Written Answers VAISI.KHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsW8IS 46 eno c: .~ OJ CD ..0 ci 47 MAY 14.1990 -.: iO ~ :;b VI Cii '~ ..c. u CIS m en III ~ iii :0 (/) U) iii > -"t£ CIS ::.:::: 2 "0 "0 ~ III g (i '"Q) E -0 g III 'iii 01 III c: CII U) CII U) iij U) III 8 U III >- -.5 oc: c "2 m c: .E ~ ,Q Q) U) .§ -0 o ~ ~ E ~ (5 o .~ -0 Q_ Ci :::I U) CT ~ "0 CII Q) c: c CIS "2 15 ,Q C en U) iii ,S: -0 V) III c: E Ui :::I E ,t: .;c o :::I Q) ,~ 0. o III > III ..c. c: o a: I- o Z Q.e -0 c: CIS u.. C a.. III (.) E ..c. .t: '5 :t :>. ,t: ~ :::I iU "0 c: .Q "U) .> a..e ci C'\I 49 Written Answers VAtSAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA, Written AnS'llWJfS 50 Work.... • Parltlcipatlon In the Manage- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment of Ordnance Factories MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA RAMANNA): (a) No, Sir. *808. SHRI YASHWANTRAO PATIL: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (b) Does not arise. state: (c) Selection to all ranks in the Armed (a) whether any steps have been taken Force ;s open to all eligible Indian nationals to have workers' participation in the man- irrespective of case, creed, community' and agement of Ordnance Factories; and religion. As such, there is no reseNation quota in favour of any caste, tribe or commu- (b) if so, the details thereof? nity. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [English] MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA RAMANNA): (a) Yes, Sir. Kendriya Vidyalayas in Kashmir (b) Workers of the Ordnance Factories *810. DR. SUDHIR RAY: participate in the management of the facto- SHRI SURYA NARAYAN ries through the follOWing: SINGH: 1 . Works Committee Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: 2. Joint Consultative Machinery (a) whether most of Kendriya Vidyalayas 3. ProductiVity Council located in Kashmir Valley have been closed down indefinitely; and 4. Welfare Commi1tee (b) if so, the details thereof? [ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Reservation for SCslSTs in Army MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI *809 SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANG- MEHTA): (a) and (b). Kendriya Vidyalayas WAR: WfllthePRIMEMINISTERbepleased located in Kashmir Valley had winter vaca- to state: tion from 24 December, 1989 to 11 Febru- ary. 1990. Thereafter the vacation was ex- tended upto 14.5.1990. (a) whether any proposal IS under consideration of the government to provide Cactus and SUcculent Plants for Preven- reservation for scheduled castes and sched- tion of Environmental Pollution uled tribes for recruitments In the army; *811. SHAI SHEO SHARAN VERMA: (b) if so, when this provision is likely to Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND be Implemented: and FORESTS be pleased to state: (c) the percentage of scheduled castes (a) whethe:- Government are consider- in different ranks In the army at present? ing the efficacy and utility of Cactus and 51 Written AnsWBIS MAY 14,1990 Wnlten AnsWBIS 52 Succulent plants to check environmental whether the attention of Govern- pollution; ment has been drawn to the reports about the alleged irregularities and malpractices in (b) whether any survey has been con- the working of Bal Bhawan Society; ducted in this regard: (b) wh"thl'lr any investigation has been (c) if so, the outcome thereof; and conducted in the matter; and (d) the steps being taken to grow these (c) if so, the outcome of such inv88tiga- plants in large numbers, particularly in des- tion and the steps taken in this regard? ert and arid areas? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI ROUTRAY). (a) No. SIr. MEHTA): (a) to (c). The Government have received complaints regarding irregularities (b) No SIr. allegedly committed in certain matters per- taining to Bal Bhavan SOCiety, India, New (c) and (d). Do not anse Delhi. All such complaints are normally for- warded to the Society for being looked into or [ Translation] reviewed and acted upon as per rules and procedures of the society which is an au- Super Computer Centre in Meerut tonomous body. "8'2. SHRI HARISH PAL: W,ll the Two sets of allegations were made PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state' against the Director, Bal Bhavan Society, IndIa, and were Investigated by the CBI (a) whether there IS a proposal to open during 1981-82 and 1982-83. a super computer centre In Meerut: and (b) If so, the detaIls thereof? The frrst set of allegatIons related to visit of a delegation to Bulgaria and some Irregu- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE laritle'S and unauthorised expenditure In MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- cOnnection 1herewith. The allegations were OGY (PROF M.G K. MENON): (a) There is Investigated by the CBI during 1982 and the no proposal to open a Super Computer Centre matter was treated as closed on June 10, In-Meerut. 1982. (b) Does not anse. In the second case, the CBI brought to [Engl1sh] the '1otice of this Ministry, certain malprac- tices in Bal Bhavan Society India for informa- Alleged IrregularHies In the Working of tion and necessary action. The irregularities Bal Bhawan Society were briefly as under: ·813. PROF. VIJAY KUMAR (i) Misuse of Staff Car MALHOTRA: SHRI M.S. PAL: (ii) Impropriety in Government Ac- commodation Will the PRIME MINISTER be pteased to state: (iii) Irregularities in the purchase of 53 Written Answers VA1SAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSMleIS 54 furniture frame-work of rules of the Bal Bhavan S0ci- ety. The post of Chairman, who is also the (iv) Award of construction contract appointing authority for the Director, has without observance of proper been lying vacant since March -1988. The formalities. new Chairman, appointed by the govern- mentoflndia 11th May, 1990, has taken over The irregularities committed by the Di- the charge. He has been entrusted with the rector of the Society were brought to the task of initiating action on all the complaints notice of the Chairman for taking appropriate received so far and the irregularities commit- action, under intimation to the Ministry. The ted. then Chairman expressed the view that the ~lIegations against the Director and other [ Translation1 staff members had no substance. After dis- cussion with the Chairman, the Ministry Sports facilities in Hili Areas closed the case In 1983. *814. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Willthe The matter was further pressed by the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Central Vigilance Commission whose list of alleged irregularities committed by the Di- (a) whether adequate facilities for dif- rector, Bal Bhavan Society was forwarded to ferent sports are available in hill areas; Vice-Chairman, Bal Bhavan Society for her comments on 5.6.89. Bal Bhavan Society (b) if not, whether Government propose contended that the complaint was the same to set up sports colleges and outdoor and which they had received in 1982 and which indoor stadia in hill areas; and had been examined and requested that the matter be closed. The matter was pursued by (c) if so, the details thereof? the Department in view of the fact that along With the four allegations already settled, there THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE was a fifth a"egation. This related to a cheque MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- issued by NCERT for a National Integration VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI Camp, which was taken into a personal MEHTA): (a) to (c). While sports facilities are account Instead of Bal Bhavan Society ac- sought to be created in Hill areas (as indeed count. So far, however, there has been no in the Plains areas) of the country, through response from Vice-Chairman, Sal Bhavan State/Central!other assistance, such facili- Society. Recently there were other allega- ties cannot be said to be adequate. The tions and complaints which included termi- Central Government does not -itself set-up nation of one chowkidar and one Assistant facilites like Sports CollegeslStadia, but Director and her forcible eviction and repre- provides financial assistance to State Gov- sentaition by group of employees and other ernm.entslothers for setting up outdoorlin- Individuals. door Stadia, Swimming pools etc. The scale of Central assistance is, in·fact, higherforthe The responsibility of management of Hill areas, as compared to Plains areas. The Bal Bhavan rests with the Board of Bal amount of Central assistance in this behaHto Bhavan Society. Day-to-day administration Hill areas upto the end of the VII Plan is As. is carried out by the Board, the Chairman or 1 .1 4 crores. the Director. The Ministry acts through the Chairman and the representatives on the There is no Central Scheme for setting Board of Bal Bhavan Society i.e. within the up of Sports Colleges. 55 Written AnsW'elS MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 56 (English) woulC:f depend onth. availability of resources in the Eighth Plan. Cleaning of Rivera In Karnataka Allotment of Newtlprlnt to Kera .. for *815. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJ: Printing of Book. connected ·.MIth SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESH· literacy Scheme WARI: *817. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: AND FORESTS be pleased to state: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased (a) whether there is any action plan to state: under consideration of Union Government for cleaning of rivers in Karnataka: (a) whether Kerala Govemment and (b) if so, the details thereof: and People's representatives have requested Union Government to allot Newsprint for the (c) the total financial Central assistance printing of books connected with 10% liter- being provided to Kamataka tor the pur- acy scheme in Kerala; pose? (b) if so, the action takec thereon; THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT tc) the details of aid being given to AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI Kerala to attain 100 per cent literacy; and ROUTARY): (a) An action plan for cleaning the river Krishna, prepared jointly by the Cd) whether the scheme will be imple- State Govemments of Karnataka, Andhra mented in other States also? Pradesh and Maharashtra in 1986. has been received by the Union Government. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (b) The action plan has suggested the VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI setting up of a Central Krishna Authority and MEHTA): (a) A request for allotment of Krishna Project Directorate. The plan in- paper for implementation of the Total Liter- cludes execution of major schemes such as. acy Project has been addressed to the Prime construction/augmentation of sewerage Minister by the Chief Minister by the Chief works and treatment plants: laying, intercep- Minister of Kerala. Also a similar requested tion and diversion of sewers; installation of has been addressed to the Union Minister of pumping statIOns. etc., for the major cities Information and Broadcasting by some and towns on the Krishna and its tributaries. Members of Parliament. The total cost of the action plan. when pre- pared. was estimated as Rs. 588 crores. The (b) The matter is under consideration in total amount estimated for cleaning the por- consultation with the other Ministries con- tion of the river in Karnataka is As. 114 cerned. crores. (c) The following grants have been (c) The consideration of the action plan sanctioned in Kerala during 1989-90:- 57 VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSwelS 58 Amount (Rs. In Iakhs) 1 2 Rural Functional Literacy Project 152.76 (To Government of Kerala) Additionality for Total literacy Project 100.00 (To Government of Kerala) Strengthening of administrative structure for AE programme in 2.00 StatelOistrict level Voluntary Agencies 5.81 A decision has been taken that the (b) if so, the details of the proposals funds being provided in the State of Kerala cleared/under consideration for promotion for Adult Education programme under the of bio-technology in Maharashtra and the various schemes would be pooled and given assistance provided so far and proposed to the Kerala Saksharata Samiti which has during 1990-91 and in the Eighth Five Year been set up under the chairmanship of the Pian; and Chief Minister of Kerala for implementation oft he total literacy project. Accordingly, while (c) the assistance provided to institu- the pooled funds would be released to the tions and research Scholars in Vidharba Kerala Saksharata Samiti during 1990-91, a region in Maharashtra for research in Bio- further additionality of Rs. 200.00 lakh has technology? also been approved for 1990-91. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) The National literacy Mission Au- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- thority has sanctioned proposals for 'full liter- OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) to (c). acy' in Goa, Pondicherry and two districts of The Eighth FIVe Year Plan is still under Karnataka in the pattern of Kerala Pian. finalisation. However, there is a proposal to Similar proposals would be considered by set up a State Embryo Transfer Centre under the National Literacy Mission Authority as the Department of Biotechnology sponsored and when received from the Sate Govern- S& T (Mission Mode) Project on "Cattle Herd mentslUts and agencies. Improvement for increased productivity us- ing Embryo Transfer Technology- at Kol- 810-Tech Centres In Maharashlra hapur in Maharashtra. *819. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will the The proposed Centre at KoIhapur will PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: function through the Kolhapur Milk Union under the NationalOawy Development Board (a> whether there is any proposal to set which is the lead implementing agency for up bio-tech centres in Maharashtra during the above S& T Project. h is proposed to the Eighth Five Year Plan: provide a total assistance of As. 10 lakhs in 59 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 60 '990-91 for the Centre. In addition, the fol- A total assistance of Rs. 53.24 lakhs lowing Biotechnology Centres have already has been provided to the above-mentioned been set up and substantial grants given in projects and 21 Research Scholars under the Seventh Plan: various categories are working under these projects. National Facility for Animal Tissu Cul- ture (Pune)' This facility has been estab- Educational Institutions In Punjab lished to develop new cell lines and maintain under Private Management a collection of cell lines of human and animal ongin. So far Rs. 335.41 lakhs has been 8452. BABA SUCHA SINGH: Will the provided dUring the 7th Plan and further PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: assistance of As. 359.00 lakhs would be provided dUring 1990-91. (a) the number of educational institu- tions being run by private management of Pilot Plant Umt for larqp scale produc- vanous religious denominations in Punjab: tion of p!anrs through tissue Culture tech- mque (Pune)' A pilot plant Unit has been set (b) the annual grant-in-aid given to up at NCL. Pune for mass propagation of each of them by Government: and several nationality Important tree specIes uSing tissue culture These production units (c) whetherthese institutions are charg- Will produce 5 to 10 million plantlets per year. Ing turtlon fee more than the Government So far Rs 260 00 lakhs has been provided In Institutions? the Seventh Plan 1 hese would continue to receIve further support THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- ASSistance has been provided to the VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI InstItutIons whIch are situated In Vldarbha MEHTA): (a) to (c). The Information is being region for carrying out research projects as collected and will be laid on the Table of the indicated agaInst thpnl House. National EnVironmental Engmeermg Safety Factor of Narora Atomic Power Resear=h Institute. (NEEPI) Nagpur Plant (I) Microbial productIon of 2.3- 8453. SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will the ButanPdlO1 frorn water hyaCinth. PRIME MINiSTER be pleased to state: (Ii) BIOtechnol031cai production of (a) whether any round the clock moni- Chemicals and Hydrogen from toring system has been Installed at the Na- waSTes rora AtomiC power plant to keep under con- stant observation the micro-seismic data so (III) Microbial dl'5ulphurtsation of as to guard any possible risk of radiation leak Foss" Fuel. from the plant; (iv) Biotechnological conversion of (b) if so, the cost thereof; and Meth3ne to Methanol. (c) whether the safety factor of the said Sevagram. WArdha' (I) Immunodlag- plant is to be re-examined after a specified nOSIS of Human fililnasls period in the light of the data to be collec1ed 61 Written Answers VAISAKHA24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 62 by this system; if so, when'!" partment of Electronics (DOE) to provide computer and communication service to the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE commercial organisations in the country. H MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- also services to any other interested user. OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. There is round-the-clock monitor- The Department of Telecom (DOT) has ing system at the Narora Atomic Power an experimental Packet Switch node with 4 Plant, which includes constant observatin of nodes. It is operational for more than one micro-seismic d ... !a through six monitoring year: DOT now has a proposal for a public stations; an expenditure of Rs. 9.75 lakhs packet switched network. In addition it has has so far been incurred towards the same. established a Remote Area Business Mes- sage Network (RABMN) using the same (c) Yes, Sir. A re-assessment is pro- technology as NICNET. It is in the final stage posed to be undertaken five years from the of implementation. However, some users date of authorisation for operation, with re- like SAil and NTPC ale using NICNET for spect to all aspects of safe operation of project management and information proc- stations, including analysis of data collected essing. by micro-seismicity recording system. The Department of Electronics has a Computer Networks UNDP programme to establish Education & Research Network (ERNET) in collabora- 8454. SHRIM.M. PALLAM RAJU: Will tion with some elite institutions in the coun- the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: try. There are 5 Indian Institutes of Technol- ogy, Indian Institute of Science. National (a) the names of the existing computer Centre for Software Technology and the networks across the country and the pur- DOE. The University Grants Commission pose of each of these net works: has made a proposal for interlinking all the libraries of the universities. This network is (b) the number of centres covered by called INFLIBNET. It is still in the planning each of these networks; and and design stage. (c) the names of networks which have (b) NICNET covers 416 nodes at pres- been affected by computer viruses in recent ent which includes most of the district head- years and the extent of damage caused in quarters. State capitals and the Central each case? Government. INDONET is currently servic- ing 11 cities. RABMN which is to cover all the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE remote areas is still in the process of com- MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI BHAGEY missioning. GOBARDHAN): (a) National Informatics Centre under the Planning Commission has (c) As far as information is available. established a satellite based network called none of the computer networks has been NICNET to provide information services to affected by the computer viruses. the Central and State Government depart- ments. This network uses Very Small Aper- State Civilian Employees Posted to ture Terminal (VSAT» technology. It is op- N.C.C. In U.P. erational since' 987. INDONET is a com- mercial network established by the CMC 8455. SHRI C.M. NEGI: Will the PRIME ltd, a public sector undertaking of the De- MINISTER be pleased to state: 63 MAY 14,1990 (a) whether the instructions of the U.P. from the West Bokaro Coftiery.1n Hazaribag, State Govemment provide that the State have been found to contain suspended sot- cMlian employees posted to NCC will not be ids and carbon dusts, in excess of permis- transferred in the mid-session from July to sible limits. March every year without the approval of the Minister-in-Charge: The steps taken to check this pollution include: (b) if so, the reasons as to why the State civilian employees posted to NCe in Uttar (i) the Bihar State Pottution Control Pradesh have been transferred during July Board has filed a case under the 1989 to February, 1990; and Water (Prevention & Control of Pollution) Act, 1974 against the (c) the remedial steps Government unit for not taking adequate propose to take in the matter? measures to treat their effluents to the prescribed Standards. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA (ii) Based upon the directives issued RAMANNA) :~a) Yes, Sir. except transfers at by the State Pollution Control the request of individual employees on Board, the unit is adding two compassionate grounds. more settling tanks in it effluent treatment plant. The unit has (b) the transfers were made on com- been directed to complete the passionate grounds at the request of the work by July. 1990. individual employees or on administrative grounds in public interest with the approval CBI Cases In Rajasthan of the State Government. 8457. SHRI KAlLASH MEGHWAL: Will (c) Does not arise. the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Pollution of Bokaro River (a) the number of cases under investi- gation by the Central Bureau of Investigation 8456. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the Minister in Rajasthan both in its original jurisdiction of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be and those entrusted to by the State Govern- pleased to state: ment of Rajasthan: and (a) whether Government are aware that (b) the number of cases in which inves- Bokaro river is being polluted by the wastes tigation have been completed and are pend- of the West Bokaro Colliery in Hazaribag ing to be challaned? under TiSeO thus creating drinking water problem amongst the tribals in the down- THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- stream; and WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (b) if so, details thereof and the steps (b) 6 cases. taken in this regard? National Perspective Plan lor Women THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI 8458. SHRIMATIJ.JAMUNA: WIIlthe ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). Effluents released PRIME MINISTER be pteased to state: 65 Written Answers VAlSAKHA24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswetS 66 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Loans for Wasteland Development DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF 8460. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA WELFARE (SHRIMATI USHA SINHA); (a) RAJE: Will the Minister of ENVIROttMENT Yes, Sir. AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (b) to (d). DeCISions on certain recom- mendatIOns of the National Perspective Plan (a) whether State Governments had have been taken. Their Implementation in- taken loan from financial institutions for waste- volve a large number of Minlstnes, Depart- land development during Seventh Pian: ments and State Governments and is fol- lowed time to time. It IS therefore, not pos- (b) if so, the amount of loan given to sible to measure their Impact at present. each state by different financial institutions for that purpose: and Electronic Units in Backward Areas (c) the details of net result achieved in 8459. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA Seventh Plan in different States with regard RAJE: Will the PRIME MIN ISTER be pleased to the development of wasteland? to state: (a) the State-wIse number of electronic THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT units set up after the ::1troduction of new AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI electrOntc pollcy: ROUTRAY): (a) During the Seven~ Plan penod, the State Governments have not (b) whether the electrOnics policy has taken loans for wastelands development from been able to create any progress in the the financial institutions in the country. backward areas of the country; and ~) Does not arise. (c) if so, the details of varIOus electrOniC Untts set up In the backward areas of R8Jast- han since the introduction of the new elec- (c) During the Seventh Plan period, the trontcs policy? main emphasis in wastelands development has been on afforestation and tree planting THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE under the 20 Point Programme. 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OJ to ::r:: c: 0.. CD :§ i5 to :s Cij c: Z .s:::: ~ Q. (ij Z to aO E !!! :::: CD GO .s:::: to a; (I) ~ ::> 3: <{ () 0 0 0 ~ t") ~ It') cD r....: a:i Cl ci -.: N N N N N N N ("') (I) 75 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 76 ,..... II) en iQ 0> ~ c: ~ 0 i~ It) \0 N -0 ~ (J) II) ~ ,..... c: M ell .1 i 0> ~~ II) Z If) <0 .s::: OJ c: 0 0 0 ~ Q..t.. 0 0 0 10 O)!!! an c::) ci QQ) N 0 II) Q)~ " [ Translation] those houses to them; and Allotment of House. In Khelgaon (f) if so, the reasons therefor? 8461. SHRITHANSINGHJATAV: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (a) whether houses constructed during MEHTA): (a) Yes, Sir. 'ASIAD' 1982 were allotted to Sports Author- ity of India in Khelgaon; (b) 16 flats; the value of each is indi- cated in the statement. (b) if so, the number of houses allotted and value of each of the houses: (c) Allotments were made keeping the best interests of Sports Authority of India in (c) whether Sports Authority of India view. has allotted some houses on prlorrty basis; (d) whether some of the houses of (d) Out of the above 16 flats, 5 are Sports Authority of India in Khelgaon are reported to be vacant. One of the flats is vacant: if so, when allotment ofthese houses earmarked for the Secretary, SAl who is yet Will be made: to join. The possession of the remaining 4 has not yet been taken by the SAl from the (e) whetherthe Sports Authority of India DDA. IS incurring losses of revenue due to the houses lying vacant and the employees are (e) and (f). Detailed information is being facing difficulty because of non-allotment of obtained form the Sports Authority of India. STATEMENT Value of Each of the Houses in Asian Games ViHage Complex SI.No. Flat No. Value 2 3 1. S-I 499 Rs. 9,90,800 2. S-II 506 Rs. 11,21,500 3. S-II 507 Rs. 11,21,500 4. S-I 510 Rs. 9,90,800 5. S-I 511 Rs. 9,90,800 6. S-II 512 Rs. 11,21,500 7 S-II 513 Rs. 11,21,500 79 Written AnSW91S MAY 14,1990 Written AnswglS 80 SI.No. Flat No. Value 1 2 3 8. P-4 595 Rs. 9,53,900 9. P-7 644 Rs. 12,96,900 10. P-7 645 Rs. 12,96,900 11. P-4 671 Rs. 9,53,900 12 P-6 673 Rs. 11,89,400 13 P-4 676 Rs. 9,53,900 14 P-4 719 Rs. 9,53,900 15 P-6 721 Rs. 11,89,400 16. P-4 725 Rs. 9,53,900 [EnglIsh] (e) whether Government propose to bring forward a bill to provide teeth to the Protection of Historical Monuments ArchaeologICal Survey to do Its work effec- tively? 8462 SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA MURTHY. Will the PRIME MINISTER be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (a) whether the ArchaeologICal Survey MEHTA):(a)to(e) Drfflcultresandproblems of India has brought to the nottce of Govern- for protection of monuments In the country ment the diffICulties faced by It In protecting Including Belhl are reviewed periodICally In the HistorICal Monuments In the country. consultatIOn with Archaeological Survey of partICularly In DeIhl India (ASI) and the Central AdvIsory Board of Archaeology and measures are under- (b) If so. the action taken thereon. taken for preserving monuments and safe- guarding environ thereof for the benefit of (c) whether government have formu- posterity. lated a comprehensive strategy for the pro- tection of Monuments and tor preserving the Certain proposals for amendment to the environment around them eXlstmg laws are under conSideration In consultation With the State Governments (d) If so. the details thereof. and and Unron T erntones. 81 Written AnsW91S VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsW91S 82 Forest Development Programmes In (b) if so, what are their demands; and Andhra Pradesh (c) the reaction of Government thereto? 8463. SHRI M.G. REDDY: Will the Ministeraf ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (a) the name of States where centrally MEHTA): (a) Yes, Sir. sponsored Rural Fuelwood plantation Scheme, Waste Land Development Pro- (b) The demands of the All India PO and grammes, and Afforestation Programme are APO. Nehru Yuva Kendra Employees' Wel- being implemented: fare Association (AE) which is neither recog- nised nor registered are, continuance of (b) whether such schemes are being service, running scale of pay as per rule implemented in Andhra Pradesh: instead of fixed pay, facility of TAlDAlHRAI CCA, residential accommodation, medical (c) if so, since when and the district- facilities, bonus, provision of Jeep for doing wise details thereof: and field work, preference in appointment in the filed of adult education in Delhi Administra- (d) the total hectares of land in Chittoor tion and issue of order for running this pro- District of Andhra Pradesh that has been grammes on regular basis in accordance brought under these schemes? with Government's declaration to give each individual the fundamental right to work. THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI (C) The Nehru Yuva Kendra Sangathan ROUTARY): (a) The afforestationltree plant- was assigned the task of imparting func- ing activities are being carried out in all tional literacy to the adult learners during States including Andhra Pradesh under 1988r-89 and 16000 adult education centres various Central State Plan Schemes, includ- were sanctioned for the purpose. The Proj- Ing the Externally Aided Social Forestry ect Officers, Asstt. Project Officers and other Projects in 14 States. functionaries were appointed by the Nehru Yuva Kendra Sangathan. being the imple- (b) Yes, Sir. menting agency for executing the pro- gramme. These adult education centres (c) and (d). The information is being completed their cycle during 1989-90. Con- collected and will be laid on the Table of the sequently, the functionaries of the adult House. education programme have ceased to be in the service. The question of taking any ac- Demands of Nehru Yuva Kendra tion on their demands, as such does not Employees arise. 8464. SHRI MANIK SANYAL: Will the [ Translation} PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Cleaning of Rivers in Maharashtra (a) whether a memorandum dated 19 February. 1990 has been received by Gov- 8465. SHRI HARIBHAU SHANKAR ernment from All India Nehru Yuva Kendra MAHALE: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- Employees Welfare Association: MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: 83 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 84 (a) the names of rivers In Maharashtra THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for which actIOn plan for cleaning these riV- MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- ers IS being Implemented. VELPPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA)' (a) and (b) Yes. Sir As a result of (b) the work done so far under thiS plan excavations. a township haVing a guard In Maharashtra and the amount spent on thiS rangular plan and fortifications has oeen work. and brought to hght at Dholavlra thrOWing new light on the Indus Valley Culture It consists (c) the time by whICh thiS work Will be ofthree pnnClpal dIVISions, VIZ, a cltadal with completed and the total amount allocated for gateways. a water reservoir and an upper thiS work? and a lower township Exposed remains of structures contam room, fire-places, stor- age-Jars, drams and sullage-Jars, etc Some THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT moms show the eVidence of craft-activities AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI Notable antiquities found In the excavations ROUTARY) (a) to (c) In Maharashtra no compnse beSides the characterrstlC pottery, action plan for cleaning any river IS being seals, sealtng, copper flgunne of an animal, Implemented An Action Plan for cleaning beads of varIOus matenals Itke semi-pre- thp river Krishna has been prepared by the CIOUS stones, copper and gold, bangles of State Governments of Maharashtra, Andhra varIOus matenals, copper and stone Imple Pradesh and Karnataka and submitted to ments and fragments of a stone pillar, per- the Unron Government for financial assIs- haps the earhest known specImen of ItS kmd tance The Plan can be conSidered durrng In the Indian sub-continent Eighth Five Year Plan based on the expen- ence gained from the Ganga Action Plan and (c) Steps for publtclty of thiS discovery the avaIlabIlity of funds have already been taken through RadiO and Press Measures have been taken for Its preservation [English] Development Strategy for Eighth Five Excavation of Dholavlra in Kutch Year Plan 8466 SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL 8467 SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to stClte state (a) whether the Unron Government (a) whether any expert study has sInce have finalised the development strategy to bpen made of the new rare finds recently be followed dunng the Eighth Five Year Dian excavated from the ancIent site of Dholavlra penod In Kutch and the new Itght they throw on the (b) If so, the details thereof, and Indust Valley ClvlhsatlOn and Harappan cul- (c) If not, the reasons therefor? ture THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) If so the detaIls thereof and MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- (c) the steps taken to make thIS study GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI pubhc nnd to preserve the pxcavatlOns? BHAGEY GOBARDHAN) (a) and (b) The 85 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 development strategy to be followed during (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. Restoration of the Eighth Five Year Plan period will be ecological balance and substainable growth reflected In the 'Approach to the Eighth Plan have'been accorded priority under the vari- document. While the Central thrust in the ous plan programmes of the Government. approach to the Plan will be on employment, These include restoration of degraded areas the broad areas of thrust are strengthening through a National Wasteland Mission, or- the federal structure, decentralisation of ganisation of eco-development camps, eco- authority, people's partICipation, a greater regeneration by Eco-T ask Forces, mounting emphaSIS on the development of the rural of awareness programmes through involve- sector, and Special focus on women's role in ment of Non Governmental Organisations, economic activity. population control through various incen- tives and facilities -and legislation against (c) Does not anse deforestatIOn. Environmental Problems Facing India Facilities to U_S. Based Computer Manufacturers in India 8468. SHRI DILIP SINGHJU DEO: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- 8469. SHRI RAMDAS SINGH: Will the ESTS be pleased to state' PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (a) whether India also observed Apnl22 (a) whether several U.S. based com- marking the 20th anniversary of the first puter manufacturers are setting up produc- Earth Day, If so, the highlights thereof: tion facilities for computer hardware in India; (b) whether any long-term plan has (b) if so, the details thereof: and been or.5 being prepared to restore ecologi- cal balance and check the population explo- (c) whether they are floating JOint ven- Sion, Imbalanced growth and heavy defores- tures with Indian companies: If so, the details tation, and thereof? (c) rf so. liS broad features and rf not. the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reasons therefor? MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) to (c). THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT Yes, Sir. Thefollowmg U.S. based computer AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI manufacturers have set up or in the process POUTARY): (a) Yes, Sir The hlghhghts of of setting up, production facilities for com- the observatIOn of Earth Day In India are a puter hardware in IndIa: message to the people by the Pnme MiniS- ter. speCial features and supplements pub- 1. Attan Corporation lished by leading dallies/journals all over the country, tree plantation, panel diSCUSSIOns, 2. Digital EqUIpment Corporation seminars, symposia, workshops, melas, ralhes,exhlbltlOns, qUIz and painting compe- 3. Hewlett Packard Co. titions on the theme of environmental protec- tion organised by a large number of Non 4. Ironies Inc. Governmental OrganisatIOns all over the country 5. NCR CorporatIOn 87 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 88 6. Unisys Corporation received in the matter were examined and the site was also i.,spected. It has been These U.S. based computer manufac- found that the present location is the most tures are floating joint ventures with the suitable for siting the Kendriya Vldyalaya. following Indian companies, respectively; Building. for Navodaya Vldyalayas In MIs STP Limited, Calcutta Andhra Pradesh 2. MIs Hinditron Computers Pvt. 8471. SHAI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: Ltd. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: 3. M/s Blue Star. Bombay (a) the number and locations of Na- 4. Mis IronlCs MICroprocessors Pvt. vodaya Vidyalayas runmng in Andhra Ltd. Pradesh; 5 MIs Wellman (Hlndustan) Pvt. (b) number of such Vidyalayas as are Ltd., Bombay functiomng without buildings: 6 MIs Tata Sons (c) steps being taken to provide suitable buildings to these Vidyalayas; and Site for Kendriya vldyalaya, cannanore (d) the amount likely to be spent on 8470. SHRI MULAPPALLY RAMA- constructIOn of buildings dunng the year CHANDRAN' Will the PRIME MINISTER be 1990-91? pleased to state (a) whether the site for constructing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE permanent bUlldmg tor KendrlYa Vldyalaya, MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Cannanore, Kerala has since been decided; VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a) Details of the number of loca- (b) whether some objectIOns were re- tions' of Navodaya Vidyalayas running in ceived by the Government against the con- Andhra Pradesh are given in the Statement structIOn ofthe school bUlkhng In Fort Maldan gIVen below at Cannanore. (c) whether any study was made to (b) All Vldyalayas are functIOning in determine the feasibllrty of any alternate srte buildings provided either by the State Gov- for the bUilding, and ernment on a temporary baSIS or in buildings constructed/procured by the Navodaya (d) If so, the details thereof? Vldyalaya Samiti. (c) Details are given at the Annexure THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE referred to in reply to part (a) to the question. MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA RAMANNA). (a) Yes, Sir. (d I Estimated amount likely to be spent on oonstruction of buildings during the year (b) to (d). A number of representatIOns 1990-91 is As. 2 crores. 89 Written Answets VAISAKHA 24,191 ~ (SAKA) Written Answets 90 V) ~ ~e .-0 ~ t:: ..5l! i!: ..Q <:) ~ 0 0 0 0 0 0 ..9! i ~ ,g -~ Cb q; ~ Q> ~ Q> Q> e:> a.. C\I C\I ~ E '£ (Y) 0'1 0'1 C") 0'1 0'1 ct 8 a (j) ..c:: '0 ,..._ c: ~ -lie 0'1 co r- ~ co 0 I.!) :;) .!1;! I.!) I.!) -~ ~ t- 0'1 ~ ~ .!;; - (j) a ..c:: ~ i -lie I.!) (U t:: C\I C\I ~ ~ 0 .!1;! 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I I Q. 2 ~ r r 0'1 CD I cD CD 0'1 r E 1\1 :; c: Q. .Q 1\1 (ij ~ Q. o -.J 8, ::::I r:::: CD > E as (ii CD as r:::: -~ N :> o C\I 95 Wnlten Answers MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 96 Instltut•• of Material Science and Life In the area of Life Science, apart from Science the work being done in the agricultural uni- versities ir. the area of Agricultural Science, 8472. SHRI BASAVAPUNNAIAH Several life Science departments in major SINGAM' Will the PRIME MINISTER be Universities in the country are also carrying pleased to state: out research in Life Science. In addition, Institutions such as: Bose Institute, Calcutta; (a) the number of Institutes of Matenal Maharashtra AssociatIOn for CultivatIOn of SCience and Life SCience In the country Sctence, Pune; Blrbal Sahni Institute of Palae together with their locations, botany, Lucknow; National Institute of Im- munology, New Deihl; NatIOnal Institute of (b) whether government propose to set Nutrl\lon. Hyderabad; laboratories of Coun- up some such institutes In Andhra Pradesh. Cil of SCientific & Industrial Research e.g and National Botanical Research Institute, Lucknow, Central Institute of MediCinal and (c) rf so, the details thereof? AromatIC Plants, Lucknow, Central Drug Research Institute, Lucknow, Centre for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Cellular and Mollecular BIOlogy, Hyderabad. MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- All India Institute of MedICal SCiences, New OGY (PROF M G K MENON) (a) Material Deihl, SanJay Gandhi Post-Graduate Insti- SCience and Lrfe SCience are Interdiscipli- tute of MedICal SCiences, Lucknow: Post nary fields In which research IS being carned Graduate Institute of Medical EducatIOn and out In a number of natlonallaboratones and Res·earch, ChandlQarh and maJOr Institu- Universities In one or more facets of these tions under Indian CounCil of Agricultural areas In the area of MatenaI SCIence, Research, Indian CounCil of Moo real Re- Government has set up major Institutions, search, Department of BIO-technology, like Central Glass an Caramlcs Research Department of AtomiC Energy and Ministry Institute, Calcutta NatIOnal MetallurgICal of EnVironment and Forests (Botanical Sur- Laboratory, Jamshedpur RegIOnal Research vey of Ind.a, Howrah. Zoological Survey of Lal!>oratory, Bhubneshwar Regional Re- India, Calcutta, Forest Research Institute, search Laboratory. Bhopal Matenal SCience Dehra Dun and other Institutions under centre at IlTs, (Kanpur and Deihl) ICFRE) also carry out and support research programmes In Life SCiences Matenal SCience research IS also being The names given above are only to conducted at the Tata InstltLJte of Funda- Illustrate the extent and diverSity of Institu- mental Research Bombay Bhabha Atomic tions engaged In work In Material and Life Research Centre. Trombay. Regional Re- SCiences and not meant to be comprehen- search Laboratory. Tnvandrum. National sive PhYSical Laboratory New Deihl Vlkram (b) Government has no proposals In Sarabhal Space Centre. Tnvandrum. De- thiS regard at the present fence MetallurgIcal Research Laboratory (c) Does not anse Hyderabad, Naval ChemICal and Metallurgi- cal Laboratory, Bombay. Defence Matenals Meeting of National Council (JCM) and Stores Research and Development Establishment. Kanpuf Solid State PhYSICS 8473. SHR' RAMSHRAY PRASAD Laboratory and Defence SCience Labora- SINGH: Will the PRIME MINISTER be tory. Delhi and other Ills and Universities pleased to state 97 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 98 (a) whether a meeting of the NatIOnal 5 IncreaSing the hmlt of earned leave CounCIl (JCM) was held In the last week of whICh can be granted at a time form April, 1990 In New Deihl, and 120 days to 180 days (b) If so, the details of the decisIOns 6 Treatment of StagnatIOn Increment taken at the meeting and when the same are as basiC pay for all purpose other hkely to be Implemented? than pay fixatIOn on promotion THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- 7 SanctIOn of water allowance to WANATH PRATAP SINGH) (a) The 34th Central Government employees ordinary meeting of the National CounCil posted In places haVing acute scar- (JCM) was held on 28th April 1990 In New city of water dUring hot summer Deihl months (b) A Statement regarding Items on One Sitting Graduation and Post which the deciSions were taken In thiS meet- Graduation Course Ing of the National CounCil IS attached Necessary orders Implementing the deci- 8474 SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS sions would be Issued by the respectIVe Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Mlnlstnes/Departments after obserVing for- state malities (a) whether certain Universities are STATEMENT alloWing/providing one sitting graduatIOn/post graduation courses/examinatIOns, even with- List of major deCISions taken acceptmg the out prequahflcatlOns resulting In Increase In demands of the Staff Side In the 34th adult literacy In the country Ordmary Meetmg of the NatIOnal Council (JCM) held on 28 4 1990 (b) If so, whether Universities Will be directed to Introduce the system to meet the Grant of Dally Allowance for Jour- Widespread demand for such degrees, neys In connection With second Medical opinion (C) whether the Government have In- Vited proposals from State/Umversltles/UGC 2 Grant of HRA to Central Govern to formulate uniform pattern In the current ment employees posted at NOlda at Literacy Year In thiS regard and Deihl rates ~) If not, the reasons therefor? 3 Employees whose pay IS upto Rs 35 ~Ol P m need not produce rent THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE receipt for grant of Income Tax MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE exemption on HRA except In cases VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI where the Income Tax Officer takes MEHTA) (a) to (d) The Open University up any particular case for scrutinY System has been initiated In order to aug ment opportunrtles for Higher Education and 4 Counting the pre recruitment train prOViding opportunities to Wider sections Ing period for pay fixation on regular The Indira Gandhi National Open University appointment was established In 1985 With a View, Inter 99 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 100 alta, to proVIde access to hlQher educatIOn (b) whether these are in pursuance of for large segments of the population, In recommendations of a sub-committee ap- partICular the dlSadvantag$d groups and to pointed for the purpose about 4 years back; Introduce an InnovatIVe system of UnIVersity and level educatIOn, whICh IS flexible and open .n regard to methods and pace of learning, (c) If so, details thereof and modifICa- ehglblllty and enrolment, age of entry, etc tIOns made, if any? The Indira Gandhi NatIOnal Open Uni- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE versity has adopted entry rules for Its aca- MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- demIC programmes under whICh candidates VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI who have not passed the 10+2 examination MEHTA)' (a) Availability of medICal facili- are ehglble for admiSSIOn to the undergradu- ties, residential accommodation, marketing ate programme provided they qualify In a faCilities, educatIOnal faCIlities, communica- specially destgned entrance test tion problems etc were kept In view for identifying a statIOn as diffIcult Some State Open Universities and a few institutes of Correspondence Studies (b) and (c) A Committee constituted as attached to State Umversltles, have also per deciSion of Board of Governors In Its relaxed entry qualifICations for admiSSIOn to meeting held on December. 1984 IdentifIed selected courses as tenure/difficult stations, locations of all the Kendnya Vldyalayas In North Easter ~rdlng to information furnished by Reg,on comprising the States of Assam, University Grants CommissIOn, the Com- Meghalaya, Mampur, Nagaland, Tnpuraand miSSIOn has recently CIrculated gUidelines to the UnIOn Terrrtories of Arunachal Pradesh, the unlversltles.for formulating proposals for M,zoram & Andaman & NlCobar Islands and the 8th Plan and have, Inter aha requested 35 other statIOns In the meanWhile, San- the unIVersities to exercise restraint In elt- gathan received suggesttons from the Prin- panslOn of enrolment In the formal stream at Cipals/AssIstant Commissioners/of the re- undergraduate level and dIVert students to gIOns to Include new statIOns In the list of non-formal stream through Open UniversI- hard statIOns ties/Correspondence CoLKseS, etc Accordingly another Commrttee was Definition of Hard Stations constituted to revIew the whole matter and make recommendatIOns ThIs Committee 8475 SHRI LAXMINARAYAN' N- identified 25 startons as diffICult stations DEY How~ver Board of Governors In Its meeting SHRI RAGHAVJI held on 137,89 approved 24 diffICult sta- tIOns and thiS lIst of difficult stations does not Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased Include statlOl"s In North Eastern ~eglon to state compnsmg states of Assam, Meghalaya, Mampur, Nagaland, Tnpura, Arunachal (a) the criteria on the baSIS of wh.. ':h Pradesh and Mlzoram where the tenure of some statIOns where Kendrl)'a Vldyalayas posting IS governed by the instructions IS- are located, have been declared as diffICult sued by the Government of India In respect or hard statIOns In the context of transfers of of their CIVIlian employees serving In these teachers posted there, areas 101 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 Preference to Rural candidate. In THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Indian Instttute of Management MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA RAMANNA) (a) and (b) Yes, Sir The 8476 SHRI H C SRIKANTAIAH Will General employees of Salntk School, Chlt- the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state torgarh, were on Strike from 7th Dec '89 to 9th Jan'90 In support of their demands which (a) the number of candidates admitted Included fiXing of working hours of the Staff. for varIOus courses at Indian Institute of and Issue of Bata shoes as a part of livery management. Bangalore dUring 1989-90, These demands were mostly of administra- tive nature and were met to the extent pos- (b) how many of them are rural areas of Sible Karnataka and Pollotion by Sugar Mills and Distilleries (c) whether any preference was given In Bihar to the candidates from rural areas of Karna- taka? 8478 SHRI RAJ MANGAL MISHRA Will the Mlntster of ENVIRONMENT AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE FORESTS be pleased to state MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (a) whether the water of rivers In Bihar MEHTA) (a) The Indian Instrtute of Man- IS being polluted due to release of effluents agement, Bangalore admitted 160 students by Sugar Mills and dlstillenes In Bihar, and to the Post-Graduate Programme In Man- agement dunng the year 1989-90 (b) If so the preventive steps being take(l by Government In thiS regard? (b) and (c) Although In 1989, there was no specific policy of welghtage to be given to THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT students hailing from rural areas the Insti- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI tute has Informed that out of 21 students ROUTRAY) (a) Yes Sir admitted from Karnataka two students hailed form rural areas of that State (b) The Government have Identified sugar and distillery industries as priority [ TranslatIon} Industries for taking concerted action to secure compliance of effluent standards, Agitation by Employees of Salnlk and regular mOnitoring of the progress In th,s School, Chittorgarh, Rajasthan regard IS being regular monitOring of the progress In thiS regard IS being done There 8477 SHRIGULABCHAND KATARIA are 28 sugar mills In Bihar Out of these, 20 Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to sugar mills have prOVided partial effluent state treatment plants (ETP) , and In one unit ETP IS under construction In the remaining seven (a) whether the employees of Salnlk units construction of ETP IS In the planning School, Chlttorgarh Rajasthan went on stage There are 11 dlstillenes In Bihar Out agitation In support of their demands and of these one unit has an effluent treatment plant (ETP) three Units have partial ETPs, In (b) If so the details thereof and action four Units ETPs are under construction and taken thereon? In the remaining three units ETPs are In the 103 Written AnsW9fS MAY 14.1990 Written Answens 104 planntng stage. The Industries have been which decisions were taken earlier not to advised to implement the primary treatment accept them. are currently being reviewed. facilities by July 15. 1990. One such Award relating to grant of Cash Allowance to postmen for handling cash has (English] been decided to be accepted for implemen- tation on review. hnplementlltlon of Award. of eo.rd of Arbitration De-ReMf'Ylltlon of SCIST Vacancl•• 8479. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Will 8480. DR. BHAGWAN DASS AATHOR: the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (a) whether several awards gIVen by the Board of ArbItratIon In respect of Central (a) whether Government propose to Government employees are yet to be Imple- make a policy not to de-reserve the Sched- mented by the Departments concerned. uled Castes/Scheduled Tribes vacancies: and (b) whether such awards relate. among other matters, to encashment of earned leave, (b) If so, when? grant of conveyance allowance to all non- gazetted employees and date of effect of grant of House Rent and Compensatory City THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- Allowances. and WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) There is a ban on dereservatlon wnh effect from (c) if so, the reasons for inordinate 1 4.1989 to direct recruItment to Groups A. delay In ImplementatIOn of these and other B, C &0. In rare and exceptIOnal cases awards and by whom these wIll be Imple- where after the non-avallablhty of surtable mented? SC/ST candidates posts In Group A cannot be allowed to remaIn vacant In publIC Inter- THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- est, dereservatlOn can be made after follow- WANATH PRATAP SINGH) (a) to (c) 4 Ing prescnbed procedure There IS no pro- Awards given by the Board of ArbItratIon, posal to ban dereservatlOn In promotIOn which Include the Awards relating to encash- ment of Earned Leave and grant of convey- (b) does not anse ance allowance are pendIng for a deCISIOn regardmg theIr acceptance/ImplementatIon Nutrition Programme for Women Farm by the Government The Award relatIng to Labour date of effect for grant of HRA and CCA has been accepted and orders to Implement and Award were Issued on 4-5-1990 Out of the 8482 KUMARI UMA BHARATI' Will four pendIng Awards. the Government have the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state. deCIded to accept two Awards for Implemen- tatIOn Tl'le other two Awards wh,ch Involve (a) whether Government propose to huge frnanclallmphcatlons are under examI- undertake nutrrtlon programme and health nation and famIly welfare measures In respect of women farm labour; and In addition, 4 Awards of Board of ArbI- tration relating to years 1982 to 1986 on (b) If so, the detaIls thereof? 105 Written AnsW8tS VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Writt"n AnswetS 106 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE UPSC for Grade I of the Central Secretariat DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN AND CHILD Service owing to a case pending in the DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Supreme Court. In filling such vaCancies, WELFARE (SHRIMATI USHA SINHA): (8) reservation of 15% for Scheduled Caste& No, Sir. and 7 1120/0 for Scheduled Tribes is avail- able. Vacancies in Grade lof the Central (b) Does not arise. Secretariat Service to be filled by members of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Recruitment of Under Secretaries In Tribes tor which eligible officers are not Central Secretariat Service available are filled on the results of a Limited Departmental Competitive Examination held 8483. SHRI CHAND RAM: Will the by the -Union Public Service Commission PRIME MINISTER be pleased te;» state: from time to time. (a) the numbe; of posts of Under Sec- Pollution Check of Automobiles retaries in the Central Secretariat Services; 8484. SHRI SUBEDAR: Will the Minis- (b) the number of vacancies of Under ter of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be Secretary as on :l January, 1990; pleased to state: (c) the number of posts filled up from (a) whether Government propose to amongst Scheduled Castes and Schesiuled issue guidelines to ensure that all automo- Tribes candidates respectively; and bile service stations etc. While servicirig automobile vehicles including two-wheelers (d) the measures taken to safeguard to make them poHotion free; and the interest of Scheduled Castes and Sched- uled Tribes candidates to fill vacant reserved (b) if not, the reasons therefor? posts of Under Secretaries? THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) to (d). The ROUTRAY): (a) No. Sir. posts of Under Secretaries in the Central Secretariat are filled under the Central Staff- (b) Emission standards for motor ve- ing Scheme. Except when they are filled by hicles have been notified underthe amended officers of the Central Secretariat Service, Motor Vehicle Act, 1988. The responsibility the posts are filled on deputation for which 01 ensuring that a vehicle meets the emis- there is no reservation for Scheduled Castes! sion standards is that of the owner. Scheduled Tribes. At present there are 470 Grade I officers in the Central Secretariat [ Translation] Service working as Under Secretaries on a regular basis on the Central Secretariat. Of Electronic Units In U.P. and Maharash- these 73 belong to the Scheduled Castes tra and 7to Scheduled Tribes. On 1.1.1990,241 posts of Under Secretaries were vacant or 8485. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA were yet to be filled on regular basis. No GAVIT: assessment, however. has been made as to SHRI R.N. RAKESH: the number of these vacancies that would Will the PR1ME MINISTER be pleased have to be filled in consultation with the to state: 107 Written AnsW91$ MAY 14, 1990 Written Answel$ 108 (a) the facilities being provided by (b) if so, the number of colleges recog- Government for setting up electronic units in nised by this University; Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra; (c) whether Government contemplate (b) whether Government propose to set to entrust thelask of according recognition to up new electronic units at Allahabad in U.P. the Sanskrit Colleges to any other universi- and Dhuha In Maharashtra: and ties in the States in which the Colleges are proposed to be opened; and (c) if so, the details thereof and the amount earmarked for this purpose? (d) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- OGY (PROF. M.G.K MENON). (a) Govern- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI ment of India encourages the setting up of MEHTA): (a) to (d). According to the infor- electronic industries throughout the country matIOn furnished by the University Grants In all relevant sectors of electronICs The CommIssion, affthatlOn of colleges to dIffer- concerned State Government or agencies ent UniverSitIes IS governed by the prOVISIon hke the State Electronics Development of their Acts/Statutes. A number of UniverSI- CorporatIOns (SEOCs) provide some faclh- tIes In the country have granted affIliation to ties and promotional incentives for setting up Sanskrit Colleges of SpecrflC mdustnal Units In the state The Department of EldronlCs gives necessary SectIOn 15(1 )(b) of the Banaras HIndu gUidance aAd approvals/licences etc De- University Act, 1915, empowers the Univer- partment of ElectronICs also prOVIdes some SitY' to admit Colleges and InstitutIOns, with,n assIstance for proJects In areas such as a radiUS of 15 miles from the maIO temple of manpower development and educatIOn, the UniverSity, to the priVileges of the Untver- quahty control. testing and standardisatIOn, slty. Four Colleges located In Varanasl have R& 0 In electronICS etc These conSidera- so far been admitted to the priVIleges of the tions would apply to the settmg up of elec- University. However, none of these Colleges tronre Industnes In Uttar Pradesh and Ma- Imparts Sanskrit educatIOn exclUSIvely. harashtra Disposal of Cases Under Forest (Con- (b) There IS no proposal at present for servation) Act, 1980 setting up new electronIC Units 10 Allahabad, U P and Dhuha In Maharashtra In the De· 8487. SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABIL- partment of ElectronICS DAS RANA: Wilt the MInister of ENVIRON- MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (c) Does not anse fa) whether the conference of the State Recognition of Sanskrit Colleges Forest MInisters held In May, 1 989 had au- thorised the regIOnal OfficeS for the qUIck 8486. SHRI R.N. RAKESH' W,ll the dIsposal of cses pertaining to one hectare f'RIME MINISTER be pleased to state area of Forest land under Forest (Conserva- tion) Act, 1980; (a) whether recognition to Sanskrtt Colleges IS accorded by the Banaras Hindu (b) If so, the number of such cases University only: recerved bvthe regIonal offICe in Bhopal upto 109 Written AnswefS VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Written AnswefS 110 31 st March. 1990 and the number of cases (b) Kendrtya Vldyalaya Sangathan IS disposed thereof. and treated as a State for collecting subSCription from the pubbc. From the annual collectIOns. (c) whether Government propose to Rs. 25,000/- was paid by the Kendriya authOrise State governments to dispose of Vldyalaya Sangathan as annual contnbutlOl'1 such cases at their level keeping In view the to the National foundatIOn for Teachers delay In dispoSing of these cases? Welfare dunng 1988-89. In additIOn 10% of the total collections was also paid to natIOnal THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT FoundatIOn for Teachers Welfare The Ken- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI draya Vldyalaya Sangathan became the ROUTRAY) (a) The conference of the State member of thIS foundatIOn dunng 1988-89 Forest MInisters held In May, 1989 had rec- ommended delegation of powers under the Act to regional offlCo?s of the MInistry to clear (c) Dunng 1988-89, 3 apphcatlOns re- cases Involving forest diverSions less than ceIVed from teachers/dependants were one hectare The recommendation has been conSidered by Kendnya Vldyalayas San- accepted and powers have been delegated gathan State working Committee and none to the regional offices under the Act of them was found suitable for the flnancaal assistance and as such, no rehef was gIVen (b) Regional Office Bhopal received 25 dUring 1988-89 However, apphcatlOns re- such proposals upto 31 st March 1990 Out of ceived dunng 1989-90 are under examina- thpse 21 cases have been disposed off tion and Will be conSidered by the duly con- (c) There IS no such proposal under stituted Committee of Kendrtya Vldyalaya ronslderatlOn of the Government Sangathan [Enalish) Delegation of Powers of State Govern- ment Under Forest (Conservation) Act. Kendraya Vldyalaya Sengathan Employ- 1980 ees 8489 SHRICHHABIRAMARGAL Will 8488 SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- JEE Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased ESTS be pleased to state to state (a) whether Unton Government pro- (a) whether Kendnya Vldyalaya San- pose to delegate powers to State Govern- qathan contributes 10 National Foundation of ments for speedily disposal of cases under Tr>achers Forest (ConservatIOn) Act, 1980. (b) If so the details thereof and (c) the details of teachers of Kendrtya ttl) whether Madhya Pradesh govern- Vldyalaya Sangathan who have been bene- r11ent have recommended to exclude treeless fited whose surveys have been benefited revenue areas recorded as "Big/Smail tree durrng last three years? Forest~ out of the demarcated forest cover, and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (c) whether Government have accepted VELOPMENT I >HRI CHIMANBHAI the recommendatIOns. If not, the time-limit MEHTA) (a) Yes ;Ir for taking a deCISion In thiS regard? 111 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 112 THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT from direct quota both general and reserved AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI for the academic session 1989-90; ROUTRAY): (a) No, Sir. (b) the details of number of vacancies of (b) Yes, Sir. each category of teachers which was to be filled up for 1989-90; (c) The Government have not accepted the recommendations. (c) the details of vacancies in each category of teachers which hae since been Vacant Posts of Teachers filled up; and 8490. SHRI SHIVAJI PATNAIK: Will (d) the details of number of select the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to refer to candidates in each category of teachers who the reply given on 16 April, 1990 to Unstar- are still to be offered postings? red Question No. 4863 regarding Advertise- ments of vacant posts by Kendriya Vidyalaya THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and state: MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (a) the numberof vacancies earmarked MEHTA): (a) The vacancies' position ;s fer each category of teachers to be recruited presented below:- Category of No. of vacancies earmarl General Reserved Total 2 3 4 PGTs 394 120 514 TGTs 413 228 641 PRTs 616 339 955 SUPW Teachers 89 50 139 Librarian 40 21 61 Music Teachers 35 19 54 (b) to Cd). Information is being collected to state: and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. (a) whether Government propose to Amendment to Cantonment Electoral amend Cantonment Electoral Rules 1945 to Rules be in consonance with the Conduct of Elec- 8492. JAYAWANTI NAVINCHAN- tion Rules 1961 framed under the Represen- ORA MEHTA: tation of the Peoples Act, 1950; and SUMITRA MAHAJAN: (b) if so, by when, and if not the reasons Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased therefor? , , 3 Written Answers VAISAKHA 2~,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE examined the report titled UA Review of the MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA People's Participation in the Ganga Action RAMANNA): (a) No, Sir. Plan" prepared by the Lal Bahadur Shastri National Academy of Administration, Mus- (b) No need for such amendment has soorie; and been felt. (b) if so, the Government's action Expansiona' ActivHles In Liquid Propul- thereon? sion Centre at Mahendraglrl THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT 8494. SHAIN. DENNIS: Will the PRIME AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI MINISTER be pleased to state: ROUTRAy): (a) Yes, Sir. The Report was prepared by one of the Officers of the Lal (a) whether there are proposals under Bahadur Shastri National Academy of the consideration of the Government for Administration. carrying out expanslOnal activities In the liqUid propulsion centre at Mahendraglri of (b) On the basis of various recommen- Tamil Nadu: and dt;ltions made, including those contained in the Report, the Government is considering (b) If so. the details thereat? steps to increase participation of people in the implementation of the Ganga Action Plan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Proposals in this regard have already been MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- sought from the voluntary agencies identi- OGY (PROF. M.G.K MENON) (a) and (b). fied in the raport. The Liquid Propulsion Test Facllrtles (LPTF) at Mahendraglrl are a part of the Indian Allocations for ICDS Scheme Space Research Organisation (ISRO) and presently comes under the Liquid Propul- 8495. SHRI VIDYADHAR GOKHALE: sion Systems Centre (LPSC) of ISRO! Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Department of Space (DOS). At present the state: work In LPTF is directed towards on-90ln9 project 'programmes The future plans of the (a) the financial outlay proposed for Department Include development of launch Integrated Child Development Services vehicles With geo-statlonary launch capabil- scheme in the Eighth Plan; and Ity can be achieved IS to develop a cryogenic engine and stage The facilities at Mahen- (b) the areas of scheme where im- dr;3glfl will be augmented as and when nec- provement. if any. is contemplated? essary for the testing of cryogenic engine and stage THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN AND CHILD People's Participation in Ganga Action DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Plan WELFARE (SHRIMATI USHA SINHA): (a) The Eighth Plan is yet to be finalised. 8494. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (b) The Integrated Child Development be pleased .0 state. Services (lCDS) Scheme has been reviewed from tiem to time and based on such reviews (a) whether Government have since steps are taken to improve the effectiveness 115 Written AnSW91S MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 116 of the Scheme. However, at present, no (b) Does not arise. change in the existing Scheme is contem- plated. Reduction In Oxygen Content Identity Cards to Voters of Cantonment 8498. PROF. P.J. KURtEN: Will the Boards Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ESTS be pleased to state; 8496. SHRIMATISUMITRAMAHAJAN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (a) whether a study conducted in the state: recent past revealed that the oxygen content in the air in Delhi is declining as a result of (a) whether there IS any proposal to atmospheric pollution: issue identity cards to the voters of Canton- ment Boards in India for avoiding imper- (b) if so, the facts thereof: and sonatlOn. and (c) the steps taken to remedy the situ- (b) If so. when and if not. the reasons ation and the results thereof? theretor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI RAMANNA): (a) No, SIr. ROUTRAY): (a) No. Sir. (b) No :leed for the same has been felt. (b) Does not anse. Anomalies in Pay Scales of Principals of Punjab Colleges (c) The ambient levels of air pollutants 8497. SHRI CHIRANJllAL SHARMA: in Deihl are by and large Within the standards Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to prescribed. The sulphur dioxides OF nitro- state' gen are well within the standards whereas the suspended particulate matter IS on the (a) whether Punjab Government Col- higher side. ThiS IS due to the natural dusty leges Pnnclpals ASSOCIatIOn has urged the conditIOn and emission from thermal power UnIOn government to Issue guideline to the plants. Standards have been prescribed for State to remove anomahes In wages of col- emiSSions from industries and the units have lege princIPals; and been directed to Implement pollutIOn control measures to conform to the standards. Legal (b) rt so, the actIOn taken thereon? action is taken against the defautting units. The standards for emIssions from automo- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE biles is being enforced form March 1, 1990. MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- The Thermal Power Plants have installed VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI electrostatic precipitators of adequate ca- MEHTA): (a) No such representation has pacity and are meetIng the emission stan- been received from the Punjab Government dards. In 8adarpur Thermal Power Plant, College Principals ASSOCiation by the Cen- retrofitting of two of the units is under prog- tral Government ress. 117 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 Setting up of Central Universities (x) Jamia M~lia Islamia 8499. SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD (b) to (e). legislation has been enacted VARMA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be to establish new Central Universities in pleased to state: Assam and Nagaland. There is no proposal under consideration for establishment of any (a) the names of the Central Universi- other Central University during the Eighth ties in the country; Plan. (b) the names of the States in which the Public Sector Units Manufacturing Central Umversitles are to be set up in the Computers Eighth Five Year Plan: 8500. SHRISRIKANTADATTANARA- (c) whether Government are consider- SIMHA RAJA WADlYAR: Will the PRIME Ing to set up a Central Umverslty In the name MINISTER be pleased to state: of Mahatma Gandhi In North Bihar area particularly In the districts of West and East (a) the names of the public sector Champaran. companies manufacturing computers in the country; (d) If so. the details thereof: and (b) whether any such public sector (e) If not. the reasons therefor? company has been set up in Karnataka state; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (c) if so, the performances of each public VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI sector company set up at Karnataka and MEHTA) (a) The names of the Central Unl- elsewhere in the country forthe manufacture versrtles In the country are as follows: of computers in Seventh Plan; (I) Ahgarh Mushm University (d) the investment made by those public sector companies In manufactunng comput- (II) Banaras Hindu University ers In the Seventh Plan; and (III) Unlversrty of Deihl (e) the investment proposed to be made In Eighth Plan? (IV) Jawaharlal Nehru University THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (v) North Eastern HIli Untverslty MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) The fol- (VI) Unlversrty of Hyderabad lowing Central and State Public Sector companies are manufacturing computers and (VII) Vlsva Bharatl computer based systems in the country: (VIII) PondlCherry University 1 . Electronics CorporatIOn of India, Hyderabad. (IX) Indira Gandhi NatIOnal Open Um- 2. Electronic Systems Punjab ltd., versrty Mohah. 119 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 120 3. Kerala State Electronics Develop- (c) The performance of the public sector ment Corporation, Trivandrum. companies in the country during the Seventh Ptan both inthe Central and State Sectors in 4. Meltron Instrumentation Ltd .• the manufadureof computers and computer Sindhuydurg. based systems are given in the statement given below: 5. UPTRON India Ltd .• (Digital Divi- sion), Lucknow. (b) There is no public sector company (d) and (e). The information is being manufacturing computers in Kamataka State collected and will be laid on the Table of the at present. House. 121 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 122 o o o ll') v Q) ai. ci o C\I ex> N ci ci r-- co co V C'") to ci ci C o o o M ll') co a:i o N co o o o ex> en co ci N ci c:: .Q .~ > "E i:5 Q) ~ E Q) E Q) .1:: iii E g- E >- :.:::i Qj ~ en > -0 .0 Q) c: E co CI co .~ "C > :.:::i CJ) ~ c: c.... ·c~ ~ o e. UJ ~ -0 E e ~ "E CD Q) u .1::: Q) 1i) Q) E E ·E >- W:.:::i 2 :.:::i en Q) c: .!!;! UJ 1i) .2 10 0 .E ~ c: Ci5ii3 .E ~ o c: c: 0 is ~ ~ e g~ Q) (D 0 a; a. 0 w ~(.) ~ =>.3 123 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Writttm Answers 124 Population of Bhadra River (b) and (c). Do not arise. 8501. SHRID.M.PUTTEGOWDA:WiII Integrated Child Development Services the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- Scheme ESTS be pleased to state: 8503. DR. VENKATESH KABDE: Will (a) whether due to contInuous mining in the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Kudremukh Iron Ore Project, the waters of river Bhadra is being polluted: (a) whether Government have any pro- posal to bring the whole vulnerable popula- (b) whether the Shadra Dam across tion of the country under Integrated Child river Shadra is getting silted up: and Development Services Scheme? (c) if so, the action taken by the Govern- (b) if so, the details of schedule to cover ment to stop the environmental pollution? whole country; and THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT (c) the amount required to cover the AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI whole country under ICDS? ROUTRAY): (a) to (c). The consent condi- tions stipulated by the Karnataka State Pol- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE lution Control Board to the Kudremukh Iron DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN AND CHILD Ore Project require tl"lat the tailing wastes DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF from the mining operation be impounded in WELFARE (SHRIMATI USHA SINHA): (a) the Lakkya Dam. Only the clear over-flow Yes, Sir. It is proposed to cover the entire water IS allowed to be discharged Into the country with ICDS, in a phased manner. Bhadra flver. (b) Details are not possible to work-out Vacant Houses in Delhi Canton- at this stage as the expansion of the Scheme ment area for Defence Personnel is dependent on the availability of resources and requirements of areas. 8502. SHRI SARJU PRASAD SAROJ: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (c) To cover the entire country by ICDS state: by the end of Eighth Plan approximately additional amount of Rs. 5000 crores would (a) whether the houses built for defence be required. personnel In Deihl Cantonment are lying vacant: Compensatory Afforestation (b) If so. the number of such vacant 8504. SHRI ARVIND NETAM: Will the houses: and Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (c) the reasons for not making the allot- ment? (a) Whether Government have ensured that all environmental protection aspects relating to Sardar Sarovar and Narmaela THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Sagar Projects including catchment area MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA treatment and compensatory afforestation RAMANNA): (a) No, Sir. have been progressing as per the conditions 125 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) WrittfHl Answers 126 stipulated in their clearance; and (b) and (c). No additional districts will be taken up in Gujarat, Karnataka and Uttar (b) if so, details thereof? Pradesh in 1990-91. In the subsequent years the Mahila Samakhya Society in the con- THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT cerned States will recommend further ex- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI panSion based on their experience in the ROUTRAY): (a) and (b) The Narmada Sagar previous years. A proposal for an educa- and Sardar Sarovar Projects were approved tional initiative in Bihar IS under active con- In 1987 with the stipulation that detailed sideration of Government of Bihar and the Environmental Action Plans will be formu- Central Government. The Mahila Samakhya late to be Implemented pari-passu with the approach is envisaged as an essential part engineering works. These plans are being of the strategy in Bihar Education Project for formulated lJy the prOject authorities under three districts to be selected In 1990-91. the overall gUidance of the Narmada Control Authority and Its two Sub Groups, VIZ. EnVI- Imported Fogging l\,1achine Lying Idle ronment Sub Group dealing with EnViron- with Deihl Cantonment Board mental Action Plans and the Rehabilitation SubGroup dealing with satisfactory resettle- 8506. SHRI LA RANG SAl: Will the mpnt of the oustees PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Women's Equality Project (a) whether an Imported fogging ma- chine for killing mosqUitoes etc was pur- 8505. SHRI J CHOKKA RAO Will the chased by the Deihl Cantonment Board about PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state 2 years back; \a) names of the districts where Educa- (b) whether the fogging machine has tion for Women's equality project based on not been functioning satisfactorily ever Since National Policy on Education and programme ItS delivery; and of action In thiS regard have been Imple- mented: (c) If so, the facts thereof and the reme- dial steps taken In thiS regard? (b) whether there IS any proposal to extend/Implement the prolect to more diS- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tricts. and MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA RAMANNA) (a) Yes, Sir (c) If so, the number and names of districts to be covered In 1990-91? (b) and (c). The machine has been breaking down frequently. Difficulties are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE being expenenced In a satisfactory state of MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- repair because genuine spare parts are not VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI readily available MEHTA)' (a) Education for Women's Equal- Ity Project (Mahlla Smakhya) IS being Imple- Schools without buildings in Delhi mented In the Baroda. RaJkot and Sabar- kantadlstncts In GUJarat State. Bihar, BIJapur, 8507. SHRI RAMJI LAL SUMAN: Will Mysore dlstncts of Karnataka State: and the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Banda, Tehri Garhwal, Saharanpur and Varanasl dlstncts of Uttar Pradesh (a) the amount of allocation earmarked 127 Written Answers MAY 14, 1990 Written Answers 128 for construction of buildings for Government (d) the time by when buildings for these Secondary and Senior Secondary Schools tented schools are likely to be constructed? functioning in tents in the Union Territory of Delhi during the last three years, year-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (b) the details of the tented schools VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI housed in the buildings constructed during MEHTA): (a) to (d). The amount of allocation the last three years, year-wise: earmarked for construction of buildings for Government Secondary and Senior Secon- dary Schools functioning in tents in the Un- (c) the details of the schools which are ion Territory of Delhi under Delhi Administra- still functioning in tents and since when they tion during the last three years, year-wise, is are In te,·ts: and as below:- Year Amount in rupees lakhs 1987-88 Rs.SOO 1988-89 Rs.400 1989-90 RS.425 The number of tented schools which were shifted to buildings constructed durir.g the last 3 years:- year 1987-88 24 Schools 1988-89 26 Schools 1989-90 22 Schools As per Deihl Administration, 61 schools Buildings for Navodaya Vldyalayas In are still functioning In tents dUring the past Kerala about 1 -3 yea~s. 8508. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the Deihl Administration opens new schools PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: from time to time In tents at new sites. The construction of buildings is a time consum- (a) whether all navodaya Vidyalayas ~ng process and It takes time for prOViding have the requisite buildings in Kerata: pucca buildings for the schools. Continuous efforts are always made for prOViding pucca (b) if not, the details of the shortages: buildings to schools as early as possible. and 129 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 (c) the steps being taken to provide by the Navodaya Vidyalaya Samiti. suitable buildings to these Vidyalayas? (b) and (c). Shortages pertain mainly to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Class-rooms, Dormitories, and staff quar- MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- ters. Construction of permanent buildings VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI has been taken up for 7 Vidyalayas, and for MEHTA): (a) No, Sir. however, all vidyalayas three Vidyalayas, the works could not be are functioning in bu;idings provided either started due to land problem. The details of by the State Govemment on a temporary the Vidyalayas and work sanctioned are basis or in buildings constructed/procured given_jn the Statement given below. 131 Written AnsW91S MAY 14.1990 Written AnswelS 132 o o Q'> ~ N 00 N N c:) LO CD CD en CD en I o I (.) o ~ o (.) ~ CJ) 1 () 1 ~ 00 I I I 00 I o o o r.:.. o 00 I. 1 "I m 1 ::::l ..r:. "2 ..r:.::::l C oI I' o ~ co (5 c o o o o ci ci (_) (_) I g (_) o en V Z ::.::: I 0> 0> co co oI oI coro coro I' 0> 0> I E ro .0:£ro (5 o Q) IJJ Q) ro IJJ ..c m CL ..s::: o CL (U U; ai N '35 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written AnSW8lS 196 Public Grievances Cells In Mlnlatrlesl state: Departments (a) whether language-wise allocation 8509. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. has bean made for the development of re- BHOSALE: Will the PRIME MINISTER be gional languages for the current financial pleased to state: year; (a) whether Public Grievances cells have (b) if so, the amount allocatecUor the been opened in each MinistrylOepartment of development of different regional languages; Union Government; and (b) if so, whether any periodical review (c) the details of steps proposed to be of these cells has been made: taken to develop Oriya language? (c) if so, the outcome thereof: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (d) whether Government propose to VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI make some improvements in the functioning MEHTA): (a) and (b). The budgetary alloca- of these cells to ensure that they are result- tion for language development programmes onented: and for the current financial year is Rs. 2' .23 crores. The language-wise allocation has (e) if so, the details thereof? not been made. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- (c) The development and promotion of WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. regional languages is primarily the concern of the State Governments. However, the (b) and (c). While these cells are ex- Ministry of Human Resourc;e Development pected to work within the administrative has been executing varIOus programmes for control of the concerned Ministry or Depart- the development ~nd promotion of regional ment, as the case maybe. the De;>artment of languages including Oriya directly and Administrative Reforms and Public Griev- through the institution set up by it. Among ances penodlCally reviews their general others. these include the following; working In consultation With the concerned of~lcers. (i) Financial assistance to voluntary organisations as weli as individu- (d) and (e). Improving the effic~ ~ in als for bringing out publications in the funettonlng of these cells has b.: en a India languages. continuous effort. The Department of Ad- ministrative Reforms and Public Grievances (ii) Financial assistance to voluntary al~() Issues guidelines and tenders advice orgaf"izations for promotIOnal ac- p(,nodlcally to the Ministries and Depart- tivities in various modern !ndian lTlents languages. Ji.!location of Funds for Development of (iii) Disfribution of books in Indian lan- RegionlJl Languages guages to libraries and eclucationClt Il'1stitutlons (free of cost). g'ji r) SHRI GOt-'1 tJ4Tti ,,=,.1..)APATHI II'".j: :;,(, :'RlfVlE tA~j·: ,[ r E C, h", ColfHbk...a to (IV) Financial assistance ,0 States and 137 Written AnsW91S VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answ9IS 138 universities for preparation and to state: production of university level text- books in Indian languages. (a) the names of universities in Mahar- ashtra which are the recipients of grants (v) Training of Oriya language teach- being released by University Grants Com- ers at the Eastern Regional Lan- mission and the extent thereof; guage Centre (ERLC) of fhe Cen-- frat Institute of Indian Languages, (b) the extent of the grants likely to be at Bhubaneswar. released by UGC to the universities of Maharashtra; (vi) Publication of Hindi-Oriya and Oriya-Hind~ dictionaries by the (c) the names of the colleges in back- Central Hindi Directorate (CHD), a ward areas of Maharashtra to whom grant is subordinate Office of Department being given or likely to be given by the of Education_ University Grants Commission; and (vii) Awards to creative writers in differ- (d) the details thereof? ent Indian languages including Oriya by the Sahitya Akademi_ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Grants of U.G.C. for Universities in MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Maharashtra VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a) and (b). The details of the grant 8511. SHRI S.B. THORAT: allocated and released by the University SHRI A.A. ANTULAY: Grants Commission to the Universities in Maharashtra during the Vllth Plan period are Wi" the PRIME MINISTER be pleased as follows: Rs. in lakhs S. No. University "Total allocation Grants released for 7th Plan (upto 28.2.90) ,. S.N.D.T. Women's University, Bombay. 197.19 86.04 2 Shivaji University, Kolhapur 176.81 110.82 3. University of Poona, Pune. 204.75 112.32 4. Nagpur University, Nagpur. 190.95 128.76 5. Marathwad~ University, 125.00 80.87 Aurangabad. 6. UniverSIty of Bombay 251.97 152.03 Bombay (c) and (d) According to the norms pre- in these districts have been provided assis- scribed by the University Grants Commis- tace by the Commission during the 7th Plan SIon, there are 8 'educationally backward period as per details given in the statement dIstricts in Maharashtra According to the given below. mf0rmation iurnlstled by U_G C .. .t8 colleges 139 MAY 14,1990 Wttt.M AnStMtIS 140 ...!.. ...!.. 0 c5 0 ~ 2; 0 ;:, ~ 0 i:, ..... 0 0 co 0 0 0 II) 0 ,.... l ~ 0 ~ 0> II) "0- Il) N ~ N II') II') ...£ ~- en M C") .I 0 co 0 co ,.... - t- o I/) ~ " -0 -0 Q) III Q) III m m U 'C .g en en 0 i::5 ai oi C'l C'l J!! ~ 0 -0 (.) (.) Q) i Q) u "0 ~ ~ Q) "i (ij t- CD "0 Qj :» c( m CD -0 m E E J- CD Qj E m GI (1)- E 0 en ,g m C'l 0 (.) -0 (.) 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Y.S RAJASEKHARREDDY: 5%. a supersonic two-seater military trairnng Will the MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND aircraft; FORESTS be pleased to state: (8) whether Kanha National park has (b) if so, the details thereof together with been occupied by Naxalrtes and ravaged by the approximate cost of the same; fire recently; (b) if so, the extent of damage done to (c) the main features of the discussions the Park; and held with the Deputy Assistant Secretary for (c) the remedial measures taken by aerospace in the U.S Department of Com- Government In this regard? merce during hiS recent visit to this country; and THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI (d) the total amount of exports of the ROUTRAY)· (a) and (b) Kanha National U.S "aerospace firm to India dunng the last Park has not been occupied by naxalrtes but two years? some naxahtes are reported to have entered the Kanha National park They have also THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE beaten up one forester and a forest guard MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA Inside the park besides intimidation of some RAMANNA): (a) Yes, Sir. staff According to State Government about 45% of the forest area has been affected by (b) h rs not In the national securrty Inter- ground fires In which grasses, small plants est to spell out further details. and dry fallen matenal have been burnt No deaths of major mammals have been re- (c) The diSCUSSion centered around ported as a result of fire However, one gaur scope for expansion of the areas of coopera- has died clUe to Potassium CYlnrde poison- tion between India and USA especially an the Ing. Damage from fires to small mammals, aerospace held reptiles, ground nesting birds and Inverte- brates must have occurred causing atleast (d) In so far as IAF IS concerned, con- temfXlrary set back to the biodiversity and tracts worth U.S $75 0 lakh approximately ecosystem conservatIOn were entered Into with U.S. aerospace firms (c) The State Government has rnformed In the last two years. that followrng steps have been taken to prevent damage to the Kanha Natronal Park· I.I.T. in Punjab (I) Some patrolhg partIes consisting of forest staff and armed pohce Wilt do 8514. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will rntenslve patrolling of the Park the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state. (II) Pohce Officers have been directed by the State Government to flush (a) whether Government have con- out all naxahtes ducted any study or survey for openrng an (II) A commrttee of high offiCials WIll Indian Instrtute of Technology In Punjab to tour bordering vtllages to rectrfy meet the rising need for technICal personnel; grrevances of Villagers and forest staff (b) If so, the detarls of steps taken or proposed to be taken rn this regard; and u.s. Help In Manufacturing a super- (c) if not, the reasons therefor, sonic TVI.'o-seater Military training Aircraft THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- 8513 SHRI KAMAL NATH. Will the VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state· MEHTA): (a) No, Sir. 151 Written AnsW91S MAY 14,1990 WrilMn AnsW91S 152 (b) Does not arise. ties and Art Treasures Act, 1972. (b) Except for the Indian Institute of Bank on Cosmetlc8 using Animal Fat. Technology in Assam which is being estab- lished as per the U Assam Accord-, there is no 8517. SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA: Will proposal to set up any other Indian Institute the MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND of Technology elsewhere in the country. FORESTS be pleased to state: Export of Indian Antiques (a) the number of cosmetics manufac- turing companies using animal fats for the 8516. SHRIMATI SUKHBUNS KAUR: manufacture of cosmetics in the country; Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) whether Government propose to ban tha manufacture of Cosmetics using animal (a) whether pieces of antiques of Indian fats throughout the country to justify preven- heritage, are being exported: tion of cruelty to animals; and (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) the number of Associations/Socie- ties working in the country under the banner Cc) the categories of items on which "Prevention of Cruelty to animals-? there is a ban? THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRt NILAMANI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ROUTRAY): (a) and Cb). None of the Units MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- borne on the list of Directorate General of VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI Technical Development are reporting con- MEHTA): (a) No, Sir. sumption of animal fats for the manufacture of cosmetics. (b) Does not arise. (c) A list or organisations working for (c) Export of antiquities and art treas- Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is given in ures is regulated by provisions of the Antiqui- attached Statement. 153 Written AnSWB~ VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Wnlt.n AnsWBIS 154 c: :> cl:s Jg E 0 0) ; co 0 a:J "C :3 c: C") "'0 c: >- CJ) C") 0 a:J iii L() (.!J Z Q._ II: -0 5- co ro (j) IV 0) ..c: "'0 ~ N (f') ..t ll"i to r-.: (is 155 Written Answers MAY 14.1990 WrinMAM...,. 158 o..l- eu .&: as .&: (ij c:: 1: ! .&: 16 ~ tV "i :::::I Q.. eu i oS' ~ tV It) C) ~ C) i <.) c:: E N :::::I l! :E ~ .&: a: i U) "iii 8 ~ 01:: !C? ~ c:: .n ~ -< Q. 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SHRI PYARELAl KHAN DEL- YADAV: Will the PRIME MINISTER be WAl: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased pleased to state: to state: (a) the details of items relating to Cen- (a) whether Bhojpur. Sitamagarhi. tral Government employees pending with Rohtas and Jhanlharpur districts of Bihar are the National Council of Joint Consultative bemg covered under Anganwadi Pro- Machinery and since when; gramme: (b) when decision is likely to be taken thereon? (b) If so, the time by which the said development Programme IS likely to be Intro- THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- duced In these districts: and WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) A State- ment of items pending with the National (c) If not, the reasons tnerefor? Council of Joint Consultative Machinery and Compulsory Arbitration for Central Govern- ment employees indicating the dates since THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE when these items are pending is given be- DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN AND CHILD low. DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRIMATI USHA SINHA): (a) (b) The National council of the JCM is a Yes, Sir. Some ot the blocks ot these districts forum where Staff representatives Of the are covered under the ICDS Scheme. Central Government make specific propos- als relating to improvement of conditions of servICe, staff weHare etc. for consideration (b) Since the Integrated Child Develop- by the Government. proposals of general ment ServICes: (ICDS) Programme IS ex- nature Involving change of policy in these panding In a phased manner, the introduc- areas are also made. The Official Side have tIOn of the programme In the remaining blocks continuous dialogue wrth the Staff Side of these distrICts shall be collsldered specially in regard to proposals of general alongwith other blocks of the State keeping nature. until an agreement or disagreement In vlewthe availability of resources ad claims IS reached in those matters. While decisions of other deserving oIocks In the country. on specific proposals are taken early. deCI- sions on general proposals are not capable (c) Question does not arise of being subjected to a tim~ limit. 179 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Writt." AnsW6IS 180 ,r ~ ...... CI) CI) CI) ...... CI) CI) CI) C7I CI) C7I 0) CI) ...... 0) Q) co Q) Q) i Q) C7I en 0) ...... - ..- ~ ..... i li 0; 0 «I ~ ..- cO >. a.i cO C) c:: ~ i ~ ex) ai "5 ai ai ~ C\I .., ..0 4l ..., CII < U- ti_)'S ,~ "I e: ,.._ 13 enCO § C":! Ul 8 Iii C CII c: CII M >. 0 "€ CII .Q ~ 'iii CII E 0.. -.~ c: :2 n; E GI en (ij ~ CII 0- ~ ,S .D ~ f/) c: ~ ...; N C") ..j- &ri cD ex) US " 181 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 182 CD CD CD CD CD ..... m CDm m CD CD CX) CD CD ...... - ..... '"m '"m '"Ol '"m en fc::: (') ..... ,.- d .....d d cD cD cD oj oj f oj oj ex) m m ai m 0; III N N N ~ c:: 0 en E GI E 1:: ~ as "0 0 0.. en GI iiien C c:: GI E ~ 0.. GI E GI E E E £: 0 c:: >. (.) 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Bangalorethat he may Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to be considered for promotion under the Bye- state: law 71 (b) (ii) with all consequential benefits. The Supreme Court. however, did not agree (a) whether less number of schemes with the views of CAT on the scope of this have been sanctioned dUring the last three Bye-law. years for Bihar State In comparison to the number of schemes sanctioned to other (b) CSIR has instructed Central Food States: i;. 1d if so. the reasons thereof· and Technological Research Institute (CFTRI), under whom Shri Bhatt is working, to give (b) the number of schemas sanctioned him the relief awarded by CAT. or likely to be sanctioned for Bihar dUring the current financial yeilr? (c) Does not arise. Establishment of a Central UniversHy in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Nagaland MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- 8522. SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU: GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to BHAGEY GOBARDHAN)· (a) Planning state: Commission does not give scheme wise sanctions for the Annual Plans of the States. (a) whether Government have an- nounced two years ago to establish a Cen- (b) Does not arise tral University In Nagaland; [English] (b) If so, whether a Committee was constituted for the purpose; Supreme Court Judgement in CSIR V'S K_G.S. Bhatt case (c) the amount sanctioned so far: 8521. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA· (d) whether the Committee has submit- Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to ted Its report; and state: (e) if so, by when it is likely to be estab- lished? (a) whether the Supreme Court has up- held the right to promotion in the case of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE C.S.I.R. vis K.G.S Bhatt on 29 8 89: MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a) to (e). An announcement re- (b) if so, the steps taken to Implement garding establishment of a Central Univer- the decision of the Supreme Court; and sity in Nagaland was made in 1987. On the request of this Department. a detailed Proj- (c) rf not, thp rpa~ons for delay? ect Report for setting up the University was 193 Wrmen Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Wrmen Answers 194 prepared by EducatIOnal Consultants India trated nuclear wastes, multiple barner ap- Ltd., a Government of India EnterprISe. proach IS adopted, whICh Involves conditIOn- Legislation to establish the Nagaland Uni- Ing t9 convert It Into a suitable solid form. versity has also been enacted packaging In a proper container and em- placement In engineered structures such as According to the Information furnished RCC Trenches, Tile Holes or Vaults Within by the University Grants CommiSSIOn, the the controlled zone of the nuclear facilities. Commission has made a tentative prOVISion of Rs 2 crores for new Central UniVersities, (b) The disposal of nuclear waste In INCLUDING Nagaland Umverslty, In their India IS earned out as per the guidelines. Plan for 1990-91 The estimated reqUire- rules and stipulatIOns prescribed by the ment for the establishment of Nagaland AtomIC Energy Regulatory Board (AERB) University IS Rs 61 34 crores In view of the which are In conformity with the general overall constraint of resources It has not recommendations ofthe InternatIOnal AtomIC been poSSible to undertake necessary Energy Agency of which IndIa IS a member measures for making the University opera- tional (c) No, Sir There have been no Viola- tions of the safety rules In the disposal of Nuclear Waste Management nuclear waste by the eXisting nuclear plants These are being re"lewed by Safety Com- 8523 SHRI M M PALLAM RAJU Will mIttees of AERB the PRIME MINISTER oe pleased to state (d) Not applicable In view of the answer (a) the details of nuclear waste disposal to question (c) above methods/measures currently followed by the Government Nehru Yuva Kendras in Maharashtra (b) the names of the International and 8524 SHRI VASANT SATHE WIll the natIOnal bodies that set the gUidelines and PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state ensure proper disposal of Nuclear waste (a) the number of Nehru Yuva Kendras (c) whether there have been any Viola- In Maharashtra. tion of safety rules by the eXlstmg nuclear plants and (b) review of the work done by these kendras so far? (d) If so the details thereof? (c) the amount allocated and utilised by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE these kendras In Maharashtra dUring the last MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- three years, year-wIse and OGY (PROF M G K MENON) (a) The current methods/measures for disposal of (d) the allocatIOn proposed to be made nuclear waste are aimed at concentrating for these kendras for 1990-91 for Maharash- and containing as much radioactIVIty as tra? poSSible and restricting the dIscharges to the envIronment to levels much below the pre- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SCribed limits In hne With the InternatIOnal MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- prinCiple of ALARA (As Low As Reasonably VELOPMENT {SHRI CHIMANBHAI Achievable) For the containment of concen- MEHT A) (a) 22 1 g5 Writtsn AnswelS MAY 14.1990 Written AnsMHS 196 (b) No review work of the NYKs in of the scheme itself and the programmes of Maharashtra has been done. However. it NYKs in general. undertaken by the Plan- has been decided to have a quick evaluation ning Commission. (c) Year Funds Releassd 3.67lakhs 2.501akhs 50.701akhs 39.521akhs 1989-90 27.791akhs As the year 1989-90 has just ended, it will taken some time to collect the information for that year. (d) Rs. 55 lakhs. (Bs. in lakhs) Projects of National Book Trust Assamese 2.04 8525. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will the Bengali 4.29 PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Englis,", 5.68 (a) of whether National Book Trust is havil'l9 huge stocks of unsold books for the Gujarati 1.80 last many years: Hindi 1.91 (b) if so, the detaIls of such unsold stock for over three years and its value: Kannada 0.47 (c) the action taken in this regarei; and Malayalam 0.1S (d) the detaIls of important projects of Marathi 4.57 the National Book Trust dunng 1990-91? Oriya O.OS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Punjabi 1.33 VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a) No, Sir. The stocks of unsold Tamil 2.57 books cannot be described as "huge- for a publishing concern the size of NBT, which Telugu 1.41 had a turnover of .more than Rs. 2 erores in 1989-90. Urdu 1.68 (b) The language-wise value of books Total 2S.01 over three years old (published in 1986 and before) is given below: (c) Through improvements in organisa- 197 Written AnsWBIS VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Written AnsWBIS 198 tion and marketing the Trust was able to city forests are flouting rules regarding their increase sale of its publications in 1988-89 to maintenance due to indifference and bad Rs. 120.31 lakhs from the annual average of management by the concerned authorities; around As. 17.50 lakhs only. During the year and 1989-90 the sale exceeded Rs. 200 lakhs. (b) if so, the corrective action taken in (d) Some of the importan1 projects of the this regard? Trust forthe financial year 1990-91 are listed below: THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI (1 ) Publication of books in the various ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). Delhi Administra- series of the Trust and ~n d1fferent tion have reported that they are not aware of languages. steady degradation of forests in Delhi. espe- cially Hauz Khas. However, the AdmiAistra- (2) Organisation of book fairslfestivals. tion has taken certain steps for protection of trees and upkeep of greenery of Hauz Khas (3) Organisation of National Book area. These include:- Week in November, 1990 (1) Replacement of existing damaged (4) Production of a newsletter to pro- barbed wire fencing by Boundary mote the Readers' Club movement walllGrill fencing. in schools and colleges. (2) Provision of six tube wells to meet (5) Organisation ot seminars and work- the shortage of water supply. shops. (3) Making the staff more vigilant for (6) Implementation of scheme to pro- better upkeep of forests. vide financial assistance to private publishers ad voluntary agencies , Clearance to Diesel based power plant for the publication of books for chil- in Kamataka dren and neo-literates. 8527 SHRIJANARDHANAPOOJARY: P"b'·,' 'o'lofa' l,eotselect IN'" Or ·"-..1E MINISTER be pleased to ,~.-,'" .I,ildr&f I ~,v_9ht out In Hindi, English and other Indian languages. (a) whether the Planning Commission has given clearance to a diesel based power Degradation of Forest area near Hauz planfnear Yelahanka in Karnataka; if so, the Khas. New Delhi details thereof? 8526, SHRI P.A. ANTONY: Will the (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (c) the time since when the project is pending clearance? (a) whether Government are aware that the city iorests in Delhi. especially the Hauz THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Khas city forest, are being steadily degraded MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI BHAGEY and even destroyed or the visitors to such GOBARDHAN): (a) Yes, Sir. The-project for , 199 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 200 Instal1atlOn of 120 MW Diesel Engine Power 1989-90- Rs. 124 44 lakhs Pla'lt at Velahanka had been approved for an estimated cost of Rs 122 03 crores In [English] December. 1988 Social Forestry Programme In Drought (b) and (c) 00 not anse prone areas [ Trans/atlOn I 8529 SHRI M G REDDY' Will the Mlntsterof ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS -Nehru Yuva Kendras in U.P. be pleased to state 8528 SHRI SHED SHARAN VERMA (a) whether any targets were set up for Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Social Forestry Programme In Drought Prone state District of Rayalaseema In Andhra Pradesh dUring the Seventh Five Year Plan. (a) the number of Nehru Yuva Kendras (b) If SOr the details thereof. and In Uttar Prade~h and (c) the targets for Social Forestry Pro· (b) the amount allocated to these Ken- gramme ftxed for the Etghth Five Year Plan dras In Uttar Pradesh dUring 1988-89 and for Ravalaseema Dlstrtct? 1989-90? THE MINISTER OF" ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI THE MINISTER OF STA TEi IN THE ROUTRAY) (a) and (b) The details of SOCIal MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Forestry Programme In respect of the drought VELOPMENT (SHAI CHIMANBHAI prone dlstncts of Cuddapah, Kurnool, Chi· MEHTA) (a) 56 toor and Anantapur of RaY81aseema region In Andhra Prade~., durtng tne Seventh Five (b) 1988-89- Rs 141 741akhs year Plan pened are given below PhYSical Financial Rs In Crores Area,n ha Seedlings In lakh Nos TARGETS 15650 740 2040 ACHIEVEMENTS 14040 685 1630 (c) The details of EIghth Five Year PIS" (a) whether the NatIOnal Waste Man- have not been finalised agement Council has set up sub-groups to work on methods tor the effectIVe utilisatIOn National Waste Management Council of wastes, and 8530 SHRI YASHWANTRAD PATIL (b) If so, the deta!ls thersot and modus Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND operand. suggested for mlnlm.sslng pollu- FORESTS be pleased to st,Jte tion caused by wastes~ 201 Written Answers VAISP.KHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Wrinsn Answers 202 THE MIN1STER OF ENVIRONMENT Public eector Industrle. manufacturing AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI Aerospace products ROUTAAY): (a) and (b) The NatIOnal Waste Management Council has set up three sub- 8532. SHRI MUlLAPPAllY RAMA- groups namely (a) Urban and MunICipal CHANDRAN: WIll the PRIME MINISTER be Waste Management, (b) Industnal Waste pleased to state the names of PublIC Sector Management, and (c) Rural Waste Manage- Units manufactUring aVIatIOn/aerospace ment for the effectIve utIlisatIon of wastes. products In the country? These sub-groups will (I) IdentIfy the wastes; (II) suggest technologIcal alternatIves for- THE MINISTER OF ~TATE THE MIN- reductIon, -recycllng,-reuse, -research; ISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA (III) determine categones of areas where RAMANNA): Under the MinIstry of Defence, specifIC measures Will be needed, and (IV) apart from MIs Hlndustan AeronautICS LIm- formulate actIon points as a baSIS for execu- Ited. ,WhICh IS the primary manufacturer of tIve orders to be Issued by Government aVIatIon /aerospace products, the other Including legislation taxes and IncentIVes Public Sector Undertakmgs manufadunng such products are Bharat ElectronICS lIm- West Zone Cultural Centre and its Ited, Bharat DynamICS LImited and MlShra progress Dhatuy NIgam lImited 853~ SHRI KAILASH MEGHWAL Will [Trans/atlOn] the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state CBI Raids (a) details of the progress of work In West Zone Cultural Centre, UdaIpur dUring 8533 SHRI HUKUDEO NARAYAN the last 3 years YADAV wIn the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state (b) the number of performIng artIsts on (a) the number of Government employ- Its rolls and the strength of other staff em- ees and pIIIVate persons separately whose ployed by thiS Centre, mOr'ey spent on the houses were raided by the Central Bureau of salary bIlls separately for the two categories Investgatlon (CBn dUring last three years, yearwlse for the last 3 years year-wIse, (c) whether the Centre has made any (b) the numberof Government employes capItal expenditure on bUIldIngs, equlpments and prrvate persons out of them agaInst etc, If so, the detaIls thereof and whom cases were fIled; and (9) how the affaIrs of the Centre are (9) the number of Government employ- managed and deciSIons taken? ees and prrvate persons against whom cases have not been registered and the reason, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE therefor, MINISTRY O~ HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENI (SHRI CHIMANBHAI THEPRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- MEHTA). (a) to (d) The InformatIOn IS beIng WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) to (c) Infor- collected and Will be placed before the lok matron IS bell1g collected and will be lard on. Sabha as early as possIble the Table of the House MAY 14,1990 Pending Cue. of CBI against Govern- months of 1990. ment 0ffIcta1a ScMrM to Bridge Gap IMN .... RIch 8534. SHRI HUKUMOEO NAMYAN and Poor YADAV : Wall the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: 8536. SHRISANTOSH KUMAR GANG- WAR: Willth. PRIME MINISTER be pleased (a> whether 8 large number of cases to state: pending for disposal with C.B.!.; (8) whether any scheme is under con- (b) If so, the number of such cases sideration to bridge the gap between rich pending for action against Government offi- al')d poor in the country; and CIals and others; and (b) If so, the details thereof and by what (C) the actIOn proposed by Govemment time it IS likely to be implemented? for expeditIOus dIsposal of these cases? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINlSmv OF PLANNING AND MINISTER THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- OF STATE IN THE MltflSmV OF PRO- WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a)to(c).lnfor- GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI matlOn IS being collected and will be latd on BHAGEV GOBARDHAN); (a) and (b). Bridg- the Table of the House Ing the gap between rich and poor will be an Important objectIVe of the EIghth Plan, the CBI Enquiry against Public Servants approach to which is being flnahsed. GiVIng very htgh pnority to employment generatIOn, shifting allocatIOn of investable resources In 8535 SHRI PRAKASH KOKO favour of the rural areas and backward re- BRAHMBHAIT WIll the PRIME MINISTER gIOns will be the majOr thrusts of the Eighth be pleased to state Plan. In addition, the steps to be taken in this regard are expected to Include, among oth- {a> the number of cases In whICh eBI ers, a sustained and multiprolonged drive· has initIated enquIry agaInst publIC servants agaInst proliferatIOn of black money, rn"Odifl- dUring the first three months of 1990; and catIOn of Act on 'Benami' transactIOns and effectIVe tax adrrllntstration. (b) the number of cases whICh were enquIred Into by eSI and Investtgatlons [English] completed and the number of persons pe- nahsed? Equal Pay for equal work scheme In Deihl Untverslty THEPRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- 8537. PROF. SAV1TfIRI LAKSH- WANATHPRATAPSINGH) (a)210cases MANAN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to stale: (b) Durlll9 tlie same above penod CBI enquired Into 1496 cases Including those pendIng from prevIOus years. Investtgatlons (a) whether by abolishing dual emolu- In 165 cases were finalised. In all 130 public ments scheme, the Govemment propose to servants were penalised dUring the first three adopt the rule of equal pay for equal work in 205 W,itt." Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSwelS 206 Delhi University as demanded by OUTA; proposed allocation of central assistance? and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof? MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY-OF PRO- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): (a) The State VELOPMENT {SHRI CHIMANBHAI Government had classified, based on the MEHTA): (a) and (b). The Scheme of revi- criterion of per capita income. Midnapur sion of pay scales provides an option to district as economically and industrially existing teachers to remam under the Merit backward possessing the minimum infras- Promotion Scheme, 1983 but with lower tructural facilities essential for industrial scales of pay. According to the option, if a development. teacher wishes to avail of the benefits of promotion under the old scheme then he (b) Specific programmes for the devel- forgoes the benefns of enhanced pay scales opment of a district in a State are formulated under the revised scheme. Similarly, if he by the concerned State Government.. opts for the revised pay scales and the new scheme of promotion. then he forgoes the (ci Does not arise. benefits under the old Merit Promotion Scheme. It is the teacher who has to exer- I Translation] cise the voluntary option. As the scheme of revision of pay scales is applicable to univer- Action against firms which supplied sities/colleges all over the country, there is substandard Goods no proposal to, make a separate provision for teachers in Delhi Un Iversity to allow them the 8539. SHRI HUKUMDEO NARAYAN benefits of promotion under the Merit Pro- YADAV: Wi" the PRIME MINISTER be motion $cheme. 1983 as well·as enhanced pleased to refer to the repty given on 16th scales of pay under the new scheme. April,. 1990 to unstarred question No. 4961 regarding gocxls suppliers and state: Midnapur as backward Area (a) the reasons for not registering crimi- 8538. SHRIINDRAJITGUPTA: Will the nal cases against the firms found guilty of PRIME MIN ISTER be pleased to refer to the supplying sub-standard goods when such reply given on 9 April. 1990 to SO No. 373 action is taken even in ordinary business regarding central assistance for deveiop- cases: and ment of backward areas and state: (b) the value of the contract for supply of (a) the criteria under whICh Midnapur goods placed on these firms and the loss district in West Bengal has been identified as suffered due to supply of sub-standard a backward area: goods? (b) whether any specific programmes THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have been formulated to remove such back- MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA wardness in consultation with the State RAMANNA): (a) Supply of stores not con- Government; and forming to the specifications does not pso- facto constitute a criminal offence. On con- (c) it so, the details thereof, including sideration of the facts and the circumstances 207 Written Answers MAY 14.1990 Writt." Answers 208 of the cases. an FIR was lodged against one (English) of the fIVe firms under SectIOn 420/468/471 of the Indian Penal Code The case IS sub- Acquisition of aalUetlc ...... by JudICe Paklatan (b) The requisite InformatIOn IS being 8541 SHAI B.N. REOOY: collected SHRI HARISH RAWAT: SHRI SARJlJ PRASAD SA- Supply 01 Sub-Standard Goods ROJ: 8540 SHRI HUKUMDEO NARAYAN Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased YAOAV Will the PR'ME MINISTER be to state· pleased to refer to the reply gIVen on 16 Apnl. 1990 to Unstarred QUE>st'on No 4962 re- (a) whether Government are aware of garding supply of sub-standard goods and the reported move of China to sell Its baillsttc state mISSiles to Pakistan (a) the value of goods In rupees for the (b) whether thiS new medium range supply of whICh orders were placed to those mISSile of nearly 800 kms range could be firms and stipulated tIme-frame thereof used to penetrate Into India and tt,rash India In war as has been reported by the sources (b) the reasons tor not regIstering CrimI- of US Defence Industry. and nal cases agaInst those firms for supplytng sub-standard goods and gUilty of fraud, (c) If so, the remedial measures pro- cheating and breach of trust and posed to be taken by Government In thiS regard to meet any eventuality of war? (c) whether any high level enqUiry IS proposed to be conducted to ?scertaln about THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE collUSIOn of departmental offICers With these MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA f,rms? RAMANNA) (a) and (b) Government have see.,. media reports on thiS matter So far THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE there IS no confirmed InformatIOn that ChIna MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA IS proposing to sell such missiles to Paki- RAMANNA) ,a) The total value of the orders stan placed on the 86 firms IS approxImately Rs 18 58 crores The stipulated tlme-trame for (c) Govemment take 1"'0 consideratIOn supply ranges between January 1986 and all developments ImPInging on our security December 1989 and continually update plans to maintain full defence preparedness (b) The supply of stores not conforming to specrflCattOns are liable to be reJ8Cled In terms of contract Tilts does not Ipso-facto ae.ldentlal Accommodation tor const(aute a Criminal offence Defence Officer. and other RankS (c) Enqulnes have been ordered In 33 8542 SHAt YASHWANTAAO PATIl. cases I",the remaining cases. prehmlnary Will the PRIME MINISTE~ be pleased to Investigation have been ordered state. 209 Written AnSWlH'S VAISAKHA24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSwefS 210 (a) whether there is a shortage of resi- VidyaJaya Sangathan in North India; dential accommodation for married Defence Service officers and other ranks in Delhi; (b) jf so, the proposed location thereof; (b) if so, the details thereof;, (c) whether some proposals to open a regional office in Bareilly (Uttar Pradesh) (c) the number of private hired accom- have been received from local representa- modation for married officers and others; tives; and and Cd) if so, when such an office is likely to (d) the measures contemplated to solve be opened there? the problem? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI RAMANNA): (a) Yes, Sir. MEHTA): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, a proposal has been under examination for opening a (b) Shortage is as under:- Regional Office in Bare illy , Uttar Pradesh. (i) Officers 2254 Units (c) Yes, Sir. (ii) JCOIORs 5647 Units (d) No decision has been taken on opening new regional offices. (c) No, of houses hired are as un- der'- Opening of engineering College in Meerut (i) Officers 1725 Units 8544. SHRI HARISH PAL: Will the (ii) JCO/ORs 856 Units PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (d) Efforts are made to hire private tal whether a proposal to open a college houses. Service officers are permitted to live of Engineering and Technology in Meerut is In private houses on rent reimbursement under consideration of Union Government; basis. JCOsIORs are given Cila (compen- and sation in lieu of quarters). New construction is planned subject to availability of funds. (b) if so, the details thereof? [ Translation J THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Regional Offices of Kendrlya Vidyalaya VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI Sangathan MEHTA): (a) and (b). Yes,Sir. The State Government was requested to confirm the 8543. SHRISANTOSHKUMARGANG- availability of funds for the proposed college. WAR: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased It is understood that the matter is under to state: consideration of the State Government. The proposal will be examined further by the (a) whether there IS any proposal to Unton Government on receipt of confirma- open some regional offices of Kendriya tion from the Govt. of U.P_ 211 Wnlten AnsW815 MAY 14,1990 Wntt.n~ 212 [English) (2) Alai DatwazL PN.enratlon of Hlelatlcal ~ (3) TughIuq's Fort. In Deihl (4) Zafar Mahal. 8545. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR MALHOTRA: WiN the PRIME MINISTER be (6) Madhi Masjid. pleased to stale: (6) Wazirpur-Ka-Gumbad. (a) whether Government are aware that many historical monuments in Delhi are in (7) 8ijai-Mandal. damaged condition; (8) Katla Mubarak Shah's Tomb. (b) if so, the details of such monuments. the reasons of their damaged position; (9) Begampurl-Masjid. (c) the remedial measures being taken (10) Dadl-Poti. for the safety of such monuments: (11) Bara Khamba. (d) whether Government have con- ducted any survey of the monuments to (12) Bastion at Purana Quita. assess the extent of damages to the monu- ments; (13) Humayun's Tomb. (e) if so, when; and (14) Neela Gumbad. (t) any action plan has been carried out (15) Lakharwala-Burj. for the purpose? (16) Sundarwala-Mahal. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (17) Moti Masjid at Red fort. VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a> to (1). No. Sir. The ancient and (18) Hammam at Red Fan. hIstorical monuments under protection of the Central Government are being preserved (19) Mumtaz Mahal at Red Fon. and maintained by the Archaeotogical Sur- veyof India (ASI) in the condition as existing at the time of taken over the central protec- (20) Kotla Feroz Shah. tion. Periodic inspections are undenaken to assess requirements of cxms.ervation and (21 ) Badli Sarai. preservation and necessary repairs are carried out. A Statement of protected mon,,!- (22) Tripolia Gateway. ments identified and included in Conserva- tion Programme for 1990-91 IS given below. (23) Chauburji-Uasjid. STATEMENT (24) Shish Mahal. (1) Sultan Ghari's Tomb. (25) Red Fort. 213 WriItsn AnswelS VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 214 (26) Outb Minar. for setting up of electronic assembling units; [ Translation] (b) if so, the details thereof; and s... ry and other facilities to AIr Force (c) if not, the afternative arrangements cant.. n Employ... proposed to be made this year for setting up of electronic industries in such areas? 8546. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND =TECHNOl- (a) whether the Gujarat High Court in its OGY (PROF. M.G.K.MENON); (a) to (c). As decision in the special civil petition No. 1544 perGovemment Notifications, some sectors of 1987 observed that the employees of Air of industries, including some of electronics, Force Canteens should be treated as indus- are exempted from the provisions of Licens- trial workers and entitled to salary, allow~ ing, for Non--MRTPlNon-FERA Companies ances. bonus, medical and l TC facilities as subject to certain limits on investment and available under the labour laws; import content, provided these are set up beyond a certain distance from the boundary (b) if so, whether the employees of Air of the standard urban areas of specified Force Canteens in Nasik, Ojhar and Avadi cities. However, there is no general policy (Madras) are being given salary and other banning establishment of large and medium facilities as per observations of tre Gujarat industries in any specified areas, Promo- High Court: and tional efforts are made to ensure the estab- lishment of electronic industries in areas (c) if not, the reasons therefor? where energy availability and the natural resource base is such that most other indus- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tries would not be suitable. MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA RAMANNA): (a) No SIr. The GUJarat High [Eng~ish] Court had given a direction to Assistant labour Commissioner (Central) to refer the Agricultural Credit Scheme dispute between the contesting parties to the appropriate authorrty under the Industrial 8548. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJ: Dispute Act 1947 for its resolution. SHRIMA n BASAVA RAJES- WARI: (b) Does not arise. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased (c) Does not anse. to state: Electronic Assembling Units in Re- (a) whether the Planning Commission served Areas has recommended for the agricultural credit scheme in the current Annual Plan: 8547. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) if so, the amount allocated/proposed to Kamataka under the scheme: (a) whether there is any proposal tq declare those areas where large and me- (c) the modus operandi of disbursement dium industries cannot be set up as reserved of the credit; and 215 Written AnS_1S MAY 14.1990 Wnlten AnswelS 216 (d) to what extent, this will be helpful to and timely disbursement of credit by coop- agricultural sector? eratives institutions to the farmers. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Plantation of PartIcular Specie. of MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER Tr... OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI 9550. SHRI P.A. ANTONY' Will the BHAGEY GOBAROHAN): (a> There IS no Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS sIngle Agricultural Credit Scheme as such of be pleased to state: the Govemment of India. However. a num- ber of plan schemes are operated by the (a) whether Government propose to Central Govemment as CentrallCentra'ly plant particular species of trees In the CUlti- Sponsored Schemes for assIsting and vated fields to absorb the tOXIC elements strengthemng Cooperative credIt structure contained In the laVishly used fertilisers and In the country. A comprehenSIVe Crop Insur- pestICides. and ance Scheme IS also under operation for assistIng farmers In the case of crop failure (b) whether Government propose to on account of natural calamities plant such trees systematICally and on large scale along the banks of the rivers In the (b) Under the Karnataka State Plan country for natural purrflCallon of the water, If 1990-91, the agreed outlay tor relevant so, the details thereof? schemes IS as follows THE MINISTER FOR ENVIRONMENT (I) Investment In Agricultural Finan- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI CIal 'nstlt utlOns As 516 lakhs AOUTRAY): (a) No, Sir, Tree planting on CUltivated fields depends mainly on the choICe (II) Cooperation-As 940 lakhs oul of of the cultIVators whICh Rs 250 3 lakhs IS for assIs- tance to Credit Cooperatives (b) Trees along the fiver banks help In controlling sal' erosion and Improving the (c) As far as central assistance to the enVironment, Including water However, States IS concerned, no definite allocatIOn planting of trees on the river banks has to be for each State IS made In advance However, on the baSIS of the site conditions, keeping In the funds are released after assessing the view f actors like topography, availability of Justified demand of each State The diS- suitable land, Incidence of floods, etc A bursement of funds In respect of the plan large scale programme of tree planting on schemes IS generally made through the the river banks all over the country has not respectJve State Governments The disburse- been taken up ment for the ComprehenSive Crop Insur- ance scheme IS however made through the General Insurance Corpn of India (Gle) for tA..S_ Officers In Kerale sEOtthng Indemnity claims of farmers and the contributIOn to the debentures of Land De- 8551. PROF K-V. THOMAS. W," the velopment Bank IS being made directly to PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state' them. (a) the number of officers recomme.,ded (d) All these schemes .ncluded In the by Kerala Government to conter tA.S. on Cent,al Plan are meant to faCIlitate adequate them during the last three years; 217 Wrm.n Answers VAISAKHA24,1912 (SAKA) Writt9n AnswBlS 218 (b) the number out of them who have provides maintenance grants to Central been conferred lAS by Union Government; Universities/Colleges and development grants to universitieslColieges for strength- (c) how many tA.S. officers are now ening institutional infrastructure like build- working in Kerata cadre: and ings, books and journals, equipment and otherfacilities designed to promote th.e quality (d) the number uf tA.S. officers who and level of teaching and research. Accord- have been transferred on request or other- ing to information furnished by U.G.C., the wise from Kerata to other State. and to the Commission has so far released develop- Central Government services during the ment grants to the State Universities amount- last three years? ing-to Rs. 9709.50 lakhs during the 7th Plan period. Central as well as State Universities THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- are facing financial problems due to resource WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) 12 constraints. (b) 12 Study Regarding silent valley In Karala (c) 166 (actual strength as on 3.5.1990. 8553. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- (d) No lAS Officer of Kerala Cadre was MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: transferred to other States dUrJng the last 3 years. 25 lAS Officers of Kerala came on (a) whether Government have made Central Deputation during the period from any study abQut the Silent Valley in Kerala 1.1.1987 to 31.12.1989. which is one of the rare tropical forests in India; Universities facing Financial Crisis (b) whether the Government of Kerala 8552. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the has made any request to exempt the Silent PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Valley from the Forest (Conservationr Act, 1980 to enable them to construct a hydel (a) whether a number of Universities in project there; the country are faCing financial problems: (c) if so, the decision of Government in (b) if so, the number of Universities this regard; and which are facing problems in the country; (d) whether Government have any (c) whether any concrete steps have SchemelProgramme for the preservation of been proposed to meet the srtuation: and Silent Valley? (d) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ROUTRAY) (a> Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHR\ CH\UANBHA\ (b) No, Sir. MEHTA); (a> to (d). Universities established by State Governments receive maintena~ (c) Doesn't arise. grants from the respective State Govern- ments. The University Grants Commission (d) Kerala State Government has in 219 Written Answets MAY 14.1990 Wrlrten AnswelS 220 1984 notified its intention under Section 35 THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- of Wildlife (Protection) Act, 1972 to consti- WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a> and (b). tute Silent Valley as a National Park. It has Examination Centres for the various exami- also been included in the Nilgiri Biospere nations conducted by the UPSC and other Reserve. State Government has been sub- recruiting bodies are set up on the basis of mitting schemes for Conservation of Silent the number of candidates taking the exami- Valley and Central Assistance is·granted on nations. The lists of such centers are revised year to year basis. from time to time by the recruiting bodies keeping in view the relevant aspects. includ- Kerata Forest Research Institute ing tJ:le probable number of candidates and the places from which the applications are 8554. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- received in larger numbers as also the availa- CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- bility of infrastructuralfacilities. For instance, MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: tile number of examination centers set up by USPC was increased from 24 in 1979-80 to (a) whether any internationat organisa- 38 in 1989-90 and those set up by the Staff tions have d~cided to provide any financial Selectfon Commission increased from 19 assistance to the Forest Research Institute and 1976 to 132 in 1989-90. It is not possible at Peechi in Kerala to make it a national for all the recruiting bodies to have uniform research Institute: and list of examination centers as their require- ments are different. (b) if so, the details thereof? Admission to Children of Bank Employ- THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT ees In Kendrlya Vldyalayas AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) No. Sir. 8557. SHRI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) The question does not arise. (a) whetherthechildren of Public sector Revision of List of Examination Centers banks are not being admitted to Kendriya for Various Examinations Vidyalayas in Bangalore city; 8555. SHRI VASANT SAHTE: Will the (b) if so, whether Government have PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: received any representation from the public sector bank employees to admit their chil- dren in Kendriya Vidya'ayas and (a) whether centres for examination conducted by UPSC, Income Tax Depart- (c) if so, the action taken thereon? ment, Public Sector Undertakings, Banking etc., is not uniform and the list of centers has THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE not been revised over a decade: and MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (b) if so, whether Government propose MEHTA): II} Children of transferable employ- ees of autonomous bodies and v) Children of other floating popula- Pubhc Sector Undertakings fully tIon which Includes CIVIl population fl(lanced by Centr al Government deSirous of lomlng the pattern of studIes adopted In the KendrlYa III) ChIldren of non-transferable Cen- Vldyalayas 223 Written Answers MAY 14, 1990' Wnlten Ans...,. 224 Reservation for Scheduled Castel Department of Elac:tronica alao provides Scheduled Tribe Children some assistance for projects in areas such as manpower development and education, 15% and 7-112% of the fresh admis- quality control, testing and standardisation. sions in every Kendriya Vidyalayas will be R&D in electronics etc. The State of Rajast- reserved for the children of transferable han was also covered by various promo- employees belonging to Scheduled Castel tional programmes of the Department of Scheduled Tribes, respectIvely. Electronics. namely, the Electronics Test and Development Centre, Rural Employ- Electronic Industries in Rajasthan ment Generation Schemes for electronic watches, TV assembly and repair, and main- 8558. SHRIMATI VASHUNDHARA tenance of solar photovoltaic systems, as RAJE: Will the PRIME MINISTERbepleased well as the setting up of a Rural Electronics to state: Technology Centre at Rajasthan Electronics & Instruments limited (REll). In addition, a (a) the steps taken in Seventh Plan for total of 18 industrial licences, 36 letters of the development of electrOnic Industry in intent and 59 registrations have been issued RaJasthan: for the manufacture of electronic products in the State of Rajasthan during the VII Plan (b) the total Investment made in the period. The total estimated investment in vanous electroOic UOitS In the state dUring electronics in the State during the VII plan the period: period was approximately As. 70 crores. (c) the dIfferent kinds of electroOlc units (d) and (e). The Department of Elec- set up in the state In the Seventh Plan tronics by itseH does not have any plans at period: present for setting up of new electronic in- dustries in the State of Rajasthan during the (d) whether some new electrOniC units VIII Plan (which is yet to be finalised). It will, are proposed to be set up In the state In the however. continue to extend promotional Erghth Plan; and measures includIng issue of industrial li- cences and other steps cited earlier for (e) if so, the places where the new development of electronic industries in the electronic units are proposed to be set up? State of Rajasthan. Afforestation Programme In Rajasthan THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- 8559. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) to (c). RAJE: WiJI the Minister of ENVIRONMENT Government of India encourages the setting AND- FORESTS be pleased to state: up of electronIC mdustnes throtighout the country in all relevant sectors of electronics. (c) whether there is any machinery to allocation and utilisation of funds for aHores- monitor the cost benefit ratio of the invest- tatioriltree planting during the Seventh Five ment made on the afforestation programme Year Plan are given in the statement given in Seventh Plan: and below. (d) if so, the State-wise details of the finditlgs made thereon? (e) and (d). The benefits of afforesta- tion programme are not necessarily quanti- THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT fiable. The cost-benefit ratio of the invest- AND FORESTS (SHRI NJLAMANI ment made on afforestation during the Sev- ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). Statewise details of enth Plan has not been worked out. 227 Written Answers MAY 14.1990 Writt9n AnswetS 228 ~ 0 0 0 0 0 Ci)' ,.._ 8 0 0 0 0 8 .c:: ~ 0 Il:i ,..: ai Il:i It) - CIO II) 0) N C') ~ - &I) sf ~ - CD co en .... ~ ,...... M ~ - r:::: ~ 0 II) 0 0 '=- 0 ~ 8 8 0 8 ~ ~ ~ ~ cxj cxj cxj cO cxj 0) M ~. N at ...... CQ N &I) N ...... 0) - M C\I-- It') M c:: ..!! 0) a. 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The basic objectives of the mate about the investment required in the National Forest Policy announced in 1988 is Eighth Five Year Plan to make up for the loss the maintenance of environment stability at forest since independence; through pres.ervation and, where "ecessary, restoration of the ecological balance that (d) whether thfJre is any time bound has been adversely disturbed by serious perspective planning regarding attaining"'" depletion of the forests of the country. Res- ecological balance In terms of forests; and toration of ecological balance is a long term process, for which a time-bound plan has not (e) if so, the details thereof? been drawn up. 237 Writtsn AnsW81S VAISAKHA 24,1912 (oSAKA) Written AM_IS 238 CD 0 0 0 1.1} 0 i ""': C! Iol) ~ 8 IJ') .....~ N cD 0 11') co M ;::. ~ .. ~ IJ') C") IJ') V) S - ~ .S! ex; ~ a:a ~ e il §- N ..... 0 ~ . N ~ ..c:~ .5: C) .. 0 0 0 0 0 0');::- 8 0 0 8 0 0 0 c:: .q:e .~ ci ci ci ci ci ci ..!! e g In 0 0 ~ ~ 8 e 0 8 ...... e II) a... 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By Report recommended a strategy in which Private Partie. agnculture plays a majOr role in generating productive employment, support by the 8561. SHRI N DENNIS Will the Minis- growth of labour Intensive manufactured ter of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be exports; the role of large industrial sector is p1eased to state the steps being taken by the to prOVide effiCIently produced, low cost roots Government to protect the forest lands trom and intermediates based on whIch a htgher encroachment by Private Parties? level labour productivity can be reached in the economy as a whole without generating THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT additaonal pressure on balance of payments AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI of pnces According to the report, the majOr ROUTRAy): The NatIOnal Forest Policy, objects of the polICies In the present decade 1988 states that the trend on encroachment should be, among other things, expansIOn of of forest land should be arrested and effec- productIOn In agro-based Industries, Improve- tive actIOn taken to prevent Its contmuance ment In the effICiency of the use of fertiliser It also states that there should be no regulan- and water In agriculture and energy In the satlOn at eXisting encroachments Forest whole economy, a strategy for Wider disper- (Conservation) Act. 1980 aM Its amend- sal of small scale industries and Improve- ment of 1988 restrict diversion of forest land ment In their effiCiency, laYing down prtOrl- for non-forest use States are being assisted ties In technology upgrC"datlon and moderni- financially for development of Infrastructure satIOn In terms of capital goods, Intermedi- for protection of forests under a Centrally ate goods Infrastructure and consumer Sponsored Scheme goods, Improvement In the prOVISIOn and spread of Infrastructure and baSIC industries Suggestions of Economic Advisory along wrth Improvement In quality of serv- Committee on Job Growth Ices and reduced costs, maintaIning the tempo of growth In exports, promotIOn of 8562 SHRI CHITTA BASU Will the greater competitiveness of Indian exports PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state and restructuring of Industrial Investment In favour of effiCient export earning sectors like (a) whether the Economic AdVISOry garments, leather manufactures and agro- Committee have since submitted a report to based Items so as to help In redUCing the the Government suggesting certain speCific Import intensIty of exports and promote fur- measures for the exhaustion of job poten- ther Industrral employment tials In the country If so. the details thereof. The Report 01 the EconomiC AdVISOry (b) the details of the other suggestions CounCil has been taken note of In draWing up made by the CommIttee and the Approach document and Will be constd- ered further while detailing out the employ- (c) the action taken by Government on ment strategy of the Eighth Five Year Plan the suggestions? Yoga Teachers in Kendrlya Vldyalaya. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER 8563 SHRI RAJ MAN GAL MISHRA OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI state BHAGEY GOBARDHAN) (a) to (c) The EconomIC AdVisory CounCIl has In ItS Intertm (a) whether Services of Yoga Teachers. 265 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 266 who have been working in Kendriya Vidyalaya Vidyalayas. In this context, the Kendriya Sangathan for the last ten year, have been Vidyalaya Sangathan found that the Yoga regularised; and teachers who had not opted for acquired B.P.Ed. qualification fell into the following (b) if not, reasons therefor? categories: i) Graduates without Yoga training THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for a minimum of nine months. MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI ii) Under-graduates who had the MEHTA): (a) and (b). Teaching of Yoga was requisite Yoga qualification. started on an experimental basis in Kendriya Vidyalayas in the Academic year 1981-82. iii) Under-graduates who had not had Since the Scheme of Yoga education was the requisite Yoga qualification. temporary and has been continued on year to year basis, all the yoga teacher were appointed on adhoc baSIS and their servICes The Sangathan decided that the above were also extended on year to year basis. categories of teachers should acquire the Based on a review of the scheme of Yoga qualifications of Graduation and lor Yoga education, the Board of GO\fernors of the training to be regularised as Yoga teachers. Sangathan decided In September, 1986, Until they acquire these qualifications they that the teaching of PhYSical Education and would be continued as adhoc Yoga teach- yoga should be integrated and that for this ers. purpose, PhYSical Education teacher should be given training In Yoga and Yoga teachers should acquire adequate qualifications for Yoga Teaching in Kendriya Vidyalayas teaching Physical Education. 8564. SHRI RAJ MANGAL MISHRA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Twenty-four Yoga teachers who already state: possessed qualifications prescribed for the post of Physical Education Teachers were (a) whether essential indoor facilities for appointed as such. The Kendriya Vidyalaya Yoga teaching in Kendriya Vidyalayas has Sangathan nominated Yoga Teachers to not been provided so far; and undergo a special B.P .ED-(Summer Course) in 3 semesters In Lakshml Bal NatIOnal (b) if so, the steps being taken in this College in PhYSical Education (L.N.C.P.C.), regard? Gwalior, Ninety five Yoga teachers have since acquired the qualificatIons of B.P. Ed. The question offormal regularisation of these THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE employees as PETs would be placed before MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- the Board of Governors for a deciSion. VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a) and (b). There are no specified indoor facilities required to be provided for The Board of Governors in their meet- Yoga teaching in Kendriya Vidyalayas. Ing in December, 1988. reViewed the scheme However, wherever covered and enclosed further and decided that Yoga would be space in available, it is used for Yoga teach- taught as a separate discipline in Kendriya ing. 267 WrittenAnsW9~ MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 268 [ Translation) and Scheduled Tribes out of them; SClST Employees In Ministry of ScI- (b) whether reservation quota for SCI ence and Technology ST employees has not been completed; and 8565. SHRITHAN SINGHJATAV: Will (c) whether any special efforts would be the PRIME MINISTER be pteased to state:.. made to complete the reservation quota, if so, the details thereof? (a) the number of class 1.11.111 and IV employes in the Department of Science and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Technology categorywise; and the number MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- of persons belonging to Schedule Castes OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) Group Total No. of No. of employees No. of employees employees belonging to SC belonging to ST 2 3 4 A 158 11 B 166 17 3 C 153 27 16 o 116 40 3 (b) and (c). Reservation quota for SCI Delhi Cantonment; ST could not be completed due to non- availability of qualified personnel belonging (b) if so. the reasons as to why the to these categones. All possible action is DESU is demanding the security of the same taken from time to time to ensure that the electric meter again; and vacancies reserved for these categories are filled. (c) the steps proposed to be taken to do away with the practice of taking the double [English1 security for Electric Meters from consumers of Delhi Cantonment? Security Deposits for Electric Meters In Delhi Cantonment Area THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA 8566. DR LAXMINARA VAN PAN- RAMANNA): (a) Private consumers in Delhi DEYA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased Cantt. area receiving electric power supply to state: from MES have to deposit cost and security of electric meters with the MES. (a) whether the consumers of Delhi Cantonment area have to deposit the cost (b) However. el8Ctn.:· power supply to and security of electric meters with the MES. some consumers was transferred to DESU 269 Written Answers VAIS~KHA 24,1912 fSAKA) Written Answers 270 during 19SA when MES transferred all as- policy (1990-93) leading to import of com- sets including electric metes. Since DESU puters under various guises; became the supplying agency, hence a separate security deposit is required to be (b) whether the Manufacturers Asso- held by them. Such of these consumers ciation for Information Technology (MAlT) whose connections were transferred to DESU has also stated that additional licence facility by MES are to claim the refund of their earlier has been misused for import of computers in security deposits for MES on production of large numbers; relevant documents. (c) whether any enquiry has been (c) The responsibility for claiming re- conducted, if so, the outcome of the enquiry; fund rests with the consumers with produc- and tion of proper documents_ (d) the action proposed to check the Area Under Delhi Cantonment Board recurrence of such incidents? 8567. DR LAXMINARAYAN PAN- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEY A: Will the PRIME MINISTERbe pleased MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- to state: OGY (pROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) to (d). The question relates to import to computers (a) whether there IS any proposal to under vanous guises in terms of the provi- declare all the streets as public streets falling sions of current Import-Export Policy 1990- within the Delhi Cantonment Board limits In 93. The said Import Policy same into opera- Naralna area. tion with effect from 1st April, 1990. Depart- ment of Electronics have not received any (b) whether any survey has been con- complaint so far. The particulars of imports ducted in this regard: against this Policy and misuse of the provi- sions of the Policy, if any, will have to be (c) If so, the details thereof: and ascertained. Cd) when thiS proposal IS likely to be Electronic Units in Baroda and Ahme- implemented? dabad THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 8569. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA BRAHMBHATT: Will the PRIME MINISTER RAMANNA): (a) and (bJ- No_ Sir be pleased to state: (c) and (d)_ Do not anse (a) whether Government propose to set- Import of Computers Under Import up some electronic units in Ahmedabad and Policy Baroda, if so, the details thereof: 8568. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO (b) the total amount proposed to be BRAHMBHA TT: Will the PRIME MINISTER spent on each project and the time by which be pleased to state: these projects are likely to be completed; (a) whether there are complaints of (c) the total produdion capacity ofthese misuse of the provIsions of the current import projects: and 271 Wr~enAnsW9~ MAY 14.1990 Written Answe~ 272 (d) the time by whICh the production is (d) to what extent the real wages and likely to start in these unIts? real expenditure by t~e poorest have risen; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) the steps being considered to re- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- duce the poverty levels; and OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) to (d). Govemment of IndIa encourages the setting (f) whether any target has been set in up of electronIC Industries throughout the thiS regard? country In all relevant sectors of electronics. The concerned State Government or agen- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cIes like the State ElectronIcs Development MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER CorporatIOns (SEDCs) proVide some facili- OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- tIes and promotIOnal incentives for setting up GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI of specifIC Industrial units In the state The BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): (a) and (b). Yes, Department of ElectronICs also gives neces- Sir, the poverty level has declined from 37 4% sary guidance and approvals/licenses etc. In 1983-84, to 29.2"/" In 1987-88, as esti- Department of Electronrcs also prOVIdes mated from the provISionally tabulated data some assistance for proJects In areas such on h.ousehold consumer expenditure col- as manpower development and education. lected In the 38th and the 43rd Rounds of qualrty control, testrr.g and standardisatIon, National Sample Survey (NSS) R&D In electroniCs elc (c) The World Bank report on "INDIA For the Baroda and Ahmedabad areas, POVERTY EMPLOYMENT AND SOCIAL 45 Industnal LIcences (ILs), 12 Letters of SERVICES", reports the offiCial estimates of Intent (LOis) and 12 Registrations have been poverty and also gives an alternative esti- Issued. Out of these units, 46 have reported mate based on the same NSS data but uSing to be In production Government assuch has a dIfferent methodology of poverty estima- no plans at present to set up electronic units tion In these areas (d) The data on real wages of poor IS not Decline in Poverty Levels available The real expendIture of poor has risen from monthly pElr capita expenditure of 8570 SHRI PRAKASH KOKO Rs. 50 79 In 1983-84 (at 1980-81 prices) to BRAHMBHATT W,Jlthe PRIME MINISTER monthly per capita expenditure of Rs 52 87 be pleased to state In 1987-88 (at 1980-81 prices) (a) whether poverty levels are slowly (e) Self-employment (IRDP) and wage- and steadily declining as per the National employment (JRY) programmes are bemg Survey data for the 43rd round covenng operated throughout the country EmphaSIS 1987-88 dUring the EIghth Plan WIll, further, be gIven on ari Integrated area development approach based on local problems and circumstances (b) If so, to what extent poverty levels ThiS IS expected to result In generation of have been declining higher employment opportunities. (C) to what extent the data shown by the (f) Atthetlmeof Seventh Five Year Plan NatIOnal Sample Surveytalltes WIth the World formulation, It was expected that the poverty Bank re;lOrt. level Will come down to 25.8% by 1989-90 273 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 274 THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT Navel Training School at Kaklnada, A.P. AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). The norms for major 8571. SHRI M.M. PALLAM RAJU: Will field level assignments in the forestry sector the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: recommended to the State Governments are given in the statement given below. No (a) the time by which the construction of norms have however, been laid down by the the proposed Naval Training School at MiniStry of Environment and Forests in re- Kakinda (East Godavari District, A.P.) is spect of forest area under the charge of expected to be initiated: individual forest officers, average number of staff and the average budget available to (b) the areas of land acquired for the them. These parameters differfrom State to purpose: and State depending upon the forest coyer and the availability of staff (c) the tlme·frame Within which It IS proposed to be completed? (c) Resources like arms and equipment available to forest staff are inadequate to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE deal with the problems of poaching, smug- MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR. RAJA gling and deforestation in forest areas. RAMANNA)· (a) and (b). An AmphibiOUS Warfare Training Schools IS proposed to be (d) Steps being taken for imprOVing the established near Kaklnda in the East Godav- effectiveness of forest staff include imple- an District of Andhra Pradesh. Land acquIsI- mentation of two Centrally Sponsored tion work IS currently In progress for thiS. Schemes for giving assistance to State Governments for control of poaching and (C) It will not be pOSSible to indicate a illegal trade in wildlife and for development of tlme·frame for completion of the work at this Infrastructure for the protection of forests stage. as details of the Project will be worked from biotic interference. The main items being out only after the land IS taken over. supported under these schemes are pur- chase of vehicles, arms, ammunition, wire- Resources Available to Forest Officers less sets (fixed and mobile). boats, fire- fighting equipment; digging of cattle proof 8572. SHRI M.M. PALLAM RAJU: Will trenches, prOVISion of barbed wire. fencing the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- for buffer zones and tree top watch towers ESTS be pleased to state etc. (a) the average forest area that a Forest STATEMENT Officer IS responsible for: Norms for Major Field Level Assignments (b) the average number of staff and the in the Forestry Sector average budget available to a forest officer: i) Forest Protection (Territorial (c) whether the resources available to a Charge) torest of1tcer are adequate: and One Forest Division for 1000-1500 (d) the additional steps/measures being Sq. Kms. of Forest area in the plain taken by Government to equip forest officers regions and 500-1000 Sq. Kms. of to deal effectively With poaching In forests? forest area in the hilly regions 275 Written AnswefS MAY 14,1990 WrItten AnswefS 276 If) AfforestatIOn (Including Social For- THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT estry on forest lands and govern- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ment laOOs/5ol1 ConservatIOn In ROUTRAY): (a) No, Sir The matter IS under forest areas and other Government conSideratIOn. lands (b) No, Sir One DNlsIOn for a workload of about 3000 ha of afforestation annually, (c) and (d) No formal request has been provided the area In plain and made by India to the developed countnes to compact and 1500 to 1000 ha If It transfer substitute technologies, free of cost IS In the hills and or In scattered However, In the meetings of varIOus Interna- blocks tional fora. India a.nd other developing coun- trtes have suggested for unrestricted access If mechantsed operations are on a non-commerclal baSIS to technologies undertaken the area could be In- for swrtchlng over to alternatives of chloro- creased to 5000 ha In the plains fluorocarbons and other ozone depleting (other figures will also change pro- chemICal substances The reaction of the portionately) developed countries to these suggestions are not yet crystallised III) Social Forestry (Farm Forestry) Green House Effect At least on DIVIsion per dlstrtct subject to the total area of the dls- 8574 PROF P J KURIEN Will the tnct not exceeding 5000 sq Kms Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS and the population not exceeding be pleased to state abou1 20 Irtkhs (a) whether India IS one of the countries Montreal Protocol which are contributing greatly to the green house effect, 8573 PROF P J KURtEN Will the Mlntsterof ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (b) If so, whether the Government have be pleased to state given any senous thought to thiS problem, and (a) whether India has decided to adhere to the Montreal Protocol to reduce the use of (c) If so, the details of steps being taken chlorof luorocarbons In thiS regard? THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT (b) whether the technology for manu AND FORESTS (SHRt NllAMANI factunng the sUbstrtute for CFCs eXists lCl ROUTRAY) (a) No, S.r, the Industnallsed India countries account for bulk of the green house gas emiSSIOns (c) rf not whether the development countnes have been requested to transfer (b) and (c) An Expert AdVISOry Com- thiS technology free of cost and mittee under the ChairmanshIP of Director General, Council of SClentdlC and Industnal (d) If so. the reaction of those coun of Research has been formed In the MInistry trtes? of EnVironment and Forests for coordinating 277 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 278 the research programmes in various research (c) the details of financial assistance institutions and universities on green house being provided to the above States for this effect and sea level rise. Other measures purpose? include afforestation of degraded wastelands, promotion of renewable sources of energy THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT and increasing the energy efficiency in in- AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI dustries and other sectors. ROUTRAY): (a) Yes, Sir. Ravage Due to Floodsand (b) The steps taken in the Seventh Five Year Plan for restoration of ecoJogicai bal- 8575. SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD ance in the States of U.P., Bihar and West VARMA: Will the Minister of ENVlRONMENT Bengal are as follows: AND FORESTS be pleased to state: i) Conservation of ecologically frag- ile eea-system and preservation of (a) whether economic condition of the biological diversity in terms of fauna people of Eastern U.P. , Bihar and West and flora; Bengal is In shamble due to ravage of floodsand and ~Iogical imbalance caused ii) Increasing substantially the vege- thereby in the Indogangetic plains lying be- tative cover by massive afforesta- tween Himalaya and the Ganges areas; and tion through Social Forestry, Farm Forestry and other plantation pro- (b) if so, the details thereof and what grammes; measures Government propose to take in thiS regard? iii) Implementing the wildlife conser- vation programme; THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI IV) Conservation of Mangroves and ROUTRAY): (a) No, Sir. Wetlands; (b) Does not arise. v) Setting up of Biosphere Reserves; Restoration of Ecological Balance vi) Prevention and Control of water and Air Pollution and Prevention of 8576. SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD Pollution of River Ganga. VARMA SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD vii) EnVironmental Appraisal of devel- YADAV. opment projects; Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT viii) FormulatIOn of policy and strength- AND FORESTS be pleased to state: ening of legtslation for environment and forestry; (a) whether Government have taken any steps in the Seventh Five Year Plan for ix) Promotion of research, education restoration of ecological balance in the State and training in the areas of environ- of U.P., Bihar and West Bengal: ment and forestry; (b) if so, the details thereot and if not. x) Creation of environmental aware- the reasons therefor: and ness; 279 Written AnsW9fS MAY 14.1990 Written AnsW9IS 280 (c) The details of funds provided to Seventh Plan are as follows: U.P., Bihar and West Bengal during the Allocation fRs. in crores) u.P. Bihar West Bengal Central Plan 254.06 173.53 163.10 State Plan 195.27 61.65 59.54 Operation Black Board In Bihar boards, mats, charts, small library, toys, games equipment, etc. According to the 8577. SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD latest available information, there were 9163 VARMA: schools without buildings in Bihar in 1986. SHRI DASAI CHOWDHARY: (d) The State ~overnment has pre- Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased pared a project proposal to cover 90 blocks to state: under the scheme during 1990-91. (a) the number of primary schools [ Translation J opened in East and West Champaran dis- tricts of Bihar under Operation Black Board; Teaching of Sanskrit In Navodaya Vidyalayas and Kendrlya Vldyalayas (b) the number of such schools running without buildings in Bihar: 8578. KUMARI UMA BHARATI: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (c) whether Government propose to p!'Ovide buildings and teachers for such (a) whether Sanskrit has been included schools: and in the syllabus in all the schools throughout the country; (d) the Number of Blocks to be covered in the State under the scheme during 1990- (b) if so, whether Sanskrit has been 91? included in the curriculum of Navodaya Vidyalayas also: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- (c) whether there are any arrange- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI ments for teaching Sanskrit in Kendriya MEHTA): (a) to (c). OperatIOn Blackboard is Vidyalayas at Xth standard and thereafter XI a scheme tor providing existing primary th and XII th standards also; and schools with minimum essential facilities comprising: i) an additional teacher, prefera- Cd) if not, the reasons therefor? bly a woman, in single teacher schools; (ii) two reasonably large all weather rooms. with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE a deep verandah, alongwith separate toilet MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- facilities for boys and girls: and (iii) essential VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI teaching earning material including b1ack- MEHTA): (a) School Education is primarily 281 Written Answer.s VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answer.s 282 looked after and managed by the State THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT Governments. The State Governments and AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI the State Boards of Secondary Education ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). Under the Social are responsibte for prescribing curriculum, Forestry Programme, the following main syllabus and textbooks for all subjects, in- activities have been undertaken in Chattar- cluding the languages at the schoo stage. pur in Tikamgarh districts of Madhya Pradesh: Therefor, no statistics are maintained by Department of Education on the specific i) Establishment of Decentralised details regarding teaching of Sanskrit In all People's Nurseries. schools througtouut the country. ii) Establishment of Demonstration (b) Navodaya Vidyalayas follow the Plots on Community lands. normal Three Language Formula. I\ccord- Ing to this, English. Hindi and regional lan- iii) Agro-torestry and Farm forestry. guage is taught 10 all Navodaya Vidyalayas located In non-Hindi Speaking regions. In iv) Rehabilitation of degraded forest. Hindi speaking regions. the third language taught IS the language of If the 20% studel'lts v) Pasture development. migrating to that Vldyalaya from a non-Hindi region at class IX level Sansknt IS, hOYvever. vi) Distribution of smokele~s chulhas not being taught In Navodaya Vldyalayas. (c) Does not anse. (c) Sansknt IS taught in Kendnya Vidyalayas as a compulsory subject from Sale of Persona' Computers class V to IX. It can also be offered as an additional language In class X and as an 8581. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD elective subject In class XI and XII SINGH. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (d) Does not arise (a) whether there was any fall in the sale [Eng/ish] of personal computers and other types of computers last year: Social Forestry in M.P. (b) whether excise duty imposed upon pEHsonal compu Lers has affected their sal~s; 8579. KUMAR I UMA BHARATI: WI I: and the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ESTS be pleased 10 state: (c) the steps taken to bring computers within the reach of lower income group? (a) whether some programmes have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been implemented under SOCial Forestry MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- Scheme in Chattarpur and Tikamgarh in OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) anci (b). Maohya Pradesh: No. Sir (b) if so. details thereof: and (c) Electro,nics Trade & Technology Development Corporation (ET& T). a Public (c) It not, reasons therefor? Sector Undertaking underthe Department of 283 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 284 Electronics has initiated a project to make eral, Council tor Scientific and Industrial available personal computerSi_. at reasonable Research and repr-.sentatives from Minis- price which are affordable by larger num~ tries of Human Resource Development, bers. Under the scheme, personal comput~ Finance and Science and Technology to ers are available at a price of Rs. 109501- and exan:aine problems faced by young Scien- onward, which is expected to popularise the tists and demands put forward by them. use of computers in the country. ET& T has made a nation wide arrangement for the (c) Issues raised by young scientists training and maintenance of these comput- relate to discrepancies in emoluments, reor~, ers at reasonable cost. ganising the research service in a cadre mode, involvement in policy planning bod- Demands of Research Scholars ies, etc. 3582. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA (d) and (e). An IntAr-Ministerial Com- MURTHY: Will the PRIME MINISTER be mittee underthe Chairmanship of Chairman, pleased to state: University Grants Commission considered the issues in 1988. The main recommenda- (a) whether Government have appointed tions in the report of this Committee are: an Expert Committee to look into the de- mands of the Research Scholars and young i) Substantial increase in emoluments SCientists: of all the categories of Research Fellews, Research Associates and (b) If so, the composition of the Commit- Research Scientists. tee. ii) House Rent allowance, and leave, (e) the details of their demands: Medical and other service benefits, to all categories of scientists. (d) whether demands of research schol- ars and SCientists were evaluate In 1988 by iii) Increased overhead expenses for the Chairman 01 the University Grants infrastructural facilities to the host Commission and Increase in their emolu- institutions. ments was made on the basis of report given by him: and Inquiry Commission on NRI Land Deals In Karnataka (e) if so, the details of the main recom- mendations of the report? 8583. SHRI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- (a) when the Justice Kuldip Singh OGY (PROF. MGK MENON): (a) and (b). Commission of InqUiry to inquire into NRI Yes, Sir. land deals in Karnataka was constituted by Union Government; A committee has been set up under the Chairmanship of Prof Yash Pal, Chairman, (b) the initial time given to Commission Universrty Grants Commission consisting of for submission of the report; Director General, Indian Council of Agricul- tural Research, Director General Indian (c) the total amount so far spent on the Council of Medical Research, Drrector Gen- said Commission; 285 Writtf1n Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 286 (d) whether the Commission has sub- mentation of the above programme. mitted its report to Union Government; and THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT (e) if not. the reasons therefor and when AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI it is likely to submit ,ts report? ROUJRAY): (a) to (c). Government of Kar- nataka have sent a proposal in November. 1989 for Integrated Development of forests THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- in Western Ghats with an estimated outlay of WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) The Com- Rs. 355 crores. ~ission was constItuted by Government on 28th June, 1989. (d) Revised project report has been called from the State Government. (b) Three mC'1ths (c\ Rs 10.00676'- upto 31st March, Elephant Sanctuary in Karnataka 1990. (d) No. SIr 8585. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARA- SIMHA RAJAWADIYAR: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased (e) The CommlsstQn completed the to state: heartngs on 30.3 1990 The preparatIon of the Report has been taken on hand The CommISSion has also heen granted further (a) whether Governmen1 have set up extensIon of time upto 30th June 1990 to any elephant sanctuary in Karnataka: complete Its work (b) If so, the reasons therefor: Regarding Integrated Development of Forests in Western Ghats (c) whether Government have any proposal to set up an elephant sanctuary In 8584. SHRI He SRIKANTAIAH' Will that state: and the M,n,ster of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ESTS be pleased to state (d) 'f so. the steps taken in this regard? (a) whether Karnataka Government have sent any proposal to the Union Gov- THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT ernment for the Int~grated Development of AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI forests In Western Ghats In Karnataka: ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). There IS no sanc- tuary In Karnataka that has been set up (b) If so. when was the proposal sent: exclUSively for elephants. The name of sanc- tuaries and national parks where elephants iC) the total cost 01 the proposed pro- are found and are gettin9 protection in Kar- gramme. and nataka IS gIVen In the Statement gIve below. (d) whether the Government have (c and (d). There is noproposalto set up sanctIOned any assistance for the IfYlple- an elephant sanctuary in Karnataka. 287 Written AnswetS MAY 14.1990 Written AnsMH'S 288 STATEMENT National paries and Sanctuanes of Karnalaka wh9re Elephants are Found and Get protec- tion 51. No. Name of NatIonal Name of Area ;n Parle/Sanctuary of District Sq. Kms. 2 3 4 Bandlpur Mysore 874.20 2 Bannerghata Bangalore 104.27 3 Nagarhole 643.39 Mysore Coorg 1,621 16 4 Bhadra Shlmoga 49246 Chlkmanglur 5 Bllhglra RangaswamI Temple Mysore 53952 6 Bhramgln Madlbhen 181 29 7 Cauven Mysore 51051 8 Dandeli Mysore 84316 9 Nugu Uttar Kanada 3032 10 Pushpglri Mandlkhen 10292 11 Talakaven Mandlkhen 10500 2.80518 Activities of Indian Rare Earth Limited (a) whether Indian Rare Earth Limited (IREl) has a plan to Increase Its actIvities. 8586 SHRI SRIKANT ADATT A NARA- SIMHA RAJA WAOIYAR Will the PRIME (b) If so. the new programmes pro- MINISTER be plea~ed to "tate posed to be launched by IREL 289 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 290 (c) whether IREL proposes to set up THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mineral separation plant in Tamil Nadu; and MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- (d) if so, the steps taken by IREL in that GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI regard? BHAGEY GOBAROHAN); (a) NO, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). Do not arise. MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) Yes, Sir. Survey Regarding Air and Noise Pollution in Bihar (b) In addition to the schemes of mod- emisation, diversification, etc. Indian Rare 8588. SHRI RAMDAS SINGH: Will the Earths have plans to exploit mineral depos- Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS its located by Atomic Miner~ls Division in be pleased to state: Tamil Nadu. Andhra Pradesh and Mahar- ashtra. The company also proposes to set tal whether Government have con- up plants for the manu1acture of titanium ducted any survey in the State of Bihar to dIOxide pIgments and synthetic rutile. identify area worst affected by air and noise pollution: (c) Yes. SIr (b) if so, the det~ils thereof; and (d) Indian Rare Earths Ltd. propose to exploit the depoSits 01 heavy mInerai at (c) the main causes of pollution and Kudiralmozhl In V.O. Chldambaranar Dis- measures taken in this regard? trict Tamil Nadu by setting up a mineral processing project In phases. The company THE MINtSTER OF ENVIRONMENT has already approached vanous agencies in AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI the State and Central Government for get- ROUTRAY): (a) Yes, Sir. Dhanbadhasbeen tIng mintng lease, envIronmental clearance, tdentl11ed as an area affected by air pollution. late. Steps have been taken to find out the No studies have been carried out to survey availability of adequate ground water In that the noise problem in Bihar. area. (b) and (c). The Central Pollution Con- AHocation to Irrigation and Hydro trol Board and 'other concerned agencies Electric Projects in Kerala conducted a detailed air quality survey in Dhanbad area during November~986. Open 8597. PRDF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the cast and underground coal mininy, bee-hive PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: hard .coke plants, briquette plants. of coke p9nts and refractory manufacturing units (a) whether some major irngation and are the major sources of air pollution in the hydro electnc projects In Kerala are being area. To improve the air quality all the bri- delayed for want -of suffICient a"ocatlon of quette plants have been advised by the funds: Bihar State Pollution Control Board to im- prove the design of the plants. The soft coke (b) if so, the detail thereof: and preparation in the open has also been dis- courage. The Central Fuel Research Insti- Cc) the steps taken to step up the tute, Dhanbad has taken up the work of implementation of these projects? evolving a new design for contrOlling emis- 291 Written Answers MAY 14.1990 Written Answers 292 sions from coke oven plants. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Vocational Courses in Schools VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a) and (b). Twenty one vocational 8589. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. courses at 2 stage are being taught in Gov- BHOSALE: Will the PRIME MINISTER be ernment and Government aided schools pleased to state: being run under Delhi Administration as per statement given below. (a) whether some professional courses (c) and (d). The following vocational are being taught j~ Government schools of courses are proposed to be introduced dur- Dl?lhi: ing the session 1990-91. 1. A vocational course on subjects of (b) if so. the details thereof: schoolwlse: Railway Job Orientation. 2. Auxiliary Nursing and Mid-wifery. (C) whether Government propose to '"traduce some more yocatlonal subjects In 3. X-ray Technician. these schools: 4. Laboratory Technician. (d) if so. the detarls thereof: and 5. Dairying. (e) if not. the reasons therefor? 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SHRI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI: nised schools exist: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (d) if so, the details thereof: and (a) whether the Planning Commission has approved the Birupa-Genguti Island (e) if not. the steps being taken In this project is Orissa: regard? (b) if so, the estimated cost of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE proJect: and MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (c) the total hectares of land likely to be MEHTA): (a) to (e) According to the InfN- brought under cultivation when the project of mation furnished by Deihl Administration implemented? there were. 169,85 and 113 private un-aided recognised. middle. secondary and senior THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE secondary schools respectively being run in MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER Delhi during 1989-90. The majority of such OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- un-aided recogntsed private schools are GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI having pre-primary classes and are charg- BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): (a) Yes, Sir. ing according to their schedule of fees. (b) As. 463 lakhs. Fifteen public schools have ben started (c) 8086 hectares of gross cult~"-1.ted by the Management Committees In the build- area is proposed to be covered by irrigation ings of secondary and senIOr secondary from this project. schools aided by Deihl Administration. Illegal Trade in Wild Life As per Rule 50 of th Deihl School Edu- cation Rules. 1973. made under the Act. for 8592. SHRI PAATAPAAO B. recognition of a school:- BHOSALE: i) the accommodation should be SHRI SHANTILAL PU- suffiCient for the classes under RUSHOTTAM DAS instruction in the school: PATEL: ii) there should be no thoroughfar or Wi~1 the Minister of ENVIRONMENT public passage through any part of AND FORESTS be pleased to state: 327 Written Answet$ MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 328 (c) the reasons for mushrooming ofthls Illegal trade .n Wildlife products, II) InternatIOnal trade In endangered Species of plants and animals and (d) the actIOn taken against those in- artICles made thereof has been volved in thiS ,IIegal trade and banned under the prOVISions of the ConventIOn on International Trade (e) the preventIVe steps being taken to In Endangered Species of Wild check thiS In tuture? Fauna and Flora (CITES) THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT III} Export of artICles made out of pehs AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI of Wild animals IS prohibited under ROUTRAY) (a) and (b) The list ot WIld Export Poltey animal skins and trophies seized by Deihl AdminIstratIon between 30 12 1989 - IV) Central ASSIstance IS provided to 2 3 1990 IS given In the statement attached States and Unton Terrltones for The value of seIzed goods IS estImated by strengthening antI-poachIng Infra- Delh. Administration to be As 21 50 lakhs structure However, rt IS dIffIcult to evaluate the prrce of rtems whose trade IS banned V) SpeCial schemes for protectIOn and conservatIOn of tIgers and rhlnes (c) Demand and use of such rare Items, are being Implemented resuhlng Into extraordinary h'gh prtce In the underworld market seems to be the maIn reasons behind such trade VI) Close coordination IS malntamed With the Police at State level and (d) Action taken agamst persons in- wrth Customs Department, Dlrec- volved In the trade Include 10rate of Revenue Intelhgence,Central Bureau of In- prosecution under the prOVIsions vestigation Coast Guards and of WIld life (Protection) Act Army at Government of India level regarding anti-poachIng measures compounding of cases ,nvolvlng animals not Included In Schedule I and II (Part-h) of the Act VII) A system of cash rewards have been Introduced for getting intelli- gence about poachers and Illegal (e) Precautionary steps being taken to 1raders 329 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 330 STATEMENT List of Animal Skins Seized by Delhi Administration form 30. 12. 1989 to 2.3. 1990 51. No. Name of the SkinlTrophy Species Seized 2 3 1. Tiger 2 2. Leopard 29 3. Otter 170 4. Hili fox 22 5. Hyana 6. Crocodile 2 7. Black Buck 8 Common fox 24 9. Jackal 141 10 Large Indian Civil 7 1 1 . Tody Cat 15 12. Jungle Cat 123 13. Leopard Cat 14 Desert Cat 3 15 Red Fox 165 16 Sn3ke 6014 17 Black Buck 1 Trophy 18. Tiger Bones 30 Kilograms 19. Snake skin articles 94 331 WrittenAnswetS MAY 14,1990 Written AnsWetS 332 Anganwadl Centres In Punjab the schemes of Rural Fuelwood Plantations. Silvipasture Development. Decentralised 8593. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will nurseries and the Rural Employment the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Schemes of the Department 01 Rural Devel- opment. (a) the number of Anganwadi Centres in Punjab: and (b) Details of areas coverage under all afforestation activities in Punjab. including (b) the number of male and temale Hoshiarpur district. during the period 1996- teachers. separately working in these 87 to 1989-90 are as under: centres? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Year Area (in hectares) DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF 2 WELFARE (SHRIMATI USHA SINHA) (a) The total number of Anganwadl Centres , 986-87 28379.50 sanctIOned In Punjab. as on 31.3 1990 IS 6717. 1987-88 24776.00 (b) Each Anganwadl Centres IS man- 1988-89 28730.00 aged by An Anganwadl Worker. assisted by a Helper Both of thQm are VOluntary, part- 1989-90 20000.00 (target) time. honorary femaie workers (c) The main species planted are for Central Assistance to Punjab for forest raiSing fuelwood, fooder, fruit and other for- Plantation est produced like Khair. SiftS. AnoIa Bhaera. Bakam. Bamboo. Kaekar. Neem and 8594 SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY· Will Subabul. etc. the MInister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR· ESTS be pleased to stale [Translation 1 (al whether Government have given English as Medium of Inst:uctlon In aSSIstance to Punjab for forest plantatIon In Delhi Schools the Hoshlarpur district and other backward areas of Punjab 8595. SHRI M.S. PAL: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) If so. the details of the areas covered thereby; and (a) the number of primary. secondary and higher secondary schools under Deihl (c) the different kinds of plants planted AdmiOistration. MunICipal Corporation of In these areas under the centrally sponsored Deihl where medium of instruction has be- scheme dUring the last three years? come English from 1990-91 session and the classes from whICh thiS medium has been THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT Introduced; and AND FORESTS (SHRI NllAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) Central assistance has been (b) the reasons for introducing English provided to the Government of Punlab under as the medium? 333 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 334 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion furnished by Delhi Administration Eng- MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- lish as a medium of instruction has been VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI Introduced in the following schools from MEHTA): (a) and (b). According the inform a- academic session 1990-91: Category and Class Number of Sections No. of Schools Primary Schools Nil Nil Secondary Schools --9 1st One Section Senior Secondary 1st One Section Schools-20 Senior Secondary IXth One Section Schools-3 SenIOr Secondary VI th & One Section Schools -1 IXth ThiS has been done on the baSIS of a (d) if so, the steps proposed to be taken demand from a large number of parents. in this direction? Municipal Corporation of Delhi has not intro- duced Enghsh as a medium 01 Instruction In THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT allY schools under them. AND FORESTS (SHRi NIlAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) According to information [English] contained in the book 'The Silviculture of Indian Tr9ss' by R.S. Troup. Teak occurs Teakwood Potential in Teekamgarh, MP naturally in the states of Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, Karnataka. Kerala. Madhya 8596. KUMARI UMA BHARATI: Will Pradesh, Maharashtra, Orissa. Rajasthan the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- Tamilnadu, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal. ESTS be pleased to state: (b) to (d). The Information is being col- (a) the State in the country where lected and will be laid on the Table of the 'teakwood· IS found: House. (b) whether any sUivey of Teekemargh TIssue CUlture Method for Producing district In Madhya Pradesh has been con- Saplings ducted to exploit the potential of thiS scarce wood: 8597. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- (C) ·...,hether the area located in ESTS be pleased to state: Teekamgarh has a great potential of produc- Ing this wood: and (a) whether forest cover has been 335 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 336 diminishing over the years as revealed by setting up Pilot Plant fa- the Remote Sensing Laboratory data; cilitIeS at National ChemI- cal Laboratory, Pun. and (b) whether the Government had faded Tata Energy Research to bnng out this data In time tor corrective institute, New Delhi with a actIOn; view to carry out large scale micro propagation (c) whether there have been many R and bulk multiplication of &0 programmes and other scheme for usmg ehte forest trees, uSIng tissue culture method for prodUCing sap- tissue culture techniques hngs; and If so, details of these schemes IndICating funds spent In the Seventh Five ElQht R&D projects for year Plan. and developing and standardi- satlon of tissue culture (d) how many saplings have been pro- techniques for Plant let duced through tISsue-culture and what IS the regeneratIOn through elite estimated survival? natIOnally Important for- est tree species have THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT been started AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY) (a) According to the study An amount of Rs 446 conducted by Forest Survey of India wrth the cores have been released help of satell.lte Imagery the forest cover In dunng the 7th F,ve Year the country was.64 20 mllhor hectares dur- Plan penod for the above Ing the perIOd 1981-83 It was reduced to proJ9Gts 64 01 mllhonhectaresdunngthepenod1985- 87 Thus there has been a reduction of 0 19 (2) The SCientists at National mllhon hectares of forest cover In the country Chemical Laboratory between the assessments made In 1981-83 have been dOing research and 1985-87 on tissue culture of teak bamboo, Eucalyptus and (b) The trend of continUing deforesta- Salvedora species tion had attracted government 5 attention and as a corrective measure the Govern- (3) The Indian Institute of ment has set up the National Wasteland Forest Genetics and tree Development Board In 1985 for massive breeding at COlmbatore afforestation has been set up as one of the SIX Institutes under (c) (1) As per the Information Indian CouncIl of Forest lurnlshed by the Depart- Research and EducatIon ment of Biotechnology the In 1986 A diVISIon of tiS- follOWing action has been sue culture has been set taken by them regarding up at COlmoatore to do R&D programmes of tiS- research work on thiS sue culture subject TWO projects were sanc- (d) The total number of tIssue culture tioned In Feb 1989 for plantlets produced In the above proJects 337 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 338 during the 7th Five Year Plan is 23,000. The regard? present survival rate is 85-90%. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Construction of Youth Hostels in MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Hassan (Karnataka) VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a) No, Sir. The monuments and 8598. SHRI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will sites protected by the Central Government the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: in the district of Bastar. Madhya Pradesh, are not in a state of disrepair. The State (a) the places where youth hostels were Government also protect some monuments constructed during 1989 in Hassan district in in the district. Karnataka with Central assistance: tb) Does not arise. (b) the total amount of assistance given tor the construction of these youth hostels: Silica From Paddy Husk. and 8600. SHRI A.K. ROY: Will the PRIME Cc) the places where youth hostels are MINISTER be pleased to state: proposed to be constructed during 1990 in Hassan district In Karnataka? (a) whether there is any technology for producing good quality silica from paddy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE husk; MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (b) if so, the details thereof: MEHTA): (a) One youth hostel has been constructed in Hassan town itself. (c) whether this technology has been put to commercial use anywhere in the (b) An amount of As. 27,57,573.00 lakh country; and has been released to CPWD for its construc- tion. An amount of Rs. 1.50 lakhs has also (d) if so, the details thereof? been paid to the State Government tor its furnishing. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- (c) There IS no such proposal. OGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON): (a) Yes. Sir, there. IS an indigenous technology for pro- Archaeological relics in Bastar Oistrict dUCing good silica from paddy husk ash. of Madhya Pradesh (b) The know-how for the manufacture 8599. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: of silica from paddy husk ash was devel- Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to oped by the Indian Institute of Technology, state: Kharagpur, and the same was assigned to the National Research Development Corpo- (a) whether a number ot archaeological ration (NRDC) for licensing the knOW-how to relICS In Bastar district of Madhya Pradesh interested entrepreneurs. are lying In a state of disrepair: and (c) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the details of the steps Govern- m~nt propose to take or has taken in this (d) NRDC has licensed on 11th June. 339 WritNn Answers MAY 14.1990 Written Answ.ts 340 1986. the know-how for production of pre- mooted out a plan to restructure the National cipitated silica for Paddy Husk Ash to MIs Wastelands Development Board; Unique Silica Development Pvt. Ud., Mehtab Road, Orissa. who have set up a commercial (b) if so, the broad features of this plan; ptant in Cuttack. The trial prod~ion in the and plant has begun in November, 1989. (c) the role envisaged for voluntary Cement Technology by RT; Kharagpur agencies at the management level? 8601. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the PRIME THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT MINISTER be pleased to state: AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). It has been decided (a) whether Government are aware of a that National Wastelands Development technology developed In the Indian Institute Board shall guide and oversee the Waste- of Technology, Kharagpur to produce ce- lands Development Programme and will ment from paddy husk: adopt a mission approach for enlisting people's participation, hamessing science (b) if so. the details thereof: and technology. and achieving inter-discipJi- nary coordination in programme planning (c) whether the technology was put Into and implementation. use to manufacturfi> cement anywhere in the country; and (c) Voluntary Agencies have been given representation in the management of the (d) if so. the results thereof? Board. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [Translation] MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI Plantation Along Roads. Railway Lines MEHTA): (a) and (b). Yes. Sir. The Indian etc. Institute of Technology, Kharagpur has developed nce husk based processes for 8603. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will special cement and for Silica products. The the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- cement process has been patented and given ESTS be pleased to refer to tne reply given to NRDC for commercial explOItation. on 9 April. 1990 to Unstarred Question No. 3970 regarding plantation on roads and state: (C) and (d). No company has yet taken the know how for cement. However, the Silica products have been commercialised (a) the total length of railway lines, by UnIQue Sihca Development In Cuttack. roads and canals, State-wise, and the length of railway lines, roads and canals where Restructuring of National Wastelands tree-planting has already been done along- Development Board side and the number of fruit trees among them: and 8602. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND (b) the time by which the process of FORESTS be pleased to state: planting fruit trees on both sides of the roads, railway lines and canals is likely to be (a) whether· the Government have completed? 341 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 342 THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT (b) if so, the details thereof; and AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) and (b). The required infor- (c) if not, the reasons therefor? mation is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- [English] VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): (a)to (c). According to information Clearance for Construction of Dam In furnished by the University Grants Commis- Raigad sion, the Commission has not received any notification issued by the Govt. of Maharash- 8604. SHRt A. R. ANTULAY: Will the tra about establishment of Dr. Babasaheb Minlsterof ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS Ambedkar Technological University at Lon- be pleased to state: era In Ralgad district. (a) whether Government are aware that Opening of Engineering College in constructIOn of a small dam for the supply of Maharashtra drinking water to Borfi-Panchatan and other surrounding areas of Shrivardhan T ehsll of 8606. SHRI A. A. ANTULA Y: Will the Ralgad district is pending for want of envi- PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: ronmental clearance; (a) whether Government have any pro- (b) if so. when the clearance is likely to posal to set up any Engineering College or be given by the Government: and any allied institutes for higher Technological education in the Konkan region of Mahar- (c) rf not. the reasons therefor? ashtra; THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT (b) if so, the details thereof; and AND FORESTS (SHAI NILAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) to (c). All hydel power (c) if not, how Government propose to prOjects and only the major Irrigation proJ- meet this long outstanding demand for set- ects are referred to the MInistry of Environ- ting up an Engineering College in the back- ment & Forests for environmental clearance. ward area of Konkan region of Maharash- The small dam project for supplYing drinking tra? water to Baril Panchatan, therefore, does not require environmental clear~l"ce. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI U.G.Cs Grants to Maharashtra Universi- MEHTA): (a) to (c). Maharashtra Govern- ties ment has set up a Babasaheb Ambedkar Technological University at Lonare in Konkan 8605. SHRI A.A. ANTUlAY: Will the Region which has started functioning from PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: June 1989 to cater to the demand in the backward areas of Konkan Region. Degree (a) whether Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar Course in Petrochemical Engineering has Technological Umverslty at Lonera in Ral- been started from June 1989. Besides this, gad district In Maharashtra has been the there is nc other proposal under considera- reCipient of UGC grants: tion. 343 Written Answers MAY 14.1990 Written Answers 344 Tum over of Electronic Industry try IS being encouraged. Approvals for a number of items have been 8607. SHRI RAMDAS SINGH. Will the decentrahsed to the level of State PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state Dis Investment limit for this sector has been revised to As. 35.0 lakhs (a) the present turn over of the elec- and that for ancillary units to Rs. troniC industry per year, 45.0lakhs (b) the steps taken by Government to e) In order.to achieve economies of promote the electronICS Industry, and scale In certain key areas, certain components whICh were reserved (C) the target fixed for the electronics for small scale sector have been Industry dUring 1990-91? de reserved THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE f) In almost all areas of electrOniCS, MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- excluding consumer electronICS, OGY (PROF M G K MENON) (a) The MRTP companies have been ex- productIOn of electroOic Industry In the coun- empt from clearance under section try dUring 1989-90 IS likely to be Rs 9210 21 and 22 of MRTP Act crores g) The private sector units are permit- (b) The steps taken by the Government ted to manufacture telephones to promote electronIC Industry are given In EPABX, teleprinters, faCSimile the statement gIVen below equipment. data communICatIOn terminals. etc In additIOn certain (c) Estimated productIOn of the elec- switching eqUipment below 2000 tronICS Industry dUring 1990-91 IS Rs 11950 lines and transmiSSIOn eqUipment crores below 120 VOice/data channels are also allowed In the private sector STATEMENT OthertelecommunlCaUon Items can also be taken up by the prIVate The followmg specthc polICy measures sector with CentrailState Govern- have been taken to promote the electronic ment partiCipatIOn of at least/per- Industry In the country cent equity shares a) For a number of categories. "broad- h) For computer Industry, the empha- basedR lICences are ISSUed SIS IS on the manufacture of com- puters based on latest technology b) The electronIC components Indus- at prlC9S comparable With Interna- try has been dehcensed tIOnal level and progressively in- creasing mdlQenlsatlOn consistent c) The Import of technology and for- with economic Viability eign collaboration are permitted In all areas of electrOniCs Units hav- I) A new software policy has been Ing foreign equity less than 40 announced to encourage produc- percent allowed In all areas tion and export of software d) Development of small scale Indus- J) Import duty on raw matenais. 345 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA> Written Answers 346 component and capital equipment Industrial UnHs causing Pollution In has been reduced. For component Andhra Pradesh industry. the duty or raw material, parts & semi-finished goods have 8608. SHRI B.N. REDDY: Will the been rationalised. Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: k) The import policy has been ration- (a> the number of cases of air and water alised with a view to increasing pollution by industrial units in Andhra Pradesh production. which have come to the notice of Govern- ment,during the last two years; and I) Government is promoting appro- priate applicatIOns of electronICs to (b) the steps taken by Government in improve productivity, equality, this regard? safety and quality of servIces. THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI m) Various project have been initIated ROUTRAY): (a) During the last two years the by the Technology Development Andhra Pradesh PollutIOn Control Board has Council, Nattonal Radar Council, identified 120 malar pollutIng industrial units. NatIonal Micro-electronics Council and Electronic MaterIals Develop- (b) Notices under Section 5 of the ment Council (EMDC) WIth a view EnVIronment (Protection) Act, 1986 have to promote innOvation, product been Issued against all the the 120 industrial deSIgn and development and tech- units. Out of these directions for closure nology development which are aH have been ISSUed to 56 Industrial units. basic for the growth of a healthy electronIcs Industry Polluted Ground Water 8609. SHRI B.N. REDDY: W,ll the n) Various research centres and labo- Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS ratones such as the Society for be pleased to state: Applied M,crowave Electronics Englneertng and Research, Na- (a) whether any study has been con- tional Centre for Software T echnol- ducted by the Centre of Science and Envi- ogy. Centre for Development of ronment, DeJhi to find out the number of Teiematlcs, Centre for Develop- villages in the country where villagers have ment of Advanced Computing been adversely affected by the polluted Technology, Centre for Matenals ground water: and for ElectronIcs Technology (CMET) for Development of Material and (b) if so, the details thereof? several ElectronIcs Research and Development Centres have been THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT setup to carry out R &D in well AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI identified areas, which is also a ROUTRAY): (a) A preli m inary study financed measure for development self reli- by the Union Ministry of Environment & ant industrial base. Forests has been undertaken by the Centre 347 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 348 for Science and Environment, Delhi on ROUTRAy): (a) and (b). Karappara Kuri- "Bichhri : A village In crisIs: A case study of arkutti hydel project submitted in 1979 was ground water polluhon~. rejeoted due to its adverse environmental impacts. The State authorities subsequently (b) The main objectives of the study agreed in 1989 to modify the proposal by are: incorporating the suggestions of an Expert Group constituted to study the water and I) to study the extent and serious- energy needs of Palghat region. No revision ness of the pollution of wells in the in the Pooyamkutty project has been sug- area: gested. ii) to predict the likely spread of pollu- (c) and (d).Yes, Sir. tion, and A report prepared on Karappara Kuri- IIi) to study the likely effects and arkutty project in 1982 showed that it will Implications of thiS pollution. Involve destruction of tropical rain forest and have adverse impact on the Parambikulam Two surveys have so far been carried sanctuary. Pooyamkutty project study shows out. According to the preliminary findings, that it will adversely affect the economy as the ground water of the region has been well as the environment in the region. found to be affected as a result of discharge of effluent from some industries located In [ Translation] Blchhri. Examination in CBSE Hydel Projects of Kerala 8611. SHRI RAMJllAlSUMAN: Will 8610. SHRI MULlAPPALlY RAMA- the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (a) whether the students of 10th class studying in Secondary Schools under Cen- (a) whether Umon Government have tral Board of Secondary Education have to Instructed the Kerala Government to submit qualify all the three science subjects sepa- revised proposal for Pooyarr,kutty, Karap- rately for getting through in the exam ination; para and Kunarkuttl hydel projects: (b) if so, whether Government propose (b) If so, the reasons for calling for the to ch.ange the existing system; and rpvlsed propo~als (c) if not, reasons therefor? (c) whether any on-the-spot study has been made by the MInistry of EnVironment & THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Forests on any of these proJects: and MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (d) If so. details at findings with regard MEHTA): (a) to (c). Under both the o\d and to possible effects on environment In each of new eSSE schemes for examinations in these cases 7 Science, students taking the 10th dass examination do not have to qualify in all the THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT three Science subjects separately for pass- AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ing the examination. 349 Written Answer.s VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 350 In the new eBSE scheme of studies for National Literacy Mission the 10th class Science is taught as an inte- grated subject comprising Physics Chemis- 8613. SHRI DlliP SINGH JUDEO: Will try and Life Sciences. Students have to the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: appear for only one Science paper at the 10 th class examination. (a) whether National Literacy Mission has introduced some new primers aimed at This new scheme of examination was making alterations in the existing programme introduced in the Kendriya Vidyalayas from with a view to making it more attractive and ""arch, 1990 examination and will be intro- efficient; duced in all other CBSE affiliated schools from the March, 1991 examination. (b) whether arrangements have been made to provide each State a separate set of [English] primers free so that the students car. make use of them whenevar they have time to CBI Report Against Secretaries and spare; Additional Secretaries (c) IT so, the number of such primers 8612. SHRIM V.CHANDRASHEKARA supplied to the Hindi-speaklOg States like MURTHY: Will the PRIME MINISTER be Madhya Pradesh so far: pleased to siate: (d) the number of people registered (a) whether Government have received With the above Mission so far since its incep- reports against some of the p'resent Secre- tion and that likely to be registered during the tanes and Additional Secretaries to Govern- current year: and ment of India from the CBI: (e) the broad outlines of the pro- (b) whether the CSI has sent different gramme chalked out for motivation? reports against individual officers for appro- priate action to different Ministries and de- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE partments of Government: MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (c) whether any follow-up .action has MEHTA): (a) Under the overall guidance of been taken in each and e'lery case: the National Literacy Mission Authority, new primers have been developed to improve the (d) if so, the facts thereof: and pace and content of learning. (e) what turther actIon IS being contem- {b) Under the Mass Programme of plated to ensure appropriate action? Functional Literacy. literacy kits are being provided free of cost since 1986 to the stu- THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- dents of universities, colleges and schools. WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) to (e). Report was received from the C.B.I in 1989 (c) The literacy kits are produced about certain transactions. In which the through the State Resource Centres (SRCs). conduct of an officer of thiS level was also the number of literacy kits which the SRCs in commented upon. The matter is under ex- the Hindi-speaking States have been asked amination of. Government. to prepare during 1990-91 for use under the 351 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 352 Mass programme of Functional Literacy is as under: 51. No. 5tatelUT No. of Leteracy Kits 1 2 3 1. Bihar 1,50,000 2 Haryana 24,000 3. Madhya Pradesh 80,000 4 Rajasthan 2,00,000 5 Uttar Pradesh 2,50,000 6 DeIhl 10,000 (d) The total number of persons who Instructor Prerak and the ProJect are reported 10 have been enrolled dunng officer who are dedicated and well 1988-89 and 1989-90 (Upto December, trained; 1989) are 85 23 lakhs and 84 56 lakhs re- spectively The number of persons enrolled IV) ImproVing the faCIlities at the adult In the current year IS likely to exceed last educatIon centres by providing year's number better lighting arrangements Im- proved teachlngllearnlng aids, etc., (e) The Central Issue In literacy IS motIvatIon of the learner as also of function- v) Creating through Jathas or cultural aries some of the specific steps taken In thiS caravans an environment Which IS direction are condUCive to literacy and which values literacy; I) ImprOVing the pace and quality of the programm'3 by adopting the VI) Providing an mstrtutlOnalframework new Integrated prrmer which would for post-literacy and contmulng Introduce a process of self-directed educatIOn through the Jana Shlk- learning and self-evaluatron to shan Nllayam. sustain motivation, VII) Use of motivational films/spots on II) Integrating In the Prrmers the the electrOniC media messages of health. family welfare and such other Issues as are of direct Interest to the lIves of the Efficiency Bar Cas8S learners, particularly of women, of SC and ST 8614 SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to UI) Selecting functIOnaries such as the state: 353 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) W,ittfm Answers 354 (a) whether instructions contained in Zonal Cultural Centres, the Government of memorandum No. 29014/2188-Est. (A) dated Tamil Nadu has given free of cost, Sangeetha 30 March, 1989 from the Department of Mahal, in the Palace Complex at Thanjavur Personnel regarding crossing of efficiency for locating the South Zone Cultural Centre. bar by Government servants are being fol- lowed by various Ministries of the Govern- (b) As originally envisaged, the Central ment; and Government has released its share of As. 5.00 crores to the South Zone Cultural Centre. (b) if so, reasons for not giving the In addition, the Central Government has benefit of these orders to employees whose also paid the Union Territories's share to- cases stand now finalised but t~e employ- wards the corpus fund. ees concerned were undergoing penalty at the time of issue of these orders? Anocatlon to Dadra and Nagar Hav." THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- 8616. SHRI MANIKRAO HODlYA WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) Yes, SIr. GAVIT: No Instance to the contrary has ben brought SHRI R.N. RAKESH: to the notice of this Department Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased (b) The provision for a review of the to state: Efficiency Bar cases with respect to the original recommendations kept In sealed (a) whether Government have not cover, where the diSCiplinary/criminal pro- allocated. released the share capital contri- ceedings end only In ~ minor penalty, has bution to the administration of Dadra and become effective from the date of Issue of Nagar Haveli consequently for the Second the O.M. dates 30.3.1989 and hence apply Budget year; prospectively. A case where the disciplinaryl criminal proceedings had already concluded (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and before that date and the Government ser- vant concerned is undergoing minor penalty, (c) the total amount likely to be released does not come within the purview of these and the time by which it will be released? Instructions. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Southern Regional CuHural Centre In MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER Thanjavur OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY or PRO- GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI 8615. SHRIS. SINGARAVADIVEl:WiII BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): (a) and (b). Share the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: capital contribution by the Administration of Dadra and Nagar Haveli relates to the Sugar (a) whether ther Southern RegIOnal Factory Project at Silvassa. In the Annual Cultural Centre In Thanjavur is still function- Plans of 1989-90 and 1990-91 token provi- ing without its own building; and sion was made pending detaj~ed considera- (b) if so, the steps being taken by the tion of the Project's viability. impact on envi- Government to develop this cultural centre? ronment and other related aspects. The decision to clear the Project has been taken THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE only recently. MlN1STRV OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT (SHRI CHIMANBHAI (c) The total amount likely to be re- MEHTA): (a) No Sir. Under the scheme of leased will be equivalent to the Union Terri- 355 Written Answers MAY 14, 1990 Written AnsWflIS 356 tory's Share of equity amounting to about students of G.B. Pant Agricu.lture University Rs. 8.00 crores. This will be made available have demanded that forestry education be in a phased manner. expanded on a national level and the exist- ing recruitment rules for posts in the Forest Reservation Policy Departments be amended; 8617. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA: (b) if so, whether Government have Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to considered their demands; state: (c) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether there is a general resent- ment, specially among students, against the (d) by what time the recruitment rules present reservation, policy of Government are likely to be amended? and extension of the reservation for another ten years; and THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (NILAMANI ROUTRAY): (b) if so, the steps taken or to be taken (a) Yes, Sir. to remove feelings a",ongst people on this matter and make surtable changes in the (b) to (d). Suitable amendments in policy? Recruitment/Examination Rules have al- ready been' made to make Forestry THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- gradutates eligible for appearing in Indian WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) and (b). Forest Service examination. Instructions Agitation against the present Reservation have also been issued in March, 1988 to all Policy of the Government of India was re- State Governments to take action to make ported in December. '989 in some part of forestry graduates eligible for recruitment to the country. State Forest Servica and Rangers cadres. They have also been asked to include for- The policy of reservation for Scheduled estry as one of the optional subjects for such Castes and Scheduled Tribes 10 service recruitment. under the Government of India flows from Constitutional provisions and has no tIme National Transport Safety Board limit. The reservatIon of seats in the Lok Sabha and State Vldhan Sabhas for Sched- 8621. SHRI K.S. RAO: Will the PRIME uled Castes and Scheduled Tribes has been MINISTER be pleased to state: extended for another 10 years by 63rd Amendment to the Constitution. There IS no (a) whether Government have recently proposal for change in the policy of the wound up the National Transport Safety Government. Board; Forestry Education (b) jf so, the reasons therefor; SHRI PRAKASH KOKO (c) whether the objectives for which the BRAHMBHATI: Will the Minister of ENVI- Board was set up have been achieved; and RONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to (d) if so, the details thereof? state: THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- (a) Whether forestry and agricultural WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. 357 Written Answers VAISAKHA24.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 358 (b) to (d). The National Transportation being discussed. Safety Board had been set up in 1987 with the main objective of bringing about im- (b) to (d). Does not arise provements in transport safety in the differ- ent transport sectors. During its tenure it Attendance in Punjab Government made many valuable suggestions to the Offices concerned transport ministries. 8623. BABA SUCHA SINGH: Will the A decision was taken to wind up the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Board as it was felt that it would be more appropriate if 1he sectoral safety organisa- (a) what is the average working hours of tions are adequately strengthened to achieve a Government servant in Punjab after de- the objectives instead of having a separate ducting all kinds of holidays and leave to organisation for the same purpose. This which a' Government servant in Punjab would also save the expenditure on such a Government is entitled and after considering full-fledged body. his normal unauthorised leave and absence; Environment Fund (b) the average number of Govemment servants not staying in their headquarters on 8622. SHRt KUSUMA KRISHNA working days and otherwise; MURTHY: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (c) the extent of private business or vocation undertaken by Government em- (a) whether there is a proposal to set up ployees, real or behami; an Environment Fund in place of the Planet Protection Fund mooted by the previous (d) the number of trade union or social Government; workers among govemment employees who are free from their duties; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor: (e) the steps taken or contemplated to (c) the broad objectives of the said fund minimise absenteeism amongst Government and the amount proposed to be allocated servants in Punjab and to enforce them? therefor; and THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- (d) whether Government placed for WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) to (e). Infor- discussion the above proposal before the matIOn is being collected and will be laid on Global Ecological Conference held in USA the Table of the House. recently? Pollution by Factories in Rajasthan THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI 8624. SHRI KAILASH MEGHWAl: Will ROUTRAY): (a) There IS no proposal to set the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND up an environment fund in place of the Planet FORESTS be pleased to state: Protection Fund through in the meetings of international fora the establishment of a (a) whether smoke, dust and water filth suitable funding mechanism to support the emitted by Lakshmi Cement, Jaykaypuram developing countries in switching over to in district Sirohi of Rajasthan and Hindustan substitutes of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) is Zinc Limited in Udaipur, Rajasthan have 359 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 360 been causind grave environmental pollu- (c) if no decision has yet been taken, at tion; what stage the matter stands and when a decision is likely to be taken? (b) If so, the remedial measures that have been adopted to contain this environ- PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- mental pollution; WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) to (c). The issue of reservation for women in certain (c) whether they have adequate waste appropriate vocations/services under the treatment systems; and Government is under examination. (d) if not, the action taken against these [Eng/ish) defaulting units? sciST Members in Planning Comml. THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT slon AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY): (a) The emiSSions and efflu- 8626. SHRI CHAND RAM: Will the ents from the Lakshml Cement In Jaykaypu- PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: ram and Hindustan Z,nc LImited In Udaipur have been above the prescribed standards. (a) whether any member of Scheduled Castes/Sceduled Tribes has been taken in (b) and (c) Lakshml Cement In the Planntng CommiSSIOn since the incep- Jaykaypuram and Hlndustan ZinC limited in tion of the Commission in 1951; UdaIpur have now Installed pollutIOn control deVices. The emiSSIOns and effluents are (b) whether Government propose to wlth,n the prescribed limits la,d down by the appoint a member from amonst these Castes Rajasthan State PollutIOn Control Board and or any of the Socially backward classes to at present there ,s no grave envIronmental the PlannIng CommIssIOn; and pollutIOn from these two Units (c) whether any suggestIOn has been (d) Does not anse received In thiS regard? [ Trans/arion] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Reservation of Jobs tor Women in MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER Government Service OF 5TATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PRO- GRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI 8625. SHRI MADHAVRAO SC iOIA: BHAGEY GOBARDHAN): (a) and (b). No Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to InformatIon as to how many members of SCI state: ST or belonging to SOCIally backward classes have been appotnted as Members. Planning (a) whether Government have consid- Commission, is readily available in the Plan- ered the questIOn of reservatIon of seats !n ning Commission. Members, Planning the Central CiVil ServICes and other All India Commission, are appointed on their individ- ServICes for women, ual eminence and expertise in one or the other area relevant to the Planning for socio- (b) If so, what deciSIOn has been taken, economic development, without reference In thIS regard: and to caste. 361 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 362 (c) Yes. Sir. Castes. Scheduled Tribes Officers in the posts of Additional Seaetaries. Joint Secre- SC/ST lAS Officers taries and Directors? 8627. SHRI CHAND RAM : Will the THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) The total number of lAS officers in the country as on (a) the total strenth of lAS Officers in the 1 .1.1990 is 4991. country; (b) The number of Scheduled Castes (b) the number of Scheduled Castes. Officers in position is 572 as on 1.1.1990 and Scheduled Tribes Officers in position and they form 11.5 per cent of the total strength. their percentage to the total strength; The total number of Scheduled Tribes Offi- cers in position as on 1.1.1990 is 280 and (c) the required number of Scheduled they form 5.6 per cent of the total strength. Castes and Scheduled Tribes Officers. as per the prescribed norms; (c) There is 15% reservation for the Scheduled Castes and 7 112 reservation for (d) the total number of Secretaries to the the Scheduled Tribes in the direct recruit- Government of India and the number out of ment..quota. them are from the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes: (d) The total number of Secretaries to Government of India is 46 and there are no (e) the number of Scheduled Castes. Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Scheduled Tribes officers in the posts of Officers from amongst them. Additional Secretaries, Jomt Secretaries and Directors in the Governm'ent of India in the lAS Cadre and also those belonging to Non- (e) The total number of Additional Sec- Scheduled Castes and Tribes: and retaries, Joint Secretaries and Directors and the number of Scheduled CasteslSched- (t) the steps Government are taking to uled Tribes officers from the I.A.S. is given in give full representation to the Scheduled the table below:- Level of post Total number Of them belonging to as on 30.4.90 Scheduled Scheduled Others Castes Tribes 2 3 4 5 Additional Secretaries 38 38 Joint Secretaries 171 6· 164 Directors 1 1 0 12 4 94 (1) The posts of Additional Secretary. Joint Secretary and Director in the Govern- 363 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written Answers 364 ment of India are filled by borroWIng officers ecological balance with an objec- from Ali-India Services and partICipating tlvetO:- Group 'A' organised ServICes of the Central Government under the Central Staffing * check land degradatIOn Scheme All offICers are on deputatIOn from their parent Service for prescribed tenures put wastelands to sustainable use Denudation of Forests Increase bIOmass availability 8628 SHRIJANARDHANAPOOJARY specially fuelwoodlfodder; and Will the MInister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state Restore ecologICal balance. (a) whether one of the reasons for denudatIOn of torests IS demand tor 235 Science Industry Consortium on Bio- mllhon cubiC metres of firewood against a Technology productIOn of 40 million cubic metres. and 9629 SHRI Y S RAJA SEKHAR (b) If so, the steps Government are REDDY Will the PRIME MINISTER be taking to Increase productIOn of firewood pleased to state and at the same time save the forests? (a) whether sCience Industry Consor- tium on BIC-technology IS likely to become THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT operational shortly, and AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI ROUTRAY) (a) Yes. Sir (b) If so, the deta:ls thereof? (b) The Government IS taking folloWing steps to Increase production of firewood and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to save the forest MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOL- OGY (PROF M G K MENON) (a) and (b) Yes, Sir The Department of Biotechnology Alte, native sources of energy are has taken the Initiative to set up a SCience encouraged to replace fuelwood In Industry Consortium In the country In blo- domestic and commerCial sectors technogy The eXisting SCientifiC infrastruc- ture, academia, Industry and finanCial insti- 2 Accent on SOCial Forestry and tutions would be associated With thiS activity Wasteland Development to pro- The detailed scope of work, programme Vide altprnatlve source of fuel, fod- content, organisational structure, manage- der and timber to rural communi- ment strategies and operational details are ties being defined An Inventory of Industries and Fmanclallnstltutlons who would particI- 3 National Wasteland Development pate In thiS activity IS under preparation It IS Board has been set up as a nodal expected to start the Project sometime by agency for Implementation of August-September, 1990 The maIn thrust wasteland Development pro- would be on product and process develop- gramme by reforestation of de- ment and Improvement, related R&D as- graded land and restoration of pects and training of people 365 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 366 Posting of Airmen and Non-Combat- thiS land had been obtained by MInistry of ants Envlroment and Forests, 8630 SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA· (e) If not, the reasons therefor; and win the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state. (f) whether Government propose to review such cases where clearance has (a) the number of airmen and non- already been gIVen, and combatants meant for Air Force Units held In Air Headquarters In excess of sanctioned (g) If so, the details thereof? strength, THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT (b) whetherthls IS permissible under the AND FORESTS (SHRI NILAMANI rules and regulatlors and ROUTRAY) (a) to (c) Deihl Development Authorrty has Informed that an area of 1134 (c) If not, the reasons for which they are acres has been acqUired for planned devel- not given their proper postlngs? opment of Narela Township and that no standing trees have been uprooted In thiS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE area MlNISTRY OF DEFENCE (DR RAJA RAMANNA) (a) The number of airmen and (d) to (g) According to Deihl Develop- non-combatants held In Air HQrs In excess ment Authority. the land acquired by them IS of sanctlofled strength IS 98 and 91 respec- not forest land and hence no clearance for tively acquiSition of thiS land was obtained from the MInistry of EnVironment and Forests (b) Yes, Sir Research and Development Expendi- (c) Does not anse ture Rooting out of Trees In Narela, Deihl 8632 SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to 8631 PROF VIJAY KUMAR state MALHOTRA Will the Minister of ENVIRON- MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state (a) whether the research and devlop- ment expendrture of Government In the in- (a) whethera large areaof land In Narela dustrial sector IS not adequate enough to region has been acqUired for planned devel raise productlvrty In Industnes opment of Narel"i Township and standing trees are being rooted out there (b) If so, whether Government has Since taken or proposed to take any steps to spend (b) If so, whether Government Intend to more on research and development work conduct a spot survey Of thiS area to look Into and Improve productlvrty, and the felling of trees (c) If so, the details thereof? (c) If so by when such action IS likely to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE betaken MINISTRY OF 5CIENCE AND TECHNOL- OGY (PROF M G K MENON) (a) to (c) (d) whether clearance for acquIsition of Nearly 80% of the R&D expenditure In the 367 Writt9n AnSMHS MAY 14,1990 Written AnsW9/S 368 country is incurred by Govemment through (b) if so, percentage of the present its major research organisations with their expenditure on R&D to the Gross Natioal chains of laboratories. Some of these re- Product; and search and development activities relate to the industrial sector. Around 20% of the (c) the steps being taken to raise the national R&D expenditure is incurred by level of technology in the country by raising industry. R&D in industry by industry is of the percentage of research and develop- recent origin in India and has been increas- ment expenditure? ing gradually. New initiatives and effforts have been made to establish close linkages TliE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE between R&D institutions, academic sector MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND and industry through various mechanisms. TECHNOLOGY (PROF. M.G.K. MENON) This is to ensure that R&D work becomes (a) The current expenditure by the private increasingly relevant to practical problems seeloron R&D is around 20% of the national and is made use of effectively to improve R&D expenditure; the expenditure incurred industrial performance. by over 1200 in-houses R&D units recog- nised by the Department of Scientific and The Department of Scientific and Indus- Industrial Research (Ministry of Science and trial Research (PSIR) in the Ministry of Sci- Technology) on R&D is about 0.7% of their ence and Technology has a scheme for sales turnover. In industrially advanced recognition of In-house R&C centres in in- countries the R7D expenditure incurred in dustry. Currently there are over 1200 in- industry is around 70% of the national R&D house R&D units in industry which have a expenditure; further the R&D expenditure by valid recognition from DSIR To encourage the industrial units as percentage of their R&D in industries, Government has taken sales turnover is around 4% and it is even several measures which include: presenting larger in high technology areas like electron- awards in recognition of the achievements in ics, computers, pharmaceuticals and aero- industrial R&D; preferential treatment In li- space. In the l;ght of this the present expen- censing of industries including MRTP com- diture by the private sector on R&D and panies, based on indigenous technology; related S& T activities must be regarded as fiscal incentives for expenditure incurred on inadequate. scientihc research and utilisation of indige- nous technology. tt must be stated, however, that a large number of inventions and innovations made Expenditure on Research and Develop- by industries in India have been utilised in ment industries for import substitution of materials orcomponent, absorption of certain imported 8633. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: technolgies and upscaling and commercial- Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to ising of certain technologies. state: (b) The percentage of present expendi- (a) whether the present expenditure by ture on R& 0 to the Gross National Product is the private sector on research and develop- over 1% of which around 0.2% is contributed ment (R&D) and other related science and by the private sector. technology activities is not adequate and has not made any Significant contribution (c) R&D in industry by industry is of towards productivity; recent origin in India, and it has been in- 369 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 370 creasing in recent years. In recognition of the to get some assistance in containing price need for this, Government has evolved rise in India from what you have got from measures such as: encouraging and recog- Washington? njsing establishment of In-house. R&D units in industries; encouraging establishment of PROF. P.J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): h is new enterprises using technology developed not that this concern has been expressed indigenously; providing suppOrt to consul- from our side only. You should be aware that tancy organisations and systems engineer- BJP which is a supporter of the Government ing with a view to assisting enterprises to from outside, is also agitated over this. The commercialize technologies developed indi- left parties also did the same thing. Today genously and providing support to pro- more than 20 million people are on the grammes undertaken in the industries for agitation path. We would lik to know specifi- absorption of imported technology. Govern- cally what action Government is going to ment would like to see a higher percentage take in this regard. The Finance Minister is of expediture on R&D by industry and its here. He should come forward with a state- meaningful application to Improve produc- ment as to what action he is going to take to tivity and develop new technologies. curb price rise. You should also be aware that a discussion was held here under Rule 12.00 hrs. 193. All that discussion has gone into deaf ears. And he did not reply to that discussion. [English] Therefore, now we would like to know what the Finance Minister has to say on the ques- SHRI VASANT SATHE (Wardha): As tion of price rise. you are aware aware, in spite of repeated promises being given from the highest au- SHR AJIT PANJA (Calcutta North East): thorities in the Government-the Prime Besides other essential commodities, the Minister, the Finance Minister and every- price rise of all commodities is almost be- body-the prices of essential commodities yond the reach of the ordinary man. In Cal- are still rising. There is an agitation going on cutta, the price of the salt has become Rs. 2 in the entire country. In all the districts of the a Kg:, in Maida it is Rs. 2.80 and in Caoch country, more than 20 lakh people are pro· Behar it has gone up to Rs. 3 to Rs. 3.50 testing, domonstrating and presentng (Interruptions). You are not concerned about memoranda today. That has been so here it, I know. You are not concerned about the also. More than 50,000 people are demon- poor people. strating out in Delhi. A memorandum wiH be presented to you, SIr. I would submit that the Sir, immediately neccsary supplies be Government should take this matter very made to Bengal. The supplies of iodized salt seriously. It is a question not only concerning have to be made quickly. Everyday The one side but the entire Parliament and the Minister there says that no salt is required. entire country. And some of our friends are But the price of salt is so much high that the also worked up on the question of price rise. common man is suffering. So, immediCltely But when they come over here, they take a the Government should take some steps. different stand. I hope, at least as far as price rise is concerned, the entire Parliament will express its concern. We would like to know SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- the reaction of the Government. The Fi- lem): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was always under nance. Minister is here. He must teil us what the impression, and I stin hold the opinion, he has brought from outside. Are you going that our Finance Minister, Prof. Madhu 371 Written AnsWBts MAY 14,1990 Written Answets 372 Dandavate claims to be a socialISt .. (Inter- ( Intemlptions) ruptions). MR. SPEAKER: I have called Mr. Vijay PROF. P.J KURIEN: Claims to be. Kumar Malhotra to raise some other issue .. SHRI . P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: [ TninslationJ Yes, claims to be. But unfortunately, when the dISCussIOn under rule 193 was taking He is on his legs. place, he conveniently was absent and was In a very--shall we call It a soclahst natIOn, (Interruptions) according to him? (InterruptIOns). SHRI KALP NATH RAI (Ghosi): Mr. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF SpElaker, Sir, there IS unprecedented trend MADHU DANDAVATE Conveniently ab- In rise at prices (InteffuptlOns) sent? [English] SHRI P R KUMARAMANGALAM Conveniently absent. I repeat I would hke to MR SPEAKER It will be done tomor- say that when there IS a natIOn-wide agita- row I am not preventing him He IS very tion gOing on, the pnce rise has gone out of much there control, we have reached double-citglt Infla- tion, things are becoming dearer and dearer, ( InterruptIOns) salt IS becoming as valuable as any other commodity, he must have a reactIOn. He IS SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU stili sitting coolly, without even being both- (Balasore)' I am on a POint of order, ered. and hearing wit" the headphone on Is S.r (InteffuptlOns) not he gOing to react to thiS, Sir? Can I plead with you to ask !-lIm to react? What IS thiS MR SPEAKER Let us hear the point of system? Fourof us have now mentIOned and order of Mr. Kundu he IS stili sitting qUietly Is he gOing to reply to the diSCUSSion under rule 193 today? When ( InterruptIOns) IS he gOing to make the statement? How IS he gOIng to make the statement? We want Mr SPEAKER Let us hear "IS pomt of some reactIon from him now order MR SPEAKER Yes, Shn VIJay Kumar ( InteffuptlOns) Malhotra .. , .. MR. SPEAKER' Please take your seat, ( InterruptIOns) Mr Kundu. Let us hear the Finance MInister PROF P J. KURIEN. He should make a ( InteffuptlOns) statement, Sir PROF MADHU DANDAVATE It IS al- HRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU The POint ready listed for tOMorrow of order must be heard first, whether It IS the Fnance Minister or the Prime MInister or MR. SPEAKER He IS replYing tomor- whoever he may be. The POint of order must row get precedence 373 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Written AnsWBIS 374 MA. SPEAKER: Yes. what is your point since I was going for an urgent work regard- of order?. ing the IMF and World Bank meeting. I sought the permission of the house to allow ( Interruptions) me to reply to the debate on my return and the entire House said that they would carry [ Translation] on the discussion. MR. SPEAKER: He is an a point of order PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): Who would say 'No' to Madhuji? ( Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Exactly [Eng/ish) there are friends like you who are bound to resp6nd. (Interruptions) As a result. it was MR. SPEAKER: The poInt of order agreed that date should be fixed by the hon. should get precedence. Speaker. Now. as soon as I came back this early morning. I saw the business agenda for SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU: Sir. we tomorrow. Tomorrow. the reply is already are all grateful to you that you brought cer- listed .and I will take cognisance of every tain discipline to the Zero Hour, and for Zero point of view that the hon. Members have Hour you rightly said that everybody should raised. (Interruptions) give a notice and those who gIve a notice. you will call them. But in the garb of notIce, a PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: In the mean- chorus is there. One after the other. one after time, the prices have gone up further. Who is the other .. (lnterruptlons) responsible for that? MR. SPEAKER: You have made your PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: So. Sir. point. Take your seat. Yes, Mr. Madhu I will give the reply tomorrow. I will only want Dandavate .. to tell you that I don't want to rub in the wrong way when Mr. Kumaramangalam said that I ( Interruptions) had conveniently gone out. I had gone out with the permission of the House and also MR. SPEAKER You have made your with the assurance that when I come back I point, Mr. Kundu. Please take your seaL. would reply to the debate. I assur~ the House that I am replying to the debate tommorrow ( Interruptions) at 3 G)'CIock. You have fortunately listed it in the agenda for tomorrow. MR. SPEAKER: I am now calling upon the MinIster. .. SHRI P.R. KUMAAAMANGALAM: It is to suit your convenience and that is what I ( Interruptions) meant. You shoud not misunderstand me. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. [Translation) Speaker. Sir, you may recall that after the dscussion on the price rise had already PROF. VIJAYKUMARMAlHOTRA:Mr. started. actllally the reply was also listed and Speaker. Sir, through you, I would like to I was to reply to the discussion. But many draw the attention of the august House to the han. Members said that they still wanted to news appearing in the newspaper today that speak. So. I got up and made a request that the army of Pakistan has moved closer to the 375 Written Answwns MAY 14.1990 Written Answers 376 Indian border. Through electronic and print [Translation] media In Pakistan a lot of vile propaganda is being done. They have not dosed trainmg SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South centres where training is being imparted to Delhi): Mr. Speaker. Sir. if lam not mistaken, the terrorists and these are being run even about 5-6 days ago, a statement was issued today. People are coming to India after tak- by the Govemnent that it would destroy the Ing training from there. The newspapers traming centres of terronsts in Pakistan. This publish advertisements for recruitment of statement was given by an official spokes- volunteers to liberate Kashmir. Volunteers man and today the hon. Minister of External are being recruited for thiS purpose. The AffairS has stated something entirely differ- Simla Agreement IS also being violated. When ent. (/ntemlptions) the Hon. Prime Minister issued a warntng to Pakistan, It made a detenng Impact on SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN TIWARI (00- Pakistan But headhnes of teday's newspa- managanJ): Mr. Speaker. SIr, as stated by pers are that the hon Minister of External hon. member Prof. ViJay Kumar Malhotra, It Affairs, Shn GUJral has stated that India Will has been reported n the teday's newspapers not take any action nor. has It any mtentlOns that a large number of Pakistani tank"s have to destroy the tralnng centres where training been deployed along the internatIOnal bor- IS being Imparted to terrOrists I would hke to der near chhamb area and other prepara- tell the H()n Prtme Minister that Insplte oft he tions are also beIng made there Besides, negotiations held between the External Af- several provocative statements were also fairS Mlntster of both the countries In U.S.A., Issued by the Government of Pakistan. It is the situatIOn IS getting tense because the a senous matter and related to the the secu- army of Pakistan moving towards the bor- ntyof India. Therefore, through you, I would der, the provIsions of the Simla Agreement like to make a demand that the Han. PrilTlQ are being Violated everyday and teronst train- Minister should give a statement In the House Ing centres are being run h IS a very danger- In thiS regard ous situation that on one Side Pakistan IS being warned and on the other our MInister [English] tor External Affairs IS ISSUing statement that action Will not, be taken If such actiVities SHRI MANIK SANYAl (Jalpalguri): Sir, continue In Pakistan, India Will have to take I would Itke to draw the attention of the Home some steps I would like to tell the Hon Pnme MInister, through you, regarding the serIOus Minister that the entire coutnry should be problem that has ansen In the dlstncts of taken Into confidence and people should be Jalp~lQun and Coochbehar by the activities ,nformed about the steps the Government IS of BSF. The Border Security Force for some gOing to take against such actiVities of Paki- time part have let loose oppression and stan repression on the people hVlng In the border area between India and Bangladesh along the entire border regIon of Jalpalgurl and [English] Coochbehar districts on different pretexts. Sir, I would like to mention here that on PROF. N G RANGA (Guntur): Sir, we 10th April an incIdent took place at Salmara also agree with our fnend. We would hke the Village under Coochbehar distnct. The BSF Defence Minister as well as the Pnme MiniS- personnel have shot dead Shri Ramani Kanta ter to take note of that and then try to give a Barman. a panchayat member of CPI(M), reply In thiS House as soon as poSSible and one of his relatIVes, Shri Bhutua Bar- 377 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 378 man, at his residence. They are putting all SHRI NANDU THAPA (Sikkim): Sir, I kinds of hindrance in the inquiry conducter would like to draw the attention of the Gov- by the West Bengal Police by threatening the ernment and the han. Members of this House, local police officers. Even they threaten the through you, to a news item published in The villagers with fire consequences if they dare Times of India dated 13th May 1990. regard- appear with here in the instent case. This ing the infamous poacher, killer, smuggler has created a very serious problem through- Veerappan, India's most blood-thirsty hunter out the border area. of our times. I demand adequate compensation to be "Mr. Veerappan is a poacher, smug- paid by the Government to the deceased gler, murderer. Veerappan, who started family as well as I demand that the culprits out as a small-time hood two decades should be punished and the 86th Battalion of ago, is today a terror in the villages BSF should be shifted from there. This is f'1Y along the Tamil Nadu-Karnataka bor- request to the Home Minister. der. In this period, he is said to have killed some BOO elephants for ivory, SHRI YADVENDRA DATI (Jaunpur): smuggled tonnes of sandalwood and Sir, as my friend, Malhotraji, has just said, ruthlessly done away with all the offi- Pakistan armies are on our borders and Sir, cials who dared to resist hiS plunders." With the defence of our Air Force Officers concerned are plaYing drucks and drakes. MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude. Mirage has been inducted in the Indian Air Force. For three years that plane has no SHRI NANDU THAPA: I am concluding. armament, no guns, no cluster bombs and It further says: there were no missiles in that plane. It was flying harmless. The danger to the life of the "Veerappan was said to enjoy the pilots and the danger to the security of the support of not only the local people- nRtlon is there. After three years the Indian whom he pampered with largesse- Air Force woke up and they bought some but also 01 the iorest officials, police- armament. In this gap of three years, the men and politicians. Forest guards armament bought had become more expen- drank and dines With him, policemen sive and the nation was put to a loss of Rs. connived with him, and politicians 37.39 lakhs. Who IS responsible for this sought his help during elections." Irresponsiblity, who IS playing drucks and drakes with the National Defence? Why this So, I want the Central Government to take a lapse in our security? I would like the Minis- serious note of this. I also want both the ter of Defence, when he answers the ques- Ministry of Home Affairs and the Ministry of tion raised by myfriend, Mr. Malhotra, to also Environment and Forests to take action to look into this and give an explicit assurance protect the animals which have become to this House that all our armaments, all our extinct in these areas. ammunition, are upto date and not out of date and everything IS fit and this drucks and SHRI BHABANI SHANKAR HOTA drakes business will be stopped. There (Sambalpur): Sir, due to dbvastating floods should be an inqUiry to fmd out who is re- in Andhra Pradesh, about 500 people have sponsible for thiS terrible mistake or the died and the C'3ntral Government has taken lapse of security of the nation and the secu- effective steps to mitigate the sufferings of rity of our pilots. The persons responsible for the people. The Prime Mnister has also it should be punished. visited Andhra Pradesh. But in Ganjam dis- 379 Written AnswelS MAY 14,1990 Wntten AnsW81S 380 tnct of Onssa, flash floods have damaged Latif Ahmed Khan was wounded and he was the standing crops severed the telecommu- taken to TaraNlwas by the CRPF people. He nication hnks and the roads have also been was made to bleed to death. (/nte"uptlOns) damaged power hnes have been disrupted Yes; I have venfled In border areas, people and about 50 Villages In Digapahandl and are In diffICulty because of brutality In Un Sankhemundl blocks of GanJam district have sector, from 10 VIllages people have crossed been aHected The Villages of Guma, Jal- overto Pakistan I wantthe Pnme MinISter to mora and Faslguda are totally submerged respond to the situation, to what IS happen- under the flood water Due to unabated Ing In Kashmir heavy rains for the past two days, normallrte has been thrown out of gear In Koraput [Trans/atlon ] district ThiS IS the Impact of the heavy cy- cloniC storm over the Bay of Bengal So, I SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHARY (Gaya) urge upon the Central Government to send Mr Speaker, Sir, the Budget session IS gOing a Central team to (he affected areas to to be over IS a tew days When we meet assess the damage caused to the crops again, we Will diSCUSS about the devastation pnvate and Government bUildings telephone of floods to be occurred In various parts, lines and grant adequate sum from the causing loss of life and property of the people Central Government Therefore, I would like to draw your attention to Bihar where lSamla Balan, KOSI, Gandak, PROF SAIF-UO-OIN SOZ (Ba- Ganga, Punpun, Sone and rts tnbutnes Will ramulla) Sir I returned from Snnagar only overflow and cause large scale devastation the other day I saw a situaton of siege laid and loss of life and property It Will also cause by the administration there I saw a Situation SOIl erosion at a large scale and crops are which IS not acceptable to me (lnterrup also damaged I would like to draw the atten- t,ons) I am making a balanced statement tion of the Government to the river Phalgu In Kindly listen to me The situation was cre Gaya ThiS river IS a rain-fed river DUring the ated by the local administration there It IS rainy season when It IS In spate. It causes SOIl not my proposrtlon that they should not deal erosion Gradually thiS river dries up and with the militants they should deal with them water recedes ;as result of which agriculture I saw three or four Situations myself On the work IS affected and problem of dnnklng 9th of thiS month para-vlllltary forces opened water arises Therefore I would like to make fire at two places In which 8 Innocent people a demand that dam should be constructed were killed and 12 wounded On 10th of May, on river Phalgu so that rain water does not one Mr Latif Ahmed Khan was fired upon go waste and water for Irrigation and drinking purposes IS preserved Gaya IS a place of [TranslatIon] International fame, so special attention should be given to It A diSCUSSion was held In AN HaN MEMBER That militant was regard to the flood situation It IS a Issue of killed (InterruptIons) national Interest Since Flood Control Com- mlssfon has been reduced to a white ele- [English] phant, therefore, I would like to make a demand that a diSCUSSion should be held In time about the achievements of Flood Con~ PROF SAIF-UO-OIN SOZ No not at trol CommisSion and the actIOns that are all I am makng a statement and they should gOing to be taken In thiS regard I have given have some respect for My statement They a notice under Rule 193 and I seek and were Innocent people On 10th of May, Mr opportunity to diSCUSS It In the House 381 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 382 SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI the worst affected State. As many as 480 (Rewa): On the one hand the House is people had died and property worth Rs. concerned about the concentration of Paki- 1 ,000 crores has been damaged and Rs. stani tanks on the borders which is causing 500 crores worth of sta~ng crops and gar- a great threat to our country, while on the den crop, everything has been damaged. other hand major part of the country is facing an acute problem of drinking water. What a The Prime Mnister was kind enough to paradox! We areiaced with a foreign chal- visit the area. But the announcement he has lenge but we can't even provide drinking made is only of Rs. 34 crores which is a water to the people in our country. The major pittance, in view of the colossal toss and parts of the States like Madhya Pradesh there is no drinking water. Hundreds of vil- Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Rajasthan and Gujarat lages are now marooned and about 10 heli- are facing acute drinking water problem. captors are flYing around to give food. The Innumerable animals have perished due to Finance Minister is here. Therefore he must the non-availability of drinking water. I re- announce greater relief. Rs. 34 crOres is not turned from my constituency only today. In sufficient as the State would not be able to Rewa dstrict people residing in Villages have give anything. In Guntur alone, 200 people abandoned their cattle in forest feeling that had died. Therefore. The Government must they cannot give them water. In this manner come out with liberal assistance. innumerable animals are dying due to the water scarcltv People are fleeing the Vil- [Translation] lages with their clliidren and families so that they may settle at a place where water IS SHRI M. SAGA REDDY (Medhak): Mr. available. people are forced to drink polluted Speaker, Sir, the han. Prime Minister re- water from the nullahs and as a result of they cently visited Andhra Pradesh. Karnataka are afflicted by the diseases like Jaundice and Tamil Nadu. And there. paiticularly in the and blood cancer. In Rewa alone about 20 coastal area of Andhra Pradesh he saw the tt-,ousand people have been affected by destruction brought about by the cyclonic Jaundice. A team of leMR constituted by the storm .. Central Government visited the area and submitted the report that epidemc of Jaun- MR SPEAKER: Reddy ji speaks very dice has been speadlng due to the non- good Hindi. availability of water and drtnklng of polluted water. Therefore, I would like to urge the Central Government and the han. Prime SHRI M. BAGA REDDY: He has seen Minister to pay attention to thiS ssue by the destruction. I hOf.)e that he would give a intervening in the matter and making ar- statement in the House today in this regard. rangements for adequate funds to enable He has sanctioned Rs. 34 crores from the the State Governments to provide drinking funds available under the plan. He has water. deputed a team but it will take 15 days or a month for them to submit theri report. Mr. [English] Speaker, Sir, this problem requires an im- mediate solution in order to provide them immediate help. If the committtee takes long SHRI P. NARSA REDDY: (Adilabad): to submit their report more lives would be Sir. there has been very big cyclone hitting lost. Therefore my submission is that the the three States. namely Tamil Nadu, Andhra han. Minister of Finance should give reply at Pradesh and Orissa. Out of these, Andhra is the earliest in this regard. (Interruptions) 383 Written Answers MAY 14,1990 Written AnswelS 384 [Eng/ish] tem in Delhi is going from bad to worse. I would like to give only a few examples in this PROF. P.J. KURIEN: What has been regard. Where should the Delhites go? I am raised by Shri p. Narsa Reddy and Shri submitting this since Delhi has not been Baga Reddy is very important the issue of declared a State. Two years back the total loss of more than 400 lives and thousands of number of buses in Delhi was 5587 which crores of rupees. Whatever assistance has now reduced to only 500.(/nt9nvptions) been glven-Rs. 34 crores-Is only a pit- tance. Since the Finance MInister is here SHRI P.J. KURIEN: Many people have and he is listening to thiS, why don't you ask died there. We should support it and provide him to respond? Are you not concerned relief to the people. let the hon. Minister say aboUt it? I am only saying that Govern'TIent something. also shoJld be concerned about It let the Finance Mlnrster say something here and let [English] hm enhance the assistance already given. MR. SPEAKER Shn YuvraJ IS also Let the hon. MInister say somethmg. supporting thiS MR. SPEAKER: The entire House knows [Translation] the distress of the people of Andhra Pradesh. SHRI YUVRAJ (Katihar): Mr. Speaker, [Translation 1 Sir, In thiS context I would like to submit that the destruction caused by the cycloniC storm SHRI MADAN LAl KHURANA: My In Andhra has effected Tamil Nadu and subm ISSln is that the number of buses which Pondlchery too. It has not only taken about was 5587 two years back has reduced to 450 lives but about 50 lakh people have 5000 whereas the number should have in- been affected and more than one lakh cattle creased to 7000 as per the Eighth Five Year have perished Besides. there IS an acute Plan. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the DTC employees drtnklng water problem Food packets are have started an agrtaton against the non- being thrown by hei1copters but the scarcity Implementation of the Fourth Pay Commis- of drtnktng water IS so acute that 30 tankers sIon's report. Their demands are not being have been sent from Hyderabad The sea fulfilled. The management wrich runs the water has spread on all Sides the water of organisation IS Just like a Mafia gang. It IS wells has also become saline Thus my surprising that the tICkets gIVen t~ the com- submiSSion IS that a committee of the Mem- muters In the prtvate buses operated under bers of the House should be constituted Mr DTC had slogans at their back-vote, sup- Speaker, Sir, the Government follows its port and elect Congress (I). This was before own procedure. ThiS has happened several the elections. I complained about It. But the times In South India. but the M P's Commrt- practice continues even after the new Gov- tee has never been constituted They should ernment came to power. On my complaint make the assessment and propose what those buses were withdrawn but only 5-7 measures should be taken by the Govern- buses had to face the music whereas the ment so that loss of life and property may be officials who were at the back 01 thiS propa- averted and adequate rehef can be provided ganda have been active in their activities and to the affected people trYing to malign the new Government even today. They are responsible for the bad bus SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA {South service in Delhi. DTC has been suffering a Delhi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the transport sys- record deficit, and despite that the Produc- 385 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 386 tivity Council have honoured them with the the revered Shankaracharya on the issue of best award. My submission is that the Gov- laying the foundation stone at Ayodhya. A ernment should take actn against the Mafia person named Gyan Devof Hindu Shakti Dal gang active in DTC which has ruined the informed the Government that of they did not entire bus service. Irregularities in DTC release the Shankaracharya he would com- should be investigated and DTC should be mit ~elf-immolation. when the Shankara- freed from clutches of the Ma1ia gang. charya was not released, a platform was raised near a police station and thousands of [Eng/ish] people came to witness the self immolation by that youth. A funeral pyre was laid there, SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE kerosene and petrol were sprinkled to make. (Dumdum): That is why, they have lost the arrangements for immolation. But it is a elections. Why do you complain? This IS a matter of regret that police stood as a silent kind of action which led to their over-throw. spectator. When a few persons asked why ( Interruptions) they did not arrest the youngman so that his life could be saved. the police officials re- SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA (Bolangir): plied that unless he committed the crime of Sir, there is only one express train known as self-immolation they could not arrest him. Samleshwari Express which runs between Mr. Speaker, Sir, In this manner the young Howrah and Sambalpur in Orisssa. In this man Gyan Dev immolated himself in the very train, people of Bolangir, Kalahandl, Sam- presence of the police. He was not even balpur and Sundargarh travel up to Calcutta. permitted to be arrested so that his life could ( Interruptions) be saved. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Charles, I have not The youth was taken to the hospital permitted you. after he got burnt and it is a matter of grief that he dies yesterday. It shows the inactive- ness of the Centre and the State Govern- ments that a person immolates himself like SHRI BAt.GOPAL MISHRA: Usually this. The Government should give a state- most of the pasengers are businessmen and ment In the House, clarifying its policy and they move with heavy cash. In the last one steps to be taken in such matters. Mr. month, there have- already been three Speaker, Sir, you might be remembering dacoities in this train near about T ata. This that some time ago, in Andhra Pradesh, a train never reaches its destination In time. person named Shri Ramlu undertoo" fast This is the only express train. I had earlier unto-death and later he died. This inCident also raised this mattter about the late run- created grave situations. There is every ning of this train in the House and I am possibility of the situation becoming explo- repeating it. I request the Government to sive this time also. So, the Government take note of it and take steps for the safety of should clearly define its policy in the House life and property of the travelling passengers In this regard. and extend this train up to Bolangir. (In- temuptions) SHRI JAG PAL SINGH (Hardwarr Mr. Speaker, Sir, the elections of M.L.C. are [ Translation] being held in the entire Uttar Pradesh. Our Congress Party is also contesting the elec- SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombay North): Mr. tions. But I would like to draw the attention of Speaker, Sir. Government dared to arrest the Government through you that the voters 387 Written Answers MAY 14.1990 Written Answers 388 are being arrested on the orders of bureauc- SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : May be. racy in the entire Uttar Pradesh. This is violation of the rules. This is a kind of interfer- SHRI V ASANT SATHE: That also should ence in the electoral process. I would like to be looked into. demand from the Government that it should direct the Election Commission. to ensure SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: So you are that no voter is arrested in Uttar Pradesh. If fighting for them. this has been done anywhere. they should be immediately released so thatthere can be SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: fair elections .. (Inteffuptions) That'only shows that in the enquiry the help of Shri Vasant Sathe and Shri Ajit Panja MR. SPEAKER: You made your point. might also. be taken. They know, they are Please take your seat. Informed about it. (Interruptions) [English] SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Yes, you are their agents. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): The Central Government has received a ( Interruptions) very alarm ing news from the Just concluded conference of Anand Margls In Manila and MR SPEAKER: Now please conclude. Copenhagen where they have prepared a blue-print to create destabillsatlon In the SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: As it has State of West Bengal and to create se' flOUS International connection. and Int.rnational disturbances In West Bengal. The eBI also links, as it has prepared a blu•• prlnt tltting in has received information as to how these Manila and Copenhagen to cr.at. destabill- organisations are receiving money from for- satan, I wouldl like to know whether the eign agencies. Government Will furnish a White Paper on the activities of these organisations May I know from the Government whether the Government Will consider to ( Interruptions) take the help of Interpol as they have interna- tional connections. they have their branches [ Translation] In about a hundred countries. they are col- lecting arms from foreign countries, they are SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): Mr. collecting money hom foreign countries and speaker. Sir, through you, I would like to are creating disturbances and destablhsa- draw the attention of thiS House towards the tlon 10 our country? May I know from the agitation being held on a matter of public Government whether the Government wll Importance. The RaJasthani language, take the help of Interpol to enquire IOta the spomen by four crores people of Rajasthan activities of these organisations. their activI- has not yet been included in the Eighth ties in foreign countries? I also demand that Schedule of the Constituion. The Rajasthanl a White Paper should be published by the language IS a complete language in itself. Government of India on the actiVities of There have been great poets, writers, liter- Anand Margis, their International connec- ary figures and Iyrists in this language known tions and their international links. as Plnga!. Poems such as "Pital-Patal" and "Dharti dhoron" have been composed by SHRI VASA NT SATHE: The decisions Shn Kanhya Lal Sethia who brought laurels of the High Court are In their favour. not only for Rajasthan but for the country 389 Written Answers VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 390 also. Such a rich language is being ne- present Government should not behave as glected. We do not have any objection to the the previous Government did and the Minis- inclusion of any language in the Eighth ter should respond to this (Interruptions) Schedule of constitution, even if it is spoken by 3 to 41akh people only. But we also want SHRI AJITPANJA (Calcutta North East): that the Rajasthani language which is rich in Charity begins at home. Sir, we are all pres- literature and science and which has a place ent here. All Members must contribute their of pride among Indian languages dating from one month's salary to the Andhra Cyclone the time of composition of Prithvi Raj Raso to Relief Fund, immediately. (Interruptions) modern time be given the Constitutional recognition. Hthis is not done, it may result in Instead of shouting, let them contribute a big agitation in Rajasthan. I will myself lead one month's salary-Ministers and all the agitation and will undertook fast unto- Members. (Interruptions) death, if the recognition is not given to the Rajasthani language. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: The Finance Mmistp-r wants to respond. [English] ( Interruptions) PROF. N.G. RANGA: Sir, severalof our Members and some of the Ex-Ministers also, SHRI BASl)DEB ACHARIA: Will you have already drawn the attention of the House include all your income in that? (Interrup- and of the Finance Minister to the unprece- tions) dented cyclonic damages that have come to be sufffered by a number of States-Andhra MR. SPEAKER: Shri Biplab Babu, what Pradesh, Tamilnadu, Orissa and the whole IS happening? I have not allowed you. of the East Coast. The damages caused are so unprecendented that more than 500 IndI- ( Interruptions) viduals have been done to death by the cyclone In Andhra Pradesh alone. Since the [ Translation] han. Finance Minister fortunately happens to be here, I would like him to pay some SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA' We have attention to thiS. He should not be gUided by given notice of a Calling Attention about It. the usual procedure of sending a group of experts from the Centre, getting their reports SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT (Jaunpur): and then making some allocation from out of Mr, Speaker, Sir, please put an end to this the criSIS fund, from out of the natural calami- controversy so that the han. Minister can ties fund and from the finances of the Gov- reply (interruptIons) ernment. I would like my han. friend to pay special attention and then set apart ade- [Engltsh] quate funds-not what they have prom Ised so far, it does not satisfy the people at all. If PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr possible, he himself should go and come Speaker. Sir. when a veteran like Prof. back and then advise the Government to Ranga has made a fervent appeal, It must make adeq uate allotm ent and sanction fu nds not go unheeded. Firstly, I want to make it for relief and rehabilitation. (Interruptions) clear that whc:tever be our differences with the party In power, we do not want to Induct SHRI NIRMAL KAr'HI CHATTERJEE: any poliCies as far as thiS issue is concerned. Sir, I support it. He has demanded that ths As far as past is concerned, Prof. Ranga, I 391 Written AnsW91S MAY 14. 1990 Wrltttln AnsWBIS 392 want to recall one thing. (Interruptions) Jammu and Kashmir. Shri JagAlOhn. who is not in a position to defend himseH in the The difficulty IS that when I agree with House? (Jnttl"uptions) them. they disagree. Sir. may I further add and give a precedent? Prof. Ranga may also MR. SPEAKER: The name and deroga- remember it that last time when there was tory reference will not go in the records. Janata Government. in 1977-78, I myself was deputed to go there. The then Congress [English] Chief MiOlster thanked me and congratu- lated me publicly. He said that this was one PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I wish to of the occassion on which the representative draw your attention to Rule 352 (v) of the of the Central Govemment cafT1e immedi- Rules of Procedure. It says: Y A member ately and they got the rrt~ney without any while speaking shall not reflect upon the hesItatIon I can assure the han. Member conduct of persons in high authonf', unless that whatever IS possible, consIstent with the discussion IS based on a substantIVe your suggestIOns, WIll be done motIOn drawn In proper terms." It IS very clear. Therefore, It should be removed from SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR (Qutlon): the record. The entire country IS reehng undr the alarm- Ing situatIOn In KashmIr We have always MR. SPEAKER: Yes, It will be removed held that lI"oe response of thiS Goverr'lment from record. (Interruptions) towards the KashmIr situatIOn IS feeble, Inadequate and uncoordInated They made [ Translation] It a big Issue and a big announcement when they appointed a CabInet MInIster to look SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI after the KashmIr AffairS Now, Mr. George (Rewa): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am on pomt of Fernandes IS on record that Governor Jagmo- order under Rule 352 han had made If dearto hIm that the M,nister for Kashmir AffairS IS not welcome to go to ( InteffuptlOns) the Kashmir Valley .a Mr George Fernan- des IS on record while saying thiS dUring an Interview that Governor Jagmohan IS not MR SPEAKER. Your POint of order IS hstenlng to him Is thiS the way the Govern- SImIlar to that of raised by Shn Madhu Dan- ment should handle the Kashmir Issue? ThiS davate IS highly unccordrnated. (InterruptIOns) SHRI YADVENDRA DATT' What 1e SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI' hon. Member has said should be expunged Yes Sir. we would like to have your ruling In frm the record (InterruptIOns) that matter. [English] MR. SPEAKER: I have already said and It has been done. Please take your seat. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA' Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am on a POint of order Is It proper to cast aspersion on the Governor of ( Interruptions) a·Expunged as ordered by the Chair. 393 Papers Laid VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Maners under Rule 377 394 [English] Table- SHRI AJIT PANJA: Sir, through you, to (1 ) (i) A copy of the Annual Report all the Members and also those who are in (Hindi and English versions) the Government including the very senior of the Indian Museum, Cal- and respected Minister seated here at pres- cutta, for the year 1988-89 ent, I would like to tell about the plight of an along with Audited Accounts. individual lady who wrote to the previous Prime Minister requesting for funds for heart (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi operazation of her husband. A sanction of and English versions) by the Rs. 9000/- was made in writing on 13th Government on the working of October, 1989 by the previous Prime Minis- the Indian Museum, Calcutta, ter. for the year 1988-89. MR. SPEAKER: Did she get it? (2) A statement (Hindi and English SHRI AJIT PANJA: No. She was asked versions ) showing reasons for to Inform immediately the name of the hospi- delay in laying the papers men- tal where the operation was to take place. In tioned at (1) above. [Placed in the meantime, Government changed. The Library. See No. LT. 816190] present Government and the Prime Minis- ter's Office rejected her application. Of (3) A copy of the Annual Accounts course, this is cruelty. I want to draw the (Hindi and English versions) of the attentionof the Finance Minister who is pres- Visva-Bharati, Santiniketan, forthe ent here. I am gOing to give him all the year 1988-89 together with Audit concerned papers right now. Let this grant Report thereon. be made at once. Otherwise, the poor lady will not be able to save her husband. I (4) A statement (Hindi and English request the Finance MInister to look Into the versions) showing reasons for de- mattter. lay in laying the papers mentioned at (3) above. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-817190] 12.54 hrs. PAPERS LAID ON 1 HE TABLE [English] 12.55 hrs. Annual Report and Review on the work- MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 ing of the Indian Museum, Calcutta for [English] 1988-89and Annual Accounts at the Visva- Sharali, Shanti Niketan for 1988-89 with (I) Need to provide funds to con- Audit Report thereon and statements nect National Highway No. 52 showing reasons for delay in laying these with National Highway No. 37 in papers Tlnsukia DIstrict of Assam at the earliest THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCES (SHRI SHRI LAETA UM8REY (Arunachal CHIMANBHAI MEHTA): I beg to lay on the East): Sir, the progress of construction work 395 Matters under MAY 14,1990 Ru1e377 396 [Sh. Laete Umbrey] complete Hipparagi project which would provide a permanent solution to the areas of relating to National HlQhway No. 52 to further North Karnataka. It will also enable the State connect the National Highway No. 37 at to utilize its share of Krishna water. Rupal in Tlnsukla District of Assam via East Slang, Dlbang Valley and LaM Districts of I. therefore. urge upon the Government Arunachal Pradesh IS too slow. of India to allocate more funds for this project In the 8th Plan and to complete the project 12.56 hrs. without any further delay. [SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE in (ill) Need to construct an- airport at the Chaiti Shirdi in Maharashtra As per Plan, the work was to be completed SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHE PATll within the Seventh Flve·Year Pian. but un- (Kopargaon): SIT, the Government IS fully fortunately, even the alignments 10 some of aware of the religIOUS importance of Shirdi in the portions In Arunachal Pradesh were not Maharashtra which IS attracting thousands completed In the last Five-Year Plan The of tounsts from abroad and other States In construction of bndge over fiver Slang has our country. It IS essential that for the con- been started last year only, whereas there venience of foreign tounsts an airport at are a number of big nvers Where bndges are Shlrdl IS constructed as early as poSSible It to be constructed Immediately to ensure that Will result In earning of a lot of foreign ex- the road will be completed within thiS Flve- change for us Year Plan On completion, thiS WI" be the only National Highway passing through the The Importance of Shlrdl Will Increase State Therefore, It IS urged that adequate more by hnklng thiS pilgrimage city With other funds be prOVided on higher Priority and the States and countnes abroad work be completed soon I request the Government to construct (Ii) Need to anocate more funds an airport at Shlrdl at the earliest during Eighth Five Year Plan for construction of Hipparagl Dam across Krishna river (iv) Need to allotthe land earmarked for forests to the landless SHRI C P MUDALA GIRIYAPPA (Chl- people in Rajasthan tradurga) Sir, It was planned In the year 1972 to construct a dam at Hlpparagl across [ TranslatIon] Knshna river ThiS project would Irngate 50506 hectares In Athanl, Clckodl. Ja- makhand and their neighbOUring Taluka SHRI BEGA RAM (Ganganagar) Mr The estimated cost of thiS project has risen Chairman, Sir, the Central Government had from 45 crores 10 187 crores of rupees ThiS announced In 1962 to plant trees on the project was Included In the 7th Plan but tbere forest land. The Centre had directed the are no signs of any progress In thiS project State Governments to leave ·the uncom- mand area for the forest department. At the present, lakhs of acres of land In Rajasthan The northern parts of Belgaum and IS lYing vacant along the Indira Gandhi Canal BIJapurdtstncts are drought-prone areas and There are no trees on thiS land It IS also not the Government IS spending several crores used as pasture land In RaJasthan, there of rupees for the drought relief programmes, are lakhs of landless people. That vacant almost every year Inslead of such tempo- iorest land should be allotted to the landless rary rehpf programmes. It IS high time to people and to the HariJans on priority baSIS. 397 Matters under VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Ru1e377 398 (English] ers is most ·pitiable. They are not getting minimum wages nor full time work. I, there- (v) Need to take steps for redressal fore, urge the Government of India to take of hardships of beadl workers steps for the redressal of the hardships of of Kasargod and C8nnanore said Beedi rolling labourers. districts of Kerala (vi) Need for construction oftubaw- SHRI M. RAMANNA RAI (Kasargod): ells Instead of wells under Jlvan In the industrially backward Kasargod and Ohara Scheme Cannanore districts of Kerala, large number of men and women depend on beedi rolling SHRIPRAKASH KOKOBRAHMBHATT work for their livelihood. (Baroda): The Government of India has introduced Jivan Ohara Scheme for provid- In 1968 when the then Kerala Govern- ing wells tothe small and marginal farmers of ment decided to implement the Beedi and Scheduled Castes and Tribes, enlisted under Cigar Act, the manufacturers who were Integrated Rural Development Scheme. The having their offices In Karnataka left Kerala small and marginal farmers of SCIST who In protest. But the then Kerala Government are enlisted under Integrated Rural Devel- organised workers Into industriai Coopera- opment Scheme having no irrigation facili- tive Societies and started manufactUring ties can get the advantage of the Scheme, beedles-"Kerala Dlnesh Beedies". In the provided they have not been recepients of Initial stage it was able to give work to 3000 such small irrigation facilities in the past workers and by now the Society is giving unde'r IRDP & SMF Programme. These work to more than 45.000 workers and the facilities can only be availed for wells not for workers are getting work to more than 45,000 bore wellsttube wells. The Government has workers and the workers are getting all the made the Scheme liberal, if water source is benefits. They are getting Rs. 22.60 per not available through well, the bore well can thousand beedies. be projected under this open well. The major employment giving trade in 6" diametre bore well can be constructed the industrially backward districts of Can- in Baroda District instead of wells suggested l1anore and Kasargod of Kerala. especially In Jivan Ohara Scheme by the NABARD. As Kasargod IS beedl roiling. In kasargod there per the Geological Survey data of this dis- are more than 60,000 workers in the private trict, this type of bore is feasible. Dueto rocky management and In Cannallore about 50,000 area, no pipe is required for Tube Well. Pipe workers are there. 75% ot them are women. is required only upto the over burdened stage. Hence tubewell may be allowed to be Tobacco and Tendu leaves are the raw undertaken in this District. material reqUired tor manutacturlng beedies which are Imported from other states like Sir, I suggest that Union Government Orissa. Madhya Pradesh and Andhra may accord necessary sanction for con- Pradesh. The manufacturers are mainly from structing the tube wells in this district instead Karnataka and only man power is from Ker- of wells under Jivan Ohara Scheme. ala. [Translation] The minimum wage Inciudlng D.A. IS Rs. 22.60 per thousand beedles declared In (vii) Need to pro-vide drinking water Kerala Dinesh beedl and other companies in villages and towns at Ahme- haVing their offices In Kerala are p2ying at dabad this rate. The Karnataka based companies refuse to pay at thiS rate SHRI RATILAL KAUDAS VERMA (Dhandhuka): In Gujarat, there is acute On the whole the condition of the work- scarcity of drinking water in Ohandhuka, 399 Matters under Rule 377 MAY 14. 1990 Dsmands for Grants (Gen.). 400 1990-91 Min. of Water Resoun::es & Min. of Agriculture (Sh. Ratilal Kalidas Verma) ! request the Government of India to establish an Alumina Plant at the earliest. Virarngam. Bavla in Ahmedabad district in Madal district and in villages in Botadh. Palkipur, Gadhda and Umrala tehsils under Bhavnagar district. Ponds and wells have 13.05 hrs. dried up. People are in very much distress regarding water. Both people and animals DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (GENERAL) are living in a very precarious conditions due 1990-91 to scarcity of water. It is very necessary to provide water in these areas. Otherwise. in Ministry of Water Resources near future. people will be forced to leave the and villages with their cattle. Ministry of Agrlculture-CONTD. So. I would urge upon the han. Minister [English] of Water Resources to take necessary steps In this regard. MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, I want to take the sense of the House. Already many Min- [English] Istries oould not be taken up. Today. along with Water Resources and Agriculture. the (viii) Need to set up an Alumia Plant Mintstry of Labour and Welfare are also in North Coastal Andhra listed. Now, is it the sense of the House that Pradesh. as soon as possible, we more overto Labour and Welfare and oonclude the discussion on SHRI K. RAMAMOHAN RAO (Bobbtll): Agriculture and Water Resources as quickly North Coastal Andhra comprising the dls- as possible? Otherwise the two Ministries tncts of Srikakulam, Vizlanagaram and will be left out. Visakhapatnam IS backward agriculturally and industrially, except Vlsakhapatnam city. If you agree. then what I shall do is this. This IS the root cause of emergence of Naxal Speakers from Congress (I) who could not movement in Srikakulam and VlSakhapatnam be present on the other day. I will call them districts. and then call the Minister to give a reply, Instead of calling the speakers from other To develop thiS area and to contain parties. That will let us through and we can unemployment problem. Industrialisation IS take up other Ministries today itself. It is the only solutIOn. because many speakers from each party have spoken. ThIS area IS abundant In baUXIte are. To utilise thiS are an Alumina Plant can be SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA (Madhubani): established at S. Kota In Vlzlanagaram dis- Some of us have table many Cut Motions. tnct which is surrounded by Tribal area. They oould not be moved. But they are very Important. Some time will have to be given As a matter of fact a proposal regarding for that also. the establishment of an Alumina Plant In this area is pending with the Government. MR. CHAIRMAN: I will tell you that from CPI, already three Members have spoken. During 1978. a team comprising Soviet According to the list, from each party a good experts and officials of Bharat Aluminium number Qf speakers have spoken. If you do Company Ltd. (BALCO) visiten this area and not permit what wi1l happen is that the Minis- submitted a feasibilrty report and the State try of Labour and Welfare will also come Government agreed to prOVide necessary under the Guillotine. You can decide that land. water and electriCity for this proteCt. way. It is upto the House to decide. 401 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 402 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture SHAI BHOGENDAA JHA: For impor- Grants of the Ministry of Water Resources, tant issues, a few minutes will have to be out of which we have debated only for 10 spared. hours. This is not proper. This is such an important department that the maximum MR. CHAIRMAN: A few minutes are number of members should be given oppor- seldom a few minutes and they go beyond a. tunity to express their views. It is not proper few hours. to give opportunity to only Congress Party Members. The time allotted to this debate But if you insist, there is no harm in that. should be holly utilized. Discussions on other (/nten-uptions) subjects should be taken up after that. SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombay North): I am [English] sorry, Sir; we could not hear your sugges- tions property. MR. CHAIRMAN: The problem is not about ten hours. The time left is only another MR. SPEAKER: I am trying to take the two hours. sense of the House On this .... THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [ Translation] MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- SHRI KAPil DEV SHASTRI (Sonepat): TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL Mr. Chairman, Sir, the Ministry of Agriculture MALIK): It is 3 1/2 hours. IS very important Ministry as it concern each and every countryman and people like us. MR CHAIRMAN: But where is the Who have come fully prepared to take part in time? I hr. 26 minutes for Congress: 46 the discussion. We do not get an opportunity minutes for the Janata Oat and 18 minutes to speak, as we are back-benches. for the BJP. Where is the time? They do not adhere to their time. Do they? [English] rTranslation) MR. CHAIRMAN: You are raising a problem of the back-benchers .. It can be SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK: Sir, what accommodated. It IS a different matter. What you have said is reasonable, but some I was suggesting was that a!ready, many Members, who wanted to speak have been speakers from each party and segment have left out and we still have time with us. Let us spoken on these two Ministries. So, if we can take a decision to the effect that we can limit it to that, it will be better-except for my continue this discussion till 6'0 clock, when calling a few from the Congress(l) since they Half an Hour discussion will be taken up. have not consumed their time. Then we can This would give opportunity to those Mem- pass on, afterthe l\,1inster's reply, tothethere bers who have been left out. Ministries, viz. labour and Welfare. That is what I was trying to take the sense of the [English] ~ouse on, viz. whether they agree that not many more speakers from the different par- ties will be called; and that as soon as we MR. CHAIRMAN: If that is the sense, it can, we move to the other two Ministries. is all right, but this is the time allotted. [ Translation] [ Translation] SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI SHRI YUVRAJ (Katihar): Mr. Chair- (Rewa): Mr. Chairman, Sir, we were gIVen man, SiT, n is okay. Let the discuss\on be 15 hours for discussing the Demands for continued till 6'0 Clock. 403 Dema.nds for Grants MAY 14.1990 Water Resources & 404 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture [English] PROF. P.J. KURIEN: You can divide it appropriately. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): Some of the hon. Members may be SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK: You can called to speak divide it appropriately. MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes; that is what I am MR. CHAIRMAN. It can be done only if going to do. But before that. wanted to know the House agrees to that. Otherwise. it is not the sense of the House. possible for me to do it. SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK: By 6 p.m. it [ Translation] should be trnlshed-includlng the reply and the vote. SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK: Agreed. PROF P J KURIEN (Mavellkara): SHRI GABHAJI MANGAJI TAKORE endorse the view expressed here, that there (Kapadwan]): Mr Chairman, Sir, I have not should be time for diSCUSSion on Labour and got the opportunity to speak even once. I Welfare-especially Welfare That IS also would like to speak on the Demands for equally Important So. my suggestion IS this Grants of the MInistry of Agriculture. My you have 3.30 hrs altogether Let each party Party has forwarded my name. Kindly allow take 50% of the time our party has 80 me minutes, and we are prepared to be satisfied With 40 minutes If all other parties can MR CHAIRMAN. You were not present cooperate like that we can end the diSCUS- In the House when your name was called. sion earlier, and start Labour and Welfare, which are also equally Important SHRI RAM NAIK My suggestion would SHRI GABHAJI MANGAJI TAKORE' be that the diSCUSSion on thiS Mlnlstry's My name has been sent to-day only I have Demands should be completed by 6 P m not gone one of the House Then we can start Labour after 6 p m We have been sitting on other days for a lonqer [English] time So, we can diSCUSS Labourforone hour today, and forthe remaining time tomorrow MA. CHAIRMAN I do not know. Any- We can work for one hour In excess today way, please Sit down GUillotine IS for tomorrow at 3 p m So we Will get four hours, including one hour today Shn Sontosh Mohan Dev MR CHAIRMAN I do not thmk It IS very SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV (Tnpura practical But anyway, IS tillS the sense of the West) Mr. Chairman, Sir, we are diSCUSSing House? It means that Labour and Welfare the demands for grants relating to the Mlnls- Will be gUillotined (/ntf'rruptlons) tnes of Water Resources and Agriculture. I come from the north-eastern region, particu- SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK You can do larly Assam where the river Brahmaputra IS It. Sir, If you can (Interruptions) known as a Tlver of sorrow. Every year, not once out more than once, the floods cause havoc In Assam It damages hundreds and MR CHAIRMAN I find It slightly difficult thousands of households It affects a num- to do so. That time also Includes the time tor ber of Villages. Thousands of acres of crops a reply by the hon MInister OtherWise. It IS are always damaged. not poSSible to accommodate more han members Within the time left We know that In the past the Govern- 405 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 406 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture ment of lndia had formed a Brahmaputra was a project called the Tipaimukh Dam Floods Control Board. But. unfortunately this which was in the border of Manipur and has not been activated in the .manner in eachar. When I was the Minister of State for which it should have been done. Even now I Home Affairs, I personally had several rounds do not know the latest position. The Minister with the Ministers of Water Resources and will be able to say better about It. This Board Agriculture and I was given a written assur- does not have a full-time Chairman. Some- ance'by the then Minister that in the Eighth time back a Secretary was the Chairman of Five Year Plan the Tipaimukh Dam will be thiS Board. This Board was formed with an started; not only that. it was decided that a Idea to prepare a Master Plan and to control token amount will be spent during the last flood havoc In the north-eastern region What year of the Seventh Five Year Plan to start progress has been made In thiS respect? the infrastructural work in that area. I had a Have the full-time Chairman and its Mem- personal discussion with the present Secre- bers been appointed? How much funds have tary of the Water Resources Department. on been allocated by the Government of India thiS issue, and I was assured that a study for this? What are your plans and' pro- team was going in depth aboutthat particular grammes dUring the Eighth Five Year Plan? project and that the technical survey for the The economy of Assam IS dependent mainly Tlpaimukh dam IS over, the report has come, on agriculture Industry and steel Industry as and that the Water Resources Department is also all industries Unfortunately. It affects evaluating all the pros and cons of it and that largely all these industries Even t"'e tea the project will take shape in the Eighth Five garden areas are being subjected to soli Year Plan. Therefore. I would like to know erosion because of these floods. The SitU- from the hon. Minister what is the present ation of paddy fields goes to the extent that poSition of the Tipaimukh project which is It becomes non-vl;;tble to have agriculture on known as Barak Valley Dam? those lands Siltation to a certain height is to the advantage of the agriculturists: but Silta- From the POint of view lilt agriculture it is tion beyond a certain height becomes havoc good that the Government of India has come for the agricultUrists Every year. the Gov- forward to help the cyclone affected areas of ernment of India. IS coming forward to help the Andhra and Tamil Nadu and others. But the Government oj Assam. to give relief to there. was also some effect of the cyclone in the flood affected areas If you conSider the Tnpura and the Government of Tnpura had amount of money !hat has been spent on sent a memorandum to the Government of floods control from 1947 till today. you will India. Unfortunately, no action has been see that the whole amount has not been _Jaken. , appreciate the situation that the utilised In a better way. If the whole amount , havoc that has been caused in Andhra and had been utilised In a better way to harness 'Tamil Nadu and part of Orissa definitely is thiS nver not for the sorrow but for the happI- inuch more dangerous in nature than what ness of the people liVing on the Side of the has happened in Tnpura. But when you take nver. then the problem of floods control care of a particular area and neglect another would have been solved. So while the han. area It becomes difficult for us to answer to Minster replies. I would like to know fram him the people as we are the elected represen- as to what is the plan of action of the Govern- tatives. We cannot answer them why some ment of India to actlvlse thiS Brahmaputra step is taken in certain parts of the cou~try Flood Control Board, what are the projects and why different action has been taken in that are gOing to be taken up and what are other parts of the country. I would like to the projects that the Government IS gOing to know what has been happening about the take up In the Eighth_Five Year Plan cyclone affected areas of Tripura because Tripura is contagious to Bangladesh and as you know, certain parts of Bangladesh are In the area I come from, Cachar. Borak wrecked by cyclone every year and it has got river IS the cause of flood every year. There certain fall out in some areas of Tripura also. 407 Demands for Grants MAY 14.1990 Wat.,- ResoulCtflS & 408 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricultulfl (Sh. Sontosh Mohan Dev] damage. the official team had recommended more. In Assam, at least. there are 5000 the Government of India gives money bridges, small culverts and these are not for relief in the flood affected areas and there working at all because of the flood damage. is a system to give money for the completely The Assam Govdmment cannot spend on damaged houses, partly damaged houses this. Some money was given. When I was a and for the damage of crop and so on. In Member from that area in 1984, I got sanc· October 1989 a sum of Rs. 27.1 crores and tion Rs. 691akhs for a bridge and the work of in November Rs. 85.67 crores were given. that bridge has now started in 1990. So long making a total of Rs. 112.77 Cl'Qres by the the Assam Government is sitting with this Agriculture Ministry to the Government of money. I am very happy that the Surface Assam. to help the flood affected areas of Transport Minister is here. Recently in the Assam. Unfortunately. the money has not Bodo movement. one bridge had been blown been totally disbursed till today. I personally away. It is the life-line of Assam. I am happy metthe Deputy Prime Minister and appraised that the Ministry of Transport had taken him about this, and he assured me that immediate action by making a valley bridge someone from the Ministry will be sent for Mr. Unnikrishnanji, unfortunately the load monitoring it to see whether the money has restriction is so much that it cannot take the been distributed. But the money has been actual load and you are not allowing it rightly. dNerted elsewhere. This is a very severe But unfortunately it has become a source of lapse on the part of the State Government. corruption tor Police and others there. Prac- The Government will give the money for a tically it should not carry more than four or particular purpose when a memorandum five tonnes. But it is carrying seven or eight comes to the Government of India and the items in lieu of something. And this is what is Government of India sends a team to visit happening now. This bridge will again col- those areas to have an in-depth study about lapse. So, I urge upon you to take immediate the reality of the damage that has been done action on this matter. I know that you have and the officers come and submit theIr re- asked personally the Assam Government to port. On the basis of that report the money is submit the Plan and the Estimate. I have given. But unfortunately when the money is been told that the Assam Government has given, the money is not spent properly. There not yet submitted it. They should be asked to should be a monitoring system. submit it immediately. because the mon- soon season is approaching soon. Assam is Now, you are givIng money to Andhra. connected by a small corridor through rail While that is very good, it should also be and road. This Bodo Movement and the seen whether the money has been for the Movement in ADC area in Karbi Anglong and purpose for which the money has been given North Cachar is going on in a militant man- or not, From my experience, every year, ner. whether it is a Congress Government or a Non-Congress Government in Assam, crores Now in Assam, there is an acutue short- of rupees are being spent by .the .Govern- age of essential commodities because of the mentof India. Atthe beginnrng, t~~"'_feY is lack of communication by road and rail. The spent for the ways and means a'fi'd- ~ubse rail damage was also there. The movement quently the Government of India reimbl,lrse of rail is there mostly in the day time and in the money: But, unfortunatery the money is the night time it has been restricted. So, I not spent forthe purpose for which it is giV.en. urge upon the Government to look into this tn the Revenue Manual ofthe Assam Gov- particular problem. ernment, there is a provision. as to how much for th completely damaged house and how In the discussion that we had with the much for the half damaged· house. I know, Assam Government official and others, it even the Government of India had gone was decided that before this Barak dam and beyond that. After seeing the depth of the the Tipaimukh dam are taken up, the Brah- 409 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 410 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture maputra Board can take positive steps in you give alternative source of earning to the regard to the scheme which is known as people in the villages. So 1would like to know upgradation of the drainage scheme in dif- from the Agriculture Minister that about the ferent Districts of Assam, including the Barak alternative crop against jhum cultivation in valley. The carrying capacity of the small north-eastern region, what is the plan and rivers from the main river has gone down programme because jhum cultivation must considerably because Df the siltation that be stopped? Unless it is stopped, it is going has taken place in the small rivers. It was to create havoc in the hill areas of north- decided that in order that the main river can eastern region. The alternative arrangement give water in a proper manner, there should of rabi crop as well as other varieties of crops be drainage in the small rivers. That will be which will not destroy the soil of the forest done by tne Central Government through should be thought of. What is the plan and the Brahmaputra Flood Control Board. In programme about this forthis particular area? this respect, certain areas in Barak valley, Now gon9, Sibsagar and other areas were As I said, time IS short and I do not want Identified. But, unfortunately, till today no to go into the general aspects. But I will work has started. I would like to know the specially request the Agriculture Minister to progress in work in thiS regard. react about the alternatIve to jhum cultiva- tion. From the point of view of the Agriculture Ministry, in Tripura, 75 per cent of the popu- About the money Which is being sent lation live in tribal areas and In ADC area. from here, I personally spoke to the Deputy Last year a new type of cultivation has been Prime Minister and also spoke to the Secre- started, which is mainly to dissuade the tribal tary, Agriculture. I am not mingling any people to do jhum cultivation. Jhum cultiva- Government or any particular individual. What tion does a lot of damage to the forest. The I say is that you are maligning money for a erosion of the land is to the extent that It gives specific purpose and that money must not be situation to the areas Ir. small rivers. The diverted for other purposes. I would like to Government of India took a policy deCISion know from the hon. Minister what steps he that cultivation should be dissuaded in the has taken in this regard. If he cannot answer whole North Eastern and it should be re- it now, I would request him to at leastfind out placed by another cultivation. One of the through his machinery whether the money processes was that we should start more which has been given to the Assam Govern- horticulture and more Rabl crop production ment in the last three years has been prop- in the jhum areas, which does not erode the erly utilised. If it IS not, then for future, please land and thereby we can give gainful occu- give a guideline that it IS properly utilised pation to the tribal people so that they do not because it affects the image of the Central feel hurt that jhum cultivation has been Government. We as Members of Parliament stopped and their source of living has been go and produce the letter or assurance from affected. As against that, the Government of the Minister that this has been given. But on India agreed to give subsidised foodgrains in the ground people do not get it. tribal areas. I am glad that the present Gov- ernment has again re-Introduced It for T npura, I again repeat for the benefit of the hen. Meghalaya, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Minister of Water Resources to let me know Mizoram and hill areas of Assam like Karbia- about Brahmaputra Flood Control Board am=! long and North Cachar Hills. This is a very Taipamukh Dam. welcome step. At the same time, unless special fund is provided for the cultivation of Since the Minister of Surface Transport rabi crop and hor.ticulture In the forest area's IS here, , may briog-to his notice that I have to give a gainful occupation to the people in written several letters to him_ He has ac- hill areas', it is going to be counter-produc- knowledged them. But the answer is still tive. You cannot stop jhum cultivation lmless waiting. I am sure, he knows Assam very 411 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 War., RnoutCes & 412 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture [Sh. Sontosh Mohan Dev] sources available in our innumerable rivers, by developing the necessary technology. well because he has travelled all parts of Apart fr()m agriculture, billions of rupees Assam. I hope, he will also look into this have been spent on flood control, but even problem because communication is a major today, no significant improvement is in sight. problem. I have written to him about four or For this, money is provided not only by the five bridges which were sanctioned by the Central Government but even loans with prevIOus Government But now the progress interest are taken from the world bank. is standstill. I urge upon him to take actIOn in Despite all this, we are unable to impfement this regard. even a single programme and it is the farm- ers who are at the losing end. There is 300- [ Trans/at/on] 400 kilometre long embankment along the river Maharashtra in our area that embank- SHRI YUVRAJ (Katthar)' Mr. Chair- ment was built in 1974 to control the floods, man, Sir, I support the Demands for Grants but so far no proviSIOn has been made for the of the Ministry of Agriculture and the Ministry outflow at excess water. Heavy floods cause of Water Resources presented here but I there In 1987 during whICh there was see would Irke to submit have that Agrrculture IS page and breaches at many places. As a the ministry of our country The common result of whICh there were loss worth 1400 farmers, that IS. the marginal farmers lead a crore rupees in the Katihar district (of Bihar) hfe similar to that of the labourers In thiS done. Thousands of cattle died and lakhs of House and other forasus, diSCUSSIOns take people were rendered homeless. Despite place regularly for increasing the support the allocatIOn of money by the lender and pncesof agricultural produce Wheneverthe despite the constructIOn ofthe embankments, support price Increases only a handful of the related work have not been completed farmers are benefit but the pnces Increases due on the laxity by the focus of the officials In the market. The well known hohomst, Shn of the Irrigation department attached to the G K Bhowmlck has said that the pnces flood control embankments on the Mahar- should be consolidated Instead of giving ashtra ThiS IS the reason that the farmers remunerative pnces. Allthepeoplewould be are repeatedly demandmg the constructIOn benefited are prices one controlled Hence, of a calvert and a slUice gate at Sikklm Ghat. If we talk only of increasing the support They have also repeatedly demanded for prices of agricultural produce, It would not the construction of a slUice gate at the Boal- only lead to Inflation but It would also In- manl dam, but rt has fallen on deaf ears. crease the difficulties of the people In Bihar, Flood waters, not only dom the Kosi and cultivable land IS available In plenty, but It Mahananda rivers, but also from Nepal cre- remains uncultivated, because means of ate havoc there. but the outlook of the Gov- IrrigatIOn are not available, because It IS not ernment department IS so unscientifIC that it possible to prOVide Irrigation facllrtles wrth- IS diffICult to explain It There was a railway out electriCity. How much electrICity do you bridge In our area but even that has been prOVide to us? The supply IS twenty percent closed for traffiC. The Railways thought that less than what IS needed and In the rural they would be able to get rid oj great difficulty areas. the Situation IS even worse In those If they close down that bridge. The farmers of areas, there IS a shortage of 40 percent. Few North Bihar, especially those belonging to cities set the benefit at the expense at the the Katihar district cut down the railway rural areas Therefore. rf we Wish to develop tracks and faCilitated the outflow of the flood our agrICulture, It IS necessary for us to waters of Mahanawda into the Ganga during Improve the power situation In the country. the 1987 floods. Due to the outflow of water Electricity should be made available to the In thiS way, they were able to get relief. Ours farmers by not only increasing the genera- IS the most backward district in the entire tion of electrICity through thermal power but state. It is situated the borders of Bengal. also by exploiting the Immense water re- Embarkments are built in Katihar and Purnia 413 Demands for Grants VAI8AKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 414 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture districts, but no provision for sluices gates a committee. My request to you is that you are made thus it is matter of great regret that should formulate an agriculture policy on the these embankments are of not beneficial to lines of the industrial policy. That is, if you the farmers. The farmers In the countryside want.to give agriculture the status an indus- are also greatly affected by it as even they do try, then you will have to change your out- not get any facility. The Government has not look. With these words, I thank you. made any arrangement has not made any arrangement for this convenience. Earlier [English] new soil was brought by the rivers, but now even that has stopped. The Government did SHRI LAETA UMBREY (Arunachal not pay attention towards making provision East): Sir, I know that there is time con- for the outflow of water by constructing straint. So I will simply submit the points. channels. The Government should have Firstly, Arunachal Pradesh has less than 5% provided channels so as to provide relief to of its total land which IS plain, fertile and the farmers of that area by making available cultivable land area compared to its total water in order to facilitate better irrrgation of land area. So, the people in the hills tend to their fields. Even though fourteen years have settle in those areas for cultivation. But fortu- passed since the construction of the em- nately or unfortunately, we have very heavy bankments on the Mahananda, the farmers rains in the State every year. The collected have not been able to derive any benefit from rain waters which flows into a number of It, I would like to tell you that It IS not lust a small and big tributaries of Brahmaputra question of these difficulties, but under the River wash away the crops and cultivable present economy and SOCial structure a land every year. Hence, I would request the handful of people have emerged prosper- Government to look into the matter and take ous, and it is this class which IS dominating necessary immediate measures for prevent- the politiCS of the entire country, Including Ing the floods. The State Government has Punjab. The entIre administrative set up is taken axamber of measures for prE~_venting under their domlnatton. Therefore. I would the floods every year, but due to inadequate like to submrt to you. That unless radical source of funds, the State Government could changes are brought about in the economiC, not take any big step. So, the Central Gov- socIal and developmental process. all your ernment should provide sufficient funds for efforts to raise Industries and to increase executing the schemes for flood protection. production would not In any way benefit our In 1988, we had a very major flood in Arun- suffering masse~. who constitute fifty per- achal Pradesh where hundreds of people cent of our populatIon Therefore, our basic had lost their houses, hundreds of villages outlook should be that changes should be had been washed away and thousands of brought about In the economic process. so acres of cultivable land under cultivation that ItS benefits may reach the people In rural were affected. We have asked for money areas, who get less wages. Due to the low from the Central Government for flood pro- wages and unemployment. people are mi- tection works, but the fund provided to Arun- grating to PunJ [Sh laeta Umbrey] MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, It IS there. ened because the water level In Brahmapu- SHRI RAM NAIK Normally, after Con- tra IS at much higher level than the main land. gress Party, we get our turn So, every year hundreds of acres of tea gardens are washed away Therefore. major MR. CHAIRMAN It IS left to the Chair flood protection schemes are to be taken up let him speak all along the river Brahmaputra The per- formance of the Brahmaputra Flood Control ( Trans/atlon] Board IS totally dissatisfactory not only In respect of ItS study on Brahmaputra but also SHRIRAMJllAl YADAVA(AIwar) Mr In respect of Its study on other trlbutarres Chairman, Sir, India IS an agrrcultural coun· try During the year "940-4" when , was \n lastly, I would like to say that In Dlbang college, I read In the boo" that Valley Dlst of Arunachal Pradesh one of the very Important mediCinal herbs called coptiC [English] tlta which IS popularly knows as mlshmltta IS found In plenty In Seventies our people Indian agriculture IS a gamble In monsoon used to sell this In the plains of Assam collecting the same from the mountainous [ TranslatIon] Jungles which are found at a height of above 5000 ft but suddenly at the end of 70s the Unfortunately that Situation stili eXists even market went down All the same time In today those days our State Government had taken up a number of schemes to encourage the To Improve the Situation and give boost Villagers to cultivate this medICinal herb to the agriculture the Government did not Now many farms have been developed In prOVide Irrrgation faCility dunng the last 40 the area, but there IS no market to sell these years In fact more efforts are needed for It products and our people are getting very SpeCial efforts are needed to pump out the much discouraged We are told that In those underground water ThIS Will make our farm- days these mlshmrtta herbs were exported ers prosperous I would lIke to submit that to Japan I do not know how the Japanese water partICularly In Rajasthan IS available people used It but we are told that they have neither for drlnkrng purposes nor for Irriga- plenty of mlshmrtta from China at campara tion purposes DUring the last 40 years no tlvely cheaper rate and they have stopped effort was made by the Government to solve bUying mlshmltta from India So, why can't thiS problem Therefore I would like to re- we engage our Research Institute to study quest the Government to make special effort the use of these mediCinal herbs In India to dIg exploratory tubewells on expenmented Itself and set up some mediCinal factones In baSIS and efforts should be made to pump the State where they are available? Also, our out water even If It IS found at 400 to 500 or Government should take up this matter with even at 1000 feet deep below the ground Japan If they were really exported to Japan and the farmers should be adVised as to earlier So, I reque"t the Government to take whether water IS SUitable for agriculture up this matter qUite senously and ensure so purposes or not, after carrying out neces- that the economIc cond,tion of those poor sary tests of the water Since the State farmers are Improved once again Government does not have necessary re- sources to do all thiS, , would lIke to request MR CHAIRMAN Shn Ramplal Yadava the Central Government to Install such tu- bewells In Rajasthan Since SOil In RaJast- SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombav North) Sir, han IS extremely sandy ar1d there IS a lot of I am on a point of informatIOn Is the BJP list loss of \ll&ater In conveyance, It IS, therefore, of Members With you thern ~ Imperative to Irngate fields with the help of 417 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 418 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture sprinkle system or laying underground pipes Jhakhrana and Gwala which were once to take water from one place to other place to famous forthe quality seeds of milletthrough- avoid loss of water and ensure maximum out Rajasthan and Haryana from where utilisation of it. people used to come here to purchase seeds of millet whose average yields was also very Besides, we have noticed that every good. When Panchayat committees were year water level is going down by 10 to 15 first formed people preferthis seed. Nowthe feet. Something should be done in this re- people are becoming dependent on hybrid gard. My constituency Alwar borders Har- seeds which resulted in degradation in qual- yana, Across the border in Haryana there is ity and taste. I would like to request the a net work of canals, while there is no canal Government to revive this variety of seeds in my area. I would like to submit that Rajast- which is on the verge of extinction. han is also one of the States of India, like Haryana. I wOlJld like to request that if it is not Nowadays plants are catching new possible to release water for irrigation for diseases. Of course, insecticides are pro- Rajasthan from the canals in Haryana, at vided by the Government for this but they least raw water may be released to our area have become ineffective. Seeds imported from those canals so that underground wa- from other countries contain weeds which ter level could be raised in our area. This cause new diseases to plants. In order to would enable us to Irrigate our fields through remove the possibility of plants catching tubewells and wells diseases due to weeds in imported seeds, imported seeds should be checked through Again there IS soil problem in districts quarantine method. like Alwar and Bharatpur. The soil there has become saline and contains soda ash. I I would like to invite your attention to- have read in the annual report of the Ministry wards one more problem of Rajasthan. The that in states like Haryana, Bihar and Uttar Central assistance to states is given under Pradesh, a scheme has been started under Gadgil formula drawn in 1968. According to which barren land has been made arable this formula, central assistance to states is with special treatment method. I would like to given as follows: 60% on the basis of popu- request you to include Rajasthan also in this lation, 10% on the basis of per-capita in- scheme so that people of Rajasthan are come, 10% for major irrigation and power benetited. projects and 1 O%s for special problems. But this proviSion was amended in 1971 and the Mr. Chairman. Sir, Government has funds provided for malar Irrigation and power constructed many big dams. There IS no projects was discontinued and the fund scope of such dams in Rajasthan. But in my provided on the basis of per capita income area. smaller dams can be constructed at a was increased from 10% to 20%. Thus the nominal cost of Rs. 2 to 4 lakhs. Such dams poorer states like Rajasthan were put to loss would be very useful for irrigation through because of peculiar geographically situation canals as well as by pumping the sub-soil where 4% of the population of the country water. The Central Governiilent should help lives and whose area is 11 % of the total area Rajasthan Government in thiS regard. of the country. Government should give more assistance to Rajasthan. Unless Rajasthan Apart from it, efforts should be made to is given central ass:stance in proportion to Its supply seeds in adequate quantity and in area, it can not get fair share in the central time to the farmers. I would like to say that assistance. Therefore if Government wants the foodgrains of hybrid seeds are not so to make development in Rajasthan, weight- tasty as compared to the foodgrains of con- age should be given to its area while giving ventional seeds. central assistance. As per the revised for- mula, many big power and irrigation projects In my area there are two Villages named of Rajasthan which were undertaken in 1968 419 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water Resoun::es & 420 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture [Sh. Ramjilal Yadava] competition. They give us much as six to eight kilograms of milk daily. I urge upon the with the help of central government became Government to conduct research on she- Ineligible for central assistance as a result of goats in our area and send this breed of she- whICh the state could not be benefited from goats to other parts of the country so that the projects like Chambal, Rajasthan canal, more and more people could be benefited. Mahi project in whICh huge investment was made by the state government. Thus while in In the and I would like to thank you for the first plan RaJasthan's share in central providing ma opportunity to speak and lis- assistance was 6.8% while In sixth plan it got tening my points carefully. Now I resume my only 5%. Among 18 most poorer states, seat. Rajasthan stands at 5 place. Rajasthan is not getting adequate central assistance. On [English] the contrary. the state IS mobiliSing resources with ItS own efforts. The state mobilised SHRI RAM NAIK: I would again appeal 9 8% resources WIth Its own efforts In the to you because BJP Members are not being First F,ve Year Plan ThiS figure rncreased to called. 69 9% In the SIxth plan DespIte all these, Rajasthan IS not gettrng due share In the MR. CHAIRMAN: It does not mean they central assistance That IS why the state IS will never be called suffering I therefore. request that Ralasth,an IS specially conSidered for central assIs- SHRI RAM NAIK (BOMBAY NORTH): tance takmg IOta account Its vast area For- Already a conventIOn IS there. mer Chief Minister ShnJoshl and Shn Mathur had also taken up thiS matter with the Central MR. CHAIRMAN: No. ThiS has to be Government but their requests were not arranged In a certain way which is not strictly heeLed to by the then Central Government. on the conventional lines. Shn A.K Roy will The present Chief MInister of the state Shn now speak. Bhalro Singh Shekhawat took upthls matter with the central government Immediately SHRI A.K ROY (Dhanbad): Mr Chair- after takrng charge of hiS offICe He has man, while diSCUSSing agnculture. we are requested the Government to revise the practically forgetting that fertiliser IS also a formula for giving central assistance He has part of the Agriculture Mlntstry which used to requested to give welQhtage to the area also be previously a part of the Petroleum and I. therefore. through you. request the Gov- ChemICals MIOIstry ernment to revise the Gadgtl formula and gt\le welQhtage to the area also When I heard the speeches of many Members, none of them, at least those Besides. efforts should be made 0 Members whom I could hear. dealt with the supplement the Income of farmers f':lin problem of fertlhser in our country. sources other than farmmg For thiS far ers have been resorting to aOimal husbandry In You know that for agriculture, three my state But they have been doll'19 It wrth things are most Important. One, land man- conventional method whICh IS not economi- agement which means, land reforms and cal I. therefore. request that farmers should other things. be prOVided cross breed animals so that they could supplement their Income More ant! Secondly. water management. That more vetennary hospitals should be opened. means irrigation and other water conserva- In my area of Jhakranan. she~ats are tion devices. famous for their high Yield In whole of the country. For the last 3 or 4 years they are Lastly, the input management whICh securing first or second positIon In all Indaa means the proper selection and proper use 421 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 422 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricuhure of fertiliser and also the correct quality of comprehensive plan is to be made by the seeds to augment or to increase agricultural new Ministry .about making all those sick production. Whatever we may say till today, fertilizer units. ailing fertilizer units viable. agriculture is the main base of our economy And forthat, I am like to stress on the Ministry contributing to about 30 per cent of our about the two companies-one is FCI and the national income. And this time we have other is HFC-which are chronically ill chil- produced about 175 million tonnes of dren of fertilizer family. And this Ministry (oodgrains. And at the end of the Eighth Five must come out with some comprehensive Year Plan if we are to maintain our present plan as to how to rehabilitate and how to degree of nutrition, we are to produce about make those plants run in a profitable basis. 206 million tonnes of foodgrains and up to We have to go deep into all these aspects. 2000 A.D. we are to produce 222 million Under HFC, there are factories like Dur- tonnes of foodgralns. Wherefrom would that gapur, Baruni, Haldia and Namn.;...-I, II and extra foodgralns come because we cannot III.; .ltnd under FCI. there are factories like expand our area under cultivation to that Sindri. Gorakhpur. Ramagundam and Tal- extent? We have already exhausted it. That char. They are all sick and all are running at means. we are to go In for intensive cultiva- losses. tion which means. Increase In the agricul- tural input. And in that. fertilizer is the main But if we go into it we will find that it is not thing. We know that one tonne of fertilizer the fault of the workers. People always talk nutrient can produce ten tonnes offoodgrains. that there is no work culture and all that. But Th'1t means, If we are to produce some 30 if we go deep into it. we will find that it is not million tonnes of more foodgralns. we have the fault of the workers but certain design to create a capacrty for three million tonnes defects. certain mismatch in equipment that of nutrients. And three million tonnes of are contributing to all these losses. nutnent means an expenditure of more than Rs. 10.000 crores In the Eighth Five Year I have already said earlier that if we Plan. spend some Rs. 600 crores in HFC that will make the entire company viable within a As we have seen and experts have period of two years and we will be saved of calculated-I will take some time because chronic loss of some Rs. 200 crores per this IS the only subject which I have taken to year. deal with in the entire Budget-that today our capacity for nitrogenous fertilizer IS about Similarly we haveto make timely invest- 8.1 million fonnes. and for phosphatic fertil- ments i" FCI units. For example. in Sindri the Izer. It is 2.7 m illlo;1 tonnes If we total this up. entire Ammonium Sulphate Plant is lying It comes to 10.8 million tonnes. And of the idle. This and the Ammonium Nitrate Plants on-going process. if something comes into othe" modifications require some Rs. 50 production. then before entering the Eighth crores. The)' will put Sindri again into the list Five Year Plan. have 11.8 million tonnes of of profit making companies. capacity for prodUCing nutrients. But we will be needing a capacity of 16.5 million tonnes. Similarly in Ramagundam this plant is That means. we are to put three to four now lYing idle because of lack of thermal million tonnes of additIOnal capacity. which I plant. Already a proposal has been given to have calculated earlier. Wherefrom would give 40 MW captive power plant. If that is that capacity come? In which way. can we installed in time. the Ramagundam Plant will add that capacity? One way is to install new also come out of the loss making spree. plants. That must be done. I am not objecting to that. Another way IS. we must increase the In Gorakhpur area there is the oldest capacity utilisation of each plant. We must plant. 1t was giving profits. it has already rehabilitate our all the eXisting plants. I want passed twenty years. Gorakhpur Plant needs to suggest that some action plan. some very definitely a thorough renovation and replace- 423 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Waf.,. Resoun»s & 424 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of MIn. Of Agriculture tSh. A.K. Roy) capacity utitisation, that would be cheaper and easier way to it. If you.want to start a new ment by a new plant so that it can also make prOject, it may require lar,d acquisition and it profits. In this way if each' plant is examined involves a lot of complications. You can do and proper action is taken we can revive all that also and I do not prevent you from doing the fertilizer plants and put them to profit that. In Sindri, Barauni, Durgapur and Haldia, making spree. land is there; infra-structure is there; ma- chine is there; only thing is that it requires We discussed Haldia many times. H we correction, it requires proper scrutiny; it go into the details of Haldia you will find that requires proper accountability which must the entire plant became obsolete because be entrusted. thE. Fuel Oil Plant did not work. Why? Because of lack of a proper oxygen com- I would also like to suggest this. We are pressor. It required a timely investment of having our own Aesearch Organisations like As. 20 crores which was not done. So POlL-Pian and Development Division of ammonia could not be produced and in the India, now called as Project and Develop- entire downstream the whole plant went out ment Division of India-and FEDO. They of operation and now. it is lying idle. That is have developed a lot of expertise; you trust why a comprehenSive proposal was given to them and you entrust each plant to one of the the Ministry by POlL that they have to invest research institutions. If they faiL then you As. 227 crores which will make their Ammo- catcb hold of them; you make them respon- nia Plant, Urea Plant and Methanol Plant sible for that and dismiSS the senior officers, operative and also run it on a profit baSIS. in case of any lapse. And _yo.J do not make them sub-contractors to those multi-nation- The Nitro Phosphate zone requires als and foreign powers like Kellog, Haldor- some Rs. 100 crares. FEDO gave a propoSal topse and Toye. What you are getting from to them. If that is accepted. that al-so can run. them? You are making use of your own But what is dlsturbang in fertilizer Indu5try IS experts, just as an appendage to those that they take such a long time In taking concerns. They are coming. making a thing correct deCISIons that ultimately when the and go;ng: but after that it does not work. The plant becomes redundant then only they you are not able to catch anybody: and you come out and start workIng. That IS why my are in difficulties because one part is made proposal IS that you have to add some th,ee by one company and another part is made by to four million tonnes ot nutnent to meet the another company by w,",ich we could not fix food demands an the 8th Five Year Plan. the responsibility on anyone. as it happened Insteao of spending all the money for new in Ramagundam and in Haldia. That is why. plants, kindly rehabilitate all your ailing plants my request is that firstly, you come out with because that would gIve handle for them to a concrete proposal for rehabilitating all the run it at the optimum Cap~(;"y. At least FCI sick units. Secondly. you entrust some plants will give you fIve lakh tonnes of extra nitro- tothe research institution. Like POlL. FEOO. gen which you are not gettIng because the You give them complete responsibility of capacity utilisation IS 37% because of de- rehabilitating them. They may seek the fects in your machines. HFC can give you cooperation of Kellog, they may seek the another tour lakh tonnes of fertilizer without cooperat!cn of Haldortopso, they may seek spending anythmg. You are not getting that the cooperation of Toye. they may seek the also because the capacity utilisation is 25%. cooperation of Lurgi, and they may seek the cooperation of whatever internationally famous firms that are available. But the My CORcrete proposal IS that Instead of responsibility will be their in this case, Selec- going in for a new projoct. if you exp::30d the tion of equipments, treating the equipments. capacity of the old projects and of the ailing alignment of equipment, installation, for all ingredients which Qr ehampering its proper these the research institutions should be 425 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) water Resources & 426 (Gen.). 1990·91 Mm. of Min. of Agriculture made responsible. So, give them the right to have 50 tonnes or 100 tonnes capacity per do it. day. This way will help you in making prog- ress. ICI has made an analysiS that even Another tl'ling I would like to say is this. sma" plants can be run effectively and en- You are going to instaH in the Eighth Five ergy consumption is actually the Achilles' Year Plan, three Naptha-based plants. You heel of the entire fertiliser industry. Instead of shoul_d install one of the Naptba plants at having a big plant in one place. you can have Sindri itself, because Sindri plant is becom- small plants with a capacity of 50 or 100 ing old. I think, the proposal has come to you tonnes per day in each agricultural zone. already. Similarly one Naptha plant should There are zones in various parts of North be installed at Gorakhpur, where the plant Bihar and North Bengal where facilities like has become old, after serving for more than transportation are not available. But you can 20 years. Another Napth plant, if not in- set up mini fetilizer plants there with what- stalled. the present capaclty-600 tonne per ever raw material available in the atmos- day--of both Durgapur and Barounl should phere. There are problems as far as supply be Increased. and transportation of fertilizers are con- cerned. H mini fertilizer plants are consti- In this way. by spending less and utilis- tuted in agricultural areas, then the problem Ing our own expertise. you can develop It. I of transportation humidity. absorption of beEeve In this because the development of moisture, etc. will not arise. You can be fertiliser technology IS WIthin our reach. For saved from all these technical problems. So, that, we need not go to Holland or England or kIndly see that mini fertilizer plants are set Americaorwe need not have Italian connec- up. I would also like to state that side by side, tions. We are not to develop Italian connec· blo-chemical industry should also be given tion. We can develop our own connectIon adequate attention. You should try to de- with our own experts and expertise: and veloJ; bio-chemical fertilizers as chemical consult our experts for this laboratories are there working in this field. ThisJield can also be attracted. We can MR. CHAIRMAN' You have to conclude cultivate leguminous plants which have the now. capacity of fixing nItrogen from the atmos- phere. Similar types of bio-chemical experi- SHRI AX ROY: I will conclude In Just ments should be made and some mini bio- two m:nutes. I wo~ld like to give some sug- chemical fertilizer plants in small scale, if gestions. Str possible in the rural sector also, should be set up Lastly my concrete appeal to the hon. I do not subscnbe to the theory thaI, Minister IS that he should call a meeting of all always small IS b':'ClUtlfLJI and the big IS bad'. the concerned MPs where the Sick units are Even If it IS not true In ot'1P: caS8S. It is true located. alongwlth other experts and discuss at least in fertiliser. What r;'lW material. the about the ailmg fertilizer plants so that some fertiliser plant need? It is Nitrogen which you suggestions or some concrete proposals can get from air: raw ",n1eqal of fE'rtlliser is may come up which can be implemented to Sulphur: raw material of fertiliser is Phos- make the fertilizer plants free from loss and ollorus. raw matenai of fertl!lser IS Carbon. It become viable Units. IS the energy. which you C,ln get every- where. That IS why. you do not have to go In { Translation] for 1350 tonne pRr day capacIty plant. You SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL have some sort of faSCination to go for big (Kopargaon): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am thank- plants only. you should start small plants ful to you for having given me opportunity to with one lakh tonnes cap3clty per ye::tr You speak on the Demands for Agricultllre and start initially with small plants with a capacity Water Resources Ministries. I have given of 50000 tonnes per year. That means. in- several cut -Motions on the two subjects. The stead of a capacity of 1350 tonnes, you can Eighth Plan is about to be started very soon. 427 Demands for Grants MAY 14.1990 Wat., Resources & 428 (Gen.). 1990·91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Mr. structed but not on scientific lines. Thus, Chairman. Sir. I am not challenging your these should be constructed on scientific ruhng but I would like to know as to then my line. As regards Agricultural Science Centre, turn will come to speak (Interruptions) the ~evious Government gave an assur- ance that AgricUltural Science Centres would [English] be set up in each district but they have not been set up so far. I, therefore, request that MR. CHAIRMAN: That IS In my mind. Ag"culturaf Science Centre be set up in When 1am not on the Chair, I will satisfy you. each district. An accord has been made for sharing the water of Krishna and Godavari SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombay North). Sir, rivers among Maharashtra, Karntaka and we are not askmg you for any explana- Andhra Pradesh. The award is valid upto tion ...... <'nterruptIOns) 2000 A.D. I request that the Chief Ministers of all the three states should sit together and MR. CHAIRMAN' I am not giVing you evolve a permanent solution so that no such any explanatIOn. When I am not on the Chair, dispute again crops up in future. At present, you ask me an amount of Rs. 40 thousand IS Incurred on Ir"gation of one hectare of land by the Gov- Please continue ernment. I would like to submit that expendi- ture to be incurred on constructIOn of dams { Translatlonl and canals should be borne by the Central Government Today. farmers ha'le to make SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL We arrangements for irrigatIOn tothelr land them- are entering Into the Eighth Plan and the selves and with own resources, even by Government IS to formulate an Agricultural mortgaging their belongings. Thus they are Pohcy very soon. I would like to know certain contributing to thl'! development of the coun- things In this regard. try The farmers should be given subSidy to the wne of 40 thousand rupees. Besides. I [English] would also request to reduce the input cost of agricultural production as also inputs SHRI RAM NAIK May I pornt out that should be made available to them at an there IS no quorum In the House. Interest of four per cent. I would further request that the amount of Rs. 40 thousand MR CHAIRMAN. The bell IS being rung at present being spent by the government Now, there IS quorum The hon Member from Its exchequer on Irrigation of one hec- may continue tare of land should be given to the farmers for thiS purpose and the expenditure to be in- [ Translation] curred beyond thiS amount of forty thousand should be borne by the farmer. The Govern- SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL The ment should make arrangements to prOVide Agrrculture Policy should be formulated very water for Irrtgatlonal purposes In the desert. shortly. Agriculture and Water are closely drought prone and scarcity areas. The Egyp- related to each other because IrrigatIOn tian system of drift Irrigational purposes In cannot be done Without water As a matter of the desert. drought prone and scarcity ar- fact, Water Resources Ministry IS another eas. The Egyptian system of drift irrigation name of Irrigation MInistry There IS provI- should be adopted for the Parwara Canal in sIOn of marketing of agrICultural produce our area. Rajasthan is a desert area Mahar- such as nce and wheat etc I would like to ashtra and Telangana area in Andhra request that arrangements should be made Pradesh are also faCing acute water crisis. In for marketing, godowns and warehousing order to proper utilization Of water, schemes faclhtles for perishable goods also. The shoudl be formulated. As such, there warehouses and godowns are being con- shouldbe some proper linkage for land and 429 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources a 430 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture water use. By the Eighth Five Year Planorby I expect from the Government that they will 2000 A.D_, if the production of food grains is ensure that the belongings of the farmer are to be taken to the level of 232 lakhs M.T.S. not attached and that in the drought prone and more, apart from drift irrigation, water areas, the Government will be bear the management technology and water use expenditure on construction of one or two technology will have to be adopted. I have canals for drift irrigation purposes. This is my given cut motion also on thiS subject. The demand. British Government had constructsd a canal In Maharashtra under protective Irrigation. DR. KHUSHAL PARASRAM BOPCHE Due to drought condition, more and more (Bhandara): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the Demand water is needed and agriculture production for Grant of Water Resources and Agricul- is decreasing. As such, I urge upon the ture Ministries are being discussed and as I Government to construct a canal on Egyp- rise to speak for the first time on it, I hope that tian pattern so that drift irrigation could be you will kindly give me some extra time. made possible. In India, only 3-4 canals are constructed on this pattern The Govern- 3-4 days ago from now, a discussion ment of India should provide financial assIs- was inrtlated in the newspapers and it would tance In drought prone areas, otherWise, be appropriate if I start with the Department farmers who are already debt ridden will not of Agriculture. There are some apprehen- be able to do it with their own resources You sions In the minds of the people with regard have promised to waive loans upto Rs 10.000 to the policy of the loan waiver of the new of the farmers. Farmer have to take a loan of Government and as such it is necessary to Rs. 50.000 to Rs one lakh to bore a tube- remove the doubt by clarifying the position. well or to dig a well In drought area. If they People In the urban areas have some grudge manage to do It through taking loans, they In thiS regard. They feel that the government are not In a poSition to repay the loan and IS doing everything for the farmers only and thus their entire properties are attached In people belonging to other professions are recovery of loans So I want to say that In being Ignored as if they are not the citizens certain circumstances, for example In natu- of this country and the Government is doing ral calamities, If these loans are not repaid. nothing for them. I would like to submit that farmers properties should not be attached. waiving of loans is a dire necessity. Has As your Government IS termed as the Gov- there been any instance in this country ernment of farmer. I expect that you will not wherein even petty traders who spent an attach the utensils. land diesel engine or amount of Rs. 500 or for that matter an electriC motor pump etc of the farmer be- employee whose salary is Rs. 500 will ever cause compounr! !rterest IS charged on the accept Rs. 400. If the production cost of a loan gIven to the farmer. That IS why hiS product comes to 90 paise has it ever been condition has detellorated and he has be- sold for 80 paise? After all it is sold after come defaulter. As such. I want what com- adding adequate profit over the production pound Interest should no~ be charged on the cost and inthis way, thewholetradegoeson. loan given to the farmet for land develop- In thiS country, the only group of citizens to ment purposes and It should be given In the whom the Government has paid 70 paise for form of term loan. Simple Interest at the rate the produce whose production cost was 90 of four per cent should be charged on It I paise was the group of farmer and even in want to assure the Goverf"lment that In case thiS system, the farmers whose prime job compound Interest IS not charge. banks will was farming was rushed on account of this be In a position to recover loans very easily policy. but compound Interest,s posing a great problem. A discussion has been initiated through the newspapers that in case farming is not a Mr. Speaker, Sir. With these words. I profitable profession in this country, why thank you for haVing given me time to speak. people adopt farming as their profession? 431 o.tnands for Grants MAY 14.1990 Water RfISOUI'CeS & 432 (Gen.J. 1990·91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture {Dr. Khushat Parasram Bopche) review the various facilities being provided to him and other facilities made available tor Through you, I wish to draw the attention of agriculture purposes. we will come to know the Government towards the fact that if you that so far we have been able to provide go to the ihterior of the villages these days. itrigation facilities to a v~ry small percentage you will find that the people belonging to of land in the country. In 1he whole. country h!gher class do resort to farming not be· assured irrigation facilities are available cause they earn something from it but they hardly to 12 per cent of land. out of this. the do so in order to conceal their black money wells and ponds acoount for 6 per cent. It so 'that t~y can show it as if it has been means that the Government has so far pro- ~ earned through forming. People want to vided irrigationa' facilities to only 6 per cent transform their black money into white under ot Jalkt. While it has not been possible on our the·guise of farming. There are no two opin· part of provide full irrigation facilities. how ions in this regard that basically the farmer can we think of uplifting the farmers. If elec- depending solely on farmIng IS gradually tricity supply is interrupted for even one trailing behind. In this context. I would like to minute in the city. people make a lot of hue quote an example of Maharahtra as , am not and cry. but in villages. supply of electricity having knowledge of the entire country. In remains suspended tor 2·3 days together. Maharashtra. farmers are given loans through Due to this, sometimes the farmers finds cooperatives but at the time of giVIng loan. 5 himself helpless to save this crops. But to 10 of the amount are deducted from the nobody has paid attention to it. , feel that total amount and depoSited In that particular supply of electricity to rural areas should be bank. For example. if a farrrrer IS given a loan the first and foremostduty of the Govern- . of As. 1000. he receives As. 900 In hand and ment. Not only that transporting facilities are the balance amount of Rs. 100 IS deducted not adequate in the villages. In some places and deposited in the bank. But at the tIme of roads have not been constructed to the repayment. he has to return Rs. '000 and required number and at some places, other also pay il'lterest on the total amount whereas facilites are not available. Apart from this. it he was at no stage gIven Rs. 100. Around is also necessary to effect suitable amend- Rs. 750 crores of the farmers are kept In the ments in the Forest (Conservation) Act. I District Central Cooperative banks or In the should not be misunderstood that I am op- land development banks. If the interest on posed to preservation of environment. It is the saId amount IS calculated. it comes to Rs. very essential to safeguard the environment. 1500 crores and thiS amount will never be But it cannot be tolerated that on tile protext returned to any of the farmers and at the of environment. the development and prog- same time. it WI!I not benefit him In any ressJ>f work in the backward areas of the manner in the long run also. country should be stalled. I would cite the case of Maharashtra to you. A major part of An amOU'1t of Rs. 5 deposited in a bank Maharashtra, particularly. the vast areas of becomes double after a period of 6 years. Vidarbha region could not be developed due But the farmers are no way benefited from to the existance of reserved forests on a vast their money amounting to As. 750 crores tract of land. Though abundant water flows lying deposited in the ·banks. As such the through the area. it goes waste. It cannot be Government is not going to do any f",vour to preserved. A number of projects in the re- the farmers by its iOi'ln waiver announce- gion either lie incomplete for want of clear- ment. It IS theIr fundaml?ntal right. Through ance from the forest department or have you. I would like to tell the government that it been held up under some other provisions of will be a mistake on thp part of the govern- the Act. About 90 per cent projects of the ment if it claims that loan waIver scheme is a Vidarbha region re-affected by the above favour to the farmers. problem-and due to operation of Forest Conservation Act. the farmers cannot enjoy If we see the condition of thA farmer. the facilities of waterfrom these projects. For 433 Demands for Grants 'JAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Wafer RssoulCSS & 434 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricuhu", example. I would like to draw your attention people to cities continues unabated. This to Umarjari Project in Bhandara district. 90 flow must be checked. Otherwise. they will per cent work of which has since been migrate to cities and cause more problems completed. This project constructed at a for the Government. cost of Rs. 1.12 crores is lying useless as it attracts the provision of Forest Conservation 14.42 hr•. Act. The farmers are getting little benefit from this project. It is not only the lone case. [SHAIMATI GEETA MUKEHRJEE in the but there are as many as 132 such projects Chair) in Bhandara district alone. Even now, we give much stress on forest conservation. But Madam, Chairman. it is very necessary without preservation of water conservation to check the flow of people from village to the of forest becomes meaningless. Man needs cities. For that. it is necessary to make the water first. OtherWise, it will be a kind of villages self-reliant. For self-reliance of the mummification of the country. As such, in villages. agriculture should be made self- order to provide all facilities, the agriculture reliant. Agriculture can be made self-reliant policy should be evolved in such a way' that when adequate provisions of electricity and the ~eal benefits reach the villages. It is nice water are made. When these facilities can be that the Government has decided to spend made, flow of people from rural areas to 50% of resources on agriculture. But as long cities could be checked. as these .projects are ("1ot completed. the villagers cannot receive the full benefits of Madam Chairman, during the course of this provision. There are reserved forest on discussion, it was brought to the notice of the 40 per cent land in the districts of Bhandara, august House that farm workers working in Chandrapur Garchlroli. The hon. Minister of agriculture fields have also started coming to State for environment and forests. Shnmati cities in search of jobs. They are no way at Maneka Gandhi Srlys that forests are neces- fault for this. Since they get less wages in the sary on 33 per c.ent of land Then why clear- villages and more in the cities. they come to ance is not being given to projects In these cities. Why do they get less wages in the distncts? It IS not known as to how Jurapi villages. It is because the farmers in the forest came in the way? The forests which villages are poor. They cannot be provided were earmarked 3S grazing areas durrng the modern equipments for their agriculture. That period of kings stdl come under the Revenue IS why they give less wages. H people con- Department. If these forests are transferred tinue to migrate to Cities in this way, what- to Forest Department. we will not be required ever balanced Budget, the Govemment might to seek aid from others for these projects and make, there will be problems both in the all these projects will be completed auto- villages and in the cities and there will be matically. I would. therefore. like to request disorders at both the places. you to initiate action to transfer these forests to the Forest Department. Madam Chairman, I have already placed before you problems pertaining to electriCity • Mr. Chairman, Sir. though various laws water and environment. Now. I would like to have been enacted to remove unemploy- say something about fertilizers. The prices ment but mere enactment of laws would not of foodgrains hardly increase by Rs. 4-5 a serve any purpose. It is also not possible on quintal in a season whereas the prices of the part of the Government to prOVide jobs to fertilizers increase manifold during the same each and every person. It IS, therefore. period. A bag fulloffertilizercosts Rs. SO. But necessary today that the flow of people from due ttl artificial shortage caused during the villages to cities should be checked. The season, the price of the same bag shoots villages should be made self-reliant. Out of upto As. 80. In this way. the farmers are the total populatIOn, 80 per cent population being putto hardships. As such, there should lives in 5. 761akh Villages. Mrgratlon of village be reasonable inctease in the prices of fertil- 435 ~ for Granrs MAY 14,1990 WaNr~& G6 (Gen.J. 1990-9 f Min. 01 MIn. of AQricuIIute (Or. -Khushal Parasram 8opcha] far as the question of Punjab in COfIC8m8d, I would likato say • few words about it. The itars. Due cara should be takan in this re- firSt thing is that people should get good gard. quality fattflizar and inSec:ttcktes'on subsi- dies rates. Secondly, at least 30 sugar mills Madam Chairman. though fruit is pr0- should be set up in Punjab. Thirdly keeping duced in abundant quantities in our country. in view in injustice done to Punjab 80 far in the processing work is not done with that regard to distribution of water. the principle promptitude. It is therefore. necessary to of riparian rights' which is accapted the World develop the fruit processing industry. In order over should be made applicable in the matter. to have more cash crops grown by the farm- of distribution of water. More subsidy should ers. adequate processing arrangements 'must be provided for cultivation of 011 seeds and be made. Due to shortage of processing pulses and poultry farming as also tor im- units. the processing wort< costs more. As a parting training to the farmers in technical result. the consumers will have to pay more knCWI-how. So far as the disfribution of water price tor the processed fruit products. Apart is concerned, it is a dispute which is directly from that the farmers also suffer losses due connected with the Punjab problem or we to sickness in marketing. The Government can say that it is a maior issue but I would like should take this· aspect into account. Simi- to point out that a lot of injustice has been larly. fishery could be developed well in done in this matter. Punjab deserves to be Mahara~ra. Today, there is a need to allotted a major share in the agro-based encourage the farmers to undertake fishery. industries. SO far as fruits and vegetables In Maharashtra, people are very fond of are concerned their growers too should be fishregard in potatele water. I( the Govern- given a reasonable price for their produce. I ment could mClke some arrangements for have stated earlier t"at the number of sugar fishery, it will provide a source of good en- mills should be increased to 30 in the State gagement for the farmers. There are some of Punjab at the earliest. At present this areas where no cultivation could be done. number is less than even 15. The construc- Canals also can be dug on this land. The tion WOrt< of Kanoi Canal was started very quality of la'nd in our country changes after late and it is nowhere near completion. Since every few kilometres-due to geographical there is an acute problem of drinking water, factors. "tube-wells could be Installed in this efforts should be made to soivethis problem. type of land with 50 percent subsidy, the So far as the water resources in Puniab are farmers will definitely benefited. This will concerned. I do have the figures relating to help the farmers in getting assured irrigation ground water resources and irrigated area. for the land through which canals cannot be The Ministry is well aware of them and I do taken. Through you, I am making all these not want to take the time of the House to poil'tts to the Government. I am hopeful that present these figures. my points will definitely be considered. I would like to thank you for providing me a I would like to tell the Government that little more time with this, I conclude. the number of tubewells in Punjab has in- creased so much that more than ha" of the SHRI KIRPAl SINGH (Amritsar): I would crops depend on tubewells. Due to this, the like to lay more emphasis on the situation ground water level has gone very down and that continues in Punjab regarding distribu- the hand pumps are becoming useless. The tion of water. So far as our country is con- other type of machines which can be used cerned. all the water resources available in for this purpose are beyond the reach of the country were not mobilised. Instead, the farmers. Water resources are depleting. The rulers in India created inter-state disputes result would be that the land of Punjab will be and the whole water was wasted as it flowed converted into a desert. I have with me the un utilised. Till today no decision has been complete figures relating to share of water arrived at regarding utilisatIOn of water. So that was allotted 10 Punjab at the time of 437 Dsmands for Grants VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 438 (Gsn.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture partition as wen as at the time of division of is not irrigated due to shortage 01 water as Its Punjab when a new State Haryana was sources of water are being snatched. Hthese carved out but I do not want to go into these sources of water are allowed to be utilised by figures. The base that was accepted in re- the State, famine can never hit our country. spect of sharing of waters between Punjab The facilities which should be provided to and Haryana has not been followed. The them are not being given to them. On the State of Punjab was provided two irrigation contral)' tho resources provided to them by systems-Sarhind Canal and Yamuna the nature are being snatched away from Canal. When decision was taken regarding them. Thus injustice is being do!le to them. sharing of water between Punjab and Har- I would like to request the hon'ble Minister in yana. the water of Yamuna canal was not this House that this issue is pending since distributed and the rest of the water was long. Nothing has been done in this matter. distributed among them. The people of Whosoever came forward to solve this tangle, Punjab filed a suit In the Supreme Court complicated it further. There is no such dis- about the distribution of water. praying that ease which is incurable. But instead of solv- Since the peopJe of Punjab did not get their Ing this Issue, they politicalised it and compli- due share. justice should be done to them in cated it further. Every time they behaved in the matter 01 distributIOn of water. That case a manner as if Punjab was a country outside was withdrawn by the Chief Minister of Punjab India- and if water was made available to at the instance of the Central Government or Punjab it would be going out of our country. at the instance of the then Prime Minister They felt as if Punjab would no longer remain Shrimatl Indira Gandhi. i! , may say so. and part of India if additional rights were given to accepted Centre's mediation 10 the matter. them. I know those people who are laying The decision taken by them was very harm- emphasis on the unity and integrity of the ful forthe people of Pun)aband In due course country to whatever party they belong. It is of timet his dispute gat linked With the Punjab they who had first of all raised the issue of problem. Punjabi and said that it was not their lan- guage. They said that only those people "Har Charaga~ ko Charagan se gureJ lived in Punjab whose mother tongue was tha. Punjab!. This resulted in a dispute. It was Varna Hamen iO dukh the koi ladawa na assumed that the water given to Punjab the." would go to the houses of Sikhs and that it would not go to the Hindus. Such mentality It was accepted in the RaJlv Longowal gave a big jolt to basic values and basic Accord that shanng of water between the structure, as every decision on the issue was States of Rajasthan. Punjab and Haryana taken with a biased view. I would like to say will continue 10 the ratio as existed in July that so far as the water resources are co.n- , 985. but the remaining water will be distrib- cerned, the Government should pay atten- uted. The Commissions which were set up In tIon to the fact that most of the farmers have connection with sharing of waters and Simi- installed their own tubewells by spending a lar other Issues. have strange stones of their large amount as cost of tubewells. Apart own. The people of the whole country were from that they pay for the electricity con- surprised that they did not work on the sub- sumed. At present one third of the total fect assigned to them. It is very wrong on the tubewells installed in Punjab are operating part of any judge to do so. with diesel. This time the Government have increased the price of diesel, I had made a So far as the question of supply of request in may first speech on Punjab Budget Irrigation water to Punjab is concerned. the that the rate of diesel which IS used for malor problem facIOg the state is that it has varIOus agricultural operations and for run- only 1.6 per cent of the total cultivable land in ning tubewells. threshers and tractors etc. the country, yet it IS prodUCing 55 per cent of should not be Increased, rather subsidy totalfoodgralns. The rp.mainlngland In Punjab should be given on it. The issue of drought in 439 Demands fo, Grants MAY 14.1990 Water Resources & 440 (Gen.). 1990·91 Min. of M;n. of At/ricultu", [Sh. Kirpal Singh) ings, of the House. You think that I am snatching away anybody's right to speak. I the country is raised in the House. The Hon. would conclude by saying that injustice has Members from Madhya Pradesh as well as been done to the people of Punjab in the other states talk of drought and scarcity of matter of distribution of water which was water of their respective States. When the even to them by nature. H the present·Gov- nature has bestowed a state with such re- ernment is honest, due share should be sources that it can produce 55 per cent of given to them, and if the Government fails to country's total foodgrains production in just do justice to them, then their name too will be 1.6 per cent of the total area. why the Gov- added to the list of dishonest men. I sincerely\ ernment should not make efforts to provide wish that their name should not be included irrigation facilities to rest of its land to solve in that list and they would do justice to the this problem on a permanent basis. H this is people of Punjab. This justice will be in the done the people of Punjab will feel proud and interest of the common man, the country and they will not nu rse a feeling of d iscrim ination. the world as a whole. It will also be helpful in providing foodgrains to the people of our Besides traditional crops the farmer of country. Punjab should be provided more facilities for raising cash crops. because they have proved With these words I thank you. by their hard work that they have a capacity to accomplish such a big task. MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. Members, the time has been fixed by the House. It has MR. CHAIRMAtt: Shri Kirpal Singh. been extended by the House. The Chair is please do not take It ill. Your time is over. bound by that. A long list of Speakers is there. It I request any han. member not to SHRI KIRPAL SINGH: Their problems take long time. that is your own will and not should be solved .... mine, Kindly cooperate without any rancour in mind. MR. CHAIRMAN: Your time is over. Now I call upon Shri Dasai Chowdhary SHRI KIRPAL SINGH: Am I speaking to speak. After that, the Minister of State in about an unnecessary Issue? the Department of Agriculture and Coopera- tion in the Ministry of Agriculture Shri Nitish MR. CHAIRMAN: You are speaking Kumar will intervene. about a very Important Issue. But there are also other members to speak. [Translation] SHRI KIRPAL SINGH: There are also SHRt DASAI CHOWDHARY (Rosera): such members In the House who are not Mr. Chairman. Sir, it is correct that if there is taking permiSSion from the Chairperson. 10 a class which is backward even after 42 members from thiS side and 20 from that side years of independence. it is that of farmers. stand up and start speaking. whether any- The condition of the farmer is deteriorating one listens listens to them or not. They take day by day. the main cause of which is wrong pride in creating such a situation. Many poliGj.es and wrong intentions of the govern- seasoned and respectable Members are ment. I want to point out that seeds corpora- present in the House. They seldom respect tions of the Central and State governments the orders of the Ohair. but you are very do not have the production capacity to meet particular in pointing out this thing to me. If the requirement of farmers, as a result the you want I Will sit down. I would not mind. corporations have to purchase sub-stan- dard seeds produced by private agencies. I would like to make only two points and The seed so procured is provided to farmers I want them to be recorded, in the proceed- and the farmers lose entir~ crop. For ex- 441 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 442 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture ample, I w,ant to tell you that the Chairman of banks and some officials swallow that money the Vishokoman I do not want to mention his by way of bribe. As an hon. member was name--was the known mafia of co-opera- saying, the funds allocated for the farmers tives. The Minister of Bihar, Shri Nitish Kumar do not reach them. Therefore, I want to and Shri Upendra Nath Verma know that implore upon our National Front Govern- sub-standard seed was purchased from ment which has made promises in its mani- Vishkoman throughout the country and the festo to the people, and our hon. Prime same seed was supplied to the farmers Minister also talks of the value based poli- during 1984-85. When 1armers sowed it there tics, that if the programmes formulated for was no production of wheat and they lost the upliftment of the farmers. for their bene- entire crop, I want to say that officials of the fits a"d development are implemented in the Seeds Corporations and Vishkoman should interests of the farmers' in the country. then be punished. The politicians who are ap- no class will face problems, no class will pointed as Chairmen of these corporations have any type of problems. should also be penalised for accepting sub- standard seed. Only then the farmers will be Madam Chairperson Darjina Phuian benefited. Dam on the Kosi river was approved by Janata Party Government in 1977 and Bihar I want to tell you that whether there IS Government had started construction work drought. flood or any other natural calamity, on it. But when Congress Government came it is the farmer who suffers. The Crop I!"sur- in to power in 1980, work on partially com- ance Scheme is there. But have the Govern- pleted dam was abandoned. Half of this dam ment given compensation under Crop Insur- IS stitt lying incomplete as a result of which ance Scheme for losses Incurred by the nearby villages are submerged by floods farmers due to floods, drought and natural and lakhs of people are rendered homeless calamities in the country? Lakhs of farmers and the people have to be shifted to some had suffered heavy losses due to severe other places. I want to submit to the Govern- earthquake and floods in Bihar partlcular:y in ment that the Darjina Phuian Dam which was Ghanshyampur, Viral, Kachashwar Sthal, sanctioned in 1977, should be completed at Rosera, Bahen, Sindia, Hassanpur Daon, the earliest. We had also made a request to Barinnagar blocks of the Darbhanga and our State Minister, Shri Kotadia in this re- Samastipur districts in 1987. Have the farm- gard. I have also raised this issue in this ers of these blocks been given compensa- House many times. Therefore, I request that tion under the Crop Insurance Scheme till efforts should be made for the completion of now? The tarmer of the these regions have this tllam. not been given compensation for the losses Incurred by them. No loans have been pro- I also want to say that the officials vided to them. Therefore, I want to say that charged with the responsibility of formulat- laws are enacted by every Government. The ing schemes in the interests of the and forthe Congress Government also enacted laws development and upliftment of farmers are for the welfare of farmers, the present Gov- ignorant of the difficulties faced by the farm- ernment also wants to do somethrng for ers. Therefore, at the time of formulating them but unless the people involved III therr such schemes and programmes information Implementation are honestthe benefits which should be collected from the representative the Government wants to extend to the f arm- of farmers and they should also be repre- ers will not reach them. The Government sented in the plan formulating committees provide loans to the poor, to the farmers so that the benefit ot such scl!emes really under I.R.D.P. and many other schemes. I percolates down to farmers. do not want to say about other States. but in Bihar where the loans are provided to the There is a serious problem of drainage farmers even 50 per cent of them do not in North Bihar. Hon. Nitish Kumarji and reach the farmeTs. The money remains in Vermaji know about it. Some Schemes were 443 Demands for Grants MAY 14.1990 w.,.,.~.. 444 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of lAIn. atAgtiaJ/IufrI [Sh. Dasai ChowdharyJ "The Speaker shall not be bound bV the 1st or order in which names have sent for appIOVaibythe~of Bihar been given bV parties or groups or in this regatd but Congress Government individuals direcdy. The list shal be for here did not approve them. As a resul. the his guidance only and it shall also be people of North Bihar are suffering. No always open to him to make change scheme in connection with drainage system wherever necessary in order that has been approved so far by the Centre. his debates are regulated in ax::ordance my submission to the Government that the with the genwal prinqJles laid down drainage schemes which were sent by the bV Speaker from time to time.· government of Bihar should be considered and approved so that people of Bihar can get [ Translalion) relief. SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI: We are In the last, I want to say that Bihar not chalenging your prerogative. You are in experienced severe hailstorm and snowfall the Chair. we will obey your orders. but there on 29th March and Dharbhanga, Mujaffaru- is an issue which I want to raise before the pur. Samastipur and Varshali districts were hon. Minister replies. badly affected. but no assistance has been provided to the people of Bihar. I demand MR. CHAIRMAN: I have already told that a team to assess the losses should be you that Shri Nitish Kumar will intervene in sent there and compensation paid to the the debate and after that you will be allowed farmers under the Crop Insurance Scheme. to speak. With these words I express my gratitude [English] to you for giving me time to speak. MR. CHAIRMAN: I am trying to give SHRI KAPil DEV SHASTRf(Sonepat): time to all those who want to speak. Please Madam. please give me a tew· mlnlltes to finish your speech within time. speak. I want to put forth my VIPWS. [ Translation] MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. MInister will reply later. let the Mintstpr of State speak first. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN (Sasaram): CO-OPERATK>N IN THE MINISTRY OF Are you calling the members according to AGRICULTURE (SHRI NITISH KUMAR): the order of the list of the speakers given to Madam Chairperson. First of aU, I want to you by the parties or the order is being express regret for my absence during the changed. We have been waiting for our turn, proceedings of the House for the whole our turn IS not coming due to change in the week, I could not listen the views of the Hon. order of the list. Members. I was in Patna due to high fever for the whole week. After returning. I got oppor- [English] tunity to speak on the supplementary de- mands for grants of the Ministry of Agricul- ture.lwanttothankyouforthis.About76per MR. CHAIRMAN: This is the preroga- cent of our population still depends on agri- tiveofthe Chair. privi~oftheChair. Butfor culture in the OlUntry and its total contrbu- your information all that I can say is that what tion in indigenous production is about 49 per I have been advised by the speaker and the cent. The agricultural-sector has to respond pr~VIOUs Chairman I am going accordingly. to absorption of our large manpower. This is For the information of the hon. Member, let the reason that poverty still haunts rural me read out the concerned rule: areas and there is great eConomic disparity 445 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 446 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture between urban and rural areas. The policy of this scheme. This scheme will continue in the National Front Government is to develop 1990-91 also. At present, there are some the rural areas and agriculture. Therefore, it difficutties in including non-Ioaneefarmers in was announced that haH of the Budget out- this scheme, because sufficient funds and lay would be earmarked for these sectors. other administrative measures are required According to the announcement allocations for this purpose. Under the present circum- have been made and 49 per cent of the total stances, it appears to be impossible. Provi- Budget outlay is being spent on these sec- sion is being made for Ioanee farmers under tors. Since Independence, we have made Comprehensive Crop Insurance Scheme in progress in the fiAld of agriculture. It is a fact 1990-91. I would like to tell you that the that we have not made the desired progress claims of Rs. 580 crores have been cleared because agriculture was not given due im- so far under the Crop Insurance Scheme portance in earlier plans. But agriculture is whereas only Rs. 87 crore have been re- being given priOrity in the Eighth Five Year ceived as premium. It is true that there was Plan. The monsoon was not good in 1989-90 a devastating flood in Bihar in 1987. The in comparison to 1988-89, but even then it people did not get help due to various rea- was quite suffiCient in 1989-90. The growth sons. There is no time to go in details about rate of agricultural production is quite satis- it. I personally know that all claims have not factory in comparison to the year 1950-51. been settled. Questions have been raised in Though monsoon in 1989-90 was not very this regard in Bihar also. good, the production of foodgrains has been of the order of 173 M. T. as compared to Madam Chairperson. loan waiver 170.2 M. T. In 1988-89. It is estimated that scheme is being implemented according to 110 lakh of cotton bales. 210M. T. of sugar- the manifesto of the National Front. The cane is likely to be produced. Our target for House IS aware that the hon. Minister of the year 1990-91 tor foodgralns production Finance had mentioned in his Budget speech is 176.5 M.T.. for oil seeds it is 17.5 M.T., for that all loans upto Rs. 10,000 of Commercial sugarcane. It IS 220 M T.. and for cotton. our Banks or Regional Rural Banks wi" be target IS 105 lakh bales and for Jute It is 90 waived. The State Governments have been lakh balps. We hope that not only we will asked to formulate loan relief schemes for achieve the target. but we are also likely to writing off loans taken from the State Coop- cross it due to our agriculture policy. We will erative Banks and the Central Government make more progress in the field of agrlcul- will also provide requisite help. The Govern- ture-ln the Eighth Five Year Plan. Madam ment iscommitted tofulfilthe promises made Chairperson. several Members have referred by It. to many Issues. Just now the hon. Member Shri Oasai Chowdhary had spoken about Madam Chairperson. the issue of natu- seeds I would like to tell the august House ral calamities has been discussed several that NatIOnal Seed Project phase-IH IS going times. It has been stated that affected people to start with the hp~p of the World Bank. It do not get the help. Seminars were held from would improve the functioning of the Na- time to time. There has not been any uniform tional and State level Seed Corporations an policy to provide equal help to each State. sllch Corporations would be developed The Recently, the Hon. Prime Minister announced Private Sector Will also get certified seeds. that separate calamity relief fund will be set The seeds ot good quality Will be developed up for each State. For this fund, 25 per cent which would naturally Increase the produc- share will be provided by the State Govern- tion. ments and 75 per cent by the Central Gov- ernment. You must be knowing that recently The second POint raised by Shri Oasai the cyclone hit state of Andhra Pradesh and Chowdhary was about crop insurance. Ac- many other States have been sanctioned tion is taken on the claims submitted in thiS Rs. 32 crores from this proposal ftInCt. which regard and loanae fi'lrmers are covered lInder has almost been constituted and details of 447 Demands for Grants MAY 14, 199Q Wat., Resourcss & 448 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of AgricultulYl [Sh. Naish Kumar) prices; to provide inputs like seeds and fer- tilizers of good quality to the farmers, to which have almost been finaltsed. Similarly provide letter acilities or to protect farmers a hailstorm occurred in Bihar, the Deputy from the exploitation by middlemen, higher Prime Minister and Central team had visited support prices have been announced in this that State and I was also present there. The regard. This year the rate of support prices State Government wanted to provide imme- have been increased for every agricultural diate relief. Therefore, assistance was sought item. The entire House knows that the sup- from the central Government. An amount of port price of wheat has been fired at As. 215 Rs. 54 lakhs has been provided to the Bihar per quintal. Similarly the In support prices of Government from this fund. I want to tell the other items have also been increased. This han. Members that even though It is a state Government is conscious to provide benefits subject and the State Governments them- and relief to the farmers through every selves formulate rehef codes for calamities, scheme. On the one Side various agencies and prOVide relief to the affected people, but are working in the market on the baSIS of setting up of a calamity rehef fund IS a revo- support prices to protect the farmers from lutionary step. the exploitation of middlemen and to prOVide them relief and another Side the Govern- Madam Chairperson, I would like to ment Intervenes In the market. Recently the draw the attention of the house to the fact government Intervened in the matter of on- that thiS Government IS conscIous to the Ion. need of ma~lng the Co-operative Instrtutlons Madam Chairperson. the House IS aware strong and dynamiC The coperatrve Institu- that fhe Central Government and the State tions have made commendable contrrbutlon governments have to bear the loss equally. for strengthlng the economy of rural areas In but the Government of Maharashtra has various states The Planning Commission refused to bear that loss. The Central Gov- has constituted a committee underthe Chair- ernment has Intervened In the matter of manship of Choudhry Brahm Prakash to omon VarIOus Programmes are being Im- strengthen these institutions and to make plemented to prOVide rehef to the farmers them more effective and dynamiC. The gov- and we want to run them more effectively ernment IS taking all these steps to fulfil Its promises A demand has been raised sev- A lot of progress 15 likely be made In the eral times that agriculture should be treated field of milk production under the Operation at par wrth Industry A Committee has been Flood Programme The Opel atlon Flood constituted under the chairmanship Shrl Programme Phase-III IS gOIng to start shortly. Bhanu Pratap Singh to look Into the need for The 60 percent populatIOn of the country Will treating agriculture as an Industry, to deter- be covered under thiS scheme. There IS a mine the nature of agriculture products to be prOVISion of Rs. 1342.55 crore In the Erghth reported as also the policy regarding their Five Year Plan under th,s scheme as against export~ and the targets for export. The tn- Rs. 603 41 crore dUring the Seventh F,ve terlm report of thiS Committee Will also be Year Plan. In thiS way we will make a lot of submitted shortly A Sztandlng AdVISOry progress in the f,eld of dairy. We have made Committee has been constituted under the so much progres3 In the field of dairy. prod- Chairmanship of popular farmer leader Shrl ucts that we have asked the European Sharad Joshi to give practical and policy EconomIC Community to give us help in cash related suggestIOns In the matters of devel- and not In the terms of dairy products. We opment of agriculture. The Committee gtves are making notable progress In thiS field. suggestions on the matters referred to It from KeepIng in view the requirements of Deihl time to tIme regardmg the pohcy and Imple- the Government has proposed to open third mentatIOn. The Department of AgrICulture IS dIary 01 the capacity ot 10ur \akh htres per day working as the MInistry of Farmers Welfare. In Deihl. The Government wants to protect whether It IS a question of remunerative the Imerests of both-the producers and 449 Demands for Grants VAI5AKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water RssoufCfIs & 450 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min of Min. of Agriculture consumers. production can be increased. The 76 per cent population of our country are depend- The contributIOn of research work of the ent on the agriculture. H agricultura1 produc- I.C.A.R. for progress made in the field of tion will increase the economic condition of agriculture is very laudable. 50 much of 76 per cent of our people will improve. Their development was not possible without its purchasing power will also increase which contribution. The research IS going on round- would result in more demand and more the-clock in the fields of food grains, oil production and job opportunities on a large seeds, fishing and dairy development. Wide will be created. I am very happy to announce that about Therefore, the agricultural policy 1 00 improved varieties of seeds have been adopted by the National Front under the successfully developed About 35,000 quin- dynamIC leadership of Shri Vishwanath tal breeder seeds have been produced. Pratap Singh and Ch. Devi Lal will prove These are the achievements of the I C.A.A. beneficial to the farmers of the country and it Various steps are being taken to put technol- would lead to agricultural development. With ogy Into the practice and about 300 centres these words, I would request the hon. are dOing research In 104 dlstncts for prOVid- Memberstowrthdrawtheircutmotionsmoved Ing helptothefarmers. Vanousprogrammes In regard to various Issues and after the hon. like lab to land are running for prOViding up- Minister of State gives reply they should to-date information to the farmer so that they unanimously support the demands forgrants. can use advanced technology for agricul- tural production. The Agriculture Commis- ~HRI RAMESHWAR PRASAD (Arrah): sion has recommended that agricultl)ral People have been waiting to get loans, but SCience centres should be opened In each he IS not making any mention in this regard. dlstnct by the year 2000 AD and the steps Agnculturalland IS there but no provision has are being taken In thIS direction. Priority IS been made for the de-centralisation and being given to rain fed areas for Increasing Improvement of land programmes. About production and productIVIty In those areas. 1 0- acres if land possessed by a few people The Plan outlay for development pro- IS being wasted by not utilising it for cultiva- grammes under this sector IS being substan- tion purposes. tially Increased There IS a prOVISIon of Rs. 8025 crore for the year 1990-91 whereas It SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Vermaji will was only Rs 19 crore In the year 1989-90 speak There IS more scope In Plantation of frUit trees forthe small f;"lrmers who can not earn [Engltsh] profit by prodUCing food graIns and publicity IS being given to thiS fact so that they can MA. CHAIRMAN. The Minister Y >'':lly lead a better hfe The contributIon of the and after that you can seek clarifl~a\. _ 15, if I.C.A.A.. whether It IS a question of good need be quality seeds or other fields IS very com- mendable. I would like to appeal to the han SHRI N SUNDARAJ (Pudukkottai): Members In thiS regard that India IS predom 1- Madan Chairman, I would likl'! to support the nantty an agncultural country haVing various cut motIOns presented by my Party Mem- types of chmate. Irtnd and caste land There bers regarding Water Resources and Agri- IS a scheme to plant trees on 70 lakh hectare culture. As regards dIsputes, there are water of land undertheWaste Land MISSion It Will dlsowtes between the States throughout the help In the production of fodder and f Ire wood co~ntry. Here. most of the Members spoke Will also be available which would result on the disputes between two States pertain- energy. All these schemes are being ran by Ing to water. These disputes have been the Department 01 Agriculture for Improving there for there last 43 years, but we were not the economic conditions of the farmers and able to take any deCISion It is high time that 451 Demands lor Grants MAY 14.1990 WarM RfMOCIICfIS • 4t52 (GMI.). 1990-91 Min. of Afin.oI~ [Sh. N. Sundara!) for seending this matt... to the Tribunal because it is a matter which could be settled we do something to senle the disputes be- as early as possible. I woutd request th tween the States. For this. we can either go Govemment to appoint a Tribunal immedi- in for Water Commission or Water Grid. Only ately and to sa that this matter is settled then you will be able to settle the whole within six months see that the agriculturists matter of disputes throughout the States in in Tamil Nadu are not affected henceforth. the country. As far as agriculture is concerned. the As far as Tamil Nadu is concerned. we Minister has accepted that 76 per cent of the are having water dispute with Karnataka for total population of India lives in rural areas '. the past 20-25 years. Till 1971-72, the total and it is so. It is the backbone of the Indian water utilised by both the States was 560 economy. As the Deputy Prime Minister and TMG. We had at Menur Dam. the quan·um of Agriculture Minister has stated earlier, nearly 380 TMC till 1972-72. Today we are pre- 374 members of Parliament are elected from pared to forego 100 TMC and we will be rural areas and they have the agricultural satisfied with getting 280 TMC but that is not background. It is because the population possible since Karnataka is not able to re- lives in the rural areas. It is not a feather on lease that quantum. till 1971-72. Karnataka a cap of the Government to have 374 was using only 177 TMC. Now it demands Me rqpe rs of Parliament coming from agricul- 414 TMC. This is round about 2 112 times tural background but it is the state of affairs more than what they had used till 1971-72. in this country. Most of the people live in the The riparian right of the delta Government rural areas and they send their representa- should be recognised as it is recognised tives to parliament. throughout the world as far as water right is concerned. The dernand of Tamil Nadu MR. CHAIRMAN: I will request you to be should be considered in the light of agricul- brief. The total time is very little. turist who are having their farms there and utilising this water for irrigation throughout SHRI N. SUNDARAAAJ: As a father, I centuries. I am thankful to the Supreme am the competent person to name my child. Court for having taken this deCision to send But as a farmer, I am notable to fix the price this matter to the Tribunal. But as far as of my product. That is the pathetic condition Government is concerned. I understand that here. An industrialist who is able to produce it is a weak government. Since the Prime Colgate tooth-powder and tooth-paste can Minister being represented by both the put whatever price he may like. But a man States-Karnataka and Tamil Nadu-he IS producing rice or wheat or banana or any not able to give direction or take a decision in frurt, is not able to put a price on that. He has this regard. He has simply said that the court no discretion. The Government is more will decide. This is not a way in which the concerned with the'consumers rather than Prime Minister of the country should deal with producers. We wantto help those people with this matter. It is because he IS afraid of who live in the towns, in- the metropolitan antagornsing some State or some people. cities but we do not care for the people who But at thQ same time. Madam Chairperson. produce and at the same time who have no I would like the Karnataka Government to clothes and who have only one or two square desist from going for the review petition in meaft. a day and who lead a rotten way of the Supreme Court on the verdict given by living. the Supreme Court for sending this matter to the 'Tribunal because it is a matter which The Deputy Prime Minister is saying could be settled as early as possible. I would that there are 374 Members of Parliament request the Government to desist from going from agriculture sector. What is the use of for the review petition in the Supreme Court having 400 Members from agriculture back- on the verdict given by the Supreme Court ground coming here? They ar not able to do 453 Demands lor Grants VAISAKHA24.1912 (SAKA) Water Resoutces & 454 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture justice to the people living in the rural areas. SHRI N_ SUNDARARAJ: We have 374- This year 50% of the total budget is allocated Members from agricultural society. to the agriculture sector. We are only doing what we have already done. We have al- MR, CHAIRMAN: You can speak only ready allotted 50% in the Budget. We are for two minutes more. implementing it. But there is no difference. There is no pride in saying that they have SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: I am the last allocated 50% of the total budgetary provi- memberto speak. As far agricultural policy is sions. concerned, it should be based on the State policy. Every State should have its own As far as fertiliser is concerned. subsidy policy. Only then it can be coordinated with does not help the rural agriculturist. It is the Centre. The Centre should not adopt being manipufated by the big factories. by policy in Delhi and see thai it is implemented the middlemen and those people who sell in a remote village in Tamil Nadu, Bihar and the fertiliser to the agriculturists. Rajasthan. That is not going to improve the status of the agriculturist. It should be imple- mented -only from the lower level. Subsidy should reach the agriculturists themselves. Only then they will be helped. We should see to the needs of the local population. Wheat is grown in Punjab, rice in As far as the programmes In the Agricul- Tamil Nadu. sugarcane in Maharashtra ture Department are concerned. our ra- Different products are produced in different spec1ed Shri Rajiv Gandhi. when he was the States and that should be coordinated by the Prime Minister said that only 20% of the total Centre and the Centre should not have a allotment reaches the populatIOn direct to policy of its own as far as agriculture is whom it has been made. 80% of the alloca- concerned. tIOn is SWindled or pilfered by the middlemen or by the officers. Shri Rajiv Gandhi also said As far as Jawahar Rozgar Yojna is that when ihe Government wants to spend concerned. I am thankful to the then Prime one rupee on a rural labourer. the Govern- Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi for implementing ment. to have an administrative machinery the scheme whereby the Panchayats are like lAS Officers, Deputy Collectors, T ahsil- directly able to decide about whal are the dars, and all those officials, will have to executive things like building schools. pan- spend Rs. 5/-. to have the administrative set chayats, making river beds etc. and imple- up. On one rupee. the Government has ment it to the satisfactIOn of the local people. again to spend Rs 5·- ThiS IS the pathetic condition of this Government hierarchy to- MR CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. day, the Government set up today and the Government way of dOing things today. This SHRI N. SUNOARARAJ: ItwiHjusttake should be changed. There IS no pOint in one minute. As far as waiving of loans is saymg that 374 Members of Parliament are concerned. I am sorry for it and I ask the from the agrICulture secror. Government not to play gimmicks with the lives of farmers of this country. Just by say- MR. CHAIRMAN' ThiS should be your ing abut it in their manifesto that they will be last pomt. able to waive loans up to As. 10,000 will not do. They have allocated only Rs 1,000 aores SHAI N. SUNDARAAAJ: I would like to for this whereas Rs. 24 crores is needed for make some more points waving of this loan as far as agriculture is concerned. And moreover, States have been MR. CHAIRMAN: You can make those asked to identify the agriculturists as far as pomts on another day. This IS not the last crop loans are concerned which will be reim- day. bursed by the Cenfre to the States. When 455 Dtlmands tor Grams MAY14,1990 wafwR.sGW"ces & 456 (Gsn.). 199n-91 Min. of MIn. of AgricuItuffl [Sh. N. SundararaiJ sible. That is why, I am requesting the Members to stick to five minutes. are you going to do it? How many years are you going to take to implement the scheme? 5HRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (5a- The States are not going to implement the iem)~ I have no objection to your fixing scheme because they fear that the burden anything. BUt I think, it is my duty to bring to wilt be more on them. I request the Govern- the notice of the House that it was decided ment not to play gimmicks on this issue and around 2 0' clock today and we would kindly issue a White Paper on this waiving of complete the Demands of Water Resources loans to agriculturists. (Interruptions) and Agriculture and then we would take up I Demands of Labour and Welfare and tomor- ' MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. row we would have guillotine. Iwould like just This is the last thing. to go on record and say that then this guillo- tine will have to be postponed because you SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: As far as this are reducing the time of the Demands on Government is ooncerned, they should have Labour and Welfare which will also not be a clear cut policy as fas as agriculture is fair. I am not objecting to your decision to concerned. Just bV saying that we have 370 conclude this Demand by 6 O' clock. ~nd odd elected Members in ths House witt: the agricultural background is not going to MR. CHAIRMAN: As I understand. satisfy 74 per cent of the total population of guillotine is fixed for 3 O' clock tomorrow. thiS oountry. This Government can do some- thing only by implAmenting schemes which SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: That are true to the natur"'. true to the people, true is what I am saying. If this Demand is going to the agriculturists. Just by ordering things to pull on, then our request is that guillotine from Delhi Secretariat. it will not carry any should be delayed. good. Thank you. MR. CHAIRMAN: That is upto the MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. Members, let Government to see; you can take it up with me state the position so that everybody can them'. I also agree that Labour and Welfare cooperate. ThiS Grant is to conclude by 60' are very important grants and they should clock. Ministers for Water Resources and get more time. This is my personal observa- Agriculture are to speak,and they have their tion. time. They want to begin at 4.30 P.M. one after the other. There are 20 speakers. We Let us now proceed. Shri Kapil Dev have to conclude before 4.30 P.M. There- Shastri. tore. I will call as many speakers as possible wrthin this time and I request everybodt ·0 [ Translation] stICk to five minutes and cooperate with~~e because this is the only way in which nr- can SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI (Sonepat): give the maximum time to the maximum The Ministry of Agriculture is the most impor- "umber of Members. tant Ministry in the country and about 75 per cent of the total population is dependent on ( Interruptions) it. It had been promised in our election manifesto that the debt up to ten thousand SHRI PIYARE LAL HAND()(-' rupees will be w~ived. As per my assess- (Anantnag): Why don't you reduce it to two ment not a single penny will be waived. I and a halt minutes? (Interruptions) have made a detailed assessment of the matter. October 2, 1987 has been fixed as MR. CHAIRMAN: It is the Chair's pre- the back date. The Co-operative Banks have rogative. I am trying to do my level bast to launched a campaign tp haul up defaulter i:lccommodate as many' Members as pos- farmers and they are detained in the Banks 457 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA24,1912 (SAKA) Water RfISOUfCfIS & 458 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of AMn. of Agriculture for about 10 days. The farmers were sup- Haryana mayget water. About As. 385 crores posed to return the debt by October 2, 1987. have been sanctioned for this purpose. They had to return the debt by January 31 or February 28. otherwise they were to be AN HON. MEMBER: Which elections treated as defaulters. So far as I think not a you taking of? single penny of the farmers will be waived off. The Government will have to modify their SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI: I am refer- policy. Without imposing any condition, the ring fa the elections proposed to be held in persons who drew loans up till November. November in Punjab. 80 per cent work of the 26. 1989 should be included in the category canal has been completed. In Centre. our and their loans should be waived off. I would Government rules and in Punjab President like to give' a proposal to the Government. rule has been imposed. 20 per cent work is Chowdhary Chhoturam got a law enacted still left. It is being said that the entire work according to which it was decided that if the will be completed by December, 31,1990. Interest exceeded the prinCiple amount. the From 1984 till today, the target date has debt will be written off. All the assets of the been changed time and again. My submis- farmer including his pair of bullocks, his sion to you is that target date should be pre- tractor, land-crops. cattle, house. foodgrains boned to Oct. 31. 1990 and the canal should and fooder for six months cannot cover the be complete by that period. debt that he has to repay. The Government will have to think about all this. In order to That is all. I had to say. I am thankful to uplift the farmers in the country, their debts you for giving m five minutes to speak. will have to be waIVed off. The Government have earmarked about ten thousand crore SHRI LOKENDRA SINGH (Damoh): Mr. rupees for agriculture. I have got the com- Chairman. Sir, today, people are running plete details. About twenty families in the from rural areas to urban areas. Employ- country possess property worth Rs. 27,167 ment opportunities are not available in rural crores. They earn Rs. 10,000 crores as net areas, and there is no development. All this profit. This is the Situation prevailing in the happened because the Congress Govern- country. On one Side, there are 20 wealthy ment did notfollow a good agricultural policy. families while on the other innocent common We should give the same status to agricul- masses lead mlsprrtble life in metropolitan ture as to industry and our policy should be Cities like Delhi. Bombay, Calcutta and formulated on the basis of irrigation schemes. Madras. Our crops rot on the roads because We should have a policy for eleCtricity gen- Food Corporation of India is nothing more eration. In Punjab today 60 per cent area is than a resort of corruption. Unless the con- irrigated whereas in Madhya Pradesh. only cerned offiCIals get their palms greased 20 per cent area is irrigated. In some areas foodgrains cannot be sold. like Panna. Damoh, Satna. 3 per cent irri- gated land has been given by the Govern- I woU'td also lIke to repeat what Sardar ment. Unless the entire land is irrigated land Klrpal Singh submitted. I would conclude the country cannot make progress. In Punjab. after making submission in regard to water. the irrigated land being 60 per cent. it pro- An agreement With Pakistan was Signed in duces more wheat. If the similar situation is 1955-56 in regard to the water of Sutlej. created in Madhya Pradesh. it can produce Beas and Ravi. Punlabdoes not object tothe considerable quantity of soyabean and flowing of extra water to Pakistan but they oilseeds besides wheat. It would help in are not ready to supply it to Haryana and reducing the prices of edible oils which are Rajasthan. I have got copies of agreements. rising high currently in the country. It is my My submission to the Government is that the submission that irrigation should be equal in target period for the completion of all areas and at all places. Unless this situ- Sutlej-Yamuna link canal should be con- ation is created prices of edible oils cannot structed before the elections are held so that come down. Irrigation can take place only 69 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 W..,. ResoI.IIcM & 460 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Mn. of Agriculture . [Sh. Lokendra Singh) try farming fish farming and vegetable farm- ing wiH be done in • quit. intensive way when lift irrigation is thera. small dams are because this WOft( wit be accomplished ~ constructed. tubewells are installed. These small farmers as It requires intensive labour neither cover much area nor much money and when there would be intensive labour, nor the forest area is submerged under it. educated unemployed people and labour Only a pump is installed there and the land is class would get more opportunities to make irrigated by supplying power to it. My sub- progress in rural areas. In order to encour- mission is that the Government should take age hortiaJlture, the Government should initiative in Madhya Pradesh so that water of encourage road side plantation and lend the canals that is being wasted there can be land of destroyed forests and rivers on lease. tapped and irrigation can be done without Then 50 per cent profit should go to the dams. In Madhya Pradesh. the land of a Government and 45 per cent should be number of small dams is stiH in the posses- given to the farmers. sion of Harijans. Some dams cover about 10 acres of forest land but they are not given MR. CHAIRMAN: I think this is your last clearance by the Ministry of Water Resources point. and Ministry of Forest and Environment. The Government owns the responsibility to bear. SHRI LOKENDRA SINGH: My only 90 per cent expenditure. In view cif the failure submission to you is that attention should of these schemes, I would urge to implement paid to these things. The Congress Govern~ this at the earliest ment had distributed considerable land to grow. fruit trees, and the matter should be Rural areas face acute problem of power investigated. If fruit trees. have not been supply. If power supply in rural areas is as grown. the land should be got back and good as that in urban areas. there wil! be no given to someone else so that the aim is need to give incentives. 10 per cent produc- fulfilled. tion offood-grains will automatically increase. Maximum power should be supplied for irri- Till now cultivation of aromatic plants gation purposes. Unless agriculture is given and medicinal plants has been negligible in the status of industry, development will not our country. take place. My submission is that the good farmers who are efficient should be given 16.00 hrs. ample opportunities for cultivation and they should be exempted from Land'Ceiling Act. More capital is needed for it. Due to this I am not talking of-big farmers. They will be reason, the farmers cannot cultivate them in the first to sell their loans as soon as the small fields. The aromatic plants for menthol status of industry is given to agriculture. Tt1e and scents. which are imported, can be farmer who shows his efficiency will have to produced here also. Ther~ is a great de- be given wages as per the Labour Act and in mand of Indian herbs in the foretgn coun- this way, efficient farmers will be benefited. tries. We should promote larg.e scale cultiva- I submit to you that a small exemption should tion of herbs in our country, which will ~pen be given to such farmers as per Land Ceiling more avenues for export and import. Act. The solar energy is not being used for Today. agriculturalforestry has become agricultural purposes. Subsidies are not being essential. Population explosion in India has given to the big farmers for setting up a gas affected forests so much that not even 10 per planf. Until they are given the subsidies. the cent of the total area remain covered under animal dung cannot be fuUy utUised. As in the forests. My submission to you is that social oil refineries. the gas is not being utilised. forestry and agricultural forestry should also here also, the gas will not be utilised. With be exempted under Land Ceiling Act. Poul- those words, I conclude. 461 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA24,1912 (SAKA) Water ResoulCSS & 462 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricultutrl SHRIDHARAM PAL SHARMA (Udham- be allotted to the Govemment of Jammu- pur): Madam Chairman. more than 85 per Kashmir. so that they can start and complete cent of the population of this country de- medium and major irrigation projects. pends on agricufture. It is ironical that only smaU scale sector is provided s..midy. Not Same is true of horticulture also. The only this. they are exempted from saIes-tax production of fruits like apple. pear etc. is for first five years. Agriculture should also be near abOut 5 lakh tonnes. But the whole declared as an industry. production perishes. I would "e to demand that as a Pepsi Cola project has been ap- During the Congress regime the coun- proved in Punjab. the same may be ap- try was divideti' into 15 zones and develop- proved for Kashmir also. A survey had also mental schemes were prepared according been conducted there in this regard. There is to the climatic conditions of every zone. You lot of scope and the farmers wiD be benefited are aware that in 1988, there was acute a lot from it. The Centre should formulate a drought in the country. But due to our well- scheme in this regard. The subsidy provided planned agricultural policy, not a single per- for transport has also been stopped. As a son starved to death in the country. In 1989- result the fruit rots there. So they should be 90. the foodgrain target was of 170 million provided with transport subsidy. so that they tonnes and we achieved it.-Besides this. a can transport their produce and can ~am Land Estate Act was formulated under the their livelihood also. The land records in leadership of Sheikh Mohammad Abdullah, Kashmir are up-to-date. The numberof large under which the size of the land holdings of holdings are decreasing in the country. the big landowners was restricted to 182 Therefore. an Act should be framed which kanals. The most important thing is that the will increase the number of large holdings in Government acquired the surplus land with- the country and there can be more produc- out any compensation. In 1976, Agrarian tion. There will be more production. if the Reforms Act was framed. according to which land holdings are large and quality seeds any landowner could keep only 100 stan- and fertilizers are used_ dardised kanals of land. No one could own more than this and only the tiller were given The Gobar Gas Plant Scheme has the land. In other parts of the country, whether proved to be very effective_ It has been it is Bihar, Uttar Pradesh or Madhya Pradesh, started in the rural areas of Kashmir also. It Ceiling Acts were framed. but they were is·a very good scheme. It should be ex- misutilised_ There are thousand acres of tended to more areas, because it will benefit Kulaks in Bihar and Uttar Prad~. Every the farmers a lot. other day. there are cases of killing landless labourers, their hutments are burnt and they The present Government makes a lot of are not even paid the compensation. Those promises to the farmers. But. what is actually who work on the fields of big landowners are happening is that there is increase in prices not given the full compensation and are of tractor tyres. and diesel. This has thrown exploited. The co-operative sector should be extra burden on the farmers. But in com par... strengthened for promoting agriculture. so son to this. the support price for their pro- that quality seeds and fertilizers are made duce has only been increased to Rs. 30/- per available to the farmers and besides. the quintal. This is very less. Before the elec- majOr and medium irrigation schemes can tions and in the ejection manifesto also. it also be promoted. I have no hesitation in was promised that the loans u;>to As. 10,000 saying that there is only 20 per cent irrigated of the farmers will be waived. The Reserve land in Jammu-Kashmir and the rest 80 per Bank had asked for Rs_ 14,000 erare to meet cent depends upon the monsoons. Several this expense. But Shri Madhu Dandavate times, we had'to ask the centre forfoodgralns. has Alade an allocatIOn of Rs_ 2800 crare There is very little production in Kandi and only. Now. it is being said that 50 percent of hill areas. Under this plan. more funds should the amount waived, will be met by the State 463 Demands for Grants MAY 14.1990 Wat.r Resoun::es & 464 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture [Sh. Oharam Pal Sharma) Himalayas because of which very often they are changing their course. They bring in mud Governments and the rest 50 per cent will be with them and as a result block their own provided by the Centre. Earlier. it was not route because of which they have to change like this. First. the Government misled them their course. Therefore. this policy should be by making false promises and won their given up. votes. Now by increasing the prices of tyre and diesel. they have increased the cost of In 1981 for the construction of multi productIOn also. purpose high dam at Bada Kshetra over river Kosi the Government of India had sent a Earlier, the prices of produce used to be report to HMG Nepal. But that is still pending fixed even before the sowing of the crop, but there. Now, we have a viable climate. I wish thiS time, the pnces were fixed after the the Government of India must pursue it with crops were harvested and were transported the Government of Nepal. It is in the interest to the markets. This Government is always of both the countries because the people of harping upon the measures that have been Nepal are also Gufferlng taken for the weHare of farmers but It IS not so In actual practice Secondly, Madam, I would like to say that ever since the new Government has "Guftar ke gazi buyn to gaye, lekln come In power, during the Question Hour we k,rdar ke gazl bun na sake P do not get specific answers They are all evasive answers. I would request the Minis- Whether It IS the Issue of fiXing prrces for ter of Water Resources to streamline hiS their produce, or waiving of loans. nothing Ministry from it so that the officers do some has been done In actual practice home work. I have records with me. I cannot supply the Minister, the records. The an- [EnglIsh] swers are being evaded. Some times, even known facts are being denied there. SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA (Madhubanl): would like to emphaSise only for a few I want to emphasise something regard- minutes the policy being followed With re- Ing agriculture. Self-cultlvatlng tenancy for gard to Floods. drought and power our country has become the need of the generatIon-I mean hydel power. Ever since hour. Absentee ownership IS growing. Par- Independence. a very wrong polrey has been tIcularly, the owners, who are far away from followed with regard to flood control, particu- the places where their lands are there, there larly In North Bihar The entire polrcy has the lands are not being cultivated faIled Embankments on both sides of the (lver have caused growlngly more and more So, the basic with regard to land should drought and flood Whenever there IS heavy be Studied andthe State Governments should rain, the embankment cannot contain the be geared up to implement those polrcies, entire water as a result water spread out on I.e. r~arding amendment of the eXisting both sides of the embankment and every- laws and enforcement machillery, etc. The thing IS submerged If there IS less water, Revenue Ministers of the whole country sat rivers take water to sea as a result no water in this regard in 1985, 1986 and also In 1987. IS left for Irrrgation purposes, So, I would say I think. they will go a long way In streamling that thiS polrcy should be given up The only the land reforms advanlagelhal one can drawfrom thiS policy IS that some politicians or some contractors Now, I would like particularly to empha- and some officers and engineers can lootthe sise on the question of power generation. people at the cost of the national exchequer. There have been long d_lays in the con- Kamla. KOSI, 6a9matl and Mahananda are struction 01 Tehn Garhwal \Narmada Sagar) fluctuating rivers They bnng Sl't from the ProJect, Pancheshwar Dam and Kamal Dam 465 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 466 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricuhure of Uttar Pradesh, which was finalised after a ture and agriculturists. They make a very comprise with the Government of Nepal. I long list of promises and after the election is believe, due to our fault, the Karnali and over, once the persons have occupied the Panchehwar Projects had been delayed. It is chair, they forget all their commitments and because of the official resIstance and ne- also all their promises. It is because of the glect and also I thInk because of indifference fact that this community is not organised. treatment to Nepal that we and also Nepal This is a disorganised community. This are suffering. So, such things have got to be community does not know how to fight for its expedited. In Bihar. Koel Project had been rights. This community does not have the delayed for long to the detrament of the tribal strength to ask its friends to put down their people of Chotta Nagpur and because of plough as the trade union worker puts down that, they have been suffering. his tool orthe Army Jawan puts down his gun orthe policeman puts down his rifle because So, for the present. the Government they cannot simply afford to put down their should gear up ItS machInery and also the plough. For the last forty years, this Govern- policy. ment have been taking advantage of this SItuatIon and have been the explOIters of this community. Regarding rase In prices of agricultural goods, I would like to say thiS. Only one side of the agraculture prIce adds to anflatlon. Due to shortage of time, I would like to More help should be prOVIded to the peas- touch only the land ceilings. One thing I ants by way of cheaper electriCIty, cheaper would liketotell regarding land ceiling before water, cheaper fertIlizers etc. That WIll be I conclude. You are talking about land ceil- more helpful than Increase or rise In prices. Ings. You have to achieve a lot of things. In OtherWIse. It Will create a chain reaction Punjab, you have given 18 standard acres and in Orissa you are giving only 10 standard So. If we wa'l! to SUbSIdIse everything, acres. What is the result? Do you compare every Input for agraculture. then we have to the land of Punjab with the land of Orissa? contain Inflation also. The pity, I think, IS that we have been talking of the Left. but have always kept ourselves With these few words I conclude. onthe Right, forthe last40years. That iswhy the result is thatthe assets of the 20 or 27 big MR CHAIRMAN Now. I WIll call three Houses have increased from Rs. 2,000 crores Members more S'Shra Bal Gopal Mlshra, to Rs. 27,000 crores. P L Handoo and Chhedl Paswan. But all of you have to stick to fIve minutes/each only. Uadam, regarding ceiling people are very much sincere. Why don't you bring in a SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA (Bolanglt): ceiling on incomes? Why don't you bring in a Madam Chairperson. thIS subject concerns, ceIling on property? Do you think that the 75 per cent people of the country. But unfor- agnculturists and the farming community tunately the time g:ven to thIS subject have commrtted a crime by taking to agricul- shows-thiS GovHnment and also the prevI- tue as their profession? " in a sangle profes- ous Government for the last forty years they sIOn somebody can earn any amount-and are concerned about thiS communaty. the sky IS the limit for his income-what is the harm ii somebody makes some money out of agriculture? Agraculturlsts are a forgotten community In thiS country. They are being remembered only once In fIve years. Only during elec- AN HON. MEMBER: What is your defi- tIons. people talk of agraculture and agricul.- nition of a farmer? 467 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water Resources & 468 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. 01 Agricu/tu1Tl SHRIBAlGOPAlMISHRA: The farmer Agriculture in respect of the kidnapping of is a person who cultivates himsel. (lnte~ the leamed professor of the Agricuhure lions) University, Prof. Ganjoo-who was kidnapped on Saturday last. and found dead three days You are talking of pensions. You are after. I would not have even expressed this giving pension to everybody. In 1975. Mrs regret, but for one fact, viz. that his wife, Indira Gandhi started a namalc hataam jag'; along with Prof. GIh'joo. was kidn8pped. called pension for MlAs and MPs. because Today is the tenth day of that lady being those sections were the vocal sections of the kidnapped, and nobody in the Agricuhure society. Though they fight· against injustice Ministry is even conducting a search for her. in the society. iust to gag them. Mrs Indira Gandhi started this scheme. We had ex- I am coming today from Srinagar. I was peded that the Janata Government would yesterday in the Sopore town from where the stop it. But unfortunately they did do it. But a husband and wife were kidnapped. The farmer. a landless labourer who toils in the husband was found three days after kidnap- land does not get any pension whatsoever. ping. The wife is still to be found; and how What is the sort of social justice that you are sad it is to reflect and say that the State giving? What has the Central Government Government does not even have a clue. been doing for the last 40 years? Some feeling is there. that she has been killed and thrown into the river, and the body Today, I am afraid this Government is might have flowed down to Pakistan. The also going to bring in a Bill to give pension to way Shri Upendra as Minister of Information MPs-even to a person who will be an MP and Broadcasting behaved when Mr. lassa even for one day. But I am asking you one Koul died-l wish that would be an example question: An agricultural labourer, who is a for the Ministry of Agriculture as well. landless labourer. when he becomes old. how much pension does he get? At least they should have gone to Jammu, to look up the two children lett by this There was a talk about subsidies also. couple. One was the professor who had We are giving Rs. 6,000 crores as subsdy returned recently after getting the highest every year. How long can we afford to give degree from from Russia, and was setting up this? a plant which he had procured from Russia; and within four days of having put it up he Ithink I have consumed my time. Ido not was killed. His wife was a head-mistress with want to go one. Thank you very much. the highest degree in Education; and today is the eleventh day of her disappearance. SHRI PIYARE lAl HANDOO Nobody knows what has happened to her. (Anantnag): ldonotwanttowastetime. The first observation that I want to make is that Now the second point. aboutagriculture Kashmir is in the news these days because itself. I would like the Agriculture Minister to of terrorism or subversion. I am making an take notice, and if he has time, if he goes to effort to make a submission to Indicate that Kashmir, he will understand the problem of Kashmir is much more than terrorism and irrigation in Kashmir. For 40% of the land subversion. And in that regard, I want tb there. there is assured irrigation; for 600/0 draw the attention of the Minister of Agricul- there is no assured irrigation. Eight canal ture and the Minister of Water Resources to projects are in hand there. All the eight are the fact that in Kashmir. the problem of starving. for want of funds. agriculture and water resources needs spe- cial mention. I would name eight projects of my con- stituency, Anantnag, where these things are In that regard. I must say with regret the happening these days. n the Minister of total silence maintained by the Ministry of Irrigation has got time, he should go there 469 D9mands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water ResoUfC9S & 470 (Gsn.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture and see the things over there for himself. We pattern in the rest of the country due to the will come to know how things have been geographical seasons. We face some diffi- allowed to go in respect of irrigation-This is culty particularly in maize cultivatiOn. The directly connected with Kashmir and the diffICUlty is with regard to seeds cultivation. floods protection scheme; how things have Kindly help our State Government to gain developed there. He can go over there after self-sufficiency in seeds cultivation and seeds two weeks or three weeks and see how they preservation. are languishing. He will find that these are in hand for the last more than seven years and There is a need for developing man- not yet completed. They ate as follows: land relationship in the country. I insisted on it during the debate on the President's AIJ- 1. Rajanbi dress. I insist on it today again. If you really want Ind!an agriculture to prosper, to be- 2. Rajal: come more scientific, to become more egali- tarian, to bring about social justice, you have 3. Dudar: to do.a re-thinking about the development of total man-land relationship in the country. If 4. Kastigarh: it changes, then you have to take care of land revenue records prepared since Mughals's 5. Lower Jhelum: time and see the conditions today. H you go through the latest resolution passed in the 6. Kuel: Conference of the Revenue Ministers 1 112 years ago and implement 20 per cent of the 7. Tral: and ~esolution, if not 100 per cent, and see that we preserve these records in ali the States 8. Rajpura and bring them upto date, it will help us a lot: It will help us if we use a valuable high If you have a look at these eght irrIga- technology guides or the present technology tion canals, you will find that they are nearing development so tt)at we can bring upto date completion but not yet operational. Then you our revenue records correctly and preserve· try to out a questIOn to yourself as well as to them. the authorities of the State Government regarding them. What is it that is happening [ Translation] to them? SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN (Sasaram): I would again remind you that you were Madam Chairman, I will not take much time. kind enough at a particular stage of our I rise to support the Demands for Grants of history to grant to one district in the State out the Ministry of Irrigation and Agriculture. I of 14 districts the status of a drought prone would like to draw the attention of the Gov- area. and started digging a canal known as ernment towards Bihar. The Government "Shiva Canal": kindly note the name was has always adopted a callous attitude to- "Shiva Canar. You spent R~. 2.50 crares on wards Bihar. This has created regional im- It. In spite of this, for the last 10 years. it does balance and there is constant increase in the l"Iot have a drop of water floWing thraugn this number of poor and unemployed. In 1950, canal. Kindly go there and have a look at it. Bihar occupied fourth position in the country It was constructed in a drought prone area of in so far as per capita income was con- Dora District. Then you ask the State Gov- cerned. In 1970, it was at the 11th place, in ernment what is gOing to happen to our 1980, it was at the 16th place and by the time Irrigation system. 7th Five Year Plan was implemented, it was in the 18th place. The target of the Central About agriculture. there is a difference Government is to reduce the number of between our sowing pattern and the sowing people living below the poverty line upto 10 471 Demands for Grants MAY 14.1990 Water Resources & 472 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of AgricultulTI [Sh. Chhedi Paswan] acute problem of water logging in 1063 square kilometer area in Patna. Nalanda and per cent by 1995. Before the implementation Mongher distrids of Bihar. of the 6th plan in Bihar, the number of such people was 57.50 per cent and there was no MR. CHAIRMAN: Whatever you want cr.ange till the beginning of Seventh Plan. to say. please give it in writing. Madam Chairman, by 1990. the number SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN: I am con- of unemployeds In Bihar reached to 20 lakhs. cluding. Through you. I would like to submit I would like to request the Government, to the Government that In my constituency. through you, that atlentlOn should be paid on the foundation stone for Durgavati ReservOir the planned development of Bihar and while Project was laid In 1986 and Its estimated formulating the Eghth FIVe-Year Plan. radI- expenditure was Rs 25 to Rs. 30 crore. But. cal changes should be made In the callous Rs. 67 crores has already been spent on it till pohcles towards BIhar. so that we can get now and the reservOIr is yet not complete our due. FollOWing protects should be Imme- So 'would like to request the Government diately sanctIoned for the development of that rehabilrtatlon schemes should be started Bihar and adequate ..funds should be allo- for these displayed people and Durgavatl cated In the 8th F,ve Year Plan In th,s regard ReservOir Project. on which lot of funds have Total cultIvable land In B,har IS 117 lakh been spent, should be ImmedIately com- hectares The maJor. medIum and minor pleted and the Centre should Intervene In the Irrtgatlon projects have a potentIal of Irrrgat- matter Ing 124 lakh hectares of land 65 lakh hec- tare of land can be Irrigated through majOr MR CHAIRMAN ShnJagannath SIngh, and med,um IrrigatIon projects and 58 lakh please conclude In two minutes Shnmatl hectare of land can be Irrrgated through B,mal Kaur. you also conclude In two min- mmor Irrigation projects But the pIcture at utes present IS very d,smal So far we have been able to tap less than 40 per cent of Irrrgatlon SHRI JAGANNATH SINGH (Sldhl) potentIal In BIhar. the per cent age IS even Madhya Pradesh IS one of the most agrICul- less than that The poSitIon In regard to new turally backward state of the country Al- Irngatron projects IS even more dIsappOint- though rt abounds In natural resources, there Ing Old Irrigation schemes have lost their IS a WIde network of rivers and canals In the utllrty In the absence of proper mamtalnence State yet much progress has not been made and supervIsion For example Sane River In the fIeld of agriculture The rivers have not Project IS qurte old and Irrigates 23 lakh beef! harnessed properly Unless Irrigation acres of land In 6 dIstricts One crore people faCIlities are extended, It IS not poSSIble to are dependent on It for their livelihood ThiS make much progress In th,s field. Therefore well planned IrrigatIon project IS loOSing rts area under IrngatlOn should be augmented utlhty In the absence of proper malntalnence More IrrigatIOn faCIlities can be provided by In 1983. we had requested the World Bank to Sinking more tubewells. through 11ft Irrigation give aid for the ModernisatIon of thiS project schemes. and by constructing small dams but because o~ paucrty of funes. thiS prolect and embankments etc May minor Irrlgatton IS stIli pending I would like to request the projects of Madhya Pradesh. covering two Central Governmer't to take necessary steps and a haH to three hectares tract of forest for arranging the funds The prolect of Kakkan land. prone to submerge.nce. are pending Dam IS also lYing pending In our State ThiS with the Central Government for approval dam can work as a reservoir for the water of The Government has already spent more River Sane and 430 MW5 of electrlcrty can than haH of the amount on these proJects. but also be generated through It So I would the work IS still pending due to the non- request that thIS project should be Included availability of funds from the Central Govern- In the Etghth F,ve Year Plan There IS an ment. Under the circumstance. it IS essential 473 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Wafer Resources & 474 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture to make some amendments in the Forest that rt would waive loans of the farmers upto Conservation Act, so as to facilitate the easy ten thousand rupees, but it is a matter of approval of the minor projects. The river great regret that not even a single paisa loan Sone passes through my constituency Sidhi. of any farmer has been waived so far. Three Ban Sagar project was taken up some time meetings of the Bhartiya Kisan Union have back but it could not be completed due to been held; a joint meeting of the Bharatiya paucity of funds. The Government should Kisan Union and Ex-Servicemen also took allocate adequate funds, so that this project place In Delhi, on 31 December. The Hon'ble could be completed and IrrigatIOn faclhtles Prime Minister attended that meeting and he extended. Similarly, the prevIous Govern- gave an assurance that the loans of the ment had formulated an irrigation scheme farmers would be waived Later in an another whereby a dam was to be bUilt at Deosil in meeting held on 28 January the Prime Min- Lor Durga in Uttar Pradesh, but of about 35 Ister rerterated the assurance. In the month or 36 villages of that area and 150 villages of of January, the Bhartlya Klsan Union also the Sldhl district were submerged, had thiS organised a rally In ChandlQarh and both the project been undertaken BUilding of big Prime MInister and the Deputy Prime MiniS- dams give nse to many problems such as ter attended that rally At that rally also, an submergence of vast areas etc Therefore assurance was given to the effect that loans the Government should think In terms of to the extent of Rupees 10,000 would be constructing small dams Instead of big ones waived Farmers, whether they be big or for agricultural purposes small should benefit from thiS loan waiver scheme. The displaced Jhuggl-Jhoprl dwell- Madam Chairperson, I would like to ers of Uttar Pradesh have been prOVided submrt a few words about agnculturalloans. wrth one or two room dwelling unrts. They are Loans of farmers upto Rs 10,000 should be very poor people overburdened wrth debts, waived. but loans exceeding thiS amount hence their loans should also be waived should be recovered from all the farmers along with that of the farmer As far as the Irrespective of the fact whether they are distribution of water IS concerned, according small, medium or big About 1.25 crore people to the Rlpenan Law, the states, through of Madhya Pradesh live In areas covered by which nvers or seas flow have a right over forests and these areas are predominantly them. Those states, which are not touched inhabited by adlvasls These adlvasls have by rivers or seas, do not have any right over been hVlng there for the last 30-40 years and them OUTIng the recent spate of floods In these forest lands are occupied by the Adl- Punjab, the State suffered immense loss. It vaSIS, but they do not have any ownership had to suffer the loss of crops, cattle wealth rights over that land because of the Forest and precIous human life, but when it comes Conservation Act Unless the deed of land IS to denvlng the benefits of that water, RaJast- given to them. their economic condition han and Haryana are the benefiCiaries. When cannot be ameliorated Therefore. I urge the MorafJl Desai's Government was In power, Government to give It a serious thought and Shrl Desai said that thiS water dispute would speed up the process of developing these be decided by the Supreme Court, In accor- forest tracts so that the rough and rugged dance With the Rlpenan Law. Later on, In land could be Irrigated by constructing small 1980, when the Indira Gandhi Government dams and the ad,vas,s benefited from It assumed office. the case was Withdrawn Therefore. I once again urge the Govern- from the Supreme Court, because she :mew ment to give a seTious thought to It Due to It well that the deCISion of the Supreme Court the paucity of time. I now conclude Will go In favour of Punjab and it would go against the Interests of Haryana. Due to thiS ·SHRIMATI BIMAL KAUR KHALSA reason, the case was withdrawn from the (Ropar): The Government had earher said Supreme Court. Now, I urge upon the Gov- *Translation of the speech Originally dehvered in PunJabl. 475 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water RtISOUrctIS & 476 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricuhure [Shrimati Simal Kaur Khalsa] vide opportunity to the maximum number of Members to express their opinion. I have emment to get this water dispute settled, noted down all the suggestions put before through the Supreme Court in accordance the House. Some complaints were made with the Ripenan Law against my department, I have noted them down also. In view of these suggestions and MR. CHAIRMAN: BlmalJI, now con- grievances, I will try to explain the position in clude within one mlnute ..... my reply. Madam, while looking at the previ- ous figures, I feel that the irrigation sector ·SHRIMATI BIMAL KAUA KHALSA: As has not been given due importance. We regards the SYL (SutleJ), Yamuna link Ca- consider agriculture as our life line because nal) I would like to say that Haryana has no about 80 per cent of our population earns its nght overthe waters of the SY~ canal. There- livelihood through agriculture either directly fore, the people of Punjab Including me'do or indirectly. If agrICulture is our lifeline, then not want Haryana to get even a drop of water water resource IS the backbone of agncul- from the SYL canal As perthe Price Index of ture. The development of agrICulture is im- 1987. there has been a sharp Increase In the possible without Ifngatlon facilities We have prtces of the articles of dally use, but the to bear thiS Simple fact In mind and have to Prices of cereals have falleen Therefore, a work accordingly. As far as IrrigatIOn facili- balance between the price Index and the ties are concerned, It has been neglected Prices of cereals should be maIntained right from the first FIVe Year Plan In which 18.7% of the total budget was prOVided for It MR. CHAIRMAN. BlmalJl, please. your From second FIve Year Plan the declining time IS over. Now the MInister Will reply trend began and It shded down to 11 .2% In the Second Plan and 10.64% In the Third ·SHRIMATI SIMAL KAUR KHALSA As Plan In the Fourth Plan, the situatIOn Im- far as ex-servicemen are concerned. I urge proved a btt and 11 1% was provided but In that polICY of 'one rank. one pensIOn' should the Fifth Plan, It was reduced to 8 1 %. In the be followed, lirespecllve of the year of their Sixth Plan, It was raised shghtly and 11 .3% retIrement was allotted for It And In the Seventh Five Year Plan, It has been prOVided with 8.9% of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the total budget MINISTRYOFWATER RESOURCES (SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA) Madam, I am happy As a result, the employment generation to note that about 55-56 Members took part .n ru~al sector was not as much as It should In the debate on the Demands for Grants of have been and exodus of the people from the MInistry of Water Resources and the Villages tothe CItIes began The people started MInistry of Agriculture Many suggestions hVlng In Jhuggls were also put before the House partICularly regarding water resources Though many [English] Members did not make any reference to the IrrigatIOn sector or the Water resources People were wandering In search of food. sector. but all told. It seems that we had the longest diSCUSSIOns on these subjects ThiS [ Translation] diSCUSSIOn went on for fifteen hours Origi- nally, four hours were fixed for diSCUSSion on Unless the irrigatIOn sector IS given an Impe- Demands for Grants for MIniStry, but later on tus, there can be no propenty in the country. the diSCUSSIon on the Demands for Grants of The states like Haryana and Punjab have the Ministry of AgrICulture was also clubbed made the country self-sufficient infoodgralns and time was extended wrth a VieW to pro- because maximum irrigated area of the ·TranslatlOn of the speech Originally delivered in PunJabi. 477 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 478 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture country lies in these two states. [English] 16.41 hr•. Percentage wise we will see that due weight- age is given to agriculture. [SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE in the Chaiij [ Translation] Had adequate attention been paid in the first However, the final document of the 8th Plan four five year plans, we would not have faced is not yet ready and hence I shall not go into the shortfall of i 2 lakh tonnes of edible oil statistics. beside shortage of oilseeds. sugar and pulses and the consequent price rise. We face [English] these problems due to shortfall in agricul- tural production. Though we have enough And you will see that irrigation sector is given foodgrains. we face scarcity of other essen- due weightage. tial commodities. If irrigation facilities were provided by utilising the river-water which [ Translation] waste fully flows into the seas. we would have been in a much better position and Mr. Chairman, Sir. the earlier impression there would not have been any shortage of about India was that the country has enough agricultural commodities. It seems that the water. As a result of it, the proper planning people who were associated with this work and management of water resources was did not hail from villages and had no first not attempted. Today 70% of our population hand knowledge of agriculture and irrigation. lives in rural areas. They were all intellectuals who planned for the villages while sitting in cities. They could [English] not understand our rural economy and no one paid attention to it. Although irrigation I am coming from an area which is always sector needed full weightage yet it was under drought. neglected. The result is that we have been able to provide irrigation facilities to just 31 % [ Translation] of the total area in all these 42 year. We must make up for thiS shortage ot irrigation facili- It lacks even drinking water. ties. For this we will have to give greater emphasis on irflgation projects so as to bring [English] more·areas under irrigation. A woman with an empty pot on her head wandering for water for miles and miles. Mr. Chairman. Sir, by the end of the 7th plan, a total of As. 43155 crores have been [ Translation] spent under plan and non-plan expenditure. We hope that in the Eighth Pian ...... Why and how did it happen? Who is respon- sible for it? We have to think over it. It is so (English] because no atter.tion was paid to it. There are many countries in the world where the I will try to justify it. I have proposed accord- availability of water per capita is much higher ingly. than in India, e.g. US: 6200 cubic metre per head, Japan: 6500 and Russia: 17,536cubic [ Translation] metre per head. Therefore the funds provided for it In the 8th [English] Plan are many times more than those pro- vided in the 7th Plan. While in India it is just 3100 including floor 479 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water Resourr»S & 480 (Gen.), 1990-91 Mm of Min. of Agriculture [Sh Manubhal Kotadla] name of Industnal development. water of Ganga and Brahmaputra whICh IS [ TranslatIOn] Impossible to harness Presently many industries are Sick and the [ Translation] money Invested has been rendered useless Who bothers to realise such loans The This reveals that there IS nothing like abun- loans were given by banks and the money dance of water It should have been utilised went waste as the unit became sICk. Whose well, but It was not done Now that we are at money IS It? It IS the money of the banks and, the helm of affairs therefore, of the Government Therefore, the loans of farmers should be waived [English] [English] We Will see that It IS done And we are committed for that [ TranslatIon] [ Translation] We are unable to face Just one drought even after 42 years What does thiS Indicate? Let However the modalities can be explained by us look at the plight of those who are called concerned Minister only ThiS loan waiving big farmers When drought hits a Village, has to be done as a compensation to the sisters and daughters of even those farmers farmers for non-availability of water for Irri- who own 20-25 hectares of land have to go gation to the site of relief work and tOil there They cannot face even one drought and have to AN HON MEMBER Would you waive sell even their cows and buffaloes There IS the loans of cooperative sector too? a proposal to waive the loans of farmers I would like to ask as to what IS the root cause SHRI M~.NUBHAI KOTADIA Only the of their Indebtedness concerned minister can tell about that I have received" many complaints about drinking [English] water It was because of the faulty policy [English) [ Translation] I am also worned They were given nerther Insurance faCIlity [ Translation] nor water for their crops and hence they did not get redsonable prices for their crops As far as the responsibility to provide drink- Whenever there was a good crop, he wes Ing water IS concerned forced for distress sale and when there was a drought. his fertilizer as well as the seed [English] went waste As a result, the loan amount went on Increasing Since the Government's PartICularly so far as rural sector IS con- policy was faulty, therefore, the deCISIOn to cerned, the Minister looking after the rural waive the ban IS Justified I would like to say development Will reply that there are a number of Industries whose loans have turned Into bad debts [ Translation] [English] I also realise that It IS very difficult to prOVIde drinking water as there IS very little water left Crores of rupees have been Invested In the 20 years earlier the level of under ground 481 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 482 (Gtm.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of AgriaJ/ture water was 50-60 feet below the surface, now [English] a days one does not strike water even after sinking bore wells as deep as 300-400 feet. It is in the form of grant. It cannot be tied The e~isting bore wells do not have recharg- with any sector or any scheme or project. ing facilities and the small ponds have not been well constructed. [ Translation] [English] SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN (Murshidabad): What about the rivers ad- On paper, it is shown that potential is created joining border areas? Would it fall under the but in fact there is no potential. State Subject or some other subject? [ Translation] [English] I admit that mistakes have been committed SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: I will come in the past which have resulted in the scar- to that point later. city of drinking water. I am gratefulto Rajmata for hervaluable suggestions. I was impressed [ Translation] by her speech about rural areas. Other Members also have rendered their valuable It may well be advised that it should be suggestions but those given by Rajmata are included in central sector. But it would surely particularly very good. involve the distribution of power. It is true that irrigation is a state subject. [English] The Eighth Schedule of the Constitution mentions clearly that it is a State subject and We are not for Central legislation. We are for the Centre's role is ... decentralisation of power. [English] [ Trans/ation] ·'to provide the gUIdance for external assIs- It would involve the States as well. There are tance and monitoring .... - MLAs in our State Assemblies, they should be requested to raise this issue in Assem- PROF. N.G. RANGA: ArbitratIon and blies. The Centre would willingly do all that is conciliation also. considered needful. I will disuses the issue with Chief Ministers also. [ Translation] [English] SHRI MANUBHAI KOT ADIA: The total allocation provided in the Seventh Plan was During my visit to the States, I will have Rs. 17,000 crores and in addition to that a discussion with the concerned chief minis- provision of Central assistance of Rs. 884 ters, particularly the Chief Minister of West crores was also there. Of this, 70 per cent Bengal and Assam. was to be passed on to the States. Its objec- tive was to provide funds for Command Area [ Trans/ation] Development, Minor Irrigation, SYL Canal and Rajasthan Canal. The Central sector AN HON. MEMBER: Rajasthan should has not got enough money to allot the de- also be included in it (Interruptions) sired amount to the States. Many han. Members have requested to enhance the SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: I would financial assistance to the States as much as like to do it for all. Wherever the big rivers are possible. The amount which is given to States. there would talk to the concerned Chief 483 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water Resourr:es & 484 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculturtl [Sh. Manubhal Kotadia] [English] Ministers (/nte"uptlOns) After Deepavali they are facing a drought situation. Bihar alone has 26% of the total flood prone area. The State IS hit by floods every ( Translation] year ans massive devastatIOn is caused. I expect that a solution to this problem will SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA (Madhubani): certainly be found and I shall make my best I want to clarify the matter. We hail from a efforts to find a solution. flood affected area and thus suffer a lot. This area is affected by floods for three months (Eng/ish] and by droughtforthe rest of the nine months and thereby we are adversely affected by Now In recent days both the calamrtles [ Translation] SHRI SAYEEO MASUOAL HOSSAIN (Murshtdabad): In thiS connectIOn I have to Our relations with Nepal are Improving fast say that Bihar IS a flood hit State and later on and rt is hoped that there will improve further. the flood water flows to Bengal also Thus I can say that it may be done because Nepal IS also in need of it. H a big dam is SHRI MANUBHAI KOTAOIA: There IS constructed in the territory of Nepal. 35 only one solution to thiS problem IS that the Meghawattsof powe r can be generated which talks we had with Nepalln thiS regard should .s approximately 35 percent of the total re- vleld some frUitful solution qUirement of India and once this power is generated it will help that country to prosper [Engllshl further and we Will get water. It will also help In flood control and Will prOVide water for Unless we construct big dams near Nepal Irrlgatlonal purpose to Bihar, U.P. and will there IS no solution fulfill the demands put forth by Rajasthan but how can this be done and when can it be [ Translation] done That IS the only solution As such, after [Eng"~h) having assumed the charge of thiS MIOIstry I have written a lener In thiS regard on the 16th It IS very d.fflcult for me to say anything atthls of March but my proOlem IS. stage Rajasthan has made this demand. [English] SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: An agree- ment has been reached twelve years ago I have to deal through the Ministry of Exter- wrth Nepal in Panchreshwar and Girava. nal Affairs The MInistry of External Affairs has already taken thiS up SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): You should take steps to provide water to Rajast- [ Translation] han. We are not getting water, we are in great distress. I will talk to the Ministry of External Affairs also and Will request them to find a solutIOn SHRI MA~UBHAI KOTADIA: All right. to thiS problem because river Gang., IS In spate every year and the fivers floWing from SHRI CHHAVIRAM ARGAL (Morena): B.har are causing havoc. Mr. Jha has said The land of Madhya Pradesh will tum rugged that devastating floods occur but rt IS not so. and barren owing to scarcity of water. As 485 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 486 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture such what plan are you making in this direc- coming to it. I will cover everything. As re- tion? . gards finance and resources in the matter of creating irrigation potential, foreign loans [Eng/ish] and assistance are also received. SHRI MANUBHAI KOTAOIA: The main [Eng/ish) constraints in irrigation or providing much of the irrigation facilities is lack of funds. At present mainly we are getting from World Bank and we are getting very good coopera- [ Trans/ation] tion from the World Bank. There is no fund. I have given a suggestion. [ Trans/ation] [English] Many Hon. Members have declared water as a national property and have demanded for setting up of a corporation which can its nationalisation. This is true and it has finance these nationally important projects. been mentioned in the National Water Policy but the important thing is whether the States [ Translation] will agree to it. Nobody is going to give up his claim. I am coming to the POint of diSCUSSion. A proposal is under consideration to set up a [English] corporation so that funds can be made avail- able through it to the projects of national Since when I have taken charge of the Min- importance whether it is Ganga or Narmada istry of Water Resources. formally and infor- or Brahmaputra or Tista and mally I have started dialogues with the con- cerned [Eng/ish] State Governments tor resolving inter-State It IS under the active consideration of the disputes like Cauvery water dispute. Includ- Government. ing Tamil Nadu. Karnataka. Kerala. Gujarat and Rajasthan nobody is prepared to sacri- [ Trans/ation] fice anything. Now the Supreme Court has ordered to set up a tribunal. So. I will not say The agricultural sector can get funds through anything about that because it will be preju- NABARO even today. diclai. [English] [ Translation] lOBI is for financing industrial sector. There I will not say anything regarding the is no financial institution which can finance Cauvery issue. thiS irrigation sector. I have propOsed it. and I am intending to set up this if it IS agreed. [English] ( Inte"uptions) So far as the Water Grid is concerned. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Why there are two proposals. one made by Mr. K. did you not refer the Cauvery Issue to the L. Rao and another by Capt. Dastur for inter- Tribunal. State hnking of major rivers like Ganga and Cauvery and transferring water for irrigation [ Translation] and other purposes. These were considered by the Government and found technically SHRI MANUBHAI KOTAOIA: I am unsound. 487 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water Resources & 488 (Gen.), 1990-91 Mm. of Min. of Agricuhure [Sh. Manubhal Kotadia] [ Translation) ( TranslatIOn] As far as the development of Himalayan rivers is concerned, it IS very difficult to make Nobody IS gOIng to gIve up his share of any progress in thIS directIOn unless we water. Everyone knows the Important of come to an agreement or understanding water. As regards natlOnahsatlon of water, it with Nepal or Bangladesh. IS to be seen as to whether the State Govern- ments are agreeable to It. Thereafter, I shall [English] Inlttate a dIalogue on th,s tOPIC. The NatIonal Water Development [English] Agency was set up to gIVe concrete shape to the peninsular river development of the na- For these two proposals. the MInistry of tIonal perspective for water resources devel- Water Resources has formulated a natIOnal opment perspective for water resources develop- ment which comprises of two components. ( Trans/atlon} namely HImalayan river development and peninsular river devetopment SHRI DAU DA VAL JOSHI I would hke to ask the Han. M,nister as to whether he has [ TranslatIOn] a time bound programme or some actIOn plan In th,s regard A suggestIOn has been given that the water of the Ganga should be d,verted to thiS SHRI MANUBHAJ KOTADIA' I am regIon In order to Implement thIS. the water comIng to that I shall not leave anything I IS to be lifted to a hel9ht of 16 00 mts and for shall come to actIOn plan also Only those carrying out thIS work 7000 Megawatt of people who have nothIng to do with the power Will be required For thiS funds Will be Agricultural Department oppose the con- requIred and It WIll be diffICult to arrange for structIOn of bl9 dams Some people talk of It I have studIed th,s Issue to some extent rehabIlitatIOn There are some who talk about Thus we are not gOing to gIve It up the Issue of caste benefit ratIO Those people are not aware of the situatIOn In rural sector [English] [EngltshJ Peninsular river development comprises four parts - They do not know how the farmer IS dependIng on the ralnted agnculture. (I) Inter-hnklng of Mahanadhl. 20- davan. Knshna Pennar clnd [ Translation] Cauvery. They are not aware of It IrrigatIOn facIli- (II) Inter-hnklng of west-flOWIng riV- ties WIll be prOVided In 18 lakh 67 thousand ers north of Bombay and South hectares of land through Narmada Sagar, of TaptI Sardar Sarovar 1450 Mega Watt of power WIll be generated thereby. Some forest land (III) Inter-hnklng at Ken WIth Cha'-I- WIll be acqUIred, but It has been decided to bal, and double the forest land there In place of unplanned and ralnfed forests, there WIll be (IV) d,verSIon of the water of Sane planned forests and dunng the next 6 years and the west-flOWing rivers of 18 lakh hectares of land will be brought Kerala to the east under greenery. It will Improve the envlron- 489 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 490 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture ment and farmers will get water. At present PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL: You only firewood is available in jungles. but in said the people who were displaced have future various types of fruit trees like mango. been re-settled there. Did the hon. Minister banana, etc. will be grown there. personally visit the oustees to find out whether they were satisfied there? Did he visit the site As regards rehabilitation. I agree with in Rajasthan' where the people displaced you that rehabilitation should be in proper from Pong Dam area in Himachal Pradesh manner. have been rehabilitated?(lnterruptions) [English] SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: The schemes which were launched at that time Those who are sacrificing for the proj- should be implemented. I agree to that (Inter- ects should not be troubled. They should be ruptions) given importance in respect of their rehabili- tation. [English] [ Translation] let me finish my reply. I am talking about minor irrigation. That will be looked People living in the submerged areas into. I will instruct my officers to visit and ask will be rehabilitated. Our aim is to improve the concerned State Governments. The their living conditions. This scheme will be Scheme must be implemented. implemented. No compromise can be make in this respect. Whether it IS in Gujarat or in [ Tra'1slationj any other place for that matter. (Interrup- tions) As far as the ground water resources are concerned, I have already said that it is As regards allotment of land to farmers, the responsibility of the States, However, the it has been decided to allot two acres of land Central Ground Water Board is assisting the in Command are to a farmer who has one State Boards. acre of land In hIS possessIon. [English] [English] Central Ground Water Board is assist- ing the State Government in supplementing If in a f,amily there are three brothers- information on plan and drawal of water from every major son IS treated as separate unit. underground. We are trying our best. No doubt it is a State subject. [ Translation] [ Translation] We will allot land in such a manner that they will get more than what they are getting Minor irrigation is a State subject. It does not at present. I went to the site on the 29th. I had come under central list. but these are good visited the village also. I observed that some projects. These projects can be completed people have 2 112 acres of land and some within a hour span of one or two years and its have a little more than \'tlis. Some'have three benefits become available very soon. We chIldren and their land is inadequate and dry. must undertake minor irrigation projects wherever and in whatever number it is pos- ( Interruptions) sible. In fact, we are doing the same. (Interruptions) [ Translation] [English] SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: When will this work be completed? MR. CHAIRMAN: let us follow the pro- 491 ChHnands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Wate, Resources & 492 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of AQricuIru,. oedure. let the han. Minister continue. Then firstc:omplate the on going schemes and not washallsee. to taka up new schemes tiHthose in hand are completed. (lntetrUptions) [ Ttanslation] ina projects should be complated within Several of the han. Members mad. a a definite time-frame. As on date, a number point for sprinklers and lift irrigation. An ac- of projects are lying incomplete for the last tion plan has since been drawn for this 15-20 years. We have issued strict direc~ purpose. but it has nof yet been approved. tions to States to complete these schemes Most probably, it will be approved soon. As during the 8th plan period. per the plan prospects sprinklers and lift irrigation facilitieS will be provided to 8 lakh SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: hectares of land during the Eighth Plan. We Please say something about the Sutlej~ are hopeful that It Will be done Yamuna link canal. Many hon. Members pointed out about SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: The Sut- under utilisation of Irrigation potential. There leJ-Yamuna link canaliS under construction. are also some hurdles In It. It IS a fact that It I shall come to that later IS not possible to make full utlhsatlon of the potential. But one thing I have notICed IS that There was a query about the clearance at the time of formulatIOn of the plan over- of the projects. I reply to that I have already reporting was done. When they send the saKi. proposal, they also prepare the plans In many cases, second system IS not com- [Eng/ish] pJeted. Suppose that the dam IS completed today but canal work IS not completed for the Not more than 14 months for majOr next 5 years The second drawback IS that of IrngatlOn pro)QC:ts and not more than ten non-maintenance of the system The system months for minor IrrigatIOn projects. IS not being maintained fully, as a result of which full benefits cannot be availed of The [ TranslatIon] development work of the command area IS not being done as effectIVely as It ought to ThiS will be the maximum time limit. We be. We Will do our best to see that Irrtgatlon have since ISSUed directions In this regard potential IS utilised to the maximum extent. and also told them that whenever they feel It Out of the total agncultural potential, we are necessary they can depute their offtcers to utiliSing 84 per cent and we shall make every Deihl. Similarly, If necessary. a team could effort to utilise the remainIng 16 per cent also be sent from the Centre to the States. In thiS way quenes, If any, could be sorted out Reterences were also made to the de- by slttmg across the table. Generally, much lay In project completion Several of the hon. time IS wasted In resolVing quenes and In Members endorsed thIS vIew The State unnecessary correspondence. Now that Governments do not take up as much work would not happen and there Will be no delay as they ought to take up in proportIOn to In getting the projects cleared resources avarlable with them. New projects are being started without planning. which Shn Santosh Mohan Dev made a point results In delay In completion A number to about the Tipalmukh proJect. Schemes are undergOing like thiS for the last 10-15-20 years Against the reqUirement of [English) Rs. 50 crores In a particular year, only Rs 5 crores are beIng allocated. We have SInce For thIS ProJect, agreement among rejected further proposals from the States Mlzoram, Manipur and Assam IS required. and Issued directions tothem that they should Special studies are gOing on so that project 493 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 494 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture could be techno-economically sanctioned. can say this much that as compared to forest land that is likely to be submerged, or trees [ Translation] likely to be cut, many more trees would grow to offset the loss. Thus, the issue is still lingering. Some- thing in this regard could be done only after Suggestions made about system im- this action is over. Similarly, Shri Santosh provement of canal lining were also taken Mohan Dev pointed out that there is no into consideration. h is hoped that with the Chairman in the Brahmaputra Board. I would improvement in the system, there will be an like to tell him that now a Chairman has been increase of at least 81akh million hectares of appointed. land during a period of 5 years. SHRI SANTOSH MOHAN DEV (Tripura There was a point about ,the Indira West): Who is he? Gandhi Canal. It is being financed by the Central Government. SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: You are asking about it today only. Had you asked [English] me yesterday, I would have given you his name. It is not possible 10 give the name at We would like to see that it is completed such a short notice. as early as possibte. Its functioning part is lying with the State Government. [ Translation] [ Translation] There was a point about the anti sea- erosion. t would like to request the hon. Member to make a request to the State Government [English] so that the work could be completed at the earliest. Beach Erosion Board is in existence and all the concerned States are its mem- AN HON. MEMBER: The matter relat- bers. ing to control of its head works has been decided over the years and you have. all [ Translation] along been writing about that. But the man- agement of this canal should be with the An han. Member from Andhra Pradesh Bhakra Beas Management Board and not had made this suggestion, but it is the duty of with the Government of Punjab as is the the State Governments to take action about case at present. Though the share of water anti sea-erosion. It comes under their juris- to be given to Rajasthan has been decided, diction. yet it is not getting its due share. What are you going to do in this regard? Similarly, a point was raised about the Upper Sikri Projects. It is pending with the [English] Ministry af Forest and Environment. There was also a reference to forest land in this SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: let us regard, but forest land does not come under meet all the M.Ps. concerned. my jurisdiction. (Interruptions) [ Translation] Earlier, the State Governments enjoyed this power, but oHerthe Forest ~nservation A complaint about Bihar was received Act came into being in f980, it ceased to be here. I have since told about 54 M.Ps. from a State subject. The Ministry of Forest and the lok Sabha and 22 M. Ps. from the Rajya Environment should consider this subject. I Sabha. 495 Dttmands for Grants MAY 14, 1990 Water ResoufCfIs & 496 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture [Sh. Manubhai Kotadia] [EngHsh] [English] Thank God, God has helped us and we are trying to manage it. On , 6th I have invited them and we are holding a meeting wherein we are thoroughly [ Translation] discussing all this. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Our ( Translation} minimum requirement is 30,000 cusecs. I shall also invite the hon. Members from [English] Rajasthan. SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: The (Eng/ish) Memorandum of Understanding was signed in 1985. You know that very much. In that, We will discuss and finalise. I will try to 60% was meant for Bangladesh and we resolve it. I don't say that I will resolve it; but were. entitled for 40%. I will try to resolve it. [ Translation] [ Translation] About 60,000 cusecs of water flow dur- There have been some oomplaints about ing the rainy season. It we work out its 40 per the Ganga Flood Control Commission. Only cent, it will come to 24,000 cusecs. the flood control scheme comes under the above Commission and Its role is to supple- [English] ment the State functions. It is not an execu- tive body like the C.W.C. I have tried to satisfy Bengal. [Eng/ish] [ Translation} The formation of all these schemes etc. As far as the Teesta Project is con- is meant for supplementing the State func- cerned, it was said that it should get central tions. aid. ( Translation] [English] There was a reference to Farakka also. The Government of West Bengal has Shri Amar Roypradhan made a point In this already proposed that they should get 50% regard. I would not like to say much in this aid. regard, but I will say this much that WfJ have tried to supply more water this year than the [ Translation] water supplied during the earlier years. It is difficult because there are no funds. [English] There is no money with the Central Govern- ment. (Interruptions) Even than, I shall dis- Last year it has gone down upto 26000 cuss your suggestion with the concerned cusecs. Ministry and the Planning Commission and I shall permit the amount whatever is sanc- [ Translation] tioned from here.(lntemJl)tions) So far as Bansagar Project is concerned. I would like This year, on no occaSion, the water to tell Mr. Shastri that work in the project is in supplied was less than 30,000 cusecs. progress. This project is going to be sliced by 497 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 498 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture 75 per cent, but work on the project is still in [ Translation] progress. I urge the hon. Members who have put [English] their Cut Motions to withdraw them and support and pass the Demand for Grants It is with the State Government. The regarding the Ministry of Water State Government has to implement it; they Resources ...... (Interruptions) are trying their best. But they are also facing the financial constraint. [English] [ Translation] MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI ( Intenvptions) (Rewa): I would like to request you to get it completed within three years. MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister has said that he has covered almost all the points. SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: I will take The crucial word is 'almost'. The water re- up this issue with the State Government. I source is very limited, which he has indi- had spoken to the Chief Minister of Madhya cated. But the subject is unlimited as every- Pradesh about it. Therefore, I will tell you, one knows. Therefore the discussion can whatever is possible .... (lnterruptions) continue indefinitely. So, as the Minister suggested, the residual points after it has SHRI K. D. SUL TANPURI (Shimla): You been almost covered-should be addressed have planned it very well but It is related to to him and he will reply to them. There is Assam alone. You have ignored Himachal absolutely no time for further questioning. Pradesh, which is a hilly area. What are you We have so many other things to take up. I doing about !rft irrigation schemes there? will now come to the voting. SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: We are ( Interruptions) reviewing the schemes in Himachal Pradesh. RAO BIRENDER SINGH (Mahendra- [English] 9arh): Sir, he has not dealt with the important point. I have tned to satisfy the ho'1. Members and I have tried to cover almost all the points, MR. CHAIRMAN: You are an Ex-Minis- which are raised by the han. Members. ter, You know how important points are dealt with. [ Trans/atlon] RAO BIRENDER SINGH: I wan! some I know that the-re are several members information and assurance from him. who still want to participate in the discussion, but due to paucity of time could not get an MR. CHAIRMAN: If you want to get op;:>ortunity to speak. I request those mem- some information, the easiest thing is to bers that if they have any suggestions. write to him. " the Minister is willing now, then it is okay. [English1 [ Translation1 " they write to me. definitely It will be RAO BIRENDER SINGH: The SatJuj attended to as it is suggested here, in the Yamuna Link Canal Project was to be com- House. and I will give the same treatment. pleted in 1983, The dead line fixed for this 499 o.mands for Grants MAY 14.1990 Water RflSoutr:es & 500 (Gfm.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricultuffl [Rao 8irender Singh] Ministry of Water Resources to the vote of the House. project has been extended six times and all the expenses have to be borne by the Cen- Cut MotkJns Nos. S5 and 86 W9ffI put trai Govemment. project estimate has been and negatived. raised from Rs. 176 crores to As. 548 crores. Can the Hon'ble Minister give an assuraoce MR. CHAIRMAN: I shall now put the about the dead line that has been fixed for Demands for Grants regarding the Ministry completion of this project and' when this of Water Resources to the vote of the House. project would be completed and whether this project would benefit some or all the amount The question is: spent on this project would be wasted? "That the respective sums not exceed- SHRI MANUBHAI KOTADIA: The work ing the .amounts on Revenue Account on this project is going on very well. I hope and Capital Account shown is the fourth that it will be completed by February' 1991. column of the Order Paper be granted to ( Interruptions) the President, out of the Consolidated Fund of India to complete the sums [English) necessary to defray the charges ending the 31 st day of March. 1991. in respect MR. CHAIRMAN: I will not allow any of the heads of Demands entered in the more clarifications. second column there of against De- mand No. 78, relating to the Ministry of I shall now put the Cut Motion Nos. 85 Water Resources." and 86 moved by Shri Palai K. M. Mathew in respect of the Demands for Grants of the The motion was adopted 501 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA24,1912 (SAKA) Water RfISOufCfIS & 502 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of Min. of AgricultUIlJ a! 1 ~ o o o ci o «i o a) CD o o o ci o ar) 1.0 ..".- o 8 ci (\I' o «i Cf) «i (0 503 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Waf.,. R8SOUI'CfHJ & 504 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of AQrIcuItute MR. CHAIRMAN: BefQf'e I call upon the by the House at 6 PM. So, you try to be brief Minister of Agricutture to reply, I would like to and complete before 6 PM. can upon Mr. Kumaramangalam to make his point. [ Translation) SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Mr. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Chairman Sir. originally as per schedule, DEPARTMENT OF RURAL. DEVELOP- these two Demands for Grants for the two MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICUL- Ministries were supposed to be put to the TURE (SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA): vote of the House around 2 PM. Now. it has Sir, I was listening very carefully to the sug- changed and it has become 6 PM nearly f~r gestions given by the hon. Members, par- these two Demands for Grants to be passed. ticularly because I am a nqw member of the By the time, I think, the day will be over when Lok Sabha and I had a great desire to listen they will be passed. Therefore, myrequestto to the speeches of the experienced mem- this House, through you Chairman Sir, is that bers of Lok Sabha, former Ministers of Lok the Demands may be guillotined day after Sabha, who were previously in the Govern- tomorrow at 3 PM instead of tomorrow so ment'and now have been elected as mem- that we can have atleast five to six hours bers of the Lok Sabha. , was also very much debate on Demands for Grants regarding eager to listen to the views of young mem- the Ministry of Labour and Ministry of Wel- bers of the Lok Sabha and during the discus- fare. sion I paid full attention to them. , think that whenever the Government changed at the MR. CHAIRMAN: Would the leaders of Centre, the new Government in power, has any party or others would like to make any all the merits and demerits of the previous comment on this point? Government before them. U is the responsi- bility of the new Government to carry on the ( Inte"uptions) good deeds of the previous Government. Besides, the new Government also pays its SEVERAL HON, MEMBERS: We agree attention the demerits. raw backs in the to this point. modus operandi of the previous Govern- ment and the tries to improve upon it. All the MR. CHAIRMAN: So, the guillotine will experienced Members have given their not take place tomorrow, It will take place suggestions in the House and criticised the day after tomorrow. The Mintster may clarify Government. It is true that criticism is not as to whether the time will be 3 PM or not. done only for the sake criticism, criticism is dona to make suggestion. criticism is done to ( InterruptIOns) create anything. criticism is done to make progress in appropriate manner, and it giv- TH MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ens strength to the Government. The criti- MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS cism made and the suggestions made by the AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- han. Members during the discussion held on TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL the Ministry of Agriculture has benefited me MALIK): So far as the time IS concerned. the a lot, I hope that I will be benefited by the BUSiness AdVISOry Committee will decide suggestions made by the Members in future tomorrow. also. The Members of the opposition were saying that a lot of progress had been made MR. CHAIRMAN: So, the exact time of in the field of agriculture, during their regime. the guillotine will be decided by the BAC I think that -if not lot of progress but there has tomorrow. Now, the Minister for Agriculture been some progress positively in this field may reply. I would like to draw the attention and we should not hesitate to accept it. Soon ofthe Minister to one point. namely. Half-an- after Independence, the production of hour Discussion is scheduled to be taken up foodgrains in the country was 5 crore 50 lakh 505 Dsmands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resoutr:fls & 506 (Gsn.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agricultum tonn.. but last year i. e. during 1989..90 our where less people depend on agriculture, production has been gone upto 17 erore 30 they produce so much that they eat them- lakhs tonnes. 11 is not an ordinary achieve- selves and also export it. In our courtly, ment and I would give this assurance that we where more people are engaged in agricul- would make further progress in the field of ture, we can not produce even to meet our agriculturaJ production in the country, in fu- requirement. It is a matter of concern that ture also. During the discussion several being an agricultural country, even today our Members pointed out that China has made a country depends .on other countries for lot of progress in this matter and that too in a pulses, oil seeds and sugar, and we have to short span of time. In this connection, I would beg from other countries-for pulses, like to draw the attention of the hon. Mem- oilseeds or sugar and sometimes we have to bers to the fact that China imported one import rice and wheat also, though we import crore 581akh tonnes foodgrains during 1987, rice and wheat very rarely. Therefore, our while India imported only 46.000 tonnes Government have now decided to make foodgrains from foreign countries, Even efforts to become self-reliant in next five today, China is importing foodgrains from years in respect of the items which are not other countries. About the figures that we sufficient to meet our requirement so as to have got in this regard. we consider rice as avoid dependence on others for these items. a foodgrains they consider paddy as a The government have decided to spend Rs. foodgrain. We do not include the production 24 crores for producing pulses and Rs. 54 of and potato sweet-potata as foodgrains but crores for oil seeds in the year 1990-91. in China all these are included in thf Besides. we have also decided to spend Rs. foodgrains. That is what I want to say. So 80 crores 50 lakhs in respect of dry and rain there is no need to feel sorry in this regard. fed farming whereas in 1989-90 only Rs. 19 But, it is necessary to to leam a lesson from crores were spent on it. Similarly, the previ- their achievements. The most intricate issue ous Government had spent Rs. 63.2 crores before us about agriculture is which even in 1989-90 to boost the rice production Shri Rai referred in his speech. that the whereas we have decided to spend Rs. 87 population of India IS much more than the crores in 1990-91 for the same. Similarly we area. In Russia and America, populatIon is want to encourage other things such as less than their area. In India, we have 32 lakh horticulture, dairy etc. So far as agricultural square K. Ms land, In America the land IS 94 production is concerned, it is true that farm- lakh Square K. lIAs and in Russia there IS 224 ers do not get remunerative prices for their lakh Square K. Ms of land. The population of produce and sometime do not get even our country IS 80 crore 50 lakh, the popula- production cost of their produce. I belong to tion of Amenca is 25 crore and in that of a village and have been connected with Russia is 29 crores. You should understand agriculture for the last 40-45 years. I know this basIC difference. You already know this that sugarcane crop is burnt in the field itself difference that population is more than area due to extreme fall in the price. Under such in our country. In those countries population circumstances. farmers prefar to burn their. IS less than their area. Manual skill is cheaper crop rather tt'.an harvesting and selling it in than machines in our country aod in those market which is unprofitable to them. Simi- countries machine IS cheaper than the larly they suffer losses in vegetables. Many manual skill. So you see what is the problem time I asked farmers as to why they were not before us. We have to see how best we can harvesting and selling their vegetables. They utilise our land so that we can feed our entire replied that they do not get back even trans- population. All of you also know the India is portation charges of the vegetables. As a a agricultural country and 67.1 percent people result of it, farmers do not get even produc- of our country depend on agriculture. In tion cost of their produce and they suffer America. 2.5 percent people depend on losses. The Government have paid atter.~ion agriculture and in Russia 14 percent people towards it and have said that the farmer depends on agrICulture. In the countries, should atlaast be paid that much price of 507 DlHTJands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water ResoulCtls & 5Q8 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min. of MIn. of Agrit:.vllute [Sh. Upendrs Nath Verma) do it. Only then some solution to the problem would come out. their produce which may avoid loss to him. The entire agricultural produce has not yet I was telling that the prices of certain been taken into consideration. h is under commodities have increased. We have fixed consideration and different committees have the support pricep of certain commodities. been constituted for this purpose. But in Whenever prices of any commodity starts respect of certain items. we have taken falling. the Government will procure that decision such as-in case of wheat, we have commodity so that the farmers do not incur decided to increase the support price by As. losses. The entire expenditure will be borne 15 which means an increase of As. 32 per by the Government. We have taken one quintal from the last years procurement price. more step and that is intervention in market Similarly we have decided to increase the in case of potatos, onion and grapes. Their procurement price of mustard by Rs. 65 per prices go very down. The Iuss in regard to quintal. Earlier the price of coconut was Rs. these crops will be borne on 50-50 basis by 1500 per quintal which has now been in- the Central Government and the State creased to Rs. 1600 per quintal. .I would like Government. Grapes are being produced in to say that the steps taken by the Govern- Punjab and Haryana. Our hon. Member. ment point towards the direction in which it Shri Bhajan Lal has full knowledge and wants to go ahead and in this regard we seek experience of these things. Its price go down your assistance and cooperation. When to Rs. 2 or As. 2.50 per kg. which causes harvesting season starts. the price of agri- anxiety among the growers and they repent cultural products go down and as soon as as to why they had grown it. They do not get the farmer sells his produce. the prices go up encouragement. Our Government have said again. The farmers do not get benefit. He that under such circumstances we shall inter- has to sell his produce at a cheap rate for vene in the market. I do not say that we have marriage ceremony. repayment of loan etc. solved all the problems or we are giving I have seen in Bihar particularly in Purniya remunerative prices to the farmers but we and Katiharthat even standing crop of paddy are determined to do so. For that purpose. is sold by the farmers. In this way the farmers we need your assistance and cooperation so suffer loses. The Government hav6 taken that we may go ahead in this direction. We steps in this direction and have increased want that even one farmer in this country the procurement prices of certain items which should not say that he is not getting remu- will definitely benefit the farmers and they nerative prices of his produce. will be abie to produce more. 17.53 hrs. There are many hurdles In the way of (MR. SPEAKER in the Chair) farmers. Just now it has been stated that water is essential for agriculture and without that nothing can be grown. In our country. 70 Shortage of water and power is also percent farmers have not been provided with adversely affecting the farmers. Just now an irrigation facility and they have to depend on hon. Member has said that electricity is rain. Even today. in many parts of the coun- provided for 4-5 hours only. I think that power try. God Inder is worshipped for rain but that sUPPJy for 4-5 hours is not adequate. In is also of no use. In this SCientific age. when Bihar, not to say of weeks and days, farmers man is landing on moon and many wonderful are not getting power supply for two hours in Inventions of science are taking place. our a month and some are not getting even that. land and human beings are crying for wator. They continue to wait for electric supply. We could not provide drinking water during Farmers and labourers continue to sit near the last 40-42 years of independence. We, the pump waiting for electricity and the crops all have to think over it as to why we could not are dried up. That is why the Government S09 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 510 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture have decided in favour of crop insurance. [ Translation] This decision was taken earlier. We have already paid many times of the amount we THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have received inthe form of insurance money DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND and we will continue to do so. I would like to c(x)PERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF say particularly to Shri Bhajan Lal that what- AGRICULTURE (SHRI NITISH KUMAR): ever they have done ill this regard, we shall Sir it is still the same as earlier. continue with that and whatever remains to be done, will be done by us. SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA: I have already told that the earlier scheme is being SHRI K. D. SULTANPURI (Shimla): Sir, continued and we shall continue with that. If I would like to know about the apples. You any improvement in the scheme is required, have told about the support prices of grapes we shall think over that but we consider it a and other commodities. In Himachal Pradesh. useful scheme and that is why we are con- there is problem of apples. Will the Govern- tinUing with it. ment reconsider the support pnce of apple" DR KHUSHAL PARASRAM BOPCHE SHAI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Sir I (Bhandara): Mr. Speaker Sir, just now the would like to know from the Minister that in hon. Minister has said that they would con- case the Government procures the grapes. tinue the existing crop insurance scheme. what would be its utility. You can keep apples But that is a defective scheme because it in cold storage for two months but grapes does not provide insurance of the crop but cannot be kept there for more than 4-6 days. merely rovers the amount of loan. In that You will destroy the country .... ( Interruptions) case also, the crop average of three years is The hon. Minister will never admit the fact of calculated and then insurance amount on selling wine. loan is paid. The insurance rompany does not say that it would pay the insurance amount SHAI UPENDAA NATH VERMA: If only when a person dies thrice. The existing grapes become cheap, they are sold imme- insurance scheme is very defective and diately. H it is purchased at Rs. 2.50 it can be requires to be changed completely and the sold easily at Rs. 5 per kg. because at Government have to pay full compensation present it is being sold at the rate of Rs. 141 to the farmers. - There IS no problem of selling it and even if there is any problem in rt even then Govern- SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA: I have ment have to do rt to encourage the farmers. already said that if some improvements are Just now the hon Member from Himachal required in it we shall do that also. h was also Pradesh has rrghtly pointed out about apples. pointed out that there is shortage of fertilizer. We have discussed about it and talked to the h IS right because many fertilizer plants are offICers also. Himachal Pradesh IS known as lying 'dosed and many plants are running in an Apple State. We are thinking ove~ it also loss. Just now an han. Member said that but till now no final deCISIOn has been In this Government should take over these plants regard. I have said It at the outset that it is our and should run them. h is right but I would like beglnnrng. to tell him that we ,",ave received reports about three plants and we are thinking of renovating them. We are considering that [Eng/ish] report. During Eighth Five Year Plan we shall renovate only these three plants. We PROF. N. G. AANGA (Guntur): As far shall not take any other plant for renovation as crop Insurance is concerned it used to be except these three. there up&o Mandals. Has rt been extended right upto the Villages. ? Shri Bhajan Lal has said one thing that 511 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water RfISOun::es & 512 (Gen J, 1990-91 Mm of Min. of Agriculture [Sh Upendra Nath Verma1 SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: The unem- ployment positIOn In Ra;asthan is worst and the Government have not made any alloca- ..... ( IntemJptions) tIOn for NatIOnal Rural Employment Pro- gramme and Rural Landless Guarantee SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA: I want Programme. h IS true that I have not done It. to tell you that the problem of drinking water When Shn Bha,an Lal was the Agncuhure IS also very critical. There are about more Mlntster, he had merged both the pro- than 6000-7000 problem VIllages in the grammes Into Jawahar Rozgar YOjana. I country where water IS neither available under would like to say that whatever he has done, the land nor It IS available WIthin a radius of 'am continuing that only H you are forgetting 1 K.M We want to solve the problem of such that now, how are we at fault You have problem Villages within two years. We want 'Y0urseH merged both the programmes I that even partially drinking water may reach would also hke to say about Jawahar Rozgar In every Village h IS our aim YOJana (InterruptIOns) It has appeared In the newspapers about the Jawahar Rozgar A lot of diSCUSSIOn took place here about YOJana that only 50 per cent of the target has Inequality and disparity It IS true that dispar- been achieved but It IS not true Under Ity IS prevalhng In all over the country but Jawahar Rozgar YOJana 85 per cent of the what IS the use of giving flQures Our col- amount has been spent and 93 per cent leagues and friends srttmg here know very achievement IS there Reports from many well about It There IS great disparity In the states are stili awaited I also would like to matter pertaining to drinking water In Deihl, say that there IS an Increased of 10 per cent 240 Iltres of water IS available per capita per IS rT1andays So far as the Jawahar Rozgar day, whereas In Villages only 10-15 liters of YOJana IS concerned, no maJOr change has water IS available and In certain Villages been made In It There are two-three minor even that much IS not available We are changes In It Earherfunds were sent directly trying to reduce thiS disparity It IS my humble to the dlstncts whereas now they are sent request to all the hon Members that they through State Governments We cannot may cooperate with us and help us and IQnore the State Governments Secondly, kindly withdraw their cut motIOn In thiS re- earlier under thiS scheme money spent on gard We Will always consider the sugges- labour and material was at the ratIO of 50 50 tions of the Hon Members and Will take and now we have made shght change In It advantage of them We have now decided to spend 60 per cent on labour and 40 percent on matenal These In the end, I would like to say that there are the minor change whICh we have mad In IS less land In comparison to the population It We shall Increase It further We shall go In our country We want that there should be ahead In thiS direction We are also thinking surplus production offoodgralns In ourcoun- about Rural Employment Guarantee Pro- try sothat It can enter the International market gramme and shall reintroduce rt In 1990-91 Itself But It cannot be Implemented all over With these works, I would request that the country because It needs a large sum of these demands may kindly be accepted money We want to Implement It at selected places such as In drought affected areas [English] where people are faCing employment prob- lem We want to do It In consultation with SHRI P R KUMARAMANGALAM State Governments as Adarsh Gramm (Salem) Sir, the hon Mlntster while replYing YOJana IS gOing on In Maharashtra Employ- had mentioned about the problem that all ment Guarantee Scheme IS In eXistence On agriculturists have with regard to water for Similar pattern we want to Introduce such Irrigation purposes They have also another scheme IS some selected districts In the problem, WhICh, I think he should have re- entire country ( IntprruptKJns) ferred to. but he did not with suffICient sen- 513 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resources & 514 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of AgricuHure ousness. Irrigation is a very far-off dream. support price. I want to know you reaction on What about the drinking water? In fact, in my this also ... (lnterrtlptions) ~istrict, they not only have the problem of irrigation water, which, of course, has be- 18.08 hr •• . come dearer than gold, but the problem today is that there is not even drinking water. [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chait1 Under the Mini Mission for drinking water, As. 7 crores was allotted. But only As. 1.30 [ Translation] crores has reached the Salem District. I request you to look into it. I had mentioned SHRI BABUBHAI MEGHJI SHAH about this while I was speaking. I would like (Kutch): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, just now to know your reaction. the hon. Minister has said that the products like onion, grapes and potato, prices of which Secondly, I understand that Mr. Devi go down, are purchased through market Lalji, when he went to China, appreciated the intervention. As regards market intervention small tractor-one engine.12 HP tractor, etc. in the matter of in edible oils, oilseeds have for the small folding. Is the Minister aware not been purchased' directly from farmers. that in India, the designs of small tractor Kindly clear the policy of the Government in have been pending for manufacturing for this regard and tell us as to whether oilseed. over twenty years? You go to China and and oilseed products will be purchased di- appreciate it. Why do you not try and find out rectly from the farmers. whether it is developed in India? And if you really appreciate it, why not give these small SHRJ DAU DAYAL JOSHI: It is reported entrepreneurs an opportunity to manufac- in the news papers almost daily that spurious ture it? pesticides are sold in abundance. Secondly, spurious and sub-standard seeds are avail- PROF. P. J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): I able in abundance. Secondly, spurious and have to ask only two clarifications. The first sub-s.tandard seeds are available in abun- one has been asked by my fnend Shri dance in the whole country as a result to Kumaramangalam, about the small tractors. which farmers are suffering a lot. Hon. Min- Mr. Devi Lal went to China and appreciated ister should clarity as to whether Govern- the small tractor of 12 HP. It is a fact that the ment is considering to enact a new law to small tractors have already been manufac- make provision of stringent punishment to tured in our country also. It was manufac- those who are selling spurious medicines tured in Calcutta It has to be tested. It has and sub-standard seeds in the country. already been in eXistence In India. So. I would hke to know from the Minister. whether SHRI RA TILAL KAUDAS VERMA he will consider thiS tractor, which is indi- (Dhandhuka): Mr. Deputy Speaker, I belong genously manufactured and to be tested. to Ahmedabad district. Besides drought, salinity of seal affects the agriculture in this Secondly, more than one Member here area as a result of which seeds sown by the mentioned about the support price of coco- farmers get rotten. Crop Insurance Scheme nut, which you did not mention anything has been implemented for a few crop in that about in your reply. Coconut IS grown in area. It is my submission that keeping in view Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Orissa, the situation there all the crops should be Andhra Pradesh-almost in all the coastal brought under Crop Insurance Scheme. States. The support price is very low. Some Members have mentioned about that also. Farmers get some compensation under The support price. which you have declared. Crop Insurance Scheme. If a poor labourer IS very low. The pnce is not remunerative who sows the crops. dies as a result of biting and the farmers are giVing It at a throw-away by poisonous insects or dies while sprinkling price. There IS a demand for increaSing the poisonous pesticides, there is no such provi- 515 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water RBSOU1C9S & 516 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture [Sh. Ratilal Kalidas Verma) namesake, it has not been increased for years together. I think it is same for the last sion for giving compensation to him. It is my 30-40 years. Whether there is any proposal submission that Crop Insurance Scheme to increase this amount or not? Secondly, should also be implemented in respect while mentioning the name of ex-Minister of thereof. Congress Party, Han. Minister has said that we will go ahead with the works initiated by SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI (Sonepat): him. the han. Minister should clarify as to Deputy Speaker, Sir, 104 year old Act of whether corruption wHI also be allowed to 1887 is deforce in Haryana-Punjab. Under increase because this statement of the hon. articles 67-68-69 of this Act lands are ac- Minister has arisen an apprehension in our quired. These are acquired in lieu of non- minds. payment of loans by the farmers. According to rules. lands should not ~ auctioned and [English] acquired agamst the loans of the farmers. Talks are going on about waiving off loans of PROF. N. G. RANGA (Guntur): I wish to the farmers. Talks are going on about waIv- express my appreciation of the fine gesture ing off loans upto Rs. 10,000 but if it is made shown by this Government by entrusting effective from 2nd October, 1987. farmers agriculture to the second most important will not get any benefit what to talk of Rs. Minister in the Cabinet Le. Deputy Prime 10.000. What is Governments proposal in Minister. I have expressed this earlier. Now this regard? I want to make it definite today. I would have been happier if he could have been present SHRI K. D. SULTANPURI (Shimla): Mr. today. Unfortunately, he seems to be still Deputy Speaker. Sir. I am thankful to the unwell. I would like to express on behalf of Han. Minister for discussing the issues like may colleagues, our good wishes for his IrrigatIOn schemes and drinking water. While seooy recovery so that he would be able to diSCUSSing the issues hon. Minister talked give effective leadership to all his colleagues about the distance of one mile. It is my in the Ministry, more especially in the Gov- submiSSIOn In this regard that a distance of ernment. I would like my hon. friends, the one mile IS a great distance in hilly areas Minister concerned to consider just one point because of height. Whether hon. Minister that this crop insurance should be extended will get conducted any survey about Hima- to all the growers., whatever crops they may chal Pradesh so that irrigation facilities can take up, and not merely to those who borrow be provided in hilly areas? Will han. Minister money from cooperative societies, and also be able to State as to whether any lift Irriga- on the basis of village at least, not as it is now tion scheme will also be considered or not? in Maharashtra, that is. only on the basis of a Mandai or haH a MandaI. Similarly, han. Mlmstertalked abo... 1e support prices for all the products. Sl' .. port [ Translation] pnces are being provided for the grap.. > and coconut. but support prices are not being SHRI RAM KRISAN YADAV provided to appie growers In Himachal (Azamgarh): Mr, Deputy Speaker, Sir, Hon. Pradesh and other areas. I want to submit to Minister has delivered very good speech in han. Minister IS his regard whether Govern- connection with agriculture. But he has not ment is considering to provide support pnc~s said a single word about the main problem. frof g'rapes and other fruits like plums. I would like to point out that the tillers are without land. Only 10 per cent farmers are KUMARI UMA BHARATI (Khajuraho):"l having sufficient landfor agriculture. Whether w5nt to ask two questions from han Minister. Government propose to bring land reforms Fir;tly. compensation which is granted for and acquire land from those people who do !he ~rops spoiled due to hailstorm. is only for not cultivate it themselves? As far as I know 517 Demands for Grants VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Water Resourr:es & 518 (Gen.). 1990-91 Min.-of Min. of Agriculture barren land is double then agricuhure land. concerned. we are taking expeditious action Whether there is any scheme to provide land in this regard. If any han. Member comes to the agriculturists? If lands are rot provided across any problem, he may please write to to the farmers under the co-operative sys- me and I will take immediate action. Another tem, I believe development of agriculture is hon. Member has said that the tillers are not possible. Nothing has been said by the landless. The owners of land are those people hon. Minister in this regard. Please say some who think it a sin to touch the plough. The thing about it. slogan of 'Land to the Tiller' is in vogue since the time of Pt. Jawahar Lal Nehru, but noth- SHRI PYARELAL KHANDELWAL ing can be said confidently as to what extent (Rajgarh): I would like to draw the attention we have achie\red success in it. But it is clear of the Hon. Minister towards a basic prob- that success is for from it. Only some aware- lem. Due to continuous division of agricul- ness can be seen in this regard. The slogan ture land. agriculture has been becoming of 'land to tiller' is correct but what is the use un-economic for the past few years. I would of a look for an illiterate man. It is absolutely like to know from the Han. Minister as to true that if land is allotted to the labourers whether Government has any scheme un- who have got the capacity to cultivate it, der which agriculture can be made profitable production can increase many Bold. But we instead of its being un-economic_ have to take steps in this regard. It is clear that our aim is not only to increase produc- SHRI JORAWAR RAM (Palamau): Mr. tion but to give social justice also. In this Deputy Speaker. Sir. there has been erratic regard we can achieve success by giving power supply in Bihar for the past 3-4 years social justice as well as by increasing pro- and power is made available for very little duction. In the end, I would like to submit that time_ I would like know as to what action is I am grateful to the Han. Members for the proposed to be taken by Government in this suggestions made by them and I would also regard. like to say that their suggestions are always welcome and I would certainly give reply to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You cannot them. say like this. [English) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I shall now MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICUL- put the Demands for Grants relating to the TURE (SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA): Ministry of Agriculture to the vote of the Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. earlier I had men- House. The question is: tioned about Crop Insurance Scheme. My colleagues had clarified in thiS regard that at "That the respective sums not F 9 0 d- pr~sent this scheme is applicable to only ing the amounts on Revenue II o_nt those who have taken loans. Mr. and Capital Account shown in the Fourth Kumaramangalam raised a question, to column of the Order Paper be granted to which he will get a reply very soon may be the President. out of the Consolidated today itself. We have already released Fund of India to complete the sums whatever has been demanded by you but necessary to defray the chargas that the problem is that the State Government will come in course of payment during has not furnished the details of what has the year ending the 31 st day of March, been proviUed to it earlier. Details have not 1991, in respect of the heads of De- been received from many States. That is mands entered in the second column why problems are coming. thereof against Demand Nos. 1 to 5 relating to Ministry of Agriculture." So far as problem of drinking water is The motion was adopted. 519 Demands for Grants MAY 14,1990 Water Resources & 520 (Gen.), 1990-91 Min. of Min. of Agriculture 8 ci° go -~ o o o o o o o 8 ci ci ci q o ai N to° ~ c:i a::i &r) M co ~ C\I C\I w a: ~ ::) o o o °8 o ci ci a: o. o ~ cr) to LL ,...: o ~ >- ~ C/) Z ~ o W o o o :::I: o o o l- ci o o LL o ci ci o o o ~ N &r) I- W C\I ...... o ...... 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(English] Some districts of Madhya Pradesh also Droughtprone districts In Bundelkhand form part of Bundelkand region in addition to region the districts of Uttar Pradesh. I would like to point out that drought cond'ltions are worsen- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We shall now ing there because of local circumstances. take up HaH-an-hourdiscussion Kumari Uma Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I would like to tell Bharati is to initiate the discussion Kumari the Hort. Minister of Agriculture about the Uma Bharati is to initiate the discussion on tragedy of that region before raising the the points arising out of the answer given on issued of the drought condition. Bandelkhand 29th March, 1990 to unstarred question No- is one of the most prosperous regions. In a 2807 regarding drought prone districts in away, there is no dearth of anything. The Bundelkhand region. region has produced poets like Tulsidas, Chetak, Mathilisharan Gupta, warriors like [ Translation] Chhatrsal and laxshmibai and litteratuers like Virndavan lal V&rma. Several rivers like . KUMARI UMA BHARATI (Khajuraho): Vor and Ken flow through this region. the Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir,. I had to demand mineral resources are in abuneance there. Half-an -hour discussion because I have The piamonds are still found in mines of raised several times the problem of drought Panna and these are being extracted from in Bundelkhand during zero hour but the mines of Mhow also. There is no dearth of Hon. Minister has not given any reply to me anything. But still this area remains neglected till date. I had also given notice of a questio!1 because it has had no representation in the in this regard which was admitted as unstar- Central Cabinet and nor did any person of red question. In this regard I have a com- this area get a chance to become the Chief plaint to make against the Hon. Minister of Minister. There is no industry despite availa- Agriculture and his Ministry that the answer bility in abundance of mineral resources. that I received was very strange. I has asked Dams have never been constructed there. as to how many districts of Bundelkhand The drought conditions are so bad there that were drought effected. I would like to draw a couplet recur to my mind. the attention of the Hon. Minister of Agricul- ture towards the answer that I received. I "Pandit tu to bola tha pashan badal was surprised to read that answer because jayego, according to the information of Minister of Aur Mulla tu bji bola tha Rehman badal Agriculture, Bundelkhand includes only the jayega, districts of Uttar Pradesh whereas the dis- Ab bhi avsar hai samjh Ie, Varna ter.lsh tricts of Madhya Pradesh are also the part of aur this region and the centre of Bundelkhand is Allah ko bhukha insaan nigal jayega.• Tikamgarh, which is in Madhya Pradesh. But it was not mentioned. Then only I decided to This region is going to face similar situ- raise this matter in the House through HaH- ation. As I have said, almost every part of an-hour discussion to apprise the House of Madhya Pradesh and of other states are drought condition prevailing in Bundelkhand. facing drought condition~ about the condi- Presently several States of the country and tion of that area is worst because of peculiar many parts of Madhya Pradesh are affected circumstanct:t::i. I feel that the Ministry of by drought. I would like to point out that the Agriculture has no information about drought Govemment of Madhya Pradesh had asked affected districts of Bundelkhand region. for Rs. 80 crore for drought relief but only a Jhansi, Hamirpur, Band, Jaton and lalitpur 525 HaH-An-Hour VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Droughtprone districts 526 Discussion in Bundelkhand distl ids of Uttar Pradesh and Tikamgarh, tion of the previous state Government and Chhatarpur, Panna, Damoh and Sagar dis- the Central Government and we are trying to tricts' of Madhya Pradesh from part of Bun- draw the attention of the present Govern- delkhand region. The number of persons ment also towards it, but it seems that no- belonging to Scheduled Castes and Sched- body has given any importance to this pr0b- uled Tribes is very large in these districts. lem because this regions has gone unrepre- These are the landless people, who did not sented in the Government. The people have get land under land reform laws due to been facing hardships but they were not able corruption. The big landlords and Zamindars to raise their voice. Sometime ago, a for- had transferred the title of the land in the eigner came to India and while going back names of their sons, daughteT in-laws and aftertouring the country he commented ·'ndia grandchildren. That is why this situation is is a rich country where poor people live." It is continuing. The persons belonging to Sched- due to economic disparaties. This is the uled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and back- situation of that region. ward classes did not get land and they are illiterate also. Therefore they have to work in There are former princes and zamindars fields. They do the work of sowing. irrigation in each village who have 300-400 acres of or harvesting but they do not get sufficient land. They are holding land by violating remuneration for their labour. They do not every rule and law. They have benami land get sufficient remuneration for their labour. in the names of their servants and slaves, They do not suffiCient remuneration for their The lease deeds are with them so that the labour. They are not able to make their both servants or slaves may not claim their own- ends meet. When they do not get work in ership on that land at any point of time. So, fields because of recurrence of drought. they the persons belonging to Scheduled caste, begin to migrate to Punjab, Calcutla and Scheduled Tribe INld Backward classes are Delhi. I met some persons in Punjab and being exploited. Actually Bundelkhand re- asked them, whether there was a risk to their .,gio14 has not got real independence so far life? They replied even if they die there it and it will take time. Some people ask me would not be due to starvation. Migration why I have joined politics because I am more shows upward trend. interested in religious discourses. I would like to say that I have joined politics to raise Reports appear in the newspapers the voice of my region in the House because regularly that the dacoity menace is likely to this area has been discriminated. The people reemerge. On this region because of recur- like me attach more importance to the poor rence of drought. The youth of. that region is farmers. and those persons who have been frustrated. That IS why they are forced to ruined due to drought than to Ram Janam adopt the part of crime. Those persons who Bhoomi Temple to be constructed in could not migrate due to family circum- Ayodhya. We feel something must be done stances, are going on the path of crime and for them. h is our duty to draw the attention it is happening in the entire Bundelkhand. of the Government towards their problems. The situation of drought IS more severe there There is a river named (Ken) which flows than in any other area. Therefore, a large between the districts of Chhatarpur and number of people have no alternative but to Banda. Had the proposed Greater ken multi- work in the fields to make their both ends purpose project been completed, that area meet. When people do not get other means would not have faced such a severe drought. they will be forcR"; +0 flee their villages. The But this project was thrown in cold-storage drought has been occurring there for four due to adverse report from Environment years successively. Those people, who left department. It is also in the air that this their viHages have not come back so for. project was stalled due to some conflict Therefore, the villages of this region are between the Governments and Uttar Pradesh becoming ruins. The situation will deterio- and Madhya Pradesh. Thus, this project rate further. We had tried to draw the atten- which would have been beneticial for many 527 HaJI-An-Hour MAY 14.1990 Droughfprone distl'icts 528 Discussion in Bundelchand [Kumari Uma Bharatij would like to ask as to how long would it take for tne Government to rise to meet the situ- districts tike Chhattarpur. Banda. Panna. ation and to take care of the drought-hit and Harirpur is lying in the cold storage. Had region? The fund of As. 37 crores povided this project been completed. Lalitpur district region to meet the drought situation is not would have faced no drought. Similarly the sufficient. The drought-hit areas of Bun- work on orchha project is also inoomplete in delkhand would require at best an amount of the absence of oonnevence of Uttar Pradesh Rs. 20 crores. There must be a permanent Government. This project would have surely SQlution to this drought problem. In 1964. saved the districts like Chhatarpur Ti- while I was just a child of 4 or 5 years age, kamgarh. Lalitpur and Jhansifrom the prob- there was a severe drought which had forced lem and drought as indicted in the survey my own family members to eat the bark of the which was already undertaken. Again the trees. I am atraid that the same situation may Sujara bridge oroject which cOuld have res- repeat itself once again. Whenever there is cued the districts like Tikamgarh Chhattar- a drought. the condition of that area be- pur etc. from the problem of drought was comes pitiable, Mr. Speaker. Sir, its main kept in cold-starage. reason is massive anEt indiscriminate defor- estation which. reduces the respect. of rain. Theretore, I hold that the droughts is not The people have been contesting elections simply a natural calamity and cause of its for the last 40 years with the help of the genesis lies on going neglect by central and money received illegally from the half of the state Governments also. This situation is the money received illegally from the fellingard result of neglect on the part of the people's selling the frees of teak-word in Connivance representative from that area. I have re- with the corrupt officials. For fear of getting turned from there yesterday. Thousands of caught, they put those tress in the names of antmals are dying there due to starvation. the poor people. so that while poor people Though, human death has not been re- are Convicted. they may go set free. As a ported. as yet. but animals have died. While result even those paths have become un- on a tour to Japan to have a review of shaded which used to remain dark in day- situation of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, I saw light due to over arching frees. Therefore the that death of person was registered and the free plantation and afforestation is a must for cause mentioned was the bomb explosion that area. This would remain a drought while the person in question was at that time prove area till the projects like larger ken in natal position. Therefore, I would like to multipurpose projects. sujara bridge proj- say that though the people are not dYing as ects over Dhasan river and Orachha bridge yet. but they will die later due to ~carcity of over river Betwa are restarted and com- food and milk and malnutrition caused pleted. otherwise. the people of Bundelkhand thereby. Same people have said that it could would be the worst victims. due to recovering not attract the Governments attention as no droughts. one has died so far. How is it so? Why nothing less than human death attracts Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, most of the Governments attention? Why the Govern- people of Bundelkhand are either landless ment IS unconcerned about the death of labourers or marginal farmers and they find animals? I would like to say that the main if difficult to eke out their living. The drought reason of labourers migration from there to of just one year is enough to starve them as Punjab, is chronic drought. Many people of they donot grow enough food to save for Bundelkhand have been killed there by the emergency. Thus the plight of the people of terrorrsts. Had there been no drought in Bundalkhand is the creation of the earlier Bundelkhand region they would of have been Congress Governments at the Centre. in forced to leave their hemes and families to Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh as they serve in a place so distant. did not care for this region and did no plan- ning for it. These people are facing the bad Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, through you I situation created by these Governments. In 529 Half-An-Hour VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Droughlprone districIs 530 [);scussion in Bundelchand addition, the economy is unbalanced and been most neglected and Hlitreated region. bankrupt. I would like to conY'*Y to you that No Chief Minister hailed from this region and the people of that region have resolved to this has added to the woes of this region as press their demands and t~' are deter- the Chief Minister and other Minister give mined to get their demands fulfiUed. I had more attention to their respective constitu- mentioned this problem to the Minister of encies. Unfortunately. l'nOst of the people's Agriculture and Deputy Prime Minister and I repr~sentatives from here proved to be dumb had met him about it I also asked about the and were unable to plead for the cause of the action being taken as the problem in those region. As a result it ~as entirety neglected districts was very serious. I told him that and has not got even a raHway-line. h ap- hand pumps are not going to solve the prob- pears that this is causing disoomfort to some lem. AH the projects for that region end up as of my colleagues. They should feel the dis- paper-projects and hands pumps cannot be comfort after all who has raised a voice seen there. While the statistics mention the about that area till date. Had anybody sup- number of hand pumps but actually no hand ported their cause, definitely there would pump has been installed in any village. In have been an industry today in that mineral this region there is a district like Tikamgarh rich area, at least a dam would have been which, you would be surprised to know, has built in that area where so many rivers are as many as 7 thousand wells and 6 hundred flowing. There is no dearth of land had there ponds. I think that no district in India has so been a proper distribution of the land. The many wells and ponds. Despite all this, this people should bot have been rendered lan- district was the worst victim of drought. The dless there. I would like to submit that to do reason is that neither the ponds nor wells away with the injustice done to this area first have been repaired properly. Had this work of all a study team should be sent there. h been done, Tikamgarh would not have been should link into the problems of the people affected by drought. facing severe drought conditions. As far as possible maximum fund should be provided Chhattarpur district has been adversely to the State Governments of Uttar Pradesh affected as the majority population in the and Madhya Pradesh for undertaking relief district consists of Scheduled Caste and works in Bundelkhand as certain districts of Scheduled Tribe people. The unbroken feu- Bundelkhand fall in the territories of both the dalism has brought about such a degenera- States. As regards building of dams for that tion amongst them that they do not think of area I submit that in order to tackle the . themselves as human beings. They think of problem of recurring drought situation Sujara themselves as animals. Their conscience Dam Project and Vetuwa Project should be has been suppressed too much. If the water undertaken. is available in some wells there, then that well falls in the area of Upper Caste people Since I am not at all satisfied with the and they cannot draw water from it. As a redicuJous reply given I am forced to raise result they are forced to drink muddy water this matter. I was wondering how the Ministry full of worms. We have often exhorted them of Agriculture has become so ignorant as not to give up this wretched form of _life devoid of to include the names of five districts in the any self-respect or realisation of their entity Budelkhand. I was at a loss what to do next. but it would take time to make them con- scious of their true work. As these people are Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, disgressing a suffering these days I had to highlight the little I would like to mention that if this injus- problems which they face. Many people have tice cotinues unabated, the day is not very questioned the need for special treatment to far when the people of Bundelkhand will this region where as the entire country is make a demand for separate Bundelkhand. suffering from drought. I would like to say How long they will remain annexed with Uttar that this is so because this region is in worst Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh. They are condition in enttre nation. It has perhaps bound to raise their voice for serarate State 531 Half-An-Hour MAY 14,1990 Droughtprone districts 532 Discussion in BundBldJand [Kumari Urna Bharatij nately. they themselves. not understanding what is the impact of it. are being encour- so that they could shape it is their own style aged by people in authority today to do this a~ are able to solve their problems by deforestation in order that they can survive themselves. I am' sure that WI views of my economically and those who are in authority humble submission something will be done today can rise to more power. for that area and I shall not have to raise this matter time and again during Zero Hour. Mr. let me make it clear that this became Deputy Speaker. Sir, I feel as if the matters the trend only in this election. Before this, it raised in the Zero Hour get vanished in was never thought an election technique. h vacuum. A number of times I have raised the was the contractor who used to indulge in it. question about the drought conditions pre- Now it has become election technique. vailing there and have asked to pay attention Anyway, I do not want to go into the dispute towards this. Thousands of cattle are dying and lakhs of people are migrating from there Who does it. is irrelevant. The fact that but neither any appropriate reply was given it has been done in a place, in an area in to ml3 nor any solution to this problem was Madhya Pradesh which not only gives suggested. emeralds and diamonds, not only gives valu- able minerals, but has rivers today which are With these words, I conclude and hope having drought for over four years. I would that very soon certain measures would be like to know thought you. Mr. Deputy- adopted to solve thiS problem on permanent Speaker. Sir. from the hon. Minister whether baSIS and sufficient funds will be provided for there is any method by which he can reclas- immediate relief and a study team will also sify heavily drought-prone areas. My own be sent ther'" to assess the situation. district has this problem. We are called drought prone. That is. we are constantly [English] looked upon as an area which will be in continuous drought. Are they going to de- SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGAlAM clare as desert after we become full of sand (Salem): Mr. Deputy-Speaker. Sir, drought, only? Or would they give us a secondary as mentioned by Kuman Umabhartiji, is status as desert at least so that the allocation actually not limited either to one State orone that is given is increased? area. unfortunately. in our country. And I must endorse her observation about some I can see from the answer that was foreigner to the effect that we are a rich given in writing to the Unstarred Question by country where poor people frve. Thissitu- the han. Minister that funds ranging from Rs. ation is unfortunately becoming from bad to 15 lakhs to As. 18.5 lakhs per year per block worse. She has very strongly brought forth was all that was allotted for these drought the fact that one of the major reasons for prone area programmes. One thing is very drought and continuous drought in Bun- clear. The amount of money that is allotted. delkhand area is the fact that deforestation if one looks at it from the per capita point of took place. I think. 11 would be my duty also views, is a party sum. Paltry is not the only· to bnng to the notice of this House, thought word, if is insignificant. Will it really contrib- you and to the Mover of thiS Hall-an-Hour ute in either alleviating the immediate suffer- D,scuss,on Kuma" Umabhartiji that not only ings or will it even contribute in terms of long is deforestation nowadays done for the pur- term rejuvination ofthe area? I have sincere pose of immediate gains, but it has also doubts. I think we must have a good relook become part of a political payment for politi- at this programme not only from the point of cal pay ofts. In other words. in certain areas view of a1ding additional areas, but also in Madhya Pradesh, I do not think I need to whether the allocations will do. mention it-which areas-we have seen heavy deforestation by local population. Unfortu- I agree with the mover of the discussion 533 Half-An-Hour VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Droughtprons districts 534- Discussion. in BundeJdJand that it should come to a state of affairs where area programme or for de$.ert area pro'" we have millions dying and drying due to gramme, of allocation that you do no the per drought and then you say it is no longer capita basis is not giving sufficient amount. drought, it is famine and therefore from As. Essentially from the point of view of the value 15 lakhs you will increase it to Rs. 20 lakhs of real money, if one looks aI: what was the and think that you have brought a great value in 1960 and what is the value today, revolution about. let us not make a mockery even now the Finance Minister woukJ inform of natural c~amities. you thai: it has gone down by ten times. That is, today's ten paise has the purchasing let me make one thing clear. Many a power of one paisa of 1960. natural calamity is man-made. It is not immediate man-made; but it is historically I think it is relevant and important that man-made. One of the reasons for this, as I the Minister sholJld reconsider changing the have stated, is that it is an admitted fact that norms firstly; seGondly changing the amount most of the areas which are today drought of allocation or. a per capita basis. Thirdly prone, have become so because of heavy pease do consider regularly-drought-prone deforestation, excessive exploitation,lackof areas. There are many which will come proper irrigation facilities and lack of proper within that classification. Please five them a planning, whether Ministers visit or do not higher allocation and ensure that at least visit. I am sure at least in the State of Madhya employment potential is created locally. Pradesh the mover of this discussion can Otherwise migration of labour which is a ensure that a Minister come into being in the major problem would become a problem that State Government because afterall her party is unmanageable and one of the causes for is in pow.er there and she should have no extremism would come into difficulty In ensuring that. If she needs any being. (/nteffuptions) additional support from outside, we are will- ing to give it to her. [ Translation] [ Trans/ation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- KUMAR' UMA BHARA TJ: Ministers visit MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICUL- time and again. ihe Chief Minister paid visits TURE (SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA): too. But the Central Government is showing Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, 'his half an hour reluctance. discussion relates to the unstarred question No. 2807 of 29th March, 1990. The hon lady SHRJ PAYRELAL KHANDElWAl Member. Kumari Uma Bharati had asked as (Rajgarh): Sufficient deforestation with your to why Chhatarpur and Tikamgarh were not cooperation took place In t~e last few years. included in the drought prone area pro- gramme? Tne fact is that since the time this SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGALAM: drought prone area programme has been What your Minister did is published in the launched these two districts have never been newspaper. You :nay read it. Don't think we included in it. The reason being that both the are unaware of what you do or what you·r districts do not fulfil the conditions for being Ministers do ... (/nterruptions) .. I know Hindi, included in the drought prone area. The I have read it. criterion set for the purpose is the areas receiving 'ess that 750 millimeter rain and [English} having less than 20 per cent irrigated land, secondly, the areas receiving a rainfall be- I will briefly try to brjng to the notice of tween 750 and 1125 m.m. rainfall and having the Ministerthatthe Issue really is not whether less than 10 per cent irrigated land neither of X did it or '{ did n. The issue is that the the districts \ulm these criterion nor the exic;ting system. for either drought prone Government of Madhya Pradesh has SO'far 535 Ha/f-An-Hour MAY 14,1990 Droughtprone districts 536 Discussion in Bundelchand [Sh. Upendra Nath Verma) [English] recommended the names of these two dis- tricts for inclusion in the said programme. SHRI UPENDRA HATH VERMA: Ex- penditure and allotment for districts Chhatar- KUMARI UMA BHARATI: A part of it lies pur and T sekamgarh for drinking water supply in Uttar Pradesh as well, hen. Minister is as follol.Vs:- 537 Half-An-Hour VAISAKHA 24.1912 (SAKA) Droughtprone districts 538 Discussion in Bundelkhand Q) ~ > 0) .8co Q) - ..q c: O'l QI ~ ...... m ell -E co m ..c O'l ..... co .§ .8 (") cO cO - 6 C"') m .B Q) ,g c II) ..q ~ O'l N c: 0) O'l ~ Ul 'o:::t 0) :§. :~ '5 "0 c: .;£ "0 Q) =co (I) :;::- co Q. - ..c x ..:.c: ~ ..E Q) ~ ..!!! :§_ o N O'l 0> N 00en (\J O'l iii 3: ...Q :2 III III Q) m ...Cb .Q .9 ~ 8 ~ E ..c:: ~ 0 0 .g 0'> 0 111 C\J 2> N ~ ~ 0'> :::I .e 0'> ~ 01 ClO ~ 0) ~ - 541 Half-An-Hour VAISAKHA 24,1912 (SAKA) Droughtprone districts 542 Discussion in Bundelkhand [ Translation] SHRI PYARELAl KHANDElWAl: have a point of order. So far as Bundelkand is concerned. it is not an administrative unit either in Uttar SHRI DEPUTY SPEAKER: There Pradesh Pradesh or in Madhya Pradesh. should be no .point of order in it. The administrative unit of is the sagar divi- sion in Madhya Pradesh and Jhansi division SHRI PYARElAl KHANDElWAl: Mr in Uttar Pradesh But on the whole the culture point· of order is that the hon. Minister has thereof is akin to what of Bundelkhand as said that the Government of Madhya Pradesh stated by Kumari Uma Bharati. Thatthey are had made a demand for Rs. 38 crore but the analogues is true. I would like to inform the fact is that Rs. 80 crores were demanded. hon. Member that a national Committee for The Qhief Minister made this demand to the reviews of the drought prone area prog ramme Prime Minister. The hon. Minister should has been reconstituted. On the basis of the correct this information regarding the de- recommendation of this committee which of mand of Rs. 80 crores. course will be made in consultation with the State Government concerned the areas will SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA: I said be included in the programme. This commit- that there is still an amount of Rs. 37 crore in tee was set up in April, 1990 and Shri L.C. their relief fund which will be paid in four Jain, a member o~ the Planning commission instalments. With regard to the inclusion of is its Chairman. The committee has not these districts in the drought pron area submitted its report as yet. This committee programme as demanded by the hon. lady has just started touring. It has visited two Member. I have stated that this can be done State so far and will visit the rise of the states. only if the two districts fulfil the criteria set by We are awaiting the report of the committee. the committee constituted for this purpose Once the report is received aQ.d the State after its countrywise tour and the subse- Governments are consulted. the matter will quent consultation with the State Govern- be decided accordingly. ment. As regards drought. earlier the State KUMARI UMA BHARATI: Would the set Governments used to write to the Central criterion undergo any change after the report Government for help in case of drought or of the committee is received. Tikamgarh and any other natural calamity and thereafter Chhatarpur are experiencing less rainfall Central Government use to send study them continuously for the last three years. May be there to assess the Situation The funds were that there was an adequate rainfall for some allotted after the team returned with a clear year as per your figures for which these picture of situation prevailing in that area. districts could not be declared as drought But since April 1. 1190 we have changed this prone areas. But in view ofthe lack of rain fall system. We have created separate relief tor the last three years there these areas fund for very State. The State Governments should be declared as drought prone areas can approach the Central Government for now.(lnterruptions) additional funds in case they have exhausted th& funds already allotted for the purpose to SHRI UPENDRA NATH VERMA: With 1Q"'~ natural calamities. Rs. 37 crores are till regard to the construction of dam, I may add left in the relief fr..;nd there and they have to that this work does not fall in the purview of pa~' !t in four Instalments. No proposal for its may department. The Government--of India inclusion in the drought prone area pro- cannot declare an area as drought prone at gramme has come from the State Govern- its sweet will. This is decided as per the ment. This area will be included as drought criteria sel for the purpose. The inclusion of prone if it fulfils the criterion recommended these two districts can be worked our as per by the Committee constituted for the wholE! the criterion set by the country. Committee ... (Interruptions) J543 Half-An-Hour MAY 14, 1990 Droughtprone districts 544 Discussion in Bundelkhand MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, not as [English] yet. You may discuss it with the Minister The House now stands adjourned to re later. The Minister has stated that a commit assemble at 11 AM on Tuesday, the 15th of tee has been constituted to change the crite May, 1990. ricn. If I permit you, I will have to permit 19.05 hrs. others too and this will set a precedent. 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