10118 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 5 78. Cadet Anthony Eugene Curcio. 235. Cadet Henry Alan Winter . 82. Cadet Wendell Holmes Langdon. 236. Cadet Paul Russell Weyrauch. 106. Cadet Roy Ernest Lindquist. 237. Cadet William Holtz Diddlebock. 107. Cadet Sidney Clay Wooten. 238. Cadet Orin Doughty Haugen. 109. Cadet Ross Thatcher Sampson. 239. Cadet Morton Elmer Townes. · 111. Cadet Archibald · Willi~ Stuart. 240. Cadet Frederick James Simpson. 121. Cadet Raymond Davis Millener. 241. Cadet Charles Lewis. 123. Cadet Aubrey Dewitt Smith. 129. Cadet Frederick Reginia Weber. APPOINTMENT IN THE PHILIPPINE SCOUTS 137. Cadet Tom Robert Stoughton, jr. To be second lieutenant with rank from Jt~,ne 12, 1930 145. Cadet Othel Rochelle Deering. 79. Cadet Ma:ximiano Saqui Janairo. 147. Cadet Leon Clarence Scott. 149. Cadet William NaiJle Taylor. 151. Cadet William Warner Harris. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 153. Cadet Frederick Gardner Crabb, jr. 154. Cadet Buford Russell Nyquist. THURsDAY, June 5, 1930 161. Cadet Roy Whitman Muth. The House met at 12 o'clock noon. 162. Cadet Richard Shafle Freeman. The Chaplain, Rev. James Shera Montgomery, D. D., offered 165. Cadet Jaromir Jan Pospisil. the followrng prayer : 166. Cadet Richards Montgomery Br·istol. 167. Cadet Edward Irving Sachs. Eternal God, our thought ascend to where Thy glory and 168. Cadet .Marshall Hill Hurt, jr. praise have no end. Thine are the secrets, the treasures and 169. Cadet Samuel Philbrick Kelley. the will of heaven and earth. Never allow us to be unmi~dful .· 170. Cadet George William Lermond. of the mallest detail of our high calling, for it is our ta k 171. Cadet Normau Ray Burnett. to which we have pledged the honor of our being. Bless ~ 172. Cadet Charles Lind Olin. with unmurmuring patience and mold our spirits to sober and 173. Cadet Samuel Roth. chastened habits. Redeem us, our Father, from the ashes of 174. Cadet Joe Clifton East. exbau ted resolutions and burnt-out religious fervor. 0 lead 175. Cadet Eugene Anthony Kenny. us on toward the highest level of purity and dignity of char 176. Cadet John Livingood Pauley, jr. acter, which is the best po ses ion of man. Settle our thoughts 177. Cadet Frank Theodore Folk. to-day upon the obligations we owe our country. Amen. 178. Cadet Robert Craig Sutherland. The Journal of the proceedings of yesterday was read and 179. Cadet Joseph Farrell Haskell. approved. 180. Cadet Richard Joseph O'Keefe. 181. Cadet Carl&ton Merritt Clifford. ADDITIONAL OIBCUI'r JUDGES 182. Cadet Noel Adrian Neal. The SPEAKER. Yesterday the House passed two Senate 183. Cadet Howard Walter Quinn. bills ( S. 3493 and S. 1906). Similar House bills (H. R. 6806 184. Cadet Raymond Charles Brisach. and H. R. 9601) were not laid on the table. Without objection 185. Cadet Charley Paul Eastburn. they will be laid on the table. ' 186. Cadet George William Rumsey Perry. There was no objection. 187. Cadet Clifton Donald Blackford. VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION-cONFERENCE REPORT 188. Cadet Ephraim Melmoth Hampton. Mr. REED of New York. Mr. Speaker, I pre ~ ent a confer 189. Cadet Thomas Ferguson Wall. ence report upon the bill (H. R. 10175} to amend an act 190. Cadet Jack Griffin Pitcher. entitled "An act providing for the promotion of vocational re 191. Cadet James Sawyer Luckett. habilitation of per ons disabled in industry or otherwise and 192 Cadet .Myron Albert Quinto. their return to civil employment," appwred June 2, 1920, as 193. Cadet Joseph Arthur Miller. amended, for printing under the rule. 194. Cadet Ned Dalton Moore. 195. Cadet ChrL tian Hudgins Clarke, jr. WAIVER OF TRIAL BY JURY 196. Cadet Claude Emer on Jurney. Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous cunsent to 197. Cadet John Herbold Murrel. extend my own remarks upon the bill passed yesterday. 198. Cadet Thomas Miffiin. The SPEAKER. Is there objection. 199. Cadet Daniel Rus ell Taylor. There was no objection. 200. Cadet James Knox Wilson, jr. 1\Ir. KENNEDY. 1\Ir. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of 201. Cadet Francis Joseph Corr. the House, I wish to say at the beginning of my remarks that 203. Cadet Kurt Martin Landon. I have always been a stanch opponent of the eighteenth amend 205. Cadet Gerry Leonard Mason. ment and the Volstead Act, and I am absolutely and unquali 206. Cadet Hubern Paul Dellinger. fiedly in favor of their repeal. It is my intention to address 207. Cadet Winston Rose Maxwell. Congress on every possible occasion with the hope that I may 208. Cadet Aubrey Ellis Strode, jr. influence my colleagues to join with me in a sincere effort to 209. Cadet Daniel Anderson Cooper. strike from the statute books this oppressi're and unenforceable 210. Cadet Theodore Roberts Kimpton. legislation. 211. Cadet Earl Hugh Heimerdinger. Some time ago Pre ident Hoover appointed a commission 212. Cadet John Simpson Guthrie. known as "The President's Law Enforcement and Law Ob 213. Cadet Allan Duard MacLean. servance Commi sion," of which Mr. George W. Wickersham, 214. Cadet Richard Cloyd Parker. former Attorney General of the United States, is chairman. 215. Cadet Howard Russell Moore. This commission was created for the purpose of inve tigating 216. Cadet James Lowell Richardson, jr. the administration of the courts and the causes of the great 217. Cadet Francis Hill Dohs. increase in violations of law. 218. Cadet Ludlow King. · The Wickersham Commission found the Federal courts hope 219. Cadet Eli Stevens. lessly clogged because of the many cases arising from the vio 220. Cadet Jacob Samuel Sauer. lation of the Volstead act. They also discovered that no 221. Cadet Joseph Eakens James, jr. progress could be made to change this condition in our courts 222. Cadet Charles Edward Beauchamp. with the present facilities. The calendars were increasing 223. Cadet Paul Aloysius Chalmers. ea::h month instead of decreasing. 224. Cadet Thomas Kent. .A.s a solution of this congestion in the court calendar situa 225. Cadet Sory Smith. tion, the committee suggested several bills, one of which pro 226. Cadet Henry Estil Royall. vides for a waiver of trial by jury. 227. Cadet Paul William Blanchard, jr. I would like especially to direct your attention to this 228. Cadet Jasper J o eph Riley, jr. "waiver bill," known as H. R. 12056. 229. Cadet Theodore Francis Bogart. Be it enacted, etc., That in all criminal prosecutions within the 230. Cadet Thad Adolphus Broom. jurisdiction of the district courts of the United States the trial, except 231. Cadet Russell Guy Emery. as otherwise provided by law, shall be by jury unless the accused shall 232. Cadet Harry Curns Anderson. in open court, in such manner and under such regulations as the court 233. Cadet Walter Edwin Ahearn. may prescribe, expressly waive such trial by jury and request to be 234. Cadet Herman Wilhelm Ohme. tried by the court, whereupon, with the consent of Government counsel 1930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10119 and the sanction of the court, the trial shall be by the court without gentleman of th!s great legislative body, to give mature thought a jury, and the judgment and sentence shall have the same force and to these conditions so that we may do something constructive effect in all respects as if the same had been entered and pronounced at once toward a solution of the problem. My friends, may I upon the verdict of a jury. suggest that before this session comes to a close we take soma SEc. 2. This act shall be in force from its passage, and all acts and affirmative action which may lead to a satisfactory and digni parts of acts in conflict therewith are hereby repealed. fied solution of the unwholesome conditions exist:ng throughout It is hoped by President Hooyer's commission that the pas the country as a result of the absolute disregard for the eight sage of these bills will restore order in our Federal courts. It eenth amendment and the Volstead Act. has been said these commission bills offer the only solution Let me assure you that I propose, as a Member of this House, for the unhappy conditions existing in our courts. to constantly keep this vital question before Congress with the A casual reading of bill H. R. 12056 with its delicate phrase hope that the remedies that I will suggest will meet with your ology might deceive one, but a more careful reading will reveal favorable approval and in that way make some contribution it" true purpo e. Can anything be more disregardful of the toward correct:ng the evils resulting from the prohibition law rights of our citizens than to place, as th first consideration, and thereby elim nating the congestion in our Federal courts. in the adminish·ation of justice, the speeding up and hasty dis I believe the difficulty in the present administration of our position of trials? I protest most emphatically against the pas courts and the confusion existing throughout our Federal court sage of this bill and all similar legislation, and I urge every system is due, not to any fault of the part of the judiciary, Member around this circle to join with me in my protest. but rather to the prohib:tion laws which are fundamentally In my home State, the State of New York, a defendant can wrong, anti-American, and distasteful to an o"Verwhelming ma not waive a jury trial, except in the case of misdemeanor when jority of our citizens. he is tried by a justice of the peace or a court of special ses Ladies and gentlemen, when I again have the opportunity of sions composed of three judges. In New York, trial by jury is addressing you, it will be to point out a remedy for the conges not a private right which a defendant may waive. The public tion in our courts due to prohibition, and I am hopeful that I has an interest in the case which the defendant can not waive. shall be rewarded by having you join with me in my efforts to The New York State Constitution provides a forum to include relieve the country of these unenforceable and repulsive laws. judge and jury. The defendant can not change the trial by UNEMPLOYMENT limiting it to a judge. The leading case in New York is Cancemi Mr. BOYLAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to v. The People (18 N. Y. 128), approved later in the case of the proceed for seven and one-half minutes. People v. Cosmo (205 N. Y. 91). The SPEAKER. Is there objection? In the State courts of New York and several other States, There was no objection. the defendant can not waive a jury, whereas in the United Mr. BOYLAN. Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the State district courts in the same States, if this bill passes, a House, the Department of Labor, in their employment bulle jury may, under all circumstances, be waived. If Congress is to tin for April, 1930, reports that unemployment gained
[Mr. CAMPJJELL) may have had the very best of reasons for cast .ALLEXlED PROPAGANDA IN THE SPEAKER'S LOBBY ing his vote as he did. He himself was the judge of that. But llr. DICKINSON, when he campaigned in that part of . M~. JOHNSON of Washington. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary Iowa, made the same speeches that he did in other parts of mquuy. the State. He defended his own vote and the vote of his nine The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. colleagues, and he never anywhere or at any time apologized Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. I would like to inquire if the for those votes or for the tariff bill. rules of the House forbid the placing of propaganda in the Mr. DICKINSON made use of the fact that 68 per cent of all Speaker's lobby when no debate on the subject of the propaganda the increa es in the pending tariff bill run for the benefit of is on at the time that the propaganda is put there? And fur agriculture, or of industries based on agriculture, while only !her, is it proper to put printed matter in large placarded letters 32 per cent of such increases run for the benefit of the so-called m the lobby, criticizing this body? industries. [Applause.) The SPEAKER. The Chair will simply state that he ordered Mr. Speaker, I a k unanimous consent to include in my re the Doorkeeper to remove the documents yesterday. marks a quotation from the CoNGRESSIONAL RECORD, setting forth Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. Do I under tand the Chair a colloquy on this subject in another body of the Congress. It to say that the propaganda matter has been removed from the is a direct quotation from the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. lobby? Mr. HOWARD. The other body that the gentleman refers The SPEAKER. As soon as it was called to the attention of to i the Senate of the United States? the Chair it was ordered removed, under the authority which . Mr. COLE. I am not permitted to answer that question the Chair possesses under rule 1, clause 3, which provides as under Hou "e 'lilles, a.s I understand them, for we are not per follows: · mitted to refer specifically to what takes place in such. other He [the Speaker] shall have general control, except as provided by body. rule or law, of the Hall of the House, and of the corridors and passages The ...-:PEAKER. The Chair did not understand the gentle and the disposal of the unappropriated rooms in that part of the Capitol man. assigned to the use of the House, until further order. Mr. QOLE. Mr. Speaker, ·I asked unanimous consent to in Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. That applies to the propa dude in my remarks a quotation from the CONGRESSIONAL ganda on the lumber tariff? REcoRD, consisting of two or three paragraphs, setting forth The SPEAKER. Yes. in full the colloquy upon which the newspaper reports alluded Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. Does that apply to the criti to by me were based. cal matter or is it more general, applying to, for instance the The SPEAKER. Is that the RECORD that the Chair saw a placards with regard to the lumber tariff? , little while ago? Mr. COLE. Ye .... The SPEAKER. The rule is as follows : The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks it would be improper He shall have general control, except as provided by rnle or law, of to do so. the Hall of the Honse, and of the corridors and passages and the dis REFERENDUM IN NEVADA posal of the unappropriated rooms in that part of the Capitol a signed Mr. ARENTZ. Mr. Speaker, in 1926 we had a referendum in to the use of the House, until tru·ther order. Nevada on two question . The other day I wired home asking The Chair was of the opinion that at least two of the sen for the wording of that referendum. I received a telegram in tences in that document were sentences which, if pronounced reply, and would like to insert it in the RoooRD. on the floor of the House, would have been subject to being The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the gentleman's re taken down, and were not in order, and, by analogy the Chair quest? thinks it is even more improper to have such publications posted There wa no objection. where no one can criticize them. Mr. ARENTZ. The telegram is as follows : As scon as the matter was called to the attention of the RENO, N1ilv., June .+, 1930. Chair, the matter was ordered removed. SAMUEL s. ARENTZ, Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. If the Speaker will permit Membe-r of Oongress, Wctshington, D. 0.: I think the other matter should be removed at this time also. ' The following two questions were submitted to voters of Nevada by The SPEAKER. The Chair does not know to what the referendum in general election 1926 : gentleman refers. Question No. 2 : Shall Senate Joint Resolution No. 6, reading as l\fr. CRISP. Mr. Speaker, I have no criticism of the Speaker follows- having the placards removed if the Speaker saw fit, but I rise " Senate joint resolution making application to the Congress of the to this parliamentary inquiry: Does the Speaker hold that when United States to call a convention for proposing an amendment to a Member of the House places a statement in the lobby of the Article XVIII of the amendments to the Constitution of the United House for the benefit- of his colleagues, that that Member is a States lobbyist or is guilty of lobbying? The SPEAKER. No. That is not the point at all. The point " Whereas both by popnlar vote and legislative action the people of is that in the opinion of the Chair it imputed dishonorable the State of Nevada are on record as favoring prohibition; and motives to the conferees on the part of the Bon e. "Whereas experience has demonstrated that the attempt to abolish Mr. CRISP. I happened to be passing by and saw an recognized abuses of the liquor traffic by the radical means of constitu honored Member of this House putting up the notices in the tional prohibition has generally failed of its purpose; and lobby, and I just wanted to know whether the Speaker was "Whereas the Congress is now powerless to enact a law upon the agreeing with the statement of the gentleman from Washington m;bject, except under such constitutional limitations as to make its [Mr. JoHNSON) that the Member of the House was lobbying by remedial value extremely doubtful; and p!acing that in the lobby? . " Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires the Con The SPEAKER~ The Chair thinks that anything which give gress to call a constitutional convention upon application of the legis information is proper, but anything wh:ch imputes dishonorable latures of two-thirds of the States: Now, therefore, be it 11 motives to Members of the House, either conferees or others Resolvea by the Senate ana Assembly of the State of Nevada, That is not proper. ' the Legislature of the State of Nevada make, and that said legislature hereby does make, application to the Congress of the United States to l\Ir. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I just came on the floor, and call a convention for proposing an amendment to Article XVIII of the I heard my colleague from Georgia say that he saw one of the amendments to the Constitution of the United States, and that the Members place these things in the corridor. Has that point Congress propose the method of ratification thereof; be it further been developed? "Resolved, That copies of this resolution duly authenticated be trans The SPEAKER. The Chair has no knowledge of who did mitted without delay by the secretary of state of Nevada to the Con it or how it was done. gress of the United States, and also to the legislatures of the several Mr. CRISP. It was the gentleman from Illinois, Mr. BuCK States "-be approved? • BEE, who is a Republican Member of this House. Question No. 3 : Shall that part of Senate Joint Resolution No. 6, -Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I want the RECORD to show reading as follows, " Experience has demonstrated that the attempt to if it is a fact, who placed them there and that the Speake; abolish recognized abuses of the liquor trafilc by the radical means of removed them, or else it may be interpreted that any one of the constitutional prohibition has generally failed of its purpose" be 435 Members placed matter in the Speaker's lobby that wa so approved? offensive to the Speaker and to the Members of the House that Question No. 2 received 18,131 votes against 5,352. it was removed. I do not think it should be left in such con Question No. 3 received 17,332 votes against 5,607. dition that each Member of the House would have to explain Thirty-one thousand two hundred and forty-six votes cast in State in that he was not responsible. that election. The SPEAKER. The Chair does not think it makes a parti lUlNO GAZETT&. cle of difference who the Member was. 1930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10123 l\Ir. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, it makes a lot of difference to has any right to have them removed unless be knows they are the membership who it was. untrue. If they are untrue that statement ought to be made The SPEAKER. The Chair has no knowledge of who placed from the rostrum before the Speaker holds that the docYment the matter there. is subject to the criticism he has just announced. If they are Mr. GARl\TER. I would not want to place anything in the true a Member has the right to utter them here. Now, the Speaker's lobby for the information of the House that was so question is : Are they true? offensive to the Speaker that he had to have it removed, and The SPEAKER. Let the Chair ask the gentleman, if be that a Member of the House had to rise on the floor and de should succeed in the high and honorable ambition he has to· nounce it. I think we are entitled to know who it was that succeed the present occupant of the chair, would he not have placed it there. I understand my colleague from Georgia has such a document as that removed? given the name of the Member. Mr. GARNER. I would first ascertain, Mr. Speaker, whether The SPEAKER. It would have made no difference who it there was any truth in it. Now, if there is truth in that state was, the Chair would have caused it to be removed under the ment-! repeat-if there is truth in that statement, it has a authority which the Chair possesses. right to be made, put in the lobby, and put in the CoNGRESSIONAL Mr. GARI\'ER. Does the Chair know who it was? RECORD, and I am going to put it in the RECORD. Unless some The SPEAKER. The Chair does not. body shows it is not true, I am going to take the floor before this 1\Ir. JOHNSON of Washington. Mr. Speaker, I ask unani- Congress is over and read that into the RECORD. Now, sir, you mous consent to address the House for three minutes. can call me to order, and when you call me to order then the Mr. RAMSEYER. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. query is going to come: Is it true? Then if you show I am The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. making a statement which is not true, I will not insist upon it; Mr. RAMSEYER. In regard to placards placed in the but I am going to undertake to show that it is true. Speaker's lobby or any place else outside of this Chamber, I The SPEAKER. The question as to the h·uth of the state understand the Speaker has charge of the corridors and pas ment is not material. Where a statement of that kind ca.Sts a sage , including the so-called Speaker's lobby. Oftentimes doubt upon the worthiness of the motives of the conferees, placards are placed in the Speaker.. s lobby, touching matters then it is a question of fact. Of course, the Chair would bear that are before the House or that are likely to come before the gentleman to argue it. the House soon. Placards were placed there yesterday, evi Mr. GAR..~ER. I do not care to argue the question at this dently expecting the conference report with the lumber i~sue time. The only thing I care to say now is that if I took the would be presented to the House very soon. I understand that floor and pointed at :Mr. H.A WLEY and said, "You violated your the Speaker has control, and I presume, in view of the fact agreement," and he had violated his agreement, I would have that he has control of the lobby, Members who wish to place the right to say it, and that 1\Ir. HAwLEY was acting as our placards there should first see the Speaker and get his con master rather than our servant. That is a statement I would sent. Is that the inference that we are to get from the have a perfect right to make in the well of this House. Speaker's opinion which he has just expressed? Of course, th~ The SPEAKER. The Chair was very much impressed with Speaker can order anything removed from the Speaker's lobby, the idea that the gentleman from Texas, being a member of .fue whether in his opinion it is offensive or not. conference, remained silent. The SPEAKER. The Chair will answer the question by say Mr. GARNER. I am not very thin-skinned about this thing of ing that of the hundreds of placards which the Ch~ir has seen being called a master. posted in the lobby, this is the only one he has ever seen to Mr. TILSON. May I ask the gentleman from Texas this ques which he has had any objection. tion : If he and I as the minority and majority leaders had en Mr. RAMSEYER. However, the Speaker has power over the tered into a gentleman's agreement and afterwards I charged placing of placards in the Speaker's lobby? that the gentleman from Texas had violated that gentleman's The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks he could have them all agreement, would he not resent it? Would not the gentleman removed if he saw fit, but he certainly would not cause to be consider such a charge a slur upon his honor? removed any placards which were intended to give informa Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman is assuming some tion and not impute any dishonorable motives to a Member. thing that could not happen, but if I had violated an agreement Mr. GARNER. Did I understand the Chair to rule that it or if the gentleman · from Connecticut ever violates an agree would be against the rules of the House to utter on the floor of ment with me, I will point my finger at him and tell him about it. the House the language contained in one of the documents Mr. 'l'II... SON. I hope the gentleman will do so. which was taken down? Mr. GARNER. And I would have a right to do it. The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks so. The Chair has sent Mr. TILSON. Certainly. for a copy of the matter. Mr. GARNER. But if these gentlemen have violated a gen Mr. GARNER. I would like to hear what it is. tleman's agreement-! do not know whether they have or not, I Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. Mr. Speaker, I have a copy, did not make one-but if they violated a gentleman's agreement and I ask that it be read. about lumber any Member of the House has the right to say so. 1\Ir. GARNER. I should like to hear it. Mt'. TILSON. But the charge is that they did violate a gen The''"SPEAKER. Two of the va1·ious sentence~ which in the tleman's agreement and I regard that as a serious charge. opinion of the Chair were objectionable are as follows: Mr. GARNER. Suppose the gentleman and I have a gentle man's agreement, and as the gentleman says, I violate it--· 3. The House conferees, in violation of the gentleman's agreement Mr. TILSON. I do not think the gentleman woulu. and in disregard of the positive mandate of the House, voted lumber Mr. GARNER. Would not the gentleman have the right to ' used by the farmers on the dutiable list and poles nnd ties used by the tell me on the floor of the House I had violated it? publlc utilities on the free list. Mr. TILSON. I could not conceive of the gentleman breaking 4. The conferees are the servants of the House, not its masters. a gentleman's agreement. Will the Members by their votes condone the violation of the gentle Mr. GARNER. I think the gentleman is right about that. man's agr~ment and the disregard of the positive mandate of tbe House on the part of its conferees? · [Laughter and applause.] Mr. TILSON. And I should certainly never charge the Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inq_uiry. gentleman with breaking such an agreement. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will ~tate it. Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, may I say to the gentleman Mr. GARNER. Just what portion of that statement is sub- . that if these gentlemen did break a gentleman's agreement. ject to the interpretation that it violates the rules of the would not a Member have the right to say so? Hou e? If there was a gentleman's agreement made and they Mr. MICHENER. Will the gentleman yield? violated it, you have a right to recite that fact from the rostrum. Mr. GARNER. Yes. The query comes: Did they violate their gentleman's agree Mr. MICHENER. Is there not a vast dlft'erence between ment? The Speaker, as I understand, considers that a deroga posting up an anonymous placard in the Speaker's lobby charg tory statement. Now, if it is not true, let somebody get up ing that which amounts to bad faith or that which reflects and state it is not true. The Speaker has no right to assume upon a Member of the House, when the Member involved has it is not true if a Member placed it in the RECORD and said no opportunity to answer, and a Member coming in on the floor it is true. Suppose I should get up on the floor and say the here and making sucb a charge in the face of the Member con House conferees violated their agreement and acted as the mas cerned, where the truth or the untruth of the charge may be ters of the House rather than its servants. Would the Speaker established? If the statement is shown to be untrue, then, of call me to order? No; be would not. Suppose it was a fact course, it is out of order. If it is shown that it is true, then it that they did violate their agreement and suppose they were would be in order; and does the gentleman think that the acting as the masters of the House. I think the Chair certainly Speaker is wrong in his ruling that a person may not post up would not have the right to assume that the statements which an anonymous placard in the Speaker's lobby imputing impure appeared out there are not true, and I do not think the Speaker or improper motives to a Member of the HouEe and permit that 10124 CONGRESS! ON AL RECORD-HOUSE JuNE 5 placard to stand there without contradiction or without as a matter of course-that lumber was placed on the dutiable removal? list ·and poles were placed on the free list, as expressed in Mr. GARNER. I have certainly never indulged in any of the. paragraph 3 which was read by the Speaker. demonstrations in the Speaker's lobby uch as we often find out . If the first and second paragraphs are true, and there is noth there. I undertake to say what I have to say and what infor ~ng defamatory about them, it follows that the third paragraph mation I can gi"\"e from the well of the House. IS also ?-ue. There was no intention whatever of impugning 1\lr. 1\IICHE~ER. Yes. the motive of anyone. That statement was prepared in confer Mr. GARNER. And I think that is the proper place to give it. ence by at lea t half a dozen, and I assume full responsibility llr. MICHE!\"'Ell. So do I. for that statement, together with the others who were present. Mr. GARl\"'ER. Nevertheless, let me say to the gentleman The fourth paragraph merely addresses a question to Members from Michigan, if you should violate a gentleman's agreement as to what they are going to do about it. with one of your colleagues and thereby accomplish something 1\lr. KORELL and Mr. JOHNSON of Washington ro e. that you could not accomplish unless you did violate it, thell Mr. RAMSEYER. In fact, my own per onal inclination was your colleague has the right to say so. to make it stronger, but it was the view of tho e who were Mr. ELLIS. Where? pres~nt that this was simply a statement of fact to get the lum Mr. GARNER. As I understand the statement involved in ber Issue squarely and forcibly before the Members of the this matter-! have not the statement before me-the 1\lembet House. who placed the statement in the Speaker's lobby undertook to Mr: JO_!INSON of. Washington. Mr. Speaker, a parliamen convey to the membership of the House the fact that there was tary mqmry. What IS the question before the House? a gentleman's agreement about lumber and that the conferee The SPEAKER. The gentleman is proceeding by unanimous had violated it, and therefore had accomplished something consent. · they could not have accompli hed if they had not violated the Mr. RAMSEYER. One issue is whether the agreement and gentleman's agreement I think the gentleman from Michigan mandate have been violated and disregarded. [Mr. MicHENER) will agree with me that if that is true, and if Mr. CRAMTON. Regular order, Mr. Speaker. the conferees did violate the gentleman's agreement, and if they Mr. GARNER. Will the gentleman yield for a que tion? did accomplish something they could not otherwise have accom Mr. RAMSEYER. I should like to yield, but the regular plished, they have the right not only to speak of it but to de order has been called for. nounce them for doing it. The SPEAKER. The regular order is demanded. . Mr. MICHENER. I agree with the gentleman. I agree that 1\fr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that this is the forum where they should be denounced, but I do not the gentleman may proceed for five minutes. agree with the gentleman if he contends that some person, Mr. JOHNSON o~ Washington. Reserving the right to object, ULknown so far as the article itself is concerned, may place I ask for three mmutes at the conclusion of the gentleman's in the Speaker's lobby, or in any other part of this Capitol, a remarks. statement which is defamatory of any Member of this body, M~. GARNER. And I ask unanimous consent that I may and permit that statement to announce to the world that these have five minutes following the gentleman from Washington. particular individuals have violated their honor. I think the Mr. WOODRUFF. Mr. Speaker, I object. Speaker was doing exactly light when he ordered the placard Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, this is Calendar Wednesday removed from the lobby. [Applause.] and I call for the regular order. ' Mr. RAMSEYER. Mr. Speaker, may I say a word on this subject before we proceed further? I want to address myself CONSTRUCTION AT UNITED STATES MILITARY ACADEMY, WEST POINT, to the Chair on the matter before the House. N.Y., ETO. The SPEAKER. Without objection, the gentleman may The SPEAKER. The regular order is the business on Calen proceed. dar Wedne day, and the Clerk will call the committees. Mr. RAMSEYER. The Chair read the third and fourth The Clerk called the Committee on Military Affau·s. pnragraphs of this statement tbat was in the Speaker's lobby, Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee but the Chair did not read the first and second paragraphs. on Military Affairs, I call up the bill (H. R. 8159) to authorize E"\"idently the Chair finds nothing wrong with the first and appropriations for construction at the United States Military second p.aragrapqs. Academy, West Point, N.Y.; Fort Lewis, Wash.; Fort Benning, Now, I have no objection, and I do not think anyone else Ga. ; and for other purposes, and I ask unanimous con ent that has any objection to having that matter removed if it hurts the the bill may be considered in the House as in Committee of the feelings of anybody. I know it was not intended to be defama Whole. tory or to impute dishonorable motives. It was intended to The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania calls up convey to the House an important phase of the lumber issue. the bill H. R. 8159, and asks unanimous consent that it be The first paragraph in the statement is this: considered in the House as in Committee of the \Vhole. Is 1. The plain purpose of the gentleman's agreement was that the there objection? House and not its conferees should determine the duties on lumber. Mr. GAR1'-.'ER. Reserving the right to object, I want to go along with the committee, but with these calls for the regular This is a plain statement of fact. This is an interpretation order I can not give consent unless I can speak for five minutes. placed on the agreement, that everybody in this House knows 1\Ir. RANSLEY. If the gentleman from Texas will glance at about, entered into before the bill was sent to conference; that the clock he will see that the Committee on Military Affairs is, that the lumber duties should be determined in the House has been pretty patient We have been waiting long for this by votes of the Hou e and not by the conferees. day. It is now almost 1 o'clock and nearly one hour has been The second paragraph is this: consumed, and we do want to take up our bills in the regular The mantiate of the House by overwhelming majorities was that all order. lumber be placed on the free list. Mr. LAGUARDIA. Mr. Speaker, this bill calls for an appri We had a vote on logs, we had a vote on cedar lumber, we priation of $750 000. The membership has a right to discuss it had a vote on shingles, and we had a vote on the Jones amend in Committee of the Wbole. It is the kind of a bill that under ment The smallest majority on these four separate votes the rules of the House must be considered in Committee of the was 106. Whole. I hope the gentleman will not press his request. ' Mr. JOHNSON of Wa hington. Mr. Speaker, I rise to make Mr. RANSLEY. Well, Mr. Speaker, owing to objections, I a point of order. The gentleman is making a speecb in his will not press it I understand the House goes into Committee effort to try to defame and denounce the tariff bill now in con of the \Vnole automatically. ference and is not himself propounding a parliamentary inquiry. The SPEAKER. The bill being on the Union Calendar, the Mr. LAGUARDIA. That is not a point of order. House automatically goes into the Committee of the Whole Mr. RAMSEYER. I am addre sing myself to the Chair on House on the state of the Union. the opinion expressed by the Chair in regard to language on Accordingly the House resolved itself into Committee of the the placard on the Lumber Issue. . Whole House on the state of the Union, with l\lr. MIOHENEB Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. I would like to be assured in the chair. some time in opposition. The Clerk read the title to the bill. Mr. RAMSEYER. Let us consider these sentences together. Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Chairman. I ask unanimous consent that There is no question that the effect of these four votes on the first reading of the bill be dispen ed with. logs, cedar lumber, shingles, and the Jones amendment was The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? that all lumber be placed on the free list. There was no objection. If these two paragraphs are correct and true, and I do not Mr. LAGUARDIA. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Chairman. think they can be controverted, the third paragraph follows The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will state it. 1930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10125 :Mr. LAGUARDIA. I understand the opposition to the bill is Mr. BARBOUR. Take the one at Fort Benning, Ga., for a entitled to recognitiou for one hour. medical detachment. Has that already been authorized, or is The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is correct. that a new project? I ' Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I ask recognition in opposition. Mr. RANSLEY. That is also a transfer, due to the lower The CHAffil\ld..N. Is there any member of the Military cost of construction than they imagined it would be. They Affairs Committee opposed to the bill? were able to save $75,000. It is now proposed to use that at Mr. RANSLEY. I think not. Fort Benning for another purpose. There is no extra appro The CHAIRMAN. Then the Chair will recognize the gentle priation there. man from New York [Mr. TABER] in opposition. Mr. BARBOUR. It is to be used for a barracks? Mr. RANSLEY. M.r. Speaker, this bill has the recommenda Mr. HILL of Alabama. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman tion of the Secretary of War and was reported unanimously yield? by the Committee on Military Affairs. Mr. RANSLEY. Yes. Section 1 of the bill authorizes a sum not to exceed $45,000 1\Ir. HILL of Alabama. It is to be used for a medical de to be expended for the completion of officers' quarters at West tachment barracks. It was originally appropriated for the Point. Blue prints are on file showing that all but one wing construction of a barracks at Fort Benning. Due to the econ is completed. The foundation work is in place and certain omy they practiced, and to a decrease in the cost, they were materials are on hand for Uf'e. The excess cost for the founda able to save $75,000 from the appropriation for the hospital. tion of the building was caused by the contractor being forced Now they seek to use it for a medical detachment barracks. to blast into solid rock for the foundation. Mr. BARBOUR. There were bearings on this matter? Section 2 of the bill provides for a change of the require Mr. HILL of Alabama. Ob, yes. ments at Fort Lewis, l\o~ash. It is deemed necessary for the 1\Ir. BARBOUR. Is this building a part of the general con building program at the post There is no increa e in the sh·uction program at Fort Benning? fund at all. Mr. RANSLEY. Yes. General Summerall appeared before It "Was originally planned to build a barracks to accom the committee and made a personal plea that we have this bill modate 2,432 men, but the program was reduced in order introduced and do our utmost to b.ave it passed. to provide personnel for the Air Corps, which is being in l\Ir. BARBOUR. I call the attention of the chairman to creased, so that a barrack.· sufficient for 1,905 men is now all another matter in the report. On page 2 it is set out that that is required. Sufficient accommodations for this number under the Fort Lewis item there are included in this amount ha;-e been completed at Fort Lewis, and the balance of the to be appropriated sums for water and sewer connections, elec amow1t appropriated in February, 1929, is available for the tric connections, connecting roadways and walks, and drain construction of the officers' quarters. age, and tho e provisions are also made in connection with the In the third section of the bill you will find authorized the noncommissioned officers' quarters. construction and installation at ·Fort Benning, Ga., of a bar Mr. RANSLEY. Yes. Blue prints and specifications that racks for a medical detachment to cost not more than $75,000. can not be crowded into a report will be furnished the gentle Due to lower costs this amount will be available out of the man's subcommittee explaining fully what could not really be original authorization. At present the medical detachment p1inted in a concise and readable report. of 164 enlisted men is sheltered in temporary structu.res. In Mr. BARBOUR. 1\Iay I say this to the gentleman, that there connection with the authorization a considerable saving can has been some difference of opinion as to just how far these be made in construction cost and a better building will be amounts for construction of quarters and barracks should go secured for the sum than ordinarily would be possible, due to in providing electrical wiring and water connections and things the fact that the present contractor is now on the grounds and of that kind. There bas been some misunderstanding as to will be in better position to submit a lower bid. the extent to which the fund appropriated should be applied. 11fr. BARBOUR. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? In the last War Department appropriation bill we reached an Mr. RANSLEY. Yes; I yield to the gentleman from Cali agreement in conference which provided that these funds should fornia. be used for certain definite purposes which should be included Mr. BARBOUR. Authorizations have already been made for in the amount appropriated for the building. It is not an these projects and for appropriations? unreasonable provision. Mr. RANSLEY. No; I would say not. In the first place, l\lr. RA...'lSLEY. No. I will say to the gentleman from Cali it is transferring from a specific purpose to another purpose. fornia that be has the last say in the matter. All we want is Mr. BARBOUR. I notice in the report about this first an authorization, and it will be possible, probably, for you to rut project at West Point, there has been authorized and appro down the figure. priated $216,000 for an apartment building. As I understand, Mr. BARBOUR. I think the more satisfactory way woultl this $45,000 is proposed in addition to the $216,000 that was be for the committee to accept an amendment to this bill, insert authorized. · ing language similar to that in the appropriation bill, so that Mr. RANSLEY. That is true. The extra money is desired there will be no misunderstanding as to the extent of this owing to the fact that the contractor found that there was authorization. I have here a proposed amendment and will solid rock and be bad to blast and remove that r ock before read to you the substance of it, so that it will be un
WHAT ABE 'rHE IMPORTA~T COMMITTEES? lican in the delegation. Usually the member of this committee There are several. The two most important are probably is the dean of the delegation-the gentleman who has ~erved Appropriations and Ways and Means. All bills that relate to longest in Congress from that State. In committee meet'ngs the appropriation of money must be considered by and reported each member has as many votes as there are Republican Mem out by the Appropriations Committee of the House. Th:s com bers from his State. Thus at the present time in the Seventy mittee consists of 35 members, 21 Republicans and 14 Demo first Congress, Pennsylvania has 36 votes, New York 20, Colo crats. It reports out several bills that carry appropriations for rado 3, Wyoming 1, etc. a little over $4,000,000,000 each year. The Ways and Means WHAT IS THE COMMITTEI!l ON RULES? Committee has to consider and report out all bills that have in This is one of the most important committees, as it controls any way to do with raising revenue, tariff, or any sort of tuxes. the destiny of more proposed legislation than any other. Dills Th's committee consists of 25 .members, 15 Republicans and 10 from the Ways and Means and Appropriations have the rigbt Democrats. All revenue and appropriation bills must originate of way, so to speak, and can always be brought up for considera in the House of Representatives and come out of these two tion. Other committees have only a few calendar days in any committees. one session. So many biDs reported out can not be brought WHAT ABOUT OTHER COYMITTEES? up for consideration. The Rules Committee can report a rule There are about 43 standing committees, 4 joint standing com for consideration· of a bill any day. It can bring in a rule for mittees, and several select committees appointed for specific the consideratioA .Qf any bill that has been reported out of any 1930 CONGRESS! ON AL RECORD- HOUSE 10129 committee any time. In the last days of a session special rules ARlO BILLS OFTEN PASSED OVIm PRJ7SIDENT"S VETOf to bring out special bills are much in demand. The Rules Com No; not very often. Most bills that are vetoed by Presidents mittee has much power, certainly has the power of selection, are not of great concern to the general public. President Grover but it must be fair and discriminating, selecting what the Cleveland made a reputation for vetoing more bills than any majority of Congress seems to want most, as the rule it brings other President, but the bills were mostly private pension bills. in must be adopted by the House. Bills passed over presidential vetoes are usually of interest to WHAT IS THE STEERING COMMITTEE? a great many people all over the United States, and consequently This is a committee not much heard of nor mentioned in the brought prominently to the attention of many Members. For new papers. And I dare say that hardly two dozen Members instance: of the House can tell the names of all of the members on the In President Wilson's administration the three bills passed steering committee. This is a little party adjunct to help pro over his veto were : mote legislation the majority is interested in, and help to iron First Repeal of the daylight savings law. out a program of procedure, especially in the closing days of a Second. The Volstead Act. se sion. It is composed of nine of the older Republican :Mem Third. To cease enlistments in the Army. bers. In addition, the majority leader acts as chairman. When None were passed over President Harding's veto. important matters are up for consideration the Speaker and The four bills passed over President Coolidge's veto were : the chairman of the Rules Committee sit in. This committee First. The so-called bonus or adjusted compensation bill. really has a good deal of influence in helping to shape up the Second. The emergency officers' retirement bill. legislative program. Third. The bill to provide a differential in pay for night work WHAT ABE CONFERE::-fCES A.~D CONFEREES? in the Postal Service. The House passes a bill, for instance. It goes to the Senate Fourth. Granting allowances to fourth-class postmasters for and may be much amended over theTe, as are appropriations light, rent, fuel, and equipment and tariff bills usually. The House will not accept the amend President Hoover has had just one bill passed over his veto, ments. So the bill is sent to conference. The House appoints that being for an increase in pensions for Spanish War veterans. three or five Members as conferees and the Senate appoints WHAT IS "UNANIMOUS CONSENT "r an equal number. These gentlemen meet and hold a conference Many little actions are done in and taken by the House by and discuss the points in disagreement. The conferees of the unanimous consent. The Member asks for unanimous consent Senate give up some items and the conferees of the House agree to do this or that- to correct the RECORD, to speak for five min to orne. Finally they get together on a bill somewhere be utes or more out of order, to insert remarks in the RECORD, to tween the position taken by each House. Sometimes the con change an amendment he bas offered, to have a letter read. If ferees do not give up easily, sometimes the conference drags on there is no objection on the part of any :Member, then consent for days or weeks, and they have run for months. Usually is granted. Frequently a gentleman says " I object," and that they get together and usually tbe conference report is adopted settles that. by both Houses. Which end of the Capitol is the most stub The leader of the majority makes many unanimous-consent born? Well, the other end, of course. requests, and usually they are granted. He may ask consent to HOW ABE BILLS I:!<."TRODUCED! meet at a certain hour, to adjourn over for a day or two, to A Member writes up his bill and drops it in the basket on the hold a night session, to have so many hours for debate on a Clerk's desk. It is then referred to the appropriate committee. bill, to take up specified matters on certain days out of order, Many bills lay in committee undisturbed and are never heard to set days for the Private or Consent Calendars. The granting from again. In some cases they have served their purpose with of the request saves the passing of motions or the making of out further action. They have advertised the Member and the rules. project. Many bills are introduced that have not the slightest Many bills are passed by unanimous consent. All bills of a chance of serious consideration or passage. private character go on the Private Calendar. And another HOW IS A BILL PASSED! character of bills_go on the Consent Calendar. On days when Bills that have strong support are given consideration by the these bills are in order, the Clerk reads the title of the bill, the committee. Some are reported out and go on the calendar. Speaker asks, " Is there objection? " Any Member present may When reached they are voted on in the House. A bill must be sar, "I object," if be desires, in which case the bill can not be passed in the House, then go to the Senate and be passed there, taken up; and the next title is read. If no objection is made, then be signed by the President to become a law. If a bill is first the bill is read and passed very quickly usually. The theory is passed by the Senate it next goes to the House, and if passed that if no one cares to object to a bill, certainly many would then to the Pre8ident. not vote against it, so it ought to be passed. Both party organi zations haYe several Members who make it their business to ABE M.U\Y BI LLS INTRODUCED! study all bills on the Consent Calendars and be ready. to object Yes; too many. In the Sixty-ninth Congress 17,415 bills and or insist on what they think to be the proper amendments be joint resolutions were introduced in the House of Representa fore consent is granted for the bill to be considered. tives and 6,007 in the Senate. Often a Member will arise and say, "Reserving the right to In the Seventieth Congre s 17,769 in the House and 6,127 in object," and ask questions about the bill. This · gives the au the Senate. thor of the bill a chance to explain or defend it, and sometimes In the Seventy-first Congress, which has another session for quite a little debate is stirred up even on consent days. After business next winter, up to date the bills introduced is about a while somebody may shout, " Regular order ! " The Speaker 13,000 in the House and 4,900 in the Senate. The Sixty-fifth- says, "Regular order is demanded." Whereupon the gentleman Congress holds the record for number of bills, 33,015 being who started the trouble by " reserving the right to object" introduced. must immediately make his objection or withdraw it. He may HOW MANY BILLS PASS? be just as apt to do one as the other, and on his decision rests Not as many as you would probably think, considering the the destiny of some anxious Member's important bill-for all number introduced and the length of the session. In the Sixty bills are important to their hopeful authors. On consent days ninth Congress 1,423 bills and resolutions were passed; in the Members with bills on the calendar are most patient, polite, SeYentieth Congress the number was 1,722. and persuasive in tbeir ways toward the gentlemen who sit at WHAT lS A VETO? the table and whose business it is to inquire into the merits of As has been said, after a bill has passed the House and Senate bills coming up. it must be signed by the President to become a law. If the HOW ARE VOTES TA.KJlN? President does not think the measure good public policy, he may Four different ways. Usually the Speaker puts the (iUestion refuse to· sign it. He writes a veto message and sends it with in this form: "As many as are in favor (of the motion) say the bill back to the body from which it came. 'Aye,'" and then, "As many as are opposed say 'No.'" In most ARE MANY BILLS YETOED? instances the vote taken thus is decisive enough to satisfy. But Not as many as you might think. 'In eight years President if the Speaker is in doubt, or if it sounds close, any l\Iember Wilson vetoed 33 bills. President Harding vetoed 5, and Presi may ask for a division. In this case the Speaker asks those in dent Coolidge Yetoed 20. President Hoover has so far vetoed favor to stand up and be counted. Then those opposed to the two bills. proposition to stand up and be counted. The Speaker does the HOW DOES CONGRESS OVERRIDE A VETO? counting and announces the result. But if he is still in doubt, When a bill comes back to Congress with a veto message it is or if a demand is made by one-fifth of a quorum-that is, 20 in voted upon again, as to whether it shall be passed over the the Committee of the Whole or 44 in the House-tellers are President's veto. If two-thirds of the Members present and ordered. The Speaker appoints one gentleman on each side of voting in both House and Senate vote to pass the bill over the the question to make the count. The two tellers take their veto, the bill then becomes a law. place at the head of the center aisle. All Members favoring 10130 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JuNE 5 the proposition walk through between the tellers and are enough room for desks for all, so they were taken out. As it counted Then those opposed walk through and are counted. is, those Members present can bunch in the center of the Hou e This vote settles most questions. and be closer to the center of activity. But a roll call may be demanded by anybody on any question WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE SPEAKER? in the House, and if supported by one-fifth of those present it He presides over the House, appoints the chairman to preside is ordered. This privilege is guaranteed by the Constitution. over the Committee of the Whole, appoints all special or select The Clerk reads the names of the whole membership, and as committees, appoints conference committees, bas the power of his or her name is called the Member answers " aye" or " no." recognition of Members, makes many important rulings and de The names of those not voting the first time are read a second cisions in the House. The Speaker may vote but usually does time, so that all Members in corridors, cloakrooms, committee not except in case of tie. He may appoint a Speaker pro rooms, or offices, who have been notified of a roll call by signal tempore but not for more than three days at a time without the bells, may come in and vote. consent of the House. Roll calls are ordered sometimes to get a full vote on a meas ure, because of a lack of a quorum, sometimes because Members WBA.T IS .A PARTY LEA.DER7 want to be on record ~n a measure, and sometimes to put the There is a majority leader ~d a minority leader. In talk other side on record against the measure for imaginary political on the floor we do not refer to Republicans and Democrats advantage. The roll calls are published in the CoNGRESSIONAL usually. It is more dignified, it seems, to refer to the majority RECoRD and are sometimes quoted to a .Member's advantage or and the minority. So the majority leader is a Republican and disadvantage, as the case may be. the minority leader is a Democrat. The majority leader has Many bills of lesser im~rtance and some of greater impor the more influence, of course, since he has the majority of the tance are passed without a roll call. This can be done if a membership back of him. . quorum is present when the vote is taken and as many as one The leader is all the title implies. He leads in party debate, fifth of those present do not demand a roll call. This is done. brings forward party program and policies. His advocacy of or often to save time and sometimes to save Members the em opposition to proposed legislation indicates the party preference. barrassment of having to be recorded for or against a measure. The majority leader has much control over what comes up and when, of the legislative program from week to week. When be WHAT IS A QUORUli? makes a motion it is nearly always carried. He usually makes Everybody who ever attended a literary society knows that the motion to adjourn, and it always carries. If some one else, it requires a quorum to do business. In the House of Repre not authorized to do so, makes a motion to adjourn it is nearly sentatives a quorum is a majority of the membership. When always defeated. there are no vacancies in the membership a quorum is 218. WHAT ARE THE CHAPLAIN'S DU'l'IES? There are usually a few vacancies-Members who have died or Both Senate and House has a Chaplain, who offers prayer have resigned and their places yet unfilled. So an actual at the opening of each daily session, usually at 12 o'clock noon. quorum is usually a little under that figure. Much business is B{)tb are eloquent and Godly men. The prayers are printed in transacted without a quorum. But no business of any character, the CONGRESSIONAL REcoRD with the prOCeedings each day. except to adjourn, can be transacted without a quorum present The prayers offered by the Honse Chaplain during the Sixty if any Member objects. All any Member has to do to get a eighth and Sixty-ninth Congresses have been gathered together full House is to arise, address the Speaker, and make the and printed in book form. This book of Chaplains' prayers can point of order that "no quorum is present." The Speaker says, be purchased for 25 cents per copy by addressing the Superin " I will count." If he can not count a majority present. t)fe tendent of Documents, Government Printing Office, Wasll doors are closed, the bells are rung in the corridors and House ington, D. 0. Office Building, and the roll is called. This usually produces a quorum, and business proceeds. . WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE WHIP? When the House is in Committee of the Whole a hundred The whip is not an official position. It is a party designation. Members make a quorum. Both pai'ties have their whip. The whip looks after the member ship of his party, advises them of weekly programs, and en IS LEGISLATION MUCH INFLUilNClDD 'BY ORATOBY7 deavors to have all present when important measures are to be Not much. People back home may pietnre the House as a voted upon. When the vote is apt to be close be checks up, forum for debate upon the merits of the many bills they read find.s out who is out of the city, and advises absentees by wire about. It is in a way, but most of tho debate is as potent as a of the important measure coming up. sham battle. Very few bills that are brought up in the House WHAT IS PRINTED THAT BEST TELLS Oil' THE CONGRESS? for action under general or special rules are defeated. I think more than 95 per cent of bills thus brought up are passed, The Constitution of the United States is the best thing printed despite the forensic display of oratory that may be directed dealing with the Congress. It provides the authority for Con against them, and usually is by the minority or the opposition. gress, specifies its duties, powers, privileges, and much of the Hat·dly 1 amendment in 40 offered to bills on the floor is adopted procedure in both Houses of Congress. The Constitution-is not unless offered or accepted by the com.mittee reporting out the very long, is easily obtainable in any city or town, and should bill up for consideration. Le read occasionally by every citizen. It will surprise you bow Legislation enacted by any Congress ls largely that originat much information it contains. ing with or sponsored by the majority party. Important meas BOW OLD IS THE CON-STITUTION? ures brought up have had thorough serutiny and a favorable It was adopted by the Federal Constitutional Convention in report by a well-organized committee. Tlley have probably had 1787, ratified by the several States, and the new Government strong backing from the country. Some have had the approval provided for by it became fully operative with the inauguration of the steering committee and some have been reported out of George Washington as President of the United States on April by the Rules Committee. Such measures are on the program 30, 1789. for passage and long debates and much oratory can not defeat BOW CAN THE CONSTITUTION BE AMENDED? them. On the other hand, bills that are not slated for passage A proposal to amend the Constitution must be pas ed by do not often get up for action in the House. the Congress by a two-thirds vote of both House and Senate. Committee responsibility is great and committee action in.fiu The proposed amendment then goes to the legislatures of the ential. On most amendments and on most bills a majority of several States and must be ratified by three-fourths of them the Members vote most of the time with the committee-and at the present time by 36 of the 48 States. it is difficult to break into that influence even with fine oratory. HAVE MANY CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS BEEN ADOPTED? DO MEMBERS HAVE SPECIAL SEATS? No; not very many, only 19 in 141 years, and this question In the Senate every Member has a definite seat and a fine brings out some interesting figures and dates. The' first 10 little desk with his name on it. A map of the Senate is printed amendments to the Constitution were proposed by the first Con with the seats numbered and Senators listed so that a visitor in gress in 1789 and were practically agreed to before the adoption the gallery can pick out the different Senators. of the Constitution. The eleventh and twelfth amendments In the House the Member does not have any definite seat. were proposed in 1794 and 1803. He may sit anywhere. There are two tables in the center of Since 1804, when the twelfth amendment was ratified, over a each side of the House for the use of the party leaders. and period of 126 years only 7 amendments have been adopted to the committee chairmen and those interested especially in the Constitution. program of the day. The thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments relate to Formerly when there were fewer Members in the House each abolition of slavery, rights of citizenship, and the franchise. Memher had a desk. But when the number of Members was coming after the Civil War, and were proposed and ratified be increased to 435 in the Sixty-third Congress there was not tween 1865 .an~ 1870. 1930 CONGRESS! ON AL RECORD-HOUSE 10131· Since the Oivil War period only four amendments hd'/e been Senate. Almost invariably the conferees appointed by both ratified. a follows: House and Senate are the two oldest Republican and the oldest Sixteenth amendment provides power for Congress to leyy Democratic Members of the committees reporting out the bills a tax on incomes. Was ratified in 1913. in each House. Conferees have had much to do with the final Seventeenth amendment provides that United States Seria- W!iting of appropriation and tariff bills especially, as well as tors shall be elected by popular vote. Previous to its adoption With many other important bills in which there is a difference Senators had been chosen by State legislatures. Proposed in between House and Senate. Members mav orate and the two 1912 and ratified by 1913. Houses may vote, but the conferees, the old~ boys, bring back the Eighteenth amendment provides for prohibition. Proposed language agreed upon and it will be adopted. 1917 and ratified by 1919. Subsequently ratified by all States Here are some figures which show how thjs thing called in the Union except two. · seniority has worked in the Hou e of Representatives : Nineteenth amendment provides the right of suffrage of Of the 9 Republicans who have served 10 terms-20 years or women. Proposed 1919 and ratified by 1920. more-l is Speaker, 1 is Republican floor leader, and 5 are No amendments adopted to the Constitution haye ever been chairmen of important committee·. These committees are: repealed. Ways and Means, Agriculture, Foreign Affairs, Pensions, and ABE AMEXDMENTS SOAUYIIMES PROPOSED BUT BE.TECTEO BY THE STATES? NaTal Appropriations. Yes; that has occurred several times. Amendments were pro- If we drop down in the clas that ha-re seryed 8 terms-lG posed in 1789 (two), 1810, 1861, and 1924, that were not ratified years or more-we find 47 Republican Members. In this by the States. All of these except the last one are out of date, group we find the Speaker, the Republican 1eader, 19 chairmen of no use now, and time has shown the wisdom of their rejection. of committees, several chairmen of important subcommittees, The one ubmitted to the States in 1924 was known as the 8 on Ways and Means, and 5 on Appropriations Committee. child labor amendment and reads in part, "The Congress shall One hundred and eleven Republicans have served 10 years or have power to limit, regulate, and prohibit the labor of persons longer. Included in thi 111 Members we find 40 committee under 18 year of age." So far five States have ratified this chairmen out of a possible 47, all of the chairmen of the impor amendment and 24 State legislatures have voted to reject it. tant subcommittees of Appropriations and Ways and Means. Since 36 States must ratify it to make it effective, it would ap- All of the Republican steering committee, a majority of the pear that this one also has been lost. Republican members on Rules, Appropriations, Ways and wHo PAYs FOR sPEECHEs MEMBEBs MAIL ouT! Means, Judiciary, Interstate and Foreign Commerce, the Com- The Senator or Congressman pays for the speeches he sends mittee on Committees, and· some of the other committees, the out. They are printed usually at the Government Printing Speaker, the leader. the whip, and practically all who will serve Office and are charged for at cost price, but the cost price is in thi8 Congre on conference committees. about what mine would cost me at my own print 8hop in Canon The Democrats of the House, of cour e, look forward in the City, Colo. A member will often send out another Member's hopes of some time winning a majority in the House of Repre speech on some subject he thinks will be of interest to his con- sentatives, and if that shou1d happen you can take a Congres stituents. Two year~ ago a dozen Members sent out from 1,000 sional Directory and figure out just who would occupy the to 10,000 each of some remarks I made on the subject Unseen places of importance in their party House organization. You Forces that Help to Control Legislation, aud one Pennsyl-rania can pick their chaii·men of committees in adTance, for they Member used 30,000 of my talks on the Business Side of the would undoubtedly be the ranking members of that party on United States Government two different years. the committees, and all have Lad long service. You can point In the fiscal year 19:29 l\lembPrs paid the Public Printer $66,- out 20 men w~o would occupy the pivotal places in the House 490.67 for speeche · and in 1928 the sum was $68,266.19. because of their length of service. WH.Al' OF THlil INFLGE:-!CES OF SENIORITY OR LENGTH OF SERVICE? . Of COurSe, .thiS seniority influence is. not Unique .and. Oiiginal In no other place, perhaps, in this broad land of ours does 1~ the Congr.ess .. It wor~s the s~e m every lPgl~lative body seniority or length of :ervice cut so much figure as it does in m the country fiom the City council up. It .works ~n the local the Congress of the United States. ~odges and. grand lod~es of every order. It IS espec1all! st:ong It is the fir. t discouraging thing the new Member meets up m ~e na~ronal meetl?gs ?f a number of church orgamzations. with and many have been the bitter denunciations of its rule. It 18 particularly noti~ed m the Congress and commen~ed upon Right or wrong, however, the rule of seniority has long been because ~e ~ongress IS ~ore or less a permanent workmg body an important factor in the Congres.<; and no one these days has of ]on~ st~dn~g and repr~sents all of th~ people of our country. the optimism to predict that it will soon be abolished. Legislation rs unque tionably much mfl~enced by the m~n The new Member meets up w·ith the rule of seniority when he who have. se~ved long and occupy these rmp.ortant pl~ces m applies for his first office room. lie gets only what is left th.e orgamzation of th_e Hous~, and greater mfluence m and after all older Members have made their selection . He may With the departments IS certamly felt ?Y those 'Yho have had file on a vacant room in the House Office Building. Another the adv!lntage ~f knowledg~ aJ?-d acquamtance _gamed by yea~s Member who has served before may come along and take it on the JOb: This long service In the House brmgs Members m away from him. He may file on numerous rooms, and see contact With the person~el . of the s~veral departmell:ts, and them go to older Members. Tl1e oldest Member requesting a helps .them t~ be of serVIce m many little and · orne brg ways vacant office room gets it. to the~r ~onshtuents back home. . He meets with it at any official dinner he attends. The new . Sen~orrty o~ length of service :U t~e. House of Repres~n.ta- Member sits near the foot of the table-the older Members in ti-res IS certamly a large factor m giVmg a Member positron the order of their t~rm of service near the head of the table. and influence in. !he Congres and in Washington. Brilliancy The new Member finds the rule of seniority when he applies and unusual . ability, of course, count for much, but ~ith?ut for committee assignmeut. The older Members pick out the ye~rs of service they do .not get one far here. Those diStncts favored places, the new Member must work his way up. W~Ich have returned thetr Members term after term have con- He finds it in the committee room when he attends the first tributed much toward the cause of good government and are meeting of his committee. He finds his name on his place at to-day represented by Member in Congress who have st:1nding the foot of the table. The oldest Member of the committee will and influence in Washington. probab]y be the chairman at the head Of the table. And by Al'PROPRIATION FOR CONSTRUCTION AT THE YOU "TAIN BRANCH OF length of service they rank down to the_newest Members at the THE NATIONAL HOME FOR DISABLED VOLUNTEER SOLDIERS, JOHN- foot. SON CITY, TENN. New Members are welcome and shown every courtesy on the floor. They are never hazed nor snubbed. But there are . orne 1\lr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee years in the beginning of their service when a new Member on Military Affairs, I call up the bill (H. R. 6340) to authorize an must feel that he is hardly in the thick of things--when he must appropriation for construction at the Mountain Branch of the Na think that .he would like to sit even in the committee room, up tional Home for Di abled Volunteer Soldiers, Johnson City, Tenn. uear the middle of the table. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania calls The important places in the House go to the older Members. up a bill, which the Clerk 'fill report by title. Choice committee assignments go to the older Members who '!'he Clerk read the title of the bill desire them. The chairman of every committee is almost with Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that out exception, the longest serving majority Member on th~ com the bill be considered in the House as in Committee of the mittee. The ranking minority 1\fember i , of course, the oldest Whole. on his side. Chairmen of committees have a good dea1 of The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylyania asks influence and get their name on the most important bills. unanimous consent that this bill be considered in the Hou ·e as A great deal of legislation is written by or determined by the in Committee of the Whole. Is there objection? conferees on conference committees between the House and There was no objection. ------10132 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JuNE 5 The Clerk read the bill as follows : Ml'. WURZB.ACH. That is absolutely true. In all cases there Be it enacted, etc., That the Board of Managers of the National mu t be a written contract signed by the contractor and by the Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers is authorized and directed to proper representative of the Government. construct at the Mountain Branch of such home, at Johnson City, Mr. LAGUARDIA. Properly and duly authorized for that Tenn., on land now owned by the United States, a sanitary fireproof purpose. addition to the present hospital with a capacity of 100 beds, barracks. Mr. WURZBACH. Absolutely. 2 sets of quarters for doctors, and such additional construction as may Mr. LA.GUARDIA. So we will not be confronted later on with be necessary, together with the appropriate mechanical equipment, in appropriations to pay for something which some official of the cluding service lines and equipment for heat, light, fuel, water, sewage, War Department did not have the authority to contract for? and gas, roads and t rackage facilities leading thereto for the accommo 1\fr. WURZBACH. I can state that to be the fact. dation of patients, and storage, laundry, and necessary furnJture, equip 1\Ir. TABER. Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment. ment, and accessories as may be approved by the Board of Managers of The SPEAKER. Tbe gentleman from New York offer an the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers. The Secretary of amendment, which the Clerk will report. the Treasury, upon requeEt of the Board of Managers, may have all The Clerk read as follows : architectural and inspection work in connection with such hospital per Amendment offered by Mr. TABER: On page 1, tn line 8, strike out formed by the Office of the Supervising Architect of the Treasury De the word " repealed" and insert in lieu thereof the following: partment, and the proper appropriations of that office may be reim "Amended so that it shall cease to be in effect after June 30, 1931." bursed from this appropriation on that account. SEc. 2. There is hereby authorized to be appropriated not more than The amendment wa agreed to. the sum of $1,000,000 in order to carry out the provisions of section 1 The bill was ordered to be read a third time, was read the of this act. third time, and passed. A motion to reconsider was laid on the table. With the following committee amendment: MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE On page 2, in line 15, strike out •• the sum of $1,000,000 " and in ert A message from the Senate by l\fr. Craven, its principa.l clerk, in lieu thereof "$650,000." announced that the Senate disagrees to the report of the The committee amendment was agreed to. committee of conference on the disagreeing votes of the two The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, Houses on the amendments of the Senate to the bill (H. R. was read the third time, and passed. 2667) entitled "An act to provide revenue, to regulate com A motion to reconsider the vote by ·which the bill was passed merce with foreign countries, to encourage the industries of was laid on the table. the United States, to protect American labor, and for other EXPIRATION DATE OF CERTAIN WAR DEPARTMENT CONTRACTS purposes.'' submitted to the Senate by l\fr. SMoOT on April 29, 1930; further insists upon its amendments specified in the fore Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee going mentioned report upon which the conferees reach~d an on :Military Affairs I call up the bill (S. 4017) to amend the agreement; asks a further conference with the House of Rep act of May 29, 1928, pertaining to certain War Department con resentatives on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on tract by repealing the expiration date of that act. such amendments; and appoints Mr. SMOOT, Mr. WATSON, Mr. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania calls up SHORTRIDGE, Mr. SIMMONS and Mr. HAlmiBON to be the con a bill which the Clerk will report. ferees on the part of the Senate. The Clerk read the bill. as follows : The message also announced that the Senate had passed, Be it enacted, etc., That so much of an act entitled "An act to require without amendment, bills and a joint resolution of the House C<' rtain contracts entered into by the Secretary of War or by officers of the following titles: authorized by him to make them, to be in writing, and for other pur H. R. 851. An act for the relief of Richard Kirchhoff; poses," approved May 29, 1928 (45 Stat. L. 985), as provides that said H. R. 977. An act establishing under the jurisdiction of the act shall cease to be in effect after June 30, 1930, is hereby repealed. Department of Justice a division of the Bureau of Investiga Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker,- ! yield to the gentleman from tion to be known as the Division of Identification and Infor New York [Mr. 'rABER]. · mation; Mr. TABER. Mr. Speaker, H. R. 5568 is under considera H. R.1053. An act for the relief of Jacob Scott; tion, and, as I understand, it is probable it will become a Jaw. H. R. 1155. An act for the relief of Eugene A. Dubrule ; If it CO~STRUOTIO~ AT MILITARY POSTS and agree to the conference asked for by the Senate. 1\Ir. GARNER. 1\Ir. Speaker, I do not want to object, but Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee I would like to have the message that came over from the on l\Iilitary Affairs, I call up the bill (H. R. 11405) to amend an act approved li'ebruary 25, 1V29, entitled "An act to author Senate again read. ize appropriation for construction at military posts, and for The SPEAKER. The C1erk will report the message. other purposes." The Clerk read as follows : The lerk read the title of the bill. Resol~:ed, That the Senate disagree to the report of the committee Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that of conference on the disagreeing votes of the two llouses on the tlli bill may be considered in the House as in Committee of amendments of the Senate to the bill H. R. 2667, entitled: "To provide the Whole. revenue, to regulate commerce with foreign countries, to encourage The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gen- the industries of the nited Stutes, to protect American labor, and tleman from Pennsylvania? for other purposes," submitted to tbe Senate by Mr. SMOOT, on April There was no objection. 29, 1930. The Clerk read the bi1l, as follows : Resolved, That tbe Senate 'further insist upon its amendments B e i t enacted, etc., That the proviso contained in the project " Shreve specified iu the foregoing-mentioned report upon which the conferees port, La. (attack wing)," under secti{)n 3 of the act of February 25, 1929, reached an agreement and ask a further conference with the House entitled "An act to authorize appropriations for construction at mili· of Repre entatives on the disagreeing votes of the two IIouses on such tary po ts, and for other purposes" ( 45 Stat. 1903), is hereby changed amendments. to read a follows: ''Provided, That the Secretary of Wa r is hereby The SPEAKER The gentleman from Oregon ask unani authorized, when directed by the President, to accept in behalf of the mous con..;ent to take from the Speaker's table the bill H. R. United States and without cost to the United States, the title to such 2667, insist on its disagreement to the Senate amendments, aml land as he may d~m necessary or desirable, in the vicinity of Shreve· agree to the conference asked for on the amendments specified. port, La., approximately 25,000 acres, more or less, as a site for an Is there objection? aviation field, subject to such encumbrances as the Secretary of War There was no objection. in his di cretion determines will not interfere with the use of the prop Mr. GARNER. 1\Ir. Speaker, I offer the following motion to erty fo r aviation or military purposes: Pt·o-vided fttrthe1·~ That should instruct the conferees which I send to the desk. it be determined from time to time that any existing oil-pipe lines as The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Texas offers a motion located in, upon, or aero s said lands interfere with the use of said to instruct the conferees, which the Clerk will report. propert y, the Secretary of Wa1· may grant easements for new rights The Clerk read as follows: of way, ubject to such provisions as he deems advisable, for the relo Mr. GAIL~ER submits the following resolution of instructions: cation of any said pipe lines in such other areas of the property as "Ordered, T·hat the House conferees to be appointed to reprt>s«.>nt be determines will not substantially injure the interests of the united States tberein." the House in a conference with the Senate on H. R. 2667 be, and they are hereby, instructed to concur in Senate amendments Nos. 795, 940, Mr. LAGUARDIA. Mr. Speaker, 1 move to strike out the last 967, and 968, the etrect of these instructions being to bind the con word. What is involved iu this-is it for quarters for officers ferees on the part of the House to insist on hides and skins of cnttle and enlisted men? of the bovine species and all manufactures of leather, boots, and sboes Mr. WUllZBACH. This is an entirely new field. The citizens to remain on the free :lliit and to not agree to any duty levied on said are donating 25,000 acres of land. articles." · 10134 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 5 Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, on that motion I move the pre Smith, W. Va. Stone Tucker Williamson vious question. Somers, N. Y. Summers, Wash. Vinson, Ga. . Wilson Sparks Sumners, Tex. Welch, Calif. Woodrum Mr. MAPES. M.r. Speaker, this is an important matter, and Steagall Tarver Whittington Wright I make the point of order that there is no quorum present. NAYS-180 Mr. HAWLEY. Mr. Speaker, I reserve all points of order on Ackerman Ellis Kurtz Seger the motion to instruct. Adkins Englebrigbt Lampert Seiberlin_g Aldrich Evans, Calif. Langley Shaffer. Va. The SPEAKER. The O'entleman from Michigan makes the Allen Fenn Lankford, Va. Short, Mo. point of order that there is no quorum present. Evidently there Arentz Finley Lea Shott, W. Va. is not. Bachmann Fish Leavitt Shreve Bacon Frear Leech Simmons Mr. MAPES. Mr. Speaker, I move a call of the Honse. Baird Freeman Leblbach Simm The motion was agreed to. Barbour Gibson Letts Sinclair The doors were closed. Beedy Gitl'ord Lnce Sloan Beers Granfield McClintock, Ohio Smith, Idaho The Clerk called the roll, and the following Members failed to Blackburn Hadley McCormack, Mass. Snow answer to their names : Bolton Hale McCormick, Ill. Speaks [Roll No. 62] Bowman Hall, Ill. McLaughlin Sproul, Ill. Abernethy Estep Knnz Sirovich Brand, Ohio Hall, Ind. McLeod Stafford Andrew Esterly Lambertson Snell Britten Hall, N.Dak. Magra.dy Stalker Auf der Heide Evans, Mont. Larsen Spearing Brumm Hardy Mapes Strong, Knns. Bacharach Fort Linthicum Sproul, Kans. Buckbee Hawley Martin Strong, Pa. Bankhead Foss McClintic, Okla. Stedman Burdick Hess Menges Swan on Beck Gambrill McKeown Stevenson Butler Hickey Merritt Swick Bloom Gavagan Maa.s Stobbs Cable Hogg Michaelson Swing Bobn Golder Manlove Sullivan, N.Y. Campbell, Pa. Holaday Michener Taber Brigham Graham Mead Sullivan Pa. Carter, Calif. Hooper Miller Taylor, Tenn. Buchanan Greenwood Merritt Taylor, COlo. Carter, Wyo. Hopkins Morgan Temple Celler Gregory Montagne Thatcher Chalmers Houston, Del. .Mouser Thurston Clia e Hale Mooney '.fhompson Chindblom Hudson Murphy ~'ilson Christopherson Hancock Newhall Treadway Clarke, N. Y. Hull, Morton D. Nelson, Me. 'l'imberlake Clancy Hartley Nolan Underhill Cochran, Pa. Hull, William E. Ne!Bon, Wis. Tinkham Clark, Md. Hoffman O'Connor, N.Y. Underwood Cole Irwin Niedringbans Turpin Collins Holaday (}liver, N. Y. Vincent, Mich. Colton Jenkins O'Connor, La. Vestal Connolly Hudspeth Owen Warren Connery Johnson, Ind. Palmer Wainwright Cooke Hull, Tenn. Peavey White Cooper, Ohio Johnson, Nebr. Parker Walker Craddock lgoe Porter Whitehead Cooper, Wis. Johnson, Wash. Perkins Wa on Curry James Pou Williams Coyle Johnston, Mo. Pittinger Watres Davenport Johnson, Ill. Prall Wingo Crail Jonas, N.C. Pratt. Ruth Watson Demp ey Johnson, Ind. Pratt,. Harcourt J. Wolfenden Cramton Kading Purnell Welsh, Pa. Diclun on Kelly · Quay1e Yon Crowther Kahn Ramey, Frank M. Whitley Dominick Kennedy Rayburn Culkin Kearns Ransley Wigglesworth Doutrich Ketcham Rogers Dallinger Kemp Reece Wolv-erton, N.J. Dunbar Kiess Sanders, Tex. Dempsey Kendall, Ky. Reed, N.Y. Wolverton, W.Va. De Priest Kendall, Pa. Reid, Ill. Wood The SPEAKER. Three hundred and twenty-seven Members Douglass, Mass. Kiefner Rowbottom Woodruff have answered to their names, a quorum. Dyer Kinzer Sanders, N.Y. Wurzbach Mr. TILSON: Mr. Speaker, I move to dispense with further Eaton, Colo. Knutson Schafer, Wis. Yates proceedings under the call Eaton, N.J. Korell Sears Zihlman The motion was agreed to. ANSWERED "PRESENT"-1 The doors were opened. Douglas, Ariz. 1\Ir. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, a great many Members are in NOT VOTING-107 Abernethy Doyle Kiess Sanders, Tex. the Chamber now who were not here when the point of no Andrew Dunbar Kunz Selvig quorum wa made. The motion to insb.·uct is for the purpose of AufderHeide Elliott Kvale Sirovich having free hides, free shoes, and free leather. I ask unanimous Bacharach Estep Larsen Snell Bankhead Esterly Linthicum Spearing consent that the Clerk again report the motion so that the mem Beck Evans, Mont. Maas Sproul, Kans. ber hip may have full information about it. Bloom Fort Manlove Stedman The SPEAKER. Without objection, the Clerk will again Bobn Foss Mead Stevenson Brigham Free Montague Stobb report the motion of the gentleman from Texas. Buchanan French Mooney Sullivan, N. Y. There was no objection; and the Clerk again reported Mr. Carley Gambrill Moore, Ohio Sullivan Pa. GARNER's motion to instruct. Celler Garber, Va. Newhall Taylor, Colo. Chase Gavagan Nolan Thatcher Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question Clancy Golder O'Connor, N.Y. Thompson on the motion to instruct. Clark, Md. Graham Oliver, N.Y. Tr(>adway The previous question was ordered. Collins Greenwood Owen Underbill Connolly Hancock Peavey Underwood The SPEAKER. The question is on the motion of the gentle Cooke Hartley Porter Vinct>nt, Mich. man from Texas to instruct the conferees. Corning Hoffman Pou Warren Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and Craddock Hudspeth Prall White Curry Hull, Tenn. Pratt, Harcourt J. Whitehead nays. Darrow lgoe Pritchard Williams The yeas and nays were ordered. Daveuport James Quayle Wingo The que tion was taken; and there were-yeas 140, nays 180, Denison Johnson, Ill. Romjue Wolfenden Dickinson Johnson, S. Dak. Ragon Wyant answered " present" 1, not voting 107. Dominick Kelly Rayburn Yon [Roll No. 63] Dontricb Ketcham Rogers YEAS-140 Allgood Cox Guyer McFadden So the motion was rejected. .Almon Crisp Hall, Miss. McKeown The Clerk announced the following pairs: Andresen Cross Halsey McMillan On the vote: Arnold Crosser Hammer McReynolds Aswell Cullen Hare McSwain Mr. Whitehead (for) with Mr. Bacharach (against). Ayres Davis Hastings Mansfield Mr. Greenwood (for) with Mrs. Rogers (against). Bell DeRouen Hangen Milligan Mr. Romjue (for) with Mr. Fort (against). Black Dickstein Hill, Ala. Montet Mr. Linthicum {for) with Mr. Stobbs (against). Bland Dough ton Hill, Wash. Moore, Ky. Mr. Oliver of New York (for) with Mr. Treadway (against). Blanton Dowell Hoch Moore, Va. Mr. Carley (for) with .Mr. Bobn (against). Box Doxey Hope Morehead Mr. Quayle (for) with Mr. Esterly (against). Boylan Drane Howard Nelson, Mo. Mr. Sullivan of New York (for) with Mr. Ketcham (against). Brand, Ga. Drewry Huddle ton Norton Mr. Stevenson (for) with Mr. Elliott (against). Briggs Driver Hull, Wis. O'Connell Mr. Hull of Tennessee (for) with Mr. Brigham (against). Browne Edwards Jeffers O'Connor, Okla. Mr. O'Connor of New York (for) with Mr. Beck (against). Browning Eslick Johnson, Okla. Oldfield Mr. Williams (for) with Mr. Ki(> s (against). Brunner Fisher Johnson, Tex. Oliver, Ala. Mr. Auf der Heide (for) with Mr. Harcourt J. Pratt (again t). Burtness Fitzgerald Jones, Tex. Palmisano Mr. Ragon (for) with MJ.•. Davenport (against). Busby Fitzpatrick Kennedy Parks Mr. Montague (for) with Mr. Thatcher (against) , Byrns Fuller Kerr Patman Mrs. Owen (for) with Mr. Denison (against). · Campbell, Iowa Fulmer Kincheloe Patterson Mr. Gavagan (for) with Mr. Connolly (against). Canfield Garber, Okla. Kopp · Qnin Mr. Prall (for) with Mr. Golder (afo.'ainst). Cannon Garner LaGuardia Rainey, Henry T. Mr. Wingo (for) with Mr. Clancy \against). Cartwright Garrett Lambertson Ramseyer Mr. Douglas of Arizona (for)' with Mr. Andrew (against). Christgau Gasque Lanham Rams peck Mr. Larsen (for) wltb Mr. Free (against). Christopherson Glover Lankford, Ga. Rankin Mr. Pou (for) with Mr. Underbill (again t). Clague GoldHborongh Lindsay Robinson Mr. Sh'ovtch (for) with Mr. Darrow (against). Clark, N.C. Goodwin Lozier Rutherford Mr. Mooney (for) with Mr. Graham (against). Cochran, Mo. Green Ludlow Sabath Mr. Nolan (for) with Mr. Spearing (against). Collier Gregory McClintic, Okla. Sandlin Mr. Maas (for) with Mr. Foss (against). O&oper, Tenn. Gri1lin McDuffie Schneider Mr. Rayburn (for) with Mr. Moore of Ohio (against). 1930 CONGRESS! ON AL RECORD-HOUSE 10135 Mr. Sanders of Texas (for) with Mr. Manlove (against). record as being irrevocably against the acceptance of such a make Mr. Igoe (for) with Mr. French (against). believe tariff on hides as an excuse to grant substantial protection to Mr. Bankhead (for) with Mr. Snell (against). Mr. Selvig (for) with Mr. Wolfenden ~against). the leather and shoe industries. l\fr. Corning (for) with Mr. Doutrich against). Yours very truly, Mt·. Bloom (for) with Mr. Thompson against), F. E. MOLLIN, Secretary. Mr. Abernethy (for) with Mr. James (against). Mr. Dominick (for) with :.\Ir. Hartley (against). P. S.-I wish to call your attention to the fact that the margin Mr. Kunz (for) with Mr. Hancock (against). of protection given the leather people in the Bouse rates above the lli. Mead (for) with Mr. Clark of Maryland (against). Mr. Warren (for) with Mr. Newhall (against). compensatory duty is practically the same as they would have received Mr. Underwood (for) with Mr. Vincent of Michigan (against). under the revised Oddie amendment, while the proposed 10 per cent :i\lr. Gambrill (for) with Mr. Wbite (against). hide duty is about two-fifths of that carried in the Oddie amendment• •Mr. Collin (for) with Mr. Garber of Virginia (against). :llr. Buchanan (for) with Mr. Curry (against). M. Mr. Evans of Montana (for) with Mr. Porter (against). Until fmtber notice: EXEC"GTIYE COMMITTEE II. G. Babbitt, Flagstaff, Ariz. ; Martin Buggeln, Williams, A.riz. ; 1\fr. Johnson of South Dakota with Mt·. Taylor of Colorado. Mr. Cook with Mr. Celler. J. M. Cartwright, Phoenix, Ariz.; E. Ray Cowden, Phoenix, Ariz.; L. L. Mr. Dunbar with Mr. Stedman. Harmon, Phoenix, Ariz.; A. A. Johns, Prescott, Ariz.; F. P. Moore, 1\fr. Kelly with Mr. Yon. Douglas, Ariz. ; Wayne Thornburg, Phoenix, Ariz. ; Loy Turbeville, Hol Mr. Kvale with Mr. Doyle. Mr. Chase with Mr. Hudspeth. brook, Ariz. ; George A. Clough, San Francisco, Calif. ; P. S. Dorris, Mr. Dickinson with Mr. Pritchard. Alturas, Calif.; R. M. Hagen, San Francisco, Calif.; C. N. Hawkins, Mr. Sullivan of Pennsylvania with Mr. Peavey. Hollister, Calif.; Roland G. Bill, Bakersfield, Calif.; Philip Klipstein, l\Ir. Estep with Mr. Craddock. Bakersfield, Calif. ; J. B. Lubken, Lone Pine, Calif. ; William Russ, Mr. DOUGLAS of Arizona. Mr. Speaker, on the roll call, I Eureka, Calif.; George Sawday, Witch Creek. Calif.; S. D. Sinton, San voted " yea." I ask unanimous consent to withdraw my vote Franci!!ICO, Calif. ; C. C. Tannehill, Los Angeles, Calif. ; N. R. Vail, Los and be recorded as "present," so that I may be paired with the Angeles, Calif.; Ezra K. Baer, Meeker, Colo.; T. B. Benton, Burns, gentleman from Massachusetts, Mr. ANDREW, who would have Colo.; Field Bohart, Colorado Springs, Colo.; J. W. Goss, Avondale, voted "nay" had be been present. Colo. ; R. P. Lamont. jr., Larkspur, Colo. ; R. P . Mergelman, lola, Colo. ; The SPEAKER. Is there objection? D. A. Millett, Denver, Colo. ; R. F. Rockwell, Paonia, Colo. ; A.. A. There was no objection. Smith, Sterling, Colo.; R. E. Vickery, Grand Junction, Colo.; W. S. The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. Whinnery, Lake City, Colo.; F. J. Hagenbarth, Spencer, Idaho; G. H. The SPEAKER. The Chair appoints the following conferees Ball, Raymond, Idaho ; W. J. Williams, M'alad City, Idaho ; Frank W. on the part of the House: Mr. HAWLEY, Mr. TREADWAY, Mr. Harding, Chicago, Ill. ; C. L. Petrie, New Windsor, Ill. ; C. A. Stewart, DACHARAOH, Mr. GAR -ER, and Mr. CoLLIER. Chicago, Ill.; D. D. Casement, Manhattan, Kans. ; Will J. l\filler, To peka, Kans. ; B. B. Price, Reading, Kans. ; C. K. Warren, Three Oaks, TARIFF ON HIDES, LEATHER, BOOTS, AND SHOES Mich.; C. B. Denman, Farmington, Mo.; W. D. Johnson, Kansas City, Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to Mo. ; R. J. Kinzer, Kansas City, Mo. ; W. H. Donald, Melville, Mont.; extend my remarks in the RECORD by inserting two short state J. A. Donovan, Butte, Mont.; G. B. McFarland, Two Dot, M'out.; ment ; one from the American Cattle Raisers' Association and Julian Terrett, Brandenberg, Mont. ; C. J. Abbott, Alliance, Nebr. ; Dan the other from the Texas and Southwest Cattle Raisers' Associ Adamson, Cody, Nebr. ; Edward L. Burke, jr., Genoa, Nebr. ; George ation. Christopher, Valentine, Nebr.; S. P. Delatour, Lewellen, Nebr.; A. R. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the g(m Modisett, Rushville, Nebr. ; R. H. Cowles, Reno, Nev. ; William Dressler, tleman from Texas? .Minden, Nev.; J. B. Garat, White Rock, Nev. ; Vernon Metcalf, Reno, There was no objection. Nev.; William Moffat, Reno, Nev.; J. G. Taylor, Lovelock, Nev.; Wil Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, under leave to extend my re liam B. Wright, Deeth, Nev.; J. C. Brock, Lordsburg, N. l\Iex.; L€e marks I desire to call the attention of l\fembers of the House to Evans, Marquez, N. Mex.; E. G. Hayward, Cimarron, N. Mex.; H. L. the fact that the cattle raisers of the United ~f:ates are not in Hodge, Silver City, N. Mex.; J. A. Lusk, Carlsbad, N. Mex.; W. B . favor of the 10 per cent duty on bides; that they feel that such Merchant, Carlsbad, N. Mex.; A. K. :Mitchell, Albert, N. l\Iex.; B. C. 1·ate is wholly inadequate in view of the indefensible compen Mossman, Ro well, N. Mex.; R. C. Sowder, Carrizozo, N. M'ex.; Oak· satory duties on leather goods and shoes. leigh Thorne, Millbrook, N. Y.; John Leakey, Trotters, N. Dak.; Otto On April 15, shortly after the announcement of the confer Barby, Knowles, Okla.; Ewing Halsell, Vinita, Okla.; Asa Craig, En ence rates on bides and leather goods, I received the following terprise, Oreg.; William Hanley, Burns, Ore~.; James Mossie, Ukiah, letter from the American National Livestock Association, which Oreg.; F. A. Phillips, Baker, Oreg.; 0. M. Plummer, Portland, Oreg.; • represents thousands of livestock raisers : Thomas Jones, :llidland, S. Dak.; Ed. Stenger, Hermosa, S. Dak.; W. W . [American National Live Stock Association. Officers: Victor Culber Bogel, Marfa, Tex. ; Clyde Burnett, Benjamin, Tex. ; T. G. Crosson, son, pre ident, Silver City, N. Mex.; H. G. Boice, first vice president, Marfa, Tex. ; 0. A. Danielson, El Paso, Tex. ; Will Herring, Amarillo, Phoenix, Ariz. ; William Pollman, second vice president, Baker, Oreg.; Tex.; J. D. Jackson, Alpine, Tex.; R. M. Kleberg, Cot•pus Christi, Tex.; George Rus. ell, jr., second vice president, Elko, Nev. ; Hubbard Rus B. L. Kokernot, San Antonio, Tex.; E. C. Lasater, Falfurrias, Tex.; sell, second vice president, Los Angeles, Calif. ; Charles E. Collins, T. B. Maste1·son, Truscott, Tex.; J. T. M'cElroy, El Paso, Tex.; J. D. ·econd vice pre ident, Kit Carson, Colo.; Charles D. Carey, second McGregor, El Paso, Tex.; J. M. Reynolds, Fort Worth, Tex.; W. W. vice president, Cheyenne, Wyo.; F. E. Mallin, secl'etary-treasurer, Turney, El Pa o, Tex.; J. M. Creer, Spanish Fork, Utah; Thomas Red Denver, Colo.; Josephine Ripley, assistant secretary, Denver, Colo.; mond, Salt Lake City, Utah; William Rees, Woodruff, Utah; J. A. Charles E. Blaine, traffic counsel, Phoenix, Ariz. Honorary vice Scorup, Provo, Utah; Eugene Thomas, Walla Walla, Wash.; C. J. presidents : Ike T. Pryor, San Antonio, Tex. ; John B. Kendrick, Belden, Pitchfork, Wyo.; R. M. Faddis, Sheridan, Wyo.; P. W. Jenkins, Sheridan, Wyo. ; Fred B. Bixby", Long Beach, Calif. ; C. M. O'Donel, Big Piney, Wyo.; James P. Jensen, Big Piney, Wyo.; Manville Ken Bell Ranch, N. MeL; L. C. Brite, Marfa, Tex. General council: drick, Sheridan, Wyo.; C. A. Myers, Evanston, Wyo.; John Quealy, H. J. Saxon, Willcox, Ariz.; E. F. Forbes, Marysville, Calif.; W. L. Elk Mountain, Wyo. ; J. B. Wilson, McKinley, Wyo. Curtis, Gunnison, Colo. ; Albert Campbell, New Meadow , Idaho ; A. The telegram refei;red to in the above letter is as follows : Sykes, Ida Grove, Iowa; George Clemow, Jackson, Mont.; Robert DE~TVER, CoLO., April 15, 1980. Graham, A111ance, Nebr. ; H. F. Dnnberg, Minden, Nev. : T. A. lion. J"OHN GARXER, Spencer, Carrizozo, N. Mex. ; Ilerman Oliver, John Day, Oreg.; House of Representatir:es, Washington, D. 0 .: JamPs T. Craig, Bellefourche, S. Dak.; T. D. Hobart, Pampa, Tex.; Please inform committee that cattlemen o! the West do not regard J . .M'. MacFarlane, Salt Lake City, Utah; E. F. Banker, Winthrop, with fa>or attempt to accept in conference House rates on bides, Wash.; J. L. Jordan, Cheyenne, Wyo.] leather. and shoes or modification thereof. Any action now possible DENVER, COLO., A.p1·il· 15, 1980. could not give adequate protection to the livestock industry, and it is Bon. J OH~ GARNER, unfair to give adequate protection to the leather-and-shoe trade and House of Representatives, Washington, D. C. not to us. We believe fair play demands that everything remain on the DEAn MR. GABYER : The inclosed copy of telegram is the one I sent free list until such time as CongTess is willing to treat all alike. you this morning for pre entation to the conference committee, you Cattlemen will not be fooled by announcement to the effect that restor belng the representative on this committee of the largest cattle State ing the Bouse rates is done "in order to give them protection. If any in the Union. thing is done, it will be favorable to the leather-and-shoe interests and We can not help but feel that our chances of ever securing an ade without regard to our interests, and this, as stated above, is most unfair, quate tariff on hides would be materially les ened by the acceptance AMERICA:-. NATlO);.lL LIIE STOCK ASSOCIATIO~, now of the House rates of 10 per cent. Therefore we wish to go on Dy F. E. MOLLIN, Secr·etary. L:XXII-639 10.136 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 5 The Texas. and Southwestern Cattle Raisers' Association ex and therefore best for us and for the shoe and leather industry in pressed the following views in a letter addressed to me on April the united States. 17: Yours very truly, INTERNATIONAL SIIOE Co., [T. D. Hobart, president; J. M. "'est, first vice president; C. C. Slaugh LEWIS B. JACKSON. ter, second vice president; W. E. Connell, treasurer; El. B. Spiller, P. S.-We tan approximately 40,000 hides and skins weekly, and L'l.st secretary and general manager ; Tad Moses, assistant secretary ; and year manufactured 54,730,08:> pairs of shoes. Dayton Moses, attorney] Years ago when certain hoe manufacturers -were endeavor Tl:XAS A."\D SoGTHWESTERK CATTLE IU!SERS' ASSOCIATION, ing to secure inclusion of similar rates in the McKinley bill, Fol't Worth, Te::e., Avrn 11, 11J30. James G. Blaine uttered this note of wa1·ning: Hon. JOHN ~. GAR~""En, The only effect of a shoe tariff will be to protect the Republican Patty House of Re-presentati ,;es, Washiugto1~, D. 0. into speedy retii'ement. J.\IY DEAR Sm : Referring to the hide tariff which if it has not been reached by the conference committee, will be at an early date. It is This is as true to-day as it was then, and the Republican felt generally that the 10 per cent ad yalorem in the House bill is no leaders know there is absolutely no justification for the in tari.Jf at all. It is generally felt that we would be more fa>orable to defensible rates they are granting a few manufacturers of shoes free hide , free leather, and free shoes for the schedules which are car and leather goods. ried in the IIou e bill which provide protective duties for leather and I desire to call the attention of the House to the following shoes und simply a gesture of protection on hides. figures furnished by the Tariff Commission to the member of The feeling generally is that if there is no protective duty on hides, the conference committee, and yet, in face of the fact that the then the producers of hides should not be required to buy shoes and Tariff Commission has made evident the injustice and di! - leather on a protectiYe basis. crimination contained in the~ e rate , they were agreed upon by Yours rery truly, the majority members: E. B. SPILLER, Secretary. Ratts of dutv on l~her neussarv to compmsate for a 10 per ant duty on Mdts, and exau protectton ocer a·nd above compenmtory duty gi!:en in the tariff bill OFFICEUS AKD EXECUTIVE COlL\liTTEE, TEXAS AND SOUTIIWESTERN CATTLE 1 RA.ISEBS ASSOCIATIOS Classification Campen- Excess satory duty duty given Officers: T. D. Hobart, president, Pampa, Tex.; J. M. West, first vice pre ident, Houston, Tex.; C. C. Slaughter, second vice president, Dallas, Tex.; James Callan, honorary vice p:·e ident, Menard, Tex.; J. D. Jack- Per ctnl Per cent on, honorary vice presitlent, Alpine, Tex.; R. J. Kleberg, honorary vice 7.07 5.43 3. 93 8.57 president, Kingsville, Tex. ; R. l\1. Kleberg, honorary vice president, 5. 75 6. 75 Corpus Christi, Tex. ; H. L. Kokernot, honorary vice president, San 3. 72 16.28 Antonio, Tex.; Crrus B. Lucas, honorary vice president, Berclair, Tex.; 5.88 14.12 10.10 ~- 8l Ed C. La ater, honorary vice president, Falfurrias, Tex. ; A. M. McFad 6.04 8.96 din, honorary vice president. Victoria, Tex. ; l\Iurdo Mac·kenzie, honorary 7.39 7.61 vice pre ·ident, Denver, Colo. ; Ike T. Pryor, honorary vice pre ·ident, San Antonio, Tex. ; W. W. Turney. honorary vice president, El Paso, TO P:&OTIDF) FOR 6UMMARY PROSECUTION OF PETrY OFFEN ES Tex.; W. E. Connell, treasuret', Fol't ·worth, Tex. ; E. B. Spiller, secre tary and general manager, Fort Worth, Tex.; Tad MoseR, assistant :Mr. WILLIA:M E. HULL. Mr. Speaker, I a:k unanimom; con secretary, 1!"'ort Worth, Tex.; Dayton Moses, attorney, Fort Worth, Tex. sent to extend my own remarks in the RECORD on the !Jill H. H.. 9937. Executi>e committee: S. C. .Arnett, Lubbock, Tex. ; H. G. Barnard, Tul a. Okla.; J. L. Borroum, Cedar Vale, Ksms.; E. H. Brainard, Cana The SPEAKER. I there objection? dian. Tex.; L. . Brite, Marfa, Tex.; W. W. Brun on, Midland, Tex.; There -was no objection. C. B. Burnett, Benjamin, Tex.; J. G. Childers, Temple, Tex.; E. W. Mr. WILLIAM E. IIULL. Mr. Speaker, it is my !Jelief thnt Clark, Port Worth, Tex. ; W. T. Coble, Amarillo, Tex. ; George R. Cun· a large percentage of the commis ·ioners are incompetent of rad, Amarillo, Tex.; R. J. Cook, Beeville, Tex.; W. l\1. Doughty, Edin holding court and written almost in letters of light, is this single sentence, embodying than the forgiveness of peace makers. With a heavy heart and a break the experience and lesson of the ages, " The foundation of every state ing physique he journeyed bome-defea ted. is the education of its youth." A broken figure disappears alone I know not whose tongue first uttered, or whose pen first traced these Down the dark roadway of the overthrown ; words, but long before the foundation of that great building was laid, Yet is there time ere fades the twilight chill or its construction dreamed of, our fathers planted on the bleak coast For one more volley ! Hasten, ye who will, of Massachusetts a Commonwealth whose foundations were liberty and To seize on stick and shard, and burl them after learning, where every child was blessed with instruction and every man The bent wayfarer ! All your taunting laughter was clothed with citizenship ; where popular sovereignty rested on the Will fall unanswered; naught will be hurl back fu·m basis of popular education. Out of that almost divine educational Who plods in silence down the fated track. inspiration came Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and our present vast and complex educational institutions--both secular and religious-which have Justice to the dead, the highest obligation that devolves upon the given to us and to the world men of calm and clear judgment, broad living, demands the declaration that in all his dealings with the prob vision, anti high ideals. Statesmen of keen and farseeing intellect, deep lems of treaty and future world peace the President was content in sympathy, and noble character. Public men blessed with intense and mind, justified in his conscience, immovable in his conclusions. genuine patriotism. Numbered among this galaxy of great men was In truth we could say that Woodrow Wil on submitted his case when Woodrow Wilson-the philosopher, the educator, the statesman, the be left the White IIouse in 1921. During the remaining years of his idealist. life be was doomed to weary week~ of torture and silence, but there Woodrow Wilson was born at Staunton, Va., 1856, of a God-fearing, was still life enough in that good friend of peace, and his high ambi Scotch p:-.rentage, the po ses or of a lineage claimed by only few Ameri tion commanded him to become the lover of all mankind. His idealism, can . lie grew from the frailty of youth to the strength of manhood that gripped the heart of humanity, secured for him not only a scholar's an1idst tho e gentle and simple folk of the South, under the towering gra;-e, a wurrior·s grave, a statesman's grave, but also the grave of a pines of Georgia. At the age of 19 he entered Princeton University, friend of peace and righteousness and humanity. In public utterance and during four years of diligent study. proved himself to be a student, and world action Woodrow Wilson never knew surrender; yet the hour a leader of men, and a Christian gentleman. Upon graduation he was of one surrender must come to all, and dramatic as were the scenes summoned by the trustees of Wesleyan and later Princeton University of his troubled life so were those at his death. With unfaltering as an active professor. As a member of the faculty of these institutiona tenderne s he took leave of life. With simple resignation be bowed he proved him elf a political philosopher-noted for his calm judgment, to the divine decree. On his record he was willing to depart to eternity, practical wisdom, sound and genuine scholarship. leaving it to the followers who survi>ed to carry on the battle for which Because of these qualities, Woodrow Wilson, in 1902, was called he gave his life. to the presidency of his alma mater. As president of Princeton Uni Let us remember that George Washington was instrumental in the versity he demonstrated to the world that he was a great liberal and foundation of this Republic; that Abraham Lincoln preserved the Union a progressive educator. Within the walls of Princeton he found that and molded the several States into a ingle sovereignty; but amid the education and student life were tyrannized over and blasted by an intel carnage of the last international conflict, while other state mm of the lectual aristocracy of professors and students; and by a conservative, world were dreaming of imperiali ·m, national power, and· tPrritorial almost reactionary, policy of the trustees. Unable to break through aggrandizement at the expense of their victims, Woodrow Wilson was these barriers of caste and tradition, he appealed over the beads of formulating a plan by which the whole world might be saved from elf trustees and resisting professors to the public tribunal for a more destruction, military autocracy, and in which permanent peace, inter liberal, more democratic, and more progressive American univer~ity life. national justice, and the brotherhood of mankind should reign supreme. In 1910 fate summoned Wilson from the presidency of Princeton to Woodrow Wilson tried to do something which is beyond the power of the Governor hip of New Jersey. He entered that office with a feeling any single person. He tried to correct all the ills of foreign statecraft, that it was an adventure well worth his enthusiasm, his dignity, and accumulated in centuries anu sharpened by national instincts and ani his principles. Ile concentrated all his talents into the requirements mosities. He could not, and no one per on could come down from a of his office, with erene confidence and firm conviction that a person mountain top and give laws t(l all the people. l\Ien say he faiied. He should give all that he bas for the faithful performance of his duties as failed not. We are the ones who failed. America failed, the America a public servant. With this as the keynote of his actions be reformed which, if it had stood by him as he stood for America, might have ~ude the election laws of New Jersey, authorized citief! to adopt the com him the immediate victor over every European conspiracy and American mission form of government, and sponsored a change in the corporation cabal. We failed, and we failed because we, his fellow Americn.ns, were laws. llis every action exemplified that statesmanship of high ideals, unequal to his vision; because we did not rise to"ether to the mountain broad vision, and clear judgment. heights to w~ch he summoned, to which he ch:_llenged. Hi tory will Time had now prepared a stage for a stirring political drama, and in not forget his name. God give it that history will compassionately 1912 Roosevelt, Taft, and Wilson came together upon this stage to embalm in oblivion the names and the deeds of those who, to punish fight through the bittt>rness of a presidential campaign. Party preju your and my leader, the hope bringer of humanity, struck him down dice caused a separation between Roosevelt and Taft. Triumphantly and broke the heart of the world. between them marched Woodrow Wilson to the greatest office in the Whether we record that failure to Wilson or to America, we , ball power of the American people to grant. never forget that he per onified America. He gave utterance to the Dramatic were the scenes of those eight troubled years wherein be aspirations of humanity which h!!ld the attention of all the earth and served the United States as its Chief Executive, and the experiences made. Amer~ca a new and enl~rged influence in the destiny of mankind. of his presidential life did not yield him pleasure, or satisfaction. He By his _mag1c appeal to the deepest sensibilities of all human life, which grasped the helm of office with the hand of a master. His di posi were given the wings of the morning by the unprecedented propaganda tion of business was orderly and rapid. His power of analysis and of the Allies, Wilson principles quickly spread to the uttermost parts his skill of classification enabled him to dispatch a vast mass of detail of the earth. There the innate vitality of the ideals caused them to with sin~ar promptne s and ease. Through a wise program of finan take root and to grow. .As no other wholly human man bas ever done cial legislation he gave to us, upon his entrance into office, the Federal before, Woodrow Wilson voiced the basic instincts and desires of the re erve bill, which stabilized the economic condition of the Nation, race. and withheld us from the clutches of a financial panic. The impress be left upon American thinking will condnue to be felt In 1914, the ages of history were closed upon peace, and blackened ~ the hear~s of his countrymen fore>er. His life of tremendous sig by that bloody conflict of steel, shot, and shell, which came forth from n~cance will never fade from the memory of posterity. His work the heart of Europe. Should America enter that conflict of nations? Will never be lost to the stirred emotions of mankind. He died sur Should America take up her tlag and follow the rest of the world? Should rounded by loved ones and sympathetic friends. Gently, silentl;, the America place her national honor, power, and prestige against the love of a gt·eat people bore the pale suiferer to his final resting place arrayed forces of autocracy? These were the questions in the minds in St. Alban's Cathedral. But let us think that his dying eyes read a of all civilized people. These were the questions answered by Wood mystic meaning which only the rapt and parting soul may know. Let row Wilson, when, in 1917, with patience and firmness he handled us believe that in the silence of the receding world he beard the great America's entrance into that war, refusing to act until he had the waves breaking on a farther shore and felt already upon his wa ted backing of a united country. When finally in, be made it clear that brow the breath of the eternal morning. America's purpose in this conflict of nations was to promote the cause CONSTRUCTION AT MILITARY POSTS of liberty-to make the world safe for democracy. Through 18 months we sacrificed the youth of our manhood and the wealth of our Nation :Mr. RANSLEY. :Mr. Speaker, when we were forced to sus in that struggle against the Triple Alliance, which was laying pros pend we were considering the bill H. R. 11045. I now yield to trate before it the peoples of ancient Europe. the gentleman from Kew York [:Mr. TABER]. At last the goal was near, the cause was won, ·the deadly conflict bad 1.\Ir. TABER. 1.\Ir. Speaker, may I ask the gentleman from ceased. The treaty of Versailles summoned our war President to Paris, Pennsylvania if I am correct in understanding that the Oon and his reward was a treaty that reflected the anger of nations rather gress has already accepted this field, and that this bill is neces- '10138 CONGR.ESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 5 sary only on account of a defect in the title? Thi is already On page 1, line 7, after the word " of" at the beginning of the line, in the property? insert the word "necessary." l\Ir. RANSLEY. Yes. The SPEAKER. The que··tion is on agreeing to the com- Mr. BARBOUR. That is the ouly reason for the enactment mittee amendments. · of thi bill? The committee amendments were agreed to. l\1r. RANSLEY. Ye . Mr. STAFFORD. l\Ir. Spenker, I offer a committee amend :\Ir. TABER. It i not doing something new? It simply ment. correcting n technicality? The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wi con in [1\Ir. 'TAF l\Ir. RA.... ~SLEY. Yes. FORD] offer an amendment, which the Clerk '\Vill re11ort. l\Ir. HILL of Alabama. It i just to correct a technicality. The Clerk read a follows: l\Ir. RANSLEY. Ye . The bill was ordered to be engro~seu and read a third time, Amendment by Mr. STAFFORD fo1· the committee: Page 1, line 3, trike wa · read the third time, and passed. out "$50,000 " and insert in lieu thereof ".,30,000." On motion of l\Ir. RANSLEY, a motion to reconsiUer the last Mr. TABER. l\1r. Speaker, it is my under taniling that thi.' vote wns laid on the table. bill is ab olutely unneces ary; that the authority already exist.'~, VETERINARY CORPS OF THE REGuLAR ARMY in new of the fact that this i · an e tablished military park anu there are appropriation for additional lands anu improve ::\Ir. RANSLEY. Mr. peaker, I am directed by the Com- ments within the park. Per onally it eem to me, in view of mittee on Military Affair to cnll up the bill H. R. 2755. • that ituation, the bill shoulU not be taken up. Tlw SPEAKER. The Clerk will report it by title. l\lr. :McSWAIN. l\Ir. ~peaker, it i our tmder tanding from The Clerk read a follows : the report of the War Department and from the re110rt that A bill (H. R. 2755) to increase. the efficiency of the \eterinary Corps have come to the gentleman representing that di h·ict, the eli - of the Regular Army. tinguisheu Major STEm.tAN, that this authority will haYe to be ~Ir. RA.l'{SLEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that conferred in order to accomplish the desirable re ult. the bill be considered in the Hou::-:e as in Committee of the I suppo e the gentlemen have noticed from the report that it Whole. is propo:;;ed to celebrate the seqnicentennial of thi very impor The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of tlte gen- tant battle of the Revolutionary War on the 15th of March, tlf:'man from Pennsylvania? 1931. The nature of the oil i such that at that ea on of the There was no objection. year, after the winter rains and the melting of the now, they The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the bill. can not get about over that battle field unle s these roads aTe The Clerk read as follow : m-faced with some sort of cheap sudacing at least Mr. BARBOUR. Will the gentleman yield? Be it enacted, etc., That for purposes of promotion, longevity pay, :Mr. ~fcSW AU\. I yieltl. and retirement there shaH be credited to officers ot the Veterinary Corps :Mr. BARBOUR. In the report of the Secretary of War it i ~ all full-time service rendered by them as veterinarians in the Quarter rna ter Department, Cavalry, or Field Artillery prior to June 3, 1!)16. stated that- SEC. 2. 1.'he provisions of this act shall become effective upon its Sections 3 and 5 of the act of March ~. 1917, give the Secretary ot pa ~age, and all laws and parts of laws which are inconsistent here War ample authority to acquire additional land, repair the roads, and with or are in conflict with any of the prov.isions hereof are hereby to make such other improvemrnts at the park a may be neces~ary. repealed as of that date. He sa~' S further : Mr. BARBOUR. Mr. Speaker, I move to strike out the last Suitable quarters already exist for the foreman. word. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from California mo1es to Then llis report concludes with the.,e word~ : strike out the last word. In view of the fact outlined aboYe, disapproval of tbe bill i · recom 1\lr. BARBOUR. Mr. Speaker, I am aclrtsed that this whole mended. rna tter is covered by section 10 of the national defense act, If authority already exist for the doing of all tlte e things, which provides that officers of the Veterinary Corps "ball be and the War Department disappro\"e of this particular bill, go,erned by the act of June 3, 1916. and there i no nece "....ity for passing the bill anyway, why 1\Ir. RANSLEY. I think the gentleman will find that that encumber the statutes? is for the Ca1alry and Field Artillery. The present bill co1ers Mr. McSW AL""l. Of courBe, I am not the sponsor of tlte bill, only the Quartermaster Corp , to extend to tl'le QuartermaRter but I assume that the gentleman ha exhausted all of his reme Corp~. dies outside of special authority and hns fOlmd that the Bureau l\fr. TABER. And section 2 wn not included in the national of the Budget or somebody would not make the recommendation defense act? due to the absence of authority. Mr. RAXSLEY. No. l\Ir. BAHBOUR. Thi is not an effort or attempt to force The bill was oruered to be engrossed and read a th:ru time, the band of the Budget, i it? was read the third time, and passed. 1\lr. McSWAIN. I do not know tltat it is. It can not be A motion to reconsiUer the la t 10te was laid on the table. done. GUTI..FORD COURTHOU E -.\.TIO~..!.L MILITARY PARK Mr. BARBOUR. This is not the way to handle it. The Guil l\Ir. RANSLEY. Mr. S11eaker, I call up the bill H. R. '1496. ford Courthouse National Park i an established national mili The SPEAKER. 'The Clerk will report the bill by title. tary .park. The Committee on 1\lilitary Affairs brought in a bill The Clerk read a follow : authorizing the creation of that park, and the bill was pa eel by the House and appropriation have been made. Our com A bill (H. R. 74!)6) making an appropriation for improvements at mittee has been told that the necessary amount to e tablL,h and the Guilford Courthouse National 1Iilitary Park. create tllat park has been appropriated. There is an appropria 1\Ir. RANSLEY. Mr. Spenker, I ask unanimous consent to tion tlli year for an amount for maintenance and upkeep. have the bill con~idered in the Hou. e as in Committee of the Here is an appropriation to acquire additional land<;:, to im Whole. prove road , and to do other thing there, all of which i 'l'he SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the authorized in the original act creating the park. Then, in addi gentleman from Penn ylnmia? tion to that, $50,000 i authorized to be appropriated for thi , There was no object:on. and it seem. to me it is going farther than i · neces ary, and 'l'he SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the bill. farther than in good judgment we should go. The Clerk read as follow : Mr. l\IcSW AIN. The gentleman will realize that $50,000 wa Be it enacted, etc., That the urn of '50,000 is hereby authorized to in contemplation of the project to build a new house. That has be appropriated, to be expended under the direction of the Secretary been stricken out by the committee and the amount has been of War in the erection of a horne for the superintendent, for the pur reduced propol·tionately to $30,000, which is estimated to be the chase of additional land, urfacing of roads, and all other necessary cost of buying some additional land near the entrance, which improvements at Guilford Courthouse National Military Park estab is desirable because of its historic association, and to have some lished by act of Congress app1·oved March 2, 1917. sort of cheap surfacing, like gravel and tar, on the e roads. Mr. BARBOUR. The Secretary of War says he has ample With committee amendments as follows: authority now to do· that. Page 1, line 3, after the figures " '50.000," insert the words " or so Mr. 1\.icSW AIN. But the Secretary of War can not pas upon much thereof as may be necessary." the rules of the House with reference to the authority. If th.lli On page 1, line 5, after 1he word ·• war·," strike out the words "in bill fails and your committee should bring in a propo ed appro the erection of a home for tbe superintendent.'' pl'iation and some one should make a point of order, it would 1930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE. 10139 avail us very little to ay that the Secretary of War said it at Guilford Courthouse National Military Park, established by act was not necessary. of Congress approved March 2, 1917. Mr. BARBOUR. No; it would not be subject to a point of The amendment was agreed to. order on that ground, because the authority for the appropria The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, tion exists in the act of March 2, 1917. was read the third time, and passed. Mr. WURZBACH. Will the gentleman yield? A motion to reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed Mr. McSWAIN. I yield. was laid on the table. Mr. WURZBACH. Although it may be. a fact that the Sec .ACQUISITION OF LAND FOR .AER.IAL BOMBING RANGE PURPOSES AT retary of War ha general authority under the act to which the KELLY FIELD, TEX. gentleman has referred-- The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Com Mr. BARBOUR. :Mr. Speaker, I a k unanimous consent to mittee on Military Affairs I call up House bill 12263, to author proceed for five additional minutes. ize the acquisition of 1,000 acres of land, more or less, for aerial The SPEAKER. Without objection, it is so ordered. bombing range purpo es at Kelly Field, Tex., and in settlement There was no objection. of certain damage claims, and I ask unanimous consent that Mr. BARBOUR. I yield to the gentleman from Texas. the bill be considered in the House as in Committee of the Mr. WURZBACH. A I stated, although the Secretary of Whole. War has general authorization to do the thing that is ought to The SPEAKER-. The gentleman from Wisconsin calls up a be done in this bill, the purpose of this bill is to direct the Sec bill, which the Clerk will report by title. retary of War to make the particular expenditure mentioned in The Clerk read the title of the bill. this bill. Otherwi e the Secretary of War may not exercise The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisconsin asks unani the authority which he has. I think that is the real purpose of mous consent that the bill be considered in the House ae in this bill. Committee of the Whole. Is there objection? Mr. BARBOUR. Why repeat the act which we have already There was no objection. passed, which is ample and sufficient in every way to authorize The Clerk read the bill, as follows : this? This matter ought to go to the Committee on Appropria Be it enacted, etc.~ That the Secretary of War be, and he is hereby, tions in the regular way, with estimates from the Bureau of the authorized to acquire by condemnation the fee title to 1,000 acres of Budget, and be considered as any authorized appropriation is land, more or less, situate in Bexar County, State of Texas, for aerial considered. The only purpose that I can ee in this action is to bombing range purposes at Kelly Field, and thus settle certain damage indicate to the Bureau of the Budget that it should do something claims, and the Attorney General is hereby directed to institute con that it has nof yet been willing to do. demnation proceedings for that purpose. Mr. WURZBACH. Well, to suggest to the Bureau of the SEC. 2. There is hereby authorized to be appropriated such sum as Budget or to the Appropriations Committee. may be necessary to carry out the provisions of this act. Mr. DOUGHTON. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. BARBOUR. I yield. With the following committee amencfments: Mr. DOUGHTON. It is possible that the Secretary of War In line 4, on page 1, strike out the word " condemnation " and insert bas authority under existing law to do the work which is " purchase for a sum not exceeding $80,000." mentioned in this bill, but it has not been provided for. They In line 8, after the word " and," insert the words " failing to acquire have not been able, so far, to get the relief desired. Of the same within this limit of cost." course, it is not an effort to combat the Budget, but this bill Page 2, line 1, strike out the word " that " and insert the word was introduced by Major STEDMAN. I would not ask its con- "the." lderation as a matter of entiment, but in all probability it is Page 2, line 2, insert after the word " purpose " the words " of the last legislative act of his life. It is right at his home, in acquiring said land." tbe suburbs of Greensboro, N. C. The sesquicentennial is to Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman be held on the 15th of March, 1931, to celebrate the important from Texas [Mr. WURZBACH], the author of the bill. Battle of Guilford Courthouse. Mr. TABER. I would like to ask a few questions. What is · Mr. BARBOUR. Is it going to take $50,000 to celebrate the the necessity for this addition to Kelly Field? :Battle of Guilford Courthouse? Mr. WURZBACH. Well, it is an absolute necessity, as st..'l.ted Mr. DOUGHTON. There is a committee amendment reduc by the Secretary of War and by the Chief of the Air Service. ing it to $30,000. The roads are only surfaced with top oil, As a matter of fact, this land llas been used by the Government and they are not adequate to take care of the necessary require for that purpo e under a lease and renewals of leases since ment for holding that sesquicentennial. early in 1923. The last lease expired in September, 1926. In Mr. BARBOUR. But does not the gentleman from North each one of the leases this provision was carried : Carolina agree that the Secretary of War now has all of thta authority with relation to this project that he could pos ibly And the Government shall before the expiration of this lease or re· have if this bill were passed? newal thereof restore the premises to a normal condition, as at the Mr. DOUGHTON. Possibly he has; but this bill was intro time of entering upon the same under this lease, and shall remove all duced and referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. A unexploded shells or bombs. subcommittee was appointed, headed by the gentlewoman from This land was used for two or three years as a bombing California [Mrs. KAHN]. That subcommittee gave the matter field. The gentleman, I am sure, knows that at Kelly Field careful conrideration, and then it was favorably reported by the and at San Antonio the Army has probably the greatest con full committee. I hope the gentleman will. let this bill pass, centration of military aviation in the United States, and mani because the amount carried is only a bagatelle. I will say to festly they are required to have land for bombing purposes. my colleague that Major STEDMAN, the author of the bill, is These 1,000 acres of land have a great many buried duds and unable to be here, and probably he will never be here to present unexploded bombs. As a matter of fact, a number of indi any other legislative matter. While it is a meritorious matter, viduals have been very severely injured by picking up these there is some sentiment connected with it. bombs. I happen to have before me a clipping from a San The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the amend Antonio paper showing where a soldier, a resident of Oklahoma, ment offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin. who was stationed at Kelly Field, in passing over this land The amendment was agreed to. picked up one of these bombs, not knowing what it was, and Mr. McSWAIN. Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment in the was severely injured and later died from his injuries. nature of a sub titute. Mr. TABER. How much land have we altogether at this The SPEAKER. The gentleman from South Carolina offers field, land which the Government now owns? an amendment, which the Clerk will report. Mr. WURZBACH. The gentleman means at Kelly Field 7 The Clerk read as follows : .Mr. TABER. Yes. Amendment offered by Mr. McSwAIN: In Une 3, strike out "sum of Mr. WURZBACH. I think they ha\e about 1,700 acres of $50,000, or so much thereof as may be necessary." land. In line 4, strike out " be appropriated, to be." Mr. TABER. Is not that enough to meet the situation? In line 5, strike out the words " expended under the direction of the Mr. WURZBACH. oh, no. That land is occupied with the Secretary of War in the erection of a home for the BUperintendent." barracks and hangars, and it is used for landing purposes and other purposes, including training of cadets. It could not be So that the bill will read: used for bombing purposes. Such a use would be absolutely That the Secretary of War is hereby authorized to expend such sum impossible. I was just going to state that under the written as may hereafter be appropriated for the purchase Of necessary addi contract made with the lessors of this property, the . present tional land, surfacing of roads, and all other necessary improvement& owners-the Government-could be required to specifically per- 10140 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 5 form it contr·act, namely, to remov-e the unexploded bom!Js, Mr. LAGUARDIA. The gentleman is correct. The gentleman and it was stated before our committee--and we had very com will recall that not only in the discussion of the 5-year program plete heal'ings-it is impossible tb remove them. but right after the war, when the whole question of aviation 1\lr. TABER. What about the value of this land? was a live one here in the House, the one justification for the Mr. WURZBACH. I think the land is worth about $150 an establishment of Kelly Field, aside from the favorable topog acre. I stated to the committee when we had hearings I did raphy of the land, was that land was inexpensi'Ve down there not think it would be po sible to purchase the land at $80 and we could get as much land as we wanted. an acre. and therefore it was provided that the land should be Mr. WURZBACH. When was that representation made? acquired in condemnation proceedings, if it could not be ac Tbat bas never been given as one of the considerations in the quired by pru'cha.,e. selection of that site as a flying field, so far as I know; and I l\Ir. LAGUARDIA. Did the gentleman say it was a soldier think the gentleman i::; urmising when be makes that statement. who picked up n bomb and commenced monkeying with it? l\11'. LAGUARDIA. Oh, I served on the Military Affairs Com Mr. Wu"RZBACH. Yes; and I have a clipping from the mittee right after the war. newspaper here giving the details. ' Mr. WURZBACH. Let me say to the gentleman that it does Mr. LAGUARDIA. If he had erved in my command I not make a great deal of difference so far as the merits of this would have court-martialed him. That boy mu t have been case are concerned-- well trained a a soldier. The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from New York Mr. STAFFORD. I did not think the gentleman from New has expired. York was such a evere and cruel disciplinarian. Mr. LAGUARDIA. l\Ir. Speaker, I ask unanimom; consent to l\Ir. LAGUARDIA. A soldier picking up a bomb and playing speak for five minutes more. "ith it! The SPEAKER. Is there objection? The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from Texas There was no objection. has expired. l\Ir. WURZBACH. As to whether this land was properly se Mr. LAGUARDIA. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the lected or whether the land is too valuable; the truth of it is committee amendment. and this is not controverted-the Government now, under its I am ure the land leased by the Go\ernment for a bombing written contract of lease, is obligated to the present owners of field i not good agricultural or valuable land, because that is the land in damages equal to the actual value of the land, so not the kind of land that any prudent person would go out that if the Go\ernment does not avail itself of the opportunity . and leaLe for that purpose. to purchase this land at a fair price, to be determined in con Mr. WURZBACH. By my silence, I do not mean to agree demnation proceedings, these parties will bring suit in the that thi is not good agricultural land. Court of Claims. They are already talking of doing this, and, l\Ir. LAGUARDIA. I am not going to commit the gentle in fact, a lawyer here in Washington is ready to bring a suit man by his silence. in the Court of Claims. I want to put the gentleman on notice Land for this purpo e rloes not have to be graded like an as to what may happen. I have, of course, no personal interest a\iation field. The gentleman will concede that. in the pas age of this bill. If this land is not taken for this Mr. WURZBACH. Yes. purpose, under the bill the claimants, under their written guar Mr. LAGUARDIA. The purpose is to :fly over it and drop anty that this land would be returned to them in the same bombs on a target. I am not an ex.'llert on land value in the condition that it was in-- State of Texas, and far be it from me to underrate the value 1\Ir. BARBOUR. Was that guaranty authorized by act of of the lands, but I submit that a compari on of the prices paid Congress? for land for this pm·pose or the kind of land that is usually Mr. WURZBACH. Let me finish my statement. They will . acquired for target ranges is not land valued at $80 an acre. nece arily in the Court of Claims reco\er damages against the I am not comparing it with values in Manhattan where we Government, and the measure of damages, of course, would be buy by the foot, but $80 an acre, I submit to all my friends the difference between the value of the land as it would be coming from rural di tricts, is high for land when it is pur without buried bombs and the value of the land with buried chased as acreage; and, certainly, if it is worth that much, bombs. we ·hould not ha\e a bombing field there. No one could purcba e this land, no one could use this land Mr. STA]~FORD. The bombing field is established there, except the Government for this particular purpo e, namely, as if the gentleman will permit, and we are seeking to make it a bombing field. So what would be the inevitable result? The available and more serviceable by acquiring adjoining lands. claimants would recover the same amount of damages that the Mr. LAGUARDIA. I understand that, but I think the price is Gowrnment might purchase the land for under this bill. too bigb. Mr. TABER Will the gentleman yield? Does the gentle Mr. STAFFORD. The gentleman may qualify as a city indus man know how much the Government paid for the 1,700 acres trialist, but, certainly, he can not qualify as an agriculturist originally acquired? . when he says that $80 an acre for land in these parts is high. Mr. WURZBACH. No; that was a number of years ago. Mr. LAGUARDIA. Then permit me to say that if the land but I am quite certain that they paid at least $150 an acre. is worth $80 an acre we should not buy that kind of land for a This land is quite close to the city of San Antonio. bombing field. Mr. TABER. It seems to me it is a pertinent inquiry as to 1\lr. STAFFORD. But we have established there certain how much the other land cost. valuable buildings-- Mr. 'VURZBACH. The gentleman loses sight of the fact Mr. LAGUAHDIA. Not on this field. that San Antonio is a city of over 250,000 inhabitant , and Mr. \VURZBACH. Not on this land, but at Kelly Field. Kelly Field is very close to the city limits. Mr. STAFFORD. Yes; at Kelly Field, and this land is tribu- Mr. TABER. How close? tary and most essential for the u e of Kelly Field, Mr. WURZBAC.a. There are houses within a quarter of a l\lr. LAGUARDIA. If the gentleman from Wisconsin will mile-the city is monng in that direction. permit, a bombing field does not have to be adjacent to the 1\Ir. TABER. In the direction of Kelly Field? aviation field. I went through a bombing school, and we fiew Mr. WURZBACH. No; the bombing field is on the opposite ~ about 30 or 40 minutes from the aviation field where we were sicle of Kelly Field from the city. stationed before we reached the bombing field. It was way off, Mr. BARBOUR. It seems to me that there are so many other by and of itself, on the kind of land that is not valuable. So fields in the country where land could be acquired for less there is no strength in the gentleman's argument when he says money than this, that this is an extravagance. it i clo e or adjacent to Kelly Field. That is not necessary. Mr. STAFFORD. Does the gentleman realize the conditions The purpo e of a bombing field is simply to have a field where that prevail here whereby the land was leased to the Govern markers or targets or objectives can be located and send the ment, and under the conditions of the lease the land should be planes there to practice bombing where they wiU not injure any returned in the same condition as when leased? Now there are one or any property. So there is one of two arguments that can claims against the Government, which it is represented by the be made. Either this land is not worth $80 an acre, but if you War Department may equal, if not exceed, the value of the say it is worth $80 an acre, I will accept your views and then land. We think it is a good proposition to wipe out the claim say that we should not buy that kind of land for bombing for damages, take the land, become free of any lawsuit, and purposes. thereby have the land for nothing. Mr. BARBOUR. 'Vill the gentleman yield? If there was not the liability of the Government arising out Mr. LAGUARDIA. I yield. of this contract of lea e and the return of the land in the same 1\lr. BARBOUR. If it is necessary to buy $80-per-acre land condition, we might take a different position. But we have a for a bombing field at Kelly Field in Texas, then is not that an propo ition where the land i charged with the liability of the indication that a mistake was made in locating the bombing Government to take the land at a fair value--and we have field where such expensive land is necessary? safeguarded the interests of the Government in the committee. 1930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE fi0141 We were auvised that we could not get the land for $80,000, that the statement be read in lieu of the repo.rt. Is there and we sought a bill authorizing the Government to purchase objection? it at that price, and if they do not accept that price, then we There was no objection. could go to condemnation. The Clerk read the statement. Mr. B.ARBOUR. But suppose we condemn it and they fix the The conference report and statement are as follows: price at $100 an acre? Mr. STAFFORD. Then we will have to pay for it. But we CONFERENCE REPORT have done all we can in committee to safeguard the interests The committee of conference on the disagreeing votes of the of the Government. two Houses on the ame:M.dments of the Senate to the bill (H. R. The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman has expired. 10175) to amend an act entitled "An act to provide for the pro Mr. BARBOUR. l'tlr. Speaker, I move to strike out the last motion of vocational rehabilitation of persons disabled in indus word. try or otherwise and their return to civil employment," approved l\Ir. LAGUARDIA. Will the gentleman yield? June 2, 1920, as amended, having met, after full and free confer 1\Ir. BARBOUR. I yield. ence have agreed to recommend and do recommend to their Mr. L~GUARDIA. I want to ask a question. The only claim respective Houses as follows: for damages now presented are by the owners of this land. That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend Mr. WURZB.ACH. Yes. ment of the Senate numbered 1, and agree to the same. Mr. LAGUARDIA. And there are no individual claims? That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend llr. WuRZBACH. I do not think that by any action of the ment of the Senate numbered 2, and agree to the same with an committee we could foreclose any equitable claim that may amendment as follows : In lieu of the matter proposed to be arise from injuries to individuals. inserted by the Senate amendment insert "$80,000" ; and the Mr. LAGUARDIA. Well, we might provide that it is in full Senate agree to the same. for all damage claims arising from the use of the land by the DANIEL A. REED, w·ar Department. In other words, if the inducement for the E. HART FENN, le~slation and the appropriation of $80,000 is to wipe out all LoRING M. BLACK, Jr., claim , let us say so. Ma·na.gers on the part of the House. 1\Ir. STAFFORD. That is the purpose of the bill. Let me JESSE H. METCALF, read an extract from the late Secretary of War, Mr. Good. He JAMES CouzENs, says: DAVID I. WALSH, These damage claims received the consideration of two separate Ma'nagers on the part of the Senate. boards under the jurisdiction of this department, aud said boards are in accord in finding that by reason of the failure of the United States to STATEMENT remove all unexploded bombs and shells prior to relinquishing possession The managers on the part of the House at the conference on the lands have become unsaleable and their possession undesirable, all the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendments of to the damage of the owners ; that the cost of clearing the lands of the the Senate to the bill (H. R. 10175) to amend an act entitled bombs would exceed their fair marketable value if in their normal con "An act to IJrovide for the promotion of vocational rehabilita dition on September 30, 1926; that the restoration of said lands to tion of persons disabled in industry or otherwise and their r~ their normal condition would be impracticable and could not be accom turn to civil employment," approved June 2, 1920, as amended, plished without great danger to life or limb; and lastly, that in view of submit the following written statement in explanation of the uch conditions the lands should be purchased by the United States. effect of the action agreed upon by the conferees and recom Both of the claims filed, however, were found by said boards to be mended in the accompanying conference report : c:xcessive in the amounts of damages claimed, and the result is that sat On amendment No. 1: The Senate amendment proposes that i. factory settlements can not be made with the owners. allotments of funds unused by the States should be -reallotted 'Ve have safeguarded the interests of the Government in to other States where funds were available; and the House every way. The purpose of it is to wipe out the liability the recedes. Government has by reason of the contract of lease which we On amendment No. 2: The House bill increased the authoriza entered into for war purposes. tion for appropriation for administrative and other expenses of :Mr. LAGUARDIA. The gentleman from Wisconsin is a care the Federal board from $75,000 to $100,000. The Senate amend ful legislator, and I am sure that he will agree with me that ment reduced the amount to $75,000; and the House recedes it is not vety efficient and intelligent work upon the part of with an amendment increasing the amount to $80,000 to provide the War Department to place itself in such a position. Soldiers for salary increases under the Welch Act of 1928. may not know anything about real estate, but they ought to DANIEL A. llEED, know omething about explosives, and knowing something about E. HART FENN, explo ive they should ha-re gone to a bombing field where they LORING M. BLACK, Jr., \>;ould not be confronted at the end of the lease with such a Managers on the part of the Hous9. condition. Mr. STAFFORD. But a condition now confronts the Con Tl!e SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the con gre s in this matter and we are now trying to safeguard the ference report. interest of the Government. I do not think there can be any The conference report was· agreed to. question that we are. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FIFTH ANNIVERSARY OF AYERICAN Mr. LAGUARDIA. Is the phrase "certain damage " ._ uffi INDEPENDENCE ciently broad? The SPEAKER. Under auth01ity of House Concurrent Reso Mr. STAFFORD. I think so. It is only connected with this lution 28, the Chair appoints the following committee to repre one matter. 1\Ir. Speaker, I ask for a vote on the committee sent the House of Representatives at the one hundred and amendments. twenty-fifth anniversary of the celebration of American in The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the commit dependence by the Lewis and Clark expedition, which the Clerk tee amendments. will report. The committee amendments were agreed to. The Clerk read as follows: The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, was read the third time, and passed. Mr. HOOPER, Mr. THURSTON, Mr. HILL of Washington. A motion to reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed LOAN OF AERONAUTICAL- EQUIPMENT BY WAR DEPARTMENT was laid on the table. Mr. STAFFORD. :Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION on Military Affairs I call up the bill (H. R. 1420) to authorize 1\Ir. REED of New York. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous the Secretary of War to loan aeronautical equipment and mate consent for the present consideration of the conference report rial for purposes of research and experimentation. upon the bill (H. R. 10175) to amend an act entitled "An act The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisconsin calls up the prodding for the promotion of vocational rehabilitation of per bill H. R. 1420, which the Clerk will report sons disabled in industry, and otherwise, and their return to The Clerk read the bill, as follows: civil employment," approved June 2, 1920, as amended, and ask Be it enacted, etc., That ilie Secretary of War be, and he is hereby, unanimou consent that the statement be read in lieu of the authorized to loan, under regulations to be prescribed by the President report. and without cost to the United States, such articles of aeronautical The SPEAKER. The gentleman from New York asks unani-~ equipment or material as may be available and as are not obtainable as mous consent for the present consideration of the conference commercial articles in the open market, to American manufacturers or report upon the bill H. R. 10175, and asks unanimous consent designers of airerait or others engaged in research work in connection 10142 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE . JUNE 5 with aeronautics for the purpose of assisting in the del"'elopment of Mr. STAFFORD. The Chair understands, of course, that aeronautics, and the Secretary of War shall require in each case from the House automatically goes into Committee of the Whole every manufacturer, institution, or person a bond 1n the value of the House on the state of the Union? property issued for the care, safe-keeping, and return thereof in good The SPEAKER pro tempore. Yes; the Chair so understands. order to the United States when required. The House automatically resolves itself into the Committee of Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I yield now to the gentleman the Whole House on the state of the Union for the consideration from New York [Mr. W .AINWRIGHT]. of the bill H. R. 2030. The gentleman from Montana [Mr. Mr. WAINWRIGHT. Mr. Speaker, this is a bill which is LEAviTT] will please take the chair. asked for by the Air Service of the Army and comes here with Thereupon the House resolved it elf into the Committee of the the recommendation of the Secretary of War. The purpose of Whole House on the state of the Union for the consideration the bill is to enable the Secretary of War to lend to manufac of the bill H. R. 2030, with Mr. LEAVITT in the chair. turers and inventors in connection with the development of The CHAIRMAN. The House is in Committee of the Whole aviation noncommercial material which the War Department Hou ·e on the state of the Union for the consideration of the may have on hand, the interest of the Government being safe bill H. R. 2030, which the Clerk will report by title. guarded by requiring that a proper bond shall be given. The The title was again read. Judge Advocate General has decided that whereas to-day where 1\Ir. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent there is an actual contract in existence with a manufacturer the that the first reading of the bill be dispensed with. War Deparb.oent may furnish him with any such equipment as The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the a model to assist him in the execution of his contract that can gentleman from Wisconsin? not be done generally to assist inventors or to promote the de J.'here was no objection. Telopment of aeronautical equipment. 1\Ir. STAFFORD. lUr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent The purpose of the bill can best be expressed by reading a that the gentleman from Pennsylvania [1\Ir. McFADDEN] may brief extract from a letter signed by the late Secretary of 1Yar, have 10 minutes to speak, out of order. James W. Good, while he was Secretary of War: The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? There was no objection. It [the bill] will authorize the Secretary of War in his discretion and under regulations prescribed by him, and without cost to the Govern Mr. McFADDEN. Mr. Chairman, I am indebted to the mem bers of the Committee on Military Affairs for their courtesy ment, to loan to American manufacturers, designers, and others engaged in granting me this time. in the work of development of aeronautics, suitable aeronautical equip ment or material to further the purposes of such research or experi 1\h'. Thomas W. Lamont is quoted by the New York Sun of mentation. June 2, 1930, as stating before an assembly of the Academy of The passage of this act is favored because it will foster research in Political Science at the Hotel Astor that- aeronautics by extension of facilities to independent experimenters. Chairman McFADDE:'{ of the House Committee on Banking and Cur There are no apparent reasons against enactment of this legislation. rency had made "unfounded and unjust accusations" against Germany . Mr. TABER. 1\Ir. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? in connection with the Young plan of reparations. l\fr. STAFFORD. Yes . .. The Sun further states [quoting] : M. TABER. I b.ave had this question raised in respect to He represented Mr. McFADDI!lX's statement that Germany went beyond this, Mr. Speaker: What will hinder the department from buy-. the law in accepting the obligations under the new plan and that the ing material with the specific object in view of turning the same late Herr Stresemann had declared that Germany could not fulfill the over to the industry? obligations. Mr. WAINWRIGHT. Mr. Speaker, it seems to me that that is almost too grotesque an assumption to require an answer. I am astonished that Mr. Lamont should raise the question of It seems to me that responsible officers of the War Department good faith at this late date. and the Air Service might be trusted not to engage in any such Mr. Lamont is laboring under an illusion. Mr. McFADDEN practice as that indicated by the gentleman from New York. in none of his speeches charged the present German Government Mr. LAGUARDIA. I am sure my colleague would not have or the German people themselves with bad faith, nor did be asked this question had we not listened to a justification for state in any of his addresses that "Germany went beyond the buying land worth $80 an acre and bombing it law." What Mr. 1\IcF.ADDEN did ay was to quote Herr Strese Mr. TABER. Is the bill open for amendment? mann in a speech delivered by him before the Reichstag on June Mr. STAFFORD. It is not, but I yield to the gentleman for 24, 1929, with which the investing public of the United States a suggestion of an amendment. are thoroughly familiar. Mr. TABER. I suggest that an amendment be adopted after This statement was printed in the London Times of June 25, the word "available," in line 6. by inserting the words "which 1929, on page 16, first column. I have it here [displaying file has not been purchased for that purpose." of the London Times]. I have here also a copy of the official 1\Ir. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, in the interest of expedition, record of the proceedings in the German Reichstag of June 20, I shall offer that amendment, but I can not see the need of it. 1929. The statement of Herr Stresemann appears in that copy, The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisconsin offers an nnd these are the exact words that I quoted in the previous amendment, which the Clerk will report. speech to which Mr. Lamont referred, and I now repeat them The Clerk read as follows: and say that they are identical with the statement I referred to in the London Times, and they are from the proceedings in Amendment offered by Mr. STAFFORD: Page 1, line 6, after the word the German Reichst.ag on that date. This is what Herr Strese "available," insert "and which has not been purchased for that mann then said : purpose." Do you think that any member of the Government regards the Young The SPEAKER pro tempore (:~Ir. HoOPER). The question is plan as ideal? Do you believe that any individual can give a guaranty . on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin. for its fulfillment? Do you believe that anybody in the world expects The amendment was agreed to. such a guaranty from us? The plan would only represent, in the first The bill as amended was ordet·ed to be engrossed and read a place, a settlement for the coming decade. The point is whether it third time, was read the third time, and passed. loosens the shackles which fetter us and lightens the burdens which A motion to reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed we have yet to fulfill. was laid on the table. And what 1\Ir. McFADDEN further said was that the repara PURCHASE OF LAND ADJOINING FORT BLISS, TEX. tions bonds, having grown out of the illegal clauses in the Ml'. STAFFORD. l\Ir. Speaker, by direction of the Commit armistice upon which the illegal clauses in the treaty of Ver tee on Military Affairs, I call up the bill H. R. 2030. sailles rest, and from which the German Reparations Commis The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the bill sion, as well as the present Bank for International Settlements, by title. derived their authority, constituted an illegal barrier to the The Clerk read as follows: commercialization of the present bonds which the American A bill (H. R. 2030) to authorize an appropriation for the purcliase of public are now requested to purchase. land adjoining Fort Bliss, Tex. What is generally understood by all international lawyers, and in which I thoroughly concur, is that the only forum in 1\Ir. STAFFORD. 1\Ir. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that which a purchaser of these bonds could recover, in the event of this bill be considered iu the House as in Committee of the the failure or impossibility on the part of the German people Whole. keeping up their payments and thus defaulting upon the pay Mr. TABER. I think we ought to go into Committee of the ment of principal and interest would be in a German court in Whole House on the state of the Union. I object. which the principles of German law would be applied, and even The SPEAKER pro tempore. Objection is heard. if the German courts were persuaded to adopt the law of nations 1930 CONGR.ESSION AL REOOR.D-HOUSE J0143 as a guide in their ruling upon the question, it would still be this, it is a matter of caution, suggested by common sense, that impossible for any German court to decide otherwise than that reputable bankers see clearly a solid legal basis for offering such the bonds were a result of duress and bad faith on the part of securities in their own home markets. the Allies in the armistice and all its subsequent dictating The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Pennsyl policies and instrumentalities which brings these bonds now vania bas expired. into the markets of the world. Therefore it is not a question Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman two of the bad faith of Germany at all but the question of bad additional minutes. faith on the part of the Allies which lies at the base of the e The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Pennsylvania is rec· bonds and entirely destroys their validity in any court of inter ognized for two additional minutes. national law, even if the rules thereof be applied in the local Mr. McFADDE~. Remember, if you please, that Mr. Lamont courts of Germany. and his conferees have been advocating to the world that By referring to the dispatch from Paris in the New York $300,000,000 worth of German reparation payments was to be 'limes of June 3 by Carlisle MacDonald, it will be noted that commercialized and sold in the nine countries of the world in already efforts are being made for some arrangement by the accordance with the terms of the agreed-upon Young plan, bankers with the authorities in Germany to overcome the mani whereas now we find that only $200,000,000 of German repara fest illegality of the bonds now offered, and that so far nothing tion loans are to be commercialized and sold in these countries, satisfactory has been invented to overcome this difficulty. and that the bankers are granting now a separate loan to Mr. Lamont can not, by misquoting me, nor by his present Germany of $100,000,000, which is to be secured outside of attempt to appear sympathetic with the Ger;man people, reverse reparation payments. his previous attitude and place the burden upon others of prov It is interestillg to note, in this connection, during the dis ing the Allies innocent in forcing Germany to submit to terms cussions that have been taking place since I raised the question and thus issue bonds which, under the law of nations and the of the legality and security back of these bonds that England common promptings of humanity, should never have been done. bas persistently oppo ed the taking on of England's quota of It is up to Mr. Lamont to excuse his previous attitude and to these bonds until the question of legal and ample security was show conclusively by legal authority that the bonds he now fully determined; 1\Ir. Snowden, the chancellor of the ex seeks to market in this country are at least capable of being chequer, last week intimated that if England was forced to recommended by lawyers of repute. Common honesty demands take this issue, in order to save a breakdown of the Young this at least. plan, the amount should be credited on account of reparation Now, particularly this paragraph in the New York Times payments due from Germany to England and in case of default report is significant; it says : would then become a mere bookkeep:ng entry. Mr. Lamont has failed to explain to the public the incident The matter of the price of the bonds in the various markets is still of a large portion of these bonds which were to be subscribed being worked out, but there are indications that American investors by the Dutch bankers, as well as of those allotted to the Jap will have the opportunity of purchasing them at a very attractive price. anese and Swiss bankers, and of the $5,000,000 additional al One suggestion is that the price will be around 85 or 86, to yield lotted to Germany, which, when Germany protested, France nearly 6¥.! per cent. That the American price will be approximately agreed to assume-he bas failed to explain these incidents at this figure is borne out by the dispatches from Washington published which are so far suspended in m:dair that the American people here to-day to the effect that the State Department has given its a1·e wondering what their destiny will ultimately be. A whole inlormal consent to the flotation in American of" one third of the loan," new chapter has been written in these various conferences or $100,000,000. Previous estimates of the American share have fixed abroad since I raised the question of the validity of the e bonds the amount at $85,000,000, but when this was pointed out in respon and the security back of them. This is now a matter of such sible American banking quarters it was explained that if the American importance that the enlightened mind of Mr. Lamont could be issue price was around 85 it would be necessary to sell $100,000,000 better directed toward its solution than misrepresenting an worth of bonds to complete •the American allotment of $85,000,000. American citizen who is attempting to defend the interests of To quote further, and this is significant : his own countrymen. It will be recalled that one of the main problems inherited by the com Will 1\fr. Lamont now submit " this strong legal formula " so mittee of four was the delicate que tion of the services of two portions as to remove the doubts which American investors now have ot the loan ; that is to say, the $200,000,000 destined for the allied respecting the validity of the $100,000,000 issue which is to be treasuries and guaranteed as to the interest and principal by a portion floated in this country? [Applause.] of the unconditional annuities of the Young plan, and the third $100,- The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman· from Penn· 000,000 which the bankers, with the consent of the allied powers, are sylvania has again expired. lending to Germany for the development of her railways and postal · Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I ask for recognition in oppo serrices. The latter is secured only by the German budget. It was sition to the pending bill. Mr. STAFFORD. I yield 10 minutes to the gentleman from said to-day that a strong "legal formula" had been reached under the terms of which each portion of the loan will bear an equal guaranty South Carolina [Mr. McSwAIN]. as to interest and principal, thus removing any doubts which prospec The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from South Carolina is tive investors might have had regarding the secmity for (what) the recognized for 10 minute . 1\Ir. McSWAIN. Mr. Chairman and members of the com $100,000,000 to be paid to Germany. mittee, I will take a few moments to go into the history of The Committee on Banking and Currency of the House of this matter. Representatives have, through its chairman, requested from our Some five or six years ago we passed an act to authorize State Department information which has not been forthcom an appropriation of $366,000 for the purchase of a specific tract ing-the chairman is still insisting and waiting-yet we find of land containing 3,600 acre known as the Ascarate tract. that the State Department, if the above statement be true, has In the Committee on Military Affairs that bill was very urgently been cooperating with and keeping fully informed the foreign and insistently advocated by the officers of the War Depart interests which are now seeking to market their securities in ment, including the. Chief of Staff. I insisted upon an amend this country. ment whereby the purchase of the definite tract of land was Is it not about time, in view of these recited occurrences, that stricken out, and the Secretary of 1Yar was authorized to the State Department now inform Congress and the American purchase any tract of land to be used in connection with the investing public what position it does actually assume in regard reservation at Fort Bli s; and that motion prevailed in the to the legality and sale of the bonds now being recommended House and in the Senate and became law. by Mr. Lamont which are to be sold by J. P. Morgan & Co. to When the Secretary of War proceeded to function unuer the American investors? Mr. Lamont should also now make this authority different parcels of land were offered at prices clear to the American investing public whether he proposes to very much lower than the price contemplated by the original sell $100,000,000 worth of the proposed commercialized Ger bill, the price there being fixed at $100 an acre for the Ascarate man reparation bonds, which require a strong formula for their tract. As the result of these various offers the Secretary of support, or whether J. P. Morgan & Co. propose to sell to the War purchased an entirely different tract containing 4,500 American public the $100,000,000 worth of bonds representing acres, instead of 3,600 acres, at a cost of $91,000 instead of an advance by the bankers to the German Government for the $366,000, and in fact I felt rather proud of what seemed to be development of her rail way and postal services, which are only an accomplishment in the interest of economy. secured by the German budget. The chairman of the committee [Mr. JAMES] who is now sick, Recognizing the fact that the American people have long visited this post last year some time, I think in August or memories, there are few of Ol.lr own investors in Liberty loan September, and when our committee was organized in December and Victory loan bonds who will fail to recall that bonds of this the subcommittee of which he was chairman had this pre ent great country for which they paid 100 cents on the dollar fell bill up for consideration, to authorize the purcha e of the .,arne after the armistice to 82 cents on the dollar. Remembering land as was contemplated originally, the Ascarate tract, and 10144 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 5 I 'feel that I am justifietl in stating what the chairman of the :Mr. STAFFORD. I yield the gentleman from South Cnro ubcommittee and the chainnan of the whole committee [Mr. lina fise additional minute . JAMES] said nt the time the hearing was had before the 1\fr. McSWAIN. It is used for a practice field for the fielcl subcommittee. artillery, as well as bombing from airplanes and for rifle prac I do not know whether it is in the printed report of the pro tice, but perhaps it would not haye been necessary to purchase ceedings or not, but he said he had been on the ground and had it. However, the chairman of the committee, in who..,e judg gone into the matter very carefully and had come to the con ment I have great confidence, not only from the point of '"fiew clusion that the 4,500 acres which was bought was not adapted of what i desirable from a military point of view, but e'"fen to nor useful for the main purposes of the command stationed more so from the point of economy, bas been on the gTotmd. at Fort BlL . That is a cavalry divi ion. The gentleman said I have not. The gentleman says it is necessary. this 4,GOO acres wa very good for target practice, for; artillery l\lr. COLLINS. Will the gentleman yield? practice, as well as for rifle practice, and very good for bomb Mr. McSWAIN. I yield. ing practice with airplanes, but as far as maneuvers of the Mr. COLLINS. The 4,500 acres is not adjacent to Fort Bli s? cn-ralry command stationed there are concerned, it is undesir Mr. l\IcSW AIN. No. It is . everal miles away. able for two reasons. Fir't, on account of the topography. Mr. COLLINS. It is a tract of land .. everal miles from Fort It i perfectly flat and doe not admit of the maneuver that Bliss? are neced~ary for the training of ca-ralry. In the next place, Mr. McSWAIN. Yes. That is right. the gentleman said the ground is -rery thickly covered with Mr. COLLINS. Was the War Department given authority cactus and that the pine or stickers of the cactus get into the to buy that tract of land? leg of the horce and proYe '\ery harmful, and it is therefore a 1\Ir. l\icSW A.I1~. It was given authority to buy whatever seriou. · drnwbacl~ to ca'"falry practice. land it decided was neces. ary and de.. irable for u e in con l\1r. COLLI~S. Will the gentleman yield? nection with Fort Bli . l\lr. UcSW AIN. I yield. l\!r. COLLINS. And they bought it? :Jlr. COLLINS. He must ba'"fe bought it sight un~een? Mr. McSWAIN. Ye .. l\lr. l\lcSW AIN. I do not know how he bought it. I am only Mr. COLLINS. How does the gentleman know that under saying that he did buy it for about $20 per acre, or a little less the terms of this bill they will not buy 4,500 acre of land than $20 per acre, whereas the other tract, it was insisted, was 9 miles in some other direction? cheap at $100 per acre. Mr. McSWAIN. I do not know it. It i:-: al. ·o nece . ary that there ~ hould be a landing field at l\1r. COLLINS. And how does the gentleman know they will this fort, and it is nece ~. ary that there should be additional not u ·e the same bad judgment they u ed in purcha ing the room in connection witll the fort for close-order drill. The land 4,500 acres? that i now aitl to be very desirable to purcha e, to wit, the Mr. McSW A.IN. I do not know it. Nobody can know it, Ascarate tract, contains a depression which completely con and I am the mo-rer of the amendment that changed the lan ceal the cavalry units at certain times of the maneuvers, and guage of this bill so they could not buy a specific piece of prop yet enable them to come up on the plateau, and, for purposes erty at a specific price. I think thls House is not in a posi of instruction, appear to take by surpriJ e, by flank movement tion to say what land is worth and what particular piece of or otherwLe, artillery or infantry unit '. They say it is very land must be bought. We are not in a position to say that. desirable topographically. A number of officers appeared be I say this, as this amendment proposes, that the Secretary of fore the committee. I think there were three or four separate War is authorized to call for bids for land at a price which hearing" on this bill. the owner are willing to accept. If he considers that any one You may "-eu unde.r -tantl that my original attitude was piece of land i.· nece sary and desirable, and if it is appro-red om~wllat unfriendly to the situation, becau"'e I felt orne pride by the corp area commander, then he buys it, and if the Appro in saving the Government $280,000 in the other deal, and yet priations Committee furnishes the money, the transaction is I felt compelled to yield to the superior judgment of the over, nnd that is all there is about it. We must vest eli cre chairman of the committee [:llr. JAMES], who has been on the tion ·omewhere. land and im~pocted it, as I know be does inspect properties when Mr. Mci\IILLAN. I tlrink the gentleman is eminently correct he goe for the purpose of seeing the true conditions. He told in his views on that score, but I want to ask the gentleman if u tllat tbi · lantl repre ented on the plat which I hold in my he can tell the Hou e whether here has been a reduction in hand, ,;urrounded by blue and red and buff, represented three price o-rer the price they wanted for it last year? ·eparate h·aH which he deemed nece ary and very essential. Mr. McSWAIN. There i no offer of a price now. 1'\Ir. LAGUARDIA. What is the scale of that map? Mr. l\Ic)liLLAl~. La t year, as I under and it1 it was $100 Mr. ~lcSW AIN. I am sorry to ay I !lo not know. an acre. · l\Ir. COLLINS. Will the gentleman yield 1 Mr. McSWAIN. That was five or six years ago. However, l\lr. McSWAIN. I yield. we a·re not concerned in the price. I do not know what it i. Mr. COLLINS. Does it constitute an entire county? worth, and the whole purpose of this amendment and the whole l\Ir. McSWAIN. No; it does not constitute an entire county. purpo, e of the report which I \"\Tote i to try to get that lancl Mr. STAFFORD. Does it constitute the enti.re Lone Star at not one cent more than it is worth. State? l\Ir. TABER. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. 1\!cSW A.IN. No, indeed; nor even one of the five pos- 1\lr. i\IcSW AIN. Ye . sible States. l\Ir. TABER. How long ago did we buy the 4,500 acre ~ ? Mr. LAGUARDIA. We pur<.:ha ed that a short time ago. Mr. :McSWAIN. I think it wa · about five years ago. 1\lr. Mci\liLLAN. Will the gentleman yiel!l? Mr. TABER. Has it been in use e'"fer since? l\Ir. )fcSWAIN. I yield. Mr. McSWAIN. Yes. 1\Ir. 1\IcMILL.AN. Do I understand the gentleman to say 1\lr. TABER. Doe ~ the gentleman know how many cnxalry that tbi 3,600-acl·e tract is now needed, in addition to the 4,500- troops are there? acre tract wbich was purcha ed la t year? • l\Ir. McSWAIN. There is omething le. than a ca-ra.lry Mr. l\IcSW AIN. Yes, sir; exactly. That i ofu· opinion, for dinsion. this rea on : The 4.500-acre tract i · not contiguous to the r·eser 1\Ir. TABER. That means about how many? vation. I believe it i several mile from the fort and on the l\Ir. McSWAIN. I do not know. I should think there " ·ere other side, so that to go to maneu-rer ~ and practice from the 8,000 or 9,000 Cavalry troop. there. existing 1-e ·ervation to the 4,500-acre tract which was acquired Mr. TABER Eight thousand or nine thousand cavalry pursuant to the original authority it is necessary to go through troops? the city, whereas the land now proposed to be purchased is Mr. MoSW AIN. I think there would be that many. imruetliately contiguous to the re ervation. The first tract ad 1\lr. TABER. Would it not be nearer 800 or 900? join the reservation. There are three tracts. The second one Mr. McSWAIN. Oh, no. adjoins the first tract, and the third one adjoins the second Mr. TABER. The-re are only 8,000 or 9,000 cavalry troop tract, o that it mal(es one connected piece of property. all together in the continental United States, and they are not Mr. 1\fcMILL.AN. As uming that the War Department would all there by any mean . haye purchased the 3,600-acre tract last year, would it have 1\lr. McSWAIN. They are nearly all tbere. That is the been necessary at this time to buy the 4,500-acre tract? cavalry division on the frontier. Mr. l\lcSWAIX No; I do not think o. It is contended by 1\Ir. LAGUARDIA. My colleague from New York is a king the of.Iicers who ha'"fe apneared before the committee that the as to the real and actual number of cavalry troops and not the purcha e of the 4,500-acre property was a mistake. It is usable, paper regiments. as I have stated. l\Ir. l\IcSW AIN. Well, I do not know; but I do rememuer The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from South that they ~ tated there was something le s than a ca-ralry divi Carolina [Mr. McSwAIN] l1as expire(]. sion there. However, they nL'3o have other organizations there. 1930 CON GRESS! ON AL RECORD-HOUSE 10145 The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from South into a project that is gradually fading away and slipping away Carolina ha again expired. from us? Mr. STAFFORD. Ur. Chairman, I yield the gentleman three We have got 4,500 acres, and for four or five years the War adilitional minutes. Department has used this 4,500 acres for cavalry maneuvers Mr. GARHETT. Will the gentleman yield? without complaint. It i~ true they had to go a little distance Mr. McSWAIN. Yes. to get to it, but they knew that when they bought it. :.Ur. GARRETT. I want the gentleman to show in his This project has not always commended itself to the powers remarks the testimony of General :Moseley as to the character of that be. thi land in particular, and that the Go\ernm.ent of the United Mr. GARRETT. Will the gentleman yield? States has had the free u e of it for years and years. The Mr. TABER. Certainly. Government has had the use of it and it has never been Mr. GARRETT. It is unfortunate we have not the te timony charged any rent for tlle use of this land. This is by far the of General l\Ioseley here, but the gentleman from Mis issippi largest cavalry post in the United States, and General Moseley, has referred to this cavalry being used up and down the entire as the gentleman will recall, has soldiered all over that coun course of the Rio Grande. General Moseley testified, as I recall, try, and he said that, in his opinion, it was absolutely necessary that practically the entire ca\alry i now being concentrated for this land to be acquired and added to that post. at Fort Bliss and that the patrol service up and down the l\lr. McSWAIN. That is their opinion, but I am unwilling border is being conducted now largely by motor service; but to ay that legislatively; hence, I have asked that" this bill be they have to keep the cavalry there. I asked him the que tion amended so that there shall be offers of land from anybody myself if it would be possible to abandon Fort Bliss and make who wants to sell land, and whether the other land is desirable further concentrations at other places, and he said it would not; or not, it will test the value. It will be a measure and stand that Fort Bli s would always be a strategic and necessary ard of value whereby the War Department can judge as to what poNt on the border between the two nations, and one of the is the ti·ue value of the land. · most important. This question was asked him looking to the I have also suggested in the report that they hall not be very thing the gentleman is now discussing, and this was his bound by the appraisal of some bunch of real-estate dealers but positive testimony; and, as the gentleman will remember, Gen that they shall go to bankers, who are usually conservative men, eral Moseley is the man who has soldiered for many years up and get their opinions. I feel we are obliged to yield our judg and down that entire Rio Grande country and knows about it ment as to what is needed and that we must lea\e that to mili from one end to the other and knows what is best from a mili tary experts. It is a question · of military and profe sional tary standpoint for that section, and this is his idea. opinion as to what land is necessary. It is true, as the gentle Mr. TABER. The gentleman ha brought out the meat of this man from Mississippi points out, that the former general in situation and that is we have come to the point-! am orry I command make a mistake in the opinion of tho e who ha\e have not the figures here to trace it down for a great many come upon the scene since, and it is aid he was the only officer years, although I know it could be done-where the number of in high command who ever entertained the opinion that the cavalry in commission and the number of cavalry in this corps 4,500 acres were desirable. As I say, at the time I applauded area is less and les year by year. The gentleman has brought him because I thought he had accomplished something in the out the point that cavalry is more and more giving place to interest of economy, and I am glad he at least showed an mechanized units and that the patrol work along the border is inclination to do so, whether he made a mistake or not. now being done almost entirely by motors. Mrs. KAHN. Will the gentleman yield? l\Ir. GARRETT. l\lay I say to the gentleman right there that 1\lr. l\lcSW AIN. Yes. I have stated the testimony of General l\Io eley when we ques Mrs. KAHN. This property is becoming very valuable now tioned him as to whether or not the abandonment of the ca\alry for industrial purposes, and it is necessary to get it at once, was practical or possible, and he said that while the motorized if we want to get it at all. service wa advancing to a high tate of efficiency, yet in that Mr. McSWAIN. 1\Ir. JAMES said there are a great many section of the country it would be utterly impossible and foolish small cabins being built on one of the tracts adjacent to the to abandon the cavalry because there are times and there are resenation and that doubtless it will be very difficult to get the places where the motors can not go and where you would have property later, if not very much more expensive to acquire this to have cavalry. property a few years later. Mr. BARBOUR. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, it appears that the War Depart l\Ir. TABER. Yes. ment five or ix years ago obtained an authorization, an appro Mr. BARBOUR. Even though that is the fact, is it not al o priation, and purchased 4,500 acres of land; that this land has true we have a number of cavalry posts throughout the United been used for five or six years for the purpose of the maneu States that are ample to take care of all the cavalry we have in vers of a cavalry post at or near Fort Bliss. Until September the United States Army to-day, and more too, if necessary? 9, 1929, there was no substantial move made by the War l\Ir. TABER. Yes. Department to get hold of any other land. On that date the l\Ir. STAFFORD. Does not the gentleman realize, too, that Acting Secretary of the War, Patrick J. Hurley, sent a letter it is a matter for the War Department to determine where om· to the chairman of the Committee on Military Affairs going into troops are to be placed, and the War Department has pu i the facts, and he also went into the question of the de irability tively determined that we should maintain a cavalry post along of purchasing 3,600 acres, which were originally contemplated. the Rio Grande and not on the Canadian border? If the War There is not anything to show in all of these proceedings that Department had decided it should be on the Canadian border, these 3,600 acres, which were originally de ired, could be had. that would be one thing; but the trategists of the War Depart There is not anything to show that they can be had for a ment have said it is neces ary to have it on the Rio GrandE>. reasonable sum. There is not anything to show in a fair way Are we, as a legislative body, to depart from the recommen·Ja that this land is needed for the necessary maneuvers of cavalry tion of the strategists whose proper province is to determine troops at Fort Bliss, Tex. where the e posts are to be located? The number of cavalry troops all together is about 7,977 in l\Ir. BARBOUR. As a legislative body we have a perfect the whole United States. The largest number in any area was right, and it is our duty, to examine the recQmmendations of the Eighth Corps Area. Is that the area within which this post the War Department and u e our judgment in regard to them. is located? Mr. STAFFORD. Oh, examine; but not determine the place. :Mr. McSWAIN. Yes. Mr. BARBOUR. We can determine the place, and in the e Mr. COLLINS. Will the gentleman yield? days of moving troops rapidly, you do not have to have them Mr. TABER. Yes. right on the border line. Mr. COLLINS. But the cavalry in this particular corps area 1\lr. STAFFORD. I have not reached that stage, after my is covered over a distance of 500 miles up and down the Mexican years of service, where I wish to place my judgment above the border. judgment of the strategists of the War Department. Mr. TABER. That is what I understand, and the total num· Mr. BARBOUR. The gentleman has done that frequently ber in the corps area is 3,560. when the War Department bills were in here. This number, as well as the number of cavalry in the United :Mr. STAFFORD. Cite one instance. That is a very easy States, is constantly decreasing. We are constantly being asked and flippant remark for the gentleman to make. for, and making, appropriations for the development of mecha Mr. BARBOUR. It is not a flippant remark. nized units which are taking the place gradually of cavalry Mr. STAFFORD. I say it is. Cite one instance. units. Now, is it good judgment, is it a fair thing for us at this Mr. BARBOUR. Just give me an opportunity and I will. time to authorize the purchase of 3,600 acres of land? We do The gentleman, at least on one occasion, and perhaps on more not know whether we can get desirable land or not, and should than one occa ion when the War Department bill was before we go ahead and spread ourselves and put a great deal of money the House of Representative made the statemept in regard to • 1.0146 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JUNE 5 a recommendation of the War Department that ncb provision Believing that the price asked for the land in contemplation wns too in the bill was ridiculous. The RECORD will show it. high, the War Depnrtment purchased other lands shown in broad oeange Mr. STAFFORD. Perhap the recommendation of the sub outline on attached photostat at a price of $91,000, including incidental committee on the War Department bill ~nts ridiculous, but not e:xpcn es. Of these two tracts of land, one lying about llh miles north the recommendation of the War Department. en t of the post is used by the Air Corps, while the other tract lying ~lr. BARBOUR. The recommendation of the subcommittee about 3lh miles north of the post is used for small arms and artillery wn::; in accordance with the recommendation of the War Depart target practice, and is available at other times for field training. The meut. and tile ubcommittee wa. simply bringing before the uuexpt>nded balance of the $366,000, amounting to $275,000, reverted Hou. e tbe recommendation of the War Department. If the to the Trea ury as savings. gentleman wnntR me to cite ome more instances-- The land shown in broad blue outline on the attached photo tat is llr. STAFFORD. YCJ ; I would like to have a specific sub tantially that which was originally in contemplation for purchase, instance nn•J not a rreneral reference. and is the land referred to in subject legi lation. Mr. BA.llUOUR. That is what I am giving the gentleman. The acquisition of the tracts in question is essential to the future It j~ in the RECORD and the gentleman can check it up. development of this important po t, as the land already possessed i Mr. TABEH I am plense With a committee amendment as follows: BE...~ ATE BILLS REFERRED On page 2, line 13, after the word " post," strike out the comma and Bills and joint resolutions of the Senate of the following the words "or the use and occupation under," and in llne. l4, after the titles were taken from the Speaker's table and under the rule word "further," insert the word "that," and In the same line strike referred as follows : out the word " suspended " and insert the word " canceled," and in line S. 615. An act authorizing an appropriation for payment to 15, niter the word "of," strike out the words "and during." the Uintah1 White River, and Uncompahgre nands of Ute Mr. LAGUARDIA. .Mr. Speaker, I would like to have the Indians in the State of Utah for certain lands, and for other gentleman from Louisiana explain this bill. I would like to purposes ; to the Committee on Indian Affairs. know something about it. S. 1251. .An act for the relief of the Ayer & Lord Tie Co. :Mr. O ' CO~TNOR of Louisiana. Mr. Speaker and Members of (Inc.) ; to the Committee on Claims. the House, I wish to thank the members of the Committee on S.1812. An act to authorize the collection of annual stati - Military Affairs for their gracious attitude toward me in taking tics relating to crime, and to the defective, dependent, and de up this bill important to the State National Guard of Louisiana. linquent classes; to the Committee on the Census. I wish also to thank the many Members of the House who, at S. 2010. An act for the relief of Clatsop County, Oreg. ; to my solicitation, haYe di played an unusually lively interest in the Committee on Claims. thi bilL I wish to thank the Speaker for his courteous attitude S. 3409. An act to provide for the collection and publication and his a surance that if the committee found itself in a condi of statistic of peanuts by the Department of Agriculture; to tion that it could no longer carry on to-day and I could make a the Committee on Agriculture. ·how of emergency on the floor as a preliminary to the motion . 3594. An act authorizing appropriations for the construc I would make to take the bill up out of order he would recognize tion and maintenance of improvements neces ary for protection me for that purpose. of the national forests from fire, and for other purpo ·e ; to The reading of the bill, Mr. Speaker, by the Clerk of the the Committee on Agriculture. House will show its importance to one of the finest military S. 4051. An act authorizing tile Pillager Band of Chippewa organizations in the United States. That organization will go Indians, residing in the State of Minne ota, to submit claims out with the Regular Army on any fateful day that the bugle to the Court of Claims; to the Committee on Indian Affairs. of our country sounds the equivalent to " fall in," " forward S. 4325. An act to amend subchapter 5 of chapter 18 of the march" to victory or to death. The State National Guard of Code of Law for the DLtrict of Columbia by adding thereto a Louisiana is really the heir to the history, traditions, and the new section to be designated section 648-a ; to the Committee fortunes of the immortal Washington Artillery, which in addi on the District of Columbia. tion to its many notable engagements covered itself with fadeless S. 4358. An act to authorize transfer of funds from the general glory in its unparalleled covering of the withdrawal of Lee's revenue of the District of Columbia to the revenues of the army from Getty burg. water department of aid District and to provide for transfer I was an active member of that artillery in my younger years of jurisdiction over certain property to the Director of Public and sub equently enjoyed the distinction of being made a.n Buildings and Public Parks ; to the Committee on the Di trict honorary member by that great command. I served it proudly of Columbia. in the constitutional convention of Louisiana of 1898, when it S. J. Re .171. Joint resolution·to amend section 5 of tile joint required legislative aiu. I served it as a member of the Legis resolution relating to the National Memorial Commission, ap lature of Louisiana from 1900 to 1912, during which years it proved March 4, 1929; to the Committee on Public Buildings needed legislative friends, and I have served with pride and and Grounds. affection its heirs, the State National Guard, in the Congress of S. J. Re . 182. Joint resolution prohibiting location or erection the United States whenever the commanding officers of the of any wharf or dock or artificial fill or bulkhead or other guards made any request upon me to render them service. I am tructure on the shores or in the waters of the Potomac River proud of that institution. Louisiana is proud of it. The State within the District of Columbia without the approval of the National Guards have occupied the Jackson Barracks for years, Commis ioners of the District of Columbia and the Director a permit having been granted to them by the Secretary of War, of Public Buildings and Public Park of the National Capital; with my consent and approval, as the barracks are in my dis to the Committee on the District of Columbia. trict. The old place has a wonderful history behind it. It was acquired by the United States in 1846 for approximately S46,000. ENROLLED DILLS SIGNED I do not know what the property is worth t<>-day, but it is Mr. CAl\IPBELL of Pennsylvania, from the Committee on ab olutely certain, 1\Ir. Speaker and Members of the House, that Enrolled Bills, reported that that committee had examined and if the property has increased in value, it has not been due to any found truly enrolled bills of the House of the following title , effort on the part of the United States Government; that prop which were thereupon signed by the Speaker: erty has increased in value as a result of expenditures by the H. R. 937. An act for the relief of Nellie Hickey; and taxpayers of the city of New Orlean in extending the city H. R. 9806. An act to authorize tile construction of certain through paved streets, for which they have paid; for putting up bridge and to extend the times for commencing and completing choolhouses, for which they have paid; for extending the light the con truction of other bridges over the navigable waters of ing ystem, the water system, and the sewer sy tern of the city the United State . of New Orleans, and any accretion that has come in value to the property is due to the taxpayers of the city of New Orleans. BILLS PRES~TED TO THE PRE IDE .~:~ T The property will continue to increase in value from year to Mr. CAMPBELL of Pennsylvania, from the Committee on En year, and therefore it is a most desirable investment for the rolled Bills, reported that that committee did on thi day pre Federal Government to make in giving the use of historic prop sent to the President, for his approval, bill of the House of the erty to our famous National Guard. l\Iy distinguished friend following titles : Congres man STAFFORD, of Wisconsin, will move the passage of H. R.11965. An act making appropriation for the legislative the bill. l\fy friend Congressman LAGUARDIA, who knows as branch of the Government for the fiscal year ending June 30, much about military affairs as any man in the United States, 1931, and for other pm·poses ; will be glad to vote for this bill. I hope the Senate will ac H. R. 12302. An act granting pensions and increase of pen cept the House report instead of asking for a I'eport from the sions to certain soldiers and sailors of the Civil War and cer Secretary of War and expeditiously pass this bill when it is tain widows and dependent children of soldiers and sailor of reported out by the Senate Committee on Military Affairs, which said war; will be, indeed, "good tidings of a great joy" to my many H. R. 937. An act for the relief of Nellie Hickey ; and friends in the State National Guard of Louisiana. H. R. 9 06. An act to authorize the construction of certain The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the amend bridges and to extend the t:mes for commencing and complet ment. ing the construction of other bridges over the navigable waters The amendment was agreed to. of the United States. The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, was read the third time, and passed. ADJOURNMENT A motion to reconsider the last vote was laid on the table. Mr. RANSLEY. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now LEAVE OF .ABSENCE adjourn. Mr. BLooM, by unanimous consent, was granted leave of The motion was agreed to; accordingly (at 5 o'clock and 20 absence for an indefinite period on account of illness in his minutes p. m.) the House adjourned until to-morrow, Friday, family. June 6, 1930, at 12 o'clock noo~ 1930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10153 COMMITTEE HEARINGS 1794). Referred to the Committee of the Whole House on the Mr. TILSON submitted the following tentatiYe li 't of com state of the Union. mittee hearings scheduled for Friday, June 6, 1930, as reported Mr. VINSON of Georgia: Committee on Naval Affairs. H. R. to the floor leader by clerks of the several committees: 11367. A bill to provide for certain public works at Parris Island, S. C.; with amendment (Rept. No. 1795). Referred to COMMITTEE ON ELECTION!? NO. 1 the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union. (10 a.m.) Mr. WAINWRIGHT: Committee on Military Affairs. H. R. To consider the contested-election case between Representa 11409. A bill to authorize the erection of a tablet in the Fort tive Lours LUDLOW and former Representative Ralph Updike. Sumter Military Reservation to the memory of the garrison at COMMITTEE ON MILITARY .AFFAIRS Fort Sumter during the siege of 1861 ; without amendment (Rept. No. 1796). Referred to the Committee of the Whole (10 a.m.) House on the state of the Union. To authorize appropriations for construction at milita1·y posts Mr. MoSWAIN: Committee on 1\Iilitary Affairs. H. R. 9893. (H. R. 2754). A bill to provide a military status for certain American citi COMMITTEE ON NAVAL AFF.llRS zens; with amendment (Rept. No. 1800). Refen-ed to the (10.30 a. m.) Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union. Authorizing the Secretary of the Navy to accept, without cost to the Government of the United States, a lighter-than-air base REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PRIVATE BILLS AND near Sunnyvale, in the county of Santa Clara, State of Cali fornia, and construct neceEsary impro-vements thereon (H. R. RESOLUTIONS 6810). . Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, Authorizing the Secretary of the Navy to accept a free site Mr. WOLVERTON: Committee on Military Affairs. H. R. for a lighter-than-air base at Camp Kearny, near San Diego, 1501. A bill for the relief of William H. Connors; with amend Calif., and construct neces~ary improvements thereon (H. R. ment (Rept. No. 1788). Referred to the Committee of the 6808). Whole Hom:e. Mrs. KAHN: Committee on Military Affairs. H. R. 6491. A EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, ETC. bill for the relief of John J. Mullen; with amendment (Rept. No. 1789). Referred to the Committee of the Whole House. under clause 2 of Rule XXIV, executive communications Mr. WURZBACH: Committee on Military Affairs. H. R. were taken from the Speaker's table and referred as follows: 10113. A bill for the relief of Uriel Sliter; with amendment 528. A communication from the President of the United (Rept. No. 1790). Refened to the Committee of the Whole States, u·ansmitting supplemental estimate of appropriation for House. the Navy Department for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1931, l\1rs. KAHN: Committee on Military Affairs. H. R. 10326. in the amount of $5,532.26, to defray the expenses of the United A bill for the relief of William H. Stroud; without amendment' States Marine Band, in attending the national encampment of ( Rept. No. 1791). Referred to the Committee of the Whole the Grand Army of the Republic, to be held at Cincinnati, Ohio House. (H. Doc. No. 448); to the Committee on Appropriations and Mr. lUGSW AIN: Committee on Military Affairs. H. R 8784. ordered to be printed. A bill for the relief of Leonard Theodore Boice; without amend· 529. A communication from the President of the United ment (Rept. No. 1797). Referred to the Committee of the Statel'l, transmitting supplemental estimate of appropriation for Whole House. the Department of Agriculture for the fiscal year 1931, for the Mr: WURZBACH: Committee on Military Affairs. H. R. 672. relief of the State of Georgia,· $506 067.50, and the State of A bill for the relief of Walter W. Adkins; with amendment South Carolina, $805,561, in reconstructing roads and bridges (Rept. No. 1798). Referred to the Committee of the Whole damaged or destroyed by floods in 1929, in all $1,311,628.50 House. (H. Doc. No. 449); to the Committee on Appropriations and Mr. McSWAIN: Committee on Military-Affairs. H. R. 11529. ordered to be printed. A bill for the relief of William J. Bodiford; without amend 530. A communication from the President of the United ment (Rept. No. 1799). Referred to the Committee of the States, transmitting supplemental estimate of appropriation, for Whole House. the Department of State for the fiscal year 1931, amounting to $10,000, for salary of an envoy extraordinary and minister PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS plenipotentiary to the Union of South Africa (H. Doc. No. 450) ; to the Committee on Appropriations and ordered to be Under clause 3 of Rule XXII, public bills and resolutions printed. were inh·oduced and severally referred as follows: 531. A communication from the President of the United By l\1r. HOUSTON of Hawaii: A bill (H. R. 12788) to au States, transmitting two supplemental estimates of appropria thorize the establishment of a Coast Guard station on the tions for the War Department for the fiscal year ending June south coast of l\faui, in the Territory of Hawaii; to the Com 30, 1930--namely, survey flood control, Choctawhatchee River, mittee on Interstate and .Foreign Commerce. Fla. and Ala., $14,000, and maintenance and operation Panama By Mr. McMILLAN: A bill (H. R. 12789) to authorize an Canal toward consh·uction of .a ferry and highway near the appropriation for the purchase and erection of a monument of Pacific entrance of the canal, $500,000, both sums to remain Maj. Gen. William ·Moultrie; to the Committee · on Military available until expended (H. Doc. No. 451); to the Committee ~ljfairs. on Appropriations and ordered to be printed. By l\Ir. MILLER: A bill (H. R. 12790) providing that in 532. A communication from the President of the United States, computing the six years' ser""ice required for promotion in the transmitting supplemental estimate of appropriation in the sum Navy from warrant to chief warrant rank, all active service of $2,500, for the War Department, for the fiscal year ending of warrant or commissioned officers in the National Naval Vol June 30, 1930, to remain available until June 30, 1931 (H. Doc. unteers shall be counted; to the Committee on Naval Affairs. No. 452) ; to the Committee on Appropriations and ordered to By -Mr. BRITTEN: Resolution (H. Res. 23'9) to appoint a be printed. subcommittee on naval affairs relative to the establishment of 533. A communication from the Pre~ident of the United States, an air base on the Pacific coast ; to the Committee on Rules. transmitting supplemental estimate of appropriation for the D~ By Mr. LEHLBACH: Resolution (H. Res. 240) to create a partment of State for the fiscal year 1931, to remain available select committee to investigate the United States Shipping until June 30, 1932, amounting to $~5,000, and a draft of pro Board; to the Committee on Rules. posed provision of an existing appropriation (H. Doc. No. 453) ; to the Committee on Appropriations and ordered to be printed. PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, private bills and resolutions REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PUBLIC BILLS AND were introduced and severally referred as follows: RESOLUTIONS By Mr. ACKERMAN: A bill (H. R. 127Dl) granting an in~ Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, crease of pension to Mary Agnes Brown; to the Committee on Mr. PARKER : Committee on Interstate and Foreign Com.. Invalid Pensions. merce. S. 3619. An act to reorganize the Federal Power Com- By Mr. CLARKE of New York: A bill (H. R. 12792) granting mission; with amendment (Rept. 1793). Referred to the Com- an increase of pension to Agnes C. Gill; to the Committee on mittee of the Whole House on the state of the Union. Invalid Pensions. Mr. MILLER: Committee on Naval Affairs. H. R. 9231'. A By Mr. CRAIL: A bill (H. R. 12793) granting an increase of bill providing for the acquirement of additional lands for the I pension to Lavinia C. Preston; to the Committee on Invalid naval air station at Seattle, Wash.; with amendment (Rept. No. Pensions. • 10154 CONGR.ESSION AL RECORD-SEN ATE JUNE 6 By Mr. DOUGHTON: A bill (H. R. 12794) for the relief of Oklahoma, urging pa age of the Couzens joint resolution pro W. E. McNeill, Lee Allman, and John Allman, stockholders of viding for the temporary suspension of consolidation of rail McNeill, Allman Construction Co. (Inc.), and W. E. McNeill, roads until Congre s provides protection for the railroad em uis ·olution agent of the McNeill-Allman Construction Co. ; to ployees as well as the public; to the Committee on Inter.., tate the Committee on the Judiciary. and Foreign Commerce. By Mr. HULL of Wisconsin: A bill (H. R. 12795) granting a 7483. By Mr. PEAVEY: Resolution from the County Board of pension to Catherine Millet; to the Committee on Invalid Pen Sawyer County, Wis., protesting the use of butter ub titutes ions. in State and Federal institutions, becau e such substitute CUl' By Mr. KIESS: A bill (H. R. 12796) granting an increase of tail the farmer's market, set a bad example for private in pen ..Jon to Matilda IIurer; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. stitutions and indiYiduals, and impair the health and entlanger By Mr. KI~CHELOE: A bill (II. R. 12797) granting an in the lives of those per ons \"\·ho subsist thereon ; to the Com crea. e of pension to Burley L. Van Fleet; to the Committee on mittee on Agriculture. Invalid Pensions. 7484. By Mr. S::\IITII of West Virginia: Re olution by the By 1\lr. KINZER: A bill (H. R. 12798) for the relief of John Crawford Bu ines Men's League, of Chicago, urging the pas. age K. Lintner; to the Committee on Naval Affairs. of legislation which shall check the monovoly of the chain-store By Mr. McMILLAN: A bill (H. R. 12799) for the relief of system; to the Committee on Inter..., t ate and Foreign Com Nellie Philips France ; to the Committee on Claims. merce. By ;.rr. SMITH of We t Virginia: A bill (II. R. 12800) grant ing a pension to Martha J. Hannah; to the Committee on Invalid SENATE Pensions. FRIDAY, June 6, 1930 PETITIONS, ETC. (Legi.s~ati-ve day ot Th:ttrsdO!y, May 29, 1990) Under clau e 1, of Rule XXII. petitions and papers were laid The Senate met at 12 o'clock meridian, on the expiration of on the Clerk' de~ k and referred a follows: the rece s. 7469. By :\lr. BOY~~: Letter from Overseas Automotive The VICE PRE !DENT. The Senate "ill receive a me sage Club, of New York City, opposing the pas age of the tariff from the Hou e of Repre...~ntatives. act ; to the Committee on Ways and 1\leans. ~470. Also, letter from Redfield-Downey-Odell Co., New York MESSAGE FRO:ll THE HOUSE City, opposing House bill 11096, which provides for a postage A message from the House of llepre entative by Mr. Halli charge of 5 cent for directory service to be collected from the gan, one of its clerks, announced that the House had agreed to sender of all mail that requires such service; to the Committee the report of the committee of conference on the disagreeing on the Post Office and Po t Roads. votes of the two Houses on the amendments of the Senate to 7471. By Mr. CRADDOCK: Petition of the Woman's Tem the bill (H. R. 10175) to amend an act entitled "An act to pro perance Union, of Campbellsville, Ky., at its April meeting vide for the promotion of vocational rehabilitation of persons adopted a resolution petitioning the Congress to enact a law disabled in industry or otherwise and their return to civil em for the Federal supervision of motion pictures establishing ployment," approved June 2, 1920, as amended. higher standards before production for films that are to be The me ~ sage also announced that the Hou e had pas ed tbe licen..,ed for interstate and international commerce, signed by bill (S. 4017) to amend the act of May 29, 1928, pertaining to Lula Smith, .. ecretary, and Lottie Smith, president; to the certain War Department contracts by repealing the expii·ation Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. date of that act, with an amendment, in which it reque ted the 7472. By Mr. GARBER of Oklahoma: Petition of county concurrence of the Senate. clerk, Oklahoma City, Okla., in support of House bill 10366 ; The mes age further announced that the IIouse had pa ed to the Committee on Claims. the following bills, in which it requested the concurrence of the 7473. Also, petition of Carpenters Local No. 763, Enid, Okla., Senate: in support of Sproul bill, H. R. 0323; to the Committee on ll. R. 1420. An act to authorize the Secretary of War to loan Labor. atronautical equipment and material for purpose · of research 7474. Also petition of Division 030, Brotherhood of Locomo and experimentation; tive Engineer , Enid, Okla., in support of Couzens resolution ; H. R. 2030. An act to authorize an appropriation for the pur to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. chase of land adjoining Fort Bli , Tex. ; 7475. Al o, petition of Immigration Study Commi ion, acra H. R. 2755. An act to increa e the efficiency of the Veterinary mento, Calif.; to the Committee on Immigration and Nat Corps of the Reoooular Army ; uralization. H. R. 6340. An act to authorize an appropriation for construc 7476. Also, petition of Edwin Murphy, acting department tion at the Mountain Branch of the National Home for Di - commander, department of Florida, United Spanish War Vet abled Volunteer Soldiers, Johnson City, Tenn:; eran , in support of bill establishing branch of National Soldiers' H. R. 6871. An act to amend the acts of March 12, 1926, and Home in Southeastern States; to the Committee on Military March 30, 1928, authorizing the ale of the Jack on Barracks Affairs. Military Reservation, La., and for other purpo es; 7477. Also, petition of Train Dispatchers' As ociation, Okla H. R. 749f.). An act authorizing an appropriation for improve- homa City, Okla., in support of Couzens resolution, S. J. Res. ment at the Guilford Courthouse National Military Park; 161; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. H. R. 8159. An act to authorize appropriation for con truc 7478. Also, petition of Western Regional Association of Sys tion at the United States Military Academy, West Point, N. Y.; tem and/or Terminal Boards of Adjustment, Brotherhood of Fort Lewis, Wash.; Fort Benning, Ga. ; and for other purpoQes; Railway and Steamship Clerk , Freight Handlers, Expre s, and H. R.11405. An act to amend an act approved February 25, Station Employee , Denver, Colo., in full upport of Couzens 1929, entitled "An act to authorize appropriations for con re olution; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Com " tructlon at military posts, and for other purpo es" ; and merce. H. R. 12263. An act to authorize the acquisition of 1,000 acres 7479. By Mr. HALL of Mississippi: Telegram of FlOiian of land, more or less, for aerial bombing range pu1·po es at Yo te, president Retail Jewelers' Association, Vicksburg, 1\iiss., Kelly Field, Tex., and in settlement of certain damage claim . urging Rules Committee to secure special ruling on Capper Kelly fair trade bill; to the Committee on Interstate and For ENROLLED BILLS .AND JOrNT RESOLUTION STG~Jro eign Commerce. The mes age also announced that the Speaker had affixed his 7480. AI o, telegram of A. E. Wallace, president Brother sjgnature to the following enrolled bills and joint resolution, hood Railway Clerks, Hattiesburg, 1\Iiss., urging adoption of and they were signed by the Vice President: Couzens joint re olution, uspending consolidation of railroads; S. 1906. An act for the appointment of an additional circuit to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. judge for the fifth judicial circuit; 7481. Also, petition of citizens of Lumberton, Miss., not to S. 3493. An act to provide for the appointment of an addi· recommend the calling of an international conference by the tiona! circuit judge for the third judicial circuit; President of the United States or the acceptance by him of an H. R. 851. An act for the relief of Richard Kii·chhoff ; invitation to participate in such a conference for the purpose H. R. 1158. .An act for the relief of Eugene A. Dubrule; of revising the present calendar unless a proviso be attached · H. R. 1160. An act for the relief of Henry P. Biehl ; thereto definitely guaranteeing the preservation of the con H. R. 3175. An act to authorize Lieut. Commander James C. tinuity of the weekly cycle without the in ertion of blank days; Monfort, of the United States :Navy, to accept a decoration con to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. ferred upon him by the Government of Italy ; 74 2. By Mr. McKEOWN: Petition of the legislative rep1·e· H. R. 3257. An act for the relief of Ellen B. Monahan; sentative of the Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen, State of H. R. 3610. An act for the relief of William Geravis Hill;