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No. 23, Monday, Aprlll.5, 198.5/Chaitra 2.5, 1907 (Saka)
COLUMNS Oral Answers to Questions :
·Starred Questions Nos. 425 to 427, 429. 431 and 439 1-27
Written Answers to Questions :
Starred Questions Nos. 428, 430. 432 to 438 and 441 to 444 28-38 Unstarred Questions Nos. 2970 to 3013, 3015 to 3052, 3054 to 3087 and 3089 to 3111 38-186
Correcting Statement to USQ No. 2366 dated 8.3.82 186-189
Papers laid 'On the Table 189-190
Elections to Committees 190-191 (i) Coconut Development Board 190 (ii) National Oilseeds and Vegetable Oils Development Board 191
Matters under rule 377- 192-196
(i) Demand for inclusion of Erawal and Lashkari castes in the list of Scheduled Castes Shri Shanti Dhaliwal 192
(ii) Demand for directing Travancore Titanium Products Ltd. to take over the T. K. Chemicals, Kochuveli (Trivandrum) as its subsidiary unit Shri A. Charles 192-193
(iii) . Need to declare Hyderabad an International Airport Shri O. Bhoopathy 193-194 (iv) Need to provide adequate. funds for anti-erosion mea. sures to check erosion by the Ganga and the BhaBi. rathi rivers in West Bengal
Shrimat(Bibha Ghosh Goswami IN
• The Sian + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question wu actually asked on the Boor of the House by that Member. (v) Demand for setting up industries in Ralgarh district or Madhya Pradesh Kumari Pusbpa Dew 194-19$
(vi) Need to take steps urgently to check the increasina incidence of smaIl.pox in U.P., especially in the Eastern parts Shri Ram Nagina Mishra - 195-196 Demands for Grants (General) 1985·86- 196-312 Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilisers 196-289
Shri R.P. Das 196-200 Shri Ganga Ram 200-203 Shri Oirdhari Lal Vyas 203-208 Shri S. Jaipal Reddy 208-21S Shri Raj Kumar Rai 215-220 Shri R. Annanambi 220-223 Shri Chintamani Jena 223-226 Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee 226-230 Shri Vijay N. PatH 230-233 Shrimati N.P. Jhansi Lakshmi 234-236 Shri Mool Chand Daga 236-240 Shri T. V. Chandrashekharappa 240-242 Shri Ram Bahadur Singh 242-245 Shri Kammodilal Jatav 245-246 Shri Lalitesbwar Sabi 246-249 Shri Veerendra Patil 249-289
Ministry of Health and Family Welfare 289-312 Dr. T. Kalpana Devi 291-297 Shrimati Kishori Sinha 297-303 Dr. O.S. Rajbans - 303-306 Shri Kolandaivelu 306-308 Shri Jaffer Sharier 308-312 LOK SABRA DEBATES
1 2 LOK SABHA forma nee has been in this regard. The requirement of the dwelling units in 30 Monday, April 15, 1985/Chaitra 25, million as disclosed by the Ministry of 1907 (Saka) Works & Housing through its topmost ofll- cer in the Mini~try namely, the Secretary. The Lok Sabha met at Eleven 0/ the Clock This information is as per the official sta- tistics alone of the Ministry of Works & [Mr. SPEAKER in the Chair] Housing. At present, the target fixed by the Government through official statistics ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS is 50 lath dwelling units per year out of which the States and Union Territories Guidelines to States for Housing have been able to produce and show ollly 4 lakh units. [English) *425. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO : In view of this dismal performance of the States and Union Territories, what is Will the Ministers of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to lay a statement the Ministry going to do through any crash proaramme and what are the perspective. showing: and projections of the Ministry in t_ (a) whether Central Government have National Housing Policy to tackle the provided guidelines to certain States with a major problem on a war footing ? view to easing their housing problems; and SHRI ABDUL OHAFOOR: I qree (b) if so, the names of the States? with the hOD. Minister •... [Translation] THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : MR. SPEAKER : It looks as if • lottery is going to be drawn ••••.• (a) and (b). The general guidelines relating to the policy and programmes for (lnterruption$) housing development are contained in the [English) Plan documents which are regularly circu- SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: I agree lated to all the State Governments and with the hon. Member .••••.• Union Territory AdministTations in the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY Sbrl country. In addition, the circulars issued from time to time to them contain the Eduardo FaJeiro is the Chairman of tbe Housing Committee. He is not abJe to detailed instructions regarding programnle provide houses to Members contents of specific schemes. beret He, therefore, deserves to be made a Mihistet SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: All of for Housing. us have been saying here for decades that (Interruptions) shelter along with food and clothing are the SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: He •• topmost priorities, the three major priori- distributes houses. That is wh)" be .... ties of a human.. being. It is unfortunate put this question I that these are not reflected to that extent in the Seventh Five Year Plan. These It is true and it is strange also. But t mUlt have priority. Without making a bi, would also like to inform the bon .. Mero.ber, lpeech. I can just show bow ImaU the per- of the Houe tbat, since the Fk., .'1~.. Orai Answers APR.IL IS, 1985 Oral Answers
Year Plan, Government has been allotting guidelines. We are stressing on - the State money. But it is a strange thing. I will Governments that, at least for these two live you the exact figures. It is an inte- categories, economically weaker sections resting thing and, therefore, every hone and low income group, houses should be Member of the House should know. In constructed and a higher percentage should tbe First Five-Year Plan, in investment in be fixed for these categories. The State Housina in both public and private ~ectors Governments are also, to some extent, was Rs. 1150 crores. the percentage to the following the guidelines. But the short"se total outlay being 34. In the Second Five- is there. Also the Government of India Year Plan, in both public and private has made a commitment before the world s~ors it was Rs, 1300 crores and the per- organization, the UNO, that from 1987 .. coatale to the total outlay was 19. In the Third Plan the investment went up, (Interruptions) bllt the percentale feU to 15. In the Fourth Plan, the allocation went up, I was explaining so that no more supple- but the perc~ntaae fell to twelve. In mentary would arise .... the Siatll Plan the alJocation was Rs. 1100 crore! a8 apinst Rs. 1150 CfCi)feS in the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The answer First Plan. but the average came down to is as long as it is wrong. We are giving 7.s per cent whereas in the First Plan it was sites for rural landJess workers in rural 34 per cent. It is strange that this thing is areas plus Rs. 500. bappenina •... SOME HON. MEMBERS: Rs. 500 ! AN HON. MEMBER What about Se.eJltb P1_ ? SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: We give Rs. 500. Then some State Governments give SltRl A.mOL GHAFOOR: The Rs. 1000 and some other State Governments s..eGtb Plan fipt'e is not yet out. I cannot give Rs. 2000. We give Rs. 500 plus some ..,. ddnitely how much money win be sq. metres of land so that they can cons- allocated in the Seventh plan. Perhaps, truct a thatched hut in order to cover after a month or two it wiU be known. themselves because jf you go to Bihar and This is the peculiar situation which I per- U.P. you will find in villages nearly 30%) sonatfy find: in First Five-Year Plan the of the people live in thatched houses. percentage was 34 and now it has come There are other houses like mud-built down to 7.5. As my hon. friend has houses with Kapa~ and Nadiyas which are stated, about the shortage of houses, no covered in Blhar and U.P. Some of them exact survey bas hoen made. But on the have got semi-pacca and semi~kacha and basis of the census figures, the NBO has some of tbem being kacha and no pacca found out that nearly 24 million dwel1ing and no kacha but thatched. Both cover units are required at present in the country. and also the walls they make it with WIriJe n1Bking the aJloca tions in the F ive- earth. Year Plans, since 1952 to 1971, whatevtr mOMY has beell liven for construction of Therefore, in each State the subject has houses" definite guideline was issued that got different connotation and each State is hCDceforward there would be four catc- given guidelines to have its own sort of lorits, namely, those who were economi- scheme best suited to it. This is the gene- caU, weaker, tJ:)ose whose income was very ra) condition. Whatever assistance is given low, the low income group, then the middle in the Five-Year Plan, according to that we income group, then the fourth, rental move, as we move in other sectors also. honsing schemes, houses constructed by the Oever.nent for its employees. These MR. SPEAKER: Is there any room for atU*JiIIIes wet'e forlltUlated and instructions any further supplementaries after this Ion, were issued to all States, and they have answer 1 been dqing their work according to their resources. ltor tbe 20-point Programme, for SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: The tlte CGDolDically weaker sections parti~u Minister is terribly worried as he acfinlts Ial'ly. dHrerent States have adopted different the entire position as I put it. CRAITlA 2S, 1907 (S..lXA)
MR. S,PEAICER: The Minister has permanent house-to solve tee pN)bJem ~ missed one' thing. It is not only housing a permaneJlt manner. Every )'ear what do that has to be planned but some family these people do? Rs. 500 is giVOl'L 'they planning also has to be done. We have to know with Rs. 500 no ,ermaneDt house can. cov.. this gap. Have you heard about a be built. So they use it in whatever a.t1lCl joke 1 they like.
[Translation] MR. SPEAKER: You ask the que.t.ion.
A (lhild went to a school for admission. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO : I would He was asked his name. He replied. "My like to know whether regarding this )ower name is this". "How many brothers and income group or the EWS the government sisters are you 1" "We are fifteen", he will look into the fact that -many. of the replied. "What is the occupation of your ftats are given under the scheme 0f ,m.. father 1" "This is the only occupation," he ftat and they do not have any iofra-struda.. replied. ral facilities and they are rar away and no transportation facility is there, no school is [English] there and, therefore, houses are not bcU8I built apart from the fact that Rs. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO : A very Soo is telling comment on the whole situation. totally insufficient. Secondly, is it not a fact that it take, SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: There is about 20 years for a governmeat one more thing which the hon. Member sefvaAt from the date when he joins service should know. How much difficul ty does uw1 puts in his application, get loveaamut the Chairman of the House Committee feel to accommodation in allotting houses to the hon. Members 1 here? You have to ~ee my difficulty MR. SPEAKER : You: will ~y also. tab whole one hour for your 'luestioa.. (Interruptions) SHRI EDUARDO FALElRO: Very ~ften a man in government service retires MR.. SPEA KER: Both are in the same after 30 years of service without ever gettmr boat. government accommodation. Now I would like to know from the Minister what he SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: I will intends to do to improve the lot and the not involve him in this. facilities like schooling, transport and other infra-structural facilities regarding ~conom" I .. et me come to my second supplemen- cally weaker sections and gGvernmcmt tary. The Minister realises the gravity of the situation. That is one thing. Then, servants. merely issuing guidelines and circulars to SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : U1'lder tllw the States will not do. You have to make Housing scheme for economicalty ._tor them act and act on a war footing. The section, for Minister mentioned that Rs. 500 is being that is those wbose famif)r income is upto Rs. 350, a Joan of given to the lower income group people to "'*' Rs. 5000 is given. Und~r the HUDa.)i build houses. I have gone over my' an scheme a loan upto Rs. 3,300 is given. Por constituency to every single village and if the low income group, that is, for those one has gone to the villages, he will know whose income is between Rs. 350. and that no house cart be built of a permanent Rs. 600, they are beiDI liven a loa. nature with Rs. SOO . .•• assistance upto Rs. 15,300. MR. SPEAKER: He is not Saying that SHRI EDUARDO FALEIR.O ~ Ul•• fl a house will be built. He says that only a jhuggi will be built. SHRr ABDUL GHAFOOR : AIf· ~ the country. The rate of interest fotDie' SHill BDlJAllDO FAL£IRO : We do Economically Weaker section il 4 to 5 per- DOt want that type of tbini. Wo want a C'Dt. Fpr the low income Jroap it il a'~ . I, l) r ' tiro! Answer, APR.IL IS, 1985 Oral Anlwei'l i aDd tbey can return the money within this housins problem to be solved in the 15 years. Similarly, for the housing scheme near future ? for middle income group, that is, for those whose income is between Rs. 600 and SHRI ABDUL OHAFOOR : The b~n. Rs. 1500, loans are given upto Rs. 50,000 Member is right. So far as the question and the rate of interest is 11. S %. of banks is concerned, how much money they should advance, etc. -these things are SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO : This is discussed in detail by the Planning Commi- Housina Board. It is not built up houses. ssion. It is the Planning Commission What about government servants? which sets the target-so much percentage the banks wi)] have to give. For exampJe, SHill ABDUL GHAFOOR : Govern- from 1983 Rs. ISO crores banks were asked ment servants can also avail of this facility to earmark for the housing sector. So and they can construct their houses. this is not directly dealt with by us. . SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA SHRI A CHARLES : What are the RAO : It is the Government which has to pidelines given by the Ministry of Housing take the decision. to the State Governments for preparing schemes for providing houses to the SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: The poorest of the poor 1 In Kerala if a Government has to take decisions in all person wants to get the benefit of such a matters-both in housing and in other scheme, he should have at least 3 cents of matters also. land in the urban area or 5 cents of land in the rural area. There are several lakhs of Cotton Production per Hectare people, especially in the coastal belt of Kerala who do not own any land. They + are living on the government poromboke *426. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA lands. May I know whether the Govern- SARI AMARSINH RATHAWA ~nt will consider a scheme for providing houses for such people who do not own any Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE land or at least flats to such poorest of the AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased poor? to state: (a) the production of colton per hectare; SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : This housing scheme is not a centrally sponsored (b) whether India has the lowest per scheme. Housing is a State subject. In the hectare production in cotton ; State they can also formulate their own (c) if so, the reasons thereof; and guidelines to give house sites to those persons who have got not even a single (d) the steps being taken by Government inch of land. Either they can subsidise it to increase cotton production in the or they can give it free to them and allow country? them to construct their own thatched or kacha or pacca one-room or two-room THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE h0U8~8. It is for the State Governments AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI to do. BUTA SINGH) : (a) and (b). Average production of cotton (lint) in India durina the three years 1981-82 to 1983-84 is SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA 158 Kgs. per hectare. This is among the )lAO : Is the Government aware of the lowest in the cotton growing countries of fact that according to the guidelines issued the world. to the nationalised banks, only 1 % of their advances is to be Jiven for hQusing (c) The reasons for low productivity ot and this comes in the way of faster progress cotton in Indja, inter-alia, include :- in ·the matter of housing programmes? If (i) Low irrigation coverage; 50, will the Government give revised iDatructioDs pennittina them to give more (ii) Inadequacy of quality leeds for than 1 %, say, at least 2 or 3 % to enable sowina ; CHAITIlA 25, 1907 (SAKA) It
(iii) Low application of fertilisers and 4.6 per cent and Qujarat 30.S per cent. plant protection measures vis-a-vi 8 Non-availability of water at critical high susceptibility of the crop to stales of growth in rain fc~ areu peltS and diseases-especially boll drastically reduces the cotton prod~tieD. worms. That is why I have said in the main answer that the Government is trying seriously to (d) For increasing cotton production increase the irrigated area under cotton and productivity, a Centrally Sponsored crop. Intensive Cotton Development Programme (ICDP) is being implemented by the SHRI JAGANNATH RAO: What i. Government of India in the major cotton the cost of irrigation ? growing States of Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, SHRI BUTA SINGH: The cost of Maharash tra, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka irrigation as the hone Member is aware is and Tamil Nadu. In addition, the Prog- jointly shared. Mostly it is the State ramme is also in operation in two relatively Government but Central Government also minor cotton producing States of Orissa helps the States. The hon. Member asked and Uttar Pradesh. The main strategy about the integrated projects and the all under the Programme consists of expansion India schemes introduced by the Govern.. of irrigated area under the crop, maximiza- ment of India. The ICDP was started in tion of area under high yielding hybrids 1971-72 and as I have already m~ntioned both in irrigated and rainfed conditions, it is spreading in almost all States. We integrated pest management, accelerating are going to expand this central Scheme in the spread of improved technology etc. almost aU the cotton growing States.
SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : Sir, may SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: May I I know from the hone Minister whether it know whether it is a fact that the farmers is a fact that only 15 to 16 per cent of and growers are not interested to have the cotton area under cotton crop is irri- more cultivation under high-yielding varie- gated and the rest is rain-fed? If so, what ties of long-staple and super long staple special measures have been taken by the since the textile mills in the country are Government to provide more irrigation not interested to purchase those cotton and facilities for cotton growing land? The the farmers are losing a lot. hon. Minister in his written reply has stated that Intensive Cotton Development The textile mills are saying that they are Programme (lCDP) has been taken up in not able to produce more than 40 counts of variuos States. May I know when this pro- yarn. If they go for more numbers like gramme was taken up in the various cotton SO, 60, 100 and so on, then there will be growing States and what is the achieve- more excise duty imposed on those yarns. ment '1 He has also said that through this So, what is the Government '8 reaction to programme irrigated area will be expanded. it so that these high yielding varieties will May I know whether it is the responsibility be made more popular '1 By this we will of the State Government or through this be able not only to cater to indiaenous programme the Union Government will demand but we will also be able to export provide funds for more irrigation facilities it to other countries. Certified seeds as in cotton growing areas ? well as improved seeds of cotton arc Dot adeQ.uately supplied to the States where SHRI BUTA SINGH: Sir, the hon: there is demand for them. I am speaking Member has said that about lS to 16 per particularly about Orissa. These cotton seeds cent area under cotton crop is irrigated. are not being supplied and also the foun- That is not correct. Out of nearly 80 lakh dation seeds too. May I know what action hectares of the area under cotton crop Government has taken to supply the requk. about '28 per cent is irrigated. Much of ed seeds to the cotton growing States? the ifrigated area is located in Punjab, Haryana and Rajasthan. In the traditional SHRI BUTA SINGH: So far as supply cotton growing State of Maharashtra the of seeds is concerned, about 12 la~ hoc- e~teQt or irriBate4 ~rea pnder cotton is mr~~ Of area \lpdor ~ot*on ~\lltjyalioll Is tt APIlIL 15. 1985 l' ccwerec! by hybrid varieties of 100 % bales of c:ottOb. It is proposed ito lIfant certified seeds. Another 4 lakh heetarot them further permission to eqK)rt more of ma is covered by certified seeds. The cotton, when they approach tho Centre, so rem.miDl 80 % of the area under that growers could get hisber prices. ootton does not generally receive quality seed' at the farmers are not in a position to The hon. Member has expressed the fear retain their own seeds for want of inning that due to lower prices, the farmers wo,dd facility in villages. The hon. Member reduce the acreage of land undor cotton wanted to know about long staple varieties farming, but I do not anticipate such a of cottGn production. It has been increa- situation. We shall help the farmot8 in sing. At present the picture is this. Out every way and shall back them up and of total production 42 % is covered by ensure that they do not reduce the acreaae superior lonl and long varieties and 58 ~Io of cotton farming due to lower prices. We ts covered by superior medium, medium shall take steps, in coordination with aDd short medium. Therefore the area Gujarat Government, to ensure that the under long varieties have risen quite farmers do not reduce the Dereage of considerab1y. There was a time about 10 cotton farming. years ago when we were importing long stal'1e varieties. Now we are main expor- [EnglishJ ters of long staple varieties of cottOD. This Shows that we are not only catering to our SHRI b. A YY APU REDDY : May I internal demand but we have exceeded it. know from lhe hon. Minister whether the Por that matter, we are an exporting Cotton Development Committee which was country so rar as long staple cotton is cosntituted some time back has also been concerned. Supply of certified seeds is for the purpose of increasing the produc- receiving our attention. I am going to tivity per hectare in our country and what convene a meeting of the officers here and role this Committee has been playing in .1so the States people to find out as to how achieving this objective? I would also best we can streamline distribution of certi· like to know from the hon. Minister whether fie4 seeds of cotton. the support price announced by the Agri. cultural Prices Commission is remunerative. lTraulGtion] Sir, it is totaJly unremunerative and the SHRI AMARSINGH RATHAWA: peasants have no motivation for cotton Mr. Speaker, Sir, there are many back- development and cotton production. I ward and tribal areas in the country where would also like to know from the hon. cotton is being produced, but the pesticides, Minister whether there would be any insecticides and fertilisers sold there are attempt to Include 'kisans' in the advisory adu1terated and consequently the produc- body of the Ag! lcultural Prices Commis .. tion of cotton goes down. Secondly, cotton sion and take their advice. ripens more in Chhota Udaipur, Distt. Baroda, and the yield of cotton in Gujarat SHRI BUTA SINGH : As already bas been very good this year, but the prices announced by the hon. Prime Minister we are very low. It is quite possible that due are trying to enlarge the scope of the to lower prices, the acreage of land under Agricultural Prices Commission. It is cotton crops might be reduced next year. going to be cost-based and there will be I would like to ask the hon. Minist~r if more representatives from the farmers side. he has any scheme to ensure fa ir prices to Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is your desire and you the farmers as also to check the sale of directed that we must make the Agricultural adulterated pesticides and fertilisers. Prices Commission broad-based. Tile House will be pJeased to know that the hon . . fSHItI l1UTA SINGH: As the hon. Prime Minister has already given an Member has himself said, there has been indication that there should be more a bumper crop of cotton this year in farmers on the Board and they should be Oujarat. Last time also, the State Gove-rn- from all the areas, from the hlah.. yield ment of Gujarat had sought the permission growing areas, dry"land farmnig arq&s, for the export of cotton and they were from the landless labourers etc. Therefore, stven 1'be permission to export 20 thousand "the bon. Member's point is well taken l' CHAITRA lI, tJ07 fIAICA) and the Dew conatitutod 008t-baSed Aari .. latest dilcoweriaa. Sa far a ...... velop- cul•• 1 Prices Commission wUI take ioto meat is concerned, we are quite a ware and acc..n aU the lugestioDS made by the we are at it. boa. MemOer. MR. SPEAKER: You have to allure SHRI 0.0. SWELL : The hon. Minister only one thing and that is a'VaRability of bas liven many reasons for the Jow yield of very good quality of in5ecticic1el: ,. cotton, some of them being non-availability have to keep a check on that. of high-quality seeds and susceptibility to pests. The hon. Minister must be aware tbat bio-technoJogy is the name of the game SHRI BUTA SINOH: Thank ,ou, Sir. in the world today and we have received I will do tha t. reports that our Government has entered into protocols with some bio-tech multi- PROF. N. O. RANOA: Some tIme national corporations. These corporations ago, you were good enough to obs~ m have been collecting seeds and plasm of behalf of all of us the horror of the HoUle different plants and crops in our country. at the mal-practices perpetrated by the I would like to know from the hon. Minister fertilizer distributors. My hon. friend from whether his Ministry has been in touch Gujarat has referred to that, but no answer with any of these multinational Corpora- has been given by the Minister. The House, tions about the development of a new I am sure. will like the Government to hybrid cotton seeds that will give more take very strong measures in resard to yield and be more resistant to diseases and that. whether we have developed something on these lines ourselves. There is another thing; _" is Deed for co-ordination between the Miaistry of SHRI BUTA SINGH : At the outset let AgricuJture and the Commerce Ministry. me make it dear that we are far better so My hon. friend has informed the H
S.No. Name of State/UT Rural Urban Total
1. Andhra Pradesh 1205 891 !OD6 2. Assam 3090 267 3357 3. Bihar 4199 141 4340 4. Gujarat 557 69 626 s. Haryana 6. Himachal Pradesh 9 -9 7. Jammu & Kashmir 237 57 294 8. Karnataka 883 528 1411 9. KeraJa ]]8 227 345 10. Madhya Pradesh 1709 532 2241 11. Maharashtra 796 110 906 12. Manipur 29 29 13. Meghalaya 183 1'83 14. Nagaland 102 102 15. Orissa 739 100 839 16. Punjab 78 78 17. Rajasthan 446 ]3S '81 18. Sikkim 19. Tamil Nadu 334 890 1224 20. Tripura 131 SI 182 21. Uttar Pradesh 2794 861 3661 22. West Bengal 1191 735 1926 23. Andaman & Nicobar Islands .. 13 2 1~ 24. Arunachal Pradesh SO SO 25. Chandigarh 34 34 26. Dadra & Nagar Ha veli 7 7 21. Delhi 54 54 28. Goa, Daman & Diu 16 51 67 29. Lakshadweep 30. Pondicherry 43 43 31. Mizoram
TOTAL: 18800 S900 247m
Indicates neslisible. CHAITIlA 25, 1.7 (SrAKA)
AN BON. MEMBER. Same Cl'Jeation I understand that the hone Member is alain. It has already been covered. from Tamil Nadu. He sbould visit Kot.e1a.. If he goes there, he will try to adopt the MR. SPEAKER: Same wine in new same methods in his State a) so. As far as bottle. Or is the label also changed? Un- the question about Government dom, tome- necessarily two questions on the same tbing is concerned, we are doing our boat. subject. I do not know what more you would like to ask now. We have spent a PROF. K.K. TEWAR Y: Unfortunately., lot of time, almost twenty minutes on this about 40 % of the poorest of the question Mr. Tewary. I think you were poor of this country live in Bihar. This not here at that time. That is why you is the unfortunate situation. Their dwel- missed it. The House did not miss it~ ling places are worse than hovels. In view Only you missed it. of this demeaning and degrading poverty, and the requirement of dwelling places f_ SHRI N. DENNIS: As the number of tbe rural as well as urban poor, what has bouseless persons is on the increase year to the Central Government done to assist the year, it would pose a very serious problem State Government in Bihar, to enable it to in the coming years, if it is not tackled provide bettel living facilities for the poor effectively. May I know whether the hone in the State ? Minister would take into consideration the magnitude of the problem and give top MR. SPEAKER: I am afraid that ques- priority and press the Government for en- tion has already been answered exhaus- hanced allotment in the Seventh Five Year tive1y. You can check up the record, and Plan which is under the process of deter- find out. mination? SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR This SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR I think question was asked earlier, and I have that the answer to this supplementary has already answered it. already been given partly by the Speaker of this House. So far as the question of (Interruptions) efforts being made, we are doing our best to increase the outlay in the Seventh Five Under the 20-point programme, a greater Year Plan. emphasis is laid on the supply of house- sites for those who have not got lands SHRI N. DENNIS: There are a large either in rural or urban areas. As far as number of landless and houseless persons urban areas are concerned, an assistance Jiving in the country, particularly, as an upto Rs. 3,000/- is given. As far as the instance, in the South Coast of Kerala and State Government doing something is con- in Kanya Kumari District. cerned, it depends much on the strength and willingness of the State Government- They live in thickly-populated, congested i.e. how far it is going to give assistance to and unhygienic surroundings. They bave those persons who do not possess Jand. no land and they have no house at all. They Government gives some assistance. In are poverty-stricken. They are incapable many States, you will find that the State of purchasing house sites for putting up Government from its own resources gives houses. Rs. 2,000/- or Rs. 3,000/-....
May I know from the hone Minister (Interruptions) whether a time-bound programme is there MR. SPEAKER : This has already been to enable each such family to own a house, answered. The hon. Member can have a or a house site '1 look at it.
SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: In KeraJa, SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I would the concerned department is doing much like to bring to your notice that something better, so far as the question of providing is wrong with the whole statistics, because houses fa concerned.' the figure given for Andhra Pradesh in res- (z"U"~) pect of rural dwelling units is 1.2 million, 23 Oral A lINet'J APRrt 1'. 1985 which is ridiculously low. So, will tbe SHRI ABDUL OHAPOOR : I can live Government do something to see that the figures of all the States. data are properly prepa red ? MR. SPEAKER: You can give those Secondly, as part of the answer, the figures to him separately. Minister has 'stated that in the 6th Plan, the outlay fixed is Rs. 1490 crores, whereas in LOIS or Cluslc Tape on 'Rabab' the Sth Plan the outlay fixed was only Rs. 600 crores. Can the Minister indicate *431. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS the 6th Plan the actual amount spent during M UNSHI : Will the Minister of INFOR.. period? MATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: I will have to collect those figures from all the (a) Whether AIR's classic tape on States-i.e. how much money they have "RABAB" instrumental music of Late spent. Ustad Alauddin Khan who was the only (Inlerrupt ions) maestro on this instrument has been lost or destroyed ; and SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : . No ; the anticipated figures are available from all (b) if so, whether any effort will be departments. the made by his Ministry to preserve specially the voice of Late Ustad Bade Gulam Ali, SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : As far as Amir Khan, Poet Nazrul Islam, Tagore Andhra Pradesh IS concerned, the target and all the available master tapes of Late was 11,10,000. This wa~ the target. The Ustad Alauddin Khan? achievement was about 15 lakhs. You will be surprised that the achievement in Andhra Pradesh was 134 %. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND PROF. K. K. TEWARY: This relates BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL): to figures before 1982, before Te)ugu Desam (a) No, Sir. AIR did not have in its came into being. possession any tape of the instrumental music "RABAB'; by Late Ustad Alauddin MR. SPEAKER: That is even good. Khan. You should be proud of that. (b) In AIR's Archives the recordings of Late Ustad Bade Gulam Ali Khan, PROF. K.K. TEWARY : We are proud Ustad Amir Khan and Rabindra Nath of that. Tagore and of Late Ustad Alauddin Khan's Instrumental Music recital on Sarod, sur- MR. SPEAKER : Even the present singar and violin are available. The recor- member should also be proud of that. It is dings of Poet Nazrul Islam are not avail- a gain i-n any way : whether you do it or able in AIR's Archives. they do it. There is no problem. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSHI: SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : Let there The Late Ustad Alauddin Khan was the be a competition between the two. only great maestro in the whole world who used to play all kinds of instrumental SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY musics and the rarest was the instrument So far as allocation of fund by H UDCO is of "RABAB" which has Persian touch and conce(ned, may I khow the State-wic;e the Middle East touch. I fully contest break-up of allocation of fund by HUDCO this answer of the Minister in the sense that for different States? Is it a fact that be- I can prove and substantiate if the Minister cause of the non-cooperation or lack of agrees which date and when "RABAB" enthusiastic cooperation by the West was recorded in the AIR. The fact that Bengal Government, the aJlocation is very "RABAB" tape was lost and destroyed is low? Let him check up the figure. the reason why tqe answer has come that (Interruptions) we are not in posse8siott of this tape. It il CHAltRA 2~i 1901 (SAltA) Oral Answers
• ,"at loss for the entire national culture. than 3,000 tapes of various maestros and In the recent days, the music learners and great speeches deliver¢d and our effort is to the listeners are deprived of Ustad Alauddin continue to augment these and therefore, Khan's ,harana teachings except those this suggestion is very good. I will try to through Pandit Rabisankar and Ustad Ali consider. Akbar Khan. Will the Minister ensure that on tbe Doordarshan and All India MR. SPEA KER : And also, when are Radio sursingar, violin and sarod played we going to have a musical session? by Ustad Alauddin Khan with positive interpretation of the raghas will be played, SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS telecast and broadcast at least once.. in a MUNSHI : It is up to you, whenever you month for the learners of the music in the want, you can have it. country to preserve that gharollQ ? MR. SPEA KER: The go ahead signal SHRI V. N. OADGIL : As rar as Door- is given. darshan is concerned, I can share with the House the difficuJty. The main difficulty SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: is that the programme is for 1 t hours. I can aJso participate. Within 1t hours, we have to crowd so many items. Although the suggestion is to MR. SPEAKER: You also? Excellent. play it at least once in a month, I cannot Very good. promise that. We will do it ; we will try to adjust it. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD : The idea of having a record and for the MR. SPEAKER t can solve your future generations to listen to music is very problem. If you assist me, I suggest you good. May I know from the hon. Minister increase the time. how often does the listener or the public get the benefit of the collection from the SHRI BUTA SINGH: I was thinking, archives, and whether in some station" perhaps the suggestion would be 'Grow they are also provided tape recorders from more cotton'. the archives?
SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS SHRI V. N. GADGIL: Every Sunday MUNSHI: The golden voice of Tagore on the Radio at 10 o'clock some tape from and J understand that the famous Thumri old maestros from the archives is played. of Bade Gulam Ali Khan This is one programme at present. Another one which we have stat ted is of some top Kyo karun Sajni, aaye no Baa/am. artists who are at their zenith now, and in are almost from the archives now, and a few years' time their decline will start. Amir Khan's composition of Darbari is We trying to record one hour's programme also lost from tbe archives; Poet Nazrul of each such great artists for the future Islam's golden voice, which is now preserved generation. by the Gramophone Company of India, is also not available in the archives of AU SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: India Radio. Will the Government ensure I have a suggestion to make. You cut out a policy or make a proper legislation for that ludicrous Lucy and you make provi. it, that aU the copies of the maestros' sion for some poems of Tagore. tapel available with the Gramophone Com- (Interruptions) pany of I,dia, of all the famous artists of the country, "Yesterday, Today and To- SHRI V. N. OADGIL: The hon. morrow" are compulsorily obtained by All Member will be happy to know that Lucy India Radio ? is already cut out. It is over.
AN HON. MEMBER.: Very good. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE Instead of that another Lucy has come SHIU V. N. GADOIL: Thil i. a very DOW. aood ...... tioD. Aa it if, wa haN. men. (Interrllptions) 21 Oral AnNettl
SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: If it Is WJltITTEN ANSWER.S TO QUESnONS over, then where is the need to cut it out ? [E"oli~h] MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Ramakrishna More. Absent. Veaetable Processing Plant in Haryau Shri D. V. Desai. Absent. ·428. SHRl LALA R.AM KEN: SHRI V. SREENIVASA Shri Zainal Abedin. Absent. PRASAD: Shri Kamal Nath. Absent. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Shri Mohanlal Patel. Absent. SUPPLIES be pleased to refer to the Shri Thampan Thomas. Absent reply given to Starred Question No. 23~ on 26 July, ]982 regarding vegetable pro- All have gone to some musical session, cessing plant and state:
It is a double hat trick if six people are (a) the efforts Government have made missing in a row. for the finalisa tion of the techno-economic feasibility report about setting up a Shri Dalchander Jain. Absent. vegetable processing ph)nt for production It is remarkable. of tomato paste in Gurgaon district of Haryana; Shri K. V. Thomas. Thank you very (b) whether the said report has been much. On behalf of the whole House I finalised; thank you. (c) if so, the salient features of the ReIa, of Malayalam TV Pregnumnes report; and from Cocbin (d) the reasons for delaying the projec 1 report? .439. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: WILL THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION" THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (a) whether the Malayalam T.V. pro- SINGH : (a) to (c). The techno-economic gramme transmi tted from Trivandrum will feasibility report for a fruit and vegetable be relayed from Cochin transmitter; and processing plant proposed t.o be set up by tbe modern Food Industries (India) Limited (b) whether steps will be taken to in Gurgaon district in Haryana bas heCD transmit Malayalam programmes through- finalised. The report is now under consi- out Koral. in a short period? deration of the Company. It envisages processing of tomato, guava, ash gourd and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE mango pulp, and estimates the capital cost MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND of the project at Rs. 151.6 Jakbs. BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL): (a) Provision of microwave link between (d) It has taken time to finalise the Trivandrum and Cochin, to enable relay of feasibility report as it had to be reviled proaramme of Doordarshan Kendra, Tri- from time to time to ensure the viability 0f vaadrum by the TV transmitter, Cochin. is the project. an approved scheme. Suitable action hal been initiated to provide the link. MnapllleDt Stuely Report oa Shortap of FoodgraJns (b) As yet, there is no approved scheme .430. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY to link all relay transmitters in Kerala with Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Doordarsban Kendra, Trivandru.m. Arran- SUPPLIES be pleased to state: gements for relay of Malayalam program- (a) whether the six important recom.. mes throughout the State will depend on mendations contained in the Management tbe availability of resources 4uring future Study Report of the Department of Per&on· Plan periods. nel and Administrative Reforms (completed in 1'R) .. I4) GIll the auhject of shor.... 5 1 of feodp'u.' dwi. tn_ au ...... btl_ ~ItArrllA. WI" fIAI(A) Food Corporadm .r __ flaw been im- (b) if so, the total quantity of food- plemented ; and graiDs prOCUl"ed by the end of October ; to). if IQ, the roslilts theroof ? (e) to what extent the target wilt be achieved ; and THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL. SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (d) the states where Kharif production " SINGH) : (8) The R.eport of the Depart. was more than the target ? ment or Personnel and Administrative Re- THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND forms on the study of transit and storage CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA losses of the food Ct>rporation of India SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. contaiDB a .umber of recommendations. (b) The total procurement of Kharif These recommondations refer to six major foodgrains from the beginning of the cur- areas of operations relating to storage aad rent marketing season, till end October, inspection, procurement, weighment, phy- 1984, was 18.47 lakh tonnes. sical verification, jute bags and inter-facing (c) and (d). No target for procurement with the R.ailways. These recommendations have been examined by an Empowered has been fixed. Committee set up by the Government. The Legislation for Providing FacUities to decisions of the Empowered Committee are Beedj Workers in the process of implementation by the "434. SHRI ZAINAL ABEDIN: Will Food Corporation of India. the Minister of LA BO U R be pleased to (b) As a result of various steps taken state : the total shortages of foodgrains suffered (a) the number of people engaged in by Food Corporation of India on tlte total the beedi industry in the country, State- volume of operations have come down to wise; 2.11 % in 1983-84 as compared to 2.37~{J in (b) whether Government intend to 1982-83. enact any comprehensive legislation to pro- Report 01 Second Preis C8IIIIIIission vide for the same treatment and facilities for the beedi workers as the industrial *432. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: workers enjoy ; and Will the Minister of INFORMATION (c) if not, the reasons therefor? AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI (a) whether Government have consi· T. ANJlAH) : (a) to (c). A statement is dered the report of Second Press Commis- laid 011 the Tab1e of the Sabha. sion ; and Statement (b) if so, whether the details of recom- Legislation for Providing Facilities to B~.dl Workers mendations accepted by Government wilt be laid Gn the Table? The approximate number of beedi wor- kers State-wise is given below :- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE State No. ot Worken MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (in lakhs) BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL): 1. Andhra Pradesh 2.50 (a) and (b). The recommendations made 2. Bihar 3.50 by the Commission are under considera... 3. Gujarat 0.22 tion anei it shall take quite some time 4. Karnataka 3.00 before aay decision is taken on them by 5. Kerala 1.so the Government. 6. Madhya Pradesh 5.00 7. Maharashtra 2.50 Fooc1Il'allll Pnouemeat 8. Orissa 1.60 *433. SHRI B. V. DESAI: Will the 9. Rajasthan 0.35 Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- 18. Tamil Nadu 2.00 PUR be pleased to state: 11. Uttar Pradesh 4.50 ~.) whetber the kl'mrif mati:etina season 12. West Bengal ha. shown that there was s.ititfactory crop 13. Assam 4.50. b.u+elt'''' feoctaram ptocurement for the 14. Tn:pora } Central pool bal beep cuartorta1lt'; IS. Meahalaya W,ltten A'n1We" APRIL *" lJaS Deedi & Cigar Workers (Conditipns of Lnr Sttpr Prkw Employment) Act, 1966 is a comprehensive *436. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: piece of legislation which provides for the Wln the Minister of POOD AND CIVIL welfare of the workers in beedi and ciaar SUPPLIES he pleased to state: establishments and regulates ~he conditions of their work and matters connected there- (a) the present levy sugar price heiDI with. The Act also provides for the appli- paid by Government to the sugar pro.. cability of the fonowing Acts : ducers; (a) Industrial Employment (Standin, (b) whether it is very low; Orders) Act, 1946. (c) whether due to low price the far- mers arc not getting reasonable price for (b) Maternity Benefit Act, 1961. sugarcane ; and (c) Factories Act, 1948. (d) jf so, whether Government will (d) Industrial Disputes Act, 1947. consider to increase the levy sUBar price and if so, when ? (e) Payment of Wages Act, 1936. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Target to Cover Youths under Trysem CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENORA SINGH) : (a) A statement is laid on the *435. SHRI KAMAL NATH: Will TabJe of the Sabha. the Minister of AGRICULTURE & (b) No, Sir. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased ~o (c) and (d). Do not arise. state: (a) number of youths covered under Statement Training of Rural Youth for Self-Employ- Zone-wise ex-factory prices 0/ levy sugar ment Programme in Madhya Pradesh during fixed/or /984-8S season the Sixth Five Year Plan; S1. Zone Levy sugar price (b) the targets fixed for 1985-86 and No. for S-30 grade the Seventh Five Year Plan for that State Rs. per Quintal a8 also for the country as a whole; and (c) whether any priority is being given 1. Andhra Pradesh 345.94 Assam, Naga)an~ to adivasi areas ? 2. 366.31 Orissa and West Bengal THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE 3. Bihar (North) 425.64 Bihar (South) 443~19 MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND 4. RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI S. Gujarat 333.12 CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR) : (a) The 6. Haryana 367.27 total number of youth trained under 7. Karnataka 339.80 Kerala Ooa 315.90 training of Rural Youth for Self-Employ- 8. & ment (TRYSEM) in Madhya Pradesh 9. Madhya Pradesh 417.16 Maharashtra 335.19 during the Sixth Five Year Plan was 102676 10. (upto January, 1985). It. Punjab 337.98 12. Rajasthan 420.4' (b) Till finaHsation of the Seventh Plan, 13. Tamil J'l.adu & 343.20 the present minimum target of 40 youth Pondicherry per block per annum would continue under 14. Uttar Prade$b (Central) 368.24 TRYSEM. 15. Uttar Pradesh (East) 424.11 16. Uttar Pradesh (West) 363.47 (c) Under the present guidelines of TRYSEM, it is stipulated that adeast 30 NOTE: In respect of weak units. an iaere- per cent of the youth selected should be mental levy price of Rs. 26/· P4r from the scheduled caste and scheduled tribe quintal has been allowed on.1 the communities irrespective of tbo area in existlna parameters base4 on .Ie which they live. and ca~t1. CHAITRA 2~, 1907 (SAKA) Written AlISWers 34
VerlfleatloD of Membership of Central (c) what is the present position of the Trade Union Orpailadons membership of the Central Trade Union Organisations? .437. SHaI THAMPAN THOMAS Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI to state: • T. ANJIAH): (a) to (c). The verifica- (a) whether any steps have been taken tion of membership of Central Trade Union to verify the membership of the Central Organisations as on 31.! 2.1980 was conduc- Trade Union Organisations ; ted and the result was announced on (b) when the last verification was com- 30.8.1984. The details are given in the pleted and what are the details of the verifi- statement which is laid on the Table of the cation; and House.
Statement Stateme"t showing Claimed a"d Verified Membership figures of Central Trade Union Organisations for the year ending 31,12 1980
S1. Name of the CLAIMED PROVISIONAL FINAL VERIFIED No. Central Orga- VERIFIED nisation ------No.~of Membership No. of Membership No. of Membership Unions Unions Unions
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1. I.N.T.U.C. 3,457 35,09,326 @1,604 @22,36,128 @1,604 @22,36,128 2. B.M.S. 1,725 18,79,728 @1,333 @12,1l,345 @1,333 @12,11,345 3. H.M.S. 1,122 18,48,147 409 7,35,027 426 7,62,882 4. U.T.U.C. (LS) 154 12,38,891 134 6,21,359 134 6,21,359 5. N.L.O. 249 4,05,189 172 2,46,540 172 2,46,540 6. U.T.V.C. 618 6,08,052 158 35,384 175 1,65,614 7. T.U.C.C. 182 2,72,229 63 14,570 65 1,23,048 8. N.F.I.T.V. 166 5,27,375 80 84,123 80 84,123 9. A.I.T.U.C. *1,366 * 10,64,330 1,080 3,44,746 1,080 3,44,746 10. C.I.T.V. *1,737 *10,33,432 1,474 3,31,031 1,474 3,31,031
TOTAL 10,776 1,23,86,699 6,507 58,60,253 6,543 61,26,816
@ 1) The above figures do not include the membership figures of 13 unions of the BMS and one of the INTUC in the Posts and Telegraphs Department as an objection has been raised in this reaard. A finaJ decision in this regard will be taken after further examination of the issue.
·2) The figures shown as claimed membership of AITUC and CITU have been obtained from the records of respective Relistrars of Trade U niona as these unions hav. failed to submit thom. Written AhIWer8 APRIL IS, J985 Written A",wrs 36
[Translation] [English; RebabUltatloD of Slum Dwellen in Delhi Replacing of 1 KW Transmitter by 10 KW Transmitter *441. SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGAR WAL : Will the Minister of WORKS *438. SHRI D. C. JAIN: Will the AND HOUSING be pleased to state: Minister of INFORMATION & bROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: (a) whether Government have chalked out a comprehensive scheme to rehabilitate (a) whether previously the tl ansmitter slum dwellers in Delhi; at Doordarshan Kendra, Bhopal was of one KW power which has now been replaced by (b) if so, the details thereof; another transmitter of]O KW and if so, the e-,rpenditure involved in its replace- (c) whether Government would also ment; formulate new schemes for improvement of slum like conditions in various 'Kalras' of (b) the rost of instaJling one K Wand walled city of Delhi ; 10 KW power tran5mitter ~eparateJy ; (d) if so, details in this regard; and (c) whether the old one KW transmit ter (e) if not, reasons therefor? of Bhopal can be installed at Damoh ; and THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (d) if not, whether the one KW trans- HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): mitter at Sagar is also likely to be replaced (a) and (b). The programme for the by 10 KW transmitter so that the people benefit of slum dwellers at present in of Damoh, Chhatarpur and Panna Districts operation in Delhi includes the Scheme for of Madhya Pradesh may be benefited by Environmental Improvement of Slum areas and housing for Economically Weaker Doordarshan ~ervice ? Sections. During Sixth Plan a Scheme relating to construction of tenements for THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE slum dwellers has been in operation. MINISTRY OF INFORMATION & BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL): (c) Yes, sir. (a) A low power (100 Watt) TV trans- mitter (LPT) was set up at Bhopal in (d) and (e). Following schemes are November, 1982. This was repJaced on proposed to be taken up in the Seventh 23.10.84 by a 10 KW high power transmitter Five Year Plan :- (HPT) sanctioned at an estimated cost of Rs. 270.3 lakhs. (1) Structural improvement in Slum Katras. (b) The estimated cost of setting up a 10 KW transmitter is Rs. 270.3 lakhs and (2) Environmental improvement in slum that of setting up a one KW transmitter is areas. Rs. 164.26 lakhs. The expenditure incurred on installation of the LPT at Bhopal is (3) Conversion of dry latrines into Rs. 12.04 lakhs. water-borne latrines in slum areas. Higher Expenditure on Mo,ement of (c) No, Sir. 1 he LPT earlier instaHed Sugar in Kerala at Bhopal and released due to commission- ing of an HPT there, has since been dep- *442. PROF. P.J. KURIEN : Will the loyed at another place according to the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES approved plan for its replacement. be pleased to state:
(d) No, Sir. There is no approved (a) whether the Kerala Civil Supplies scheme, at present to replace the low Corporation is incurring heavy loss on power (100 Watt) transmitter at Sagar by a account of higher expenditure in the move- 10 K W transmitter. ment of sugar from mills ; Written Answers CHAITl\A 2$, 1907 (SAKA) ~rltten Answers
"(b) whether any demand has been made (c) and (d). Tenders for Marine works by Kera)a that the expenditure allowed by have been invited by the State Government. the Centre should be raised to Rs. 19 per quintal ; and Oft" -Take From Public Distribution System *444. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: (c) if so, the reaction of Government Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL thereto? SUPPLIES be pleased to state:
THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND (a) whether there has been steep fall in CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA the off-take from the Public Dislribution SINGH) : (a) and (b). The Government System; of Kerala have requested for an increase in the wholesalers' margin aHowed to the (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and Kerala State Civil Supplies Corporation for handling levy sugar from Rs. 9.70 to (c) what bas been the off-take from Rs. 19.58 per quintal mainly on the ground the Public Distribution System during the that the said Corporation is incurring heavy last three years, year-wise ? losses on levy sugar transactions due to inadequate margin. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (c) The present wholesalers' margin was SINGH) : (a) and (c). The distribution of fixed by t he Government with effect from foodgrains in the Public Distribution 1.1.1983 only after detailed discussion with System was 11.40 million tonnes in 1982, State Government representatives and such 12.97 million tonnes in 1983, and 10.1S an early revision of this margin has not million tonnes in 1984. The off-take in been considered to be justified. 1984 recorded a fall in relation to the previous year. Integrated Fishing Development Projects in Orissa (b) The lower off-take of foodgrains in 1984 may be due to record level of produc- *443. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will tion and consequential easy availability in the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND the open market. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Withdrawals from Provident Fund Deducted from Salary (a) the number of the Integrated 2970. SHRI BRAJA MOHAN Fisheries Development Projects implemented MOHANTY : WiJl the Ministry of in Orissa during the Sixth Plan Period ; LABOUR be pleased to state:
(b) whether Government have a propo- (a) whether Audo-Viso Corporation, sal to implement more Integrated Fisheries WZ-8/6, Kirti Nagar, Industrial Area, New Development Projects during the Seventh Delhi, has been deducting the Provident Plan; Fund amount from the saJary of their -employees regularly ; (c) the amount spent on those Integra- ted Fisheries Development Projects in the (b) if so, whether proper account is Sixth Plan; and . maintained by the said Corporation and the amount is deposited with the P. F. (d) the progress made in implementing Commissioner regularly amountins to those projects ? lakhs of rupees ;
THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (c) whether in a case the Delhi Hiah AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT ~HRI Court had directed the P. F. Commissioner BUTA SINGH) : (a) One to grant the advance/withdrawals to its contributors (employees) on application; (b) One proposal has been reoeived by the GoverDDlent 80 far. (d) if so, details thereof; and ;9 Written An3wers APRIL 1$, 1985 Written Answe,.,
(e) whether the loans/withdrawals will THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND be sanctioned to the employees of the said HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): Corporation from the Provident Fund? (a) A sum of Rs. 17.60 lakhs has so rar been released as Central loan assistance to THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI the Government of Uttar Pradesh for T. ANJIAH) : (a) and (b). According to Ghazipur town under the Centrally the provident fund authorities, Mis. Sponsored Scheme for the Integrated Audo-Viso Corporation, New Delhi were Development of Small and Medium Towns. covered under the Employees' Provident Funds and Miscellaneous Provh.ions Act (b) The details of work being under- 1952 with effect from 1 1.1971. 1 he taken are as under :- establishment had, ho\\ ever, filed a writ petition challenging the applicability of the Work Total Cost Act and obtained stay order from the (Rs. in /akhs) Delhi High Court against enforcement of 1. Residential development the provisions of the Act and the Schemel). Scheme a t three places 54.69 Pending disposal of the petition, the establishment is reported to be regularly 2. Improvement of 5 roads 17.90 depositing the provident fund contributions in respect of its employees w.e.f. 1.1.1981. 3. Improvement of 4 roads They are not, howevel, furnishing the intersection 2.00 returns indicating the P.F. contribution in 4. Construction of shops at 6 respect of their employees to the P. F. places 51.48 authorities. 5. Construction of a slaughter (c) and (d). No such direction of the house 2.48 Delhi High Court has been received by the .. _-- Regional Provident Fund Commissioner, Total 128.55 Delhi.
(e) It may not be possible for the P. F. (c) The progress of expenditure has not authoritjes to sanction the payment of so far been furnished by the State Govern- loans/\\ithdrawals to the employees of the ment. All the works were expected to be Corporation till such time as the returns completed by 3).3.1985. indicating fuB particulars of their P. F. contribution are furnished by the employer. [ English] Grant of Scholarships to Students by {Tralls/alio11] Central Warehousing Corporation Financial Assistance for Development of Gbazipur (U.P.) 2972. SHRI M. MAHALINGAM Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL 2971. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Wi1l SUPPLIES be pleased to state: the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to slate: (a) yardstick applied by the Central Warehousing Corporation for grant of (a) the financia1 assistance given for scholarships to students for passing civi! development of Ghazipur town of Uttar engineering/agriculture degree courses from Pradesh under the Central Scheme for G. B. Pant University and Osmaniya integrated development of towns having a University, Hyderabad; populatjon below one lakh ;
(b) the details of the \\orks undertaken (b) whether the Tamil Nadu universities with that assistance; and are not selected for the purpose mentioned above; (c) the progress in regard to these works and the time by which these would (c) how lona the Central Warehousing be completed? Corporation has been impicmentiDa the 41 CHAITRA 25, 1907 (SAKA) Written A nlwera 42
above scheme and bow much expenditure Department of Irrigation, Government of had been incurred towards the scheme ; India and the Life Insurance Corporation (d) how many SCs/STs have been have also indicated that no such decision has been taken by them. benefited so far on account of the above scheme; and (b) to (d). Does not arise. Howover, the Government of Andhra Pradesh sought (e) whether any scheme exclusively for Central assistance of Rs. 49 crores during SCs/STs on the above Jines is proposed to 1984 for drinking water supply in drought be implemented by Central Warehousing affected areas. The Government of Indra Corporation ; if so, the details ? approved a ceiling of expenditure of THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Rs. 8.83 crores for this purpose. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) to (e). The Central Ware- Targets for Production of Soyabean housing Corporation started implementing During Kbartf Season the scheme for award of scholarship 2974. SHRI PRA TAP BHANU exclusively to SC /ST candidates in J 983. SHARMA : Will the Minister of AGRI- The scheme provides for grant of two CULTURE ANV RURAL DEVELOp· scholarships one each for graduation in MEN T be pleased to sta te : Agriculture and Civil Engineering. The (a) the targets of soyabean production main criteria for grant of scholarship are in different States during the kharif season (i) the annual income of the parents/ of current year ; guardian shall not exceed Rs. 12,000/- and (ii) the performance of the candidate in the (b) whether aJJ the State" have achieved first year of the course. So far only one the targets; scholarship has been awarded in Agricul- (c) if so, the details thereof; and ture, that is to an SC candidate from the G. B. Pant university. As for the Civil (d) if not, the reasons therefor? Engineering scholarship, the Corporation THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE had approached the CoJlege of Engineering, AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Guindy (Tamil Nadu), Annamalai Univer- BUTA SINGH) : (a) Plannig Commission sity (Tamil Nadu), Osmania University fixes targets for oil seeds as a group and not (Andhra Pradesh), and University of for individual oil'iceds. As such. it is not Mysore (Karnataka) for sponsoring eligible possible to furni~h the Statewise and Year- candidates. However, no response was wise targets of individual oil seeds during a received from them. 1 he expenditure particular year. However, Working Groups incurred by the Corporation under this on Agriculture and Cooperation set up in scheme is Rs. 3600/- so far. the Planning Commission to cosider the plan proposals of the States for the year Supply of Irrigation Bores in Drought Affected Areas 1984-85. had recommended the soya bean 2973. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: production targets of 9 lakh tonnes during Will the Minister of WORKS AND 1984-85 for Madhya Pradesh, which is the HOUSING be pleased to state: main soyabean producing State. For other soya bean growing States ]ike Uttar Pradesh (a) whether LIC and Works and and Rajasthan, the production targets for Housing Ministry have decided to supply total oilseeds including soya bean wert; irrigation bores in drought affected areas; recommended as 20 and 9 lakh tonnes (b) if so, the details thereof; respectively for 1984-85. (c) whether Andhra Pradesh has also (b) to (d). The estimates of production been included in that scheme; and of soya bean have been received in respect of Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan for the (d) if so, t he details of expenditure in year 1984-85 which are 7.44 lakh tonnes in this regard ? respect of Madhya Pradesh and 0.26 lakh THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND tonnes in respect of Rajasthan. The HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : production of soyabean in these States is (a) No such decision has been taken by the considerably larger than the year 1983-84. Ministry of Works and Housing. The However, thi5 production is less than the ., Written AnlWtra APRIL 15, 1985 taraets suuested by the above mentioned (c) contribu tion of different Statos in Workina Groups mainly because of the the sea-fish production in the country in adverse weather conditions prevailing during 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85, with monetary the later part of the kharif season. value and the value of the fish exported from different States of India? To be Answered on the 15th April, 1985 Marine Fishing THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE 297S. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE B UTA SIN G H) : (a) According to AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be available information, out of 21 lakhs pleased to state: marine fishermen population, about five (a) the number of sea-going fishermen lakhs are actively engaged in fishing. and the fish production ; Marine fish production in 1983-84 was about 16 lakh tonnes. The estimated (b) the length of coast I ine and marine production in 1984-85 is about 18 lakh fishery resources within 200 metre depth tonnes. zone of the continental shelf in different States of India ; and (b) and (c). A statement is enclosed. Statement
Name of the State Coa~t line Fish production in tonnes Value of Export in Km. (Rs. in Jakh) ------...... _------. 1982-83 1983-84 ] 984-85 1982-83 1983-84
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1. Andhra Pradesh 974 118034 151284 164557 3407 3159 2. Gujarat 1215 ]89988 187315 279000 1660 1861 3. Karnataka 280 116066 98410 167362 1790 1251 4. Kerala 570 325367 385275 426600 14149 14086 ~. Maharashtra 653 320433 333173 319831 4344 5775 6. Orissa 476 41400 47065 46984 1791 1653 7. Tamil Nadu 907 214769 244360 283000 3351 4150 8. West Bengal ]57 3]000 39000 36000 4334 4412 9. Goa J60 48464 50878 53711 1310 955 10. Pondicherry 31 ]3886 15843 20435 11. Andaman & Nicobar 1962 3879 3868 6226 Island 12. Lakshadweep 132 4201 4301 5331 ------Total 7517 Q. 1427487 Q.1560772(P) Q.1809037(E) 36J 36 37302 V. Rs. 468 V. Rs. 549 V. CroTes Crores ------(P) : Provisional, (E) : Estimates, Q : Quantity, V : Value (I) Marine Fishery Resources within 200 m (2) Value of Fish Produced and Fish and depth Zone estimated regionwise on the Fish Products Exported for 1984-85 basis of organic production is as are not yet available. follows: Region (In million TonnC!s) North West Coast 0.677 South West Coast 1.335 Lower East Coast 0.385 Upper East Coast 0.270
Total 2.667 4$ Wrltttn Answefl CHAITRA 25, f 907 (SAKA) Written Answer,
[Trtm.1/otion) (a) whether Government have conducted Allocation of Funds to States for any survey regarding the communities Rehabilitation of Bonded Labour and tribes which relied soJeJy on cattle raising and milk production for making a 2976. SHRI R.M. BHOYE : Will the living; Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details in this regard; (a) the amount allocated by Central and Government for the rehabilitation of bonded labour to various States in India during (c) steps Government have taken for the fast five years ; animal husbandry programmes to assist these people to improve the quality of their (b) whether concerned State Govern- cattle and increase productivi ty ? ments fully utilised these funds or diverted them for other works ; and THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (c) the names of the States which failed BUTA SINGH: (a) and (b). The Central to achieve the desired results? Council of Gosamvardhana conducted a survey on nomadi c cattle breeders in India THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI in 1956 and listed the communities/tribes T. ANJlAH) : (a) A sum of Rs. ]464.50 engaged in cattle raising and milk produc- lakhs has been released to different State tion as below: Governments as Central share of a'\~il)tance under the Centrally Sponsored Scheme for I. Yadava group: rehabilitation of bonded labourers from Ahir, Ahar, Gopi, Goshi, Gowala, 1980-81 to 1984-85. Golla, Gowari, Gaura, Kavundan and Adaiyan. (b) Out of the sum of Rs. 1464.50 lakhs reJeased, utilisation certificates are 2. Others: due for a sum of Rs. 934.80 lakh~. (Utilisa- tion certificates for Rs. 529.70 lakhs Gujar, Charan, GopaJ, (Jodi and released during 1984-85 are not yet due). Ghosi. As against the above sum of Rs. 934.80 lakhs, utili~ation certificates have been 1 he population of the migratory type of received for Rs. 554.48 lakhs and certificates breeders was reported to be concentrated for the remaining amount Df Rs. 380.32 in the arid region of ,"'estern India, the lakhs are awaited. No instance has, forests and hill ranges of Central India, however. come to the notice regarding Deccan plateau and sub mountainous region diversion of funds meant for rehabilitation of the north. These tracts are largely of bonded labourers to other programmes, unproductive where raising of crops etc. successfuHy is either uncertain or not possible. The report indicates that these (c) No State Government has failed to traditional cattle breeders in different States utilise the funds and rehabilitate the bonded have played a significant role in maintaining labourers. However, the possibility of the supply of draft cattle for agriculture some delay in the process of rehabilitation and transport needs of the regions, produced of bonded labourers cannot be ruled out as and supplied substantial quantity of ghee, rehabilitation is a time consuming process and contributed to the maintenance of the and depends upon a number of factors. soil fertility.
[English] (c) Various cattle/buffalo development programmes are being taken up in the Animal Husbandry Programmes States. Through these programmes, such 2977. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD communities and tribes, Who form sizeable SETHI : Will the Minister of AGRICUL· percentage of cattle owners are also TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT provided with services such as improved be pleased to state: breed ins, health coverage and milk 47 APRIL 15. 1985 Wrltte" AIfIW,.. 48
markotiDl facilities. Under Integrated (c) the steps taken by Government to . Rural Development Programme/Special increase the productivity of rice (Paddy) in Livestock Production Programme, the our country and the resu Its achieved so far? ceiling on subsidy admissible for tribal farmers belonging to sma 11 and marginal THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE farmers categories has been enhanced from AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Rs. 3000/- to Rs. 5000/- per beneficiary. It BUTA SINGH) : (a) The per hectare has also decided that under this programme yields of paddy in India along with at least 30 per cent families selected for comparabJe yield Jevels in China, Pakistan, assistance should be from Scheduled Castes Japan and Asia during "1983 (corresponding and Scheduled Tribes group. to 1983-84 for India) are as given below :
Flutioa of Milk Price on the Basis Yield of R.ice (Paddy) of Cost of Production (Kg/ha) 2978. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: 1983 Wnl the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT ~ India 2185 pleased to state : China 5067 (a) whether there is any system of Pakistan 2579 fixina the milk prices based on cost of Japan 5701 production ; and Asia 3197
(b) if not, how are they fixed at (b) The reasons for low productivity of present? paddy in India, inter-alia, include :
THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (i) Inadequate irrigation coverage, AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI particularly in Eastern States ; BUTA SINGH) : (a) and (b) All the dairy plants in the public/cooperative sector in the (i i) Low application of fertilisers and country except Delhi M ilk Scheme and the plant protection measures ; Mother Dairy, Delhi are owned and operated by the State Governments/State spon~ored (iii) Small size of holdings particularly agencies. Delhi Milk Scheme and Delhi in the Eastern States which inhibits Mother Dairy procure their milk require· adoption of modern technology; ments through the State Dairy Develop· ment Cooperative Federations in the (IV) Low productivity levels in the adjoining States. The dairy plants fix the Eastern States due to physical prices of milk on the basis of prevailing environment (water regimes, agro- market prices of milk and ghee/other milk climatic factors, problem soils, etc.) products. and the lack of suitable technology- particularly availability of modern Average Yield per Hectare of Paddy in varieties capable of withstanding India and Other Countries problematic environments, etc. 2979. iHRI V. SOBHANADREES- WARA RAO : Will the Minister of (c) The steps taken by the Government AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVE- to increase the productivity of rice (Paddy), LOPM ENT be pleased to state: inter-alia, include : (i) Increase in irrigated area under the (a) the average yield per hectare of crop; rice (Paddy) crop in India and how it compares with the yield per hectare in (ii) Increased use of HYV and certified China, Pakistan, Japan, Asia during seeds; 1983-84 ; (iii) Efficient water manaaement and ensuring availability of water at (b) the reasons for low yield per hectare critical stages of transplantationl riee (Paddy) in our country ; and crop 8fowth. Wrltte" AJUWr, CHArraA ,25. 19Q7 (SA,K.A) Wrltl. A,,.,.,,erl
(iv) Increased application of fertiliser. ; SINOH): (8) The proposal to permit and nced·based use of micro- use of solvent extracted mustard oil in the nutrients; manufacture of vanaspati is enlaling the attention of the Government. (v) Adequate plant protection measures; (b) Experiments conducted in the past (vi) Development of technology suitable have shown that normal hexane, the solvent for problematic areas; used for extraction of oil, is moderately toxic. Therefore, in terms of the provi- (vii) Launching of a special rice produc.. sions under the Prevention of FOod Adul. tion programme in Eastern States. teration Act, 1954, mustard/rapeseed oil This includes land development, obtained by solvent extraction shall be efficient use of irrigation potential. supplied for human consumption only if it improvement of drainage, creation is refined. of infrastructural facilities, etc. in selected blocks in these States. (c) to (e) . If the use of solvent extracted mustard/rapeseed oil is allowed, a quantity (viii) Adoption of appropriate pricing of about 10,000 MT may be available for and procurement policies. vanaspati manufacture which is too meagre to have any impact on the prices of vanas· As a result of the various measures pati. taken, the productivity of rice (Paddy) has increased from 1962 kgs/ha in 198 J -82 to Organization of Krishi Vigyan Meta 2185 kgs/ha in 1983-84. 298i. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Use of Mustard 011 in Vanaspati RURAL DEVELOPMEMT be pleased to Manufacture state : 2980. SHRI SANAT KUMAR (a) whether Government had organised MANDAL: Will the Minister of FOOD Krishi Vigyan Mela in Delhi recently; AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (b) if so, number of farmers invited from different States, State-wise; (a) whether Government have taken or propose to take a decision to permit use of (c) whether Government plan to have solvent extracted mustard oil in the manu- such melas and training centres in the rural facture of vanaspati as a part of their efforts areas also; to cut down the mounting import bill of edibJe oils ; (d) the steps being taken to train and educate the farmers about biogas plants, (b) whether any research or experiments solar cells and ~olar cookers ; have been conducted about the use of this oil for direct human consumption without (e) whether any such training centre or proper refining or after refining; if so, its Krishi Mela is going to be organised in findings; North Bengal;
(c) the estimated qU'intity of such oil (f) if so, by what time and details which will ·be used in vanaspati manufac- thereof ; and ture ; (g) if not, the reasons thereof? (d) whether its use will lead to reduc- tion in its price; and THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (e) if so, the anticipated fall ? BUTA SINGH): (8) Yes, Sir. Pusa Krisbi Vigyan Mela was held at the Indian THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Agricultural Research Institute, New Delhi CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA from 13th to l'th March, 1~5. 51 APRIL IS. 1985 . Written ~1I$W'" 52
(b) Intimations in writing were sent to solar cell and soJar cooker bas been assian· officials as well as to non-official organisa- ed to Department of Non- conventional tions throushout the country such as State Energy Sources which is the apex body for Departments of Agriculture, Agricultural this purpose. Universities, farmers' organisations like Bharat I< riahak Sarnaj etc. In addition, (e) Government has no such proposal the farmers were informed through the at present. mass media such as «Doordarshan' , AII (f) Does not arise. India Radio and leadina daily newspapers. both in Hindi and English. The details of (3) The State Department of Agricul- farmers who attended the Krishi Vigyan ture, West Bengal and the Local Agricul- Mela from the diff~rent States are given tural University are mainly responsible for below:- organising such training centre/Kri~hi Melas in the State. 1. Union Territory of Delhi 441 2. Uttar Pradesh 244 DDA's Self Financing Project 3. Bihar 48 at Mall Road, Delhi 4. H,ryana 247 2982. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY s. Rajasthan 74 Will the Mirtister of WORKS AND 6. Madhya Pradesh 187 HOUSING be pleased to state: 7. Tamil Nadu 46 8. Jammu & Kashmir 2 (a) for how 10ng the construction work 9. Punjab )6 at DDA's Self Financing Project at MaJl 10. Gujarat 14 Road, Delhi ha~ been at standstill ; 11. Orissa J 12. Maharashtra 10 (b) the reasons which led the DDA 13. West Bengal 12 not to complete the project within the stipu- lated period; Total 1342 (c) the probable date of completion of the project; and (c) Yes, Sir. In order to transfer the technology to farmers and farm women (d) how the allottees are to be com- specially, under Krishi VJgyan Kendra and pensated as they have paid 90 per cent Lab to Land Programme, \maJl-scaJe field price of the flats till September, 1983 and days-cum-Knshi Vlgyan Melas are being were legal1y entitled to get the possession organised in the rural areas. Recently of the Rats in August 1984 ? such Krishi Vigyan Me)as were held at village Shikohpur-RamplIra in Gurgaon THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND District of Haryana on 5th March, 1985 HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : and another at IARI Regional Station, (a) and (b). The construction work re- Karnal, Haryana on 22nd March, 1985. In mained standstill for about 41 months, the future also Government proposes to orga- time taken in recinding the previous con- nise more and more Kri~hi Vigyan Melas tract and awarding the balance work to at different places in the country. another contractor. This alongwith the slow execution work by the previous con- (d) As a part of IA RI demonstration- tractor is mainly responsible for the delay. cum-extension education programme, a few famny size biogas plants have been installed (c) The work is likely to be completed in adopted villages under the Oper.ational by December. 1985. Research Project. Advi-;ory services and enquiries are being handled by the Divi- (d) Interest @ 7 % on the amount sions of Soil Scien~ and Agricultural deposited become~ payable by D DA for the
Chemistry of IARl t New Delhi as and period beyond 2i years from the date(s) on when such requests are received. However. which their applications were accepted by the main responsibility for training and DDA, till the date(s) the flats are comple- education of farmers for bio-Ias plant. ted. . Wrlttsn ""'WI" CHAITRA 25" 1907 (SAIeA) Ja.... A ....tance for De,eIopment of PIaDeIal Assiltanee to States' Untoa Small Seale FlDerlea Territories for PromotJaa House to Poor People 2983. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: 2984. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- Will th9 Minister of AGRICULTURE ASHAR Will the Minister of WORKS AND AND ~URAL DEVELOPMENT be HOUSING be pleased to state: pleased to state : (a) the amount of financial assistance (a) the total amount of cash grant given by Union Government to Himachal given by Japanese Government for develop- Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, ment of sman scale fisheries; Haryana and the Union Territories of Chandigarh and Delhi for providing houses (b) the States and the Central Insti- to the houseless rural/urban poor during tutes that are to benefit out of this grant; the last three financial years 1982 .. 85 ; and (b) whether it has been ascertained (c) the proposed outlay for each of that the amount so granted has been pro- these States and the Central Institutes '1 perly utilized by each of the States/Union Territories; and THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (c) if so, the total number of houseless BUTA SINGH): (a) 410 million poor people benefited in the rural/urban areas in each States/Union Territory dueing this Japanese Yen. period, separately for each year? (b) The States and Central Institutes THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND which are to benefit are: Orissa, Gujarat, HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): Tamil Nadu, West Bengal and Kerala; (a) to (c). Housing is a State subject. Central Institute of Fisheries Nautical and Within their approved plan outlays State Engineering Training and Fishery Survey of Government/Union Territories are ftee to India. formulate and implement vaPious social housing schemes in accordance with their (c) As per the contract signed with the needs and plan priorities. Central financial Japanese supplier, the CIF cost of machines assistance for all State sector programmes and equipment for each of the States and is given in the shape of 'block loans' and the Central Institutes is as follows :- 'block grants' without being tied to any head of development, scheme or project. S. State No. of Total elF Targets for Procurement of Wbeat No. Machines cost in and Rice Japanese Yen 2985. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN wm the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 1. Orissa 4 68,500,000 2. Gujarat 4 68,400,000 (a) the target for procurement of rice 3. Tamil Nadu 4 68,250,000 and wheat in the different States during 1980-8 J to 1984-85 ; 4. West Bengal 1 17,150,000 s. Kerala 6 102,750,000 (b) how far these targets were achie. 6. Central Institute of ) ved; Fisheries Nautical ) and Engineering ) 84,900,000 (c) what was the target and actual pro- Training ) curement as percentage to the total pro- 7. Fishery Survey of ) duction of the crops in the States ; and India ) (d) State·wise break-up of (a), (b) and (c) above? Written A"swers, APRIL 1$, It85
THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : SINGH): (a) to (d). Statewise targets (a) Yes Sir. Some donor countries like of procurement were fixed for 1980-81 Denmark, Netherlands and E.E.C. are wheat crop only (markc ted in 1981-82 sea- providing assistance for rural water supply son). The details are given in the Statements schemes. The World Health Orianisation laid on the Table of the House [Placed in however provides assistance only for support Library, See. No. L T-924/851 activities like training, consultancy and supply of eQ.uipment. [Trans/ationJ (b) The UNICEF is extending assistance Setting up of Doordarshan Relay Centre for gravity feeder rural water supply at Banswara schemes in the hilly areas of M izoram mainly by supply of pipes. 2986. SHRI PRABHU LAL RAWAT: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND Regularisatlon of Graduate Employees in DDA BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 2988. SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will (a) whether Government have a propo- the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING sal to set up a Doordarshan relay centre in be pleased to sta te : BanswarajDoongarpur ; (a) whether a number of graduates and (b) if so, the time by which it is likely post graduates employed in the various to start functioning; and divisions of the Delhi Development Authority as Beldars and Khalasis on daily (c) if not, the reasOl,S therefor? wage/work charged basis have been working as clerks in the absence of duly appointed THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE clerks, for several years ; MINISTRY OF INFORMATION I\ND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): (b) if so, the number of such persons (a) and (b). There is no approved proposal who have been working in various establish· as yet to set up a relay transmitter at ments of DDA for the last three years; BanswarajDoongarpur. (c) whether DDA have already absorbed (c) Provision of TV service to uncovered a number of contract clerks/field surveyors parts of the country, including Banswara as regular clerks ; and Doongarpur will depend on the actual availability of resources for TV expansion (d) whether on similar grounds, Govern- during future Plan period.;. ment had under consideration the question to regularise the services of such graduates [English] and post-graduates as clerks against regular vacancies; if so, the decision taken in this Water Supply Scheme in HUt Areas regard; and 2987. SARI LAL DUHOMA: Will (e) the number of posts of clerks and the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING equivalent cadres lying vacant in the DDA be pleased to state: as on 31 December 1984 and 31 March, (a) whether water supply scheme for 1985 ? rural areas undertaken with the assistance THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND of foreign countries and World Health HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : Organisation can be taken up in hill arcas ; (a) Yes, Sir. and
(b) if so, whether introduction of such (b) 97 persons. schemes will be taken up by his Ministry in Mizoram where there is a chronic scarcity (c) Yes, Sir. 466 field surveyors/clerks of drinkina water 1 ha ve been resularised as L. D. CSt cHAtTRA is, 1901 (SAKA) Written An,wers
"(d) and (e). No, Sir. 328 posts of clerks (iv) A number of cyclone shelters have were lying vacant on 31 st December, 1984 been set up in the cyclone affected and 240 on 31st March, 1985. Some of areas. these posts are to be filled by SC/ST candidates &, for the remaining, a depart- In addition. a new scheme known as mental test is proposed to be held shortly. Disaster \Varning Service using INSAT Communication System is being currently Cyclone Deaths introduced to warn the coastal population directly in the event of a cyclone, initially 2(;~;9. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: along the North TarnH-Nadu and South Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Andhra Coasts. Two additional cyclone AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be detection radars are proposed to be installed pJeased to state: on the West Coast at Bhuj and Cochin. A number of automatic weather recording (a) the number of cyclone deaths equipment known as Data .Collection reported in the country during the last two Platforms over the coastal and sea areas years; and around India are being set up in the near future. (b) steps Government propose to take in future to save the peopJe in cyclone Misuse Charges Claimed from tbe affected areas ? Bhartiya KaJa Kendra
THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE 2990. SHRI D. P. Y ADA V : Will the AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI' Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be BUTA SINGH) : (a) Information with pleased to refer to repJy given to Unstarred regard to the number of deaths caused Question No.2373 on 12 March, 1984 exclusively due to cyclones in the country regarding misuse charges claimed from the is not available. However, as per the Bhartiya Kala Kendra and state: reports of the States/Union Territories, the total number of deaths caused due to (a) details of the misuse during the floods/cyclones in the country during 1983 period 17 February, 1978 to 23 February, and 1984 were, 2377 and 1577 respectively. 1983 for which a sum of Rs. 12040 has been claimed from the Bhartiya Kala Kendra; (b) The Government have taken a number of steps for cyclone warning and (b) the basis on which the amouDt of protection of the people from cyclones, Rs. 31,555.05 has been arrived at ; some of which are indicated below :- (c) the progress made in the recovery (i) The Indian Meteorological Depart- of Rs. 10,91,103 which were claimed from ment has a two stage warning the Gandharva Mahavidyalaya as early as system. 5 June 1984 ; and
(ii) There are three area cyclone war- (d) whether misuse charges from similar ning centres at Calcutta, Madras other cultural organisations will also be and Bombay and two cyclone claimed on the same basis on which they warning centres at Bhubaneswar have been claimed from the Bhartiya Kala and Visakhapatnam for issuing the Kendra? cyc]one warning to coastal popu- lation through All India Radio, THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND State Government Officials, Port HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): Trusts and other agencies. (a) The misuse charges have been claimed for renting out the 1st floor of Bhardya' (iii) There are eight cyclone detection Kala Kendra to Kathak Kendra Institution. radars at Calcutta, Paradip, Visl1khapatnam, Machilipatnam, (b) On the basis of 10% of the gfOSS Madras, Karaikal, Bombay and rent being received by the Bhartiya Kala Goa. Kendra. W,ltten An.fwers APktL 1~, 198$
(c) The representation of Oandharav sqm. for fifth year and Rs. 4/- per sqm. Mabavidyalaya against the demand letter of for sixth year onwards. If the construction 5.6.84 has been rejected. The Institution is not completed within a period of 10 have been served with 15 days' notice on years, 50% of the cost of the plot is charged 1.4.85 for payment of the amount claimed. as additional penalty. Thereafter, the cases could be considered for determina- (d) Yes, Sir, if the nature of misuse is tion/cancellation of leases of the plots with similar. the approval of the Lieutenant Governor, Delhi. Allotment of Vacant Plots to Other Needy Persons Role of Clasa in Ollseeds
2991. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: 2992. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: WiIJ Will the Minister of WORKS AND the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND HOUSING be pleased to state: RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : (a) whether certain plots of land out of those allotted in 1975-76 through draw of (a) whether Governmellt have seen a lots by Delhi Development Authority in write up entitled "The Seeds of Prosperity" Maurya Enclave are still lying vacant ; appearing in "SPAN" of February, 1985 and if so, what views they hold on opinions (b) if so, the details of stich vacant expressed concerning edible oil imports plots of land in various pockets ; into India, role of CLUSA and its officers and the outcome so far; (c) The reasons for which the allottees have been allowed to keep them vacant ; (b) what research efforts Government and have supported from 19M2 to increase oilseeds production and what bas been the (d) whether any proceedings have been outcome; and initiated to cancel the allotment of these plots and allot them to other needy (c) State-wise, year-wise aJJocation of persons? gifted edible oil from 1982 upto 1 st March, 1985, its value, funds generated from its THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND sales and also extent of its utilisation vis-a- HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : vis reasons for any shortfall in utilisation ? (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (b) 542 plots are lying vacant in Maurya AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Enclave (Pitam Pura). The details of the BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Govern- vacant plots and the names of allottees are ment has seen the write-up entitled "The given in the Statement laid on the table of Seeds of Prosperity" published in 'SPAN' the House. [Placed in Library, See No. of February, 1985. The article highlights L T -925/85]. the role of National Dairy Development Board's (NDDB) Oilseeds Project being (c) and (d). As per the terms and implemented with the assistance of Coope- conditions of the Lease Deed, Jessees are rative League of U.S.A. (CLUSA) and allowed a period of two years from the Cooperative Union of Canada (CUC) for date of taking over possession of the plots, increasing the oilseeds production. The for completing construction thereon. One oilseeds development programme including more year is also allowed as grace period. the oilseeds project implemented by the As such no penalty on account of non- NDDB with assistance from CLUSA and construction is charged for the initial period CUC are helping to increase the oilseeds of three years from the date of taking over production. Under tbe NDDBts Oilseeds possession of the plot. Thereafter exten- Project. the oilseed produce of tbe farmers sion of period is allowed on payment of is purchased by their cooperatives at a fair the prescribed penalty at the rate of Rs. 2/- price. inputs like seed and fertilisers are per sqm. for the fourth year, Rs. 3/- per supplied timely to the farmers and the field 6* Written AIUWfra CHAITRA 2$, 1~7 (SAKA) Written AH6Wers staff carryon intensive extension work. All techniques hold potential for increasing the these activities broadly help oilseed grower production of olJSt cds. As a result of the members of the cooptrative societies to resvarch and developmental efforts along- increase the production of oHsecds. with good wcath:r conditions the production of oilseeds has il,crcased to a level of 128.1 (b) The Indian Council of Agricultural Research h,'s continuously helped to lakh tonnes in 1983·84 from a level of 100 increase oilseeds production through systc- lakh tonnes in J982·83. ~atic research by takiI g up a number of (c) The State-wise and Year-wise sales rC"i 1 rch programmes. As a result of these of giftc.d edible oil made to the cooperative efforts, a number of improved varieti(s of federations in different States by the NDDB oilseed crops have been evolved. All from 1982-83 to 3 J . ] .1985 are given these varieties with suitable production below:-
(thousand to ml s) Year Gujarat Madhya Pradesh Tamil Nadu Andhr.t Pradesh Orissa 1982-83 RSBO 11.48 4.05 2.86 0.19 0.86 eRSO 4.]7 1983-84 RSBO J 1.31 4.75 2.46 2.32 1.96 CRSO 12.93 058 0.25 RRO 0.26 0.77 0.06 0.03 0.03 1984-85 RSBO 2.32 0.52 1.06 1.35 1.41 CRSO 0.01 RRO 3.81 1.98 0.73 0,(}3 0.03 RSBO-Rdined Soya bean Oil eRSO-Crude Rapeseed Oil RRO --Refined Rapeseed Oil The funds generated from sale of gift edible oil from 1982-83 to 31.1.1985 are given below: (Rs. in crores) Year Refined Soya bean Crude Rapeseed Total Oil Oil
'1982-83 18.855 11.683 30.538 1983-84 26.005 9.048 35.053 1984-85 10.568 6.773 17.341 The disbursement of funds to the cooperative federation in different States from inception of the programme in the States upto 31.1.1985 is as follows :._ (Rs. in crores) State Total funds disbursed *
Gujarat 34.22 Madhya Pradesh 7.23 Tamil Nadu 1.18 Andhra Pradesh 2.36 Orissa 2.61 Maharashtra 1.17 Kamataka 0.09 Central Action Items 10.S1
59.37
·Excludes procurement support loan, working capital advance etc. amountin, to Rs. S2.40 crores makins the. total disbursement to Rs-. 111.17 crores. APRIL 1$ 198~
Review of the Worklna of the JOUl"llllHsts funds in the Seventh Plan for drinkina water supply prosramme and include 2993. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : the Will the Minister of INFORMATION same in the core sector ? AND BROADCASTING be pleased to THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND state: HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) whether Government propose to The provision for drinking water supply programme to be made in the Seventh Five review the working of journalists in dis- charging their duties; and Year Plan has not yet been finalised. Keeping in view the nationally accepted (b) if so, the details in this regard and targets for 'International Drinking Water if not, whether Government have received Supply and Sanitation Decade' , overall any memorandum in this regard ? availability of resources and related priori- ties, due priority will be given to drinking water supply programme. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND [Trans/ation] BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): (a) No, Sir. Suney undertaken by International Labour Organisation for Transfer of Technology (b) Does not arise. No memorandum has been received in 2996. SHRI KRISHAN PRATAP this regard. SINGH: Will the Ministers of LABOUR be pleased to state : (Trans/ation] (a) whether according to a survey under- Proposal to Build "Indira Tower" taken by International Labour Organisation 2994. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI recently there is apprehention of increased SHAKTAWAT : Will the Minister of incidence of accidents and diseases due to WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to unrestricted transfer of technology to the state: developing countries; and
(a) whether there is a proposal to build (b) if so, the steps taken or proposed 'Indira Tower' in Connaught Place, New to be taken by Government to restrict the Delhi in memory of Shrimati Indira Gandhi transfer of technology, especially in view for the development of tourism and if so, of the recent las tragedy in Bhopal? the details thereof ; THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI (b) how the services rendered by Mrs. T. AN~IAH): (a) There is a reference Indira Gandhi will be inscribed thereon to such an apprehension in the World and the estimated expenditure to be Labour Report-2 by way of a general obser- incurred thereon ; and vations based on experience.
(c) the time by which this Tower is (b) The technology policy statement of likely to be constructed? the Government issued in January, 1983 con tains guidelines on transfer of techno- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND logy. HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (g) No, Sir. Allocation of Fuods to U.P. for Modernisation of Sugar MJlls (b) and (c). Do not arise. 2997. SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA : [Eng/ishJ Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Funds for Drinking Water Supply Progra mme 299.5. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER (a) whether Uttar Pradesh Government JAIN : Will the Minister of WORKS AND have asked for money from the SUlar HOUSING be pleased to state whether Development Fund for the modernitation Central Government will provide more of au.pr mUla j CHAITIlA 25, lt07 (SAXA) ""Itten ..4118tPera
(b) if so, the amount 0 f money asked Labour Employment Guarantee Proaranulle; for the time by which it is likely to be made available; (b) the number of rural labourers bene- fited under this programme ; and (0) tbe amount Government have deci. ded to sanction; and (c) the phase-wise pJanning for such projects? (d) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DE· THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND PARMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR) : SINGH): (a) No, Sir. (a) to (c). The projects that helve been submitted by Orissa Government and (b) to (d). Do not arise. approved under the Rural Landless Em- ployment Guarantee Programme are indi- [English) cated in the attached statement aJoDgwith Projects under RLEGP undertaken the details regarding the approved cost and by Orissa expected year of completion of the pro- jects. However, employment generation 2998. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : under the programme, is, at present, being Will the' Minister of AGRICULTURE monitored in terms of the mandays of & RURAL DEVELOPMENT bc pleased employment generated and not in terms of to state: number of rural labourers provided with employment under the programme. The (a) the projects that have been under- employment generation reported upto taken by Orissa Government under Rural February, 1985 is 31.55 lakh mandays. Statement RURAL LANDLESS EMPLOYMENT GUARANTEE PROGRAMME List 01 projects app,.oved under RLEGP in O,.issa
81. Name of the project Amount sanctioned Year of comple- No. by the Central tion of project Committee according to (Rs. in lakhs) project report
1. Soil & Water Conservation in 4 districts, viz., Ganjam, Puri, Cuttack and Balasore. 21.00 1984-8'
2. Construction and improvement of rural Ilnk roads and rural roads in all districts of Orissa. 116.87 1983-84
3. Social forestry~ construction and improvement of forest roads and excavation of nursery tanks in. 4 districts viz., Koraput, Kalahandi, Sundersarh and Phulbani. 20.00 1984-8S
4. Construction of public tubewells and river lift irrigation projects in 13 districts, viz., Balasore, Bolangir, Cuttack. Dhonkanj, Ganjam, Kala- handi, Keonjhar, Koraput, Mayur- bhunj, Phulbani, Puri. Sambalpur and Sunderaarh. 274.43 1984-85 Written An,wtr.\' APRiL 1~. t9.~
. 5. Construction of school buildJnss for primary schools. 38.93 1983·84
6. Construction/improvement of link roads in 9 districts of Orissa (Phase-II) 850.22 1984-85
7. Cheak irrigation in 3 districts of Orissa. 244.67 1985-86
8. Soil conservation works in Orissa. 600.00 1984-85
9. Construction of primary school buildings. 915.98 1984-85
10. Renovation and improvement of tanks in the Command Area of SaIki irrigation prC'ject (Disstt . Phulbani). 12.91 1984-8S
11. Development of Ekmana Kanal Watershed. 31.97 1986-87
12. Providing communication facilities over river and canal banks. 465.00 ]985-86
Non-Recognition of B. Sc. Degree of sities. It is also not responsible for pro- Sri Venkatelwara U 0 '"ersity by moting agricultural education in the Tradi- I. C. A. R. tional (General) Universities because agricultural Universities have been esta- 2999. SHRI P. PENCHALAIAH blished specifically for this purpose. The Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Andhra Pradesh Agricultural University AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be has exclusive jurisdiction in terms of agri- pleased to state : cultural education, research and extension in the State of Andhra, Pradesh. (a) whether B Sc. Degree with the group C.D.Z. (Chemistry, Dairy Science, (b) In view of the reply to part (a) Zoolcgy) of Shri Vcnkateswara University above, the question of the ICAR recog- has been recognised by I.C.A.R. ; nising the B.Sc. degree of Sri Venkateswara University does not arise. (b) if not, the reaSons thereof; and (c) Kurukshetra University has the (c) whether B.Sc. graduates with the power to recognise degrees of various Uni- above grcup ~re denied admission to versities, with which leAR has to conClrn. M.Sc. Degree Course (Dairy Science) in However, Kurukshetra Univusity has a Kurukshetra University just because this set of rules governing admission to v2rious group is not rcccgniscd by I C.A.R. instructional programmes leaditg to B.Sc. Dairying/M.Sc. Dairying/Ph.D. Degrees. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE It is upto Kurukshetra University to corsi- &. RlIRAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI der the B.Sc. (Pure Science) degree' of BUTA SINGH): (a) The leAR has Venkateswara University equivalent to that no authority to grant recognition to the of Kurukshetra University for purpose of dearees awarded by the various Univer- admission to its. various prolrammes. WrJ lien Answers CHAITRA 2S. 1907 (SAKA) Written AlUwets 7.0
Central Grant to Madbya Pradesh and ments of Orissa and Madhya Pradesh Ort_ for RebabUltatlon of Bonded respectively as Central share of srant for Labour rehabilitation of bonded labourers since the 3000. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK : inception of the scheme in 1978-79. Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: Air Station in Tirupatbl 3001. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: WHJ (a) whethrf Orissa and Madhya Pra- the Minister of INFORMATION AND desh have rccdvcd fun Central grant for BROADCASTING be pleased to state: the reh",b.litatit'n of bonded labour; (a) whether there is any proposal to (b) if so, whether the said amount is start AU India Radio Station in Tirupathi sufficient for their welfare and rehabili- and tation ; (b) if so, when?
(c) if so, the details in this regard; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTERY OF lNFORMATION AND (d) whether additional demand has also BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL) : been made by Orissa Government in this (a) In the approved 6th Plan, there was regard ? no proposal to set up a AIR station at Tirupathi. The VII Five Year Plan propo- THE MlNISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI sals are not yet finalised. T. ANJIAH): (a) to (d). As per the procedure in vogue, the proposals for reha- (b) Does not arise. bilitation of bonded labourers are screened and sanctioned by the State Governments. [ Trallslation] Thereupon, the State Government has to Setting up of Higb Security Diseases release the State share of assistance and, Laboratory in Bhopal based on that, the Central share of assis- 3002 SHRI DILEEP SINGH tance is released. The release of funds for BHURIA: Will the Minister of AGRI- a district is, howcver, conditional upon CUL1URE AND RURAL DEVELOP- receipt of utilisation certificates for the MEN T be pleased to state : grants released for that district in the pre.. vious years. All the Central grants for (a) whether Asia's first High Security the rehabilitation of bonded labourers have Diseases Laboratory, having arrangements been released to the Governments of Orissa for the diagonosis of various cattle diseases and Madhya Pradesh against their admis- is bejng set up ncar Bhopal in Madhya sible proposals. Pradesh with the assistance of Central Government ; The ceiling limit of rehabilitation assis- tance prescribed under the Centrally Spon- (b) whether preparatory work has been sored Scheme for rehabilitation of bonded done and land acquired for the purpose; labourers is Rs. 4,000/- per bonded labourer, which is shared equally by the State (c) whether Indian Council of Agricul· Government and the Central Governm~nt. tural Research is yet to take action in this Both the Governments of Orissa and regard; and Madhya Pradesh have been generally spen- ding at the rate of Rs. 4,000/- per bonded (d) if so, the time by which leAR is labourer for their rehabilitation under this likely to take action in this regard? scheme. The Government of Orissa has, however, integrated the scheme with the THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE State's own scheme of •Economic Rehabili- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI tation of Rural Poor' for augmenting the BUTA SINOH): (a) Yes t Sir. A Higb quantum of rehabilitation assistance. Security Disease Laboratory is being esta- blished by the Indian Council of Agricul- So far, Rs. 547.29 lakhs and Rs. 21.58 tural Research with UNDP assistance at lakhs hate boon relealed to the Govern- Bhopal. Written Answers APRIL Is, 198~ Written AlUwers
(b) Yes. Sir. The project has been 3. Shahdol 5 Beohari, Jaisinghnagar, cleal ed by the Planning Commission and Sohagpur, Pushparaj- other associated agencies. The legal for- garh, Bandhangarh. malities to acquire the land are being pro- cessed for completion. 4. Dhar 8 Bagh, Bakner, Dahl, Gandhwani, Kukehi, (c) and (d). The Indian Council of Agrj .. Marwar, Nisarpur, ~ultural Research took action sometime back Sardarpur. to appoint an Officer-on-Special Duty to develop the infrastructural facilities for the S. Sidhi 8 Chitrangi, Deosar, establishment of the laboratory. As per Kushmi, Majhauli, the advice of the Department of Economic Ranpur, Sinawal, Affairs the project has been included in Sidhi, Waidhan. Country Programme III beginning from 6. Betul 8 Amla, Betul, Bhimpur, April, 1985. Ghoradongari, Multai. Prabhatpattan, Shan- [English 1 pur, Chicholi. Implementation of DPAP in Madhya Pradesh 48 Blocks
3003. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE & (b) During the Sixth Plan central assis- RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to tante amounting to Rs. 1376.62 lakhs bas state: been given to the State of tvladhya Pradesh for implementing the programme. (a) the drought prone areas identified by the Centre in Madhya Pradesh; (c) The major activities taken up under the programme during the Sixth Plan reJa- (b) the amount of Central assistance ted to creation of irrigation potential, soil provided to Madhya Pradesh to implement and moisture conservation measures, fores- Drought Prone Areas Programme during try including pasture development and the Sixth Plan period ; and livestock development, including dairy development. (c) the details of the 010ught Prone Areas Programme launched in Madhya Details of expenditure under major sec- Pradesh during Sixth Plan period? tors and physical achievements during the Sixth Plan are given in attached statement. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF R'URAL DEVELOP- Statement MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRA- KAR) : (a) 48 blocks in 6 districts of the DROUGHT PRONE ARbAS PRO- State have been identified as drought prone. GRAMME IN MADHYA PRADESH They are as under : I. Expenditure statement SI. District No. of Name of Blocks No. Blocks 51. Sector Expendi ture (1980-81 No. to December, 1984) 1. Khargone 7 Thikari, Rr.jpur, Pati, Bhagwanpura, Zirnia, (R.J. in la1chs) Bhikangaon, Barwani. 2. Jhabua 12 Alirajpur. Bbabra, 1. Agriculture 178.23 Jhabua, Jobat, Katbi- wara, Maghnagar, 2. Irrigation 769.96 PetJawad, Rama, 3. Forestry & Pasture 97S.81 Ranapur, Sendhw8, Thandla, Udai&arh. 4. Animal Husbander 13~.Q2 13 CHAITBA 25, 1907 (SAKA)
II ( Phylietll achievemen,1I uDder.developed aDd least developed States. Measures to reduce imbalances relate to Sl. ICey Indicator Achievement (1980-8 1 provision of more liberal nnancial No. to December, 1984) assistance, technical assistance and consultancy services. The pattern of Anan", cial assistance includes low rates of interest. 1. Soil & moisture con- longer morator,ium and higher quaatum in servation (000 heet.) 17.568 terms of percentage of project cost. 2. Irrigation potential Cooperatives for scheduled castes, tribals, created (000 hect.) 156.119 fishermen and other weak.er sections receive special treatment. A more liberal paUerQ 3. Forestry and pasture of assistance is applicable to certain hiUy development (000 hect.) 30.817 and difficult areas of developed States as 4. Milk societies set up well. NCDC's support is provided on (Nos.) 262 project basis.
S. Sheep societies set (c) The States are identified as coopera.. up (Nos.) 2 tively under-developed or least de"elopod 6. Employment genera- after taking into account: ted (000 man days) 13423 (i) the level of agricultural develop- ment ; NCDC'. Plans to Remove Regional Imbalances in Co-operative Infrastructure Oi) the strength or weakness of the 3004. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will cooperative infrastructure; and the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to (iii) the adequacy of institutional credit state: for development.
(a) a whether NCDC has plan to give (d) Uttar Pradesh has been classified priority to remove regional imbalances in as a cooperatively developed State. the creation of co-operative infrastructure; However, cooperatives in the notified hilly and remote areas of the State come within (b) the norms for giving priority to the purview of the scheme. remove imbalances; Increase In indigenous production of (c) the criteria of selecting the States; Palm Oil and 3005. SHRI D.P. JADEJA: Will the (d) whether U.P. has been covered in Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES this scheme ? be pleased to state :
THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (a) the steps being taken by Govern- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ment to step up production of palm oil in DUrA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. India in view of the vast import of this commodity; (b) With a view to reducing the gap and rectifying the imbalances in the field of (b) the details of measures being taken cooperative development, NCDC has been to increase growth of palm plantations in implem¢nting the scheme to speed up the India; development of cooperative marketing, processing, storage etc. in the cooperatively (c) the areas which arc receiving under-developed States/Union Territories. emphasis for this crop; and The States/Union Territories have been classified for the purpose into three catego-- (d) the present local availability of the ries, namely cooperativelf d~veloped, raw material ? W,itten IIn1Wtrl APlIL 15, 1985 Wrltt~n Aft,."., 76'
THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND (c) whether an assessrnent of housing CIVIL SUPPLIES (ltAO BIRENDRA shortage has also been made by Govern- SINO H): (a) to (d). The Government of ment ; lndia has identified Andaman & Nicobar Islands and Keral. as the potential areas (d) If so, the details thereof; and for cultivation of palm 'trees. Two projects, one in Rerala and the other in Andaman & (e) the measures taken by Government Nicobar Islands spread over 6,000 and 2,400 for easy availability of construction mate- hectares respectively are a t present under rhlls at reasonable cost? implementation. Some coastal areas of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Tamil THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Nadu are also being exploited. The HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): quantity of oil so far extracted in Andaman (a) and (b). The need for increase in I: Nieobar Islands during 1983-84 is 39.30 housing fir~ancc has been accepted and Kilo Litres. The crude oil produced by outlays for the Seventh Five Year Plan Oil Palm India Ltd. which is implementing are yet to be finalised. the project in Kerala during the year 1983- 84 is 195.16 MTs. (c) and (d). As per the estimates made by National Buildings Organisation (NBO) Rules for Accredition of Correspondents on the basis of the Census data, the cur- 3006. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : rent housing shortage in terms of dwelling Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND units is as foHows :- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (in millions) (a) whether Government propose to relax URBAN RURAL TOTAL the rules, for central accrcdition of corres- pondents of Delhi working for small news- 5.9 18.8 24.7 papers and newspapers for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes ; (e) Some of the important measures are as follows :- (b) if so, details thereof ; and (i) steps to increase the production of (c) if not, whether copy of the rules for constructioll materials such as central accredition for Press Information cement, steel etc. The Government Bureau, New Delhi will be laid on the ar~ following a liberal policy to- Table of the House? wards granting of industrhd licenc(s for setting up cement factories; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (ii) making available levy cement for BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL) : cOtlstruction of houses upto a limi- (a) to (c). Existing rules already provide ted plinth area; and for relaxation of conditions for grant of accreditation to correspondents of small (iii) encouraging the use of locally avai- newspapers including those representing labJe material. Sheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. [Translationl Proposal to Increase Housing Finance Construction of Lake and Big Park 3007. SHRI T. BALA GAUD: Will near Tibar Gaon the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state : 3008. SHRI LALIT MAKEN: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING (a) whether a proposal for substantial be pleased to state the prescnt position of increase of housing finance is under consi- the schcn1C' re'garding construction of the deration of government; proposed lake and big park near Tihar Gaon in Western Delhi which was started (b) if so, the details thereof; by DDA in 1980 ? CHAITRA 25, 19m (SAKA) 7B
T.l:tB MINISTER. OF WORKS AND (c) The ,tooks of foodgrain' at the end HOUSING (SKRI ABDUL OHAFOOR) : of December, 1984 were :- DDA bas reported that development work Qf lake Campus in Tihar village is com.. (in MUZio" ton"esj plete \n accordance with the land-scape plan. Rice 7.71 24 acres of land have been developed as Wheat 14.80 lawn and 11000 trees have been planted. Coarse 0.10 The area has been fuUy developed from grains the horticultural point of view. The dirty water coming to this lake from Tihar Total 22.61 village has also been stopped by laying of sewer lines. The lake, of course, gets filled up during rainy season only. How- Setting up of Radio Station at ever, there is a proposal to provide two Shawani Patna more tubewells to make this lake perennial and to keep the surrounding areas clean. 3010. SHRI JAOANNATH PATNAIK: Will the Minister of INFORMATION (Eng/ish] AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state : Food Stocks in 1977 and 1980 (a) whether there is any proposal to 3009. SHRI S. M. GURADDI: Will set up a Radio Station at Bhawani Patna the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL S U p- in Kalahandi district of Orissa during tOe PLIES be pleased to state : Seventh Plan period;
(a) the details about the food stocks (b) if so, the time by which Govern.. in 1977 and in 1980; ment propose to set up the Radio Station in the Kalahandi district of Orissa; and (b) whether there has been fall in the food stocks during 1977 to 1980 and if so, (c) if not, whether Government will to what extent ; and consider this matter taking the backward.. ness of the area into consideration? (c) the details of these stocks at the end of December, 1984 ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL) : CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (a) to (c). A scheme to set up a Radio SINGH) : (a) and (b). Details of stocks Station at Bhawani Patna has tentatively of foodgrains with the public agencies in been included ill the draft proposals for 1977 and 1980 are as under :- the 7th Five Year Plan (1985-90). The 7th Plan has not yet been finalised. (in Million Tonnes) [Translation] Stocks as on 1st January 1st January Increase in Transmission RUle of Sapr 1977 1980 T.V. Centre 3011. SHRI NANDLAL CHOU.. Rice 5.73 9.05 DHAR Y: Will the Minister of INFOR- Wheat 12.45 8.36 MATION AND BROADCASTING be pJeased to state : Coarse 0.78 0.11 grains (a) whether action is being taken to increase the transmission range of Salnr TOTAL 18.96 17.52 T.V. centre (Madhya Pradesh) ;, nnd
Thus, there was a fall of 1.44 million (b) if so, the kilometrage by which the tonnes in stocks durins the above period. ranse is proposed to be increased 1 APRIL IS. J91S
THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) number of houses aHott'" by MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND D.D.A. durina the period of three year, BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADOIL) : ending 31 December, 1984 ; and (a) No, Sir. (b) categories of people to whom allot- (b) Does not arise. ment was made? (Enlllshl THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Allotment of Houses by DDA HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : 3012. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (a) and (b). 71,425 houses were allottedl Will the Minister of WORKS AND allocated by DDA under its various hous- HOUSING be pleased to state: ing schemes as per detatls given below :-
81. Name of Scheme Catcgory Total No. ------MIG LIG JANTA
1. General Housing 6240 3455 2390 12085 Scheme
2. New Pattern Scheme 5555 9868 10169 25592 1979
3. Self Financing Cat. I Cal. II Cat. /11 Schemes 842 16553 16353 33748
Grand Total: 71,425
Implementation of IRDP in Seventh Plan planning, closer monitoring and tighter 3013. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will the organisation for effective implementation". Minister of AGRICULTURE & RURAL However. as the Seventh FIve Year Plan DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: has not yet been fin.tlised details arc not available. (a) whether Government propose to in- Implementaton of IRDP in West Bengal crease the number of beneficiaries ill each block from 600 upwards during Seventh 3015. PROF. M.R. HALDER: will the Plan under IRDP ; Minister of AGRICULTURE & RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) if so, to wh at extent; and (a) how many families belonging to (c) whethu Government propose to SCjST and those bcJonging to economically implement this programme in a better way weaker section comprising vanous other after noting the shortfalls in the past and communities were covered in first four the steps taken to imrove the implementa- years of Sixth Five Year Plan by 'IRDP' in tion? West Bengal ; (b) the detaiJs of money allotted for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the programme; and THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL (c) whether target was achieved or not? PEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) to (c). The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Approach to the Seventh Five Year Plan, DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- 1985-90 states "The emphasis on rural MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAN.. employment through NREP, RLEGP DRAKAR): (a) to (c). A statement ia and IRDP will continue with better laid on the Table of the Houle. 8J IV"".. ..,_" 1 CBAITJlA 25, ISVI (SA.KA) S~ Impk#Mnlallon of IRDP in W.,t Ben,al (/980-81-1983 ..84)
(Ra. In lalclu) 1. Number of SetST families assisted. 1.60,987
2. Percentage of Se/ST families to total families assisted. 36.18·
3. Number of families belonging to other economically weaker sections assisted. 2.'5,523
4. Total number of families assisted. 4,36,510
S. Target of total number of families to be assisted. 8,04,000
6. Achievement as percentage of tarlet. 54.29
,. Total allocation (including Central and State share). 9045.00
8. Central allocation 4522.50
9. Central release 1319.92·.
10. Total expenditure (including States' share) 3(0),12
11. Total expenditure as percentage of total allocation. 33.18
• According to the guidelines, at least 30~1o of the total families assisted under the programme were to be from the SC/ST category. •• In addition to the Central releases made during 1980-84, an amount of Rs. 660.62 lakhs released by the Central Government during 1978-80 was a Iso available as unutilised balance.
Procurement Price of Paddy tRice THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND in Andaman and Nicobar Islands CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). During 1984-85 3016. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: kharif marketing season, Government of WiH the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL India have announced the support price SUPPLIES be pleased to state: of paddy at Rs. 137, Rs. 141 and Rs. 145 (a) whether Government have fixed per quintal, respectively for common, fine the procurement price of paddy/rice; and superfine varieties. A statement show- ing procurement price of rice for the (b) if so, what is the present price, purpose of levy during 1984-85 kharif State-wise ; season is attached. (c) whether Government procure paddy/rice in the Union Territory of. (c) and (d). There is no levy on rice Andaman and Nicobar Islands; and in the Union Territory of Andaman and Nicobar Islands. An insignificant (d) if so, the price so fixed during last quantity of paddy/rice is procured in three years, year-wise and the actual pro- the Union Territory under price curement made '1 support. · Writt,,, If1fKWerS " A~1t, lS, 1985 StateDlent Procurement price of lev, rice for 1984·85 M~,kdt"6 SeMon
(lb. per quintal) SI. State/Union Territory Common Fide Superfine
1. Andhra Pradesh 227.40 233.70 240.00 2. Assam 225.55 235.35 241.70 3. Bihar 219. J5 227.50 233.65 4. Oujarat 210.60 216.40 222.15 5. Haryana 233.90 247.60 256. JS 6. Karnataka 216.45 2~2.45 228.45 7. Madhya Pradesh 223.55 229.75 235.90 8. Orissa 228.30 234.60 240.95 9. Punjab 230.75 244.25 252.70 10. Rajasthan 223.95 235.35 241.70 11. Uttar Prcld(sh 217.65 223.60 234.75 12. West Bengal 217.10 225.40 231.45 13. Chandigarh 230.75 244.25 252.70 14. Delhi 219.05 231.90 239.90 15. Pondicherry 211.65 217.60
Note: Prices for 1984~8S are exclusive of gunny prices.
[Translation 1 Flats lying vaca Dt in Saket and Lodi Estates TV Net Work in Far Flung Areas of H.P. 3018. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will 3017. SHRI K. D. SULTANPURI: the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING Will the Ministef of INFORMATION be pleased to state : AND BROADCASTING be ple('sed to state : (a) whether he is aware that a large number (\f duly completed flats are lying the steps being taken for bringing the vacant in Saket and Lodi Complex area; far flung areas of Himachal Pradesh under and the T.V. network? (b) if so, when were these flats cons- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tructed and the reasons for their Jying MINISTRY OF INFORMATION & vacant 1 BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): There is no approved scheme, ut present, THE MINISTFR OF WORKS AND for setting up more TV Ccr tres in Him~t· HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL OHAFOOR) : chal Pradesh. Extensioll of TV service (a) and (b). None of the duly completed to various parts of the country, if'eluding flats are lying vacant in Lodi Complex far-flung areas of Himrchal Pn desh will area. 572 flats of various types have been depend on the actual availability of resour- recently completed in Mehrauli Badarpur ces fef this purpose during future Plan Read area (Saket), except external electri- periods. cel service work for these dats, which is in IS' W"'t,." A"",." CHAITRA 25, 1" ,(SAKA) W,ltt." .4111Wrl 86 proareu. At lOon as exterdal electrical (v) Any other important problems- service work i 8 completed by Delhi Electric that may arise. Supply U lldertakins. these flats wUI be released for allotment. (c) Does not arise.
[Eqll,") (Trllllslatlon] Betel Leaf Reaaearcb Centre In Increasing tbe Ranle of 15 KM RaBIe West 8eDp1 TV Transmitters 3019. SHRI SATYAOOPAL MISRA : 3020. SHRI VISHNU MODI : Will Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE the Minister of INFORMATION AND AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: sed to state : [&IIIIh] (c) Yes, Sir. A number of etnPloy•• ~re waiting for allotment of mUDj~ipal National Housing Scheme for all aocommodation. Sections of Society (d) New Delhi Municipal Committee is 3021. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: Will taking necessary steps to secure allotment the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING of land from Government of India and be ploased to state: Delhi Development Authority for construc- tion of their staff quarters and also reques- (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- ted Delhi Development Authority to provide ment are contemplating to formulate shortly flats for allotment to its employees on hire a national housing scheme envisaging purchase basis. accommodation for all sections of society; and Construction of Quarters for Central Go,ern .ent Employees in Banplore (b) if so, When and the details thereof? 3023. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : Will the Minister of WORKS AND THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) and (b). The schc mes for meeting (a) whether the existing Government the housing needs in the country are under quarters for Central Government emplo~ formulation for incorporation in the yee~ in Bangalore city are not sufficient to Seventh Five Year Plan whIch is likely to meet the demands of the employee., ; be finalised soon. (b) whether there is any proposal to Residential Accommodation for NOMe construct more Quarters in Bangalore city Employees for the use of Central Government emplo- yees ; and 3022. SARI CHITTA MAHAT A : Will the Minister of WORKS AND (c) whether Government approached HOUSING be pleased to state: the State Government or the Bangalore Development Authority for allotm~nt of (a) whether the Directorate of Estate') land for construction of quarters ? allot residential units to the New DelhI Municipal Committee's employees. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (b) if so, the details thereof and if not, (a) Ye~, Sir. the reasons therefor; (b) Ye~, Sir. There is a proposal to (c) whether NDMe employees have construct about 170 quarters of various not been allotted residential units by the types. NDMC so far and are waIting for the last 15 years; and (c) c. P. W. D. had approached the Bangalort" Development Authority for allot- (d) if so, the steps being taken in thIs ment of land for construction of quarters. regard? Opening of Composite Rural Training THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND and Technology Centres HOUSING (SHRJ ABDUL GHAFOOR) : 3024. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will (a) and (b). New Delhi Municipal Com~ the Minister of AGRICULTURE & mittee is not an eligible office for allotment RURAL DEVFLOPMENT be pleased to of general pool residential accommodation state : controlled by the Directorate of Estates. However, a few units of genual pool (a) whether there is any proposal to accommodation have been placed at the open composite Rural Training and Tech .. disposal of New Delhi Municipal Commit~ no]ogy Centres in the variou$ States (iYfjnS tee for allotment to their employees. this year ; anc;l At W"ltten Answers (b) if so, the State-wise break-up? 17%, Gujarati lO~~, English 6% and Urdu 2CX). Programmes in other languages like THE MINISTER OF STATE IN'THE Sindhi, Konkani, Sanskrit, etc. are also DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. telecast by the Kendra. MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND- RAKAR) : (a) to (b). Yes, Sir. Setting up Agricultura) Produce Price Fixatioa of Composite Rural Training and Techno.. Committee logy Centres is a new scheme proposed for 3026. SHRI N.V. RATNAM = Will the implementation during Seventh Five Year Minister -of AGRICULTURE AND P:un. Since the Seventh Five Year Plan RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to has not yet been finalised, the details are state : not available. (a) whether each State has Agricultural Time given to the Marathi Programme Produc~ Pr~ces Fixation Committees of their at Bombay Doordarshan oYln; 3025. SHRI D. B. PATIL: Will the (b) v.hethcr all the States have been Minister of INFORMATION AND demanding for long to have their own BROADCASTI NG to be pleased to state: committees ; and (a) whether there are complaints to the (c) the reasons for not permitting them effect that sufficient time is not being given to have their own price fixation commit- for programmes in Marathi at Bombay tees? Doordarshan ; THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (b) if so, what Government propose to AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI do in this matter; and BUT A SINGH): (a) to (c). Information is being collected. (c) the average time allotted per week for various languages at Bombay Door- Cost Index for the Agriculture Produce darshan ? 3027. SH RJ BALASAHEB VIKHE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE PATIL: Will the Minister of AGRI. MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP. BROADCASTING (SHRI V,N.GADGIL) : MENT be plea~cd to state: (a) and (b). Doordarshan Kendra, Born· bay serves a metropolitan area consisting (a) whether, like the industrial produce, of a large number of linguistic groups of Government have any cost index for the viewers. Suggestions are received from agricultural produce in the country; time to time from different linguistic groups for more programmes in their respective (b) whether Government propose to set languages, including Marathi. Attempts up a machinery for this purpose; and are made to accommodate these requests within the constraints of transmission time, (c) if so, details thereof? production facilities at the Kendra, etc. With the implementation of the reCently THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE approved scheme for introduction of a AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SMRI second TV Channel at Doordarshan BUT A SINGH) = (8) There is no cost Kendra, Bombay, some more time is expec- index for the agricultural produce in the ted to be available for Marathi program- country. However, to study the cost struc- mes. ture and obtain the Cost of Production of Crops, a Comprehensive Scheme for Study- (c) In terms of duration of programmes ing the Cost of Cultivation/Production of originated by Doordatshan Kendra, Bom- Principal Crops has been in operation since bay per week, programmes in Marathi 1970-71. The scheme envisages collection accoutltedt on the buis of average for the of representative data on inputs and outputs l ..t 13 weeks, for 61%. toHowed by Hindi both in physical and monetary terms aod Written AnsWers A'PR.IL IS. 1985 obtain therefrom the cost of cultivation per THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE hectare and cost of produGtion per quintal MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND of the principal crops in major selected BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.OADOIL) : states. (a> A statement oontaininl the roquisite (b) and (c). National Commission on information is attached. Agriculture and the Special Expert Com .. (b) Directorate of Advertising and mittee on Cost of Production Estimates Visual Publicity utilized during 1983-84 a (Sen Committee) suaested the construction space of 38,7S7 col. ems. in IS Patna based of Index Number of Costs for the Principal Urdu daily newspapers which are borne on Crops. This suggestion has been agreed to their Media List. Similar information for in principle. the year 1984-85 is being compiled and shall be laid on the table of the House in ProlisioD of another CbaJmel in due course. Madras Doordarshan (c) No, Sir. 3028. SHRI R. ANNANAMBr : Will the Minister of 1NFORMATION AND (d) Does not arise. BROADCASTING be pJeased to state: Statement (a) . whether Government are consider- ing the provision of another channel in Names of Urdu dailies published from PaUla Madras Doordarsban ; and registered with the Registrar of Newspapers for India (b) if so, the time by which it is likely to be implemented ; and SI. No. Name of the daily (c) if not, the reasons therefor '1 1. Sathi 2. Hamara Nara THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 3. Sada.. e-Aam THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION 4. Qaumi Tanzecm AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. S. Ek Qaum GADGIL): (a) and (b). The scheme 6. Sadaquat for providing a second TV channel at Door- 7. Sangarn darshan Kendra, Madras has heen approv- 8. Qaumi Awaz ed recently. The service is expected to 9. Nawai-t-Subh commence by the end of 1985. 10. Azimabad Express (c) Does not arise. 11. Kohkan 12. Qaumi Swar [ Translation] 13. Halat-e,Bihar Urdu Dally Newspapers publisbed 14. Paigham-e.. Bihar from PatDa 15. Paigham-e-Nehru 3029. SHRJ ABDUL HANNAN 16. Mosallas ANSARI Will the Minister of INFOR- 17. Rahrau MATION AND BROADCASTING be 18. Desh Bidesh pleased to state: 19. League 20. Hamara Bihar (a) the names of Urdu daily newspapers 21. In Dinon published from Patna ; 22. Azimabad Mail (b) the advertisements allotted by 23. Paigam .. e-Sanjay DAV P to these newspapers since 1983 to 24. Taoos 20th March, 1985 ; 25. Garam Hawa 26. Do Shabad (c) whether Government have received 27. Sada-e-Mashrique complaints regarding the increasing trend 28. Kal Ki Duniya of discrimination against the Urdu news- 29. Pyari Urdu papers in the allotment of advertisements : 30. Shujayat and 31. Janubi Bihar (d) whether Government propose to 32. Bbavishya Wak enquire into the cases of discrimination ? 33. E,isar. ~ JflIUta k,w,,, l CHAI'Nt,A. 25. 16l()1 (SAKA) Written AIIS,."s [Engll,"] (b) if so, the salient features thereof; R.... YB1 of J..... ieI frem Alhok Vibar and 3030. SHRI D.L. BAITHA: Will the (c) how far these plans will go in hell'- Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be ing the farm labour in organised and un- pleased to state : I organised s~ctors? (a) whether in almost aU the Nursery THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHR! Parks in genera] and Nursery Park between T. ANJIAH) : (a) to (c). , Minimum '8' .'nd Ie' Blocks of AShok Vihar (Phase Wages for workers in agriculture sector 1), Delhi, many jhuggies have been set up ; are largely fixed and revised by the respec- if so, the action Government propose to tive State Governments/Unjon Territory remove those jhullies ; Administraticns under the provisions of Mi.llimum Wages Act, J948. The enforce- (b) whether many of these jhuggi .. dweJ. ment of the wages fixed is also the respons- lers have already been allotted alternative ibifity of th~ State Governments/Union Ter- land by D.D.A. but still they are conti- ritory Administratiors under the provisions nuing in the same Jhuggies and if so, of the Act. AcconJing to the information reason for not getting these Jhuggies demo- availabJe from the Sf.He Governments/Union lished ; and Territory Administrations. various arrange- ments have been made for enforcement of (c) the probabJe date by which these mmlmum wage~ in agriculture. Some jhuggies will be got vacated and demo- Stat:s like GUjdTdt, Bihar and Punjab have lished ? set up separate machinery for the purpose. Other States have strengthened their enfor- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND cement machinery by bppointing additional HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : st~lff and by cmpOWl rmg officials of Depart- (a) There is a large number of jhuggi- ments other than labour as inspectors jbompries in Ashok VJhllr including the 2 under the Act. Tripartite implementation jhuggi clusters, one comprising 19 and the committees have dso been constituted by other] 2 jhuggies, in the fenced areas of variou~ Statrs to oversee the implementa- parks betwec n blocks Band C of Ashok tion bf 1'l1ir,imum wages. Most of the Vihar 10 Phase I AClion for their removal State Governments/Union Territory Admi- would only be possible when alternative nistrations have constituted Minimum sites are available for allotment to these W"ges Advisory Boards. Certtral Govern- jhuggi dwellers. ment is regularly monitoring the revision and enforcement of minimum wages in (b) The Delhi Development Authority agriculture under the 20 Point Programme. have reported that it has not been possible to verify whether any alternative allotments Central Government has also recently were made to these jhuagi jhompri dwellers launched a new scheme for giving financial earlier in the absence of full particulars of assistance to State Governments for strena- previous allotmen 1. , theni,ng their enforcement machinery in the agri~ulture sector. Under this scheme (c) Removal of jhuggies. will depend financial ,assistance will be made availa,bl~, upon the availability of alternative sites. in the fisrt instance, to the States of Rajas- No time Hmit for their removal can, thtre- than, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa and Mani- fore be fixed at this stage,. pur for appoil~ting two hundred inspectors I in bloc~s where popul~tion of SCjST agri- Enforcement of Minimum Wales bl cultural workers is more than 70%. All the · Apiculture . State Governments have recently been 3031. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI advised to make an indepth review of the Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased revision of mjnimum waaes in agriculture, t'O »tate : as well as arrangements made for their emorcement. The enforcement of mini- . Ca) whetlter plaDl have been drawn to mum wales in a;riculture as well I u. other enforce minimum Willi iu ,-,culture-t0 scheduled employments under the MiDi~ iVrltltll A,1ISWtrl APRIL 1~. 1985 mum Wales Act is a continuous process (d) the time by which alfthe remahlfnl which is being strengthened by programmes general assiltants wiJl be absorbt;,d a. ,ro- of workers' education under various duction assistants? schemes in the Ministry. The enforcement of Minimum Wages in agriculture is also THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE being complemented by various schemes of MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND employment generation in the rura] areas BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL): such tiS NREP and RLEGP which have an (a) Information is being collected and indir~ct effect of raising wages in the farm will be laid on the table of the sector. House. Ban OR Advertisements about Imported (b) Under the scheme of conversion Goods of Staff Artists of AIJ India Radio & Door- 303~. SHRI B. K. GADHVI: Will darshan as Government employees subject the Minister of INFORMATION AND to their option and screening, the posts of BROADCASTING be pleased to state: General Assistants have since been treated as on par with Clerk Grade II. (c) the measures proposed to be taken 3034. SHRI BANW ARI LAL BAIR W A: in this regard ? Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE sed to ~tate : MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL): (a) whether any independent studies (a) Yes, Sir. have been made regarding cost of pro- duction of milk by any institution, public (b) No, Sir. or private; (c) Does not arise. (b) if so, their findings; and AblOrptlon of General Assistants as (c) the details thereof? Production ASllstants in Doordarsban 3033. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGHAL: THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI AND BROADCASTING be pleased to BUTA SINGH): (a) to (c). In order state: to develop a satisfactory technique for estimating the cost of production of milk, Afe.... ' yield per heetere of pulses in (i) low irrigation coverale : 18dill and other coantrles (in cultivation of pulses is confined 3035. SHR( V. SOBHANADREE- largely to marginal and sub-marai- SWARA RAO Will the Minister of nal1ands, thereby inhibiting the use AGRICULTURE AND RURAL Dl;;VE- of modern technoJogy; LOPMEN r be pleased to state : (iii) low "pplication of fertilisers and (a) the ,1\ l'rdg:.! yield per hectHr~ of pl;)nt prot('(. tion measures; and VariOll& pulses ill I ndia and how it com- pares witL tlll: yield per hectare in other (iv) low COVlf<.lge of 'area under HYV countries like China, Japan, Nctharlands, seeds. France, U.K. and USA; (d) Steps taken by Government to in- (b) whethl'r any study has been made crease the yidd of pulses, inter.. alia, to know the reasons for the low yic Jds include: in our country; (c) the fdctOfS that ~\re contributing (i) extension of pulses in irrigated for the higher yields ill thr foreign coun- areas; tries ; (ii) bringing additional area under (d) the steps proposed by Govl'fnment short duration varieties of pulses to increase the yield; and in rice fallows by utilising the resi- dua) moisture in rabi season ; (c) details regarding targets fixed and results achieved so far '! (iji) cultivation of short duration varie- ties of moong and urad with irri- THE MlNISTER OF AGRRICUL- gation in summer as a catch crop; TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : (a) 1 he average (IV) inter-cropping of arhar in soyabean, yield of gram (dlid.-pcu) and total pulses bUjf'l, cotton, sugarcane and in India durjng 1983, together With com- groundnut, both under irrigated parative figure:, for selected countries arc and unirrigated conditions; given below : and (Kgs/hrClarc) (v) maximlsmg the yield levels by the usc of improved seeds, adoPtion Gram Total of improved package of practices (Chick-peLl) pulses including plant protection measures ------.- and price support. India 715 541 Besides, the Central Government have China 1239 been implementing various development Japan 957 programmes to increase the production N ethar Ian ds 3857 und yield of pulses through various Cen- France 3369 tral/C(..n trally Sponsored Schemes in U.K. different States and Union Terri- 2624 tories. U.S.A. 1617 World 714 676 (c) The target fixed for production of pulses for the terminal year of the Sixtb Plan is 13.0 million tonnes. As against (b) and (c). Th<. reasons for low yields this, production achieved during 1983.84 in India as compared to other countries, was 12.65 million tonnes. Figures for inter-al~, include : 1984·85 have not yet become available. Written Answers APR.tL 15, 1985 WrItten AnsWHs ldO Procurement of AncIIara Rice (or Kerala construction as also the number of villages and population likely to be served ; and 3036. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the -(c) whether the schemes which are Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- still pending and under construction would PLIES be pleased to state : be expedited on a priority basis in view of prevailing drought and shortage of drinking (a) whether Government are aW.lrc 0 f water in the current year 1985-86 ? the high deficit in internal availability of rice in Kerala ; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (b) wheth('r Government are also (a) Water supply is a State subject. aware that the Al1dhra boiled rice is the Schemes for providing fural drinking most preferred variety of rice in Kerala ; water supply are formulated and executed by the States. Grants under the Accele- (c) whethu Government will allow the rated Rural Water Supply Programme are Kcrala State Civil Supplies Corporation to released for the programme as a whole in procure stocks frc m A ndhra Pradesh, espe- a Slate and not for any particular cially in vit;W of the f.sct that Central scheme. Government allow private agencies to procure rice from surplus States; arId (b) In view of above, precise informa- tion regarding the number of schemes (d) if so, steps taken in this direction completed or nearing completion wil1 be and if not, the reaSOliS therefor ? available only with the State Government. However, since the reintroduction of THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Accelerated Rural Water SuppJy Program .. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA me (1977-78), schemes for providing water SINGH) : (a) The State Govt'rnment have supply to 4883 Villages In Hlmachal Pra .. reported a defiCit in the aJlotment of rice desh for benefiting a population of 9,43,296 compared to the total requirements. at a total estimated cost of Rs. 3648.46 lakhs Were given technical clearance by (b) The State Govefllmcnt have requ- the Central Public Health Engineering ested for aUotml nt of rice from Andhra Organisation of this Ministry. Pradesh, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. According to the reports submitted by (c) and (d). Any request from Kcrala the State Government, 3426 problem vil- Government in this regard will be examin- lages having a population of 6,96,488 ed on merits whcn received, keeping in (according to 1971 Ccn~us) have been pro- vh.w the policy of the Government in this vJded with at least one source of safe matter, and depending on the situation drinking water under the Accelerated that prevai1s from lime to time. Rural Water Supply Programme from the inception of the scheme till December Drinking Water Supply Scheme in 1984. ' Himachal Pradesh 3037. PROF. NARAIN CHAND (c) At meetings held to review perfor- PARASHAR: Will the Minister of mance of the States under Point 8 of 20 WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to Point Programme, all the States were state : requested to cover as many problem vil· Jages as po~siblc by the end of the Sixth (a) whether p ny Cl1,tra]Jy Sponsored Five Year PJan period. Based on the Drinking Water SuppJy S\.hemes have been Memorandum received from the Govern- compitted cr arc I t'( riflg compJetion in ment of Himachal Pradesh. the High Level Himacha1 Pradesh; Committee on Relief recommended Ccn- tral assistance to the extent of Rs. 27 (b) if so, the names of the schemes lakhs in 84-85 and Rs. IS lakhs in 8S-86 alongwith details regarding the esti- for drinking water supply in drouaht mated cost, target dates and period of affected areas in Himachal Pradcsh. CBAltRA 2S, l~ (SAKA) WrUtell An8wers (r,tlII8JlltlollJ to cover four more districts under the ReDlllDeratl1'e Price of Potatoes to farmers In scheme. The market intervention opera- Uttar Pndesb tions are continuing. 3038. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER; Will By and large, cold storage facilities in the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Uttar Pradesh have been increasing with RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to the rise in production. The total cold state: storage capacity in the private and co- operative sectors has increased from J 2 (a) wheth{ r Government are aware lakh MTs in 1979-80 to 2J.2 Jakh MTs in that potato growers in Uttar Pradesh are 1983-84. In the cooperative sector, out getting price less than the production cost of 103 cold stornges organised with a of potatoes ; capacity of 3.166 lakh MTs, 59 units having a capacity of 1.366 lakh MTs have been (b) whether Government are also instalIed and 43 units with a capacity of aware that even after utilising the full 1 .60 Iakh MTs are under construction. capacity of coldstorages in Uttar Pradesh a Jarge quantity of potatoes are rotting Setting up of cold storages form an in- there; and tegral part of the scheme of promoting cooperative marketing of potatoes in the (c) if so, the steps being taken by country. Under the World Bank Pro- Government to ensure remunerative price grammes, the National Cooperative Deve- of potatoes to farmers and to increase lopment Corpordtion (NCDC) is assisting coldstorage capacity in Uttar Pradesh for augmentation of cooperative cold storage the purpose ? capacity in the potato growing States in- dud ing Uttar Pradesh. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI [English} BUTA SINGH): (a) For the current Fe! '8 Dependenc:e on PrJvate Transporters year, in consultation with the Govern- ment of Uttar Pradesh, the price of potato 3039. SHRr BHOLA NATH SEN: of fair average quality (FAQ) has been Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL fixed at Rs. 50/- per quintal. The State SUPPLIES be pJeased to state: Government has also fixed Rs. 40/- per (a) whether the Food Corporation quintal for red variety of potato. These have been fixed as indicative prices for of India is facing problems in the hand.. purposes of market intervention operations ling of various commodities, specially and to facilitate reasonable returns to foodgrains, because of its almost total dependence on private transporters/con- farmers. tractors ; and (b) Report of Potatoes rotting in Uttar (b) if so, the details thereof and the Pradesh for want of cold storage capacity, steps taken/proposed to be taken for have not been recei ved so far. restructuring the handling poJicy and/or to streamline handling operations of (c) To heJp farmers, the scheme of F.e 1. ? market intervention for potatoes has been in operation in the State since 19.1.1985. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND It is being implemented jointly by the . CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA U. P. Cooperative Marketing Federation SINGH) : (a) and (b). The present system (PCP) and the National Agricultural Co- handling of various commodities including operative Marketing Federation of India foodgrains by Food Corporation of India (NAFED). The purchases under the is working well except in isolated cases. scheme are made at Rs. 50/- per quintal Where operations are disrupted on account by the implementing agencies through 59 of transporters/contractors, alternative centres set up in 16 districts by the res- arrangements are made by the Corporation pective primary aaricultural cooperatives. at the risk and cost of the dcfaultina con" More recontly. a decision has been taken tractors. WrlllefJ Answers (T,.nsJfl.lion) 1. Setting up static and ataticllliea. Mobile Dispensaries. Cea Collection for Bidi Workers 2. Build Your OWn Honse Scheme. 3040. SHRI DALCHANDER JAIN: will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to 3. Housina Scheme for economically state: weaker sections of beedi worken. (a) State-wise figures of colJection of 4. Grant of scholarships to chHdren of bidi cess during the last three years ; beedi workers. (b) item-wise expenditure in each 5. Reservation of beds in T. B. Hos.. State under the Bidi Workers Welfare pitals. Scheme; 6. Grant of financial assistance to co- operative societies of Beedi Workers (c) whether there is any other scheme for construction of sheds and Go; for the welfare of bidi workers for the downs. future; and 7. Reimbursement of actual treatment (d) if so, the details thereof? charges to workers suffering from Cancer. THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH) : (a) Detaib are gIven in 8. Financial assistance to School going annexure.. l. children for supply of one set of dress. (b) The expenditure figures are coll- 9. Schemes for organising sports, ected Regionwise. Details of expenditure games, and cultural activjties. in 1983-1984 are given in annexurc-ll 10. Scheme for supply of spectacles to (c) and (d). The following welfare Beedi Workers (including Gharkhata schemes are being implemented. Workers) free of cost. Annexure-I Receipts 0/ Cess Under Beedi State 1982-83 1983-84 1984-85 (upto Dec) _.....,_--- ....-.------.._------1. Assam 45,495.68 47,394.34 32,202.65 2. Bihar ] 5.16,819.63 18,86,486.00 9,05,906.32 3. West Bengal 21,66,845.76 22,29,151.62 7,04,420.10 4. Orissa 3,36,521.45 3,28,872.90 2,24,092.02 5. Uttar Pradlsh 9,79,510.26 21,48.190.95 9,79,503.03 6. Andhra Prad(.sh 50,99,858.77 55,26,315.50 29,81,168.36 7. Kcrala 13,30,307.43 )4,65,OS9.S4 6,33,526.43 8. Karnataka 48,78,520.59 52,88,366.55 32,65,630.92 9. TaOlllrladu 41,54,248.02 45,13,604.83 21,76,858.67 blO: Rajasthan 4,09,275.55 3,63,956.15 1,70,022.86 11. Gujarat 1,33,326.22 1,00,619.10 48,100.85 12. Maharashtra 38,87,214.22 32,02,482.33 22,10,655.21 13. Madhya Pradesh 70,53,368.84 74,75,186.37 51,16,692.4' _.--...... ------_...._...,_,------..._..._.-~- TotaJ-3,19,91,312.42 3,405,85,686.18 1,~,48t 779 .87 ------,_,.._ ------.....- ---... ------I ~ • .L WrlttM A",,,.,, CHAITRA 25, 19M (SAKA) Written A",wer.f 106 Moexure·1I Expenditure for the Year /98J-1984 Reglonwise and Itemwise In Respect 0/ B.!edl Worker, Welfare Fund; Reffered to in Part (b) of the Answer to Lok Sabha Unstarred Question No. 3040 for 15th April, 1985. ( Rs. In Lakhs ) Items Regions Administration Health Education Recreation Housing ALLAHABAD 4.15 16.68 6.81 0.10 (Bihar &. Uttar Pradesh) JABALPUR 4.45 14.50 18.00 0.08 (A4adhya Pradesh &. Maharashtra) BAGI\LORE 7.76 51.52 14.45 17.33 ( Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu & Kerala ) BHILWARA 1.90 11.58 5.48 0.09 ( Rajashthan & Gujarat ) BHUBANESWAR 3.95 9.61 1.00 0.25 ( Orissa, West Bengal &. Eastern States) [English] BUTA SINGH): (a) The quantity of Water Requirement for Paddy per Acre water being used on an average per acre of irrigated p.lddy crop ill India, China 3041. SHRI V. SOBHANADRESWARA and Japan are 4032-8445 m 1, 3454 013 and RAO : Will the Minister of AGRICULT- 2804-5242 rn 3 respectively. URE AND RURAL DEVELOPEMNT be pleased to state : (b) The quantity of water required for one acre of paddy crop in black cotton (a) the quantity of water now being c;oil under irrigated conditions as per used on un average per acre of irriga- research experiments is 7187 m3• ted paddy crop in our country and the comparative figures for Japan and China; (c) In general, if Welter is available, farmers everywhere apply greater depths (b) the quantity of water required for of water in paddy fields than is actually one acre of paddy crop in Black Cotton required. This is done due to the appreh- soil as per research experiments ; ension that next turn of canal supply may not come in time. Besides, greater depth (c) whether water is being wasted in of water in paddy fields is sometimes the form of excess usage in some States ; required for effective weed control. if so, the details thereof ; and (b) Indian Council of Agricultural (d) steps being taken by Government Research, through its All India Coordi- to propagate the need to prevent wastage nated Project on Water Management spread of water among farmers through different over 34 Centres in leA R lnst itutes/ Agri- media and channels? cultural Universities in the country, has beeh propagating the correct lIse of water THe MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE to paddy crop and also ha \Ie dCftlOnstrated AND aUR.AL DEVELOPMENT ( SHRI appropriate location specific methods fur 107 Written AlI3wer, APRIL IS, 1985 Writtelf A.",."", I. reducing water wastage and increasing (b) if so, the reasons why the DDA water ulie efficiency. In most of the places, should not share the sale proceeds of the programmes known as Operational these plots of lands with the Co-operative Research Projects. are being taken up in Society Which is the lessee of the land collaboration with Command Area Deve- and which spent a large amount for its lopment Authorities. Field visits, Radio development and whose efforts enhanced talks, and Extension lectures are organised the value of the plots ? for the benefit of the farmers to educate them in the appropriate technology for THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND efficient water use. HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL OHAFOOR) : (a) Yes, Sir. New AgrIculture Polley (b) According to the terms of the 3042. SHRI B. V. DESAI: Will the agreement executed with the Society, the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND developed land meant for shopping centre, RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to school etc.; vests with the Lessor. The state : Lessor has the right to dispose of the land other thau that meant for residential plots (a) whether the Prime Minister assu- in any manner and to whomsoever he red the nation during March, 1985 that thinks proper. The society has no claim the Centre would soon be taking various for the refund of any amount or any part steps to inject new life in agricultural thereof paid towards premium or expen- sector; ded by the society on the development of Jand. Therefore. the Question of DDA (b) if so, whether the .lew agricultural shanng sale proceeds of such plots of policy is being drafted and details wprked land with the society does not arise. out; and Plight of Women Living in Slums (c) if so, the main features of the new policy? 3044. SHRI PRIYARANJAN DAS MUNSHJ : Will the Miniliter of WORKS THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND HOUSING be pleased to state: AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (a) whether he is aware of the fact BUTA SJNGH ) : (a) The Prime Mim~ that living condition of women in the ter has been placing emphasis from time slums belonging to minority, Harijan and to time on further development of agri- Scheduled castes arc horrible in Bombay, culture, specially in the context of the CaJcutta, Howrah, Ahmedabad, Kanpur Seventh Five Year Plan. and Patna; (b) and (c). Different issues are being (b) whether any specific programme examined in the above context and details for their toilet, maternity assistance and are being worked out in consuJtation with self-employment programme is under other concerned Ministries. consideration of Government; and Payment for Land Earmarked for Shopping (c) special programme Government Centres, Schools etc. in N1rmaD Vibar are contemplating for women in Calcutta 3043. SHRI KAMAL NATH : Will the and Hawrah slum? Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) whether the land earmarked for (a) No detailed survey of the living shopping centres. schools etc. have been conditions in the slums has been under- paid for and the services such as electri~ taken. However. it is a matter of common city lines, water lines, sewers and levell- knowledge that the condition. of tbe alum ina have been provided in Nirman Vihar, dwellers, and particularly these fallilll in by the Lessee, j. e. Co-operative House the catelory referred to by tho Hon'ble Buildin, Society; and Member, are extremely vDsatisfaQ,or,. CBAITRA 2$, 1907 (SAKA) Written Anawers 110 (b) Under the Scheme of Envjron .. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE mental Improvement of Urban Slums AND RURAL DEVELOPMENf (SHRI santitary conditions of these areas inclu- BUT A SINOH) : (a) The World Food din, the toilet facilities are sought to be Programme has been providing com'uodity improved. Maternity assistance is avai- assistance in the form of wheat, pulses, lable under the health care programme. edible oil and skimmed milk powder Besides, in the towns now being taken up to the labourers worki~lg on the Indira under tbe programme for extending urban Gandhi Nahar (earlier known as Rajasthan basic services to the poor in selected Canal) since October, 1968. towns with UNICEF aid schemes for self- employment for women would also be (b) So far, the World Food Programme Taken up. has provided 102,000 MT of wheat and 10,000 MT of other commodities like oil (c) The programmes in this sector in and pulses at an estimated value of US S Calcutta are being implemented by the 28 million for the project for the purpose Calcutta Metropolitan Development referred to in (a) above. Presently an Authority. Under the Bustce Jmprove- average of about 25,000 workers are ment Project. Calcutta Metropolitan engaged daily on the project. The Development Authority is providing sani~ assistance from WFP is not an additionality tary and other community facilities in the to the project resource directly. Since slums in its area including Calcutta and the commodities are made avaiJabJe at Howrah. CMDA also proposes to imple- almost half of the market price of these ment an integrated community health commodities, this goes to improve his programme including maternal and child nutritional stand..lrds and his net carry care for hustee/slum dweHers and econo- home wage. mical1y weaker sections. Under the small scale entre.. prenaurship programme, the (c) This aid is provided in the form of CMDA is promoting self-employment' a gift by WFP and delivered free of cost among slum dwe])ers including women in export in this country. The State has to and around Calcutta and Howrah by meet the handling, transportation and arranging financial assistance/credit administration charges, if any, as well requirements through Banks. as submit a plan of use of generated funds which get generated on aClount of sale of Assistance Under W. F. P. for Development commodity assistance at half of the market of Rajasthan Canal Area price. According to information given by the State Government Rs. 12.17 crores 3045. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER has been generated so far, of whjch~ about JAIN : wm the Minjster of AGRICUL- Rs. 7.22 crores is likely to be utilised for TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT creation of social amenities and rural be pleased to state : infrastructure by June 1985 and the balance amount wjJI be utilised, on agreed (a) the nature of assistance avai1able to programmes, by 1988. from the World Food Programme for the development and completion of the Productivity of Pepper in India Rajasthan Canal Area and the Canal System; 3046. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (b) what would be the total contribu- RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to tion of the World Food Programme for state : the development of the Canal System and for the adjoining areas separately and (a) whether India has the lowest per bow many additional workers can be hectare productivity in pepper enlaged under this scheme; and (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and (0) the terms and conditions of the assistance and by what time it will be (c) the steps being taken to increase implemented ? productivity of pepper? 141 Wrltte" A"""ers 112 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (c) whether India purchased rice from AND RUR.AL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Burma in 1984-85 ; and .U,TA SINGH): (a) Productivity of pepper in India at the level of around (d) whether it is proposed to continue ~50 Kg./hectare is lower than those purchase of rice from Burma in future? obtaining in major pepper producing countries in the world. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (b) The reasons for the low producti. SJNGH) : (a) A quantity of 3.50 lakh vity of pepper are as follows :- tonncs of rice Was contracted for import from Burma in 1983-84. 1. Presence of large number of unproductive, senile, disease affec. (b) The total estimated FOB value of ted and pest infested vines in the this rice was US $ 67.90 rnil1ion and prden. average FOB cost US $ 194.00 per tonne. 2. Inadequate management of the (c) No. Sir. pepper gardens. (d) There is no proposal to import any (c) 1. A Centrally Sponsored Scheme for rice at prescnt. the maintenance of Punniyur-l pepper progeny garden and produc- Training Programme for Increasing tion of rooted cuttings therefrom Production of Ca'ihcwnut is being implemented In the Union Territories of Andaman & Nicobar 304S. SIIRI CHINTAMANI JENA Islands and Goa. SHRJ N. DENNIS: Will the Mlfllster of AGRICULTURE AND 2. Another Scheme with 100% finaT,cial RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pJe~lscd assistance from Government of to ~tut\.: : India is being implemented by the Kerala AgrjcultuTnl Umversity Hl (a) whet her a ~peclal production-cum- Kerala and Konakan Krishl VidYil- trai'lmg programme to mCf(.'''ISC the pro- peeth, Depoli 10 Mahara~htra. dllcllon of cashcwnuts in the ca~hl. wnut prouunng States h('~ been llndcrt~\ken ; 3. The ,Kerala Government has imple- mented a rejuvenation programme (b) if so, the IMmel) of such States covering 10,000 hectares of exi~ting whet e such rrograrnmc I" being under- pepper gardens and fresh planting taken ; ~ nd in 5000 hectares under St ... te sector during the Sixth Plan. (c) the dctdil~ of the programme and how fdr it will be helpful to lIlcrease the 4. Under the Kerala Agricultural production of cashcwnut? Development Project a pepper rehabilitation programme is bung THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE implemented covering 17,500 hu. in AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI the State. BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). A specjal PI ugr .dllme for increasing production of Purchase of Rice from Burma l'a~hew hac; been lc.ken up with World Bank aSbi\tancc 10 t he St~ttes of Kerala. 3047. SHRI G. G. SWELL: Will the Karnutaka, Andhra Pradesh and Orissa. Minister of FOOD AND CIVJL SUPP- L1ES be plc"sed to state: (c) The major activities under this (a) whether India purchased 500,000 programme are that an area of 53775 ha. has to be newly planted and 7S00 ha. of tons of rice from Burm~' in 1983·84 ; existing plnntation of cashewnut has Ito be (b) the total amount paid to Burma brought un.d-er improved oultivation pra(;- and the cost of the rice per ton ; tices. There is provision fot traioia. of )CBA~ 25; liJ07 (MICA) U4 field and supervlaory staft' on improv.ed of Indta and the Ford Foundation lIedn, on veletative propagation methods and behalf of Consultative Group on I,.ter- better cultivation technololY. Cashew natiQnai Agricultural Research, for the relle.relt i. being ItrcDgthend by impro- establishment of ICRISA T $igned in March, vin, aod expandJul Casbew Research 1972, the ICRISAT win serve as (a) a Stati.,ns 4lnd by establishing a new Station. world centre for the improvement of By new piantio, and impro¥cment of sorghum, millet, pigoonpea, chickpeQ.s and existing plantation and adoption of better groundnuts (b) a centre to promote the management practices it is expected that development and demonstration of impro- the production of cashew will go up con- ved cropping patterns and systems of siderably. farming which optimise the use of human and natural resources in the low rainfall, Slum Problem. In Goa unirrj~ated, seasonally dry and semi- 3049. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO arid tropics (c) a centre which may under- Will the Minister of WORKS AND take such other DroBramme or eMcnsions HOUSING be pleased to state : of these programmes as its Governing Board may determine. The major activi- (a) the details of the schemes to tackle ties of this Institute as provided in the the sluQl problems in the towns of Goa; Agreement hall inter-alia include (i) rese- and arch on practical and theoreticaJ problems including plant breeding related to the (b) the work done so far in this regard? production of the five mandate crops (ii) collection. evaluation, maintenance, mlni- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND puJation and distribution of basic germ- HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : pJasm and of improved plant materials (a) The State sector Scheme for the Envi- for use in breeding, improvement and ronmental improvement of Urban Slums production programmes of national and· is bci ng implemented in the towns of Goa. regional levels (iii) training of scientists Under the Schemet basic amenities like involved in research, educational and water supplYt street lighting, paving of action programmes (iv) pubJication and roads, drainage and sewerage, community dissemination of research results. baths and community latrines etc. are provided in urban slums. As seen from the Annual Reports pub- lished by ICRISAT, significant contri- (b) During tbe first four years of the butions have been made by ICRISAT in Si xth Plan, 17800 slum dwellers were the field of research, improvement of covered under the Scheme at an expcndi· farming systems, economics genetic resou- tllre of Rs. 27.68 lakhs. A further coverage rces and training of technicians/students/ of 4300 slum dwellers duriug 1984-85, upto scientists. It has on record significant February, 1985, has been reported by the achievements in respect of the five man- Union Territory. date crops including release of certain new varieties; on-farm verification studies Research Conducted By ICRISAT to test the applicability of ICRISAT's 3050. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will technology; substantial improvements the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND made in measures to reduce insect damage R URAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to on pigeonpea; holding a training work- state the nature of research bcing condu- shop on agroclimatologica] methodology cted by International Crops Research jointly with leAR; study of traditional Institute (lCRISAT) and how it has soil productivity maintenance practices; proved useful for the growth of Indian yieJd gap trials etc. which are only a few Agricul1ure ? worth mentioning amongst various other research achievements of ICRISAT in the THE ,MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE year 1984 itself. This International Ins- AND -aURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl titute has also a very aood collection of BUTA 'SINGH) : As per the Memorandum aermplasm Which has benefited Indian of AiroomeQt betWcOll t.he Government scientist. alao. l'S Writ". Auwer, APR.IL 1'. 198' Wrltt." rA.,Wl'.l CertllcatJea of FII•• durla, 1984 (c) the names of 11m. liven '5' cer- tificates? ~051. SHRt K. RAMAMURTHY : Will the Minister of INFORMATtON AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STAT! OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (a) the break-up of films-langtlage-wise BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. OAOOIL) and certificate-wise, censored during 1984; (a) The break-up of Indian feature films (language-wise and certificate-wise) cer- (b) whether more than SO percent of tified during the Calandar year 1984 is as Tamil BIrns had been given 'At certificate; fonows :- and S.No. Language Categories U UA A s Total 1. Hindi 94 26 45 165 2. Gl.Ijarati 29 1 30 3. Bhojpuri 9 9 4. Marathi 22 1 2 2S S. Punjabi 10 10 6. Haryanvi 4 4 7. Brijbhasha 8. Nepali 4 4 9. English 2 10. Oriya 12 2 14 11. Manipuri 2 2 12. Khasi 1 1 13. Assamese 5 5 14. Bengali 26 4 S 35 IS. Tamil 45 14 89 148 16. Tell.lgu 91 4 75 170 17. Kannada 40 5 36 81 18. TuJu 1 J 19. Malayalam 6S ]0 46 121 20. Rajasthani 2 2 21. Urdu 1 1 22. Garhwali 1 23. Sindhi 1 Total 46S 67 833 III CRAITIA 2J. I'" (SAKA) .18 (b) Y 08, Sir. 18. Anticbolineraics in Anaathesia: A matter of safety (Bnltish) (c) No Indian feature film was Ifanted CSt certificate. However t the following 19. Aorta Femoral with Meadox Coo)y documentary films has been granted'S' Double Velour Oraft (English) certificate in 1984. 1. Creative Dentiatry-Adap-tic (Enl- 20. Modified Human Umbilical Vein lish) Graft as access (or chronic baemo- dialysis (English) 2. Infection Control in Surgical Patients (Bnllish) 21. Femoral Perenea) Bypass with Glut. Raldelyde Stabilised Umbilicat 3. Sutures, Needless " Skin Closure Vein Graft (Enalisb) Materials (Eo,lish) 22. Femoral Popliteal Bypass with 4. Surgical Scrub Procedure (English) Gluta Haldelyde Stabilised Human Umbilical Vein Graft (English) s. Closed Cuff Method of Growing and Gloving Technique (English) 23. Meadox Dardio Biograft Technique for Untimal Results (English) 6. Proximate IQS Stapler (English) 24. Extra Anatomical Bypass Procedure 7. Control Release Needled Sutur~s (English) (English) 25. Surgery for Hydrosenhalus Usina 8. 'Pocus' Use of Antithrombotics In Upadhyaya Shunt (English) t ControJled Studies (English) 26. ExpJosion feats of a Lethpu)s Filter 9. Minilaparotomy Techniques (Eng- System with pressure reJief devices lish) (Silent) 10. Pelvic Examination for Contracep- 27. The Miracle of Life (English). tion (English) Flood Situation in the Country 1). Pashupalan (Hindi) 3052. SHRI B. V. DESAI: wm the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND 12. Pevronic's Deses Surgical Excision RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to Explain Actoaraph Turnica Viji- state : palies (Bnglish) (a) whether it has been found that 13. Management of Post Traumatic flood situation in 1984 has not been as bad Prost.tome-Hranous Urethral Stric- as it was during 1983 ; ture (Enalish) (b) if so, whether the total damase 14. Visits in Urology Revasculariq.tion reported by the States in regard to floods for Hypertension (Enllish) was nearly Ra. 595 crores upto September, 1984 ; 1S. Technique of Radial Repropublic Prostafectomy (Bullish) (c) if so, whether in 1983 the damage was estimated at Rs. 2,460 crores ; 16. Nephrostolithotomy: Per Cutaneous a.maval of Renal/Ureteral Stones (d) the names of the worst affected (En,lish) States in 1984 due to floods ; 17. Visits in Urolocy: Urinary Incon-- (e) whether all the States had tmonce in WOUl an and urinary tract communicated to Union Government the infections (Eolliab) cJamqo ca_ed due to ftoods in 1984 ; 120 "(I) to What extent th~ a.aiatanee was control works have been e)Ge<:uted by the provided t() these Sta.tes ; and State Governments upto March 1984 to protect an area ~f 12.8 million hectares ; (.) the steps Union Government are considering to meet the flood threat (0 Embankments 12531 km. during 1985 ? (ii) Drainalc channels 25942 km. (iii) Towns protected (No.) ~53 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELQ'pMENT (SHRI (iv) Raislnl of villages (No.) 4696 BUTA SINGH): (a) to (c). Accordmg to the information furnished by the State In addition, the Central Government Governments, the total damage to crops, has set up a flood Forecasting Organisa- houses aud public utilities was estimated tion to provide timely flood forecast in at Rs. 2495.75 erores in 1983 and all the major flood prone basins of the 1lB. 1653.26 crores in 1984 due to floods, country to enable the concerned authori- cyclone and heavy rains. ties for taking advance aetlon for relief and rescuc. Every year before the onset (d) and (e). The States of Andhra of monsoon, thIs MlOlstrY WrItes to all the Pradesh, Assam, Bthar. Gujarat, Haryana, States/Union Territories advjsing them to Karnataka, Kerala Madhya Pradesh. take advance preparatory measures on the Maharashtra, Manipur, Meghalaya, Orissa, baSIS of guidelmes given in the Model Rajasthan, Sikktm, Tamtl Nadu. Tripura. Action Plan on Disaster Preparedness. so Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal and Union that people are not caught unJware at the Territory of Pondlchel ry submitted infor- time of calamity. This year also a s,milar mation about the occurrence of floods and commUnIcatIOn will be sent before the cyclones durinl 1984. onset of monsoon so that the loss can be minimised by taking appropriate advance (0 The fo})owmg ceIlings of Central actIon In time. assistance were sanetlOnld to the flood/ cyclone affected States dunng 1984-85 :- Drought Assistance for Tamil Nadu 3054. SHRI B. V. DESA[ : WllI the States Rs. in crOTes Mimster of AGRICULTURE AND 1. Andhrd Pradesh 42.53 (l!lcludmg 12 79 RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to (for 1985-86) state: 2. Assam 39.12 3. Bihar 58.94 (a) the names of States which have 4. Karnataka Under process been affected by the drought; 5. KeraJa 21 33 6. MadhYd Pradesh 5 91 (b) the total Central assistance provi- 7. Mampur O.2R ded to the affected States so far and the 8. Meghalaya 1.76 other measures Central Government are 9. Orissa 23.43 considering for the drought de cted 10. Rajasthan 4.99 States; and 11. Sikkim 3.90 12. Tamil Nadu 27.96 (c) whether Tamil Nadu Government 13. Tripura 7.99 (including 0.69 has sought from the Centre Rs. 67 crores for 1985-86) to meet the drought situation in the State? 14. Uttar Pradcsh 47.89 IS. West Bengal 58.68 (mchlding 10.65 THE M1N1STER OF AGRICULTURE (for IIJ85-86) AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI 16. Pondicherry 019 BUTA SlNOH) : (a) During 1984",85, the State. of Andhra Pradesh. Himachal (8) Flood control 1& a State subject. Pradesh, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Requisite schemes for redudng flood Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Orissa and Uttar ravages arc formulated and executed by Pradesh had reported drouaht conditions the concerned State Governments under and requested for <;entral a ••is.nee for thoit SUte Plam. The follQwina aood drouaht rclief, t ' I u.., bOOD facinl hurdle in roprd i'q ,Q,) A oeiUoa of CenkaJ a"ist.nc~ 01 selection of beneficiaries fllOI11 amonl tbe R.s. 200.66 crores has bee n MJ)Ctioned ~o ffpoqfe~t of I the poor" lacking viability these States so far. For long-term for granting 10"11 as considered by tho measu(es, the Government have ,alreadY Bank authorities ; introQuced ftw $chc;mes, like. DrouBht Prone Area Prp.ramme, Disaster Develop- (b) whethtr (lovetnmeJ1t have conduc- ment Programme, Nationa I Rural Emplo),- ted/propose to conduct any survey to mett Programme, Rural Landless Employ- ascertain that the beneficiaries are mc! t GuaIontee Programme, Accelerated selected pursuant to the guidelines issued Hurtt! Watit SUI"~ly Progratnme, Minimum by Government in this respect ; and Needs Programme, IrlcenUve Bo,us Scheme, Dry-land Farming Scheme, etc. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? for rGducing the intensity of the drolllbt. THE M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) No, Sir. DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP., MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRA. Allocation or Funds ror Chest Clinic at KAR) : (a) Against a target of assisting Nimtlta in West Bengal 1 S million families during VIth Plan, upto 305S. SHRI ZAINAL ABEDIN : Will February. 1985, 15.6 million families had already been assisted under Integrated the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to Rural Developmcllt Programme. From state : this it will be clear that it has been possible to secure loan for selected (a) whether Government are aware beneficiaries from Banks. that the Chest Clinic at Nimtita in the Murshidabad district (W("st Bengal) canr40t (b) and (c). The Programme Evaluation play any meanirgful role towards the Organisation of the Planning Commission welfare of h:khs of becdi workers belo- has initiated an evaluation of the Integra- ngiqg to Murshidabad and MaIda districts ted Rural Development Programme in due to meagre amount of Rs. 15,000.00 1983 .. 84. The report is awaited. only allocated annually to it for medicine etc. ; Import of Edible 011 (b) if so, whether Government propose 3057. SHRI MOHAN LAL PATEL: to enhance the allocation to enable the SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA clinic to discharge its duties properly; Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL and SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (a) the names of the countries from whom the import of edible oil has been made ; THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) to (c). Rs. 39,032/- (b) the brand of edible oil imported have bfen spent on medicines in 1984-85 and at what rate ; and and after reviewing the functioning of the Chest Clinic, the amount sanctioned 'for (c) the Government's policy in regard medicina would if necessary be enhanced. to import of edible oil during 1985 to . meet the demand of edib Ie oil in the Selection or Beneficiaries Under IRDP country and the quantity likely to be 30'6. SHRI ZAINAL ABEDIN : Will iml'orted ? the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RU.R.AL DEVELOPMENT be ple,sed to THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL state : SUPPLiES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) and (b). The Government imports the Annexure.I 51. Name of the Indust- Members Meetings held No. rial Committees Constituted Central State Emplo.. Wor- 1982 1983 1984 Govts. Govts. yers kers 1. Industria) Committee 6 4 11 11 31.3.83 on Jute Industry (1st meeting) 2. I ndustrial Committee 3 7 10 10 19.3.83 on Plantations In- (1st meeting) dustry. 3. Industrial Committee 4 6 12 12 13.8.83 .... on Chemical Indus- (1st meetina) try. 4. Industrial Committee S 8 11 11 22.12.83 on Engineering In- (1st meetina) dustry. S. Industrial Committee 2 9 11 11 on Cotton Textiles. Aaaeure-D S""""ary 0/ importtlnt d~eI,jo"'lrecommendaIJon' (J/lndllslria/ Cominitlees. I ndllltritz/ Comm; It,e The Committee decided that the Government of West Benlal on Jute l"dustry. should immediately convene a tripartite meeting of the Trade Unions and Employers organisations of the Jute industry to dis.. cuss the charter of demands, non-implementation of agreement. awards in respect of work-load and revision of grades and scales of pay of jute mill workers given in 1979 by the State Labour Minister, and decide the matter within six months. The matter may be decided under the Industrial Disputes Act if the pro .. posed tripartite meeting fails to come to allY decision. The Labour Minister, West Bengal may convene a meeting to solve the issue of closures, Jock-out and lay-off of jute mWs in West Bengal and report the matter to the Central Government. Possi- ble steps for setting up of a legal cell tinder the Law Ministry in West Bengal, as well as adjustment of the amount which is lying with the Chief Controller of J mports and Exports for pay- ITcnt as subsidy to the Jute Mills against provident fund arrears by the defaulting mills, be taken. The Committee also decided that the Directorate General, F~ctory Advice Service and Labour Institutes would issue nece.. ssary guidelines on safety in the Jute Industry to State Govern- ments. State Governments would submit a Report on action tClkcn in this respe(.1. They would also strengthen the inspecting machinery itt the States. Industria/ Committee It was decided that the State Governmen ts which are on Plantations Indus- administering the PJcmtations Labour Act and Rules should make try. all efforts to secure full implementation of its legal provisions, and ensure adequate facilities of drinking water, medical facilities, creches etc. As regards housing facilities, in States, it was suggested that the problems should first be discussed in the Housing Advisory Boards/Committees of the respective States, and their recommendations should be forwar- ded to the Ministry of Works and Housing. After obtaining their comments~ the matter should be further processed by the Ministry of Labour wth the Ministry of Finan ceo For taking over of closed and sick gardens by the Central Government, it was suggested that the representatives of workers and employers may prepare a memorandum on the matter and submit it to the Ministers of Finance and Commerce. This may be followed by a meeting with the concerned Ministers, so that the problem facinl the Plantation Industry could be brought to their attention. Industrial Committee Regardina retrenchment, layoff, lockout and closures in on Chemica/Industry. Rayon and Staple Fibre Industries, the Committee decided that a note on this item be prepared and referred to the Ministry of Commerce for their examination. It was decided that uraent and appropriate measures should be taken to provide safeluards alainst pollution. I TrQ"flQtion] sugar factories in the cooperative sector, at the national level. However, seneral Seitblc up of TV Ceatrel representatiol1l have been ~eoeived from time to time, from various associationsl 3059. SHRI DALCHANDER JAIN bodies and individual sUlar fp.ctori" Will the Minister of INFORMATION durin. the current seasoll in fCSPoc:t of A ND BROADCASTING be pleased to problems facinl the sector and for revi- st~te: the steps taken by Government sing the levy prices. The various points to sH up Television centres in the areas r nd suggestions have been looked at. sHeil as Pannu and Damoh Districts, where Keeping all factors in view, including the r.earby areas have no Television Centres need for sugar mills to pay remunerative at aU ? cane price to growers, Government have notified revised levy prices with effect THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE from 1st Aprd, 1985. MINISTRY OF INFORMATION & BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL): TV servke in the country is being expan- Supply of Essential Commodities ded in a phabed manner, depending on the Co Gujarat availability of resources. Provision of TV uncovered areas, including service to 3061. SHRI C. D. GAMIT: Will the Panna and Damoh will thus depend on Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUp· the actual allocation of resources Cor PLIPS be pleased to state: TV expansion during the future Plan periods. (a) the quantIty of flee, wheat, sugar, coarse grains, kerosene and edible oil locreasecl Price for Levy Sugar demanded by the Government of GUJarat 3060. SHRI C. D. GAMIT: Will in each quarter during January, 1984 to the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- December, 1984 ; PLIES be pleased to state: (b) the quantIty of these commod.ltie~ sanctioned and the quantIty thereof (a) whether in VltW of the unremu- nerative pnce being gIven to cane growers actually supplied; and the management of cooperatlve sugar mills has made a demand for increased (c) the reasons for not meetlIlg the price for levy sligar and permIssion for demand made by GUJarat ? increasing the quota of non .. Jevy sugar; and THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (b) If .so, the reaction of Government SINGH): (a) and (b). A statement 111- thereto 1 dlcating the mformatlOn IS attached. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND (c) Allocations of foodgrains and edi.. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDR.A bJe OIJ~ are only supplemental In nature SINGH): (a) and (b). No 8Ulh specific to open market ava,ilabllity. Position J1l demand has been received from the respect of other commoditIes is explal" National Federation of Cooperative Sugar ned In the statemen t referred to Factories Ltd. WhICh IS the apex body for above. W,ltten Auwels GrA1TRA 2S, '~7 ('SAU) sate.e.t Demand. QIIOlm~nt and oJftake of Rice, Wheal, Sligar, Coarse grain" Kero.", lind Edible 011 in eath quarter during January, 1984 10 December, 1984. (Figures III '000 IOIIIIe6) Items January to April to July to October to March, 1984 June, 1984 Sept., 1984 Dec., 1984 Rice Demand 75.0 75.0 7S.0 15.0 Allotment 22.S 22.S 22.S 22.S Offtake 21.7 24.6 23.S 22.0 Wheat Demand 84.5 95.7 99.8 121.7 ABotment 89.4 89.4 111.6 122.7 Offtake 18.S 28.9 37.S 50.3 Sugar Demand • • • • AJJotment (%) 46.1 46.1 46.1 46.1 Offtake @ @ @ @ Kerosene Demand £ £ £ £ Allotment 138.2 128.9 127.6 144.2 Offtake 137.9 128.7 126.7 143.9 (SaJes) Edible Demand+ 26.0 26.0 26.0 26.7 Oil Allotment 14.S 16.8 24.0 23.0 Offtake 4.9 19.8 25.7 19.8 Course Grains: There is no regular demand or allotment. * The allocation of monthly levy sugar quota is not based on requirement or demand received from the State Government, but is based on 425 srams per capita availability for a projected population as on 1.10.1983. % Does not include small quantities allotted to BSF/CRPF. @ The State Government is itself arranging the lifting of allotted levy IUlar (rom the factories through their nominees. £ The demand/requirement of kerosene of various States/Union Territories inclu- dina Gujarat is assessed by allowing S% growth over the allocations made durina the correspondina period of previous year on a four month block basis. Besides regular allocation, additional adhoc releases are also made to meet specific situations like flood, drou,ht, cyclone, shortase of L. P. o. aDd .oft coke. + Calculated on quarterly avetaae basfa. Meet.... or Hladl Ad.taory CODUDittee particularly to tbole belonlins to" the 3062. SHRI KRISHAN PRATAP weaker sections of the society ? SINGH : 'Will the Minister of AGRI- THE MINISTER OP FOOD AND C)VIL CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP· SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : MENT be pleased to state: (a) and (b). The small packs are handed over to the State Governments or the (a) the number of meetings of Hindi agencies' nominated by them Which are AdvilOIY Committee of his Ministry held free to sell them through fair price shopsl in 1P84 ; Cooperative Outlets in the cities as well as in rural areas. InitiaIJy. this scheme (b) the resolutions passed in these was operated in four metropolitan cities, meetings; and Bombay, Calcutta, Delhi and Madras but noW it has been extended to various (c) tbe details regarding implementa- locations in twenty States/Union tion of these resolutions '/ Territories. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (c) Hindustan Vegetable Oils Corpo- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ration, a public sector undertaking, is BUTA SINGH) : (a) One meeting of the packilJg the imported edible oils in small HINDI Advisory Committee of the packs. The Corporation has set up Ministry of Agriculture was held during packing units in various States. 1984. (d) Yes, Sir. (b) and (c). The Committee did not pass any resolution as such in the meeting. Plots Allotted by DDA Still Lying Vacant However, the Committee reviewed the 3064. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: progress aud stressed the need to increase Will the Minister of WORKS AND the use of Hindi in official work. HOUSING be pleased to state: [En,U&IJ) (a) whether certain plots of land in Delhi allotted by DDA through draw of Sappa, of Smail-pack. of edible oU. In Rural Areal lots in 1975-76 are still lying vacant and the allottees have not so far started 3063. SaRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: construction of buildings; and Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (b) the measures Government propose to take to ensure that these allottees do (a) whether Government have taken not sell their plots of land on high- a decision to extend the supply of small premium on general power of attorney? packs of refined imported edible oils to sman towns and rural areas to reduce the THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND pressure of demand for this commodity i:s HOUS1NG (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): city markets ; (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the details in this regard; (b) As a matter of precaution Delhi Administration have stopped the registra- (c) whethel directions have been tion of General Power of Attorney issueQ for providing better service to the involving transfer of land. As per tbe consumers by decentralising and expan- terms of lease deed the allottees are not dina the packing of imported edible oils permitted to reseH or transfer their riahts in States ; and on the plot within a period of 10 years except with the approval of L.G. of (d) whether Government ha ve also Delhi. DDA takes action for terminatina considered the need and stressed that the the lease of. the allottees concerned, as Public Distribution System should be so and wllon contravention of h~u4 t~~ ... or streamlined so as to ensure access of transactions baled on power of attorney essential commodities to the consumers, come to tbeir notice. WrttlMl ..""" CHArtRA U. lt07 (SAltA) 114 Sa"., ofVeptab.. GIaee .. Delhi (0) To ensure availability of Yeuspad ,hee in the open market, Goverament i. 306' .. SHJlI RAM BAIlADUR SINGH: monitoring vanaspati production and Itu SRRI KALI PRASAD PANDBY: fixed uniform maximum retail price Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL throu,hout the country. In addition, SUPPLIES be pleased to state : State Governments/Union Territory Ad· (a) whether the prices of vegetable ministrations have been advised that they ghee in Delhi have been fixed in consulta.. can procure about 30% of vanaspad pro- tion with the vanaspati ghee manu- duced in their respective jurisdiction to facturers ; se)) through State Government nominees or through Public Distribution System. (b) if so, the neW prices fixed; The Union Territory Administration, (c) efforts proposed to be made to Delhi has made arrangements for sale of ensure adequate availahility of vanaspati vanaspati ghee through all braachel of ghee in the open market ; Super Bazar, Wholesale Consumer Coope.- rati ve Store, Kendriya Bbandart Delhi (d) whether in the past the ration card State Civil Supplies CorporatioD and holders could obtain one big tin of National Cooperative Consumers' Fede- vanaspati ghee per month for their actual ration. The product is also sold throulh use; mobile vans in the Government colonies (e) whether this facility has been and colonies inhabited by the weaker withdrawn by the Delhi Administration ; sect ion of the society. jf so, the reasons therefor; and (d) to (0. Accordina to Delhi Admi- (f) whether Government proposed to nistration, the facility for supply of one restcre the facility to the people of Delhi tin of vanaspati per month to the ration and if so, when and if not, the reasons card holders was discontinued in April, therefor 1 1984. due to mal-practices by whole- salers. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA Storage Capaeity of FCI SINGH): (a) As a result of the dis- 3066. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: cussions held with the two Associations Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL of Vanaspati Manufacturers, a voluntary SUPPLIES be pleased to state: price aareement is beiDa observed by the industry. (a) the storage capacity available With the Food Corporation of India ; (b) Presently, the maximum retail prices (excluding local taxes) of various (b) what efforts have been made to packs have been fixed as follow: increase the storage capacity ; and (In Rupe~s) (c) whether it is proposed to export Pacis Maximum Retail Prices the surplus quantity of foodarains ; if 10. 'the details thereof? 20 ka. tin 318.00 15 tl. tiD 244.50 THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND 10 tin 171.60 ta. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA 10 poly jar 169.10 t,. SINGH): (a) The covered storale 5 kl. tin 90.00 capacity with the Food Corporation of 5 kl. poly jar 87.20 Jodia, owned and hired taken tOleth... 1 kl. tin 39.00 was 192.6 lakh tonnes as on 31.12.1984. 2 ~I. poly jar 37.00 1 kl. poly jar 18.75 (b) Tho capacity available with the 1 ka. pouch 16.70 Corporation, both owued and hiroci, bas -I kl. tteuch 8.60 increased from 161.8 lath toDD•• 1 .. ilS Wrltt'" A",.,ers Al'R.IL 11. 19~ W,ltte" ~." tH M.3.1NO to 192.6 lakh tonnes as on (b) Yel~ Sir, 31.'12.1984. that is, by 30.8 Jakh tonnes. "he Corporation is expected to construct (c) and (d). The Central Warehousing an additiopaI ~apacity of IS.25 lakb ton· Corporation is expected to compl etc nes during 1985-86 and is also making storage capacity of 6.00 lakh tonnes dur. drorts to hire additional capacity from ring 1985-86. The approved outlay for tbe Central Warehousing Corporation, 1985-86 is Rs. 18.52 crores. The target State Warehousing Corporations and and the outlay for the Seventh Five Year other sources. In addition, the Corpora- Plan are under finalisation. tion is making temporary storage arrange- ments in .the form of cover-aDd·plinth Defective TV Relay from Jamsbe4lpar (CAP) storage facilities to the extent re- DoordanbaD quired. 3068. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH WiJI the Minister of INFORMATION (c) It has been decided to supply one AND BROADCASTING be pleased to lakh tonnes of wheat as aid to some of state : the drought-affectod A frican countries. In the Indo-Soviet Trade Protocol, a provi- (a) whether he had received a repre" sion has been made for export of five sentatton from General Secretary of Jam" lath tonnes of wheat to USSR. The shedpur Citizens' Council, Jamshedpur Oovernment may also export more wheat (Bihar) for rectifying the defects of TV from the country, if necessary and feasi- relay from Jamsbedpur Doordarshan ; and ble. (b) if so, steps taken by Government Stooge Capacity of Warehoulmg to remove the defects ? Corporation THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3067. SHRIMATI JAYANTJ PAT- MINISTRY OF INFORMATION &. NAIK: Will the Minister of FOOD BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.OADGIL) : AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to (a) Yes, Sir. state : (b) Interference in the transmissions (a) the main purpose of the establish- of TV relay transmitter at Jamshedpur ment of Central Warehousing Corpora- due to the operation of some local signal tion ; equipment in the frequency band approv- ed for TV has since been rectified by (b) whether Central Warehousing Cor- vacating the operation of the signal equip- poration is ioing to create additional ment in that frequency band. storage capacity under the public ware- housina scheme ; Implemea tatlon of NREP 3069. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER (c) jf so, the extent of additional JAIN: Will the Minister of AGRICUL. storage capacity proPolicd to be created TURE & RURAL DEVELOPMENT by the Central Warehousing Corporation be pleased to state : in 1985 .. 86 and in Seventh Plan; and (a) whether progress of the implemen- (c) the funds earmarked therefor ? tation of National Rural Employment Programme in States has met the objeo.. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND tives of the programme; CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH); (a) The Central Warehousing (b) whether Government propose any Corporation bas been established with a further improvements in the lehemo to view to providing warehousing facilities make it more successful ; and at suitable places for storale of agricultu· ral produce, fertiUHrs and certain other (c), whether Government propoN to ~ema. iAcreaae tho 'I'uantum of fund ? \1 THB MfNIST81t 'DP STATE IN THE Indian labourers working in Liby.l; Baha~' DEPARTMENT OF R.URAL DBV8LOP.. rain, Qatar. U.A",B.. the OU~f ,coantrJ.. , MBNT (SHit I CHANDULAL CHAN.. I>ItAICAlt): (a) The prolreas of im.. (b) whether ~hese labourers have bees pJiementation of NREP in dift'erent Statesl employed in private alencies or companioe UTI. has by and large been satisfactory who arc paid Jess there as compare4 to and the programme objectives have gene- the labourers from Europe and other rally been achieved. Asian countries ; and (b) All efforts are being made to im- (c) if so, whether in order to avo.+d prove the implomentation of the program.. discrimination and economic exploitation me. No basic changes are, however, of these labourers Government woeld proposed in the prQgramme content at hold negotiations with the embassies of prcs~nt. these countries so as to arrive at some justified conclusion ? (c) The Central Government's budget for 1985-86 proposes a sum of Rs. 230 THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI crores for NREP. This is lat the same T. ANJIAH) : (a) The number of Indian level as 1984-85 and will be enhanced workers, skilled and unlilkilled. presently later, if required. working in Libya, Baharain, Qatar, BroadcastJng of Parliament News UAE and the Gulf Countries is as under: 3070. SHRJ V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO: Will the Minister of INFORMA- U.A.E. 2, 000 TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased so, to state: Saudi Arabia 2,40,000 (a) whether "Parliament news" at Kuwait 1,15,000 present is being broadcast in Hindi and Oman J ,00,000 English languages only ; and Qatar 40,000 (b) if so, whether Government pro- Libya pose to take necessary steps for broad- 40,000 casting Parliament news every day during Baharain 30.000 the Session periods through the A.I.R. Stations in every State in their respective Yemen Arab Republic 8,000 Official language 1 People Democratic Republic of Yemen 2,000 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.GADGIL) : (b) Indian workers are employed in (a) Yes, Sir. these countries both in private as wen as public and Governmental agencies. Th~ (b) No, Sir. Today ill Parliament or wages of these workers compare favour- Sansad Sameeksha is relayed by all the ably with those paid the workers of Asian countries while wages of Indian workers stations in the net work. . are by and large lower than the wages [Translation] paid to the corresponding categories of European workers. Skill. and Unskilled Indian Workers In Gulf Countries (c) Whenever any instance of discrimi- 3071. PROF, NIRMALA KUMARI nation or economic exploitation of these SHAKTAWAT: \Vill the Minister of workers comes to the notice of the LABOUR. be pleased to state: Government, the matter js taken up with I the Government of the country concerned, Ca> tho Dumber of skilled and unskilled throu ah Indian Missions. IS' APR.IL 15. I,.S Wrltl'.~ 140 (&11"") for cbarterin, fordan tiahin. tra.lers bave been issued to 21 companies for 83 VCA"I Llcellee. fer ... Pore.. Fish.... Ve_11 during 1984 and 1985. However. permi... 3072. SHRI D. P. JADEJA: Will the have been issued only to 5 comPa",.. ,. Minister of AGRICULTURE AND public sector undertaking to ch~rter 11 RU1tAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to vessels durina 1984 and 1985. ttate : the details regarding companies (b) Statement is attaohed. which have received approval for charter- in, forciln fishing trawlers in 1984 and (c) The Charter Policy is governed 1985 ; by the provisions of the Maritime Zones (b) tbe particulars of Directors of of India (Regulation of fishing by foreisn sllch companies; and vessels) Act, 1981 and the rules framed thereunder. The policy aims at augmen- (c) the reasons for granting such char- ting the fleet of deep sea fishing vessels tered licences for using foreign fishing through obligatory purchase by Indian vessels? charterers; transfer of technology; THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE establishing overseas markets for uncon- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ventionaJ fishes and; establishing the BUTA SINOH): (a) Letters of intent economic viability of deep sea fishing. Statement Sl. Name of the Company No. of vessels No. for which per- mits issued 1. Mis Kerala Fisheries 1 Shri R.C. Choudhury Corporation Ltd., Shri P .S. Kumara Das Ernakulam. Shri Robi John Nayagom Shri K.K. Vijayakumar Shri K. Parameswaran Dr. C. C. Panduranga Rao Shri R. Satiarajah Shri V.K. Hussain Shri K. Soman 2. MIs Coastal Trawlers 2 Shri C.H. Kelappan Limited, Kakinada Shri T. Rajive Shri T. Vaisaraj (M.D) Shri B.R.Sastri-Tech. Director Shri T.V.S.Seshagir Rao 3. MIs G.P. Marine Products 4 Shri O. Parandhamaiah India Pvt. Ltd., Guntur. Shri G. Punniah-(M.D.) Shri O. Sivaran Prasad Shri K. Sudhir 4. Mis Kanchanaganga Sea Foods 2 Shri Adusumilli Bhimanja- Pvt. Ltd, ViJayaw.lda neya Chowdhary Dr. M. Jaswant Mohan Shri A. Seetharam Rao Shri Kamineni Taraka Prasad. 5. MIs Leo Sea Food Pvt. Ltd., 2 Shri Shamsher Singh (M.D.) New Delhi. Shri 1.M.Bhandari-Tech. Dir. Shri R.S. Zari-Operations pjrector of VI Plan, was llpprove4 in Juh<~ 1983. Population of one lakh and above was 3073. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : one of the major factor$ for deci~n, Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE locations of transmitters. , \ ~ 1 AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea. (b) 127 TV transmitters were set up sed to state : durin, 1984-85, bringiDI the total number of TV transmitters, at present fUDctionift, (a) whether ICRISAT has ,ot its in the country. to 112. No TV transmitter branches in J & K~ Uttar Pradesh, Jodh- has so far been commissioned durin. pur and Gwalior ; and 198'-86. (b) the total annual expenditu re of (c) The amount spent on .eUing ~ this institution and its branches? TV transmitters durin, 1982-83 and 1983- 84 and the foreign exchange compoaeot THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE thereof released by this Ministry are liven AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI below:- BUTA SING H): (a) International Crops Research Institute for the Semi- Year Total amount Foreign exchange arid Tropics does not have any Branches spent released for im- as such in India. However it has colla- ports borative programmes amongst others in 1982-83 Rs. 1093.52 lakhs Rs .• '4.36Iaklu J&K, Uttar Pradesh and Gwalior. It has 1983-84 3113.35 lakhs 124.61 got no such programme in Jodhpur. Rs. Rs. )akhs (d) No officer of Doordarshan was (b) The total expenditure of the tramed abroad in connection with pJan- ICRISAT global programme was around ning or implementation of the Special 20.9 million US Dollins during 1984. Plan proj ects. Opening of New TV Transmitter Centres [Trans/at ion] 3074. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Compensation paid to heirs of worker. \V ill the Minister of INFORMATION died io ractories due to accidents & BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 3075. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : (a) whether in 1981 it was decided to Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased open 220 TV transmJtting centres having to state: population of one lakh or more ; (a) State-wise number of workers died in harness on account of accidents in fac- (b) if so, how many of these have tones during the years 1981, 1982 and 1983 ; been opened and stations which started transmission during 1984-85 and 1985 .. 86 ; (b) the number of the deceased in whose cast.s compensation has since been (c) amount spent for installing TV given to their heirs ; transmitting centres during 1982-83 and (c) amount of compensation paid to 1983·84 and the amount spent on imports ; the heirs of each of the deceased so far ; and (d) the number of the deceased in (d) how many officers got training whose cases compensation has not been abroad in the line and the expenditurt. given so far; and incurred on their training ? (e) the reasons therefor in details ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI MINISTRY OF INFORMATION &. T. ANJIAH): (a) to (e). The infOl11la .. BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N.OADGIL) : tion is being collected from the State (a) A Special TV Expansion Plan, aiming Governments/Union Territory Adminis- to increase the total number of TV trans- trations and will be placed on the table of mitters in the country to 180 by the end Lok Sabba in due course, 141 APRIL 1'. 1985 Balle Aaealdel to Slam »wellen THE MINISTBR OF WOllKS AND fa tIae eouatry HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : 3076. SMRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (a) No comprehensive survey has been Will the Minister of WORKS AND made at all-India level to identify tbe HOUSING be pleased to state : total number of people in the country living in slums where basic amenities are (a.) the total number of people in the not available. However, on the basis of qo\lDtry livin, ill slums where basic ame- tentative estimates of slum dwellers made nities at'c Dot available ; by the State Governments, the number of (b) whether a scheme for slums was slum dwellers in the country is around 28 prepared under the Sixth Five Year Plan million. tt.at at least one crore people Jiving in (b) Yes, Sir. city alums shouJd get the benefit of envi- (c) A Statement indicating State-wise ronmntal improvement ; and details of expenditure and number of slum (c) if so, the amount spent on slums, dwellers covered during the Sixth Five city-wise and State-wise, and the number Year Plan period is given in the Annexe. of people benefitted thereby '1 City-wise details are not available. Statement Amount spent and number of slum dwellers benefitted under the Environmental Improvement of Urban Slum Scheme (EIUS) during the Sixth Plan S1. No. State/tIT A mount spent on No. of people bene.. EIUS (1980-81 to fitted 1980-81 to 1983-84) 1984-85) upto Feb., (Rs. In lakhs)* 1985 1. Andhra Pradesh 1832.80 1506078 2. Assam 45.00 36285 3. Bihar 209.00 183087 4. Oujarat 234.99 356156 S. Harayana 350.00 291758 6. Himachal Pradesh 51.88 37514 7. Jammu & Kashmir 559.00 173293 I. I(erala 275.16 90114 9. Karnataka 549.25 282231 10. Madhya Pradesh 417.09 371761 11. Maharashtra 2229.52 1173468 12. Manipur 13.42 6243 13. Maghalaya 18.77 22047 14. Orissa 116.49 89350 15. Punjab 445.00 555318 16. Rajasthan 438.55 316538 17. Sikkim 10.00 18835 18. Tamil Nadu 1416.59 1059094 19. Tripura 28.30 23720 20. Uttar Pradesh 830.40 839278 21. West Bengal 2176.69 666000 STATES TOTAL 12248.50 8196268 22. Delhi 825.00 683748 23. Goa 2768 22100 24. Mizoram 18.60 25000 25. Pondicherry ~5.22 6J2oo UT TOTAL 906.50 792048 GRAND TOTAL 13155.00 8988316 • The fl,ures of expeuditut'e are provisional and the expenditure fipres for 1948-8' are DOt yet available. 146 (En,ll_' I r (b) dte proaramme prQpoIed to be im- plemented durina tlte Seventh 'Ian laa'tMe ID Le" Pra of ,..... t, Rb ita Oria.. •...... (R,./per quintal) Transportation delays in supply of Rlee to Mizoram Wheat Paddy Bajra 3079. SHRI LAL DUHOMA : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Com- Fine S.Fine PLIES be pleased to state : mon (a) whether large quantity of rice allot- 1982 .. 83 142/- 122/. 126/- 130/. 118/. ted for Mizoram used to remain undespa- tchcd for a long time from the B. G. Points 1983·84 IS1/- 132/· 136/· 140/- 124/- of Gauhati and New Bongaigaon causing starvation to the people of Mizoram ; 1984·85 152/- 137/· 141/- 145/· 130/- (b) whether the carrying contractors 1985 .. 86 157/- Not announ- Not an- are very often asked to collect rice from ced. nounced. places other than Gauhati where Mizoram Government do not have carrying contracts (c) Yes, Sir. causing great inconvenience; Agrleultanl Development Proeranuae (c) dates of railway walons booked for for 011_ transportation of rice / wheat from New Bongaigaon and Gauhati and dates of the 3078. SHRI lAOANNATH PATTNAIIC: . arrival of those wagons at the destination Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE at Silchar between December 1984 and AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea- February 1985 ; and sed to sta te : (d) measures taken/proposed to be taken tile Contrally SponlOred Aaricultu .. for better coordination in the transportation ral Development Prolrammes proposod to of rice/wheat/supr through Railways and be ilJlPlementcd durbla tho Seventh Five Roadways to enable timely aad regular Year Plall ; aa4 delivery at tho destination i.e. Silcb.ar? 147 Wrlttell Allswers APltlL I!, 1M! Written AlflWUs 148 THB MINISTER OF FOOD AND Dlltrell ..Ie of Gin.. In Mlzo..... CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). Normally food- 3080. SHRl LAL DUHOMA: Will grains are supplied to Mizoram from Food the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Corporation of India's depot at Silchar. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to In view of the limited oarrying capacity of state: the R.ailways over the Lumding-Badarpur Section, and in order to supplement rail (a) the existing average wholesale a'ld movement, the movement of foodgrains by retail prices of lil1ler in Delhi, Calcutta road from Gauhati and other broad gaule and Gauhati ; points is sometimes resorted to. Mizoram Government has recently agreed to lift 2000 (b) whether Government are aware that tonnes rice a month from Gaubati and there is a distress sale of ginger in Mizoram other broad gauge terminals. The balance as a result of which ginger growers have quantity of rice is supplied from Silchar incurred a heavy Joss; depot. Food Corporation of India has also appointed contractors for moving food- (c) if so, reasons for fall in the prices ; grains from Gauhati and New Bongaigaon and to Silchar. (d) action taken to help ginger growers of Mizoram to find better markets? (c) Date-wise details of ra ilway wagons booked from New Bongai~aon and Gauhati and their date-wise arnva) at S]khar are THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE not readily available. The foHowing num- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ber of wagons were released at SiJcbar bet- BUTA SINGH): (a) There is fluctuation In the price of ginger in terminal and retail ween December. 1984 and February, ]985 :-.. markets. However, the wholesale rate of ginger per quintal depending upon quality ranges between Rs. 180/- and Rs, 200/- in Calcutta: Rs. 200/- and Rs. 250/- in Month No. of wagons released Delhi: and Rs. 1001- and Rs ] 20/ - in Gallhati. The retail price in Delht is rulmg between Rs. 3/- and Rs. 5/- per Kg. Rice Wheat Total (b) and (c). Higher production, larger marketed surplus and market distortjons December, 1984 456 711 are causing fall in prices of ginger in Mizoram. In the open market, the far- January, 1985 333 323 656 mers are reportedly being offered lower prices than the price paid by the Mizoram February, 1985 198 342 540 Cooperative Marketing Federation (MIZO- FED). (d) For a better co-ordination in the (d) In order to help ginger growers, transportation of foodgrains and sugar, the proposal of the Mizoram Administra- instructions have been issued to allow tion for market intervention operation has Mizoram Government to lift rice stocks been agreed to. The intervention opera- from Gauhati and other broad gauge points tions are heing carried out by the imple- by road; to arrange inter-depot movement menting agency, namely the Mizoram in consultation with the Railways; to ex- Cooperative Marketing Federation. The plore the possibiJity of movi,lg foodgrains scheme envisages that ginger of fair average through river route to Karimganj for sup- quality would be purchased at Rs. 200/- plies to Mizoram. Railways have been per quintal at Aizwal by MIZOFED to requested to augment despatch of food- provide market su pport to ginger growers. grains to North Eastern region and the To begin with, MIZOFED has been autho- position is being constantly monitored. rised to purchase up to 2S,000 quintals, 149 CHAITR.A 25, lSJ01 (SAKA) 150 Calla ,.,...t to .. Beadc.... [En II/,ll] .... IROP Adequcy of Warehousing In Iudl. 3081. ~HRI LAL DUHOMA : Will 3083. SHRI BANWART LAL BAIRWA: the Minister of AGRICULTURE & Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to SUPPLIES be pleased to state : state : (a) the development of warehousing whether Government would consider schemes in India during the last five years; making cash payment to the benefi- ciaries under IRDP to avoid corrupt (b) whether it has been able to cover practices? the whole country by having adequate warehouses in the country; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- (c) if 11ot, how do Government pro- MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND- pose to correct this deficiency; and RAKAR): No, Sir. No such proposal is under consideration of the Government (d) the details of the scheme? of India. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND [Trails/at ion] CIV1L SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) The Central Warehousing Implementation of agreement with United Corporation and the 16 State War(;!housing Bank of India and Labour Organisations Corporations are jointly engaged in the development of warehousing facilities in 3082. SHR] NARESH CHANDRA the country. The number of warehouses CHATURVEDI: Will the Minister of with these Corporations, owned and hired LABOUR be pleased to state : taken together, increased from 1,330 as on 31.3.1980 to 1,525 as on 31.1.1985. During (a) whether an agreement was signed this period, their covered storage capacity, on 8 May, 1984 between the management owned and hired together, increased from of United Bank of India and its two labour 81.0 lakh tonnes to 112.8 lakh tonnes. organisations namely, United Bank of India Sharamik Karamchari Samiti and (b) to (d). The Central and the State United Bank of India Employees Union Warehousing Corporations have set up the with the mediation of Chief Labour Com- warehouses at various places in the missioner, Delhi; country keeping in view the business potential and operational considerations. (b) if so, whether the agreement has Addition to warehousing capacity is under- been implemented in full ; and taken to meet the increasing requirements and is a continuous process. During 1985- (c) if not, the reasons therefor and 86, these Corporations are expected to which side is violating the agreement? construct an additional capacity of 12.0 lakh tonnes. THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) Following an under- Shortfall In achieving the targets of standing reached between the Unions lRDP in West Bengal which start ed agitations and the manage- ment of United Bank of India on 8·.5.84 3084. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN and subsequent discussions, the matter has Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE & been taken up in conciliation. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pJeased to state : The Conciliation Proceedings are in (a) whether there has been shortfa 11 in progress. lnstructions have been issued the matter of achieving the Sixth Plan to the CLC to expedite the finalisation of targets for bringing the rural poor in West the proceedings. Bengal above poverty line through Inte- grated Rural Development Programme (b) ud (e). Do not arise. and other allied programmes ; 151 Written Answers APRIL, 15. 1M' WIi"'" ..4Jt.swera 1'2 (b) if so, the details thereof; a'nd Rural Landless Employment GUarantee Programme are the major poverty allevi- (c) whether such beneficiaries who ation programmes under implementation despite assistance could not come above in West Bengal. A statement showing the the poverty 1ine during the Sixth Plan Sixth Plan Targets and achievements made period would be provided further assis- under these programmes in West Bengal tance in the Seventh Plan to enable them is annexed. to go above the poverty line ? (c) Yes, Sir. It is proposed to provide additional assistance under the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Integrated Rural Development Programme DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- to deserving families who failed to MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND- deri\e substantial incremental income to RAKAR): (a) and (b) The Integrated cross the poverty line from the assistance Rural Development Programme, National provIded during the Six.th Plan for no Rural Employment Programme and the fault of their oWn. Statement Sixth Plan fargets and Qchiev~ments under lRDP. NREP and RLEGP in West Bengal. 1. Integrated Rural Development Targets Achievements Programme: No. of families to be assisted (in lakh Nos.) 10.05 5.82 (upto January, 85) 2. National Rural Fmployment Programme: Employment generation (in lakh mandays) 1060.24* 1349.14 (upto February, 8S) 3. Rural Landless [mployment Guarantee Progr~\mme : Employment generation (in lakh man days) 301.02** 37.04 (upto February, 8S) * No target was fixed for 1980·81. .* RLEGP was started w.e.f. 15.8.83. No target was fixed for 1983-84. Wrlttell Anlwe."s Maoda)rs JOlt In Wel* Bengal dft to kptry of Lease of Hyderahd How.. Strikes, Lockouts ",d Closure. 3086. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Will the Miristcr of WORKS AND 308S. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN HOUSJNG be pJeased to state: Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: (a) whether Hyderabad House, New Delhi Was leased out to Government of (a) whether during the past few years India in 1954 and the lease has expired on West Bengal has consistently remained on the 14 July, J 961. the top among the States/Union Territories of india in the matter of mandays lost (b) whether Government of Andhra due to lockouts, closures and strikes Pradesh have approached vide their letter No. 347J/GHI/68-J92dated 10 May, 1984 to (b) if so, the details thereof; release Hyderabad House Immediately; and (c) what were the principal causes for Joss of mandays, lockouts and closures in (c) if so, whether Central Government propose to release Hyderabad House aod the State during the past three years; if not, the reasons thereof? (d) what was the share of Public Sec- THE MINJSTER OF WORKS AND tor in the Joss of m~:ndays in the State during the past three years; and HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) Yes, Sir. (e) the steps, if any, taken/proposed (b) Yes, Sir. to be taken to improve industrial relations in the State? (c) No, Sir. The Central Government has been considering the purchase of this THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI property. T. ANJIAH): (a) to (c). According to information received in the labour Bu- Import of edible oils reau, among the States, West Bengal 3087. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA accounted for the highest number of WiJJ the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL mandays lost only in the case of lockouts; SUPPLIES be pJeased to state: which accounted for 15.6 miJIion out of 22.5 million in 1982. 14.4 million out of (a) whether the imported edible oil is 21.9 miJJion in 1983 and 7.8 mijlion out of only distributed in the cities; and 14.9 million in 1984. According to the State Government. whiJe the largest num- (b) if so, what steps are being taken ber of lockouts have been due to alleged to provide this facility in the rural areas labour indiscipline, violence and go-slow, also? closures have generally been attributed to indiscipline, financial stringency, shortage THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND of raw material, trade depression etc. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) No, Sir. (d) According to information so far received in the Labour Bureau, the .share (b) The Central Government allocates of public sector in the total number of imported edible oils to the State Govern- mandays lost in the State accounted for ments. Its furtner distribution to different 2.19% in 1982, 4.24% in 1983, 18.32% in areas within the State are Jeft to the dis ... 1984. cretion of the State Government. The State Governments have been advised to (e) Both the Central and State Indus- ensure proper and equitable distribution of rial Relations Machineries continue to imported edible oils to consumers through make efforts to reduce work-stoppaaes aU fair price shops. Guidelines have tbrouah preventive mediation, concilia- also been issued to the State Governments tion, adjudication and arbitration and to strengthen this scheme in rural, remote maintain indu.trial harmoD,.. and inaccessible areal. 15$ Wrillen AlflWers APklL 15,'l~8$ W,lttnt An,,",s PI'OpOIaIl (or pro'fJdlnl drlnkiq water (b) if so, action take,\ by Central facility to problelD villaps in Government so far in this regard , Madhya Pradesh 3~9. SHRI PRATAP BHANU THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI SHARMA: Will the Minister of WORKS T. ANJIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. A ND HOUSING be pleased to state : (b) Opening of Sub-Regional Offices (u) whether Government of Madhya in the Employees' Provident Fund Orga.. Prad<..sh have submitted some new propo- nisation is to be considered first by the sals for pro\ iding drinking water facilities P..egional Committee, Employees' Provi- to problem villages of the State during dent Fund, of the concerned Region. 1984-85 ; Their recommendations are then placed before the Central Board of Trustees, Em~ (b) if so, the details thereof; ployees' Provident Fund, for their approval. A fter the approval of the Central Board (c) whether aU schemes have been of Trustees. the matter is considered by cleared by Central Government; and the Ministry of Labour for sanction. The Central Board of Trustees, Employees (d) how much financial assistance has Provident Fund, is going to consider a been provided to the State during 1984-85 ? blue· print for opening of new Sub-Regio- nal Offices in the entire country, taking THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND into account the economic viability of the HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : proposed offices. In view of this, consi- (a) and (b). The Government of Madhya deration of opening of a Sub-Regional Pradesh submitted to this Ministry rural Office at Warang,ll has been deferred till water supply schemes for 5589 villages at the receipt of a consolidated perspective an estimated cost of Rs. 2876.36 Jakhs. The plan for opening of new Sub-Regional schemes included besides problem villages, Offices from the Central Board of Trus- proposals for fuJI coverage of villages tees, Employees' Provident Fund. partially covered in earlier years and diffi- cult villages. [Translation] Supply of inferior quality foocigrains to States (c) Schemes for 3955 villages at an estimated cost of Rs. 1803.47 lakhs fulfil- 3091. SHRI HARJSH RAWAT: Will ing the prescribed guidelines were given the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL technical clearance. SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (a) whether foodgrains of inf~rior (d) During 1984-85 an amount of Rs. quality are being supplied to many States 2019.S6 lckhs was released to the State of from the Food Corporation of India Madhya Pradesh as grant-in-aid under godowns ; Accelerated Rural Water Supply Program- me and Incentive Scheme. (b) if so, the amount of Joss suffered by Food Corporation of J ndia and the Opening of Sub-Regional Provident Fund States every year due to this reason; and Commissioner's Office at Waranga) (Andhra Pradesh) (c) the steps being taken by Govern- 3090. SHRJ C. JANGA REDDY ment to remedy the situation? WiJI the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (a) whether in its report dated 26 SINGH): (a) to (c). Only foodgrains March, ) 983 Andhra Pradesh Regional conforming to the specifications laid doWn Committee has recommended to Central by the Government of India and the limits Government to open a Sub-Regional Pro- prescribed under Prevention of Food vident Fund Commissioner's Office at Adulteration Act are supplied to State Waransa] in Andhra Pradesh; and Governments and their aaencies. 1~1 Wrltte" A.lUwers The cr~eipi~t. of the stocks are given steps Government propose to take to facilities to inspect the stock before takinl reduce this imbalance '1 delivery. Further, they are also provi- ded with representative sealed samples of THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND the btocks'issued fer refuence purposes. CIVIL SUPPLIES: (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) Statements showing pro- [Elfgli shl duction of food grains and offtake from Foodgralns PrcducU() n sDd Distribution the Central Pool to the various States/ Union Territories for the years 1982. 1983 1092. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : and ]984 are ath ched as annexures I and Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL II respectively. SU PPLJES be pleased to state: ) (b) and (c). The pubJic distribution (a) the foodgrains production and dis- system. as it stands at present, is only tribution during the last three years, suppJementaJ to the avaiJabj]jty of food- State-wise; grains in the open market. The allot- ments of foodgrains to various Statesl (b) whether there is imbaJance in Union Territories ure made on a month to foodgrains production and distribution in month basi~ taking into account the over- each State; and all availability of stocks in the Central Pool, relative needs of the various States, (c) if so, the reasons therefor and market availability and other related factors. ANNEXURE I Estimates of Slale-wi,H' Production of!oodgrains for the years /98/-82 to 1983-84. States/Union Territory Productioll in '000 tonnes 1981-82 1982-83 1983·84 Andhra Pradesh 11413.1 11172.3 11520.0 Assam 2419.1 2773.3 2726.6 Bihar 8239.0 73J6.2 9625.8 Gujarat 5088.6 4396.2 5743.6 Haryana 6040.2 6649.7 6903.5 Himachal Pradesh 1054.0 972.6 1015.9 Jammu & KashmIr 1272.6 1260.7 1137.4 Karnataka 7308.3 6021.4 7377.0 KeraJa 1364.1 J329.9 1267.4 Madhya Pradesh 12834.2 12615.2 15277.2 Maharashtra 10571.4 9215.6 10947.6 Manipur 263.9 230.1 267.1 MeghaJaya 154.7 153.6 163.2 Nagaland 113.3 122.6 144.5 Orissa ,5437.2 4562.9 6844.8 Punjab 13325.8 14145.5 14778.7 Rajasthan 7163.1 8323.4 10057.4 Sikkim 63.7 63.4 7S.8 Tamil Nadu 7400.4 4832.8 6217.5 Tripura 360.0 428.1 408.2 Uttar Pradesh 24288.9 26483.4 29303.3 West Bengal 6549.7 5852.2 9157.1 A & N Islands 21.9 21.3 22.3 Arunachal Pradesh 139.9 147.1 155.7 D &. N Haveli 26.0 25.2 26.5 Delhi 128.2 150.9 136.0 Ooa, Daman &. Diu 129.3 127.2 132.3 Mizoram 34.6 51.8 41.9 Pondicherry 89.6 74.1 67.6 AU India 133294.8 129518.7 151542.9 ANNEXURE D Statewise distribution of foodgrains from Central Pool/or 'lte years 1982. 1983 and 1984 (Provisional) (In '000 tonnes) State/Union Territory 1982 1983 1984 (Prov.) A ndhra Pradesh 625.8 1286.9 1201.5 Assam 467.5 547.2 554.7 Bihar 720.7 913.4 550.9 Gujarat 418.2 290.2 230.2 Haryana 116.5 147.8 116.2 Himachal Pradesh 82.S 79.7 63.0 J & K 257.5 306.0 304.9 Karnataka 460.0 332.8 637.1 KeraJa 1282.4 1547.7 1533.1 Madhya Pradesh 471.6 456.3 235.0 Maharashtra 1367.6 1302.5 1016.5 Manipur 39.6 44.8 42.2 MeghaJaya 93.1 97.S 100.9 Nagaland 58.6 68.7 73.9 Orissa 255.2 457.1 244.9 Punjab 225.6 126.0 52.5 Rajasthan 213.5 108.3 50.7 Tamil Nadu 591.4 832.2 960.4 Tripura 110t S 107.0 103.3 Uttar Pradesh 952.7 976.2 544.6 West Bengal 2762.6 2936.5 2145.3 A & N Islands 20.0 11.0 8.9 Arunachal Pradesh 34.1 35.2 39.7 Chandigarh 22.5 19.2 20.0 Delhi 879.0 841.8 756.7 D & N Haveli 0.2 0.2 0.9 Goa, Daman & DIU 71.7 67.6 66.4 Lakshadwecp 3.9 4.5 4.0 Mizoram 59.6 60.2 65.6 Pondicherry (lnci. Mahe) 6.9 12.2 6.4 Sikkim 35.6 41.8 39.7 TOTAL 12707.2 14258.8 11770.1 Prov.-ProvisioDal. IUbJoct to reviaiQU. .'J CHAlJ:RA 25.1J17 ,(SAKA) Suppl, offertDIzerI, INd. aDd lapatl Orlllldol water _pply in Rural Area. to farmer. at .... prices 3094. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- I 3093. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : SHAR: Will the Mimst.er of WORItS Will the ltfinister of AGRICULTURE AND HOUSING be pleased to state: AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea- (a) whether the provision of drinking sed to state : water supply in rural areas has been ac- corded a very high priority by Union (a) whether fertilizers, seeds and other Government in the past three years 1982-85; inputs are supplied to the farmers at a high cost; (b) if so, the total number of problem villages, State-wise as at the beginning of (b) if so, the details thereof; and the Seventh Five Year Plan and the num- (c) steps Government have so far ber covered who))y or partially by 31 taken to supply these items at cheaper March, 1985 in each State/Union Tetri- tory; rates to the farmers so as to enable them to get remunerative prices of agricultural (c) the date by which it is proposed produce 1 to cover all the problem villages in each State/Union Territory ; and THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (d) whether any liberal allocation of AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI funds would be made in the Seventh Five BUT A SINGH): (a) and (b). Major Year Plan for this programme? agricultural inputs are fertilizers, seeds and pesticides. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (i) Prices of fertilizers are statutorily (a) Y cs, Sir. As again~t the initial pro- controlled and any sale on prices vision of Rs. 600 crores made under the exceeding them is an offence. Accelerated Rural Water Supply Pro- gramme in the Sixth Five Year Plan far (ii) As far as Seeds arc concerned, giving grants to the States, grants amoun- one of the major suppliers are ting to Rs. 919.71 crores were released Public Sector Corporations and to the States/Union Territories under the they fix their prices in consulta- Accelerated Rural Water Supply Pro- tion with the Government. It gramme and Incentive Scheme during also has effect on seeds marketed 1980- 81-1984-85. by private growers. (b) A statement giving State-wise (iii) There is no statutory control on figures of the number of problem villages pesticide prices but the maximum as on 1.4.80 and the number of villaaes prices to be charged are indicated provided with at least one source of safe by the manufacturers on the con- drinking water till January, 1985 is attach- tainers. Thus, dealer cannot over- ed. About 37,000 problem villages were charge the farmers. expected to spill over to the Seventh Fi~e Year Plan period. The precise coveraae (iv) There is no statutory control on till 31st March, 1985 will be available prices of agricultural implements only after some time. and machinery. However, the (c) The remaining problem villages Government keeps a watch on price are likely to be covered on priority basis increase made from time to time. during the Seventh Five Year Plan period. (c) The prices of major agricu1tural (d) A provision of about Rs. 298 inputs like fertilizers, seeds, etc. have crores has been made under the Accelera- risen along with rise in general price level ted Rural Water Supply Programme in in the country. the Budget for 1985-86. Allocation to States/Union Territories out of this wjJl However, fertilizers are heavily subsi- be made only after the Budget is passed dised. Subsidies are being extended to by the Parliament. The allocation for pesticides and seeds also in a selective rural drinking water supply for th~ Seventh ma.lner keepins in view national priorities. Five Year Plan has not yet been finalised. .'3 Writtell An~e" APrttL 15, 1985 W'rltklf A.lflWer, 164 Statement SI. State/U.T. No. 'of problem No. of problem No. villages on villaaes covered 1-4·1980 during 1980 to 1985 (upto January) 1. Andhra Pradesh 8,206 7,713 @ 2. Assam 15,743 8,058 3. Bihar 15.194 12,930 @ 4. Gujarat 5,318 4,005 @ S. Haryana 3,440 1,896 6. Himachal Pradesh 7,815 4,742 7. Jammu & Kashmir 4,698 1,763 @ 8. Karnataka 15,456 15,443 @ 9. Kerala ],158 1,083 @ 10. Madhya Pradesh 24,944 23,117 @ 11. Maharashtra ]2,935 ] 1,565 @ 12. Manipur 1,212 743 @ 13. Meghalaya 2,927 652@ 14. Orissa 23,616 21,830 @ 15. Nagaland 649 394 16. Punjab 1,767 478 17. Rajasthan 19,803 15,501 @ 18. Sikkim 296 212 @ 19. Tamil Nadu 6,649 6,547 @ 20. Tripura 2,800 2,387 @ 21. Uttar Pradesh 28,505 24,355 @ 22. West Bengal 25,243 11,758 @ (.) 23. A & N Islands 173 153 24. Arunachal Pradesh 1,740 1.267 25. Chandigarh 26. DeJhi 99 £ 8~ 27" Dadra & Nagar Ha veJj 28. Goa, Daman 81. Diu 66 58 29. Lakshadweep 30. Mizoram 214 102 31. Pondicherry 118 104 TOTAL 2,30,784 1,78,945 Note: 1. (.) A(hh.vcment upto Dcc., 1984 during 84-85. 2. @) Includes partially covered problem villdgcs also. 3. £ (Delhi) 3 problem villages transferred to DDA and 7 problem villa .. ges deserted. 4. In case of WEST BENGAL achievement shown does not include coverage of problem viJIages under Zila Panshal's Programmo under MNP for the years 1980-81 and 1981-82. 165 Written ""lWer. CHAITR.A 25, 1901 (SAKA) Written An.rwers 166 Replarlaation of Unauthorised Allaeadon of '.ds to West PenIal r,r Rlu'al ColoDies .in Delbl DeveJopment Programmes 3096. PROF. M.R. HALDER: Wil1 the 3095. SHRT CHITTA MAHATA : Will Minister of AGR.ICULrURE & RURAL the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: be pleased to state : (a) the amount anotted for rural (a) the names of the unauthorised development schemes in West Bengal tor residential colonies in Delhi and New the years 1980-85 ; Delhi; and (b) whether allotted money was pro- perly utilised by Government of West (b) the steps Government propose to Bengal; take to regularise them during the current (c) if not, what amount Was refunded;and year? (d) the reasons therefor. ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- HOUS1NO ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (SHRI MENT (SHRT CHANDULAL CHANDRA- (a) (b). The Delhi Administration had and KAR) : (a) t'J (d). The Jntegrated Rural compiled a list of 607 unauthorised colo- Development Programme, NJtional Rural nies, where unauthorised residential and Employment Programme, Rural Landless commercial structures had come up upto Employment Guarantee Programme and 30-6-77 and 16-2-77. Drought Prone Areas Programme are the major rural devciopment schemes under 537 of these colonies have been regu- implementation in West Bengal. A state- Iarised and S6 colonies have not been ment showing the fundI) allotted. Central approved by the Technical Committee for releases made and total funds utilised regularisation. The case!-. of balance 14 under these schemes In Wco;t Bengal colonies are expected to be finalt!'ed In during 1980-85 is annexed. According to the current year. the procedure laid down for release of funds, the unutJliscd funds at the end of The dctails arc given in statement I & the year are a110wed to be carried over to II Jaid on the Table of the House. [PJaced the next year for utjJj~ation and are not in Library. Sec No. LT-926/85] required to be refunded. Statement Funds allotted. central releases made and total fundfj utilised under the lRDP, NREP, RLEGP and DPAP duri"g the Sixth Plan ill West Bengal. (Rs. ill lakhs) S1. Name of the Programme Funds Central Total u li1isation No. a Botted release (including States's (Central ~hare) Share) 1. Integrated Rural Develop- ment Programme (IRDP) 5862.50 2472.62 4232.06 (upto January, 1985) 2. National Rural Employment Programme (NREP) 8621.60 7045.50 10407.28 (upto Dec., 1984) 3. Rural Landless Employ- ment Guarantee Pro- gramme (RLEGP) 4620.00 2308.30 414.48 (upto J..tnuary, 1985) Provisional 4. Drought Prone Areas Programme (DPAP) 1200.00 896.45 1720.86 (upto January, 1985) NOTE: Financial allocation for IRDP, NREP and DPAP are 1. shared on 50 : 50 basis between the Centre and the States. Accordingly, the State Government is to allocate an equal amount shown in col. (3) as its matching share. During 1980-81 the entire funds for NREP were, however, provided by the Centre. J 2. The .R.LEOP was started With effect from 15th August, 1983 and entire funds for this prosramme are provided by the Centre. AP'AD..15, 198' ~., Jlafl Uader MIG Se __ .. cropped area of 320.84 lakh hectares was A_ok VIIaar adversely affected. The State-wise details are indicated in attached statement. 3.7. SHRI CHITTA NAHATA: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING (c) The follOWing ceilings of Centra) be pleased to refer to the reply given to assistance have been sanctioned durin, UDltarred Question No. 3670 on 19 March, 1984-85 for drought relief to the drought 1984 regarding allotment of flats under affected States: MIG Scheme in Ashok Vihar and state: State Rs. in crores (a) whether MIG flats in Ashok Vihar have been completed and allotted to the 1. Andbra Pradesh S4.42 applkants by DDA ; and 2. Himachal Pradesh 19.37 (including (b) if not, the reasons for undue delay 6.67 for in allotment of fiats and by what date 1985-86) these will be allotted to the applicants cODccrned? 3. Karnataka 32.73 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 4. Madhya Pradesh 15.14 (including HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : 3.76 for (a) 144 MIG fiats under construction in 1985-86) Ashok Vihar and allocated in February, 1982 are likely to be completed by 5. Maharashtra 30.63 September, 1985. 6. Orissa 8.95 (including (b) The delay in completion of these 6.00 for flats is mainly due to rectification of 1985-86) defects and non availability of stipulated materials such as door shutters, G. L 7. Rajasthan 31.32 (including Pipes, etc. These flats are expected to 25.89 for be ready by September 1985 after which 1985-86) allotments will commence. 8. Uttar Pradesh 8.10 Droaglat in Maharashtra StatemeDt 3098. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- S. No. State Cropped area TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT affected be pleased to state : (Lakh ha.) (a) whether Government are aware that drought situation prevaiJs in large areas of Maharasbtra and other parts of (I) (2) (3) the country ; (b) jf so, the extent of loss of agricul. 1. Andhra Pradesh 49.05 tura) crops, State-wise; and 2. Himachal Pradesh 1.98 3. Karnataka 38.74 (c) the Central assistance given to 4. Madhya Pradesh 52.45 each State 1 5. Maharashtra 83.93 6. Orissa 13.83 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE 7. Rajasthan 40.32 AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI 8. Uttar Pradesh 40.54 BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. ------TOTAL 320.84 (b) According to the information furnished by the drouaht affc~ted States, CHAITRA 21. lto7 (SAKA) VtJI_tioa of FaaclslJedel' NREP THE MINISTER OF STATE IN T.HE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP- 3099. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRA- PATIL : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- KAR) : (a) to (c). Under National Rora) TURE &t RURAL DEVEIJOPMENT be Employment Programme such works whiob pleased to state: resu1t in creation of durabJe community assets and strengthen the rural infrastruc- ture can be taken up for execution. The (a) whc ther it has come to Govern- works that may be taken up include both ment's notice that under the NREP Pro- productive works and those which [( c gramme funds are being utilised for meant for catering to the felt needs of the construction of buildings which are not village community. This policy is proposed of productive nature; to be continued. The works permitted to be taken up under the programme include (b) whether Government have an social forestry, soil and water conser- account of the buildings constructed vation works incJudi.1g minor irrigation, during 1983 and 1984 under this scheme flood protection, drainage and anti-water in Maharashtra and h ow many of them are logging works, construction of water bearing such which are being used for productive structures, rural roads, and cons~ruction purposes and the benefits derived there- of buildings like primary schoo), commu- from; and nity centres, health centres, rural godowns and Panchayat Ghars etc. etc. The works (c) whether Government would review taken up in Maharashtra under NREP the whole situation and make sure that during 1983-84 and 1984-85 are indicated the scarce fund is utilised only for in the enclosed statement which shows construction of such buildings as are to that the State Government is taking up be public use leading to productive activity works of productive nature as wetl as and if so, Government's reaction works that cater to the felt needs of the thereto 1 village community. Statement Physical assets created in Maharashtra under NREP during the years 1983-84 and /984-85 Item Unit 1983-84 1984-81 (upto Sept., 1984) 1. Social Forestry A. Area Hect. 3957 1860 B. Tree planted Lakh Nos. 68.12 31.31 2. Works benefiting SCs/STs. A. Development of House sites Nos. 10 7 3. Construction of Village Tanks Nos. 41 48 4. Minor irri gation works including those relatina to Bood protection works Hects. s. Soil conservation and land reclamation Hects. 8 6. Provision of drinking water wells and water sources and cattle ponds etc. (a) Drinkina water wells/mini-wells Nos. 236 ISO (b) Cattle ponds Nos. 30 , 1'1 Written Answers APlIL~ 15, J985' Written AMWerl 1'2 7. Ritral roads (Kms.) 1854 1705 8. School buildings constructed Nos. 574 613 9. Bathing and washing platforms Nos. 90 46 10. BaJwadi Buildings constructed Nos. 306 538 11. Panchayat Ghars ( Community cen.tres constructed) Nos. 1188 999 12. Pinjrapols constructed Nos. 2 13. Cremation centres constructed Nos. 20 10 14. Lavatory/Latrines constructed Nos. 170 137 15. Group houses constructed Nos. 4 132 16. Water tanks constructed Nos. 22 43 17. Dispensaries building ~onstructed Nos. 21 Sale of fake foreign goods (a) whether Government propose to 3100. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: introduce colour technology in Madras Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Doordarshan ; SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (b) if so, the time by which it is likely (a) whether Government are aware of to be introduced ; and the fact that innocent public in the country is being defrauded by large scale opera- (c) if not, the reasons therefor? tions of fdke and counterfeit goods with forei¥n brand names surreptitiously mar- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ked on them ; and MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (5HRI V.N. GADGIL): (b) the proposah of Government to (a) and (b). One of the studioS at Door- ~cale stop these large fraudl\ ? darshan Kendra, Madras i~ expected to be equipped for production of programmes in THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND colour during 1986-87. Some equipment CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA for Jimited product ion of field-based pro- SINGH) : (a) 1 here have been ~omc grammes in colour has already been provi- reports in the Press regardmg sale of ded to the Kendra. unauthorised duplicated goods. (c) Does not arise. (b) The Trade & Merchandise Marks Act, 1958 contains adequate penal provi- sions for applying false trade marks and Commissioning of Koraput T. V. Centre for selling goods bearing false trade marks. The amended Copyright Act, 1957 and the 3102. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices the Minister of INFORMATION AND Act, 1969 al~o contain proviSions to deaJ BROADCASTING be pleased to state: with these practices. (a) whether Government are aWare that Grant~in-aid i~ prOVided to voluntary Kornput T. V. Centre which was commi- consumer organisations for generating ssioned on 28 February, 1985 does not consumer aWufcness by organising consu- cover Jcypore town which is within 20 km. mer education programmes. range; Introduction of Colour Technology in (b) if so, the reasons for the noo- Madras Doordarsban coverage ; and 3101. SHRI R. ANNANAMBI : Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (c) the steps beiug taken to rectify the BROADCASTING be pleased to state~: same? Wrlttell Answ~rs CHAITRA 2$, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer.r 114 THE MINl~TER OF STATE OF THE TeleQst of NatioaaJ Programme MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): 3104. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: (a) Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of INFORMATION & BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (b) Jeypore falls in the shadow area formed by lhe intervening hills and there- (a) whether the television viewers in fore does not get coverage from the low various States have resented the encroach- pow'r trdnsmitter at Koraput. ment of the National Programme of Door- darshan on the programmes telecast from various regional Doordarshan centres that (c) Provision of TV service to un- provide variety and expression to regional covered parts of the country, including talents; and those in Orissa, would depend on the actual availability of resources for TV (b) if so, whether Government propose expansion during the future Plan periods. rescheduling of the National Programme telecast from various regional centres? Stagnation in W ooJ Production 3103. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE NAIK: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- MINISTRY OF INFORMATION & TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): be pleased to state : (a) and (b). As in the past, the National Programme of Doordarshan continues to be telecast from 9.00 p.m. With effect (a) whether there has been continuous from March, 10, 1985, sponsored serial stagnation in wool production In the programmes aimed to promote family country; planning, Women's we1fare, positive social values, etc. as well as some new serial (b) if so, since when; programmes providing wholesome enter- tainment are being telecast on the national (c) the main reasons of the stagnation; network between 8.30-9.00 p.m. While majority of vieWers have welcomed the (d) the measures taken by Government new programmes telecast during 8.30 p.m ... for the development of sheep and wool ; 9.00 p.m., representations against these and programmes have been received from some viewers 10 one State. Doordarshan (e) the details thereof ? Kendras have already been asked to commence their transmission half an hour THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE earlier to enable telecast of regional AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI programmes for the same duration as BUTA SINGH): (a) No, Sir. before. {b) and (c). Do not arise. Minimum Wages of Worken (d) and (e). Some of the Programmes 3105. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: being implemented/taken up for develop- Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased ment of sheep and wool are-Improvement to state: of Jow producing sheep using exotic, (a) whether Government have revised superior indigenous and cross-bred rams; the minimum wages for 34 scheduled em.. Selective breeding of superior indigenous ployments ; breeds; Strengthening of Sheep Brcedina Farms for production of improved rams ; (b) if so, what are the minimum Pasture development; Strenlthening the wages of skilled workers, semi.skilled health cover facilities; and Establishment! workers and agricultural workers ; strengthening of Federa tion/Board/Corpora- . tion concerned with sheep &. wool develop- (c) the wages fixed for the workers ment in States. in mining sectors ; and i1S Wrllte" Answers Ai-ItIt 1~t 1985 (d) the date rrom which such increased 34 scheduled employments are indicated in rates have come into effect? the attached statement. THE MINISTER OF LABOUR (SHRI (d) The revised minimum rates of wages T. ANJlAR): (a) Yes, Sir. are effective from the 12th February" (b) and (c). Minimum rates of wages 1985. fixed for different cate80ries of workers in Statement Minimum rates wages as revised on 12.2.85 in various scheduled employments. 51. Name of the Date of Rates of wages per day No. Employment revision Unski1led Semi Skilled Highly (lowest paid skilled Clerical skilled workers) Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. 1. Employment in 12.2.85 8.50 10.75 13.50 17.2.5 Accor- All'iculture. to to to to ding to 12.75 IS.75 20.00 25.00 areas. 2. Employment in 12.2.85 -do- -do- -do- -do- the construction or maintenance of roads or in building opera- tions. 3. Employment in -do- -do- -do- ·do- -do- stone breaking or stone crushing. 4. Employment in -do- -do- -do- -do- -do- the maintenance of buildings. S. Employment in -do- -do- -do- ..do- -do- construction and maintenance of runways. Skilltd Clerical 6. Employment in 12.2.85 11.00 13.75 17.00 17.00 Gypsum mines. (for work above ground) 13.25 ]6.50 20.25 (for work bclC-'w ground) 7. Employment in 12.2.85 -do- -do- -do- -do- Bafytes Mines. It EMployment in -do- Bauxite mine&. ." WrltUIf iftr$Wr, CHAIT&A 2!, It(n (SAg,A) Wrltt_PI AIlI~erS .'a 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9. Employment in 12.2.85 11.00 13.7S 17.00 17.00 Manganese mines. (for work above ground) 13.25 16.50 20.25 (for work beJow ground) 10. Employment in -do- -do- .do- -do- -do- China Clay mines. 11. Employment in -do- -do- -do- -do- -do- Kyanite mines. 12 Employment in .. do- -do- -do- -do- -do- Copper mines. 13. Employment in -do- -do- -do- -do- -do- CJay mines. ]4. Employment in -do- -do- -do- -do- -do.. Stone mines. J5. Employment in -do- -do- -do- -do- -do- White Clay mines. 16. Employment in -do- -do- -do- -do- -do· Fire Clay mines. 17. Employment in -do- ·do- -do- -do- -do- Ochre miRe'S. 18. Employment in -do- -do- -do- -do- -do- Stetite (including soapstone and talc) mines. 19. Employment in -do- o do- -do· '-do- -do.. Asbestos mines. 20. Employment in .. do- .. do- -do- -do- -do- Chromite mines. 21. Employment in .do- -do- ,.do- -do· -do- Quartite mines. 22. Employment in -do- ·do- -do- -do- -do- Quartz mines. 23. Employment in -do- -do· -do- -do- -do- Silica mines. 24. Employment in ·do· -do· ·do- -do· -do- Mica mines. 25. Employment in -do- ·do- -do- -do- -do- Maanesite mines. ~. Employment in .do. ·do- -do· -do- -do- Graphite miaea. 21. EQiPloymont In -do- -do- -do- .do- ..do- Pelspar mines. i19 Wrlll." -A ",wers APfllt J$, J985 [Wrllle" .A1I8W~rl 1.0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 28. Employment in 12.2.85 11.00 13.75 17.00 17.00 Redoxide mines. (for work above ground) 13.25 16.50 20.25 (for work below ground) 29. Employment in -do- ·do -do- -do- -do- laterite mines. 30. Employment In -do- ·do- -do- -do· -do- Dolomite mines. 31. Employment in -do- ·do- -do- -do- ~do- Iron Ore mines. 32. Employment in -do- ·do- -do- -do- -do- Granite mines. 33. Wolfrdm mmes. -do- -do- -do- -do- -do- 34. Magnetite mines. -do- -do- -do- -do- -do- Increase In Audio Piracy In Metropolitan Scheme to Increase Edible 011 Production Cities 3107. SHRI C. P. THAKUR: WiJl the 3106. SHRIMATI JAYANT( PATNAIK: MInister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES Will the Mmistl r of INFORMA lION be pleased to stat~ : AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state : (a) the total amount of foreign excha- nge Indid spends on importing edible oils; (a) whether there had been an Increase in the audio piracy in some Metropolitan (b) whether in view of bumper crop of cities; cotton this year, India will save some foreign exchange; (b) whether anti-piracy raids have been launched 111 those cities; (c) whether there is any scheme to increase edible oil production in the (c) if so, the number of illegal piracy country; and cases registered after the COPYright Am- endment Act has been enforced; and (d) whether there is any proposal to allow the use of solvent extracted mustard (d) the details thereof? and groundnut oil for vanaspati industry? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): SINGH) : (a) & (b). During the financial (a) No instance of any piracy of Radio year 1983 84, 14.09 lakh MTs. of edible broadcasts has come to the notice of oils were orted by the State Trading Cor- the Government. poration at a total value of Rs. 846 crores. The import of edible oj) during this year (b), (c) and (d). Does Dot arise. will depend upon the actual availability i8i Written Answers CHAITtA 25. t90; (SAKA) WrItten Answers 182 of indigenous oils, the likely demand for nor broadcast on the A.I.R. whereas the lilt edible oHs the availability of foreign Pakistan Radio broadcast the same; and exchanle and other related factors. (h) if so, the reasons for not telecasting (c) TO attain the self-sufficiency in vege- and broadcasting in India? table oils, the following measures have been taken: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (I) Intensive programme for develop- BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) ment of oilseeds in oilsecd producing (a) and (b). Yes Sir As a matter of policy States. The scheme aims at demo- A IR and Doord.trshan do not generally nstration on farmers' fields, streng- pr<'vidc live coverage of benefit matches. thening of seed production and The cricket match in Sharjah was organi- distribution arrangement, expansion sed for the benefit of well known current of plant protection measures, exten- and retired test cricketers in which only sion of irrigated areas etc. four countrie~ Vila India, Pakistan, Aus- tralia and EngJand had participated. How- (2) J-aunching of special projects on ever, the latcst scores were conveyed in production of groundnut in Saura- the news bulletins of AIR. shtra region of Gujarat and soya- bean in Madhya Pradesh. Further, highlights of the two matches in whieh India participated viz. India Vs. (3) Better incentive to producers Pakistan (Semi-Final) and India Vs. Aus- throtlgh fixation of minimum supp- tralia (Final) were telecast on 28.3.1985 ort prices. and 31.3.1985 respectively on the national network. (4) Intensification of research efforts [ Trans/alion] for incrc (5) Increase in area undu non-traditi- 3109. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will onal 0 ilsecd crops like soyabean and the Mi(l(stcr of AGRICULTURE AND sunflower and exploitati(,11 of oi1- RURAL DEVLLOPMENT be pleased to seeds of tree and furest origin, state: rice bran etc. (a) whcter at tcntion of Government (6) Setting up of necessary processing has been drawJl to the report appeared in and infrastnl{'tural facilities to keep the 'Statesman' of 16 January, 1985 to the pace with the production progra- effect that according to Worldwatch insti- mme of oilsecds. tute maximum soil erosion at the rate of 47,000 crore tons per year takes place in (d) The use of solvent extracted mus- India and due to which 5 lakhs ponds and tard oil and groundnut oil in manufacture 485 tanks arc likely to be filled with soil of Vanaspati is engaging attention of the shortly; Government. (b) jf so, the loss likely to be caused Cricket Match At Sharjah to irrigation and production of eJectricity therefrom ; and 3108. SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: Will the Minister of INFORMATION (c) the State-wise target of converting AND BROADCASTING be pleased to barren land into fertile Jand for the year state: 1985-86 ? (a) whether final cricket match played THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE between India and Australia on 29th AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI March., 1985 at SharJah was not telecast BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). The World- ~'11I811 AMw." watch Institute'S Paper 60 of September Tbe National Wastelands Developme,t 1984 reported in the ·Statesman· of 16th Board is yet to be set up for undertakina January, 1985 has estimated that the cou- large scale afforestation prolrammc for ntry has been losing about 4700 million raising fuelwood and fodder plantati on. tons of soil through erosion. It bas furt- The preparatory action is in prosress. hcr reported that premature siltation of 5 la.k.h ponds and 487 medium and major For development of intensive fish farm- Tesc rvoirs providing irrigation and genera- ing in vil1age tanks and ponds, the Fish ting hydro electricity is a serious matter. Farmers Development Agencies have been Th(..ugh there are no periodic surveys for set up in the country in all the States ex- the country as a whole, the problem of cept Sikkim and Mcghalaya. So far, about erosion, siltation of tanks, ponds and one lakh ha. of derelict silt )adden water reservoirs has been recognised by the area has been brought under scientific fish Government in the context of loss of irri- farming after reclamation through 147 Fish gation, production of electricity and the Farmers Development Agencies functioning productivity of agriculture and allied sec- in the country. During Seventh Five Year tors. Plan, about 400 districts in the country will be covered through this programme. Soil and water conservation programmes About another two lakh ha. of water area have been in operation since the Flrst wiIJ be brought under fish culture after Five Year Plan both under State and Cen- reclamation, thus reducing to a large ex- tral Sector for arresting erosion and land tent problem of fish pond siltation. degradation in agricultural and non-agri- cultural lands. Till 1984-1985, a total [E"glish} area of about 29.38 million ha. would be Import of Edible Oil througb S.T.C. treated and target for 1985-86 is 1.48 million ha. To moderate catchment de- 3110. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the gradation, siltation of reservoirs and loss Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES of irrigation and hydro electric potentials be pleased to state : created, a Centrally sponsored scheme of , 'Soil Conservation in the Catchments of (a) whether the Union Finance Minis .. River Valley Project" has been in opera .. try have directed his Ministry to ensure ti on since the Third Plan. This scheme that imports of edible oils during the is now extended to 28 catchments spread- current year (November 1984 to October ing over 17 States, one Union Territory 1985) arc kept to the required minimum and Damodar Valley Corporation, during in view of the foreign exchange constrai- the Sixth Plan. Till 19R4-85, an area of nts ; 1.93 million ha. has been treated and the target for 1985-86 is 0.12 milJion ha. (b) whether the Sta te Trading Corpora- Similarly, for increasing water retention tion whIch is the canalising agency has ability of the catchment and reducing the finalised a deal of import of about 10 loss of productIon in the fertile plains thr- )akh tonnes of edible oil ; ough doods, a centrally-sponsored scheme of ·'lntegrated Watershed Management in (c) whether in view of the higher in- the Catchment of flood-prone rivers" Was crease or production of oil seeds in the launched during the Sixth Plan in 8 catch- country, there will not be much need to ments spread over 7 States and one Union import the edible oil during 1985 ; Territory. TiJJ 1984-85, an area of 0.16 (d) if so, the extent to which the pro- million ha. would be treated and the tar- duction of edible oil has been increased; aet for 1985-86 is 0.05 million ha. Under and the State Sector, a number of program- mes have been in operation for controlling (e) the extent to which the imports of erosion and also restoring degraded land edible oil has been fixed? to productive management scheme. Till 1984-85, an area of 27.07 million ha. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND would be treated and the taraet for 1985.86 CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIR.BNDRA i, 0." mil1ion ha. SINGH) : (a> Tho quaatum of .diW. CJi& 11$ CHAITRA 25. 1907 (SAKA) Corf'eetl"6 St"'ement 186 10 USQ No. 2166 to be imported is decided by the Govern- (b) if so, whether the exact location ment from time to time taking into COD- for construction of the harbour has been sideration the several factors like the finalised ; and availability of indigenous oils, likely de- mand of the edible oils and availability of (c) if so, its estimated cost and the the foreign exchanle and other r~lated time schedule for starting the construction factors. and completion of the project ? (b) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (c) to (e). The Government has taken BUT A SIN (In tonnes) Figures furnished in Reconciled figures reply to Lok Sa bha furnished by I.D.C. Unstarred Question No. 2366 dt. 8.3.82. S.M.P. S.M.P. 1. Metro city dairies and other 33481 32878 schemes. 2. Baby Food ManufactuTl rs. 1280 1104 The inadvertent error, however, is regretted. • 12.00 hrs. PROF. K. K. TEWARY (Buxar): A Lanka. I have given an adjournment very serious development is taking place motion. in Sri Lanka. Mr. JaYdwclrdene, PresI- dent of Sri Lanka, has demanded induction MR. SPEAKER: The meeting of the of British forces. You also know that Business Advisory Committee is there to- the British mercenaries are already there. morrow. We WIll decIde about it then. Mosad, the hated I'lfJe1i SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : You will MR. SPEAKER: We had a fuJI diC)clI- be ~urpri~ed to know that D.C M. in ssion. There is one more chante. When- Delhi is on the verge of closure because ever we thmk fit, we shall discuss it. of the decision of the Works & Housing Ministry. PROF. K.K. TEWARY: He is trying to internationalisc it. MR. SPEAKER : Do 'not worry about it. J have looked in to it. There is no MR. SPf AKER : We are holding the problem as yet. And if it arises, we wiJI meeting of the Business Advisory Commi- discuss it. ttee tomorrow. You can di scuss and fin- alise it. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Sir, you admit a Calling Attention on this. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (M-ehboob- nagar) : In the whole session we did not MR. SPEAKER: No hypothetical ques· have discus~ion on the Sri Lanka issue as tions are discussed here. such. We only di'il'ussed it indirectly on the Demands of the External Affairs SHRI AJOY BISWAS (Tripura West) : Ministry. The people of Tripura are observing bafldh today, because the Tripura Govern- MR. SPEAKER: We are having it on ment and the people of Tripura have been the agenda. You can dis.cuss in the DAC demanding more CRP and BSF to tackle tomorrow. No problem. the extremists ..... SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Uluberia) : MR. SPEAKER: That is notbinl. You I am also raising the question of Sri can write to me. CHAITIA WIllY (BAlCA) ElectlOltl If} C"",,,,llIees 1" SHilIMATl ~ GEBTA MUKliElUEE India "'Md the 28th W.rb, 1985. Under (Panskura) : I am on the same question. sub-section (6) of IKtioa 3 of tile Essential It is a question of Centre-State relations •• Commodities Act, 1955. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-708/85] PROF.I(.. K. TBWAltY; Are you loinl to have a discussion on the Sri Lanka issue? NotJfkatieD AaaeDdIaa FOlmer Not ..- It has acquired new dimensions. tloa UlMler CaltOIlLl Act THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SPBAKER : We will have a meetinl MIt. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI of the BAC tomorrow. We will decide JANARDHANA POOJARY) : I beg to about it there. lay on the Table a copy of Notification No. SHRI AJOY BISW AS: It is tbe duty of OSR 336 (Hindi and English versions) pub- the Central Government to manage the lished in Gazette of India dated the 6th border. The extremists are crossin, the April, 1985 together with an explanatory border. Why can we not discuss this issue ? memorandum making certain amendment to Notification No. 120/82-Customs dated the MR. SPEAKER: It is not within my 24th April, 1982 so as to prohibit export powers. out of India of one more sustance vij .• Pen- tazocine specified in the notification, under SHRI AMAL DATT A (Diamond Har- section 159 of the Customs Act, 1962. bour) : The Tripura Government has been askina for more forces to deal with the [Placed in Library See No. L T-709/8S] extremists ..... MR. SPEAKER: It is not within my powers. You have already said it and it [English] has come to their notice. It is up to them. I cannot force them. I cannot force the ELECTIONS TO COMMITTEES Government. (I) Coconut Development Board SHRI AMAL DATTA: All parties have given notice ....• THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (Interruptions)·· AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : I beg to move: MR. SPEAKER : What does it matter ? Notice does not mean that it is entertained. "That in pursuance of sub-section 4 (e) (Interruptions)·· of Section 4 of the Coconut Development Board Act, 1979, the members of this MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on House do proceed to elect, in such record. manner as the Speaker may direct, two members from among themselves to serve as members of the Coconut Deve- lopment Board, subject to the other [English) provisions of the said Act." PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE MR. SPEAKER: The question is : Notification Under Essential Commodities Act "That in pursuance of sub-section 4 (e) of Section 4 of the Coconut Develop· THE MINISTER OF FOOD & CIVIL ment Board Act, 1979, the members SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : I of this House do proceed to elect, in beg to lay on the Table a copy of the Sugar such manner as the Speaker may direct, (Price Detem'lination for 1984-.&5 Produ- two members from among themselves ction) Second Amendment Order, 1985 to serve as members of the Coconut (Hindi and English versions) published in Development Board, subject to the Notification No. GSR 316 (E) in Gazette of other provisions of the said Act." The Motion was adopted. It. "~"".U.I", t.tATr~I.S UNDER RVLE 31Jl [TNI""llIIf."J SHRI BUTA SINOH : I be. to mow : (I) DMIaDd For I.... 01 Eranl •• La ...rI "Cut. r.tt.e LW of Sdae.. --That in purluarwe of sU'b-seetion (4) ..... e ••• (e) of Section 4 or the National Oilseeds SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL (Kota): and Vegetable OUs Development Board Yr. Sp4aker. Sir. I want to Blab a rOlJolOst Act, 1983, the membus of tbis House for separating Erawal and Lashkari castes do proceed to elect in such mauer as of Rajasthan from Berwa caste an4 the¥' the Speaker may direct, two membors inclusion in the Scheduled castes. from among themselves to serve as mem- bors of tbe Natioaal Oilseeds and Veae- In Rajasthan State, Erawal and Lashkari table Oils Development Board, subject to castes have not been included in the list or the other provisions of the said Act." Sc.heduled Castes directly but have been included in the above-list by Jinking them MR., SPEAKER : The question is : with Borwa Caste to 'Which they have objec- tion. These Castes have been alway. con- "That in pursuance of sub-section (4) (e) sidering themselves different from Berwa of Section 4 of the National Oilseeds Caste on the plea that in the princely states, and Vegetable Oils Development Board the people who used to form part of I Lash- Act, 1983, the members of this House kar' (,umy) were called 'Lashkari' whereas do proceed to elect. in such manner a4i the work done by the people of Bcrwa caste the Speaker may direct, two members was different. Thus thC're is much resent- from among themselves to serve as me- ment among the members of these two mbers of the National Oilseeds and Ve- Castc:s. They have been demanding for getable Oils Development Board, subject quite a long time that Erawdl and Lashkari to the other provisions of the said castes should be delmked from Berwa caste Act." and included in the list of Scheduled Castes separately, although they have been letting The Motlo" was adopted all the facilities of Scheduled Castes beiDI given to Bcrwa caste. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Amal Datta, you are a very civilized person, please don't Thus the long-time demand of Erawal do !ike this. Please si t down now. Ple- and Lashkari castes is quite gen uine. The ase take your seat. matter has been pending with Government (lnterruptiolls)·" for consideration for many years. The argllement given by the people of these two MR. SPEAKER: I know the implicati- castes is also plausible. ons. Simply because you say so, J cannot 10 into it ..... It therefore, request the hon. Home Minister that he should consider this matter (Interruptions)·· of separating Erawal and Lashkari castes MR. SPEAKER : Nothing aoes on rec- from Berwa caste sympathetically and ord. I have not allowed these people ..... include them in the List of Scheduled Castes (Interruptions) as two separate Castes so that the dissatis- faction among them is removed urgently. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Tewary, why don't you sit down please? Why are you 12.08 brs. taking time? (SHRI SOMNATH RATH In the Chair) (Interruptions) '" * [Translation) (JI) Oemsad for cUredl ... the Tl'aftIIeOre "TltaIdIMI Prodactl Lt4I. te take ewer T .K.Cllemicala l.td... KodIu,.1I (Trlvaa· MR. SPEAKER: Please have your seat. dnuD) ID view 01 its DOt.,.. __... What are you doing? You are an intelligent propet.y. man, do not worry about it. SHRI A. CHARLES (Trivandrum) : The T. K. Chemicals Ltd~. j~"""i, • • ..Not reeordcd. 193 Matlef'S IInder Rille J71 CHAtTRA 2~, too7 (SAKA) Matters under Rule 311 194 Trivandrum. a factory producing Electrolytic quickly to declare Hyderabad as an Inter- Manganese Dioxide (EMD) which is used national Airport and introduce at least limit- for manufacturing dry electrjc battery cells, ed international services from Hyderabad to has declared layoff on 9th June 1984 beca- meet the growing demands of the people. use of financial constraints. The need for development of this industry cannot be over- (iv) Need to provide adequate funds ror antl- emphasised inasmuch as the manufacturers erosion measures to check eroa.on by of dry cells in India have to depend on a the Ganga and Bbagiratbi river. in West large scale on imported E.M.D. Further, BengaJ. this factory i~ utiJising sulphuric acid waste of the Travancore Titanium Products Ltd .• SHRIMA II BIBHA GHOSH GOSWAfvH which, if not properly utilised causes pollu- (Nabadwip) : A very large population In tion for the chemical reaction tn the manu- West Bengal living on the banks of the facture of E.M.D. Hence, for ecological Ganga and the Bhagirathi up and down- reasons also this industry has to be deve- ~tream of the Farakka Barrage have either loped. been displaced or arc threatened immediate displacement due to large-scale and serious The pre:icnt crisis of this industry is only erosion by both the rivers. The erosion in because of bad management. Large amou- the district of Murshidabad will ultimately nts were taken a ~ loan from banks and oth- engulf the Railway line, National Highway, er financi~l in~titution"). But they were in State Highway and the embankment and a way misappropriated. There arc also Feeder Canal of Farakka Barrage project. other irregularities. W Jges .of the workers It will also disrupt the communication sys- were not regularly paid. Their P.F. and tem in this Indo-Bangladesh border area and E.S.I. contributions were not remitted. cu t off the northern districts from the rest Even amounts collected from the employees of West Bengal. In the district of Nadia, towards repayment of bank loans were mis- more than seventy villages and townships on appropriated by the management. the Bhagirathi are in the process of being eroded away in the Nabadwip constituency 12.10 hrs. alone. The historically important memor- ial at the site of the homestead of the fam- [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ill the Chair] ous poet Kriltivasa, author of the Bengali Ramay~na, also faces immediate destruct- In view of the very grave situation pre- ion. The resources of the State Govern- vailing in this industry due to its illegal clo- ment being unequal to the task of effective sure. I would plead that an urgent inquiry anti. crosion works of such a great dimen .. may be ordered to be conducted in the whole sion, the Central Government should imme· matter and persons responsible penalised. diatcly come forward with adequate funds Directions may also be given to the Travan- for anti crosien measures on the banks of core Titanium Products Ltd. to take over the two national waterways. the T.K. Chemicals as its subsidiary unit for the manufacture of E.M.D. as a bypro- (v) Demand for setting up industries 10 RaJ- duct. This wiJI be a great boon to the wor- garb district of Madhya Pradesb. kers also who are under starvation. KUMARI PUSHPA nEVI (Raisarh): (III) Need to declare Hyderabad an Inter- Raigarh district in Madhya Prad~sh is pre· national Airport. dominantly inhabitated by tribals. It is one of the industriall} backward districts of SHRI G. BHOOPATHY (Peddapalli) : the State. There is only one jute mill es.. [n reply to the requests made by the Govern- tablished at Raigarh in 1935. When the ment of Andhra Pradesh, the Minister of whole WO) Id including India is making Tourism and Civil Aviation is understood rapid progress in the field of industry. ~ai· to have stated that an assessment is being garh is lagging far behind in this sector. mad, about the volume of passenger and It is unfortunate that the district has been cargo traffic bet~een Hyderabad and the placed in 'B' category despite the fact that Mid.dle.East countries. I request that tho the percentage of industrial growth in Rai· survey, if not already made, should be made garh is zero durioa the last SO years. APRrt IS. 1985 Demand lor Grants (General) 1985·86 (Kumari Pumpa Devi] suitable steps are taken immediatoly to On the other hand there is enough scope save Uttar Pradesh from this disease. to set up many industries in that district. It is ideally located for the establishment of mineral and forest-based industries as the DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (GENERAL). Mineral Exploration Corporation and Geo- 1985-86-Contd. logical Survey of India have found huge depo&its of coal, bauxite and other minerals [English 1 in those areas. Other important facilities Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilisers like labour and land are available in plenty -Contd. and also at rensonable c()st. So, there is every justificaticn to set up industries in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now we that district. will t~!ke up Item No.6 and resume discus- sion on Demand for Grant of the Ministry The policy of the Government of India of Chcmic~lls and Fertilizers. Shri R. P. is to set up industries in the backward and Das has already taken most of his time. "no-industry" districts on priority basis. I would request him to conclude his speech Raigarh can be culled both 'no industry' withiu two or three minutes. and industrially backward district. SHRI R.P. DAS (Krishnagar) : I was As such, I urge that Raigarh district be speaking about the establishment of Haldia declared from categery 'B' to category 'C' Petro Chemical complex. It should be es district. It should be treated as no-indus- tabli~hed within a reasonable tim~. It is try district and a11 possi ble steps should be hoped that hundreds of downstream indus- taken by the Government of India to set up tries will come up and hundreds and thou· industries on priority basis. sands of unemployed youth go in for emp- loyment in the Haldia Chcmic.ll Complex [Trans/ation] and its downstream industries . • ~i) Need to take steps urgently to check the Increasing jncidence or small-pox in This question came up at different U.P., especially in the Eastern parts. times in this House. During the last time when this question came up in the House, SHIH RAM NAGINA MISHRA (S..llem- Shri Satya G('pal Misra put a question to pur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would the hon. Minister on 27-3·84 and the hon. like to draw the attention of the hone Ministt;r Shri ShiV Shankar replied that Health Minister to the increasing incidl nce W] his petro-chemical complex in Haldia is of small-pox in Uttar Pradesh. At present, a must whether the State takes it UP. whe- U.P., particularly Eustern U." P. is in the ther it is a joint venture or whatever it is." grip of small-pox ~hich is widespread. The "lhis was the position a year before. small children are dying daily. The newspapers have also been publishing these Even before that, when Mr. P. C. Sethi reports. In the Capital city of Lucknow was in charge of the Department, he repl- also, this disease has spread on a large ied to another question that "Haldia Pet. scaJe and is engulfing a 11 parts of the State. ro-{' hemical Complex is a must and thl! No proper 8rraJ'gements seems to have industrial licence for Haldia Petro-Chern.. been m~de to check this disease. Earlier, ical Complex would be issued shortly." thie; disease had subsided suffici ently, but now suddenly, it is spreading very fast. If But nothing has been done so far and it special remedial meJsur(s are not taken, is learnt that the proposals of the Petro- the State of Uttar Pradesh will be facing Chemical Complex have been dropped. great trouble bec. ulSe thi~ disease is affec- ting children as also young and aged I again request the hon.Minister that this people. project should be taken up in right earnest in the Seventh Five Year Plan so that the In such a situatibn, I would earnestly posaibilities for this Complex can be exp'. ,.ppeal to the hone Minister to ensure that ored It. is also true that this type of project i97 Demand/or Grants CHAITR.A 2S. 1~7 (SAKA) Demand/or Grants (General) J985 .. 86 . (General) 1985-86 assumes some sort of national importance thing like that. In place of thousands of like that of the Farakka Thermal Power formulations, the number of essentials Project and the Durgapur Steel Plant. and life-saving drugs can be brought down This project should, therefore, be taken up to a very small figure. These multi .. in the Sever.th Five Year Plan. nationals and other monopoly houses should be discouraged from having so I now come to Drugs and Pharmaceu- many formulations as they are marketing tical industry. The annuul report says: now in the cvuntry. I would ask the Government whose business it is to restri .. t "T he proulJl.;tion of the drugs and for- these endless formulation~. In th:! mulations during the year 1984-85 is absence of any nation~lI drug policy, estimated to be Rs. 377 crores .. Then, Sir, comes the que~tjon of esta- (iii) To promote re-distribution of income blishment of a National Distribution Cor- and wealth. poration. It is a must. This neW distri- (iv) To create employment opportunities. bution policy should be framed in such a manner that the total production-whether (v) To promote balanced regional deve- of multi-national or of natural companies lopment. should be taken together and the produc .. tion should be distnbuted all over the (vi) To assist the development of small country so that the consuming public can and ancillary industries; and get drugs at reasonable prices. Government (vii) To promote import substitution, save should also manufacture cheap drugs in and earn foreign exchange in the large quantity for the general public con- country. sumption. I need not add that the public enter- MR. DEPU1Y SPEAKER: Please prises were started as far back as in 1951. con-elude. Since then, from a figure of Rs. 29 crores SHRI R.P. DAS: Lastly, 1 would like as on 31·3-1951 in the 5 enterprises which to say a word about the loan licence system. were started then, the investment has laud- This system creates havoc in the drug ably increased to Rs. 34,4 I I crores as on industry. It has become the fountain-head 31-3-1984, in 214 enterprises. Similarly, of corruption and source of supply of sub- the number of public enterprises has also standard drugs to government hospitals. It increased from S as on 31-3-1951 to 217 as has also been used for financial and price on 31-3-1984. manipulations by the big companies. While some of the public enterprises At times this system has been used have earned profit, the majority of them against the workers by t he factory owners are running into hea vy losses and the by declaring lock-out and closure. They Chemicals t Fertilizers and Pharmaceuticals desire all sorts of advantages out of the are no exception to it. The figures pub.. loan licence system and use them against Iished in the Public Enterprises Survey the drug industry itself. Therefore, I would Report of 1983·84, Volume I, Page 3], do request the Minister to review this loan indicate that under this head, there bas licence system and ban this without been a net 10s8 of Rs. 65.97 crores in 1983- further delay. 84. as a,ainst Rs. 10.S3 crores in 1982 ...83. DeJJtatJ for IGrtmt6 CB~ITIlA 25, 1907 (SAICA.) B."..,./fir Grants 2&2 (GsnertJl) 1985-86 (Genertll) 1985-86 Thus. there has been an adverse variaiion Ministry of Chemicals and Fertiliz r.s, ...mel~ of Rs. 5,,44 crores. There are very maDY I.D.P.L., Virbhadra, Rishikesh. reasons for such heavy losses. But it is the'duty of the Ministry to exercise better There has bee n noticeable deterioration control and supervision on the working of in the performance of the JDPL which is these public enterprises. To my mind, we the largest drug man~facturina or,anisadon should lay main emphasis on the following in the public sector. main points :- During the last 20 years as on 31st (I) Cost accountancy of each unit of the March, 1984-this important unit has incur.. public sector must be done more red a cumulative loss to the tune of Rs. carefully and rigorously. No in- liS crores and on 31.3.1985, a further loss dustrial unit can succeed in its work- of Rs. 20 crores is anticipated. In fact, this ing un Jess cost of prod uction has unit has not been able to establish itself been properly worked out and co- playing a leadership role in such a vital related with its income and expendi- industry as drugs. The performance of ture aspects. IDPL on the marketing side is equally poor. The total value of the s.lIeable products (2) All-out efforts should' be made to lying unsold is Rs. 35 crores and the total totally stop all the wasteful expendi- outstandings to be collected is another ture. My own assessment about Rs. 30 crores. In fact, whatcver the the working of the public ullder- IDPL produces, they are unable to seJl; takings is that they are giving more and whatever they are able to sell, they attention to luxurious office Jiving are unable to realise. Further the IDPL and wasteful expenditure. Let us has so far not been able to frame spocific inculcate among them the idea of personnel policy which is hampering its simple Jiving and earn more and more. smooth functioning and working. Actt1RJly speaking. facilities and con- veniences should be provided only There is no regular Chairman and in proportion to the quantum of Managing Director or Din:ctor, Finance production and profit. and no Chief of Personnel in this project (3) The personnel policy of our public as these officers have been retiring during enterprises has still not been for- the 1,Lsl one year and no repJucemcnt has mulated in the real sense of the been made so far. As a matter of fact, a term. Rules and regulations regar- company of the JDPL size established 20 ding service conditions of employees years ago and employing over ]5,000 per- in a majority of them have not been sons, has no personnel policy, especially framed. This gives a free hand to in respect of OffiClfs/supervisors. The management to indulge in discri- highly dedicated and experienced officers minatory treatment amongst its em- and supervisors have been labelled as ployees and favourite~ get better unqualified and unfit for any promotion, deal at its hands which creates after putting in 15 to 20 years of merito .. frustration, discontentment and dis- rious service, making them a totally satisfaction among the remaining frustrated lot. On the contrary, a few employees which ultimately jeopar- officers who huve no visible contribution dises the very interest of the public in the organisation have been getting undertaking. regular promotions. The reservation Policy of the Govern- In 1980, an amount of RB. 25 crores ment is not being implemented in right was spent on the expansion, and adding of earnest in the public undt'rtakings. There new products, in the Rishikesh plant. AU is therefore, widespread dis.ontentmcnt these new products are either lying unutj- prevailing among the p~ople concerned. lised or the products have yet to be stabi- Adequate attention shot'ld be paid to this. lised. Bulk products made under the new In this COll11ection, to quote an example, I expansion scheme are being produced at Jboution the case of one of tbe units of the a very hiSh cost and beinl sold to private \ I DlMtmd fth Gra'ltt! APRIL IS, 1985 Dlmantl/D' Gr_l, fOe.ral) 1985-86' (Geteeral) 1985-86 [Sbri Oanga Ram) jetts though there cannot be two opinions that they can be good administrators. To drug industry at a huge 10s$. This is run the public sector mere efficiently and obviously not a happy situation at all. to utilise its capacity cent per oent ·you Thus the entire structure of IDPL needs have to equip your officers with technical a thorough sbake.. up, and complete over- and managerial capacity. Until this is hauling to make it a financially viable unit done, these units c(\.nnot earn profit. AU which may be able to produce cheap the fertiliser plants in the public sector medicines and drugs for millions of this arc incurrir g loss to the tune of crores of country. To quote Kautilya.. the great rupees whereas the plants in the private economist of his times, the State which s~ctor are earni' Ig profits. In ~pite of our cannot provide education, medicine and providing all the facilities and foreign litigation or justice at a cheaper rate cannot exchange the public sector has earned a be considered as a good State, more so, a bad name, It is all because the big officer~ Welfare State. do not have the cclpJcity to run the plants. They are not aware how production may I hope that some of the humble suggeCi- be increased and industries may be run by tions made by me would help the Ministry maint •.ining go."\d relations with workers. of Chemicals and Fertilizers to do its best Our present lAS oflkers or Administrative to improve upon the working of hundreds Officers ,lre unable to run the projects of units of public sector enterl"rises under properly, It is true that during the last it and would in due cour~c of time make few years, we have achieved many times them really viable and useful upitc}. more the target of self sufficiency and With these observutions, I fully support have fUl tht'r strengthlIlcJ l>ur economy the demands for grants of the Ministry. by way of saving foreign exchange but stili OUf supply is Jess than the demdnd. [Translation] We can definitely increase Ollr production if we supply fertilisers to the farmers on a SHRI GIRDHARJ LAL VYAS large scale. We C.ln help the countries (Bhilwara): Mr. Deputy Spe;'lker, sir, I which ule bdckward and which need food- support the demands of the Minic;;try grains for t,eir !'.tarvmg m ..\~se..,. In thi3 of Chemicals and Fertilisers. Sir, we are con eetlOn, ollr Government h.1VL t~lkcn not producing fertilisers in our country ill action alrt·ady. In the comiug Seventh prorortion to our demands and we have to rive Year Ph'll, It 1<, proposed to install spend thous(!nds of crores of rupees on its six cr seven frrtili'\( r pI mts Rut what import thcugh we h[ ve minerals in our IS t:.... progress in thIS I eg Regarding the other projects which, If you look at the fertiliser plants in according to you, will be completed in the public sector, Y0U will find that al- the Seventh Five Y car Plan, I have to most all the plants af.! incurring loss. say that I do not think you will be able To check these losses it is necessary that to achieve Y0ur target because the Seventh a committee should b~ constituted which Five Year Plan period has already started may go deeply into t!le reasons for losses and no progress is being made in any of and submit a report to Government. If your plants. Each of these projects is the losses are due to labour trouble or worth Rs. 600 to Rs. 700 crores and power shortage, then the mdtter is diffe- when the w{ rk starts after two to three (t"nt but if the losses are occurring due to yenrs, the price escalation at that time inefficiency or mism,magcment, lhen they will be so mllch that each projt.ct will should definitely be heJd r(!sponsiblc and cost about Rs. ] ,000 crorcs. In such a the severest action should be take.l against situation these big r. pl1a lists will start them. To ward off losses due to mis- saying to Govl'rnment that till they are management in the public s~ctor under... able to manage that much money, they takings as well as the private sector under- cannot complete the project work. Thus takings, we shall ho.lve to take the strict all our proJects will remain non-starters. action. Drawing the attention of the hon. In answer to one of my questions as to Minister towards this !-litllation, 1 would whlt action Was taken j:lg tinst a big officer Jike to say, since he hr~ ~]ready said in of a project in my are.! who h:.td gone to an answer to one of my qve'itions that England and sold there COiJ,).!f rivds worth jf a capitaJilit Who h's been issued a Rs. 21 crore~. you had replied that after licence for the setting up of a fCI tiliser inquiry by CBI and other agencies, he was plant fails to complete the project in the Ilot found guilty but was dismissed from stipuh~ted time, his licence will be can- service. When some officer is dismissod celled and the job will be entrusted to from service, there must have been certain some one else, that it is imperative to serious ch lfges against him but the way take the sternest action to ensure speedy attempts are being made to protect him and supply of fertilisers and some how or hush up the matter, I would like to say other, we should try to achieve the target that unless this tendency is checked, you of producing 20 lakh tonnes of nitro- cannot stop these undertakings from in- $enous fertiliser by the end of the Seventh curring losses. Such a situation crops up Five Year Plan. It is absolutely ne~essary because of these people and the under- to take such steps, otherwise you will not taking th.:n goes into loss. These people be able to achieve your target. make the industry sick and invest its assets in new companies and e.Hn profits. The Besides, the setting up of four more position is the same everywhere whether p1ants have been entrusted to private it is a public sector undertaking or it is a companies and you hJve not intimated private sector undertaking. There is de ... anything about their progress in reply to finite need to take strict actio, against my question. According to my informl- such people. If timely action is not taken, tion, work has not started on any of th>! the economy of our country will be plants. If the speed of completing the jeopardised and all our progra llmes for fertiliser plants remains the sam~, not speedy development and removal of even a sinsle plant will be completed in poverty and unemployment from tho Demaild for Grants APIUL J 5. 1985 De 1JII.JIUl/0I' Gl_~' (General) 1985·86 (General) 1985-86 [Shri G lrdbari Lal Vyas] ments should be made in thi$ regard so country would not be implemented. We that standard medicines are produced in have to take action well in time. Govl..rnment Ullits and arc made available easily to the consumers. Durin, question hour, Mr. speaker had asked the hon. Minister to take stringent On the one hand, people are dying for aotion against the private companies want of life·saving drugs and in the other which are producing sub-standard fertili- these drugs are lying unused in the stores. zers and thus exploiting .pur farmers. Medicines worth crores of rupees are Action must be taken in this regard distroyed in l. D. P. L. and these medicines could not be utilised by anybody. No Sub-standard pesticides arc being mar- attention is being paid towards wastage of keted in the country these days. These hundreds of crores of rupees in this way. pesticides do not have any effect on the crops and they are damaged completely. I would like to dCdW the attention of In the public sector, there arc on1y two the hon. Minist~r tow,lrds this and would factories producing pesticides. A1t the ask him to take suitable remedial steps. remaining factories are in the private It is the spe.;iJ.l responsibil ity of Govern .. sector which are manufacturing spurious ment to CIl&urc availability of medicines. pesticides and are thus earning huge If Government is not able to ensure profits. You should look into the matter av..tilability of medicines and drugs at as to which arc the factories which arc cheaper rates, whdt would be the impres- in the production of spurious engaged sion of the people at ),ugl.! about Sl ch a pesticides nnd are thus looting and exploit- Government'? It is your rC!oIpoll'iibility to ing the farmers. Stringent action needs to see that all arr,.mgemcnts in this rcgard arc be taken against such companies. strengthened and streamlined. The people At the district level, there is no mach- are the backbone of this country. Through inery to take action again!olt the persons increased production, they wdnt to contri- selling spurious pesticides. What is the bute tow.uds the progress of the country. arrangement at the district headquarters Until you work with an iron h.Jnd and t..tke for taking any action against the persons stringent action against the capitalists, you engaged in marketing spurious pesticides? would not be able to achieve ~UCcCS'i and There is no such arrang~~ment at vilJage the country Cdflllot man.:h tow.lrd\) progrcss. level. If any complaint is made to the officers posted there, they say that they Our Government h .. vi.! good intentions have not been authorized to take any and they are competellt tu deliver the goods, action in the matter. Without giving any but the middlemen credte obstacle" in the rights to the officers, no action could be Wdy. We would, therdore, h,lVL to take taken against the persolls selling spuriou\l action ag,tiflst thcse middlemen al~o. pesticides. Such an arrangement should, therefore, be made to see that stringent With these word~, I ~upport th~se action is taken against them. Some demands. machinery at village level must be evolved in this regard. [Eng/ish] I.D.P.L. is your biggest project SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahhub- engaged in the production of medicines, nagar) : The performance of our economy in which can make availnb1c mcdh:ines and the vital sector of f(:rtiJi'icrs chemicals and drugs at cheaper rates to the entire popu- drugs has been ch,lractcrised by a commo- lation of India. But m.:ny small companies nality of malignant m,\ladies. Firstly, it have been est"blished in the country, whkh is the explodil:g impOJ t bill burden which are er.rning t.ugc profits, while a large will play ducks and drakes with our balance Dumber of Government underL,lkings are of payment pOSitIOn. Secondly, it is the incurring losses. The Centra) Government unbridg.lble gap between the 6th Plan have invested crorcs of rupees in these target and the actual achievement on undertakings but these undertakings are account of lack of political will to provide p.lwa)'s runnins at a loss. Proper arran8e- for investible resources in ~he lcaitimate I elflQlfd for 6fo_t. ClIAl~1lA 2$, d,S1D7 (SAKA) DemMtllor Orlmts 210 (Gene,ql) 1!J8,S~ (Generol) 1985-86 econolTlY. Thirdly, it is the poUtical There is an immediate nced for maderai- favourtism and corruptio~ at ~he top sation of equipment to improve the worJdna leadinl to delay and inefficiency in the of the existing units. Easily. our worst functioning of our undertakinls. plants are Talcher and Ramagundam which until recently worked only to one-third of To begin with fertilizers, we are today their capacity. The Talwar Committee, spending Rs. 1000 (.-rores on foreilo about two years ago made a detailed e~change on import of fertilizers. recommendatjon in regard to what should According to one well informed view, our be done to these two plants. They sugges.. projected import bill on fertilizers will be ted additional gasifiers and boilers; and of the order of Rs. 10,000 crores during investment of Rs. 280 crores so that these the Seventh Plan period. We keep blow- two plants can incr,ase the working capa- ing our trump,t about our food self- city from 30 to 80 per cent. But the sufficiency. We are importing ftrtilizers Government has not been able to tak.e on a gisantic scaJe. We are also importing any steps whatsoever on the recommen .. edible oil of the value of Rs. 1000 crores. dations of the Talwar Committee. It is, therefore, in correct to say that our dependence on foreign aid in reiard to One can appreciate the need for high food has ceJsed. It will be more correct priorHy for fertilizer sector, when one takes to say that it has only assumed a more a close look at the consumption pattern. subtle form. There was 21 per cent increase in fertilizer consumption in 1983-84. There is this year Thb is the right time for assessing our 16 per cent in.:rcasc in fertilizer consump- performance in tiny sector cf (.conomic tion. Our total consumption has gone up activity for two reasons. Firstly, this is to 9 mil1ion tonnes noW whereas our pro- the terminal year of the 6th Plan period. duction is now 5 miJlion tonnes. Even Secondly, 6th Plan period coincides aftC}.' all the plants which arc now under completely WIth the second reign of lonstruction are completed, our production Congress (I). Our 6th Plan target in the capacity will only go up to 9.3 million case of toth nitrogen and phosphate js lonnes. According to the Working Group 56 lakh tonnes as against our actual of the Planning Commission our require- achicvtment of 51 lakh tonnes. The ments by the terminal year of the Seventh shortfall is 5 h.kh (onnes. The reason Plara period will be of the order of 15.4 given for thi~ is the pitiful supply of power, million tonnes, and dec;pite substantial This is not at all true because we have incre(lses which we plan to effect in ferti. not been able to iHvcst the necessary lizer production dUring the Seventh Plan resources in the sector of fertilizers. The period, we will stilJ be ob1iged to sp(.ud provision for fertilizer sector in the 5th Rs 10,000 crores worth of foreign cxchallge PJan wns Rs. 1555 crores. This was duril g the Seventh Plan period. There is increased to Rs. 2088 crores in the 6th therefore an imperative need for massive Plan. This represents a step up by 34 per investment in the fertilizer sector. Our cent, but the actual amount spent is only goal should be absolute self-sufficiency by Rs. 1455 and odd crores. the end of the Seventh Plan in the Ferti- lizer sector. Even our new schemes are 13 bra. lagging behind the schedule. But for Guna of National Fertilizer Company, all other It is interesting to note that this is less gas based plants are facing delays. I will than what we reaUy spent during the, Fifth only point out a few cases. Plan period. Our Government can find more than One thousand crores of rupees Jagdeeshpur which is to be set up by the for tUilding stadia~ fly-overs and five star Indo-Gulf Company has run into difficulties hotels in New Delhi for Asiad, without any in raising domec;tic reS MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Don't Sir, the IDPL is a big company. I bring his name ()n the record. would like to know as to why the IDPL **Not fC9orded. 215 De_n4/_ 0,0.'11$ ~/tJr\tbMf. (G6n"al) 1985·86 ro".,,,,IJ J9B~86 (Shri S. J aipal Reddy] sus,endcd (or some time and it should be is asking other companies to produce produced in the cO\tntry. A sufficieat drugs for it in the name of encouraaem~nt number of factories should be establtshed of sma]) sector units. Why can't the in the country so that our country could IDPL undertake it itself before asking become self sufficient in the production other small sector units to produce these of fertilisers and there could be savini of drugs? What is the procedure adopted foreign exchange which could be utilized for entrusting this process to these units? for other purposes.. It is not impossible, if We take a firm decision in this regard, So many multiaationaJs are allowed to because we have got engineers, we have be engaged in this area of pharmaceuti- resources and we can very easily achieve cals. It is very important for the this target. Also, we have to pay great Minister to note that aJl of them are attention toward~ the fertilisers beiDa engaged mostly in the production of for- produced in the country at present. As I mulations, not eSlicntial or r~r~ drugs. have already slid, fertiliser is I directly How is it that the multinationals are related to the farmers and our farmer is allowed to operate like this? What is illiterate and ill-informed an d is not able the policy of the Government in regard to understand many things. As a result, to the scope of activities of multinationals mis-branding, adulteration, underweighing, in the area of pharmaceutlc~lh,? I would loose begging and less bagging is resoiled also like to know from the Minister \0 in the matter of fertilisers. The persons whether he has taken note of the fact working in a fertiliser factory, factory that the mtr It lIl .. LtLn..lls h •.lve tdken mOl e owner, dealer, retailer, all of them are foreign exchange flom t hI.: ,"ountry than awa, e c f the fact that ft:rtdl~er is being the equity capital they hdve been able to supplied to the (drmers at a rebate and spare for the country. Tncrefore, I want they w.ml to take the maximum advanhtge. the hon. Mimster to reply to come of They have no hesitation in deceiving the my points specific,lIly. farmers in the matter of fertilisers. I wouJd, therefore, request that you should [Trails/at ion] make foolproof arrangement to ensure the proper weight in a bag of "fertiliser and to SHRI RftJ KUMAR RAl (GHOSl): check adulteration by taking whatever Mr. D(puty Spraker, Sir. I dm very grate- c;teps you like. Fertilisers of all brands ful to yotl fc I glvmg ml' an opportunity are found adulterated and they also weigh t to e.xprcss my views on t IH' dcm.l11ds for Ics .l'be speech was orilinally delivered in '[amU. De1nanJ for Grqlfll CHAIT.A 21.1907 (SAKA) Demantl/11r Gr4nt, (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 There is also ]ar.e... cale adulteration. The The IDPL since its inception has incur- salt is ground into nice powder and mixed red the cumulative loss of R~. 141 crores with fertilisers. This affects the yield in and in 1984 the loss W.lS of tho! order of the agricultural land. The distribution is Rs. 24 crares. The IDPL has monopoly also in the hands of vested interests. The in producing certain formulations and bulk farmers are unable to get quality ferti .. drugs. There is no competition in sales. Iisers at reasonable prices. I suggest that I wonder why should there be losses by fertiliser distribution shoul" be done IDPL. All the products of IDPL are through cooperative sector. There are 9 purchased by Governmental agencies. The h ; [c fertiliser factories and three small indents are placed by the State and the fertiliser units in the private sector, which Central Gover.lment institutions. In are functioning profitably. I suggest that this environm::nt, why should IDPL give the f(. rtiJisers produced by them should Rs. 30 lakhs as commission to the indent.. also be distributed through cooperative ing agents? When there is competition, sector. incentives and s des promotion efforts are needed. Here there is monopoly sale ] want stringent steps for eradicatinl condition. Ii. is not necessary to give any adulteration in fertilisers. Inspection commission or in(~entive by the IDPL. Squads should be set up at prominent When such w .. st<"'fu I expenditure is stop- distribution centres, which should take ped forthwith, then the losses by IDPL sampks for testing. It adulteration is can be minimised. Such mJ.lpractices are found, then the distributor must be pena- not conducive for the growth of public lised on the spot. It is the bounden duty sector in the country. of the Government to protect the farmers from the c~ploitation of these vested I would also refl..·r to another malprac- interests. tice on the part of IDPL. There seems Sir, I have tn bring to your notice that to be some unreasonable affinity between the effluent') from Mcttur Chemical IDPL and another private drug company. factory, Chemplast factory, Travancore The IDPL has given the formulation for Chemicals fhctory arc endangering the a bulk drug to this private sector drug common people oUhide these factories. company on monopoly basis. I am sure The (.ffiucnts are let out in the open that the hon. Minister will not appreciate fields. This affects agricuJtural efforts. such shady de,lIings on the part of IDPL. These effluents also mix with drinking In The Hindustall Times of 7 April, 1985, water, which afflicts the people with dif- the EnglIsh dlily coming from Capital, ferent diseases. The pollution caused by there is an artidc about this. I r~quest these dHuents can be seen from the aff~c that the hon. Minister should Jook into ted areas in Gunachandiyur, Murugan this and take appropriate steps to allay Nasar in Mettur. These factories must apprehensions on the part of a wide cross.. be warned and they should be compelled section of our people about malfunction- to take effluent control steps. The com- ing of IDPL. mon people must be saved feom the dan .. gerous consequences of these effluents. I would Uke to take the opportunity of mentioning that SPIC, a joint sector ferti- The I ndian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals liser Ullit in Tuticorin, Tamil Nadu, was Ltd., a public sector unit, is manufactur.. working under loss till 1974 .. 75. With the ing bulk drugs in its five factories. These advent of AIADMK Government in Tamil five factories produced ill J983-84 drugs Na<.1u 1976-77 this premier fertiliser unit worth Rs. 122 crores. We have to appre- has started functioning profitably.o Here ciate this effort on the part of IDPL. But it is necessary to mention that the price the IDPL factory has not functioned in of fertilisers should be reduced so that it 1984 propertly. The production in 1984 is within tbe reach of farmers who are was 50% that of production in 1983. The committed to augmeJlt agricultural pro- hon. Minister should investiaate the duction. The malpractices, irregularities reasons for this fall in production in IDPL and deficiencies in the distribution of at Madras a,nd take a,ppropdate steps for fertilisers must also be eliminated imme- "voi4.iJw such r~.rrenGe. diately. This will b09St the morale of bemand lor Crants bemonJlor Grants (General) 1985 .. 86 (General) 1985·86 [Shri R. Annanambi) At present, phosphatic fertiliser is the only fertiliser which contains a small our farmers as they will get quality ferti- percentage of micro .. nutrients. By the lisers at competitive prices. The losses continuous use of fertHisers and less use being incurred by fertiliser factories can of organic manure, the soil is becoming a Iso averted by tightening the productive deficient in absorbing the nitrogenous I (.)( rsses in these factories. When these r fertiliser as well as phosphatic fertiliser. f(rtiliser units function profitably, then the rrkcs of fertilisers can be reduced This system has been going on since ~r( 1 tanc(,usly. J am sure that the hon. long for which the farmers are running :Manister will bestow his personal atten- 10)8s and they are put to lot of difficulties. tion in this matter and take drastic steps So, to overcome the deficiency in the soiJ, for enslI ring rrofit .. bl~ working of public we should improve the qUulity of the sector units manufacturing fertilisers and fertilisers or we should encourage appli .. also drugs. Before r conclude, ( would cation of super-phosphate fertilisers. demand that the primary drugs must be made av.. ulable in rur~l areas. This 13.45 brl. Ministry should formulate detailed plans [SHRI RATH in the chair] for this purposes so that the people in SOMNATH rural areas are able to get. primary drugs. Sir, a scheme for higher production of pulses, oil-seeds and cotton has been With these words, I support the De- t~ken up under the 20·Pomt Programme mands and conclude my speech. mtroduced by our beloved late Prime [English] Mmister, Shrimati Indira Gandhi. A higher production of these cereals is maIO· SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA (Bella· Iy dependent on the applJc.ltlOn of the sore): Sir, 1 rhe to support the Demands super-phosphate fertiliser as no other for Grants of the Ministry of Chemicals fertiliser can substitute thIS because it and Fertilizers and at the same time I am contains sulphur also wluch IS an Impor- OPPOSIng all the cut motions which have tant ingradient for higher Yield as also for been moved in the HOll~e .lcbievmg quahty oil. At present, super- phosphate IS being m ..mufactllred by ~\ I wiJJ speak only on certain main points number of small scale industries in the and I will not speak elaborately. country. The price of super-phosphate has been fixed by the Oovernmen t both for The production of phosphatic fertihser large.. scale and small-scal~ industries. The and also nitrogenous fertiliser has increa- smalJ-scale jndustries consist of smaH sed somewhat, although. it has not in· units. The small-scale industries do not creased according to the demand of our have their own sulphuric a.cid manufac.. nation. turing plant. But the big and the large- We are estimating that we m.1Y import scale mdustries' are havmg their own Rs. 12,000 crorcl) worth of fertIlisers from plants for this purpose. The Government abroad. In 5.pite of our best efforts to is not paying them the cost of acid utili- ,ctivise public undertakings engaged in sed for the super·pho'iph \le fertilisers. production of fertilisers, we are not utili· Whatever subsidy th~ government is sing their capacity to the fullest extent. giving to the small scale industries, it is So we Import f",rtilisers at a huge aiven at the same rate as is given to the quantity. large-scale industries. The units in the small scale industries are funning loss and they Our policy is to supply fertiliser to are demanding the price of the acid used cultivators at subsidised rates whether it in the phosphate fertilisers. I would there- is imported or indigenous. Subsidy on fore like to draw the attention of the bon. our indigenous fertiliser is comparatively Minister to kindly re-consider the whole Jess than the import ed fertiliser. We isssue. should try to encourage the production of indigenous fertiliser and minimise the Sir, Whatever W~ may say, I would import of fertiliser from aborad. like to submit ~that the public teeter hit. /)emands ior (Jrantl cHAlTltA 2~, 1901 (SAtCA) /JemanJa/Dr Grant; (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 are running at 8 Joss. In this connection', weather and also how much subsidY would I would like to draw the attention of the be given to the cultivators. I would hone Minister to the Report, page 24, of request the hon. Minister to kindly Jo~ the budget estima1e circulated to us. I into these fuctors of the fertilizer industry. would not ]ike to elaborate it. Sir, the Talwar Committee in their report made While concluding my speech, I will only emphasis on the urgent need for additional make one point about chemicals. From gas-b~.sed plnnts. I do not know what the report, we see that the production of action Governmrnt has taken to implement soda ash is reducing day by day. This it. As f'r as my information goes, no is used by common man every day. The action has been taken so far on the report production of soda ash should be given a of the Talwar Committee. I would there- priority. fore request the hone Minister to look into it. With these words, I support the De- mands for Grants of this Ministry. Sir, in the Seventh Plan, it is expected that the estimntcd cost of fertiliser to be SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE imported would be more than Rs. 10 (Panskura): Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is a thousand crores. We should take such vast subject and I do not want to go into action as not to spend such a huge all aspects. I shall particularly concen- amount on the import of fertilisers. In- trate on one aspect onJy and I would stead, we should make every effort to meet implore you that you give me a little our country's dem, nd by increasing the in- time. digenous production of nitrogenous and phosphatic fertilisers. One of the striking Before I come to the principal subject, features is that the public sector under- I would like to join my voice with the takings are not utilising their full installed earlier speakers in requesting the capacity. J may cite examples of Talcher Minister to take active interest for and Ramagundam fertilizer plants. quickly taking up the project of Haldia Petrochemicals in our State and put it in The utili7ation of their installed capa- 7th Plan. I do not want to dilate on it, city is only 30-35 per cent. This should though I whole-heartedly join my voice be given due attention by the Ministry so with the request. that these two plants may run smoothly and they may utilise at least 75 per cent The principal point that I want to dis- of their installed capacity. cuss today is the new drug policy, which I hear, is under the consid"ration of the After completion of the projects under Cabinet. As you very weD know, 7S per construction and assuming that the capa- cent of our population is outside the pale city will increase upto 10 per cent, in the ~f drugs because they cannot afford to 7th Plan, even then We have to import purchase these. The twenty five per cent about 6.5 mil1ion tonnes of fertilizers from Who can buy they are buying at exorbitant abroad. The Government should think rates. Everybody would agree to this. This about this very seriously so that our is also known that multinational drua com.. countrymen may not have to pay such a panies and the big Indian drug companies huge amount on import of fertilizers. are clamouring for price hike. From what I have come to know about the proposed Similarly, the Planning Commission new drug policy, I am afraid that it may working group has pointed out tbat ferti- lead to a surrender to them. That is why, lizer consumption would reach 15.5 million on this point, I want to make my ideas tonnes by 1989.. 90 against the estimated clear and I want to know from the Minis- consumption of 8.4 million tonnes at the ter as to what the rea) situation is. Now end of the 6th plan. The growth rate at present, how are the retail prices of the of consumption of fertilizers, as against 11 drugs fixed ? You would be knOWing that per cent. in the current year it wHl be there is a formula under the Drug; Price about 19 l'er cent more. The consumption Control Order as to how it is fixed. Ono of fertilizers will depeDd upon lood is material eost called Me, lecotld ts tbl JH.manJs for GrQllt" ~RIL t',198$ Demt:llltls lor arants (General) 1985·86 (General) 1985-86 [Sbrimati Oceta Mukherjee) Government not to knuckle under the CC, i.e. Conversion Cost, third is PC, multi.. nationals· and big Indjan drul mono- pactins cost and then comes PM, packing polists' pressure. Why do I say so ? Is it material. These components make the the only way to stop this so called dis- ex-factory cost and on that is added 'mark orientation? up·. This mark up includes profits along Is it the only way, i.e. to knuckle before with some other things. them, give them a much bigger profit and Under the present systcm of control order make the consumer suffer? I say; No. That that is there now, drugs are divided into is why, Sir, I wanted.a little time from you. four categories. Catl~gory J is most essen- 14 brs. tial drugs, Category II-essential, Category Firstly, I want to show thJt these com- III-all other decontrolled drugs and so on. ponents, before mark-up, viz. material Under the present order for the category costs, conversion cost, pdcking cost and of most essential drugs, 40 per cent mark pdckmg mateTtal, togethl!r make the ex- up is aIJowed, that is, apart from those factory price. After that comes profit. four elements which I have stated, for Has the Government ever exercised its profits and some other things, 40 per cent mind to see wh.lt are the profits derived, is allowed for most essential drugs. For even in calculating each of these four Category II, that is, i.e. essential drugs, components? 5S per cent mark up is allowed and for Category III, 60 per cent mark up is I will give one example. Let us tdke allowed all the others decontrolled. Now this cOllversion cost. I have come to what is happening at the moment? Much understand this. 1 am sorry to quote an more drugs are being produced in this Indian comp.lny. T am sure-the situation decontrolled category, and in the control- is even worse with the MNCs -that the led categories less and Jess production is calculation of process loss is given to be coming up. 5% in conversion. After material, in the conversion stage, 5% loss is elBowed. In Now, in order to rectify, J quote the reality, only half-a-pcr cent to l°{, loss takes word 'rectify, this disorientation in produc- place. That means that in this process tion, 1 understand that a new drug policy itself, there IS a big profit, which is not is going to divide up the categories afresh cJiculated. Your 5'7'0 IS a ficitltiollS thing. and also fix up ncw mark up percentages. Am I correct '1 Yes Now what is going I have come to understand, that lust year to happen? It will be most interesting to Sarabh.li Chemic,Lis, within this conversion listen. Now what is the situation in process alone, m.lde ,l profit of Rs. 2 regard to Category I ? On ex-factory price crore';. MNCs must have m..\dc much after the four elements of cost, 40 per cent more. Why this 5(Yo ? Have you gone into mark up is there. That means profit this seriousJy, and seen what is the real comes to about 40 per cent for most convcr&ion cost? essential drugs. In the new policy which is going to be proposed, jf I know cor- Secondly Hbout packing costs. As you rectly, these categories wiJI aU be revised know. these days all kinds of fancy pack- and instead of four categories, there will ing;; nrc coming. We should take the be only two categories. But the mo~t medicine, not the packs. They come in important thing is that in Category I, the fancy packing. and the companies push up mark up allowed will go upto 75 per cent the price of packing. Government says Okay. instead of 40 per cent, If J am not wrong So, packing comes under ex-factory cost. and in category II, this mark up will go This can be slabhed down very seriously. upto 1:.0 per cent. So, in the name of We do not need all these. Why does not rectifying the disorientation, Government Government enquire into these things, and is aivins them much higher profit. This, see that in these four categories, in each as we understand, will naturally push up of them, how undue profit is beina made? all the medicine prices sky-high. This is So, firstly before mark.up, this should the position. be very seriously examine whioh, I am ~tlow Sir~ I implore and I request tbe surc, is not beina done. IJemtlndJ /fJI' 0,_11 CHAITRA 2S, 1907 (SAKA) Demanth lor Grantl (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 Then about mark.. up. What is this: having sood life at the cost of pepole who from 4()Ok for essentials it bas lone have elected UB, but not for tbose who strailhtway upto 75%? Why? What has have ele~ted us. happened. and why should it. in a country where only 25% of the peopJe can afford I totally oppose these demands. I the drug; and that too, when the poor and want a complete reorientation in the new middle classes are goiog out of it, and drug policy in the interest of the people loing ill for homoeopatby ? Just because and Dot in the interest of the big drug the multi-nat iOllals want it, do you just companies because the government has give 75°/~ or 1250/0 mark-up,? If this is been going on like this. I do not sup- loing to be the new drug policy, I am port these demands. tooth and nail opposed it, and I implore that the Government should re-think about Now I tell you how in effipien t the this in their new drug policy which is now government machinery is. Even today under the consideration of the Cabinet. many of the bulk drugs are imported from the foreign countries. Now, in the ma- Secondly. as I understand it, the neW tt.rial cost that bulk drug imported cost drug policy has certain other features as is entered. The imported cost does not well. For example, the multi-national remain the same over the months. Let companies have a lot of installed capa- us take the case of Revampicin-a T.B. cities, much more than their licensed drug-it appreciated at a time costing Rs. capacities. In 1980, when the late Prime 3,200 per kg. and at that rate, the Minister formed her new Government. she material cost was coming in the dosage. had intervened in a discussion and said Within a period of 8-9 months, the that multi-national companies should not international price feU from Rs. 3,200 be aIJowed to produce more than their crores to Rs. 1700 crores. Government licensed capacities. In any case, they go did not Jook into it that the price bas beyond it through underhand dealings. fallen to such an extent. In the mean- But this was very seriously said, viz. that time. the old price continued and natu.. they should not go beyond their licensed rally TB patients were fleeced; and the cap:'lcities --because, as you know, such Government opened their eyes after this is the distortion of drug production to-day total loot had taken place. that it is the de-controlled items which is mostly produced and sold, not the essen- I do not feel that only conceding to the tial ones. That being the case, these multinationals would be the only reply. multi-nationals arc trying to have a higher The machinery can be seriously overhauled grip over the whole thing. and a new orientation is given at all levels. The drug prices must be controlled within I understand that the new drug policy our reach. With these words, I oppose is going to change the position, and that the demands for grants.. it is going to wi thdraw certain restrictions that are pJaced on the muJtj-nationals. In SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL (Erandol): The view of this, I want to say that if this Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers i. new drug policy comes in the shape that mainly responsible for the agricultural I have told you that is as far as 1 have output. It is heartening to know that tho understood it, it wiJ] be absolute1y anti- fertilizer units have recorded all time high national and a total surrender to the in their capacity utilization. But tho multi-nationals, depriving the millions of fact remains that the present use of fertili- the little quantity of medicines that they zers by the farmers in the country is very can consume today. low. The national average is about 36 ka per hectare. It is ten times more in deve- 1 earnestly appcal and hope that they loped countries. In Japan and Korea, will cbanae it. If they do not do it, I do the per hectare utilization of fertilizer is not know how our country will have 400 q. That means we have to increase health for all in the 20th century. I do not the capacity utilization of the fertilizer know health for whom; may be for Tatas units ten times by addina new Wlit' or and Bidaa; may be for some of us who are expandina the capacity of the exil" D,1IUJ1JJ../tw Otant, Al'RIL 15, 19t~ be,,",,", lor Grant. (Q,"~r.I) 1985·86 (General) 1985·86 (Shrl Vijay N .. Patil) production of fertilizer so that tbe burden UDitS. Even with the present r~rtmzer of subsidy can be reduced~ Micro nutri- capacity, whatever is applied to tbe soil is ents have been developed by NBK Fertili.. not fully utilized by the crops. This is zers which we can make use of now. We because of the wrong application and should also use organic fertilizers now. As application at wrong time. I would sug- we al1 know, many tonnes of cow drug is seat that seeds-cum-fertilizers grid should being wasted every year as fuel for cookin, be developed and subsidy should be given purposes. Because of this, the orpnic for the purchase of the seeds-cum-fertilizers manure is not being used for fertilizer grids so that the wastage-sometimes it is production. There is sufficient quantity SO p:r cent-of the ft.rtilizer applied will of organic manure in the country. and it be saved and the loss will be minimized. is also being used in other countries. Japan We broadly think that fertililers mean js utilising compost, Chma is utilising nitrogen, potassium and phosph.tte. the night soil, and there is a plant based on sewerage in Germany. The But with the high yielding variety of concept of gobber gas plant is taking roots irrigated crops we must think of complex in the rural areas and with this the gobber fertilizers also by adding micro nutrients slurry will be available for applIcation in like zinc, boron etc. Some crops require the soil instead of being used 3S fuel for low chloride fertilizer like tob.ICCO, potato, cooking food and the slurry contains about grapes and other horticulture crops also. 2 per cent of nitrogen. In this field, I would urge upon the Minis- ter to think of increasing production of If we give fuJI subsidy to ten lalh gobar low chloride fcrtililer. After the new gas plants every year. hypothetically jf every concept of application of liquid ammonia plant produces 2 kg. of nitrogen which is to the crops hJS developed, the low cost equivalent to 4 kg. of urea. in terms of fertilizer and micro nitrogenous fertilizer money, hundreds of crores of rupees would caD also be developed. I ha.ve mentioned be saved, which otherwise would have been earlier that we have to increase the c.'pa- given as subsidy component. So this city of fertilizer production many times Ministry can coord1Jlate with the other more. The Previous units, the majorIty Ministries deallJlg in subsidies on gobar gas of them, which were established e,lrlicr, plants. were coal-based. Our experience with About pestiCIdes. wc are glad to know the coal based fertilizer units is not so that our domestic production is increasing. The at Talchcr is in- encouraging. unit We arc reducing imports every year. corring heavy losses. Of course, some During the Ja~t three years we have seen time back, the fertilizer unit at Rama- qlJlte a good reduction in imports. The gundam has recorded some profits. It is major pestIcides arc BHC, DDT, Mala- a silver lining to the But dark cloud. the thion, Carbaryl, etc. But at the same, we finding of gas in the Bomp..lY High has see that location of pesticide production made us think of starting gas-bJsed factories is a dangerous phenomenon. If fertilizer units, some in Uttd.r Pradesh it i~ located in the thickly populated areas, aDd some areas. In context in other this we have seen what has happened to the I would like to say that the Bombay High Union Carbide Plant at BhoPdl. Its gas it going all the way to the long location should also be decided. We distance plants in Uttar Pradesh. A sUTvey shouJd think of locating them in hill aeeas Dhol~ in Maharashtra Was made for or like the HOeL which is located in the fertilizer factory. The pipeline which a valleys of Shayadri Hill areas. In hill and goes from Bombay High should be con· remote areas, these units should be located. nect~d to DhoJe in Maharashtra. [will request the hon. Minister to look into this About chemicals, our chemicals are Dhole plant. It is estimated that the sub- costly as compared to chemicals sold in the sidy Qomponent for reducing the cost of international market. OUf chemicals are ferttlizer wUl require about Rs. 7,400 crore almost double in cost, It is because or ruJjeet by the year 1990 and this win not be the fact that our factories are very small sufttoffmt, but win go on increasing. We in their capacity. There are factories in sboutd improve or try other methods of other countries which are ten times biaser De1tllllft6 for 0 ••" CHAITR.A. 25.l9()I (SAK.A) D4mtltt11s 'ftn' (QMnt a (Ge""aI) 1985 .. 86 (Generlll) 1983.. 86 a. oompared to our chemical factories. (Translation) With "the incroase in the c.paoity of these factories, the cost of the chemical produc- ·SHRIMATI N.P. JHANSI LAKSHMI tion is reduced by 30 per cent. So also (Cbittoor): Mr. Chairman, Sir, OUrt i$ wAIn we start sotdn. up these chemical an agricultural country. Though the factorics in the public sector, they take a production of fertilizers has gone up ever long lestation period and because of that, since we achieved our independence it i. the cost increases, the technology becomes too inadequate to cope up with the obsolete and the public sector unit be .. dfmand. The production of fertilizers has comes crjpple and remains a sick baby not been commensurate- with the demand. from the beginning. Henoe I would re.. quest that the private sector should also According to tbe Planning CommiuioR be encouraged in this field. A high level estimates, we may require to import working group was set up under the fertiliz~rs worth ten thousand crOfes of chairmanship of Mr. Lovraj Kumar. It rupees by the end of the Seventh Plaa. submitted some reports. One of the Though we have been importing 10lakh important suggestions is that there should tonnes of fertllizers every years, we are be some policy for the hydrocarbans and not able to meet the internal consumption issue of guidelines for entrepreneurs so fully. The fertilizer plants~ which were that it will enable them to make long established at a cost of thousands of crores term investment decisions. This should be of rupees, are producing only 50010 of their adopted in the proper pcrc;pcctive. optimum capacity. The production in these fertilizer plants mU'it be increased atleaat Lastly, I would like to mention ahout to 75 n{, if we are to cope up with demand. the gas from the Bombay High. Milliuns Some of these plants have obsolete machin- of cubic metrci of Bombay High gas is ery. Steps must immediately be taken to flared everyduy amounting to croces of modernise these old plants. rupees of wastage on the onc h,md and we arc importjng chcmitals on the other. Sir, the cost of construction of the There is a proj~ct called Maharashtra Gas fertilizer plants is almost doubling. One Cracker Complex. the estimated cost of reason for the escalation of the cost of which is about Rs. ] 400 crores and the construction is that they are not being production is likdy to be three to four completed within scheduled time. The lakh tonnes of cthykne per yC~lr. I would result is that the allocated amount is not suggest to the Minister that let this sufficient enough to meet even half of the project be installed. What is holding it expenditure involved in setting up the plants. back, I do not know. If it is started, the A plant with an investment of Rs. 1000 gas that is being wasted will be properly crOTes costs Rs. S crores more if the com- utilised. pletion is delayed by a single day. So also As the time is short, I would not like a project worth Rs. 100 crores, if delayed to mention about the drug policy. I by one day. would cost Rs. 1 crore more. Hence the present policy of the Go'Vetn- congratulate the Departmentt the Minister and the officers for increasing the pro- ment to take up too many projects simul- duction of drugs and substantial increase taneously, then finding it very hard to find in its export also. At the same time, I money for their completion when they are half way through, is erroneous. Instead, wIlt suggest that th~re should be more stringent rneasurts adopted for curbing it is better to take up the construction of production of spurious drugs. The policy one project and compJete it in time, so about fixation of prices of drugs should that there win not be any escalation in the also be implemented in full. cost. It will also boost the production. With these words, I support the De.. Sir, at present the Government arc mands of the Ministry. offering subsidy to the tune of Rs. 3854.41 *The speech was orisinally delivered in Telulu. Demtllllb lor O'a"tl APRIL 1', 1985 Del'lftllllb ItI' 61'tJirll (Ge"utJl) 1985-86 (General) 198$46 (Sbrimati N.P. Jhansi Lakshmi] up without any further loss of time. They crores. Even then the prices of fertilizers should not be allowed to incur losses are'too high and proving beyond the reach year after year any more. of farmers in the country. Hence the excise duty which is being imposed on Sir, it is very surprising that tbe drup fertilisers must be removed immediately. which are banned in other countries are If the excise duty is removed on fertilizers, still being prescribed in our country. I they will be cheaper atleast by 50%. request the Government not to permit Farmers can purchase fertilizers at half the use of such drUBS which have alreadY of the rate they are paying now. Sir, I been banned outside. The ban on these take this opportunity to pJead for a blanket drugs must be imposed in our country ban on the export of molasses. At present also. there is a shortage of spirit. Many hos- pitals in the country are facing crisis as Sir, certain companies are deceiving they are not able to get the required our people by false advertisements regard- quantity of spirit for their day-today use. ing certain tonks which are no tonics at We can manufacture alcohol which is all. Hence I draw the attention of the used in organic chemicals industries and hon. Minister to see that no fake tonics ethyJacitate which is used in the prepara- are sold with the heJp of adv('rtjsements. tion of medicines and chemicals like acetic A strict quality must be ensured in the acid and acitone can very well be manu- sdJe of such tonics. factured with in the country itself. We can earn valuable foreign exchange by There is one carbide factory in Karna- exporting these items. taka. A permit WdS given to Dldnufacture acetelene black. Con~iderab]e amount was There was an unprecedented industrial al~o spent on thie; factory. But unfortuna- disaster at Bhopal only a few days ago. tely the product of thic; company has no So steps must be taken to avoid recurr- market in the country. It j" very much ence of such tragic incidents in our surpri')ing to sec the Government import- chemical industries. Anti-pollution ing this item from other countries forgett- measures must be implemented with all ing the f.l.et that this product i') available sincerity. within the country Itself. Such has been the poJicy of the Goverr.ment. I request The quality of D.D.T. and other the Government to stop importing this pesticides and insecticides is very poor. product any nlore so th,\t the acetelene Hence the Government must alert its bl..H .. k whkh is produced at carbide factory quality control machinery alld see that the in K.trllatJk~l can find a good domestic standards are maintained meticulously. mdrket. It is most unfortunate that still most I conclude by th.mking you for glviDg of the business is in the hands of multina- me this opportunity. tionals. These companies are collecting hundreds of crores of rupees by royalty SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : just for the use of their brand names. Mr. Chairman, Sir, our country's popula- Now the time has come to ban the use tion is increasing and it will ao on increa- of brand names of the mllltinational sing further. According to one estimate, cOlllpanies operating in the country. The we shall have to produce about 2,26 million Government must see to it that all essen- tonnes of foodgrains by 2000 A.D. in order tial and life saving drugs are produced to meet our requirements. Today many within the country in public sector experts and thinkers subserve to this view. undertakings. These drug~ must be avail- The role that Fertilizers will have to play able to the common man at cheaper there is 80.9 per cent. Only then we shall rates. be able to achieve the target. So far as irrigation and dry farming are concerned ' The functioning of the IDPL units in their role. Will have to be 8.2 per cent. tile country is rar from satisfactory. The Much has been said about supply of ferti- manaaement of the IDPL must be toned lizers in the country and it is ttue that '110 2a1 D,"""'/.r G,."t, ~ CHAITRA 25, Ito' (SAICA) Dtmandllo, Oranl, (G.,al) 198'..,6 (Genere#) 1985.. 86 do not adlieve tho targets fixed in the palities to produce their own fertilizers and Plan •• Government should provide them witJI assistance. Theseafter Government should [English] Jift the fertilizers from tbe bodies entrusted with their production. Panchayats should U According to the 1984-85 annual report also be asked to produce fertilizers. but of the Chemicals and Fertilisers Minis .. Government have dropped this scheme. try, the anticipated production of nitro- Government are paying less attention 10" genous fertilisers during the terminal year wards the areas where fertilizers can be of the Sixth Plan was 3.9 million tonnes produced in· large quantity. Sir, the Korba and of phosphatic fertilisers 1.25 million Plant is causing poJlution also. New tonnes, against the Plan target of 4.2 factories are coming up in tbe country. million tonnes and 1.4 million tonnes, Let us see what is happening in Chembur. respectively. " [English] "The expenditure on the fertilisers pro- gramme was Rs. 633 crores less than the The Rashtriya Chemicals and Ferti- Plan Outlay of Rs. 2,089 crores." lisers' plant at Chembur, which has become in a way a pollution hazard .... ., "In respect of the basic drugs, only 56 per cent of the Plan target is expected [Trans/ation] to be achieved and jn the case of formu .. lations 74 per cent. ,. Factories are coming up and Po)ution Boards :lre not taking any measures. You So, that is the pl)int. 56 per cent of the are playing with the lives of the people. target has been achieved. You have made arrangements for setting up of pesticide plants but have not taken [Translation 1 any anti-pollution measures. Besides. I would like to ask Government whether It sho ws clearly that we arc not able to there is any law to deal with the persons achieve targets fixed in the Plans formu- adulterating fertilizers. Have you ever lated by us. Whdt are the reasons why awarded punishment to anybody in this you are Jagging behind in every field 1 Have matter 1 The target~ fixl..'d have also not you made a deep study of these reasons been achicv.,cd. and taken action to remedy them? Simi- larly you could not achieve the target fixed You had proposed to set up a factory at in the Sixth Five Y car Plan. Have Govern- Sawai Madhopur in Rajasthan but God ment ever examined this question seriously knows When it wiJI be set up. I want to why we are not able to achieve the say that at whatever place you set up a targets fixed in the plans? What and where plant, proper arrangements should be made are the shortcomings and how can these to run it. A diplomat has been appointed be removed 1 Government have themselves to manage the affairs of I.D.P.L. IDPL~I come out with the reasons. The outlay condition is too bad to need further on the Korha Fertilizer Plant, which was elucidation. The Administor itself should estimated at Rs. 150 crores in the begin- think over this problem. You talk of bring- ning, has escalated to Rs. 220 crores and ing about improvement in it, but you it may increase further. There is no know very well the situation prevailing question of the plant being completc.d with there. in this amount. Its machin('ry has been lying idle f()r the past several years. The The Minister of Fer~j)jzers and Chemi.. Korha Plant was scheduled to be comple- cals as well as the Health Minister are ted by 1965 and now it is 1985. This is present here. Our Health Minister has the position of your plants. No plant is said that by 2000 A.D. everybody will completed in time. On what basis can you enjoy good health. It haS a great impact say that you will make availabl~ fertilizers on the people. But she should tell us to the farmers? If you are not in a posi- whether there is no adulteration in the tion to complete tbe plants, ),OU ask inunici-. druss available today. Today it is ,aid D~/tWGN1tt' De"""/or 0,.." (GMertJl) 1985-86 (G_eral) 19B5~6 ~hti Mool ChaDd Dap) The same is true about druas. HaM dat if one IOes to the market to purchase you chal1aned the persons induIsina in J)OiIon. one will not get a poi'on which is adulteration of drugs'll hope, our hon. not adulterated. What is the condition Minister, Shri Patil will accomplish both about dru,s ? these tasks and will plug theIloopholcs and bring about improvement. [EntU.rh) "In 1982~ the Drul controller of India That is all I want to say. issued D.O. letters to the State Drug Comtrol Authorities instructfng them to ·SHRI T.V. CHANDRASHEKHAR- ban the manufacture and sale of 20 APPA (Shimoga): Mr. Chairman, Sir. I such drugs. Further, the 001 issued rise to support the demands for grants a Gazette Notification dated 23rd July, pertaining to the Ministry of Chemicals 1983 banning 22 such drugs." & Fertililcrs \\'hile supporting the demands I Welnt to highlIght some of the [Translation] vital issues for the kind attention of the They banned the sale of these drugs, hone Minister. Many of my colleagues but the same druas are being sold in the have already referred to the manufacture market. You just see the coordination of fertilizers. As per reports, all the between the two Ministers! The drugs fertilizer factories are working very well. which are playing havoc with our health are In fact they are much ahead of the target. being manufactured and sold. All credit should go to the workers, organiser'i .wd adminic;trators. J thank I would like to know from the hone tht m all for their hard work. Minister the number of officers-in charge of the hospitals in the country, I would There are different problems faced by not say that five to ten out of them are not different States with reg,lrd to production honest, but what is the number of those of (...hemicals and fertlJilcl s. The main who purchase sub-standard medicines ? problem IS the shortage of power. How- How many of the companies producing ever, the target of production has been sub-standard medicines have been chal- achieved. But before the fertilizers reach laned? Both the Ministers arc present here. the f,lrmcrs they are adulterated. There is Will they please tell me whether sub-st.\n- 110 control over this adulterdtion in~pite of dard medicines are not being sold today? Ccntr,ll Government's instructions to St.ltes Artificial scarcity of drugs, the sale of to check adulteration I want the Centre which has been banned in the market, is to tLlkc note of thIs mutter and punish the created and then they are sold. Such things persons indulging In adulterdtion. In this should be stopped. regard the Centre should ask the States to You sho\.lld make further progrcs~ be very vigilant. with relard to the production of fertilizers. There should be accountability of the Managalore fertilizer plant is hard hit officers of the department so that the due to the power crisis in the State of farmers could get the required quantity of Karnataka. The plant cannot work fuUy iga.c.:tulterated fertilizers. for about five to six months in a year due to shortage of power. Therefore I urge The main point to be look~d into is that captive energy should be provided to who the sale "gents of fertilizers are. What the plant to get maximum production. is the basis of their appointment ? To Sufficient funds may be allocated to supply whom do you allot agerci.cs? We have the required quantity of power to this seen that bungling is being done in this plant. In Karnataka some marc factories matter. The people who are given should have been set up by this time. But aacncies, themselves indulge in the adul- they have not come up due to shortage of teration of fertilizers and dupe the farmers power. Karwar is near to Bombay High. and cause them loss. -The speech Was ori,inaUy delivered in I(.annada. D.,..". fttr aNIIAI, CHAIT&\,2', 1907 ~A) Detn4lll41 /Of' GrfllU8 242 (O ..HI) 1915-86 (Generlll) 1985~86 A. factory .hould be set up her. in tne sector which should lay more emphasis 00. Seventh Five Year Plan. Th~ sea shore of checking adjulteration and increasing the Karwar is an ideal place for scUin, up production. Each State should have its factories. own public sector unit and it should supply pesticides to farmers at subsidised rates. I was a member of the Health Consul· tative Committee and I have lone deep Our Government is planning to moder.. into manufacture of pbarmaceu ticals and nise irriPtion in the 7th Plan. In addi don drllis. Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals to this there should be adequate production Limited and other public undertakings of fertilizers. All the old factories have to are doing their good job in the production be expanded and modernised. Once again of drugs. They are getting sood assistance I request the hon. Minister to set up a from the States also. Our hon. Minister fertilizer factory in Karwar and conclude Shri Veerendra PatH has extended the my speech. IDPL loan facility to all States. They can return 90% of the loan first and then 10010 can be returned later. But no State res- SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH ponded properly to this facility. (Chhapra) : Sir, it is true that fertilizers oocul'y an important place among the There some complaints against the IDPL inputs required for increasing foodgrain becaulie it is a public und~rtaking. They production. Therefore, it is necessary say that IDPL is not earning good profit. that not only the big farmers but the There may be some problems here and smalJ, medium and marginal farmers also there which can be solved by careful exa- in the country should get a rea(j~nab'e mination. The main reason for complaints quantity of fertilizers in time at SUb5idised against IDPL and other public sector rates, but such a situation dOl'S not exist companies is mainly due to the competition in our country. The fertilizers are not between private se.:tor and public sector. available at cheap r,ltes. If at all the There is some conspiracy in which doctors, fertilizers are availabl~, these are sub- scientists and officials are involved. I do standard and do not reach the farmers not say that everything is perfect in IDPL. in time. Particularly, in our State, you There may be some loopholes but they can might have read in the newspapers that be removed easily by examining them. sowing of rabi crop was going on and due IDPL is producing most of the essential to the scarcity of fertilizers, the fum ~rs drugs to the expected level. were knocking at the doors of the authori- ties, but they couJd not get the fertilizers The hon. Minister has mentioned about in time due to a dispute between 'DISCO the distribution of molasses and alcohol. Mann anel the Government, and due to In his letter dated 14.2 1985 to the Chief non-availability of fertilizers in time, the Minister of Karnataka he has referred to sowing operations of rabi crop~ in the the need of molasses for the Sta teo The entire North Bihar were delayed. hon. Minister has asked the Chief Minister of Maharashtra for supplying molasses to Mr. Chairman: Sir, therefore, I would Karnataka. But strangely the Government like to request Government to make effurts of Karnataka bas supplied spirit to Kerata to produce a~ much of fertilizers as In the month of March 1985. In this regard possihle and at the SJme time achieve the I want clarification from the Centre as to targets fixed for the Seventh Five Year is the competent authority to distri- whoI Plan. But, going by the policies of (he bute the unutiliscd spirit. Is it the State Government, it appears that Government Government or tbe Central Government? will not be able to achieve the targets. Government have set a production tariet I want to reiterate about the adulte- of 2.25 crore tonnes of foodgrains by 2000 ration in pesticides and weedicides. Espe- A.D. 80 per cent of this target wiIJ be cially in the hiahly irrigated area pesticides achieved by using chemical fertilizers and and fertilizers will account for 2/3 of the the rest through other means. The produc- total cost of inputs. Therefore instead of tion of nitrogen and potash last year W,lS private sector it should be the public S2.S takh tonnes and 16 lakh tonnes .q 243 De""', f~r Oftnlls APRtL tS, ,ft, De7lJtIlItb lor 0,."$ (General) 1985-86 (Ge"e"") 198$-86 fShri Ilam Babadur SinS}ll sion will not help in increasins fertilizer respectively and Government propo~e to production. But you cannot do away with increase their production to 99 lakh tonnes mechanisation. and 29.8 Jakh tonnes respectively durina the Seventh Five Year Plan. In other The situation which prevails in the words, Governmcnt propose to produce country in respect of' fertilizers is also in all 128 lllkh tonnes of r(rtiliZ:ers. being faced in the field of medicines. Government are of the view that the Today the common peopJe do not Bet increase in the production of fertilizers quality medicines at cheap price. There will be ensured through the ten plants is shortage of life-saving drugs in the being set tip in the country which will country. Tuberculosis is not an incurable start production from 1985 to J989. Thus, disease. It is not difficult to get rid of it. new plants will produce 4.6 lakh tonnes But, today many people die of tuberculosis. and by the time We enter 1990, the deficit Who are these peop1e ? They are poor will somehow be reduced to 36 lakh and they die because the main drug for tonnes. The same position will continue the treatment of tuberculosis-streptomycin till 2000 A.D. Therefore, I would request -has run into shortage. This medicine is that Government should also think in out of the reach of the poor. 'Kaa)azar' terms of an alternative. Our traditional has taken an epide mic form in my State means should be developed. bio-gas should of Bihar. The vaccine (or it is not available be developed and an effort should be made to the common man. If peopJe want to to set up f mall plants in pll the nooks and buy it from the market, they cannot afford corners of the country. Government it. This situation has arisen due to the should enCCUfC.,gc the people for this. shortagc of life saving drugs which are not available of the people at low prices So far as the question of the prices of because the multinationals have the control fertilizers is concerned, Government's Over such essential )ife saving drugs in contention is that the price of fertilizer is our country and they are in the habit increasing because the price of the inputs of carning as much profit as possible being used in its production has gone IIp irrespective of whether the product is or the margin of profit has illcreased or sub-standard or the manufacturing cost the freight charg,s have gone up. In this of it is low or high; they do not bother connection, I would like to submit to about that. That is why all the multina- Governmcut that they themselves r,Lise tional companies in the country today are the freight, the mal gin of profit, and the engaged in the production of Vitamins prices of inputs. Therefore, if the price instead of life-saving drug'). Even healthy of fertilizers go Up, they themselves are people are advised to take a bottle of responsible for it. You give something vitamin; the consumption of sueh items to the farmers With onc hand but take is more and the m.lI gin of profit very if back with the other. Government say high. That is why they divert their that they r~quire a lot of capital to maximum capital to these items. Our introduce new technoJogy. J fail to Government also give all patronage to understand that though with the use of these multi-national Companies. Govern- neW technology, the production goes up ment do not patronise and encourage our and the price of the finished goods is own companies which develop neW reduced, yet Government say that with techniques after putting in hard work the use of new technology, the price of and doing research. That is why the the goods goes up. Therefore, I want to capital of these foreign companies in the suggest to Government that the idea of country has risen to Rs. 370 crores today bringing in neW technology shouJd be as against Rs. JO crores in 1947. According abondoned and instenu small plants be to the Hathi commitee's Report, foreign set up to increase production. you capital has grown III times in the country should evolve stich means and such a between 1952 and ]973. Therefore, my system whereby both educated and lln- suggestion is that in order to free the educated people can be provided with country from the clutches of these employment and their talent utilized. multi-natiollal companies, it is necessary Computer tecbnolosy and colour .televi- for you to nationalise aU the multi-n".. ~ IDr 6t'MI. CHAITRA 2', 1901 (8AIC.A) D,mtmll 10' Gr.t, (ChlWfal) 19BUf (Gent,al) 198$-86 tional companies. The 1000 of the formation there is no shortaae of ferti· country i, not possiblo without nationali.ing lizers and every farmer is gcttinl fertil .. them. You should live incentive to the izers. It is another thing that due to companies of our own country. As long lack of proper distribution arranaements. as you continue to allow 24.5 per cent fertilizers may not reach certain areas. profit to the multinational public com· But it is a fact that adequate quantity of panies and 34.5 per cent profit to the fertilizers is a vailable in the entire coun- private foreign companies as compared try. The reason for delay in avaihbiHty to 14.5 per cent profit to the public of fertilizers is tholt after the DCp'irtment companies of the country and 11.S per cent of Agriculture has sanctioned the quota of profit to the private Indian companies, no fertilizer, trucks etc. are not availabl-c. good can be done either to the people or This results in delay and the farmers are to the companies of the country. The obliged to face some difficulty. I, there- shortage of medicines will persist and we fore, requ~st the AgricuJture Minister to shaH not be able to meet the requirements ensure that sma]] fertilizers factories are of the people in respect of life-saving set up in each division and outlets h1ving drugs. a capacity of one or two tonnes should be opened in each block for the distribu- Therefore, I request that in order to tion of fertilizers. In this way every far- get out of the clutches of these mnltina- mer will be able to get the fertilizers tional companies, you should nationalise according to his need and he will not them. Arrangement should be made to face any difficulty. get those medicines produced which are needed in the country, and more and I would like to S.lY one thing OlOiC. Tne more capita) should be invested in the State Warehousing Corporations should be production of fertilizers after making instructed to keep with them adequate up your mind. The country will benefit stock of fertilizers and build more godowns only then. With these w()rds~ I oppose in the entire country so that the farmers these demands for grants. can get the fertilizers easily. It should also be insured that their employees per- SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV form their duties honestly. I had b~e'l th~ (Morena): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support Chairman of the Madhya Pradesh State the proposed Demands for Grants in respect W~lfehousing Corporation and 114 W.lre .. of the Ministry of Chemicals and Fertili- houses were built during my time. zers put forth by the Minister of Chemicals and FertiJizer. I have seen the times before That is why J have adequate knowledge and after 1947. Before 1947 only co- of it. In the end, I would like to say mpost was available in the country and that warehouses with a capacity of one to the farmers were not able to get their full two tonnes should be set up in e~ch block requirement of manure. That is why the so that the fertilizers could be within the country'D economy was in a very bad easy reach of the farmers. shape and there was nominal production of foodgrains in the country. But when With these words, 1 support the Dem- the Congress Government came into power ands for Grants in respect of this after 1947, there has been marked impro- Ministry. vement in the production of fertilizers in our country for which our former. Prime lEnglish] Minister, late Smt. Indira Gandhi, the Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, the SHRt LALITESHWAR SHAHI Minister of Agriculture and the officials (Muzaft'arpur) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, before deserve congratulations. The people from suggesting something about the fertiliser th~ opposition may say anything about production, I would like to mention two non-availability of fertilizers, but now the or three points of local importance. Sir, position is different. the first fertiliser factory of this country was located at Sindrias. As a measure of I come (rom the Cbambal Division of reparation, after the Second World War. Madbya Prad~.h and acQordia. to my ill· 10 the Sindbri township, more than 8000· D• .,ona for Or""" APRIL J&, 198$ D ..""",/tIrChW (Gattrm) 198$-86 (a.ur.l) J9I~ (Sbri LaJiteshwar Shahi) This baa raised ,reat IU$Picion mtbe houses have been constructed. Later on, miDds of •• PfOJ')le thelle. I would MCIuelt the old plant has been replaced by a new t.he hone Minister ooncerned, to scrutinile it, plant and it works on oil to produce nitro- analyse it aad see how P&D can be reMored genous fertiliser. The old plant used to to its original glorr and status at Sindri. It enlploy a bout 7800 people and tbe new is said tbat this place Jacks telecornmunial- plant requires only balf or less thaD that tion facilities, tolex etc., but is it not for of the number. So, what happens is that tbe State Government to provide these infrastructure facilities like transport, facilities. It is a part and parcel of hospitals, roads, water supply have' become Government of India and it is a matter of surplus and are available for any new inter-ministerial concern. The Ministry plant. But the department has so far not concerned can be asked to provide telecom- tried to utilise that infrastructure. munication and other facilities to Sindrl. 15 hrl There is another thing which I want to Moreover, the Planning and Development put before the hon. Minister for his consi- Division of Fertilizer Corporation-earlier deration. Barauni refinery is one of the ear- it was Fertilizer Corporation of India, now liest refineries in the country; it was establi- it is an independent unit in itseJf,--has set shed in 1960. For the 'ast ten years We have up plants at Namrup, Nangat, Gorakhpur, been hearing that a petro.. chemical complex Barauni and other places in the country, is going to be set up at Barauni. At one but gradually the Planning and Development stage in t9S4, we were told that the licence Division is being shifted from Sindri in bits was on the point of b('ing jssued. Forty and parts. Fipd of aJJ, the agronomy scc~ thousand tonne capacity had been sanc- tion was shifted; later on the training scheme tioned for some place in U. P., twenty- was shifted from Sindri, and now there is an thousand t0nne expansion in Gujarat petro- attempt to shift the technical offices slowly chemicals, and f(,fty-thousand tonne capa- and gradually in the name of clients' service city at Barauni. But r do not know where as if P & D Division is the only organisa- it is held up, how it is heJd tiP and on tion for serving the clients. I want to put what ground it is held up. The Bihar it berore this House that the Am~rican State lndu~trial Development Corporation technical consultants, KcIlog, and Italian had applied for a licence, but this is pending technical con~tlltan s, Snam Frogetti are for the last 7 or 8 years and to my know- also emp10ycd for Hazira and other plants. ledge, it ha-s not bC1:n disposed of so far. In one case, the Indian collaborators were I would request the Minister to kindly look P&D Sindri and in other case, Fertilisers into it and expedite it. and chemicals, Travancore. But neither the Kellog from Amerka, nor the Snam Progetti from Italy or the FACT had So far as fertilizer is concerned, I shifted their technical offices to site, but it would now place certain things before the is only the P&O Division at Sindri, who House from the point of view of a farmer. want to shift their tcchnical offices from There are many other aspects. The farmers Sindri. The other organisations had their are cheated sometimes by unscrupulous liaison offices at site. Jt Is known through- dea lers, who mix fertilizer with salt and out the world that if a consultant takes up other things and it ultimately destroys the a job, he puts up a liaison office at site and soil fertility. that office carries messages from both sides. but not that the technical office is shifted to So, I would suggest to the Minister a the site. 1t is only in the case of P&D thin, recognised world-wide, that is the Division, who in the name of servilll the fertilizer should be produced in granules so clients are trying dismember the organisa- that salt and other things are not mixed tion at Sindri. I would like to put it for with it. The other suggestion is to colour the information of the hon. Minister that some of the fertilizers which are beina for the last seven years, there has been no produced in powder form so as to diltinluisll recruitment of scientific personnel in that it from salt and such other things which orpnisation. 1s that not proof enough of are mUGed with it. By takin. eitlter of an attempt to shift it from Sindri ? lbqe two DlllaIU_. be Cab 81- totiot -'9 De,*"" lor rn." OHAI1R:A i$, i~1 (SAttA) b~mmtJa /01' Grants (G'IIef'4I) 1981-86 (Genel'lll) J98S-86 the farmen who are lMinl cbeated by tive suggestions. Some members expressed uDICrupulous dealers. some concern over the poor and imJ)roper fURCtionin, of som~ of our public sector One aspect to which ( want to point units. out is about the planniDl of fertilizer production. Even now we are producing So far as the Ministry of Chemicals fertilizer with 18 per cent or 20 per cent and Fertilizers is concerr.ed, it is one of content. You know Sir, in fertiliser pricing the Ministries in the Central Government at least 20 per cent is the cost of transport which is engaged in the task of economic and another 20 per cent is the cost of development of the country. There are three storage. 40 per cent of the price of the vital a,tivities l'oncerning the Ministry : fertilit:er is only transport and storage. For fertilizers, chemicals and pharmaceuticals. producing a fertilizer of 18 or 20 per cent, Many Mcmbcl s who participated in the we are uselessly spending on the transport debate expressed their unhappiness about and another 20 per cent on storage of 80 the country not being sclf·sufficient in tho per cent of its content which is nothing. production of fertilizers. I have got the There are fertilizers of higher content. Why figures, which speak for themselves. They are we not able to produce di .. ammonium will indicate the c \ trnt to which we have phosphate '/ Why are we not able to progressed in thb ti.:ld. produce other mixed fertilizers which a higher content, so that we do not lose on In 1980-81, Ol r production so far as transport and storage and the farmers do nitrogenous fertilizers were concerned, was not have to pay a higher price on that only 21.64 lakh tonncs; and in the case of count? That is the suggestion which I pho~phatic fertiJizus. it was only 8.41 lakh would submit for the consideration of the tonnes. In 1984-85, I am giving the figures Minister and the Government in this resard. for the 6th Plan period, production has gone up to 39 32 lakh tormes in the case of One thing more. Fertilizer prices are nitrogenous fcrtiliz rs amI to 12.62 Jakh fixed for phosphate, potash and nitrogen. tonnes in the case of phoo:;phatic fertiHzers. Now some intermediary companies mix Our estimate for the current year, i. e. these fertilizers and s.:ll it by their own J 985·86 is tha t I he production of nitro- names, sometimes as 'sada bahar' and genous fertilizers would be of the order of sometimes by some other name. If we 45.90 lakh tonnes; and in the case of compare the prices of nitrogen, phosphorous phosphatic f",rtiJizl rs it would be 13.78 and potash separately and then compare it Jakh tonnes. The demand for 1985·86 is with the price charged by the companies 6J.40 Jakh tonnes in the case'of nitrogenous for their product. it would appear that fertilizers. To-day, there is a gap of 15.50 they are charging a much higher rate. lakh tonncc;. ] n the case of phosphatic Why 1 Because, the control of fertilizer fertilizeas, to-day there is a gap of S.77 prices is at the initial point only and not lakh tonnes. at subsequent points. So, if the bigger factories start producing mixed fertilizers, I do not know whether the estimate of just as IFFCO and other Government units demand projection that is prepared by have started doins, these intermediaries Ministry is going to tally with the estimate who cbarge a higher price for these mixed that is being prepared by the Ministry fertilizers will not be able to do so to sottle of Agriculture, but that is a different extent and the farmers will not be cheated ql:1cstion. But according to the projec- to that extent. Th~s.e are some of the tion that is prepared by our Ministry, the suglestions which I want to place for the demand for the 7th Plan for nitrogenous consideration of the Government in this fertilizers will go \lP to 77.34 Jakh tonnes matter. With this J support the Bill. by 1989-90; and the production wHI be of the order of 69.31 lakh tonnes. Again, at THE MINISTER OF CHEM1CALS the end of the 7th Plan, there will be a AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI VEERENDRA gap of 8 Jakh tonnes in the case of nitro- PATIL) : Sir, I am happy that a SOOd genous fertilizers. In tI':e case of phosphatic number of'hn. members have p.tti~ted fertilizers, the demand will $0 up. by J 989.. ill the debate and made several CODstiuc- ~, to M.87 lakil tonnes. Then the bemtmJ, lor Ortmt, /)e"""/or Gr.,. (General) 1985·86 (Oe_NlI) ,198J~6 (Shrj Veerendra PatH] sometimes we are insistinl on that; and I production will go \lP to 21.94 lakh tonnes. must say that so far as fertUizer units are And by the end of the 7th Plan, the gap concerned, some of them are already would be of the order of 4.93 1akh tonnes in having these captive power plants t he case of phosphatic fertilizers. That is installed; some of them are in the the position with regard to the suppJy and process of beina installed; and so Car as den ~md during the 6th Plan period, and future projects are concerned, we have dl'ring the 7th Plan period. made a policy that every fertilizer project which is going to come up in the future ":louJd have its own captive plant; I agree with the hon. Members that we power that is how we want to face this problem have not been able to produce as much as of power shortage. Certain units which to meet the demand in fun. 'agree with had been set up long time back-I do not the observations made by several hon. wish to go into every unit-for instance I Members that we have not been able to Gorakhpur, Durgapur, Namrup I & U, achieve self.sufficiency in the matter of Barauni, Sindri, etc., they are very old fertilizer production. There are several units. reasons; 1 will take onc by one. PROF. N. O. RANOA (Ountur) Before I speak about capacity utiliza- What about Pusa ? tion, 1 want to tell the hon. members that the fertilizer production is increasing every year. In 1984-85, in the case of nitrogen, SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : I think the increase is 13.6 per cent; in the case that is a new unit. Those old units Were of phosphatic fertilizer, the increase establi~hed IS years ago or 20 years ago; js 20.4 per cent. Similarly, the capacity some are even older like FACT Udyog utilization is also increasing. In 1980-8 J, Manda). When these units are oJd, the capacity utilization in the case of they adopted the technology that was nitrogenous fertilizer was 52.8 per cent; available at that time. Naturally, there in the case of phosphatic fertilizer, it was wilt be frequent break-down of machinery only 6S.9- per cent. In 1984-85, the capacity and more wear and tear. Sometimes the utilization has gone upto 74 2 per cent in raw materials are not avaHable in plenty the case of nitrogen and 84.8 per cent or in sufficient quantity. So, these are in the case of phosphatic fertilizer. The the reasons for which the units are not capacity utilization is increasing and producing to the full cap~city. increasing fast, I must say. But I am not satisfied, as the hon. members said, that There are some units which have the capacity utilization should be hundred reached a stage where w~ are think.ing of per cent; why it should be less than that. diversifying activity: for instance, FACT I entirely agree with them, but there are Udyog Mandai unit. There are nearly several constraints which have to be taken 6,000 or 7,000 workers. I visited the into consideration. There is no point in factory in 1980 when ( was in charge of blaming the officers incharge of those units this Ministry. The machinery is obsolete, for low capacity utilization because they old technology and all those problems have got their own limitations for any are there. Supposing, all of a sudden, I utilizaticn capacity to the full extent. say that I will close down because it is I must say th,lt the greatest constraint uneconomical, and incurring heavy losses, is non availability of power. If we take the ques~ion is, what will happen to thoso any fertilizer unit, they are suffering people who are employed tpere 1 Where mostly because power is not available. That '" iU they go for employment? They have is why, we have taken a decision as a policy to be emplo,Yed somewhere. This was in not only about future projects which are 1980 and we sanctioned a capro lactum coming up but also for the existing project for FACT and tbat project i. in projects, fertiUzer projects, not depending execution. In another two or three years entirely on the State Electricity Power it wUI be completed, When it will be Grids, but have their own capative power pouible to shift them to aome other arransement. Weare eDoour_aiDa them; plant. bema,", for G,"'t, cHAITU 25. ~ (SAKA) J'Je1l1l1ntb lor (ka"t, au (GeneMl) 1985-86 (GenerQI) 1985·86 Similarly, Namroop..1 is a very old plant. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: J will When I discussed with our officers they said, tell you. I do not thfnk that all the "even then we are producing". I must Mem'Jers are und ..'r that impression, but compliment the workers and the manugc- one or two Members expressed that, and ment because they are producing and the they asked me why our units are incurring cap\lcity utilisation is not very po~r. And losses. They a' c under the impression for that we are executing Namroop III that aU public sector fertiliz~r undertakings and when Namrup III is commissioned, are incurring losses. I can quote them we want to close down Namrup-I urea figures. There are several undertakings, r/t. .. t so that the labour of that unit can Fertilizer Corporation of India. FACT of be employed in the new plant. That is Cochin, Hindustan Fertilizer Factory, why th~re are some units which may not Rashtriya Chemicals Fertilizers the be working very efficiently in the country. National Fertilizers Limited and the Madras Fertilizers Limited. I can say SHRJ C. MADHAV REDDI that FACT was incurring loss earlier, but (Adilabad) : All these units are working in 1984·85 they have made a profit of Rs. 16 only up to 50 per cent of the capacity, crores and Rashtriya Chemicals Fertilizers but in the private sector there are from 1979~80 ... I do not have the figures companies which are doing better. for the carlier P:'l iod. consistently they are making profit'). SHRl VEERENDRA PATIL : I will SHRI KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti- explain that. In the private sector and in paJayam): But what is the capacity the cooperative sector and the public sector utilisation? also there are some units which are making profits. The hon. Member seems to be SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL ; In under the impression that all the public 1979-80 they h<~d mdde a profit of Rs. II sector fertilizer units are incurring losses. crores. It is not so. So far as the private sector units are concerned, except one or two The figures of profit of RCF are likes units, the rest of the units are all new units this and they are a II based on up to date technology and one or two units are old. 1980-81 Rs. 18.53 crores Even then, the capacity utilisation is much 1981~82 Rs. 21.26 croces better. It is because at that time, when 1982·83 Rs. 22.47 crores they set up that factory they imported the entire machinery. The entire plant was 1983·84 Rs. 44.05 croces imported. But here, when we want to set 1984-85 Rs. 40 crores. up a factory we do not import the entire Consistently they are making profits. plant or machinery. We are importing the technology and based on that technology The figures of profit in the case of we are asking the local manufacturers to National Fertilisers are as folloWS: manufacture and supply them the machinery. I will come to that point 1981-82 . Rs. 59.75 crores because one of the Members had asked 1982·83 Rs. 34.29 crores about those plants. 1983-84 Rs. 23.55 crores 1984·85 Rs. 40 crores. SHRI MADAN PANDEY (Gorakh- pur) : Will you plcase let us know about Madras Fertilisers has been makinl the Oorakhpur plant '} profit since its inception. Its figures are like this : SHkl VBBRENDRA PATIL It is ]981 .. 82 Rs. 8.29 crores not a new plant. 1982.. 83 Rs. 16.S0 crores SHltl MADAN PANDEY: Is there 1983 .. 84 Rs. 9.27 crores any e~paDaiob proaramme lor it ? 1'84-85 Its. 11.29 crotes. bemanJs IDr Grants bemanth lor Grants (General) 1985-86 (General) 198j·86 [Shri Veerendra PatiJ) I say that tke cost of production is '0"', It is only FCI and HFC which are up because the cost of input is goinl up incurring losses, because, unfortunately, and the investment on fertilizer is also they are owning all these old fertiliser going up. Th at is why, although the cost llnih. of production is going up, the policy of the Government is to make the fertilizer SH~I S. JAIPAL REDDY: All the available to the farmer at a stable and loss making companies were lumped attractive price, and that is why the tPf'ther. Government of India is spending so much r:l0neyon subsidy. I can give you the SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : You can figures as to how subsidy is increasing interpret it that way; I have no objection. every year. In the year 1980-81, the sub- There is no point in blaming the executive sidy was only Rs. J70 crores ; in 1982·83 for that. it became Rs. 550 crores; in J 983-84, it was Rs. 900 crores and in 1984-85, it went An hone Member wanted to know the up to Rs. 1,200 crores. This year we have position of Gorakhpur Fertiliser Plant. made a provision of Rs. J ,200 crores but The firet stage of this Plant is nearly I am not definite th'lt we can limIt this 16 years old. I must again tell you that subsidy to Rs. 1,200 crores because again the normal life of a fertiliser unit is about it depends upon the con'iumptlOn I 20 years. After that, I do not mean that agree When one or two hon. Members you have to scrap it and build a new one. S.ly that the consumption of fertiJizer Afterwards, you have to spend a Jot of per hectare in our country, compared money on replacement, revamping and all to other countries, is very much low, that. So, thh is one of the old units. The or that it is on the low side. There is no second stage is ten years old. The revam- dispute at alt. So, th'lt means there is ping programme of the GorJkhpur Ferti- sufficient scope. On the other hand. we liser Plant is going on and it iii going to want to promote use of ferLililers. For be completed in the next two years. thlt there are several schemes and a lot ef After this work is completed, I think, the money i~ being spent 111 order to popu- capJcity utthsation in respect of perfor- larise the use of fertilizer. So, dS and when mance will touch 72 to 76 per cent. the consumptIOn mcredses, naturally the subsidy also will go up, and that IS why the Hon. Members are under the impres- subsidy is going up at such a fast rate. sion that farmers are paying lot of prices Government of India have recently appoin- for fertilis(.rs. J must Say that the Central ted a High-Level Expert Committee to Government hUB been very liberal In review the pricing system of fertilizers and subsidising fertilIzers. The average subsi- subsidy in order to rationalise tho present disation in the case of urea is Rs. 1150 system. That Committee's Report is yet per tonne and in the case of phosphatic to come. When the recommendations of fertiliser it is Rs. 900 per tonne. that Committee are received, Govern· ment will consider them and take necessary Subsidy IS growing because the con- action in the matter. sumption also is growing. And we are fixing retention price because .. About the coal-based fertllizer plants, Ramgundam and Talcher are the two coal- (/nterrllption) based fertilizer plants. These two plants SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : All of were established at a time when the oil them will make 108s if there is no such position in our country was not satisfactory subsidy. and we were not in a position to say that we have got sufficient gas. We were only SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: All of depend ina upon either aapluba or fuel oil. them will not make loss. They make loss Hon Members are aware of the fact that if We have price control and if We do in 1972-73, the crude oil prices went up not subsidise them or the farmers. When all of a suddea in the international marut. we have price con\rol, that is 08 normative So, at that time Go~nment thQuaht that basis and we are bavinl the price control. inltead of alway. depen4in1 on naptba De11fllndJ for Grllnt' ,CHAITRA Z~, i 901 (SAKA) IJemanth/or Grants (General) 198J.86 (Gen,ral) 1985-86 for producing fertilizor, wby not they think and I think that experts ~ team is Talwar of alternate mode of production, and for Committee to which you are referring. the first time they thought of coal-based They have suggested some short... term fertilizer plants in our country. It is not meaSlJres and long-term measures. With a very popu1ar process of manufacturing regard to short-term measures, I think the fertilizer in foreign countries. I am told recommendations have been accepted and that there is one unit in South Africa are being implemented, and with resard to because they have got lot of coat and long-term measures, I think we are con- somebody was saying, I am not very sure, sultins the World Bank and we have to take that there IS Olje unit based on coal in East necessary action after we consult the World Germany. For the first time we had Bank, and in this matter also, it is under ventured to have a coal .. based fertilizer consideration, I think, from end to end, if unit in our country. I must say that is was I use the term .. a venture. At the same time, I do not know what words I have to use to say SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The recom.. whether our experience has been very mendations were made more than two happy, but I can tell you that till today years ago. these two coal-based fertilizer plants have not stabilised. They are not producing to (Interruptions) their full capacity. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Sir, SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI : Then most of the short-term measures have why is it that you have simultaneously had alreadY been implemented. In addition, an two plants? You should have gone in end-to-end survey of these plants is beiDI for one plant and then you should have undertaken by an expert professiona I group gone in for the T.alcher. Talcher and of W~t Germany with a view to identify Ramgundam both were taken up together the constraints and suggest remedial without perfecting the technology. measures. So, that will be gone into and after we get the report, whatever further SHRI V3ERENDRA PATIL : You action we have to take, we will take. But should have put that question to the here also the main problem in addition to Minister who was in charge at the time of the problem of plants stabilisation and aU putting up these two plants. I think they that, was the problem of power and this thought of these two units because in was more acute in the case of Talcher. Orissa there is sufficient coal and in That is why a power plant of 30 MW was Andhra Pradesh also there is sufficient installed in Talcher; now the capacity uti- coal in Singareni. So, they thought that lisation is comang up. Similarly, of course these two are the ideal places. They in Ramagundam the next-door thermal thought of one at Korba also. I think power station is there, therefore the prob- some hon. Member has asked me also lem of power is not very acute. what happened to Korba. At that time we had thought of Korba a]so but because With regard to gas-based fertiliser plants, our experience with regard to these two hon. Members wanted to know what is units has not been happy, we have been happening to gas-based fertiliser plants. I going very slow with regard to our Korba can tell the House that so far as the 8as- project. based fertiliser plants are concerned, in respect of two units in Thai in Maha- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What about rashtra I think the mechanical completion the recommendations of the Talwar is already over, trial product ion is going Committee? on and very shortly they will 10 into commercial production and in respect of SHRI VEER.ENDRA PATIL: I will two units at Hazira. I think very shortly come to that. Within this period the mechanical comple- tion will be over and tbey would also That is why hon. Members wanted to go into production. Thus out of ten, four know because a technical team was gas-based fertiliser projects are ,Oilla into appointed, an eX~8 team was appoiated, proOuetioD durinl tbis yea&" 1985 .. 86. Demands/or Grants APR.~ 1$, 1985 Demands lor Grllntl (Geni!ral) 1985... 86 (General) 1985-86 (Sbti Veerendra PatH) or two months. They will undertake the Out of the remaining projects one is work as early as possible and we will insist coming up in Rajasthan, one in Madhya that as per the programme, as per the Pradesh and four in Uttar Pradesh. schedule, they must execute the project During the last year, i.e., 1984-85 imple- and commission the project and go into mentation of three gas-based fertiliser it. projects has also commenced, one in Vijaypur in Madhya Pradesh, one in SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Who is the Aonla in Uttar Pradesh and one in Jagdish- consultant ? pur in Uttar Pradesh. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: That I An hon. Member wanted to know what do not know because they have yet to is happening to Sawdi Madhopur. In submit their proposals. Sawai Madhopur it is true that the work (Interruptions) has not yet been commenced, but there is no inordinate delay. J think the delay is I do not know whether the hon. Menl- only about one or two months. ber heard when I said the company has intimated that the contractual arrange- (Interruptions) ments would be submitted by the first week of next month that is, May, 1985. I tell you, the date of commencement, as We had decided in the case of Sawai SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. Madhopur, is 1.4.1985. We have already DEO (Parvathipuram) : ~ hich company? written to them and they have sent a reply. We were very particular that they SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: This is should commence this as early as possible. Birla Company. Although there Was a delay of not even one full month. We have already taken (Interruptions) action, we have written to the Company I will expJain that also to Shri S. Jdipal as to why they have not taken any action, Reddy. He is under the impression that why they have not commenced the work. we in the Government are insisting on a But the hone Member, Mr. Jaipal Reddy particular consultancy. I want to make has his OWn reasons for that Company it very dear that we are not interested in not to start even. I will come to that also. any consultancy. It is for the company to decide and choose their own consultants. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Am I inte- rested in buying shares or what ? So far as technology is concerned, I have already explained that this Was dis- SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL : In Sawai- cussed several times in the last Lok Sabba madhopur, as I said, the work would also. have commenced on 1-4-85 but the pro- ject authorities did not come up with So far as technology for ammonia and the draft contractual arrangements and the technology for urea are concerned, they were called upon to explain the Government of India long time back has delay and the company has intimated taken a decision because of the bitter that the contractual arrangements would experience in other units, to have one set be submitted by the first week of next of technology for all these ten units. month, that is May, 1985. And as soon as In the case of ammonia, Government they submit the contractual agreement of India has seJected two technologies, and after we approve the agreement, they one technology Haldor Topsoe, another will take further 8< tion. t~chnology of KelJoggs. Haldor Topsoe belongs to Denmark and Kellogl btlonas I wanted to give the details in order to to United States of America. dispel the impression lurking in the mind of the hon. Member that there has been Another technology for urea, that is considerable delay in starting this project. only one techno}oIY. It is only Snam It is Dot so. The delay is only about one Proietti. Ut De""",,a/o, G,,,nt8 CHAtrlU i!. 19m (SAKA) bemtlltJs for Granta (Cklleral) 1985-86 (Gener;zl) 1985-86 So far as the technology is concerned, I for ammonia and Snam Proietti for do agree that We insist that for ammonia, urea •.• they can select anyone out of these. (Interruptions) For urea, there is only one technology which is approved by the then Govern- MR. CHAIRMAN : The Minister is ment. They have to take only that not yielding. He is on his legs. So lon, techno)ogy. as he is on his legs, he is not yielding. SHRI S. JA IPAL REDDY: National SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : With Fertilizer Company is your company. It regard to gas-based fertiJiser plant, as I has decided to replace Kelloggs by Hal- said, in Sawai Madhopur, work is going dor Topsoe. According to your own to be commenced shortly. admission,. Kellogg is also admissibJe in the area of ammonia technology. Then why MR. CHAIRMAN: You were talking did NFC replace Kellogg by Haldor about Jagd;shpur. Topsoe? SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL I have SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I do not already made that point. think the statement made by the hon. Member is correct because NFL is our There are two un its which have yet to own organisation and whatever they have be started. We have not given the letters decided, that is according to the Govern- of intent, that is, in Babrala and Shahjahao- ment policy. pur. SHRI S. JAJPAL REDDY: The hon. Hon. Member Shri V.N. PatH was Minister should tell me what is incorrect asking: what about having a gas-based in my statement. fertiliser plant in Maharashtra ? The pipe- line which is coming from Hazira is for (Interruptions) feeding six gas-based fertilizer plants. We 15.45. brs have decided this time to have these ferti- liser plants in the interior areas; it is [SHRI ZAINUL BASHER in the Chair] because it is better to have these ferti- liser plants in the areas where fertiliser is SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What is being consumed. That is how We can incorrect in my statement ? avoid transportation cost and all that. I do not know whether, after meeting the MR. CHAIRMAN: Let him finish his requirement of these six fertili~er plants, reply. Afterwards, you can ask. there will be any gas available because if there is any gas available, again we have SHRI VEERENDRA PA TIL: As I Was to think of more units in the areas where saying, so far as consultancy is concerned, fertiliser is going to be consumed .• it is entirely left to the company. In the case of Jagdishpur, it was the company AN HON. MEMBER: What about which decided to have Snam Progetti and Tripura? Haldor Topsoe technology for urea. and ammonia, respectively. Government is SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : The hon. not insisting on a particular technology. Member is talking of Tripura. We are It was for them to decide and they have not bringing gas from Tripura; we are decided. bringing gas from Bombay High. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: On behalf MR. CHAIRMAN : He is hoping to lOt of Gulf Consolidated Company for Ser- gas in Tripura also. vices and Industries there was a state- ment made in the Economic Times that it SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: There is w.. al per the desire of the Government plenty of gas in Narsapur in ADdhra of India they opted for Haldor Topsoe P!adeab. lH~ /or 6,l1li" Ah.tt tS. 1085 Dem.tUUl.r for 0"."" (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 MR. CHAIRMAN: That will all be SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Wo have exploited. plenty of rock phosphates in Purulia. (Interruptions) SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Whatever SHRI VEEREN ORA PA TIL : I can rock phosphates are available indigenously , only assure tbe hon. Members that is not suitable for producing phosphatic Government is of the opinion that, here- fertiliser. . . . after, if sas is available in plenty, it is better to go in .for gas-based fertiliser SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : It is plants than units based on fuel oil or available in the district of Purulia in West naphtha or coal or anything else. That is Bengal. our experience. As I said, there is scope in the Seventh Plan. But I am not in a MR. CHAIRMAN: He will use it. Why pOSition to say how many units are going don't you say that you will see 1 to come in the Seventh Plan and where they are going to come. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Sir, it is not based on presumptions. We have dis- Therefore, it is too early for me to add cussed with our officers. We have discussed anything. I can only say that our pro- with our 3dvisers. We have discussed with gramme of improving the production of our experts. Whatever they have said in fertilisers will go on because the demand the matter I have told you. This is the is going up and we have to meet the position with regard to phosphatic fertiliser demand and wherever gas is available, because we do not have good quality rock naturally looking to the economics of an phosphates. We do not have sulphur. these factors, the units will be located We are importing phosphatic fertiliser or th.ere only. rock phosphate and prOdlJCe the fertiliser here. So far as potash is concerned, it is Hon. Members, as I said in the be gin- no exaggeration when I say that potash is niIfg~ were very much concerned about imported hundred per cent. We are not the country Dot attaining self-sufficiency. manufacturing any quantity. How can I H()us~ I would like to take the hon. into say, When thi~ is the state of affairs, that confidence and tell them that we may our country is going to be self-sufficient in become sclf-sufficient in course of ttme so fertilisers ? That is why I say that in tbe far as nitrogen is concerned. But, in the case of nitrogenous fertiliser, we can be.. matter of potash and phosphatic ferti .. come self-sufficient in course of time- Iisers, we cannot dream of becoming self.. not immediately, because it requires a lot sufticient at all .. of investment also but in the case of phos- phatic fertiliser, it is difficult to say. SHitI BASUDEB ACHARIA (&n- kura) : Why Sir ? SHRI R. P. DAS (Krishnagar) You have not said about Haldia ? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: FM all time to come? SHRI VEERENDRA PA TIL : I wanted to expJain to the hon. Members. So far SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Because as their individual points are concerned, for whatever phosphatic fertiliser or the I will take up the individual points after P.O. we are producing here today in the I cover all the points. country, the rbW material is again coming from oUhid~. We have to depcnd upon the imports of raW mL terial. The rock MR. CHAIRMAN: Allow the Minister phosphate has to come from outside. In to continue in his own way. A large num- some units the rock phosphate is imported ber of members have already spoken. and then converted into phosphoric acid and then phosphatic fertiliser or PaOa. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: About Then sulphur is also to come from outside. the MaJida fertiliser factory he has not said We do not have sulpbur. We do Dot have anythina. It is under Hinduatan FertiliMr rock phosphate .. Corporation. De"""'" liAr ..... CHA1T1tA 21."" (8AIC.A) De",..,.. for Grants (OMeNI) 19n-16 (G_IN",I) 1986-86 -SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : So far as Sir, in order to meet the shorta.., or sinJle super-phosphate is concerned, I must phosphatic fertilisers we ar-e thinkin. of say that there is a aood response. Govern- joint ventures also. We already have fina. ment of India also wants to encourage the lised one joint venture whh Sene_I. SSP units. Some units have already come SirniJarly we have received oft"ers for joiat and some units are under implementation. ventures from Moraco, Tunisia, Algeria (Interruptions) I have made it clear that and Togo. Mora co, Tunisia and Al,eria Government of India is for encouraging arc interested in joint ventures. We want sinsle super phosphate unit$. We have come to go in for joint ventures because rock to this conclusion and that is why I thought phosphate and gas are available in p.lenty I must avail this opportunity to give the in those countries and they want to partici- information to the hon. Members. We want pate along with us. So, we want to en- to encourage the SSP units only in the con- courage joint ventures. Negotiations are suming areas where there is no or in- goinl on and we will be able to finalise tbe adequate production. According to the proposals as and when tbey are received. criteria that is going to be adopted for licen- sing more SSP units- Then vlith regard to the price of fertili- ser I want to make it clear that the price (i) the size of the plant to be Jicensed of fertiliser is 'uniform. There is no ques- should be of a standard size with a tion of a farmer paying one price living capacity of 200 tonnc-s per day and 100 very near to the plant and another farmor tonnes per day of sulphuric acid ex- paying some other price living far off from cept in the cac;e of expansion; the fertiliser plant. A farmer whether he is in Cochin or Sikkim will pay the uni- (ii) the applicants should have facility form price because the difference is being for the production of sulphuric met by the subsidy that Government is acid for captive consumption with giving. a capacJty of 100 tonnes per day which would leave a m,lrgin of 20% Hon. Members wanted to know what of the acid for meeting the require- is the policy with regard to indigenisation ments of other consumers in the of plant and machinery. As I said we have area; technology for these new units and we have imported that technology. The condition (iii) prtfl renee should be given to app- is that the technology should be transferred lications for affecting bubstantial to us and that is why we have got engin_r- expansion; ing firms who are associate firms, namely, PDIL, FACT engineering, ElL. etc. There (iv) medium entrepreneurs should be ale some engineering units which are aHO- prefecn.d over MR1 P cases ; and ciated with that and they are goin. to absorb this technology. Although we havo (v) additional capacity should be licen- imported technology yet so Car as manur.. - sed only in regions where there is ture of plant and machinery is concorned I adequate demand for SSP. must tell the House that 70 per cent of the machinery that is required for the unit These are the guidelines for licensing the is being manufactured in our country. additional units. Although we ha ve recei- ved about 75 to 80 applications. yet we We decided on one technology. That is feel the applications should not be taken because if there is only one technology, it into consideration as and when received. will facilitate the local manufacturers to We want fo take into consideration aU the fabricate the plants. If there are different aspects and I Want to assure the hon. technologies then they have to have dift'e .. Members that wherever there is scope and rent establishments. different designs, every- demand and no or inadequate production thing for that purpose. So, we supplied we want to encourage these SSP units in the design, they fabricated the plant and futUN. Some applications we have already machinery and they supplied. In fact, in the case of 'liha), I must say that altboush received. / 261 DeIfUlltlls lor Orllllls APRIL 15, J98' DemtMtll/or 0ratI (General) 1985·86 (Oene,m) 198j-86 (Shri Veerendra Patil) MR. CHAIIlMAN : You don't reply it is loins to ~ost more than Rs. 800 crorcs to that. You may reply in your own way. the foreign exchange component is not This is not the way. more than 29% of the cost of the project. The rest of the amount is being spent in SHRI R. P. DAS : Who is responsible our own country. We are for indigenisation. for the breakdown? The Minister should We are very particular about this indegeni. clarify. sation. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Break- 16.00 lin. down started, as I said. Even after spending nearly Rs. 300 crores the plant There is one Member who wanted to bas not seen tho light of the day! We know about Haldia fertiliser. Again I don't know when it is going to be commis- must say that Haldia fertilizer has got a sioned. Now our officers say that it will chequered history. This is one fertiliser be commissioned by 1st October, 1985. plant where for the first time we tried Let us wait till that time and see what is indiaenous technology. going to happen. That is the position, unfortunately. That is why I said that Haldia project has got a chequered history. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN ( Bad- But, I am not blaming anybody at all. I agara ) : Is that responsible or is there am not at all taking this opportunity to any othet reasons? What about Panipet? blame West Bengal Government or any What about Narnrup? Don't blame our other Government. scientists and engineers. Some hon. Members made certain points SHRI VEERENDRA PAT1L: It is very about the quality of fertilizers. One hon. difficult to argue with an hon. Member who Member said that adulteration is there. is not prepared to hear me fully. J have One hon. Member said tha t some spurious not completed even onc sentence. I do fertilIser is comlDg into the market not say tbat it was only technology which Although there is a joint responsIbility, yet, was responsible. Tbis is the one I must humbly submit this, that so far as unit where we have tried our indigenous the adulteration of fertiliser is concerned, technology, where we have tried diversifi- so far as distribution and suppJy and cation of products and where we have quality of fertiliser is concerned, it is not tried different credits. We received credit the concern of my M JnJstry. It is the from nearly 12 or 13 countries. Only for concern of the Agriculture Ministry. I hope the sake of credit or utilising that credit we that the Demands of the Ministry of placed order with those countries to supply Agrjcultur~ are going to be dlCicussed in machinery, with the result that although the House. At that time hon. Members it was started in J 972 and mechanical will have full opportunity. They can raise completion was over in 1979, when the this point and set a convincing answer from p]ant was commissioned and trial run was the Agriculture Minister, my colleague, aoout to be made, the West Bengal Gove- Sardar Bu ta Singh. rnment's State Electricity Department said that they had no power and that they were Then, Sir, some hon. Members were not in a position to supply any power and under the impression that our fertiliser we could not press them also. And we import is too much, we are spending thought of captive power plant, which also thousands of crores of foreign exchange on bas boen installed. We are trying for the importing fertilizers. I wiJI give you the last 4 or 5 years to see that the Plant goes figures how much we are importing and the into production. But before the plant went amount we spent on Imports. In 1980-81, into commission, breakdown bas already the value of imports was 925.22 craret of started. So, you can imagine the quality rupees, in 1981-82, it was Rs. 716.62 crores, of the machinery; you can imagine the in 1982-83, it was Rs. 273.S3 crores, in quality of the technology .. 1983-84, it was Rs. 365.05 crores and in 1984-85, it has gone up to Rs .. 818.0 crores. SHRl R. P. DAS: Who is responsible? Even then, I do not feel that it is a very Dnnll""'/or GtWtt, CHAITRA 2$, 1901{SAKA) D.lllt111tb III' Grllllt, (ae"",al) 198'-86 (General) 1985·86 bi,b fiaure. As I said, as and when our. SHRIMATI GEETHA MUKHERJEB production increases, naturally to that It is aU dru8sed figures. extent our import will also come down. SHill VEERBNDRA PATIL: I am Now, I come to drugs. quoting the figures which are authoritative and authentic. I am here to quote fiaures SHRI JAIPAL REDDY : Before you based on authentic information. Thore is deal with drugs, please explain about the no question of any drug manufacturin, sas pipeline. company or whether it is multinational company, companies under FERRA or SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL : So far Non-PERRA, whatever it is, making hugo as gas pipeline is concerned, it is not the profits, because 75°10 of the drugs come concern of my Ministry. It is the under price control. The prices are concern of the Petroleum Ministry. You controlled. can put this question to the Minister in charge of petroleum. . I want to explain the procedure also. They cannot go on increasing the prices AN HON. MINISTER He is disturb- according \0 their whims and fancies. It is ing the Minister. not allowed at all. In 1979t the drugs Price Control Order came into force. SHRl S. JAIPAL REDDY : It is the Snamprogetti which is disturbing, not SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN Do Jaipal Reddy. you accept their costing? 16.05 hrs. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : There is no question of accepting their costing. [SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI They may produce anything, but there is in the Chair] an organization called Bureau of Industrial Costs and Prices, BICP, consisting of SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL Madam, experts, and that organisation goes into so far as the drug industry is concerned, • every price. For fixing the price for the I must say that this is Olie industry where first time or for revision of the prices, the growth is very satisfactory and it is they have to approach the BICP, and it not correct to say that the country is not has to make a study and then make producing sufficient quantity of drugs. So recommendations to the Ministry. The far as drugs are concerned, the policy of recommendations of the BICP are studied the Government is to ensure plentiful in the Ministry and then a decision taken availability of drugs at the reasonable in the Ministry. There is no question ~of prices to the consumers and at the any drug manufacturer increasing the same time to ensure reasonable prices or fixing tbe prices unilaterally margin of profits to the produ9crs. That. without getting the approval of the is our policy. Sir, the hon. Members are Government of India. Therefore, 75 per under the impression that the drug prices cent of the drugs, particularly the drugs are soaring and multinationals are making which are life saving, the drugs which are huge profits. It is not so because if you essential drugs, are price controlled and look into the wholesale price index of nobody can increase the prices. In the other commodities, taking 1970-71 as base formula itself, it is laid down that the year and 100 as the index figur.e, then percentage of profit that they can claim is prices of other commodities in ]980-81 rose not more than 8-13 per cent. to 257.3 whereas the drug and medicine prices were only 137.8. ]n 1984 .. 85, the I was mentioning about the import and wholesale price index for other commodi- export of drugs, that will give an indication ties was 341.7 whereas price of drugs and how the industry is developing. We are medicine was only 191.7. If you compare importing as also ("xporting; we are the price index of drugs and medicines importing mostly bulk drugs and exporting with the price index of other mostly formulations. So far as the bulk comJDOdities ..•• dru8 import is concerned, in 1980-81, we 271 De..... 'or Gr4Ittl APIlL 1$. 1985 Bema" 1M a,.",. 212 (lhll~'III) 1985-86 (GeMN.Il) 1985-46 [Sbri Veerendra Patill companies bave received 732 iDdu.$t_l imported druBs worth Rs. 112.81 crores approvals. India bas a rilorous a.ystom and in 1983-84 worth Rs. 163.34 crores. As for introducing new drup. When eveD reaards export, in 1980-81, we exported new drugs are approved in advanced formulations with Rs. 85.50 crores and in countries like USA and others" India 1983-84 worth lls. 150.89 crores as against insists on independent clinical trials and Rs. 85.SO earlier. Almost there is a lap tests for the safety and efficacy of a new of only 5-7 per cent between what we are drug. FERA companies are allowed importinl and what we are exporting. formulations of their own and to produce This is because We have got gooQ export drugs of high technology, not taking bulk market. drugs from others and produciDI formula- tions. That is not allowed. Supply of SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You are non-associated formulations is SO per cent exportinB formulations produced by the as against 30 to 40 per cent in the case of multinationals. Indian companies and public sector. FER.A companies arc not eligible for fresh loan SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : In the licences. So these are the restrictions for case of bulk drugs, nearly 350 bulk drugs FERA companies and I must inform the thore are in the country, and out of that 220 hon. Members that very few FERA or 225 ... 1 have got the figures with me •• we compani( s are left in the country. are manufacturing indigenou~)y. Only a few druBs, either the FERA companies are SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE manufacturing or we are importing. We They are in the equity. are not in a position to manufacture these bulk drugs, which are of high technology, SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Most of life saving and essential drugs. the FERA companies, according to our guidelines and according to our directives, SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE have diluted their equity. Now, they are I raised !leVerd! poilJts with regard to no more FERA companie~. They are costing. You have not answered many Indian companies. Only a few FERA of them. companil s are remajning and in regard to those few FERA compunies also, these are SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : The hon. the restrictions, that have been imposed. Member, Shrimati Geeta Mukhcrj(e Was very sore and bitter about FERA SHRI S. JAJPAL REDDY: Is it true companies. Our policy about FERA that multi·nationals arc mainly engaged in companies is to aJlow them only in areas the production of formulations in the wbere high h:chnology is required and the country which do not requIre high techno .. bulk drugs are produced from basic stage. logy as thJngs stand tod.1Y ? But there are units which were already there before our order came into existence. SHRI VEbRENDRA PATIL : I have I cannot ask them to go away~ I have no a1ready explained the position. I have power. With regard to our policy about already made it clear with regard to FERA FERA companies from 1979, I have told companies, how and in what way we want you how we are not encouraging them on to encourage the F ERA companies and the one hand and how we are looking at in what areas. them. So far as FERA companies are concerned, our attitude is that only core Now, the point that has been made by industries of national importance, Appen- Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee is that the dix I arc open to FERA companies. Government is reviewing the drug policy , and according to her, the drug policy is The secend condition is that the process being reviewed only to help the multi- must involve high techno! ogy in the national or big business hou~es which are production from basic stage. During the engaged in the manufacture of drugs. It period 1978 to 1984, only 45 industria) is not so. It is true that drug policy is approvals were granted to FERA compa- under review. My predecessor, I think, nies, While the Indian ofjanised se~tor Shri Sathe had appointed a Development CHArPJ:A 21. "(SAKA) . ~pD'.nls (Ot_Ml) 1981 .. 86 c.u8d1 to IQ 4l\to the policy and as I decision. So far, Government hac not· said, th. policy is to see that dru,s aro taken any final decision. Therefol'~. I am made available in pleuty, quality should not in a position to say a.lythina with be 1000 and price also should be reaona- regard to the points that were raised by bkD and at the same time the manufacturer Mrs. Geeta Mukherjee, about mark-up also should aet a reasonable profit. So, and other things. That is under consi .. in the Development Council, three deration, and I hope to finalize it and take Workins Groups were appointed, Working a decision on the report as early as Group on Industrial Approval, Working possible. I shall be very happy if all the Group on Pricing Policy and Procedure manuracturersu nitedly come to an agree- and . Working Group on Industrial ment and come to us with unauimous DeveloplMnt. These Working Groups proposals. llnterruptions). have submitted their report and to consi- der their report, a Steering Committee SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE was appointed. The Steering Committee Will it ever happen? They want very high considered the report and the report went mark-up. (Interruptions) befoTe the main development council, viz. National Drugs and Pharmaceutical SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : They Development Council and that Council may ask even for the Moon. We are not has considered the report. I must again here to give whatever they ask for. We say that unfortunately there is no un- have got our oWn mechanism, and machi- animity so far as the recommendations nery to find things out. After all, the are concerned. There may be one or two interests of the consumers and of those pcints on which there is unanimity. who Use the drugs are uppermost in the mind of the Government; not that we are Madam, again if I take the House into going to yield to those manufacturers if •confidence, so far as drug industry is they come unitedly with their proposals. concerned. several lobbies are working. But I say that because of divergent views. These lobbies are fuocting and operating it is better that they come together, and directly opposite to each other. That is help the Governm~nt in coming to a the difficulty now. Even in the report decision, and in formulating a decision. also, there is no unanimity. There may be unanimity with regard to mark up and PROF. N. O. RANGA : There is also other things or with regard to the number a lobby there. of drugs that are to be price-controlled. That is a different matter. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: Those who take-- the medicines should have But my predecessor, after getting this the biggest lobby. report, after it Was considered by the National Drugs and Pharmaceuticals SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Que Development Council, made a commit- point which several Members spoke about ment to the Consultative Committee that was the poor performance of IDPL and the report would be placed before the other drug industries. I admit that we have Consultative Committee of the Ministry of IDPL, HAL and also 3 or 4 other drug Chemicals and Fertilizers and after as- manufacturing industries from West Bengal. certaining the views of the members of Except Smith Stani')treet which has shown the Consultative Committee, Government some profit or surplus recently, aJl others would take a final decision. We are at are incurring losses. I am not denying that stage now. We have not yet placed this fact. When I say this, I am not hold· this report before the Consultative jng any brief for these units, particularly Committee. Now the Consultative for IDPL, because the losses are very heavy Committee has been con stituted. I will in IDPL. take tbe earli~st opportunity to place this report before the Consultative Committee, Some Members made observations with . where the Members will have an ample regard to IDPL, and one Member, I think opportunity to discuss this. After hearing Mr. Jaipal Reddy, asked: why is it that tbeir views, GovernDlOnt will take a final although IDPL is incurring heavy IOlses, D~lfIflII(/, 275 , lot Orll/ltJ APRtI. ts, 1985 D'In",,4I (General) 1985-86 (Gene,./)/0""''''' 198'-116 [Shri Vetrendra Patil) Even When they take medicines, they do it has appointed indenting agents? I can not make the payment. I will atve you only tell the hon. House, as I said earlier, the fiprc. This is the state of affairs. So. that I am not holding any brief. I want for what reasons they are preferiol local to make it vt.ry clear that the Govern- units, it is for you to draw your own info- ment is not very happy about the losses renee. I do not want to go into that. which these orgJnizations arc incurring. So, I will personally look into this problem. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I referred After the session is overt I will take the to the letter written by the Private Secre- earliest opportunity to visit IDPL and HAL, tary of the former Minister to the IDPL and see why the losses are there, how the appointing agents for Delhi, MP and' U.P. losses can be minimized and how these units can become surplus units and generate SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I have some surplus? already said I am going to look into this matter. If I am convinced I will see that SHRI S JAIPAL REDDY: Why are this practice is discontinued. What morc these indenting agents there? can I do for it ? I have got an open mind. Now, he has brought it to my notice. If SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL ; So far as there is no valid reason for continuing this indenting agents are cor.cerned, I will cer- system, I will see that this system is dis- tainly look into it. I agree with the hon. pensed w jth as early as possible. That is Member that most of these drugs are being why I want to go into it. I do not want supplied to institutions Trade sales, so to go into several charges that were made far as the~e organlzattollS are conc(rned, are by several members. because it is very diffi- the minimum. In the cas! of IDPL, the cult to say off-hand. I can only say that trade sales are not even 1.9~~ of the total I will give greatest credence to the allega-- sales. A II these sales are going only to tions made by the hon. members. That institutions, i.e. hospital, belonging to the is why I said I do not hold any brief of State Governments and Central Govern- these public sector undertakings. There ment. I agree with t he question, viz. may be some scandal gOing on iu some when the supply is to Government organi- quarters or the other. Jf the hon. member 5 zations, why do you want an andentmg bring any instance to my nollce, certainly agent? I wIll see that thts agency system we will tale action; if necessary, we will is discontinued. I want to give details as enquire into this matter and whoever is to why these units are incurring losses. responsible we sha)) see that he should be punished. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS (BHIL- WARA): What about tnl!lma,ageme \t in I was saying why these public sector IDPL? units are incurring losses. It is only be- cause public sector units, IDPL, HAL and SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I will other units, they are manufacturing only come to that point. I wanted to tell Mr. life saving drugs which come under catc.. JaipaJ Reddy as to why they felt the nece- gory 1 and 2; they arc essential druBs ; ssity for appointing these indenting agents. they are life saving drugs where the mark The hon. Member will be 8uprised to up is only 40 per cent and SS per cent; know that although IDPL is our own public :his mark up is not the margin of profit; sector unit, and although more than once it includes commission, transportation char- Government of India, and myself after les, publicity ; everything ; and then they taking charge of this Ministry. have written return about 8 to 30 per cent also. But, personal letters to the Chief Minister, there in the case of category 1 and category B are several State Governments which still drugs, the mark up is very limited and prefer their local units. They still prefer these drug industries are manufacturin~ es- . their small scale units, and they prefer to sential drugs and these units came in to tbe take whatever medicines they require, fit Id of drugs when the private parties from those units, than to take them from wU'( reh':cl{ nt to come forward; neW pri. IDPL. vate parties havo come forward; 10 maD)' ~ __ ltJIt 6twItU CHAIft.A: 25, .911 (8AtCA) Dematl. ,.. Orantl 271 (ChwMl) 198$-86 (General) 1985-86 .,\lltioatjonals have eome forward; to many unit", they ask me sometimes. That is small scale iudustries also have come for .. the attitude of the State Governments, un... ward for formulation and all that. Now fortunately. And then take technology. tbe position is dift'erent ; but tho position As I said, it has become outmoded tech· tbat was obtaining at the time of eettinl nology and we have to go in search of up of IDPL, HAL for penicillin and o*et new technology. As I said, the percentage cuential drusa, at tbat time, the private of their sales is negligible, their capacity sector Was not c»mina forward and the utilisation is low. We are not utilising tecOOololY Was not available in the coun- IDPL and other units to the full capacity. try; whatever technology was available, I can quote one incident which came to it was taken and ultimately tbe technology my notice. There is 100 per cent power became obsolute and we had to go in cut in Hardwar, where one of the units for some other technololY; and I must of rDPL is there. We do not know how teU the House th'lt so far as the drug indu- to utilise the capacity with one hundred stry is concerned, the technology is chang- per cent power cut. We have to depend ina so fast because the drug which is there on the State Electricity Board. I wrote in the market today, you will find a new to the State Chief Minister, "For God's drug for the same ailment, for the same sake, please sp.ue us". We cannot have disease in another six month~. So, natur- captive power plants. aJly, when the drug is changing. the demand is also not tbere; and the ailing AN HON. MEMBER : All the pubtic patient or the consumer, he wants to go sector units are suffering from those con- in for better drugs. Why should he prefer straints. the druss simply because they are being manufactured or produced by the public SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI sector? So, that is one reason; and then we (Howrah) : You should have captive are re lying more on institutional sales. I power plant. said, how tbese State Governments are not making the payment. I can quote the latest SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: That is why figures that I have. IDPL have to get we are thinking of having captive power from different institutions Rs. 13.72 crores. plants. J have alreadY told the House State Governments take medicines; they that for fertiliser projects we have m1de do not make payment. We write to them; it a policy to have captive powt!r pla,ts. they do not bother about it. On Rs. 13.72 Similarly in this situation we are thinking crores, I want the hone members to work of captive power for IDPL also. If the out what is the interest. They do not pay captive power is there, then the cost of interest also. I shall be happy and grate- production will be higher. Then it will ful if they make prompt payment. I do reflect on the cost of production of .JDPL not want them to pay interest on the pay- also. Or else, we will have to suffer ment. But the interest alone comes to losses or increase the prices of drugs. This Rs. 2.45 crores ever year. Not only that, is the vicious circle due to which the units for HAL. what is the outstanding '1 It is are incurring losses. Rs. J 1.20 crores. They are not getting it at all. What is that they can do '1 Similarly, about raw materials also, the position is the same. In Muzaffarpur They have to sue the State Government there is one unit of IDPL. There is no or what ? They bring it to my notice ~nd alcohol there. The State Government I write to the State Governments; I write could not help us. What can the unit to the Chief Ministers. On the one side. there do? There are several other units; I have to persuade them to use or purchase I think Hyderabad unit also is suffering our medicines, and when they purchase due to non-availability of alcohol. the medicines they do not make the pay- ment; And, if we insist then they say, These are the constraints because of that they would not purchase the medicilleF. which the public sector units are incurring It is Dot a question of cash paynlent. losses and I we will certainly go into this "Why should I '0 to IDPL or any other mattOl'. We are goin, into the difficulties /N",.,-/or trOMnt. D..... /IIJ« .... (Gen.NlI) 1115-86 (a..t) lMI46 (Shri Yeer~ndra Patil) because.,it appeaH to me, titat lUft'loieat and we win find out how best we can mOlle¥ it there. NaturaUy theN i. MOre remedy this situation. lad mot. demaad. I think, the State Govemments teel that they will let moPe revenue if they supply alcohol for petah-Ie Lastly I come to chemicals. I do not purposes. Jt is a fact that ICaroataka think that it is neCt:ssal y for me to say w~ich is a marlin ally surplus State. au,: much on <.hcmicels. We are tryins to plied alcohol to the fteighbouring States. produce more chemicals. I agree with the The poJi(y is that whenever a -surplus hon. Members that whatever we have to State want. to supply alcohol to the establish factories for the production of neilhbourinl State, it has to do it with the chemica Is, it should be away from the approval of the Central Oovernment, urban areas because of the bitter experi- because we are the coordinating authority. ence of Bhopal tragedy. If a particular State is surplus, it must tell us how much quantity il surplus so SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: that we can allot to the other noighbours. What about HaJdia Petro-chemical fac- I brought this fact to their notice. I said tOIY ? that the first priority, so far as alcohol requirement is concerned, should be for SHRI VEERE:.NDRA PATIL: 1 am not industrial purposes. If there is anything concerned with it. When the Demands left, then they can distribute or allocate it for Grants of that Ministry come up, you for potable purposes. Now, the can .. ask that Minister. sumption for potable purposes is going up. The limit seems to be the sky. Naturally SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: We a 10t of revenue is there. The production will ; but we ask for your support. of alcohol for the current year, according to our esumation, is 6000 lakh litres in SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: 1 cannot the entire country. I do not know say anything. whether this assessment also is on the high Side. If we take into consideration the demand, it comes to nearly 8600 lakh With regard to soda ash, I thmk our litres. 80, there is a deficit of 2600 lakh feeling is that we are producing sufficient Iitres. How to meet this gap? That is quantity of soda ash. There ure several why, we had a detailed discussion. We users who fed that the production is not appointed a sub-committee and in that sufficient and that is why a part of it is sub-committee we had taken a decision under the OGL. I shall look into it. that the availability of potable alcohol should be pegged to the level of 1982-83 With regard to alcohol, and molasses I consumption and industrial al~ohol should think Shri Chandl ashekharappa wanted'to be made available taking in to considera- know about that. With regard to alcohol tion the consumption of the last industrial and molasses, I must say that we are short alcohol year plus 10 per cent. This of molasses, even fOl our necessity and in additional alcohol should go from surplus our distilleries we With tnese words, I conclude. MR. CHAIRMAN: I would request the hone Minister to make a note of all the SHRI SAIFUDMN CHOWDHURY clarifications and reply at the end. C:Katwa): About industrial alcohol, how you are going to e~ferce e litable distri- SHRI AMAL DATTA: I request you t'ution? Are you thinking ef declaring not to stand in the way of the Minister. industrial alcohol as an article of national If the Minister has already yielded ... j·mportance as you have done in the case of coal and iron and steel. Our bitter (Interruptions) experience is that a few years ago the Wr_t Bengal industries were suffering for MR. CHAIRMA N : I have already want of industrial alcohol. They wrote requested hiln to make a note of all the to the Maharashtra Government for in- clarifications and reply at the end. You dustrial alcohol. They wrote to your want reply. he wi)] reply .... Ministry and got permission to obtain alcohol from Maharasbtra. (llllerrllptions) SHRI K.P. UNNJKRISHNAN : Madam, But then the Government of Maha- I was listening very a ttentively and care- rashtra bluntly denied the alcohol to them fuJJy to the reply of the Minister with and because of that the industry suffered regard to fertilizer projects. He said that there. So, how are you going to remove the Indian public sector organisations are this precarious situation? absorbing and assimilating progressively the technology provided by Snam Pro- Mr. CHAIRMAN: Please be brief because getti and Ha1dor Topsoe with regard to you have already replied I think. ammonia pr('cess. I do not know whether there is anything for them to SHRI VEERENDRA PA TIL: I make assimilatt' because PDIL itself is fully it clear that so far as distribution or allot- conversant with this process. He also ment of alcohol is concerned, Governmellt said that 70 per cent of the equipment of India is only a coordinator. We make supply to the plants with this technololY. allotrnent orders. It is true that the West is indigenous. Here I am going to pin- Bengal is not in a position to produce suffi- point something and ask the Minister, cient alcohol becausc tbey do not have many firstly, whether Haldor Topse has got any distilleries. Alcohol is mucD in shortage other order in any other country after in West Bengal. We are asking the sur- the Government of India gave them the plus States to make available whatever orders in 1980, either for catalyst or for quantity is ,enuinely reQ.uired by West any transfer of technology agreement. Benlal Government. Sometimes they are Secondly, he talks about indigenisation. reluctant to carry out the orders. We The equipment which we ourselves had will use all our good offices and see tbat fabricated and supplied to Durgapur relief is given to them. plant. as early as in 1968, is being import- ed and sold to us by Haldor Topsoe. I SHRI AMAL DATTA : In spite of the w ill give you the name a]so. One name Central ODvernment having made the is ammonia chillar. Will you scrutinise allotment according to their norms and their list? This is what you are not doina. practices and in spite of the fact that When I complain here, you talk about Maharashtra was to deliver a certain various things. I am making a . specific quantity of alcohol to West Ben,al, the point. Will you scrutinise the list of im- Antulay Government refused to carry out ports of Snamprogetti and Haldor Topsoe. the order and as a result tbe Alkali That is how we arc prevented from Chemicals, empJoyins 4,000 people, had manufacturing and going ahead with this 19 close down for six montha. Therefore., on a self-reliant basis. and they are bemtmds lor Ortlllla iH~ /tJr Gtvnttl (Gtural) 1985·86 fOe_ral) 1985-86 [Sbri K.P. Unnikrishnanl MR. CHAIRMAN : Let tho Minister allowed to import. So, will you tell me say tbat be had already replied. . whether it is a fact? Secondl-yand that is a very serious thing also-about the SHRI T.V. CHANDRASHEKHARAPPA: PDtL catalyst which we have supplied and I want to know one thing from the hon. which is working everywhere .. Minister. The Chief Minister of Karnataka requested the Government of India on (Interruption) 14th February for allotment of one lakh metric tonnes of molasses from Maha- MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Unnikrishnan, rashtra and on the same day. i e., on 14th you have started speaking. Please be February you wrote a letter to the Chief brief. Minister of Karnataka stating that there are reports that alcohol is goin. from SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: No, Karnataka to units in Tamil Nadu and I am asking questions. 1 know, Madam, Andhra Pradesh unauthorisedly. In view you have plenty of patience. I know you of the fact that on the one hand they are are renowned for your patience. Bear pleading shortage of alcohol and on the with me also for a minute or two. other hand they are selling alcohol to Kerala, have you taken the permission of the (Interruptions) Government of India regarding this sale of alcohol or did the Kerala Government SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN : So, ask permission from the Central Govern- these are the things. If you don't want ment to make use of that unutilised me to ask .. alcohol '1 MR. CHAIRMAN: Please be brief. [Translation] SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN : I will SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VY AS (Bhil- keep on raising one after another later on. wara) : The hon. Mmister has stated that If you want me to sit down, I will sit only a small quantity of rock phosphate down now. is available but Rajasthan is very rich in the matter of rock phosphate. Pyrites are MR. CHAIRMAN: Please be brief. available in large quantity at Saladipur. I would like to know whether a super- SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN ; There- phosphate factory can be set up at fore, the very PDIL catalyst-my com- Saladipur. plaint is, for two years you huve sat on the report, on the expansion report-the I would also like to know something dem~nd of PDIL. And then Haldor Topsoe about pesticides. Today, spurious pesticides comes with the same obsolete technology. are available in large quantity in the How long are we going to continue? The country due to Which the farmers are facinl answer that was given by you the other great difficulty and we are also suffering a day was that they have given surplus man- Jot. What action is being taken by Govern- power. What concerned surplus manpower ment against those who produce spurious when you threw out the Sindhri plant? pesticides ? 1s that an answer? Will you please enlighten me on this? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS MUNSI : MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY I have one question. The Minister has AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULAM NABI just replied in his reply in regard to tho AZ'AD) : Well, aU these things Were dis- alcohol problem. Is the Minister aware cussed already. Nobody is present now, that whenever the Government lives a they are all taking coffee or tea. All these licence for any I pharmaceutical unit, it is things were mentioned by the hone Mem- duty bound to ensure raw materia) also bers, many of these i4J8UeS were raised abe keep under control the molaaes Which already, for which he has already replied. States manufacture aDd out of which bemllttti.lor Qr'" bemalllislor~.. " .. ts (GenlNll) 1985-86 (General) 1985.. 86 akobol comes? Will the Minister consider ments to honour the commitment and the it as a matter of national policy for the allotment orders issued from the Ministry. distribution of alcohol to all the States And supp('sing l.\cn after aUotting the which needed for the manufacture of alcohol, if alJotmenl Older IS not h('noured, drup? The Minister says that he visited as I said just now, We have made it easy to the IDPL and HAL. Will the Minister import indllstrial alcohol duty free and if also visit Bengal Immunity to see the West Bengal Government feels that even expansion programme at Calcutta? '- fter aBotment order, they arc finding it difficult to get the nl<.ohol in sufficient ~HRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : The Minis- quantity, they can bring to my notice their ter said the Government had taken a policy real requirement To that extent, I will decision to adopt the technolofY of Haldor see that th,'y can impol t industrial alcohol Topsoe in respect of ammonia and Snam from whatever country they Welnt without Proj ectii in respect of urea. I would like paying any duty. (I"terruptions) to know as to when the Government took the decision, what was the technical report Shri K. P. Unnikrishnan wJnted to know on the face of which this decision was before Haldor Tor~oe was selected for taken. supply of technology for ammonia, did thty have any OJ der from any other SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADA V (Alwar) foreign countries (Interruptions) After or He has already replied. What is the use before, I do not know. How can we of allowing him to speak again. know? ]f the hon. Member is interested (Interruptions), I wilt certainly try to SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The collect this information and pass on that Minister is very competent to defend information. himself, he is capable of defending himself. Similarly, with regard to PDIL catalyst (Interruptions) . also, I will collect the information and pass on. Recently the hon. Member Secondly, will the hon. Ministt.r tell the wanted to know ~omething (Interrupll'ons) House as to why IDPL continues to have I am very careful because without knowing an officiating Chairman and why it does the facts ttHare is no point in saying any- not have a full-time Chairman and how do thing off-hand but [ certainly want to you expect the IDPL to function to its asxure the hen. Members that I am not full capacity? here to suppress any Iflformation or to keep back infcrmation. I am here to SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Hon. furnish all the information that is available Member Shri Arnal Datta wanted to know with us, I will certainly write to the hon. what is it that Government is going to do Member. When the allotment order of their own is not honoured by the State Governments. Shri T. V. Chandrashekharal'pa wanted I made it very dear that so far as Govern- to know whether the State Government ment of India is concerned, in the matter or the Chief Minister of Karnataka had of allotment of alcohol and molasses, it is written a Jetter to me asking for allotment only a coordinating authority. We make of one lakh m. t. of molasses. Yes, he allotments and We expect that State had written to me and I asked in the Governments. after consulting then how recent Mol1asses Control Board Meeting, much is surplus and aU that, then only we the Excise Minister of Maharashtra whe- make the allotment and we expect the ther he wi)) be in a position to give any State Government will honour that moJlasses. He showed some inclination. commitment. It is true that some such He did not commit. After that, I wrote unpleasant cases were brought to our to Maharashtra Government to make notice. Although the allotment order was available at least 50,000 m. t. molasses. I there, the State Government did not do not know after that what has happened. honolJr that allotment. That is wby I said I had informed the Chief Minister also that we will try our best to ule our 100d about the request that I have made to oftic. aod provail ~pon ·t~e ,State Govern- Maharaahtra Government. He must havo 281 DslftQ.d./or Grants bt!",.,J, for ('l,.,. (General) 198'-86 (Gen,,.I) 1'81-11 ~ri Veerendta Padl] of Kello.. was als" 6clected for amalODia. received some response after J sent a There arc two technologies and it is for Jetter to him. the party to select either of them. About the date of decision, I do not have tbe SHRI T.V. CHANDRASHEKHARAPPA: datets with me. This decision, I think, y..'lu't about sale of spirit to Kerala ? was taken some time in 1980-81. 16.56 hn. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: So far as 't(~ Ie of spirit to Kerala and to other [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in lite Chair] ndghbouring States concerned, I have already replied and I have said that One hon. Member wanted to know whatever sale any State Government wants about the full time Chairman of IDPL. It to make to any neighbouring State outside is true that the post is vacant. We are the State, they must always bring it to the trying to put one suitable person in charge notice of the Central Government and because, as I said, the IDPL unit is facing take the approval of the Central Govern- too many challenges and problems and we ment before supplying it to the neighbour- want to havr a competent person to head ing States. ) have already made it clear. that organization. Therefore, there has I do not think it is net:essary for me to been some delay. We will see that the ]lepeat it again. decision is expedited and taken as early as Hon. member Shri Girdhari Lal Vyas possible. wanted toO that there is sufficient rock phosphate available in his State. That MR. DEPUTY SPEA KER: I shall now rock phosphate, I think, can be used for put all the Cut Motions moved to the single super phosphate units and I have Demands for Grants relating to the already said that we are here to encourage Ministry of Fertilizers and Chemicals to more SSP units. If there is sbortage or vote together unless any hon. Member SSP in that State and if parties come for- desires that any of his Cut Motions be put ward to set up Plants then, we will separateJy ... 1 now put all the Cut Motions certainly consider whenever such a propo- together to the vote of the House. sal is received. All the Cut Motions were put and negatived. Hon. Member Shri Vyas wanted to know about spurious pesticides coming to the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I shall now market. I must again say that it is for put the Demands for Grants to the vote the Agriculture Ministry to look into this of the House. problem, and certainly they will look into the problem if there are any spurious The question is pesticides coming to the market. "That the respective sums not exceed- SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VY AS : What ing the amounts on Revenue Account about pyrites 7 and Capital Account shown in the Fourth column of the Order Paper SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Pyrites be granted to the President out or whatever it is, it cannot be used for of the Consolidated Fund of India producing di-ammonium phosphate. At to complete the sums necessary to the most it can be used for SSP, single defray the charges that will come in super-phosphate. It cannot be used for course of payment during the year end· producing di-ammonium phosphate. I have ing 31st day of March. t986, in respect made it very clear. If SSP units are Boine of the heads of Demands entered in to come, they will certainly make use the second column thereof against . .of it. Hon. Member Shri Jaipal Reddy wanted Demand No.9 to k.now when the decision in respect of •Irc]atiaa to the 'Ministry of Cho.mieal. Haldor Topsoe for ammonia technology was and Fertilisers'." taken. It was not only Haldor Topsoe te.cb- DololY which was selected; the technololY Tit, Motlo,. W4I ado" •. Demands/o, Grlllltl CHA ITRA 2S. 19m (SAKA) IJemtllfillf lor "'ants (General) 198'-86 (Genertd) 1985-86 Demands lor Grants, 1985-86 in respect 0/ the Ministry 0/ Chemicals and Fertilizers "oled by Lok Sabha. No. (If Nrme of Demand Amount of Demand for Grant Amount of Demand Demand on account voted by the House for Grant voted by th~ on 25th March, 1985 House 2 3 4 Ministry of Chemicals and Revenue Capital Revenue Capital Fertilizers Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. 9. Ministry of Chemica1s and 2,06,31,51,000 27,27,83,000 10,3S,04,22,000 2,58,24,17,000 Fertilizers 17.58 brl. finds any discrepancy in the list, he may kindly bring it to the notice of the officer Ministry of Ilealtlt and Family Welfare at the Table without delay. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House Motion moved: will now tdkc up discussion and voting Qn Demands· Nos. 43 to 45 re1ating to the "That the respective sums not exceeding Ministry of Health and Family Welfare for the amounts on Revenue Account and which three hours have been allotted. Capital Account shown in the Fourth column of the Order Paper be granted Hon. Members present in the House to the President out of the Consolida- whose Cut Motions to the Demands for ted Fund of India to complete the Grants have been circulated may, if they sums necessary to defray the charges desire to move their Cut Motions, send that will come in course of payment slips to the Table within 15 minutes indi- during the year ending ~lst day of cating the serial numbers of the Cut March, 1986, in respect of the heads Motions they would like to move. of Demands entered in the second A list showing the serial numbers of the column thereof against Demands Nos. Cut Motions moved will be put up on the 43 to 45 relating to the Ministry of Notice Board shortly. In case any Member Health and Family Welfare." Demands for Grants 1985.. 86 in respect of the Ministry of Health and Family Wei/are Submitted to the Vote of Hohrse No. of Name of Demend Amount of Demand for Grant Amount of Demand for Demand on account voted by the House Grant submitted to the on 25th March 1985 vote of the House 1 2 3 4 Ministry of Hcalt and Revenue Capital Revenue Capital Family Welfare Rs. Rs. Rs. Ra. 43. Ministry of Health and Family Welfare 33,31,000 1,66,S8,000 44. Medical and Public Health 52,67,88,000 17,90,53,000 2,63,39,41.000 89,'2,70.000 4S. Family Welfare 88,94,l3,OOO 1,86,33,000 4,44,7 J ,6S,OOO 9,31,67,000 • Moved with the recommendation of the PreaidcQt, ~ D,,,,Il1I6/o, Grants APRIL 15. 198$ Demontls tor Oral. 2ft (Gtne'(li) 1985-86 (General) 1985--86 17.8. attention to this provisi()D of drinkina water to our villages. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI (Warrangal) : Sir, the Government wants to provide Then what is the budget allocation for primary health c(n~res at the door-step ()f the control of these endemic and water- the people. but unfortunately even after borne diseases? Because of the lack of t11irty-scven years since we got indepen- adequate facilities for the disposal of dence, people are not getting the care sanitary wastes the incidence of communi- even from a reasonable distance from cable diseclses and malnutrition is very their door. high and acute rcspirary infections conti- nue to be among the leading causes of In spite of significant cxp,l)l'\ion of sickness and death in rum] population and infrastructure for rural health, health care urban slums. Malaria. Tuberculosis, attendance is received by not more than 15 leprosy and infective hepatitis are impor.. to 20 per cent of the population. If this tdnt public health problem\) which account is the pace, how can we attain the goal of for a high morbidity. 'health for all by the year 200 t ? The main problems We are facing are: Where hea1th ccntf(.S are in operation, lack of motivated skilkd staff or bck of 1. J mproper utilisation of existi og essential drugs, does not often inspire suffi- health facilities. cient confidence amongst rural population. That is why in rural areas the quacks are 2. Lack of properly tr.:lincd and moti- flourishing endangering the lives of our vated health workers. rural people. So I request the hon. M inis- ter to jmprove the medical facilities and 3. Net shortage of health resources. provide proper skilled and motivated staff in the health centres and we must a]so So I feel these problems must be solved impart health education to our people espe- by implementing : ciaUy in rural areas and make the people 1. Community participation. health conscious. 2. Mechanisms for involving health and Measures for control of environmental health-related development sector. pollution are still in the early stages of development in general and not enough 3. Higher allocation and effective attention has been given to the promotion utilisation of the national budget of food hygiene practices and health edu- for health development is required. cation for households. So people should be educated in these fields through health 4. Equitable distribution of resources education and through the multi-purpose in primary health care among the workers and health guides. population is required. Then, Sir, lack of safe drinking water The high degree of centralisation in supplies and iDadequate facilities for the hralth udminiblration tends to inhibit local disposal of sanitary waste result in the high initiatives and aggravates the ueglcc t of incidence of diarrhoea, intestinal par~~sl (cs pLflpheral institutions. Owing to the and skin diseases and nearly 40,000 adverse economic conditIOns, the govern- bec:ausl.· children die every year of infec- ment is not able to provide substantial tion and diarrhoea. Primary health care increase in the Health budget which has measures are supplemented by water supply II d to an effective declining in the per programmes. But in our ,"ountry tl:ere lupita aJIocation to health in real terms. are 190;000 problem villages whkh have D We should have the inclusion of "That the Demand under the Head 'primary health care' as an integral com.. Medical and Public Health be reduced by ponent in the health-care system. Definite Rs. 100." responsibility should be fixed for effective implementation at alJ levels. [Need to start a tr,lining centre for medical multipurpose workers (both Now, I conclude with the opinion that male and female) at Birpara in Jalpai- the attainment of "Health-for-all by the gun dJ~trict of West Bengal] (6) year 2000 AD" calls for a sustamed and stroDg commitment on the part of the "That the Demand under the Head Government itself. Medical and PublIc Health be reduced by Rs. 100." SHRI PlY US TIRAKY (Alipurduar): I bel to move : [Need to ensure cleanllOe~s and humane treatment of patients in Government "That the Demand under the Head hospita Is espeCIally in the district of Medical and Public Health be reduced by Jalpaiguf1, North Bengal.] (7) Ra. 100." "1 hat the Demand under the Head [Need for immediate steps to check Meuical and Public Health be reduced by spread of malaria in North Benga1.] (I) Rs. 100." "That the Demand under the Head [Need to provide fumh for a mobile van Medical and Public Health be reduced by for forest vlJlagc~ of Buxa range in Rs. 100." North nengal ] (8) [Need to provide funds for electrifica- "That the Demand under the Head tion of primary health centres especially Medical and Public Health be reduced by those in the districts of Jalpaiguri, Rs. 100." Coach Behar, West Dinaypur and Darjeeling.) (2) [Need to educate the rural masses about sanitation and hygienee through films "That the Demand under the Head and other media of Publicity to prevent Medical and Public Health be reduced by diseases.] (9) Rs.l00." "That the Demand under the Head (Need to ensure adequate supply of Medical and public Health be reduced by drup inluding life saving drugs in Rs. 100." Government hospitals.] (3) [Need to ensure adequate supply of "That the Demand under the Head vaccine for D.P.T., Polio BCG, DT, Medical and Public Health be reduced by Typhoid and TT for children and preg- Ils. 100." nant women in North Bensal.) (10) D.... ,., O.-H CHAITIlA 28, D07 (5AKA) D.1JMII6 /tw 04'l11li1 (0.".,) 1~6 (G~,~) 1985·86 "That the Demand UDder the Head Sir, our villages are coltatantIy undDr MedicaJ and Public Health be reduced by the threat of such diseases as Malaria. Rs. 100." Kala-azar, Hepititis, Diarroboa, Blindness, Measles, Filaria and many more tropical (Need to cheek growth of private nursing diseases and parasitical attacks wbk:h homes in urban and semi .. urban areas affect our people's capacity to work and er.pecially in North Bengal districts.] (11) which render them incapable to work for Jong periods, sometimes, even for their "That the Demand undor the Hcad whole lives. Even doctors can do very Medical and Public Health be reduced by little in the case of many of these diseases, RI. 100:' once any of these diseases strike a person. For instance, tape-worms and guinea.worms [Need to set up a SO bed homoeopathic are some of the worst parasites affectina . hospital in the homoeopathic college at our peopJe and it is mainly due to poor Alipur Duar.] (12) sanitation. You will all agree that insani- tary conditions are prevailing particularly "That the Demand under the Head in our slums and rural areas as weJl as in Medical and Public Health be reduced by our congested and ill-planned urban areas. Rs. 100." While we need more and more Doctors [Need to set up an ayurvedic college at and Hospitals for our people, the greater Bispara in view of the abundant avail- priority is to be given for a workable ability of herbs in this region.] (13) system of ensuring public health and delivery of those public health services. "That the Demand under the Head which alone can lift them from the misery Medical and Public Health be reduced by of endemic diseases. Rs. 100." I am sorry to say that in all our discus- [Need for special steps to check filaria, sions, in all our Plans, we speak more of kalaazar, leprosy: tuberculosis and Doctors and Medicines and much less of japanese encephalites especiaJly in North public health. I do hope that under the Bengal districts.] (14) sincere and earnest leadership of our new Health Mini~ter this emphasis wi)) change. "That the Demand under the Head I urge upon her to do so. Medical and Public Health be reduced by We have been able to achieve some Rs. 100." success in eradication of Smallpox. During [Need to set up an iodisation plant at the last (en years, no case of Smallpox has Alipur Duar in Jalpaiguri district of been reporLd. This success has given us North Benga).] (1 S) a great hope that several other scourges could also be eHminated. But, we did not have the same level of success with MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The cut Malaria which, after being more or less motions are before the House. eliminated. has recurred again. The Ministry, in its report, has admitted that SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA (Vaishali) : there has been ·ani increase of IS.1 per cent Sir, I am happy to congratulate the in the incidence of Malaria over 1983. Government for having committed j~e1f to the most desirable goal of the Alma Ata The Ministry. in its report, has stated Declaration of "Health for all by 2,000 that action for the eradication of leprosy A. D." This commitment represents a and control of T.B. has been jnten~ified great hope, a brilliant bright new star in and higher allocations have been made. the surrounding dark firmament. The The task is stupendous. I do not think dynamic leadership of Sbri Rajiv Gandhi that the aJIocations are in proportion to gives us faith that our country will reach the magnitude of the problem. Besides, the 80al despite great difficulties in our I am afraid the same urgency and anxiety way. is not being shown by the States. I would Demllnd8/or arant' APRIL 151" 1985 iJ6'1IItIIIliI ,. ..." (GeneMI) 1985 .. 86 (OMffllI) l"S~ (Shrimati Kishori Sinha) Now that tbe Finance Minister bas refer to the conditions in Bihar to impress been good enoulh to exempt refimycin upon the House the need for m'ore aUo~ from duty, this drug should also be in- tions and greater administrative efficiency. cluded in short term chemotherapy for I will confine myself to the efforts being TB patients at least in sputum positive made to control the T. B. as there is no cases. time to speak about other national programmes. The programme to control Anyway most of these diseases are the T.B. is not yet a centrally sponsored one. result of bad sanitation and lack of safe It is being run on 50 : SO basis. You know drinking water. Provision of dri nkin. that the States in general have not been water is the responsibility of the Ministry able to mobilise re-;ources as required and of Works and Housing. I would suggest so is Bihar which is chronically poor and that even at the Secretaries' level, there backward. should be complete co-ordination between Health Ministry and the Works Ministry. The Centre wants TB Centre in each With a proper co-ordination and inte- district but six of the districts in Bih.r grated approach, effective implementation do not have the Centre. Similarly Bihar of a package of measures designed for a has not provided for 2 TB centres on the total village public health like provision basis of the population of the District of drinking w,lter, sanitation, public health exceeding 20 lakhs. There are 7 districts centre. etc. may achieve a brc.lk through which qualify for 2 1 B centres on the in public health. basis of criterion fixed. 17.19. hI'S. According to the pJan drawn up by the Centre, there should have been 4 thousand (SHRI SOMNATH RATH in the chair) beds for TB patients In Bihar. But we have only 1900 beds, that is, less than half On the subject of primary health of the required l1umb~r. It h not a centres, 1 would plead with the Minister matter to ponder ova? The whole of not to d~pcnd too much on the figures North Bihar does not have a single suppJied. The claim of the primary health sanatorium. I strongly pJe.ld with the c~ntre beIng eo;tablished III m ljor p.uts of Mjnister to e~tablish at least 2 TB hos- the country IS at variance wIth the reality pitals with 200 beds each in North Bihar. of the situation. I am saying so on the basis of my personal expenence. If there The majority of the TB patients rre at are doctor~, there are no medicines. the primary he,llth centrcCi. But the per- QuIte often even the para-medic,l) person- formance m BIhar at this h.vel is very nel are not found at the centres. poor. Under mass fB detecdon programme at the Primdry Health Cent] es, a tdrget The Minister recently lamented that of 3 lakhs and 30,000 of sputum exami- despite an inCetltive of Rs. 400 per month, nation was fixed, but the achievement the doctors are not coming forward to live during the last year was only 30,000. Is it in rural areas. This will take us to the kind the way to detect and control T.B. effecti- of educdtion imparted. There is need for vely ? The government of OUj'rlfat and orientation courses. Ltving conditions others have solved this problem by provi- in the rural areas have to be improved. I ding exclUSive staff at each primary health understand the PHC concept is regard centre by posting TB A.,..,i'itants and TB as outdated. Even WHO feels the same workers, etc. Thrre is need for such staff. way. In its place, primary hospitals could The Centre ought to provide lOO~1o funds be established with full equiyments. Our for the same. Tub<.rcolo::,i:, is the dis("ase medical graduates are not able to deal of the poor and if the poor are not given with all kinds of cases. There is need for generous treatment by the Centre. this surgeons, there is need for pathologists. problem will assume a mere metiacing Can we achieve our objectives with single position and will spread to neighbouring doctor health centre or do We need, a areas thus ,allsing colossal waste of natu .. whole set of btuff including para-medicr.l ral resources. staff? We should bave a realistic asscss- bMUlllth lor iJ,lJIItI CHAITBA 25. J.w (SAKA) bemllltt/8 fo, Cronta (G~"'QI) 1985... 86 (Ge1leral) 1985-86 moot of resources and see how much person came from my constituency. H. could be provided aad then decide to told me that he h~:d been knockins at the provide the full complement of personnel doors of All lr dia Institute of Medical and equipment plus drugs at primlry Sciences, for the last two months, but be hospital centres in place of primary health had not qeen able tJ get admission there. centres. It should be recognised that I sawall the documents available with modern medicine can only be delivered him and decided to have first hand know- through an integrated team approach. ledge in this regard. It· was a neuro. surgery case and he WdS told to be pre- The family welfare programmes nrc sent in Rajkumari Arnrit Kaur Block at crudal to our success in every field. 7.30 hours. [ along with that patient Great Success achieved by Kcrala and reacheJ R')jkumari Arnrit Kaur Block at Goa underlines the almost organic link 7.20 hours. The gatekeeper did not allow between education and motivation. But us to go. He told the people who had in States like Bihar both education and one there that they could 1101 enter the motivations are lacking, perhaps a power- ward at that time. In the meantime, a ful impulse of a social movement can person came and he gave him something. help progress towuds two child norm. In I do not know '" hat was given to him. my opinion, this impulse for family plan- He allowed him to go inside. I asked him ning can be generated through a vast net- to allow me also), btlt he refused. I told work of voluntary bodies ,lided and him that the patient had been asked to be supported by public funds, all party present there at 7.30 hours and now it was Committees wilh all India Women's 7.25 hours. How will we be· able to see organisations giving the lead. We need a the doctor? He said that he would not programme of ensuring public health allow us to go inside. I again asked him combined with a programme of delivering to allow us to go fLlr God's sake, but he modern medicine with supportive and refused. I told him that I was an M.P expanding base of family planning for and, therefore, I ~hould be allowed to go. taking us towards our goal. The present He repJied that everybody there called piecemeal approach is largely self-defeating himself as M.P. I showed him my i den- as can be seen from persisting incidence tity card. Thcrruj')on he saluted me and of tropical diseases, untenanted public said why 1 did not tell him earlier that I. health centres and doctors crowding in was an M.P. I said that I had told him that urban areas. I was an M.P. but that he did not listen. T am narrating the true incident. When I All this could require large fund. I went inside, I reqlH.:sted the doctor. I would plead that ten per cent of our h~ve the name of the doctor with me budget should be provided for health, if here but I do not want to disclose it in we are serious about our commitment to the House. It old the doctor that that maD have a health for all by 2000A .D. might be admitted as he had been knock- ing at the doors of the hospital for the [Trans/alton] Jast two months. The doctor told me that he could not be admitted upto next DR. G. S RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): two months. I said that he had como Mr. Chairmun, Sir. I would like to say from Bihar and he might be udmitted for one or two things based on my own expc~ God's sake or else how he would get his rience as we, the Me:mbtrs of Parliament, treatment as he had flO other means. He in De"lhi have some S(1rt of experience replied that the patient would not be daily. 20 to 2S persons approach us here admitted. I askrd him the reasons there- for arranging employment for them and' fqr. He said, "who are you to know the to 10 persons approach us to help them reasons 1" I told him that I was an M.P. in getting admission into hospitals. Per· He said, "Are you an M.P." 1 repJied in haps, we may not be abJe to provide them the affirmative. I showed him my identity empJoyment. but the experience of seek- card. He to')d me as to why I did not teU in. admission into hospitals bere is harro .. earlier that I WDS an M.P.. I told him as wing. I would like to narrate lilY own to how many peopJe I had to tell that I eapori011Ce. ~bolJt.l to 10 day. back a wu an 0 N.P.. I asked him whether ho ll.",."ds /or Grants b~",."h lor ..,. (General) 1985-86 (Gene'td) 1985-86 fDr. O.S. Rajhans] doctors and other doctors. With tbe help meant to say that in future every M.P. of union and a handful of other people, should wear his identity card round his they are indulging in excbanae of abusive neck as is done by Government employees terms. There is no one to take care of • rd only then would he admit the patient. the patients there. Not only thiS, the " ftc r this the said patient got admission, loathsome thin,s happening in Safdarjaq was operated upon and now he is alright. Hospital, I just do not want to narrate in I met the head of that department. He the House. tork good care of that patient. What I m~an to s"y here is that everything is Therefore, I appeal to you to constitute alright at higher level but at lower level. a committee of the House to look into the there is much irregll1arity. I had met the functions of All India Institute of Medical hon. Minister also. She told me that in Sciences and Safdarjang Hospital so that such cases Medical Supdt. should be the dissatisfaction among the doctors is approached. I would like to state some- removed and they come out with the facts. thing in this respect a Iso. When a teJe- The situation there is most appauJing. phone cal1 is made to Satdarjang hospital Junior doctors have been brought in the to contact the Medical Supdt., somebody forefront and the seniors have been pushed is made to tell that doctor is not present back. Their version is that if this bung- whereas the voice of that doctor bidding ling goes on, the present situation is not that person to say "Not present" is going to improve. To give people timely clearly he.u:d on telephone. We can justice, it is necessary to constitute a com- easily understand what the matter is. mittee of the Members of this House to look into the irregularities being com- [English] mitted in these hospitals. MR. CHAIRMAN You are also a People come to M.Ps. from their far off doctor. constituencies for treatment in Delhi. How can M.Ps. help them to procure treat- DR. G.S. RAJHANS: I am a different ment ? Doctors are not inclined to work sert of doctor. I am from newspaper. because they are not getting justice, why Shall I give some inside information. will they listen to us ? Even Medical Superintendent does not listen to us. I [Translation] am saying this openly. You have arranged for our treatment in Parliament House Two-three years back when the and Annexe. Same facility should be Hindustan Times had exposed the func- provided to those persons al so who come tioning Sufdarjang Hospital and All India to us for getting their treatment here. Institute of Sciences, all these people had [Interruptions]. 1 am not asking for opening qued before me and had requested me to a separate hospital. lhere should be a stop publishing their irregularit ies. The department here itself and such arrange- lady correspondent who had done this ments should be made to enable us to get work is unfortunately no more. She bad them admitted in Safdarjang Hospital or created an impact in the entire country. All India Institute of Medical Sciences. She had exposed corruption, particularly in All India Institute of Medical S~ience$. One more thing I would like to tell. I At that time these people were terrified. come from a different background. When I went to All India Institute of Medical I go to villages I feel I find that the future Sciences and told them liot to compel us of the country is dark. Earlier, about family to expose their misdeeds again and that plannins, it used to be written everywhere they should better listen to the poor. This in ev~ry village and at every station • Hum relates to AIlMS. I will ten you about Do, Hamare DO't This did not briDI down Safdarjang Hospita1 also. I am in the the rate of our population but on the Press. Therefore, all the people from other hand we Were ridiculed. Now Hospital come to me and narrate their we find written on the family plannina experient.'cs to me. Presently, a serious hoardin,.: "Mummy, papa do. Mummy idfiJhtina is loiq on between the senior papa AGe do" or "MuDI01Y papa ko, __ ~ ~I'" • DeRi/inil" lor (Jrqnt8 CHAITitA 125• fJtn (SAKA) ~irwndl lor Or/plfl (General) 1985-86 (General; 198$-86 i dpt~. • went to a villas" in Bihar and serious matter. First, people do not let asked t)le farmers why they were not medicines and even if they ,et som", ado\)hng family planning methods. They those are spurious. No doctor is ready' retorted back that that was mea.nt for to·live in a village. The conditions are n;lumrny .. papa. In far HUDg villages they deplorable there. Sir, our healtH poliey can understand "Maa ba~pH and not should be such that those who fta~ not 1 "Mummy papa". (Interruptions) Yes, been born, should not be a)Jowed to talce the slogans should be written in the birth but who have already come \ hi this language which they un derstand. You world should be kept healthy. Ir you, dOllot i should convey the things about famiJy keep them healthy, they will become planning to the rural rolk there in a liability on the whole of the eountty. language which they may understand well Toda y. our doctors are going to England, -may be Hindi or Maithali. America and Canada, but the doe1Ots living here are not ready to reside ia MR. CHAIRMAN, Sir, if you happen villages because there is no incentive for to go to countryside, you will find that them. some places are crowded like bee-hives. Per- haps yotl are not aware that old Darbhanga I wanted to say many things but in District which includes Jhalljarpur also briLf I shall conclude by saying that there is the most populated place jn Asia and is no use making speeches. We should this has been accepted by WHO and other be practical. You may have seen today's agencies. When I go for any m(!ding new~papers, the journalists sitting here have there, I find an oC(;',iIl of htlm3' bdng~. commented upon us that the debates going You come al'fOS~ hl'rdc\ of chiJdr~n wlh) on in Parliament arc dry, Denllnds are are hungry and naked, who have big to be passed, whatever Members 'may heads and shrunken bellies alld who, it speak. The whole discussion is meaning- seems, will die within 6 months, an year Jess. Therefore, my only appeal is that or two. On one hand you have done whatever we are discus~ing here should be nothing there fL'r the fdmily planning and considered seriously. on the other, you ~ue not doing a,ything for their health a boo I have seen ea ttle SHRI KOLANDAIVELU (Oobichetti- and men bathing i,l thc same pond. palayam): Mr. Chairman, the health Clothes are al~o washLd there and people hazard is increasing more and more every use this after ca~ing themselves nearby. dctY and therefore the Ministry of Health People drink wat<..r from the same pond and Family Welfare is getting its impor- itself. Hundreds of people die of di~\ tance in India because India is the bi'8est horrea and dysentery in a single village. and the largest country, as far as popula- No one is worried about that. Thi') is ollr t ion is concerned; and family welfare India of which we arc pr\.)ud of The 'eal is actually the main problem which India is in villages and the people residlOg attracts a large number of people of this there are living a life of worms and insects. country; and birth control measures are There is no one to take care of them. being taken by the Department of Health If you want to see the life they are living, and Family Welfare. you go to Indo-Nepal border wherefrom I come. People there arc Jiving a life of I welcome the demands of the Minis- animals. What are you doing to rid. them try of Health and Family Welfare and at of this animal life, to improve their lot ? the same time I want to say one or two The onset of monsoon is still more points with regard to this. Health must agonising for them. They die of cholera, reach the poorest of the poor; health kalazar, malaria and there is no one to must reach the rural based people. come to their rescue. They say that their God is dead and in this life their Jot is not Though our country is a country of going to improve. I have seen people in poor people, it is not a country with poor that area growing old at the age of resources. We have got resources enou,h. thirty; they .tl~lVe no future before them. But bow we should utilise the resources Our health policy is such that we do not is the matter that has to be decided do anythin8 for them. Tbis is a very here. Every year measures are beiD, Delfttllll6/()I' Grants IhmtIIUII/or Gr." (Geleerol) J98j4J6 (OellerGI) 1985-86 (8hri Kolandaivelul and also the Minister of State, both, to give wide publicity. so that the mealap takea by this Department and allotme~t reaches the poorest of the poor. Wo have of funds is being given. the target IS got so many methods, vasectomy, tubec· beiDa fixed for this allotment for ev~ry tomy and laproscopy. I request the hon. State. And, Tamil Nadu is a State which Ministers to find out whether we could is doloi very well in this matter, and ~t not evolve a method, by which, by giving hal to be liven the gold medal, parti- some tablets birth control can be achieved. cularly because the target which has been We must find out if there is any possi· fixed by the Oovernmen t of India has bility of doing so. Because, science is been attained by the Tamil Nadu developing every day we should find out Governmen1. But some of the Northern this. Laproscopic method is an easy States have not done well. They have not method, that is what they say. but even attained the taraet. That is why the time by means of tablets we should be a ble to is being extended by two more months. control the birth. It must be a method Wbai made the Government of India ex- which can reach the poorest of the poor tend the time? To see that the Gold and I request the hone Minister for Health medal should not go to Tamil Nadu or and Family Welfare to open many more Tamil Nadu should not get it ? Primary Health Centres in rural areas. In Tamil Nadu we are having only 400 pri- MR. CHAIRMAN : You mean the mary health centres for a population of Karve award ? more than SO million. You can imagine what 400 primary health centres for SO SHRI KOLANDAIVELU: Whatever million p~cpJe means. At least for one it may be, the prize or the award a~d lakh of people there should be one pri- the cash. But unfortunately. the Mims- mary health centre. You must open one try of Health and Welfare is doing this. hundred more primary health centres in On what basis are they doing it? May I Tamil Nadu. In the whole country, you know what is the criteria or basis for it ? should see that there is one primary They are doing this because they wc:nt to health centre in each and every taluk or give it to some other State which has not each and every block. Therefore I request attained the target yet. the hon. Minister of State and also the Cabinet Minister to look into this matter MR. CHAIRMAN: I do not think of Tamil Nadu. In this matter We are that it is correct. doing our best. We are exceeding the targets fixed by you. The targets are SHRI KOLANDAIVELU : I think it being exceeded by Tamil Nadu, because is correct. The Minister may know it. almost all the officers and the people are The Minister knows fully-well that the intc..rested in hdving birth control. That time bas already been extended. And I h why I request that you must give incen.. think proper methods must be taken by tive to those States which are doing their the Government. Otherwise I have to best. I request that this must be done bring it to the knowledge of the Prime immediately. Minister, why our rights are being denied to us, and why our feelings are being SHRI JAFFER SHARIEF (BangaJore iAjurod. North) : I am glad that the Ministry of Health and Family Planning has come Another point is, in India we are before the House for approval of its De- givio. iDcentive for birth control. In mands for Grants. It is a very important some other countries the new born babies Ministry. As the famous proverb goes, are given incentive. They are given in- prevention is better than cure, I think, centive for each and every child. H ere in that will have to be the approach of the India we are not doing that. That is why Ministry for aU times to come. we are providing money in the budget and the allotment is being made for this Just now, my hon. friend from Tamil purpOic. And I feel this and a) so request Nadu was talking about family plannina the hon. Ministers, the Cabinet Minister and asking for openin, of more primar1 lHr1uuItII/or QrqIIt,. CRAITRA 2$, t~, (IAICA) Demtmdllor G,ilII'. 310 (04""al) 1985-86 (GtJn"."I) 198,5-86 health ,entre. and morc inc~ntive8 to be tunities here and for earning more. There livell. It is understandable. My other are also doctors who have love for the. friend was m~ntioniDI about his own country, who have love for the people, so, State. Bihar. I do not know whether there they sacrifice what they can get outside is any State or resion which is not getting and remain here and serve the people. I over-populated. I am doubtful whether think our Government should try to And any Government, whether at tbe Centre out the feelings of these people, parti- f''' in the States, will have the conviction cularly, I should say, the feelings of the ~:'ci courase to go very seriously about lowest persons in the system -the Aayas family planning. Preaching is all right. and the nurses who take pains to work But we will have more credibility if we day and night and serve the m1nkind. We practice it also. I am making a practical have to be very considerate to these sec- sUlsestion. I hope, hon. Members will tions of the people~ They are doing the take it very seriously. For those of us as smallest job to maintain the sanctity of representatives of the people, who have the hospitals. We have to see that the adopted family planning, it is aU right. doctors also get "etter treatment so that But as for those of us who are not adop- they do not look at other cou(Jtries. I ting it, let us not be timids. Let us first was real1y touched when my friend was adopt family planning ourselves. telling that doctors do not like to go to the rural areas mainly because they do My friend was ttHing about the All not get the necessary facilities, even tbe India Institute of Medical Sciences, Saf- accommodation. One day when I went to darjang Hospital and so on. I have seen a rural area, the villagers there wanted me in the hospitals that it is a professional to visit the doctol '8 place which they had jealousy which always create problems. proudly provided. I thought it was a good Where there is a need for sanctity, there thing for me to encourage them and see the whole sanctity goes away. Even with the place. When I went there, I found the highest education and specialisation, that it was just a small room in a cowshed. the noble profession has come to disrepute I was astonished to see the place. Then because of professional jealousy. And I had to criticise the leaders of that village the hospitals have also got into a lot of in a Public meeting how they could ex- problems. One doctor will not like to pect a doctor to live there and said that accept the responsibility of the other. it was the greatness of the doctor that he This attitude should go. I would like to Jived there and continued to serve them. tell the Minister and also our friends·· Then they promised to change the accom- that there is a problem of ego in the minds modation. So, this is the' condition. of doctors. Medical education is a costly Neither the people realise nor does the aft"uir. Even brilliant people find it Government do anything about it. difficult to get this education. The Prime Minister has given a lot of MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon'ble Member thrust on the welfare of women and should not refer to the GaJleries. youth. I must congratulate him and SHRI JAFFER SHARIEF: I am not compliment him for his concern about the . addressing them. I am Just making a future when he thinks about the youth. reference. I am merely reflecting the Here, if I talk of prohibition, 1 do not feelings of the doctors. know what the Members will think about we. But the time has come when we have It is a costly education. In no way are to think of this problem seriously. But they inferior to others. They have to get we are concerned about the resources. the highest possible marks for getting The excise money is more important both a.d.miS5ion to this. It is a hard study. So. for the States and for the Centre. So, we sometimes when others become the mas- allow alcohol, we allow arrack, we allow ters and dictate terms, they have the them to open any number of centres with- feelina. One should appreciate this. Many out caring who takes that liquor-whether doctors go abroad for want of oppor- it is a farmer, whether it is an industrial •• Not recorded. i'l D~ma"da for O'tllfts D;~'M~fj~" 31'2 (General) 1985-86 (Ge'heral) )9Bj~86 [Shri Jaffer Sharief] ston waS taken and the Karnataka GOilel'l\- worker, whether it is a shIm dweller, ment offeted all facilities fOr that. I feel whether it is a rich man who can afford to that it wiIJ not be fair On tbe part of the spend. There is no standard maintained. Government of India to have two centres, When we criticise them, they go to the one in Chandigarb and one ill Delhi worst, they take illicit liquor. So. I would within the shortest distance and nc,lect request the Prime Minister that when the side where the poor will not be able he thinks of the welfare of women and to afford to have treatmeut in the privf '.:' youth, he should think seriously of finding institutions. Therefore, I would requlst out ways and means so that the people, that a Regional lnstitute of Medical particularly the rOOf, do not get this Sciences on the lines of the All India arrack or liquor. If they are fond of it, Institute of Medical Sciences in Delhi and efforts should be m.~de to see whether the PG I in Chandigarh, should be opened something could be offered to them at a in BangaJore where it can serve as a centre lower price. for the entire South. Secondly, we are talking more of Secondly, jf the Government has the science and technology, my friend, Shri win power for total prohibition, nothing Shivraj Patil, the Minister for Science and like that; I think we would be going into Technology, is also here, I think we should a Dew era, even jf anybody Ir ughs et us utilise more for early ~iagnosis and also on this. for the treatment whatever equipment is available from any part of the world to Another thing is, the drug addiction save life. Thirdly, r would also rC'quest the bas b.:lomc a malady in this co:'ntry. Mirustry of Health and Family Welf.tre Some of the psychologists, the specialists to make use of the mass media, the tele- in this field, say that if we do not tackle vision that we have. We should increase this problem, perhaps our entire future the network of television much more and generation is going to suffer very badly. educate the people. About the mass Here, the Government is not serious about media I do not know Whether the Health it. I do not know what is wrong with us. and Family Welfare Ministry would take The very good fdmilies, the middle class up with the Labour Ministry and with the and the upper middle class families, are Ministry of Information and Broadcasting. badly affected, our entJrc student commu- Even the films th It WI! arl! producing, nity is getting affected, and we are not what is it that they are 80ing to inculcate? seriolls about it. I think it is bctter if the We have to see that all the mass media Govcrnmen't comes out with a law even helps us to educate our people in terms of to penalise or pro~ecute both the seller and controlling the population growth, in the user so that it Will b..! fair and we will terms of mJintaining health, giving nutri ... be ab'tc to save" the> future. tion and also in term, of environment, (Interruptions). pollution and everything that is required. Since you are ringing the bell, I would Particularly f would request the Ministry . make a request to the Health Ministry to address itself about adulteration and about one thing. I remember as a also the sub·standard drugs and even Member of the Ministry of Health Consul· adulteration in drugs. I hope the Ministry tative Committee when Mr. Khadilkar will address itself to these questions and was the Minister f(..r Health. we had see that it goes beyond its limits while demanded a reginnal h'!alth centre on the not thinki'hg in terms of States and Jines of the An India Institute of Medical Centre; it is a joint responsibility of both Sciences in Delhi and the PGI in Cha'1di· the Centre and the States to see that the garh. There is not a single centre in people of India live as healther and better South. You may say that there is one at people of the world. Pondicherry which came into being 18 hra. during fhe colonial period, but not the The Lok Sabha then adjourned tifi one which was set up by the Government. Eleven of the Clock on Tuesday, April 16, It was dcc'idcd then tt.ut Bangafcre is an 1985/Chaifra 26, 1907 (Saka). ideal place for it climatically and a deci·