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HUEY LEWIS an Oral History Interview Conducted by Debra Mill Valley Oral History Program A collaboration between the Mill Valley Historical Society and the Mill Valley Public Library HUEY LEWIS An Oral History Interview Conducted by Debra Schwartz in 2017 © 2017 by the Mill Valley Public Library TITLE: Oral History of Huey Lewis INTERVIEWER: Debra Schwartz DESCRIPTION: Transcript, 28 pages INTERVIEW DATE: October 15th, 2017 In this oral history, singer Huey Lewis recounts his life in Marin and his career in music. Born in Manhattan in 1950, Huey’s parents Hugh and Magda moved to Marin when he was five years old and the family settled in Strawberry Point. Huey evokes the distinctive character of Mill Valley in the 1950s and ’60s. With a musical father and a bohemian mother, Huey first started playing music at the age of 11. Huey attended Strawberry Point School and then Edna Maguire before going to a preparatory school on the East Coast, returning to Mill Valley for the summers. After a year bumming around Europe and North Africa and playing his harmonica, and then a few years at Cornell University, Huey moved back to Mill Valley and started his musical career. Huey recounts his years playing with the local group Clover during the 1970s and then the band that made him famous, Huey Lewis and the News (going on 38 years at the time this oral history was recorded). Huey shares his memories of the bands, clubs, and recording studios that existed during the heyday of Marin’s music scene as well as his reflections on how Mill Valley has changed over the decades. © All materials copyright Mill Valley Public Library. Transcript made available for research purposes only. All rights are reserved to the Mill Valley Library. Requests for permission to quote for publication should be addressed to the: Lucretia Little History Room Mill Valley Public Library 375 Throckmorton Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 ii Oral History of Huey Lewis Index 2am Club…p.11 Old Mill Tavern…p.1 Austin (son)…p.15 Opposite Six, The…p.16 Bay Area music revolution…p.25 Outdoor Art and Garden Club…p.4 Beat poets…p.8 Pat and Joe’s…p.2 Berry, Byron…p.4 Peet’s Coffee…19 Butch Engle & the Styx…p.16 Peppermill, The…p.2 Call, Alex…p.9 Pritzger, Robin…p.26 Champlin, Bill…p.16-17, 23, 25 Prune Music…p.12 Chord Lords…p.16 Radio…p.10 Ciambotti, John…p.9, 13 Recording studios…p.11 Cipollina, Mario…p.16 Redwoods, The…p.19 Clover…p.9, 12-13 Roberts, Billy…p.4 Cregg, Dr. Hugh (father)…p.3-4, 5, 6 Rock of Ages…p.19-20 Cregg, Magda (mother)…p.3, 6, 8, 19 Small World…p.13 Deal, Charlie…p.26-27 Sly & the Family Stone…p.25 Dory Collier and the Mill Billies…p.18 Strawberry Point Elementary Duke, George…p.16 School…p.6 Edna Maguire school…p.6 Sutton, Ralph…p.4 European travels…p.7 Sweetwater…p.1 Figeuroa, Eddie…p.4 Tamalpais High School machine Fleegof, Elmer…p.3 shop…p.6 Gibson, Bill…p.16 Throckmorton Theatre…p.12 Gillespie, Dizzy…p.8 Village Music…p.26 Goddard, John…p.26 Welch, Lew…p.8 Greenwood, Bob…p.16, 17 “While We’re Young”…p.20 Hereford Hartstringers…p.9 “Hey Joe”…p.4 “Hip to be Square”…p.22-23 Hopper, Sean…p.9 Howie, Mitch…p.9 Kelly (daughter)…p.15 Kimmel, Jimmy…p.15 Lawrenceville Preparatory School…p.6 MTV…p.10 Marin City…p.8 Marin County clubs…p.12 Marin Joe’s…p.3 McFee, John…p.9, 13 Mingus, Charles…p.8 Moitoza, Rob…p.16 Montana…p.21 Mountain Home…p.3 iii Oral History of Huey Lewis October 15th, 2017 Editor’s note: This transcript has been reviewed by Huey Lewis, who made minor corrections and clarifications to the original. 0:00:00 Debra Schwartz: Today is October 15th, 2017. My name is Debra Schwartz. I’m sitting here on behalf of the Mill Valley Historical Society and the Mill Valley Library. And I am pleased and honored to be sitting with one of Mill Valley’s musical sons, Huey Lewis. Huey, thanks so much for sitting down with me today. 0:00:20 Huey Lewis: Very nice to be here. 0:00:22 Debra Schwartz: You are quite well known in Mill Valley, certainly, and beyond. You are a musician, an actor — how do you see yourself? 0:00:39 Huey Lewis: Well, I don’t really. That’s your job. [chuckles] I just do what I do. I was a songwriter a little bit too, but all those things. Mainly, I’m a singer. 0:00:54 Debra Schwartz: A singer? You’re a singer. You’re a good singer too. 0:00:58 Huey Lewis: Mainly, I’m a singer. A harmonica player, too, but mainly I’m a singer. 0:01:02 Debra Schwartz: Well, you certainly embody a time in Mill Valley’s history, and as do many of your bandmates and the people that you’ve known over the years. And you’re here in town today to perform in Mill Valley tonight, correct? 0:01:20 Huey Lewis: Exactly. We’re gonna perform downtown Mill Valley at the Sweetwater, and I just realized this morning that the last time I performed downtown was 1977, approximately, at the Old Mill Tavern. So that’s how far I’ve come in 40 years. I’ve come from the Old Mill all the way down to the Sweetwater. 0:01:43 Debra Schwartz: Yeah. And that’s about less than a block. 0:01:46 Huey Lewis: No, that’s a good couple — that’s two blocks, I think. Well, yeah, a block and a half. 0:01:51 Debra Schwartz: You’ve gone a whole block and a half in all these years. 0:01:54 Huey Lewis: Pretty good. 0:01:54 Debra Schwartz: Congratulations. Right back to the start in some ways, because you grew up in Mill Valley, did you not? 1 0:02:01 Huey Lewis: Yeah. Well, I was actually born in Manhattan, but we moved to Marin in 1955. I was five years old. And we lived in Tam Valley for a minute. First of all, we lived in the hotel which is now the Peppermill — my family did — while we would shop for a house. 0:02:22 Debra Schwartz: In Corte Madera? 0:02:24 Huey Lewis: My dad rented a house in Tam Valley for about a year, and then we bought a house in Strawberry. And I grew up in Strawberry Point, which is in the Mill Valley School District. But it was not strictly in Mill Valley, it was across the freeway, across the 101, which then was a two-lane freeway. 0:02:44 Debra Schwartz: Yeah. So, in 1956? 0:02:47 Huey Lewis: Yep. 0:02:48 Debra Schwartz: There was some action going on in Mill Valley at the time. I interviewed Locke McCorkle who owned a house where Jack Kerouac and Gary Snyder and some of the Beat guys lived in Homestead. They had their life there. Tell me a little bit about what Mill Valley was like for you as a kid growing up, your impressions, if you can remember. 0:03:12 Huey Lewis: It was very blue-collar place. It was magnificent outdoor stuff. We fished and sailed and hunted. It was so close to the city, and yet it was just a paradise to grow up in Marin County, in Mill Valley. It was on fire, but it was a very blue-collar place. There were hardware stores, there were no boutiques, there were no coffee places. Pat and Joe’s was the only restaurant downtown Mill Valley, which would stay open all night. So later when we’d have gigs, that’s where everybody would meet after gigs. It was at Pat and Joe’s in Mill Valley. 0:04:01 Debra Schwartz: Where in Mill Valley? 0:04:02 Huey Lewis: It was where the bank is, right across from Lytton Square, right there, just the opposite parking lot from the Depot. 0:04:09 Debra Schwartz: Oh, contiguous right there? 0:04:11 Huey Lewis: Yeah, contiguous right there. That was Pat and Joe’s. It was a restaurant. Everybody’ll remember that. That was the place in downtown Mill Valley, Pat and Joe’s. 0:04:24 Debra Schwartz: Mill Valley has changed quite a bit over the years, no one can deny. 0:04:27 Huey Lewis: Unrecognizable. It’s absolutely unrecognizable. 2 0:04:29 Debra Schwartz: What was the population about when you were — 0:04:31 Huey Lewis: I have no idea, but there wasn’t very many people. But I have no idea. No idea. It was a completely different place. Imagine, I live in Montana now, and where I live in Montana has more in common with the Mill Valley I knew than modern Mill Valley. There was a big influx, of course, in the ’60s when there was Summer of Love. Remember “New Yorker go home,” and all that kind of stuff? Remember that? 0:05:06 Debra Schwartz: Yeah. 0:05:07 Huey Lewis: It was all that, and of course, who won? Well, boom. Now, today, there’s very few real local people around. A lot of people moved to Marin and Mill Valley in the ’60s even.
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