Maryland Institute for Emergency Medical Services Systems Communications System Upgrade

Solicitation# D53B7400005 Amendment #1 30, 2017

This Amendment #1 is issued to distribute documentation related to the referenced solicitation. Included in this Amendment are the following documents:

Document 1 – March 13, 2017 Pre-Proposal Meeting Sign-in Sheet Document 2 – March 13, 2017 Pre-Proposal Meeting Transcript The attached transcript incorporates a number of edits/comments from MIEMSS to improve the accuracy of the document utilizing features of Adobe Acrobat. The document is best reviewed on a computer as opposed to a printed copy. A hard copy will not allow you to view edits/comments accurately.

In addition, the following questions were received by MIEMSS:

Q1: Can the Sign-in Sheet from the 19, 2016 Pre-Proposal Conference for the first release of the EMS Communications Upgrade RFP be made available?

MIEMSS Response:

Answer: Yes. Attached is the Sign-in Sheet from the Pre-Proposal Conference for the first release of the MIEMSS Communications Upgrade RFP, Released 29, 2016, Project Number D53B7400001

Specification Change: None

Q2: Given the custom development nature of this project, coupled with the payment milestone structure as identified in Section 4.3 of Attachment A, we are requesting the State waive requirement 1.49 performance bond. We believe that the State’s interests are protected by the payment structure identified which allows payment only after reaching specified delivery milestones. Additionally, the cost of the bond, to be included in the overall price, adds unnecessary expense to the project and the State.”

MIEMSS Response:

Answer: The State does not waive the performance bond requirement.

Specification Change: None Q3: If InterTalk is a prime, and we have sub-contractors working with us, do the sub-contractors require a NDA with the State of Maryland before we can share information that we are in receipt of because we have a NDA with the State? Or is a NDA between us (InterTalk) and our sub-contractor sufficient?

MIEMSS Response:

Answer: ATTACHMENT P – Non-Disclosure Agreement (Offeror) has been modified in response to the above question. Bidders whom have already submitted a signed NDA resubmit using the new NDA if they desire. MIEMSS does not require resubmission.

Additionally, The underlined blank space in “information including, but not limited, to ______” has been replaced with “the documents contained in Volume III B - Appendices - Publish – 20170227.pdf file, the documents contained in Final Test Results-20161123 - Publish – 20170227.zip file, the EMRC Demo videos and any additional documents or files deemed confidential.

Specification Change: Updated “ATTACHMENT P – Non-Disclosure Agreement (Offeror)” is attached

Q4: During the evaluation process (for the submitted responses) does a Waiver for MBE or VSBE receive the same credit as an actual MBE or VBSE? I am thinking that there must be some sort of scoring scheme and waivers would score lower than an actual MBE or VSBE.

MIEMSS Response:

Answer: In Volume I we require that the necessary/required affidavits are present. From Volume I, “The first step in the process is a determination is made that the MDOT Certified MBE Utilization and Fair Solicitation Affidavit (Attachment D-1A) is included and is properly completed, if there is a MBE goal. In addition, a determination is made that the Veteran- Owned Small Business Enterprise (VSBE) Utilization Affidavit and Subcontractor Participation Schedule (Attachment M-1) is included and is properly completed, if there is a VSBE goal.”

There is no scoring adjustment based on meeting the MBE or requesting a waiver.

Specification Change: None

Document 1 – March 13, 2017 Pre-Proposal Meeting Sign-in Sheet

Document 2 – March 13, 2017 Pre-Proposal Meeting Transcript

In the Matter of:

MIEMSS Communications System Upgrade

March 13, 2017 Prebid Conference

Condensed Transcript with Word Index

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1 1 Brian Hackenberg, Skyline Technology Solutions 2 2 Vicky Youtz, Microwave Networks 3 3 David Bonney, ACG Systems 4 PREBID CONFERENCE 4 Bruce Bullock, SQN Systems 5 MIEMSS COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM UPGRADE 5 6 March 13, 2017 6 7 Maryland Institute for Emergency Medical Services System 7 8 653 West Pratt Street 8 9 Baltimore, Maryland 21201 9 10 10 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 14 15 15 16 16 17 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 22 23 23 24 24 25 25

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1 ATTENDANCE ON BEHALF OF MIEMSS: 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 Sherry Alban 2 - - - - - 3 E. Fremont Magee 3 (Commencing at 10:10 a.m.) 4 Richard Berg 4 MS. ALBAN: Good morning, everybody, and thank 5 Dave Balthis 5 you for joining us in advance of Snowmageddon here in 6 John DiDonato 6 Baltimore. I wanted to have this meeting tomorrow. 7 Chuck Rollman 7 Luckily Dave convinced me, no, let's do it Monday. 8 Robert Chamberlin 8 I will always listen to Dave from now on. I'm 9 ATTENDEES: 9 Sherry Alban. 10 Richard McClearn, Disys Solutions 10 MR. BALTHIS: Did you get that? 11 Greg Nolan, Nokia 11 MS. ALBAN: I'm the procurement officer on this 12 Bill Carter, Nokia 12 project. I'm also the finance director in this building, 13 Ron Zeberlane, Tessco 13 so if the lights go out, we'll just have to pull the 14 Bob Della-Croce, NEC 14 switch or something. 15 Larry Hicks, InterTalk Systems 15 Thank you again for being here. This project 16 Quentin Ellis, United States Tower Services 16 is something that is something that is near and dear to 17 James Ewing, Presidio 17 our hearts. And we've been spending much time and effort 18 Ricky Schumate, Presidio 18 in making sure that we get it right. And, hopefully, as 19 Steven Eng, Harris 19 a partner, you will help us get it right as well. 20 Dave Alonzi, Harris 20 So, I'm just going to -- go around. We're 21 Colette Youngblood, Versatile Business Solutions 21 going to have, according to this agenda, introductions. 22 Tom McDonald, Black & Veatch 22 Dave Balthis is going to give a project overview. Dave 23 Victor Ramage, Black & Veatch 23 is our chief of IT and communications. John DiDonato has 24 Paul Sertieri, Black & Veatch 24 DiDonato Consulting. John has worked very closely with 25 Andrew LaFollette, Commdex 25 us not only with this part of the project but also for

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5 7 1 the upgrade to the communications center upstairs. If 1 MS. YOUNGBLOOD: Colette Youngblood, Versatile 2 you want to stay around for a tour, we would love to show 2 Business Solutions. 3 you our pride and joy, which is a total upgrade of our 3 MR. MCDONALD: Tom McDonald, Black & Veatch. 4 communications center, Syscom EMRC. Rich Berg is our 4 MR. RAMAGE: Victor Ramage, Black & Veatch. 5 communications director. Rich will be providing you with 5 MR. SERTIERI: Paul Sertieri, Black & Veatch. 6 the current system details. And Chuck Rollman is the 6 MR. LAFOLLETTE: Andrew LaFollette, Commdex 7 deputy director of communications. 7 MR. HACKENBERG: Brian Hackenberg, Skyline 8 So, after that we will have a question and 8 Technology Solutions. 9 answer period, and then we'll give a tour. If anybody 9 MS. YOUTZ: Vicky Youtz, Microwave Networks. 10 signed an NDA and would like to get the confidential 10 MR. BONNEY: David Bonney with ACG Systems. 11 information on disc, I have them here. If you would like 11 MR. BULLOCK: Bruce Bullock with SQN Systems. 12 us to upload the confidential documents to an FTP site, 12 We're MBE and VSBE. 13 we can do that. And we can also put it on a thumb drive, 13 MS. ALBAN: Thank you everybody. 14 if you want that. 14 MR. BALTHIS: Thanks for coming out this 15 So, without further ado, I will have everybody 15 morning. We're excited to have you all here. We're 16 go around and introduce themselves, their company and 16 getting ready to -- well, actually, we're ready -- we're 17 starting with our project team table. Chuck, if you want 17 into the RFP to upgrade our EMS communication system. At 18 to start. And I also want to introduce Carol Vasques. 18 a high level it's an upgrade to the infrastructure that 19 She is from For The Record, and she is a wonderful 19 exists today. Our goal is get to a next gen system 20 reporter who takes down everything, even the stuttering. 20 that's IP-based, highly reliable, adding geo diversity 21 MR. ROLLMAN: Chuck Rollman, Director of 21 with it. 22 Maintenance for MIEMSS. 22 This has been going about five plus years now, 23 MR. BERG: Richard Berg, Director of 23 our effort. As Sherry mentioned a little while ago, back 24 Communications and Engineering Services, MIEMSS. 24 in May of 2015, we actually completed the upgrade to the 25 MR. MAGEE: Monty Magee, Assistant Attorney 25 communications center upstairs. That was originally

6 8 1 General. 1 supposed to occur at the end of the project, but we had 2 MS. ALBAN: Sherry Alban. 2 an opportunity to immigrate Maryland First technologies 3 MR. BALTHIS: Dave Balthis, Chief of IT and 3 into it, so we moved it upfront. 4 Communications and Contracting. 4 The EMRC and Syscom centers upstairs -- the 5 MR. DIDONATO: John DiDonato, DiDonato 5 Syscom component handles helicopter communications 6 Consulting. 6 statewide. The EMRC center, which is Emergency Medical 7 MR. MCCLEARN: Richard McClearn from Disys 7 Resource Center, handles provider-to-hospital 8 Solutions. 8 communications for the -- the centers upstairs are for 9 MR. NOLAN: I'm Greg Nolan, System Engineer 9 region three and region five. They handle about 80 10 with Nokia. 10 percent of the communications statewide. There are two 11 MR. CARTER: I'm Bill Carter, I'm with Nokia, 11 smaller centers, one on the Eastern Shore and one in 12 also. 12 Western Maryland to handle the rest of the 13 MR. ZEBERLANE: Good morning. Ron Zeberlane 13 communications. We're very proud of that update, as 14 with Tessco. 14 Sherry noted. 15 MR. DELLA-CROCE: Good morning. Bob Della- 15 So, we're looking to retain our current 16 Croce, NEC. 16 subscriber base in the analog system and we want 17 MR. HICKS: My name is Larry Hicks. I'm from 17 performance meeting or exceeding the existing system. 18 InterTalk Systems in Canada. I'm the VP of Engineering 18 That's always a goal. We don't want to backslide. 19 there. We do console systems. 19 There's a lot of neat technologies in place today, but 20 MR. ELLIS: Quentin Ellis, United States Tower 20 most of them are very old. 21 Services. 21 As Sherry mentioned, we have John DiDonato, who 22 MR. EWING: James Ewing, Presidio. 22 has been helping us. We have a small and very talented 23 MS. SHUMATE: Ricky Shumate, Presidio. 23 engineering staff in-house. Rich Berg is the leader of 24 MR. ENG: Steven Eng, Harris. 24 it. However, the scope of this project exceeds our 25 MR. ALONZI: Dave Alonzi, Harris. 25 staffs' capabilities to manage it. Which is why we're

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9 11 1 looking for a system integrator. That's also why we got 1 it's very old and it's -- it's getting more and more 2 John DiDonato consulting with us. He will be with us to 2 unlikely to be able to be maintained moving into the 3 the conclusion of the project. He will also be doing the 3 future. So, we need to replace that. 4 IV.He has been instrumental in putting this RFP 4 What our goal is here, and basically, we're 5 together. 5 doing much the same thing on the other network with the 6 We're eager for your input and your ideas. 6 Syscom low band channels where they go through the 7 We're trying to make this forward looking as possible. 7 consoles into the dispatch. But what I'm trying to get 8 The current system got us 20, 30 years, 30 plus years. 8 here is the project goals. And what -- what the bottom 9 We're hoping to get a system that can carry us probably 9 line goal is is that we have a network, statewide, of 10 not another 30 years, but carry us into the future. I 10 hundreds of high band or low band and -- and UHF radio 11 don't want to talk past the point. There is a lot of 11 stations. And they're all in good shape. We don't want 12 technical discussion that needs to occur. So, with that 12 to touch them. We want to leave them in place. But we 13 said, I'll turn it over to John. 13 need everything from there back to get upgraded and moved 14 MR. DIDONATO: Thanks, Dave. I'll put some 14 into the 21st century. 15 stuff on the screen here if we can get the technical side 15 So, we're looking at converting the analog 16 working. But the bottom line, as Dave mentioned is, is 16 input and output from those stations into an IP protocol, 17 that we've got two statewide radio systems. One is VHF 17 and then handling everything in the IP world from 18 low band for helicopter medivac communications. The 18 thereon. So, we need to be able to do our voice 19 dispatch for it it's called Syscom. And the dispatch for 19 communications over IP. We need to be able to do our -- 20 that is entirely up here, upstairs in our dispatch center 20 our voting over IP, which is a critical component of it. 21 here for statewide Syscom dispatch. 21 We've got all these, you know, systems out there, sub -- 22 The second system is UHF, based on the UHF med 22 subvoting groups. We need to move that voting capability 23 channels, and that's the EMRC system, and most -- and 23 into an IP voting. 24 there are three EMRC dispatch locations. Right now one 24 And we use it for transmitter steering, which 25 is upstairs, which handles two EMRC regions in Central 25 is to say when a given site gets selected as having the

10 12 1 Maryland. And there is one out west that handles the 1 best quality when the dispatcher answers, it's got to go 2 western region, and one in Talbot County that handles the 2 out to that same site. So, the IP controlling network 3 Eastern Shore. 3 has to be able to duplicate everything we're doing now in 4 Anyway, so, what basically happens -- this is 4 the old-fashioned analog world in -- in a digital 5 what we've got right now. And what's basically going on 5 environment. And then moving into the -- so, we've got 6 is on a statewide basis -- let me take one system at a 6 the conversion to IP at the radio site. We've got the IP 7 time. The EMRC, MIEMSS manages the dispatch operations 7 voting, the IP transmitter steering. Then we get into 8 for paramedics in the field on a statewide basis. And 8 the dispatch side, and we need a new integrated console 9 when a paramedic responds to an incident, the EMRC system 9 system that will support all this. And that system has 10 allows them to communicate with basically whoever they 10 to have very powerful, very user-friendly capabilities 11 need to communicate with to manage that incident. 11 for high volume cross connects for patching. It has to 12 They are connected directly to the hospital 12 be able to interface to SIP environment, like Cisco 13 emergency department. They are connected to specialists 13 CallManager Telephone System. It has to interface to the 14 as needed. And all of this is done with a combination of 14 radio voting system. 15 telephone and radio patches by the EMRC dispatcher. 15 All these different interfaces and so one -- 16 Right now that's handled with a combination of basically 16 each -- every operator position the system has to be able 17 three systems. We use a Motorola console for the radio 17 to handle a minimum of eight simultaneous conferences 18 communication. That gets us into the Maryland First 18 going on. And each conference has to have a minimum of 19 trunk systems and we also have tie-ins to the radios, the 19 eight simultaneous resources in it. And those resources 20 MIEMSS radio systems. 20 might be any combination one through eight of telephone 21 Then we have the Redcom switching network, 21 or radio. So, you know, two radios, six telephones, vice 22 which handles high power, high volume, very fast cross 22 versa, or whatever. And, so, we have a very high volume 23 connects between all our radio and telephone resources. 23 of possible places we might need to reach out to and 24 And it's -- it's a very powerful, very effective tool and 24 connect to and make that happen. 25 it does really exactly what we need it to do, except that 25 And right now, the way the old Redcom system

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13 15 1 works is incredibly user-friendly. There's very few, you 1 that has not? Because a lot of this stuff you'll need to 2 know, motions that it takes for a dispatcher to effect a 2 have the NDA to get copies of this documentation. 3 patch and to add or delete any resources from that batch. 3 This is just a concept of what I've been 4 We have a detailed spec about some examples of how few 4 talking about. The idea that, you know, a mobile radio 5 steps it takes to activate/deactivate a patch. We want 5 out in the field can hit multiple base stations and 6 to make sure that -- that those capabilities are met in 6 the -- the new IP interface device that -- that you offer 7 the new system. 7 will be doing the conversation from analog to IP, and 8 And I don't want folks to be worried about that 8 everything from thereon goes over the network back to 9 Motorola console sitting in the middle of this. We 9 dispatch. So, that's -- that's just a real sort of high 10 understand that moving forward, the Motorola console 10 level overview of what we're taking about here. And this 11 cannot support these functions. We see it as a -- as a 11 gives you a sense of how many base station sites we have 12 resource here, especially to get into the Maryland First 12 in the State. And there's a lot of -- there's a lot of 13 trunk system. It's not expected to be the center of the 13 network infrastructure in place, mostly over -- over 14 new integrated console patching system. 14 microwave. We call it the PSInet, Public Safety 15 There were a couple of other pictures I want to 15 Intranet, and it is supporting our current system. 16 show real quick. This is a key function that we need to 16 There are some concerns we have with its 17 make sure occurs in the new system. And put simply, we 17 current architecture in terms of generating latency, 18 want to make sure that the existing Motorola MCC console 18 especially when we get into some of the longer links for 19 is brought fully into the same headset microphone 19 an IP voting environment. We've included test data that 20 operation of the -- of the new consolidated integrated 20 we've run to -- to -- on a few sample links to give you a 21 console system that the selected contractor will provide. 21 sense of what we're looking at. But part of the system 22 We want to make sure that each operator has a headset and 22 integrator turnkey solution is going to have to include 23 is not interfering with each other from their audio, and 23 upgrades to the PSInet as necessary to support the 24 that everything they need is happening there. So, this 24 environment that you need to move into. 25 is just sort of a conceptual overview that's a reminder 25 So, if I were to recap what we're looking at in

14 16 1 of the critical nature of bringing this altogether at the 1 the big picture here, we're looking at analog to IP 2 user in a way that works for the user. And, again, we're 2 conversation, IP voting, IP transmitter steering, high- 3 emphasizing user-friendly. We don't want to lose these 3 powered integrated console with heavy duty patch 4 kind of functionalities that we have in the old -- in the 4 capabilities and interfaces to all radio and telephone 5 old systems. 5 resources. And we're looking at microwave and network 6 This guy here is an overview just to give you a 6 upgrades to make the system operate properly and within 7 heads up. These are the voting groups, as I mentioned 7 spec. 8 before, to give you a sense of how big the voting system 8 And as you've probably seen in the spec 9 is. So, in the Eastern region, which is, we call it one 9 document, we have it set up in a series of volumes where 10 and two, we've got -- we're showing the number of sites 10 Volume One provides background documentation and 11 and the channels that are among vote -- in -- in voting 11 instructions. Volume Two is a detailed point by point 12 groups. So, we've got four voting groups. The call one, 12 spreadsheet of functional requirements. And Volume 13 and then three, then six-A, and the 155 channel. So, 13 Three, Three-A and Three-B provide background 14 those are the voting groups in that region. 14 information. 15 And then there's 11 voting groups in region 15 The big difference between Volume One and 16 three. You know, six in region -- and so on. And this 16 Volume Two is Volume One is for all the offerors, 17 gives you a sense of how many base station sites are in 17 everybody in the room, to show you what it is we want, 18 each voting group and how many voting groups are in each 18 and what it is you're going to provide in your response 19 region as -- as we move across the state. And I just 19 to us in your proposal. Volume Two, the detailed specs 20 want to show that up there real quick to give you a sense 20 are the technical requirements that the contractor is 21 of scale for the system we're talking about here for 21 going to be held to during implementation. And then the 22 statewide communications. 22 Volume Three is background information that you'll need 23 This is very much a conceptual -- I guess I 23 in both phases of the operation. 24 should have asked before I started it, are we sure now 24 And at this point, I think I'd like to hand the 25 that everybody has signed the NDA, there's no company 25 floor to Rich to go over in a little more detail the

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17 19 1 current technologies in operation. 1 EMRC, they pick up on the phone. Very much like a hot 2 MR. BERG: Good morning. So, as John mentioned 2 phone, but basically what it's doing is dropping that 3 and Dave mentioned, our system goes back a ways. We 3 2600 hertz tone, our cards upstairs detect it's missing, 4 first constructed this back in late eighties, early 4 the Redcom gets signaled, and voila there it is on the 5 nineties. And all the technology that was developed 5 Redcom. We pick up, we break our 2600 hertz tone, and 6 basically goes back to there, except for the MCC7500, 6 the connection is complete. It happens very quickly. 7 that's a recent transition. We originally had a 7 And it is a 100 percent monitored circuit. 8 CENTRACOM Gold where that sits today. 8 We have deployed in many of the hospitals Cisco 9 The heart of the EMRC patching is a Redcom 9 7970 phones. Over the last ten years, we have developed 10 modular switching. It's been around for a long time. 10 certain network capabilities within the hospitals. Some 11 Very, very reliable switch. However, it's very long in 11 of the hospitals we have very robust connectivity to, 12 the tooth. So, that is one of our main focal points when 12 some we do not. And some hospitals we don't have any 13 we look at patching. Everything goes through the Redcom, 13 connectivity at all. So, there will be a chart in the 14 for the most part. There is some rudimentary patching in 14 requirements that shows what hospitals we have 15 our Siemens phone system. But it's usually used 15 connectivity to, what we deem is reliable, what we deem 16 administratively. It's not used for proving that all 16 is not reliable. 17 important hospital field provider communications. 17 We do run an all Cisco network. We run an 18 For our voters, they're JPS SNV 12s. We have 18 EIGRP, which used to be proprietary, on our network, but 19 added some features over the years. We have some remote 19 we're all Cisco. And that is not to change. 20 software control voter display that Robert wrote. The 20 Let's see, we are -- we have a statewide 21 software that drives our Redcom is not off-the-shelf. We 21 microwave system utilizing 6 gig and 11 gig microwave for 22 wrote it in-house years ago. It's quick and easy. It's 22 the most part. Our platform for run are the CM-series 23 easy to see what's going on. You see the hospital, 23 microwave networks. We also have Proteus M-series and 24 whether they're on call, being called, have picked up, 24 Proteus MX-series. All microwave networks at this point. 25 all those things, very quick and simple to do. And 25 That's the licensed side.

18 20 1 we're -- that's one of our main focal points that any 1 On the unlicensed side we have utilized Port.9, 2 patching system doesn't use predefined patches. The 2 typically RAD Airmux 200s to 400s. There's a mix of 3 field provider tells us what they want when they call. 3 something else that I'm drawing a blank at. What do we 4 We don't tell them what they get. So, it's very 4 have at World Trade? Airstream. So, we have some 5 important that we can respond rapidly to their request. 5 Airstreams. We also are running 2.4 gig. They're 6 So, the voter system, certainly a big 6 typically Cisco 1310s. We do not deem the 1310s or the 7 component, has our different UHF systems, and also low 7 Port.9 as reliable. Our experience shows that there's 8 band. We also have gateways into a large majority of the 8 too much interferences on it. So, as a backup to our 9 700 and 800 systems throughout the state and the county 9 primary path, they're okay. But as to it’s being a 10 systems, as well as the Maryland First system. So, we 10 primary path, not okay. 11 have patching capability that all feeds into the Redcom. 11 Let's see, just looking, seeing if I'm missing 12 The MCC7500 provides us native talk group 12 any major pieces. CallManager. So, we do have a 13 interface for MIEMSS administrative talk groups as well 13 CallManager today. It's outdated. It's version 6.1. 14 as talk we choose for the helicopter operations. Most 14 Part of the RFP is to bring us up to the latest version 15 of, if not all, of the EMRC communications really does 15 of that. Keeping in mind that we have integration with a 16 funnel through the Redcom. 16 NICE logging recorder. I don't recall the version of 17 What we have today in the hospitals, for the 17 that at the moment, but we're -- I think the latest 18 most part, for them to talk on is a Vega C-2000 tone 18 version. I'll have to check. I'm going to say it's 19 remote that has special MIEMSS software in it. That 19 seven, but I may be wrong. 20 software provides an SF functionality. Basically, when 20 So, we have all our IP phones are communicating 21 the phone is on the hook and when we don't need them, the 21 back with the CallManager 6.1. In the RFP we're looking 22 phone is sending 2600 hertz to us, we send 2600 hertz to 22 to diversity a little bit geographically. So, you'll see 23 them. If there's a break in that circuit we know it 23 that in there. Our NICE logging recorder has some 24 because it shows up as a ring, or false ring as we call 24 integration into that CallManager. With the NICE logger, 25 it a lot of times. If a hospital wants to contact the 25 we're doing analog recording. We have full redundancy on

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21 23 1 the analog side. We're doing targeted IP where we can 1 continues through our multiplexer, and then feeding 2 tell it what extensions we want to record, and which ones 2 whatever gateway device is proposed for the network side. 3 to exclude. We're also doing screen capture. And we're 3 One of the things to keep in mind, we have a 4 looking to continue all those functionalities using the 4 parallel operation requirement. It needs to be fully 5 NICE product. There is an optional component, I believe, 5 operational old system and new system for a period of 6 still in the RFP for a NICE logger in Talbot County and 6 time. And that's done regionally. 7 also in Allegany for our two regional EMRCs out there. 7 So, that's just kind of conceptual, but we want 8 Let's see. I'm just looking to see if I'm 8 to do it on the 600 -- four-wire side. And that means 9 missing anything here. The UHF base stations, they are 9 that your IP gateway has to be able to handle looking at 10 all GE MASTR IIIs. Whatever interface or whoever vendor 10 our voting tone. 11 is selected, there's no modification to those base 11 As I mentioned routers, we use all Cisco. 12 stations. They have to stay the way they are. So, we 12 Currently within our system we have 3745s, 3845s. 13 give a conceptual -- and I don't know if that's in this 13 Although the 3745s were a special function, really 14 document or not -- a conceptual drawing how we kind of 14 they're not main back hall. 3845s, 3945s, 3825s, 3925s, 15 see the interface would be to those base stations, down 15 4451s is what we've been deploying recently. We did have 16 on the 600 ohm input level. Keeping in mind that we do 16 some 7200s, but we've kind of sidelined those. We also 17 use voting tone, a 1950 hertz. 17 are using a variety of Cisco switches, a 2940 series, 18 The low band base stations there, they're a 18 2960, ME-3400s, ME-2400s. We have 3560s, 3560-Es, 19 range of different products. We have a few Midlands. We 19 probably a mix of a few others that aren't coming into my 20 have some MASTR IIs, GE MASTR IIs. I think that's all, 20 mind right now. 21 just the Midlands and MASTR IIs. 21 So, across that microwave network that I 22 Any questions so far? 22 mentioned, which goes from Ocean City all the way out to 23 MR. CHAMBERLIN: Because I walked in late, you 23 Garrett County and many parts in between, we have an IP 24 did state that we're not doing simulcast in this network. 24 network called PSInet, Public Safety Interoperability 25 MR. BERG: No, I did not. But that's a very 25 Network. On each one of the microwave hubs, we have a

22 24 1 good point. We are not simulcasting the UHF. They also 1 minimum of six megs of bandwidth, four bundled T1s. In 2 do not repeat. UHF does not repeat. They are duplex. 2 many cases we can increase that. It's just a matter of 3 We'll duplex both on the RF side as well as on the 3 increasing interfaces into the microwave or into the 4 control line side. 4 router from the microwave. But that's kind of our 5 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Low band and UHF? 5 standard six megs across every hop. So, if we have a 6 MR. BERG: The low band is not full duplex, 6 terra site where there is four hops coming in, there will 7 that's simplex on the RF side. 7 be 16 T1s feeding into the router. 8 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Special software in the 8 There are a few places where we have some 9 voters. 9 fiber, not many. And fiber tends to not be available to 10 MR. BERG: So, the voter actually has off-the- 10 us. But we do have a few segments of it. A couple in 11 shelf software of -- I think it's version 3.08 that JPS 11 Western Maryland, one on the Eastern Shore. So, we 12 developed. They have moved on beyond there. There is a 12 really see that this will be mainly microwave based. 13 feature that they have discontinued, which we're not 13 Within the RFP if a vendor has determined that 14 utilizing anymore. That was a data voted lock -- voting 14 a microwave hop needs to be replaced in order to support 15 lock, which really was telemetry. 15 the necessary bandwidth, that is a possibility. The 16 MR. DIDONATO: Page 14 might give a picture. 16 microwave must support 28 T1s at a minimum. And the 17 MR. BERG: So, this basically is just an 17 reason being is any microwave that we have, we have other 18 example. So, just a representation of our microwave 18 customers on that, and we have to be able to continue to 19 system. I didn't mention this, but we do run T1-based 19 support them on a T1 basis. If it's a connection that -- 20 microwave. Some of the later products do have the 20 well, I won't go there. Never mind. 21 ability for Ethernet. So, we'll use a Harris Intraplex 21 Any questions? 22 Channel Bank typically, Cisco router, different versions. 22 MR. HICKS: Hello there. Can I ask a series of 23 I'll get to that in a second. But basically what this 23 questions? Is this the right time for questions? 24 diagram is showing is how we envision taking the base 24 MR. BERG: Now is a good time because I ran out 25 station, feeding into a bridge so our regular operation 25 of things to say.

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25 27 1 MS. ALBAN: If you don't mind, would you just 1 MR. BERG: But go ahead, John. 2 state your name and the company that you're with before 2 MR. DIDONATO: I would note that we -- I think 3 your questions? Thanks. 3 we've already said it here somewhere that if there are 4 MR. HICKS: Okay. My name is Larry Hicks and I 4 configuration changes needed to the Maryland First 5 represent InterTalk Systems. We're a console 5 system, MIEMSS will take flight in coordinating with them 6 manufacturer. 6 and the contractor would have to support our efforts 7 With regards to the MASTR III stations that you 7 doing that. 8 have at the sites, and you say there is no picking with 8 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I have a question on your -- 9them. 9 your question, and that was regarding packet inspection. 10 MR. BERG: Right. 10 Are you referring to possibly mirrored -- mirroring? 11 MR. HICKS: They currently have an -- provider 11 MR. BERG: That's correct. 12 of any sort? 12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Okay. That's what I thought. 13 MR. BERG: They may have it. I don't know if 13 Because we use CIP and -- 14 the MASTR-III -- 14 MR. BERG: Yes. We tried mirroring, it did not 15 MR. HICKS: Are there like limited current? 15 work well for us. 16 Would be five, or is there at RS32, but I'm not sure if 16 MR. HICKS: I'm glad to hear that. That's 17 the MASTR-III is an -- option? 17 good. If I might ask -- as well. On the current MCC7500 18 MR. BERG: I haven't really delved into that. 18 system, I was just wondering if you could confirm what I 19 I don't honestly know. But we're really looking at doing 19 thought I read in the spec. You -- you have a mechanism 20 this on the VF level. 20 for actually using, essentially, overbank in the -- in a 21 MR. HICKS: In the NICE recorder that you were 21 central processor too, with -- essentially with four 22 talking about, you said that you're recording -- did I 22 wire? Is that where you're actually able to go into the 23 hear correctly that you're recording analog? 23 Maryland First system currently? 24 MR. BERG: We are recording analog. 24 MR. BERG: So, basically for the Maryland First 25 MR. HICKS: Is the NICE recorder does it have a 25 interface for the medical talk groups, we have a stripped

26 28 1 capacity for packet inspection-type IP recording? 1 down MCC7500 position on a permit -- permit talk group. 2 MR. BERG: I don't know if it's doing packet 2 Right? And it's got a tone remote adapter sitting in 3 inspection. I don't quite know why -- well, it can pull 3 front of it. So, our -- from our perspective, that 4 certain things out of the packet, I can tell you that. 4 system looks like a base station, and that's how that 5 Time stamps and all that are in there. Extension 5 works. 6 information is in there. 6 MR. HICKS: But we don't have to worry, for 7 MR. HICKS: Yeah, that's what I was interested 7 instance, about sending different function tones or 8 in. Like are you recording any kind of PPT IB on the -- 8 anything like that? 9 on the radio side? 9 MR. BERG: It's all F-1 keying for each one of 10 MR. BERG: We are not currently doing that. 10 those. 11 MR. HICKS: Okay. And is that something that 11 MR. HICKS: And how many of those are there? 12 you plan to move towards? 12 How many different groups? 13 MR. BERG: We would not turn it down. 13 MR. BERG: So, I'd have to refer to the chart. 14 MR. HICKS: You were mentioning the Maryland 14 I think we have three on the Eastern Shore, three in 15 First system -- system. Can you tell me is that P25 15 Western Maryland, I'd say it's four for the central, four 16 currently? 16 region three, and four for region five, if I'm 17 MR. BERG: That is P25, phase two. 17 remembering correctly. And then there's a couple air-to- 18 MR. HICKS: Is there any appetite for CSSI 18 ground frequencies, which I hadn't mentioned; 7AIR60 and 19 connections to that? 19 7AIT67. So, those also have that same pseudo-operator 20 MR. BERG: Certainly we've -- we would 20 position. 21 entertain any proposal you want to make. I will say that 21 MR. HICKS: A dozen, roughly. A dozen -- 22 will require configuration on their side as well as our 22 MR. BERG: If you say so. I wouldn't count -- 23 side. And I can tell you they're -- well, we would 23 MR. HICKS: Okay. And the-- 24 entertain it. 24 MR. BERG: But that's all in that chart. 25 MR. HICKS: And suppose the -- 25 MR. HICKS: Is there currently any geographical

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29 31 1 redundancies going on out there? 1 a selected period of time, or select it indefinitely if 2 MR. BERG: In the MC -- in the Motorola system 2we want. 3 or the -- 3 MR. HICKS: And do have that at the operator or 4 MR. HICKS: Yeah, do you have any double TVs or 4 is it on the -- 5 anything like that? Do you have any mechanism that if 5 MR. BERG: So, for the call channels that they 6 you lost the center here that you'd be able to talk to 6 listen to, that's presented on the MCC7500. So, you have 7 the Maryland First? 7 the ability to select disable, show fail, show voted. 8 MR. BERG: Currently, we do not have another 8 MR. HICKS: I do have one other question, that 9 center. We do sit off their main microwave ring. This 9 answer reminded me. In the drawing you showed for 10 building is part of their region one-A microwave ring. 10 sharing the headset entities between the MCC7500 and the 11 So, we're tied to the core fairly strong. Certainly we 11 new system, did I understand it correctly that you want 12 entertain all ideas. 12 to have it so that it's totally automated? So that if 13 MR. HICKS: Okay. I have one other question, 13 you go select on this side, for instance, a new console 14 if I may. You were talking about transmitter steering. 14 system, it will steer the select audio from the earpiece, 15 The transmitter steering, is it only on the UHF side? 15 am I right? 16 MR. BERG: No. It's also on the low band side. 16 MR. BERG: That is correct. 17 And it's intelligent transmitter steering. So, it's not 17 MR. HICKS: Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but 18 just, you know, last squelch close and that's the site. 18 on the MCC7500, do they use a radio button separation so 19 Yeah, it's -- 19 that it's always a select channel? Or do they have a 20 MR. HICKS: So, for our system we use an 20 method now to actually isolate call channels? 21 internal voter, and we have an internal transmitter that 21 MR. BERG: So, within the MCC7500, you can 22 fairly -- the transmitter circuit module has a number of 22 select a channel, that pops in your headset. Right? If 23 different algorithms. So, if you look at, for instance, 23 you hit just the main transmit that's what you're going 24 keel patterns. So, you would look not only at which site 24 out on. You can do multi-select where you can multiply 25 voted and which side -- squelched to make the transmitter 25 select them. I don't know if that answered your

30 32 1 turn into position. You can also look at different types 1 question. 2 of history, either as a sliding, or you can also look at 2 MR. HICKS: No. So, really what I'm interested 3 a history of votes over time. 3 in the -- process. In our console system you can 4 In this area, the areas that we used in voting, 4 actually have a select and you can actually do radio by 5 as in the west where there mountains and so on, do you -- 5 selection, like this select, all select, the original 6 do you have very much kind of weird stuff happening in 6 select and move it, or you can end up all unselected. 7 the transmission -- 7 So, in order to automate it it would be useful if the 8 MR. BERG: So, certainly we have all kinds of 8 MCC7500 had some mechanism to tell the steering mechanism 9 geography within the state, from flatland to mountains. 9 to the headset, you know, to the headset that it had 10 So, there are certainly those times where somebody on one 10 selected. 11 side of the mountain has transitioned across the mountain 11 But if you use the standard -- method, which 12 while still in conversation. So, those things do come 12 means you have one channel selected at all times, you can 13 into play. For the most part, the JPS performs rather 13 actually choose to unselect all the channels. There's 14 admirably. 14 always some selected audio in the earpiece. So, what 15 MR. HICKS: Have you actually tried using the 15 would be the mechanism that you would use to automate the 16 JPS over an IPM? 16 selection of the headset selection? 17 MR. BERG: We have not done it over IPM. The 17 MR. BERG: Our perspective of the automated 18 only thing we've done from a network perspective is 18 selection is really from a transmit perspective. So that 19 remote -- 19 if they transmit off of here, the mic is routed to that 20 MR. HICKS: Okay. Thank you very much. 20 console. If they transmit off the new console it's 21 MR. BERG: I have a thought on the same line, 21 routed there. We don't want them to sit there with any 22 and it just went right past me. I was talking about 22 kind of toggle switch going back and forth. 23 transmitter steering. Yes, we definitely don't want a 23 MR. HICKS: No, I understood that. 24 simplistic transmitter steering. We also have the 24 MR. BERG: We also don't use boom mics. No 25 ability to override. We can, you know, disable sites for 25 boom mics allowed. And that's in region 3 and region 5.

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33 35 1 I believe in the requirements we do ask about boom mics, 1 MR. BERG: Yes, a blazing 300 baud, E-7-1. 2 so don't be confused about that. But that's for our two 2 It's fast. 3 other regions, region 1 and region 4, because they're 3 MR. RAMAGE: Victor Ramage of Black & Veatch. 4 partners with us and we may put boom mics there. That's 4 Question on the preliminary spec. Since there is a lot 5 yet to be worked out with them. 5 of use of existing microwave shared, I assume shared 6 MR. DIDONATO: Those two dispatchers actually 6 microwave in the counties and -- 7 sit in their respective county 911 system center in 7 MR. BERG: We do share. 8 Allegany and Talbot County. So, it's a little different 8 MR. RAMAGE: Right. 9 operation rules. 9 MR. BERG: Yes. 10 MR. HICKS: Okay. Thank you, sir. 10 MR. RAMAGE: So, is there a preliminary spec of 11 MR. BERG: All right. Anybody else? All 11 the links, you know, the latency or the jitter? Is there 12 quiet. Scary. Is the tour next? 12 -- there -- can you expand on how you anticipate 13 MR. DIDONATO: I want to repeat something Rich 13 responsibility for sharing -- an integrator would come in 14 said just for emphasis, and that is the transition. The 14 and measure these -- everybody's lease, and take 15 transition is going to be really critical, and to make 15 responsibility for the -- 16 sure that it goes smoothly, we're going to do a region- 16 MR. BERG: John, did you want to go with that 17 by-region transition, where you'll set up one region, 17 one? 18 demonstrate that it's working, while we're still using 18 MR. DIDONATO: Sure. We did do a series of 19 the old analog system. And then after it's passed its 19 tests on sample revs across the state, and we provide the 20 appropriate tests, we'll transition that region onto the 20 detailed results of that along with the architecture of 21 new IP-based operations. Therefore, both systems are 21 the links that were tested so that you can look at that 22 going to have to be operating concurrently. That's a 22 and from that extrapolate to the rest of the state what's 23 critical part of it. And keep in mind when you think 23 going on. And we have some basic specs. I think we said 24 about those regions, one of those -- one of those, the 24 100-millisecond lead sync, yeah, if I recall correctly. 25 Syscom is a statewide set of channels. Okay. And that's 25 The bottom line is is that whatever -- whatever

34 36 1 all I just wanted to add. 1 the technology implements, you have to be sure that the 2 MR. BERG: There is one thing I just want to 2 lead sync provided does not exceed your technology's 3 reiterate. The patching function is really crucial to 3 capabilities so that your system can appropriately do 4 our EMRC operations. It's quick and easy. And when we 4 voting and transmitter steering in the environment that 5 go upstairs for those who want to take a look, we can 5 is implemented now. Does that answer the question? 6 show you the current interface, that it's quick and easy. 6 MR. BERG: And I'd like to point out, we have a 7 And that typically the field provider, by the time 7 highly routed network. There are routers at most sites, 8 they've switched off the call channel to the med channel 8 not all but most. So, they're transitioning in/out. 9 that's been assigned, the patch is set up. So, you can 9 It's not like a, you know, a flat network. It's not that 10 imagine it's only a couple clicks on the radio, it's got 10 way. 11 to be quick and easy. 11 And since we did those testing results, we 12 MR. BALTHIS: There are two videos we've 12 actually have done -- and we continue to do a lot of 13 included. And that's the intent of the display to be 13 changes in our network. We acquired a microwave system 14 recorded in real time action. As quick as you see it on 14 on the Eastern Shore that we've added into the mix. We 15 that display is as quick as it occurs. We need to 15 upgraded a lot of the 3845s and 4451s that were on the 16 maintain that. 16 Eastern Shore. It's in a continual process of upgrade 17 MR. HICKS: Is the -- the director, I'm 17 and change. And some of it's driven because we're driven 18 assuming, is the MSP, right? 18 by our partners. There are a lot of tower sites that are 19 MR. BALTHIS: Say that again? 19 in, you know, being operated -- Calvert County, Wicomico 20 MR. HICKS: Is it the MSP, right here in -- 20 as part of their radio system upgrade, so that drives our 21 MR. BERG: Yeah, it's the MSP. And we wrote -- 21 network changes. 22 MR. HICKS: Is it -- 22 MR. NOLAN: In your back hall -- any -- any -- 23 MR. BERG: -- special software for it. 23 do you guys see any constraints on bandwidth requirements 24 MR. HICKS: Is it -- is it controlled through 24 today? Or are you pretty -- pretty well set. 25 the server port? 25 MR. BERG: Well, we certainly have constraints

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37 39 1 by the FCC license. 1 existing antenna system to its fullest. 2 MR. NOLAN: Right. 2 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I get you. 3 MR. BERG: Most of our paths are 10 meg paths, 3 MR. BERG: There are many options. With the CM 4 typically in a 28-T1 format. Now, certainly we have some 4 series there is actually an extra port that you can tap 5 30 meg paths out there. 5 into, and I've done that successfully, depending on if 6 MR. NOLAN: Right. 6 you're going, you know, ours are typically high six. You 7 MR. BERG: We have a couple OC-3 strings that 7 can feed low six in typically without any issue. It's 8 we have. But certainly bandwidth is a limiting factor. 8 just really a strategy to keep the costs down. Any time 9 And we have other users of our system that we need to 9 you touch a tower it's going to be load study and tower 10 support. 10 mapping, foundation potentially, structural mediation, 11 MR. NOLAN: Sorry. I'm Greg Nolan with Nokia. 11 all that kind of plays in and, of course, drives the cost 12 Sorry. 12 up. 13 MR. BERG: Yes, I mean, it's always a 13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Did you folks list the types 14 consideration. We certainly would entertain, you know, 14 of antennas for each location? 15 upgrading a series of microwave paths. We certainly -- I 15 MR. BERG: For the microwave or -- 16 don't think we can upgrade everything. 16 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yeah. 17 MR. NOLAN: Right. Right. Yeah, there's a lot 17 MR. BERG: No, we did not list that in the 18 of paths. 18 document. I don't have it all in one place. I can 19 MR. BERG: It's a fair amount. 19 certainly get the original patent data sheets. Yes. 20 MR. DIDONATO: But I would add that if there 20 MR. HICKS: Would there be any consideration of 21 are configuration changes aggregation or something that 21 breaking the contract up so that the console part and the 22 you would recommend to better manage our latency, you 22 microwave part were separate? 23 know, performance, we're open to those kind of ideas. 23 MR. BERG: No. We're looking for turnkey 24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Today there is no IP 24 solution. And that's why we're, you know, looking for a 25 infrastructure in the back hall today. It's all TDM. 25 system integrator-type of organization who can bring all

38 40 1 It's converted somehow. 1 the required skill sets to the table and present it to us 2 MR. BERG: It's TDM. Like I said, there is a 2 as one. 3 few that are T1-base and ethernet, but they are few and 3 MR. DIDONATO: We see it as a very much 4 far between, and they are typically going to be broken up 4 interrelated set of problems in terms of the -- the 5 with T1-base. 5 throughput and specifications of the microwave back hall 6 MR. MCDONALD: I have a question. Are you 6 versus the ability and requirements of the IP conversion 7 looking for a reduction modulation on the microwave? Tom 7 equipment that's running on that, versus how it all gets 8 McDonald, Black & Veatch. 8 integrated and user end tool consoles make it in a user- 9 MR. CHAMBERLIN: Probably not because the FCC 9 friendly environment. It's just a -- 10 is down on that, and the public safety microwave pool. 10 MR. CHAMBERLIN: Want to throw it to -- 11 So, we're pretty much stuck with what -- how we compose 11 MR. BERG: One thing to keep in mind, the 12 the link to have the ability to be -- does that answer 12 towers across the state are state assets or county assets 13 the question? 13 in many cases. And, so, any changes that we would do to 14 MR. MCDONALD: Yes. 14 a tower would have to go through the SIEC technical 15 Mr. BERG: And we are looking for public safety 15 committee for review. But we'd also have to deal with 16 grade 59s I believe is what we call out on the spec. It 16 the particular tower owner. So, while something may be 17 also is our goal that any microwave changes, if possible 17 technically feasible, there's that permission side of the 18 not add antenna systems to the current towers, which 18 equation also. 19 would, of course, drive up costs if we did. I mean, 19 MR. RAMAGE: So, given that the paths and the 20 certainly there may be cases where that's the only 20 routes on the microwave are existing as a -- but my 21 option. But then structural loading, remediation -- 21 understanding is so you have perhaps some existing test 22 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I’m sorry. What was that? 22 measurements, at least partial. There is a lot of 23 What was that again? Could you -- 23 assumptions that we -- that we guarantee the performance. 24 MR. BERG: It would be our -- if we were 24 So, if you're going to take a number and meet those 25 replacing a microwave system, it is our goal to use the 25 inspection -- but the existing networks already would use

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41 43 1 up that margin -- what I'm trying to get to is how do you 1 MR. DIDONATO: Well, 3-B. I don't remember -- 2 know if any one particular route can have -- that has 2 I don't remember what -- 3-B is the set of appendices. I 3 eight by eight region to know -- because without that 3 don't remember which one is that particular chart. 4 knowledge -- coming up with that guarantee for the 4 MR. ENG: And as a aggregate of four TIs right 5 various equipment over the years -- you know, that's 5 now for those that -- 6 coupled along with the totally unique solutions -- 6 MR. BERG:: Minimum -- 7 showing the concept these are some of the ways of 7 MR. ENG: Minimum, so some are a higher 8 approaching the problem -- there's little -- to work that 8 bandwidth. 9 out -- 9 MR. BERG: Some are higher. And in many places 10 COURT REPORTER: Please keep your voice up. 10 we put aggregation, we're looking at aggregation points 11 MR. RAMAGE: Okay. It's as good as I can get 11 where we're bypassing so we don't have to flow through, 12 it. So, what I’m trying to get to is to what guidance 12 you know, ten routers to get here. We actually are 13 can the state provide for how to set the minimum 13 bypassing large sections. 14 requirements existing system that's already used? Like I 14 MR. ENG: And which is -- 15 said, we have to maintain a guarantee of stuff that's 15 MR. DIDONATO: Appendix R, I'm sorry. 16 really not measuring the total -- of existing equipment, 16 MR. ENG: And, I'm sorry, it's kind of a 17 absent the things that we come in and change. 17 chained question, I apologize. And what's the current 18 MR. DIDONATO: Are you asking what the ability 18 utilization of that bandwidth? 19 of the bandwidth is on a given link? 19 MR. BERG: So, currently it's in support of 20 MR. RAMAGE: No, what -- what we need to know 20 our DEM cell phones. It is in support of the C-Mark 21 the jitter -- the jitter and the latency tests because 21 radio system. The -- radio system interoperability, and 22 these routes are -- and they can't go through routers or 22 Wagon. In certain locations, we have a couple chart 23 not. So, it's a very long route with a lot of 23 cameras that were back-hauling from one point to another, 24 equipment and a lot of switching and yet you have a 24 so, a few odds and end type projects that are on it. 25 latency spec in -- 25 We do use a five-level QOS currently with voice

42 44 1 MR. DIDONATO: Well, and that's where we -- 1 having the highest priority and the greatest bandwidth, 2 MR. RAMAGE: -- where the existing equipment in 2 and then I think it's voice control after that, and then 3 that route. 3 I'm drawing a blank. 4 MR. DIDONATO: And that's where did those -- 4 MR. CHAMBERLIN: Management. 5 those tests over some long routes so that you can see 5 MR. BERG: Management is next, and then we go 6 from that what the kind of impact is of the different 6 to I think data and then miscellaneous. 7 equipment you're going through and you have to 7 MR. CHAMBERLIN: And video is at the bottom. 8 extrapolate from there because the, you know, we 8 MR. BERG: Yeah, anything video drops into the 9 didn't -- the time and effort to test every conceivable 9 last bucket. 10 route, you know, is impractical. 10 AUDIENCE MEMBER: So, voice is one and -- and 11 MR. RAMAGE: But you need the performance 11 video is five? 12 guarantee on that route? 12 MR. BERG: That is correct. Voice and voice 13 MR. DIDONATO: In the ultimate configuration, 13 control have the highest. 14 yeah. We need it to work. 14 MR. HICKS: When we go on tour of the 15 MR. ENG: Steven Eng, Harris. On the PSInet I 15 communication center, is it okay to take pictures? 16 may have been a little confused. I thought you said 16 MR. BALTHIS: The last time we said no, and we 17 PSInet was at every tower. 17 said we will provide custom pictures if there's 18 MR. BERG: It is not at every tower in the fact 18 something -- 19 that we don't have a router switch at every tower. There 19 MR. CARTER: This is Bill Carter with Nokia. 20 is a chart provided, I believe, if I recall, that has the 20 What's -- can you remind us of the time table that you 21 locations that we have. 21 kind of wanted to kind of phase these in and have a pilot 22 MR. DIDONATO: And it's through the 3-B -- I 22 region. But what's your aggregate timetable for how 23 believe it has very detailed equipment charts. 23 you'd like to see this project completed? 24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: John, what was that? Three 24 MR. BERG: I'm going to let Dave answer that. 25 what? 25 MR. BALTHIS: Yeah, so, we have this project

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45 47 1 carrying out into the beginning of 2019. That's our 1 CERTIFICATE OF COURT REPORTER 2 guesstimate for the final implementation. I don't think 2 3 we, in the RFP, spelled out a specific timeline for 3 I, Carol Vasques, do hereby certify that the 4 regions. But we do break the RFP out into regional 4 foregoing transcription was reduced to typewriting via 5 implementations. So, figure sometime 2019. And that 5 digital recording provided by me; that I am neither 6 assumes the RFP moves through in the timeline we have it. 6 counsel for nor, related to, nor employed by any of the 7 Any extensions for response windows will push the time 7 parties to the action in which these proceedings were 8 limit. 8 transcribed; that I am not a relative or employee of any 9 MR. CARTER: And then obviously the glaring 9 attorney or counsel employed by the parties hereto, nor 10 question for all of us sitting on this side of the 10 financially or otherwise interested in the outcome of the 11 microphones is around funding and funding sources 11 action. 12 carrying a multi-year project like this. You've got 12 13 allocated funding. Obviously, you're waiting to get 13 14 responses from all of us in terms of our projections for 14 15 costs. How have you allocated costs internally to fund 15 16 this initiative, and is there any risk to that from your 16 CAROL VASQUES, COURT REPORTER 17 perspective? 17 18 MS. ALBAN: We have funding. It's finite. 18 19 MR. CARTER: Right. We assume that. 19 20 MS. ALBAN: I just want to make that clear to 20 21 everybody. And we hopefully have provided for out years. 21 22 However, you know, this state is in a position to be able 22 23 to cancel it at any time based on micro funding. 23 24 MR. CARTER: Right. 24 25 MS. ALBAN: So, we have funding. 25

46 1 MR. CARTER: Thank you. 2 MS. ALBAN: Any further questions? We'd like 3 to take whoever is interested on a tour. It's up on the 4 fifth floor. 5 (Meeting ended at 11:20 a.m.) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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Question 1 – Sign-in Sheet from the September 19, 2016 Pre-Proposal Conference

Question 3 – Revised Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) dated March 29, 2017 Maryland Institute for Emergency Medical Services Systems Communications System Upgrade

ATTACHMENT P – Non-Disclosure Agreement (Offeror)

If required (see Section 1.37), this Attachment is to be completed and submitted prior to viewing any documentation set aside in a reading room in advance of the RFP due date.

This Non-Disclosure Agreement (the “Agreement”) is made this ___ day of ______2017, by and between ______(hereinafter referred to as "the OFFEROR ") and the State of Maryland (hereinafter referred to as "the State"). OFFEROR warrants and represents that it intends to submit a Technical Proposal in response to Project Number D53B7400005 for MIEMSS Communications System Upgrade. In order for the OFFEROR to submit a Technical Proposal (the “Purpose”) , it will be necessary for the State to provide the OFFEROR with access to certain confidential information including, but not limited to, the documents contained in Volume III B - Appendices - Publish – 20170227.pdf file, the documents contained in Final Test Results- 20161123 - Publish – 20170227.zip file, the EMRC Demo videos and any additional documents or files deemed confidential. All such information provided by the State shall be considered Confidential Information regardless of the form, format, or media upon which or in which such information is contained or provided, regardless of whether it is oral, written, electronic, or any other form, and regardless of whether the information is marked as “Confidential Information”. As a condition for its receipt and access to the Confidential Information described above, the OFFEROR agrees as follows:

1. OFFEROR will not copy, disclose, publish, release, transfer, disseminate or use for any purpose in any form any Confidential Information received, except in connection with the preparation of its Technical Proposal.

2. OFFEROR shall hold the Confidential Information in confidence and shall not disclose it to any third party, except as expressly provided herein. OFFEROR may disclose the Information to its employees having both a need to know to accomplish the Purpose and an obligation to protect information as required by this Agreement. In addition, OFFEROR may disclose Information to OFFEROR’S affiliates, subcontractors and agents who, in each case, have a need to know to accomplish the Purpose, have agreed in writing to maintain the confidentiality of the Confidential Information. OFFEROR warrants, and is liable for, such affiliate's, subcontractor's and agent’s compliance with the terms of this Agreement. In no event shall OFFEROR, its affiliates, subcontractors or agents convert the Confidential Information to any use other than the Purpose. 3. OFFEROR shall destroy the Confidential Information and submit confirmation of the destruction to the State within five business days of the State’s Notice of recommended award. If the OFFEROR does not submit a Proposal, the OFFEROR shall destroy the Confidential Information and submit confirmation of the destruction to the State to Sherry Alban, Procurement Officer, MIEMSS, 653 West Pratt Street, Baltimore, Maryland 21201 on or before the due date for Proposals. If Offeror is unable to destroy the Confidential Information, then it shall be held in confidence as provided herein.

Project Number D53B7400005 4. OFFEROR acknowledges that the disclosure of the Confidential Information may cause irreparable harm to the State and agrees that the State may obtain an injunction to prevent the disclosure, copying, or other impermissible use of the Confidential Information. The State’s rights and remedies hereunder are cumulative and the State expressly reserves any and all rights, remedies, claims and actions that it may have now or in the future to protect the Confidential Information and/or to seek damages for the OFFEROR’S failure to comply with the requirements of this Agreement. The OFFEROR consents to personal jurisdiction in the Maryland State Courts. 5. In the event the State suffers any losses, damages, liabilities, expenses, or costs (including, by way of example only, attorneys’ fees and disbursements) that are attributable, in whole or in part to any failure by the OFFEROR or any employee or agent of the OFFEROR to comply with the requirements of this Agreement, OFFEROR and such employees and agents of OFFEROR shall hold harmless and indemnify the State from and against any such losses, damages, liabilities, expenses, and/or costs. 6. This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of Maryland. 7. OFFEROR acknowledges that pursuant to Section 11-205.1 of the State Finance and Procurement Article of the Annotated Code of Maryland, a person may not willfully make a false or fraudulent statement or representation of a material fact in connection with a procurement contract. Persons making such statements are guilty of a felony and on conviction subject to a fine of not more than $20,000 and/or imprisonment not exceeding 5 years or both. OFFEROR further acknowledges that this Agreement is a statement made in connection with a procurement contract. 8. The individual signing below warrants and represents that they are fully authorized to bind the OFFEROR to the terms and conditions specified in this Agreement. If signed below by an individual employee or agent of the OFFEROR under Section 2 of this Agreement, such individual acknowledges that a failure to comply with the requirements specified in this Agreement may result in personal liability.

OFFEROR: ______BY: ______NAME: ______TITLE:______ADDRESS:______

SUBMIT AS INSTRUCTED IN RFP

Project Number D53B7400005