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think, an inclination on the part of the Mr. McKELL: I will gh-e considera­ Government to make a stand and be deaf tion to the amendment of this measure to submissions that might well appeal to in another place. I have particularly bon. members on the Government side of in mind damages in respect of pain o~ the House as being reasonable. The Gov­ suffering. The bill might be allowed t(} ernment might, say. ""Ve want this go through. I assure the hon. mem~ measure to go through as it is, nu her that I will be careful to give· eonsid­ matter how reasonable any submissions eration to the matters that have been that are made may be." placed before hon. members. Mr. ]licK ELL: I do not think that the :Mr. TREATT (WDollahra) [4.50] :­ 'bon. member can suggest that! As the Committee has learned, I submit·. that the proposed amendment meets ade­ Mr. TREATT: I only hope that noth­ quately and justly a defect in the bilL ing of that sort will influence the Gov­ But I am not entirely unimpressed witln ernment in the consideration of this what the Premier ha& said, and having· amendment. regard further to the fact that he has: Mr. McKELL (Redfern), Premier promised that the objections from this-. and Colonial Treasurer [ 4.46] : I am not side of the Chamber will be met by arr prepared to accept the hon. member's amendment which can be inserted in the­ amendment. I do not agree that in its Legislative Council, I accept his sugges-­ present form it is reasonable, but I am tion, and will not press the amendment_ prepared to admit that some matters that Amendment (by leave) withdrawn. have been raised by the hQn. member for Bill reported without amendment;; VI' oollahra are worthy of further consid­ report adopted. eration, and I am prepared to consider them. This is not a matter about which House adjourned at 4.53 p.m. we can come to a conclusion now. As bon. members know, this is a highly tech­ nical bill, and there are many difficulties i!Jrginlatibr i\nn.rmbly. associated with its drafting. If an Thursday, 19 October, 1944. amendment is to be inserted it must be inserted with the utmost care, and after Questions without Notice--Third Reading-s-Com­ panies (D€-ath Dutie~) Amen,1m(:nt Bill-l.ea\'e­ the greatest consideration. I suggest of Ab~e11ce-Auctioneers, Stock a1"1fl StatioJJt that the hon. member should not press and Real Estate A~~nts (Amenrlment) . Bilt (sf-"conrl reading)'-Registratbn of B1rt~~,.. his amendment. If he does not I Deaths .and Marriages (+\mendment) B1ll (second reading)-Irrigation and 'Yater give the House an assurance that I will (Amendment) Bill-Physiotherapists RegiRtra­ consider his submissions with a view to tion Bill-Special Ad'joununent-Adjournment:: (Homebush Abattoir: Sheep and Cattle)­ seeing whether, in some measure, they Farming Implements: Shortagf- of Spare Parts)_ can be met by the framing of an amend­ ment. If I come to the conclusion that Mr. SPEAii:ER took the chair. they can, I shall be prepared to suggest The opening Pra;rer was read. to the leader of the House in another place that an amendment be drafted. QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE'~ Mr. TREATT: I take it that the Pre­ SCHOOL TEACHERS: ALLEGED mier does not want the measure de­ COMMUNISTIC PROPAGANDA. layed? :Mr. SHANNON: Has the attention Mr. McKELL: That is so. The bon. of the :Minister for Education beeu member will not help by delaying it. drawn to a recent press statement by This matter can be adjusted without the president of the Te?r;bPrs' Federa­ difficulty in another place. tion in which it was mentioned that the Mr. RIGHARDSOX: Does the Premier Minister had said that a teacher had jntend to consider the introduction of been dismissed from the Education De­ .another measure, or the amendment of partment for teaching Communist pro-­ ~his measure? paganda in 1932, and that after the case Questions and Answers. [19 OcT., 1944.] Questions and Answers. 531

had been investigated the teacher had received any complaints about them.. been reinstated without prejudice? If It is entirely untrue to say that I said the }finister has seen the stat-ement, wi1l that any teacher had .ever been dismissei! he inform the House whether it is from the Department of Education for ·accurate and, if not, what is the true teaching Communism in the schools. position? }ifr. HEFFRON: Jliiy attention was DIVORCE JURISDICTION: drawn to the statement that appeared CONGESTION. in the press and attributed to Mr. Mc­ Mr. JACKETT: In order to solve the Guinness, president of the Teachers' problem of the long-standing congestion Federation, to the effect that I had said in the divorce jurisdiction, will the ·Pre­ that a teacher had been dismissed from mier favourably consider appointing an the service for teaching communism iu assistant minister to the Attorney­ schools. Allegedly I said that during General? the course of my remarks in this House Mr. :McKELL: I do not think that some weeks ~go. Actually what I said the hon. member's suggestion is in imy had the opposite import, as may be found way helpful. The problem can be solved on reference to Hansard. My remarks without following any suggestion such were made in reply to an interjection as that and without causing any grave made by an hon. member of the Op­ difficulty. position. I said that I had been assured MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS: by the Director, of Education that at N01HNATIONS. no time had any complaints been made about any school teacher teaching com­ Jlifr. MATTHEWS: Will the Min­ munism in the schools, with the exception ister for Local Government say whe­ that a lady teacher had been charged with ther it is a fact that under the Local having taught communism in the schools Government Act it is obligatory for and that the Public Service Board had town clerks to call for nominations next held an inquiry into it. As a matter week? ·In view of the Government's de­ of fact, and owing to a lack of know­ cision to postpone the municipal .elec­ ledge of the details, what I said was not tions, will the Minister inform the House quite correct. \Vhat I should have said what is required of town clerks in the present situation? was that some years ago a lady teacher had been billed to give a lecture on "Life Mr. J. J. CAHILL : No directioDE in Soviet Hussia," and she was asked that would contravene the law in any by the then Director of Education for way can be given to the respective town an explanation concerning it. The lec­ clerks. I think the Act provides that ture was to have been given in a public certain action shall be taken. The only hall at :Manly, and the teacher declined intimation that I can give is that I hope to give the Director any explanation as to be able to bring down a bill in the to whether she had delivered it or not. very near future-probably during the Because of that it was considered that next sitting of Parliament-to postpo~~ she had transgressed some Public Ser­ the elections. I will consult my officers. vice Hegulation, and an inquiry was held to see whether some general statement by the Public Service Board. However. can be made'that municipal councils in the charge immediately broke down. the County of Cumberland need not gc· Those are the facts and, as I have said, on with their preparations for the elec­ I gave them somewhat incorrectly at the tions. That would be only fair. I am unable to say exactly what the legal time because of my lack of knowledge position is, but I will consult with my of the details. Hon. members will Under-Secretary in order to see whether probably recall that I did say something can be done soon to prevent that the school teachers of this municipal councils from incurring un• State stood very high in my esti­ necessary expense in connection with mation, and that at no time had I the elections. 532 Questions and Answers. [ASSEMBLY.] Questions and Answers.

WATER CONSERi7ATION: SNOWY is so, will the Minister acquire a piece RIVER SCHEME. of ground, at least for a playground and J\'Ir. SEIFFERT: Will the Premier kindergarten, before it has all gone? inform the House as to the progress Mr. HEFFROX: I am not aware of made by the special committee appointed the details of the matter referred to to inquire into the utilisation of the by the hon. member, but I am prepared waters of the Snowy River? Will the to give her question serious considera­ Premier say whether the committee has tion and to visit her electorate at the recommended the dual use of the Snowy earliest moment with a view to making waters for irrigation and hydro-electric a personal inspection. purposes, or solely for one or the other? Further, seeing that the Commonwealth, Victorian and New South \Vales Gov­ RAILWAYS: PARCELS OFFICE. ernments are directly concerned in the Mr. J. T. REID: I ask the Minister proposed undertaking, will the Premier for Transport whether he will give con­ arrange for an early conference between sideration to the reopening of the Rail­ the parties with the view to bringing way Parcels Office at the \Vynyard Sta­ this question of vital importance to a tion, or alternatively re-open the Parcels speedy and successful conclusion? Office in Challis House? Is it a fact that the discontinuance of these offices :M:r. lfcKELL: I am pleased to be has caused a great deal of inconvenience able to say that I have received the re­ to persons who wish to send small parcels port of the committee that was ap­ to country railway stations? pointed by the Government to consider the utilisation of the waters of the lfr. O'SULLIVAN: I shall ascertain Snowy River. The report is most vol­ the position, and let the hon. member uminous, and it would appear .at first know the result of my inquiry as soon glance that the committee has done a as possible. monumental work for the Government. EGG RATIONING. I might inform the hon. member that I have not yet examined the report, but lfr. G. C. GOLLAN: In the absence of I shall take it home at the week-end for the :Minister for Agriculture, can the the purpose of doing so, and when I Premier say whether it is a fact that the have done so I will bring the matter supply of eggs is likely to be rationed in under the notice of Cabinet. I am hope­ the near future? Is it also a fact that the ful that I shall then be able to present likely reduction in the production of the report to the House so that hon. eggs is due to the shortage of wheat ·members will be able to see exactly what offal? Can the Minister state whether consideration has been given to the mat­ any provision is being made to obviate ter, and what the recommendations of this unhappy position, and so materially the committee are. help the poultry farmers and the public in general? lfr. }.fcKELL: I am not aware of the BALMAIN EAST: FACILITIES FOR position as outlined by the hon. member. CHILDREN. He can rest assured, however, that the 1.1:rs. QUIRK: Will the Minister for Minister for Agriculture will take what­ ·Education say whether it is a fact that ever action is necessary to see that egg in the Balmain East area there are no production is maintained. facilities whatever for the numerous ·children? Is it also a fact that there J<'AR~HNG HARDWARE SUPPLIES. are no playgrounds, kindergartens, nur­ Mr. F. J. CAHILL: Will the Premier ·series or parks, but that there is vacant confer with the Minister for Agriculture ground that could be used for these pur­ and see whether priority supplies of bore­ poses, and that a private firm is buy­ casing, piping, corrugated iron and other iug up all the ground available? If this cssen.tial materials arc provided for Questions and Answers. [19 OCT., 1944.] Questions and Answers. 533

stock-owners and farmers in drought­ any corresponding advantage to the war stricken areas so as to enable them to effort, and to the "open go" allowed to cope with the problems of watering and the powerful racing and liquor interests feeding stock'? to debauch the public mind? Mr. McKELL: I shall be pleased to Mr. J\1:oKELL: I feel that to some ex­ take up the matter with the Minister tent the standard of morale in the com­ for Agriculture. munity is not so high as it was previ­ ously. With respect to the other por­ THE BUDGET, 1944-1945. tions of the hon. member's question, I J\{r. WEAVER: Is the Premier in a regard his suggestion as being not only position to inform the House of the stupid, but also insulting. approximate date when the Budget will Lt.-Oolonel BRUX:NER: Following be before this Assembly for discussion ? upon the reply given to the hon. member :\Ir. l\IoKELL: At the moment I am for Gordon, wherein the Premier admits unable to do so, but I am anxious to a lowering of public morale, will he bring the Budget before the House at give to the House his opinion as to the the earliest possible moment. Hon. cause of that decline? members will recollect that I stated some time ago that I thought the Public :\1r. SPEAKER: Order! The hon. mem­ Accounts should be presented in a new ber cannot under the standing orders ask form-a form that would be more in­ for an opinion. He may only ask a direct telligible and more simple, and easier question. The Premier may answer the for hon. members to follow. Treasury question if he wishes. officials have been investigating the matter with a view to devising a new form of presentation, but apparently COAL MINING: PREVENTION OF there are certain difficulties associated SILICOSIS. with the alteration of the form of the ?l!r. W. DAVIES: I ask the Minister Budget and those difficulties have occa­ for 1Iines whether he is aware of experi­ sioned a delay which I did not antici­ ments being carried out by the Federal pate. I was hopeful that the next Government to minimise the danger of Budget to be presented would be sub­ silicosis in coal mines? Is it a fact that mitted in the new form. At the moment, the experiments have been successful, however, I am afraid that if I wish to and that it is hoped by forcing water present the Budget in the new form under pressure into holes bored in the there will be some slight delay and I pillars to reduce considerably the inci­ am considering whether I should present it in the old form and give notice of dence of silicosis? If so, will the Min­ the legislation necessary so as to enable ister consider the advisability of making it to be submitted in the new form it compulsory for mine owners to treat next year. all pillars in this way before extraction takes place? PUBLIC MORALE. :Mr. BADDELEY: I have not seen the 1Ir. TURNER: I ask the Premier experiment, but I should be glad to do whether it is a fact that there has been as the bon. member wishes. I under­ an alarming decline in public morale in stand that water pressure has, been used, this State and especially in this city, resulting in an unwillingness to make as the hon. member describes, with a reasonable sacrifices to assist the war ef­ view to reducing the dust nuisance. As fort? Is it also a fact that this decline is to whether the new method reduces due in a large measure to the passive the danger of silicosis I cannot say, but attitude of the Government in regard to I am making inquiries and when I get industrial disputes, resulting in. hard­ some definite information on the matter ~hip and suffering to the public without I shall let the l1on. member know of it. 534: Questions and Answers. [ASSEMBLY.] Questions and Answers.

RAILWAY PARCELS OFFICE: there should be no barriers or boun­ CHATSWOOD. daries in engaging its labour, and that 1.fr. BRAIN: I ask the Minister for because a returned soldier or civilian Transport whether it is a fact that re­ cannot obtain a residence in Canberra, cently a parcels office has been built at he should not be refused employment? Chatswood Railway Station? If so, will :Further, if the Commonwealth authority the Minister ascertain and advise the will not agree to a reciprocal arrange­ House the cost of such building? ment with the New South Wales Gov­ Mr. O'SULLIVAN: I shall inquire ernment, will the Premier have a simi­ into the matter and let the hon. member lar rule adopted in engaging labour for know the result as early as possible. State works? Mr. !fpKELL: I am not aware of the EDUCATION" FACILITIES: BORDER conditions with respect to the engage­ DISTRICTS. ment of labour by the Department of Ur. LA\YSON: I ask the 1.Iinister for the Interior, but I will take up the Education whether he is aware of the matter with the Commonwealth authori­ difficulty experienced by children in the ties and see whether it is possible to :Murray and border districts in securing oyercome the anomaly that the hon. adequate education, where it is necessary member has mentioned. for them to cross the river to schools in another State? Is it a fact that these WAR LOAN PUBLICITY. children are not eligible to sit for Mr. MACDONALD: Does the scholarship examinations in those Premier consider that during the .;;chools? Is it also a fact that the New campaign of the Second Victory Loan .3outh Wales department will not pro­ appeal in New South Wales there has vide transport to such schools for beEn an unsatisfactory and unworthy them? Will the Minister confer type of publicity and organisation in with the Victorian department with the nature of stunts, undignified cere­ a view to creating some uniform monies and scenes out of keeping with system to enable these children to the serious war situation and not worthy obtain reasonable education facilities of the State and calculated to undermine and to be treated as Australian children, the morale of the people? If the 'Premier irrespective of where they live? agrees with this viewpoint, will he make !h. HEFFROX: I am not aware of representations to the Federal authori­ all the details mentioned by the hon. ties that loan campaigns be conducted member for !furray. I shall look into as far as possible without loss of dignity, the matter and let him have a consid­ and with the absence of theatrical and ered reply next week. unnece~sary stunts? l!fr. McKELL: The responsibility for FEDERAL CAPITAL TERRITORY: ENGAGEMENT OF LABOUR. making the War Loan appeal a success is primarily that of the Federal Gov­ Mr. SEIFFERT: Will the Premier ernment. The form the appeal takes say whether it is a fact that when en­ is a matter exclusively within their gaging labour for work within the purview, and in >iew of their experience Federal Capital Territory, the Common­ i11 floating these loans, every one of which wealth Department of the Interior gi>es has been a success, it might be regarded preference to residents of Canberra? Is as improper for me to seek to impose it also a fact that this reacts most un­ favourably on residents of Queanbeyan upon the authorities concerned my which is just outside Commonwealth opinion as to the form the appeal T<:>rritory? With a view to discon­ should take. I am wholeheartedly tinuing this anomaly, will the Premier supporting the appeal as I have take up the question with the Com­ supported all previous loan appeals. monwealth authority and point out that To whatever extent I can help, Q'l:tes.'lunns and Answers. [19 OcT., 1944.] Questions and Answers. 535

.:my services will always be available to Mr. O'SULLIVAN: The question those charged with the responsibility of asked by the hon. member was raised ~onducting war loan campaigns. in the House last week by one or two hon. members who referred to the seri­ our loss in chicks due to transport diffi­ BROKE~ HILL RAILWAY STATION. culties. I asked the Commissioner for Mr. HORSINGTON: Is the Minis­ Railways to do everything possible to ·.ter for Transport aware that the Com­ prevent the loss of chicks. He has missioner for Uailways consistently re­ promised to do so, and I hope to be able fuses to make improvements to the to inform hon. members at an early date Broken Hill Railway Station-probably what the Commissioner proposes to do in the worst station in any large town in order that chicks can be transported a:> the State-on the ground that the con­ quickly as possible without loss. ::Struction of a new station is contem­ plated nearer the city. Can the 111:inis­ GOFF'S HARBO"CR: CROSS-COUNTRY ter say when work on the new station R-AILWAY. is likely to be commenced? li:Ir. VINCENT: I ask the Premier Mr. O'S'C"LLIV AN: I know that after whether it is a fact that the State has -the war a number of railway stations expended upwards of a sum of £1,000,000 are to be renovated or rebuilt. That is in the establishment of a deep-sea port whv the Commissioner has refrained at Coff's Harbour, and whether that har­ ·fro~ spending money on some of the bour at the present time is capable of railway stations. \Yhether or not the accommodating two vessels each of railway station at Broken Hill is to be 10,000 tons? If these statements are rebuilt, and, if so, how quickly the facts, will the Premier give considera­ work can be carried out, I do not know tion to the building of a railway to the :at this juncture, but I will make in­ interior known as the Dorrigo-Guyra-In­ -quiries and advise the hon. member verell line which would open up the great hinterland and enable produce to next week. be transported direct to Coff's harbour~ J\Ir. .M.cKELL: I congratulate the PRE~HER'S AKSWER TO QuESTION. hon. member on selecting to-day to ask :M"r. TURNER: I desire to ask the this question, because I assume that Premier whether it is a fact that the had his colleagues, the hon. mem­ 1.nsulting reply given by the Premier ber for Lismore and the hon. member

of !waring the representations separately there? If these are facts, will the llfin­ it \n,uld be advisable to meet the repre­ ister give consideration to gTanting au sentatives of all the zones at one early priority to the construction of the conference, when I would be in a railway from Darrigo to Guyra, which position to hear the views of the dif­ has already been approved by this Parlia-­ ferent zones in regard to their ment? respective claims. A very fine feeling Mr. J. J. CAHII.L: It is a fact that prevailed at that conference, and each the amount of money mentioned by the_ of the representatives expressed the opinion that at least one port should be hon. member has been spent on Coff's developed immediately. They said that Harbour. Hailway construction comes­ they did not want any claims they might under the jurisdiction of the :Minister make to prejudice the establishment of for Transport, and at the moment I at least one port, but of course each body have no knowledge as to whether the felt that the claims of its particular area Government has given consideration to were paramount. I listened to those the matter raised by the hon. member._ representations, and am now giving them However, following upon what the Pre­ nttention. :My idea is that very careful mier stated, I think I can assure the consideration should be given to the hon. member that when the establish­ claims of the different regions concerned ment of a particular deep-sea port ha& and that we ought then, with the advice been determined upon, the desirability of our experts, to be able to come to a of constructing a railway to it will be conclusion as to which particular port taken into consideration. Representa­ should be developed to the fullest extent. tives of Coff's Harbour who saw me on That does not mean that if we decide to the subject, were given an assurance to­ develop one port we shall not develop the others also, but it would seem that that effect, and I know that before the 0ne in particular should have first con­ matter is finally determined the repre­ sideration with respect to development. sentations made by the hon. member for­ I did suggest at the conference that per­ Raleigh, which have been previously pre­ haps the proposed regional development sented, will be given consideration. committees for the regions concerned l\fr. McKELL: Supplementing the might consider the matter with a view answer that I gave to the hon. member­ to deciding whether- or not a combined for Raleigh, I want him to appreciate conference of representatives could the fact that an amount of money has; suggest one port that should have prior­ ity. I understand that that proposal is been set aside this year for each of the not practicable, but the House can rest ports to which I referred, also that in assured that the whole matter is having the plans for post-war reconstruction a the very careful consideration of the specific amount is provided for the pur­ Government, and I hope to be able in the pose of port development; therefore, a not distant future to make some proposal to giYe attention to the one port announcement as to which port should does not mean that the other ports will be developed primarily. When such a be neglected. decision is reached the House -will be informed. RAILWAYS: DUPLICATION AND ELECTRIFICATION. l\Ir. VINCENT: I address a question to the l\finister for Public '\Yorks, com­ Mr. HILL: Will the :Minister for plementary to one that I asked of the Transport say whether it is •a fact that Premier. Is it a fact that the State has the duplication of the railway line expended a sum of approximately between Parramatta and St. Marys i& £1,000,000 on the development of a deep­ almost completed, and whether it is the sea port at Coff's Harbour, and that a intention of the Commissioner to elec­ deep-sea port has now been established trify that line when completed? If it is Questions and Answers. [19 OcT., 1944.£ Questions and Answers. 537 not intended to electrify the whole sec­ Mr. O'SULLIVAN: The Government. tion immediately, will the Minister con­ has already set up a committee which i&. sider the question of the electrification taking into consideration the whole of of the portion from Parramatta to the transport systems of the State, more. Blacktown? especially the transport systems in the. metropolitan area. On that committee is 1Ir. O'S ULLIVA:N: The position as the chairman of the Metropolitan \Vater, put by the hon. member is correct. How Sewerage •and Drainage Board, Mr. far it is proposed to €lectrify the line I Upton, the Commissioner for Railways,. am not yet in a position to say, but I Mr. Hartigan, the Commissioner for feel that we ought to go right through Road Transport and Tramways, Jl.:ir. to Mt. "Victoria with the electrification, Neale, the Commissioner for :JI.1:ain instead of stopping half-way. However, Hoads, Mr. Craig, Mr. Grouse, the Sec­ I can understand ho'w anxious the hon. retary, Ministry of Transport, a repre­ member is to have the line electrified, sentative of the Premiers' Depart­ and if I can bring it about I shall be ment and representatives of other only too happy to do so. bodies. That committee is work­ 1Ir. FIN~ AN: When the :Minister is ing out a scheme with a· view to meet­ considering the question of electrifying ing the requirements of the people iwt. the railway from Parramatta to Black­ only in the metropolitan area, but also town, and perhaps farther, will he take throughout the State. It is taking into. into consideration the importance of consideration the building of the eastern towns such as \Vindsor, Richmond and suburbs railway, and also the provision. Kurra.iong, which are farther along that of better roads. However necessary a. line, and see that they are included in railway might be in the eastern suburbs,. the scheme of electrification? the work could not be started until prob-· ably after the war, and that might be in Mr. O'SULLIVAN: At some other two or three years' time. It is, therefore,. time I should like to tell the hon. mem­ necessary to make alternative means of ber what the proposals are with regard transport ayailable to meet the require­ to the electrification of the railway ments of people in that area. The system. I do not say they will be carried arrangements are in hand, and the work out forthwith, but if it is possible the will be put into operation as soon as hon. member's representation will have possible. favourable consideration.

WESTER~ LAXD' LEASES. EASTERN SUBURBS RAILWAY. 1\h. DAVIDSON: I ask the Minis­ Mr. TREATT: I ask the Minister ter for Lands whether it is a fact that for Transport whether it is a fact that a large tract of western lands leases in the congestion of traffic on all roads the late Sir Sidney Kidman's estate leading to the eastern suburbs, including has reverted to the Crown? Is it further those in the electorate of the 1Iinister a fact that there is a large number of himseH, is such that unless something is applicants for westen1 land leases, in­ done immediately after the war in the cluding many parents who are acting as attorney for their sons in the fighting way of providing alternative means of forces? Can the :JI.Gnister give the transport, the traffic conditions will be House any information as to when this. so serious as to be prejudicial to the wel­ land will be made available? fare not only of the citizens of the areas Mr. TULLY: A few weeks ago an area· affected, but also of residents of other of approximately 750,000 acres of land parts of the State who are visiting those known as Kidman leases reverted to thO' areas? If this is a fact, can the :Minis­ Crown. The present occupiers have been ter say what are the plans of the Gov­ asked to vacate this property as early as ernment regarding the building of the possible, and a caretaker will remain eastern suburbs railway? there to look after the improvements. 538 Questions and Answers. [ASSEMBLY.] Questions and Answers.

At the same time I have directed that Mr. JAMES McGIRR: It is a fact this area be spelled with a view to that the Government is constructing a solving the problems of over-stocking number of very excellent homes for the ;and erosion so that the property will be p~ople at W estmead, that they are in in a decent condition when made avail­ proximity to the railway station, and :able as additionals or originals to in­ that the Housing Commission has been -coming tenants. We are already mak­ negotiating with the Metropolitan \Vater, ing arrangements for part of the land Sewerage and Drainage Board in an en­ to be made available as early as possible. deavour to have completed an extension Mr. HORSINGTON: Is it a fact of sewerage services to those homes. rt ihat the land in question which has would be a great advantage to the people :reverted to the Crown is known as the of \Vestmead if the railway services to Quinyambie-Yandama leases? Is it also that centre were electrified, and I will .a fact that because of the shortage of raise the matter with my colleague, who, .surveyors, this land will not be available I know, is sympathetic in the matter, in for settlement to soldiers or anvone else an endeavour to have it done at the within twelYe months? If these are earliest possible moment. facts, will the Minister take early steps to increase the surveying staff in the BROADCASTING OF DEBATES. Western Division so that these lands ~fr. RENRHAW: Following on the may be surveyed and made available as question that I submitted to you on blocks as early as possible? Thursday last, :ilfr. Speaker, with refer­ }fr. Tl""LLY: It is a f>~ct that the ence to the broadcasting of Parliament­ :shortage of surveyors and land inspectors ary debates, I ask whether you are in the 1s militating against the early release of position to inform the House further on this land for settlement. At least 50 the subject? per cent. of the surveyors formerly em­ ployed by the Lands Department are on 1\fr. SPEAKER: I have been looking into military duties in the north, surveying the matter and have discovered that there airfields and so forth; consequently un­ are certain difficulties in the way of im­ til we can regain the seTvices of these plementing such a proposal. I am not men or obtain other field officers, we shall yet in a position to answer the hon. have difficulty in making the land avail­ member's question, but I hope to do so :able. I hope that in the near future next sitting day. some of the officers will return and addi­ tional field staff be obtained to enable BROOKLY~ LEVEL CROSSI~G. us to make the land available within the :Jfr. STOREY: Is the }finister for next twelve months. Transport ;vet in a position to make a WESTnfEAD: ELECTRIFICATION OF statement concerning the intention of RAILIYAY. the Commissioner for Railways and/or Mr. G. C. GOLLA X: I ask the l\fin- the Government in connection with the 1ster for Housing whether it is a fact elimination of the level crossing at that the Government has built a goodly Brooklyn? If not, will he see that some number of houses at Westmead, that the decision is made at a very early date? 1-fetropoliton \Vater, Sewerage and Mr. O'RULLTVAN: I am not in a Drainage Board has approved sewerage position to state whether it is the in­ -connectitms being made to the homes and that the new railway station at that tention of the Commissioner for 'Rail­ centre has been completed? If these are ways to eliminate the level crossing at facts, will the Minister take up with his Brooklyn. I do ln1ow that there are offi­ colleague and friend, the Minister for cers of the Department of Railways who Transport, the matter of extending tht> are against building a bridge or subway electrification of railway services to across the road at Brooklyn. I am aware "'estmead immediately? that an unfortunate accident occurred Questions and Answers. [19 OcT., 1944.) Questions and Answers .. 539 there, but that could happen anywhere may be best advised of the relative prior­ when the human element is involved. ity to be accorded to the can-iage of The matter has not yet been closed. various classes of goods within the over­ Mr. WR4.VER: Is anything proposed~ all limit set by the availability of coal. :Mr. O'SULLIVAR: The regrettable The Commonwealth Transport Priori­ accident at Brooklyn should never ties Committee met in llfelbourne on the ha,·e occurred, but the fact remains that 26th September, 1944, and far-reaching it did, and that a number of people lost recommendations on a number of mat­ their lives as a consequence. If the ex­ ters were made by the committee and pcmditure of mone.v could prevent a recur­ passed on to a Cabinet sub-committee rence of such a happening, it would be justified. The matter is still under con­ of the Federal Cabinet, which subse­ sideration and I will let the hon. member quently approved of the recommenda­ know just as quickly as I can when I tions. The recommendations regarding receive the final report. the supplementation of rail transport b;v road services were:- SANDY HOLLOW-MARYVALE (a) That in relation to the problem of RAILWAY. land movement of essential bulk long :Mr. HAWKIXS: \Vhen giving con­ haul tra'ffic, it must be accepted as a sideration to the construction of new general rule that such movement can be provided only by railway transport. railways in this State, will the Minister for Transport specially arrange that the (b) That in relation to livestock, timber, Commissioner for Railways will com­ cement, steel, building requirements, etc., road transport be expected to pro­ plete. tl'" "Australia. This and other circumstances It will be noted that the policy of the led, in September, 1944, to the Common­ Commonwealth Authority in regard to wealth Government's requesting the the transport of wool by road is: "That Commomvealth Minister for Transport to arrange an immediate meeting of the no movement of wool by road beyond Commonwealth Transport Priorities the limits imposed by existing regula­ Committee with a view to that com­ tory systems should be permitted. The mittee working out a scheme and mak­ movement of wool should be determined ing recommendations as to a procedure solely by the capacity of the railways whereby the State railway authorities to move such traffic." This means that 540 Questions and AnsweTs. [ASSEMBLY.] ThiTd Readings.

in this State wool may be carried by road Commonwealth authority, he has as­ vehicles without restriction under the sured me that if any cases involving following circumstances:- special hardship are brought under his (a) Where the distance travelled is not notice, he will have the position exam­ competitive with the raihvays for more ined with a view to determining whe­ than 50 miles. ther it is at all possible to give some (b) On journeys of any length to the measure of relief by authorising the use nearest practicable railway station. of road vehicles. (c) On any joumeys of reasonable length 1rhether compctiti•·e with the raihvays or otherwise to secure storage accom­ GOVERN~fENT INSURANCE OFFICE: modation for wool. CLAD£ FOR DA::\IAGES. It is the position also that arising out :Yir. HEFFHOX: The hon. member of recommendations made at the meet­ for Newtown asked me a question on ing of the Commonwealth Transport the 17th instant with respect to a claim Priorities Committee in Melbourne on the 26th September, 1944, a sub-com­ made by the Emnore Parents and Citi­ mittee of the Federal Cabinet has ap­ zens' Association for goods said to haYe proved of the setting up in each State been stolen and damaged from the of a priorities committee to deal with Enmore Public School. It was men­ day to day problems arising out of the tioned that the association had a com­ transport restrictions. In this State the prehensive policy with the Government committee will consist of representatives Insurance Office which had refused· to of the Commonwealth Director of Rail recognise the claim. Inquiries which I Transport, Commonwealth Director of have made on this matter have revealed Road Transport, Department of War that the policy in question is not one Organisation of Industry, the New which is known as a comprehensive South vVales Railways, and the Direc­ policy and, therefore, did not cover the tor of Emergency Road Transport for risk in question. It is, in fact, issued New South \Vales. to the Department of Education and not Applications for the use of road trans­ the association mentioned. I am in­ port be~·ond limits which would normallv formed that a claim was made in respect be authorised will be referred by th~ Director of Emergency Road Transport, to articles that were not stolen but New South \Vales, to the State Trans­ broken by vandals or thieves. Because port Priorities Committee, to which I the claim was outside the scope of the have referred. If a rail service cannot policy, it was refused. I am advised be provided it will be a matter for the that the policy in question, which ha5 Director of Emergency Road Trans­ been in existence since 1937, has proved port, New South \Vales, to determine adequate for the general purposes for as to whether the road service should which it was provided. However, I be authorised. This proczdure will ap­ shall ask the general manager to re­ ply except in the case of wool which, view this particular claim and will ad­ as alread,y stated, has been covered bv vise the hon. member further in n~gard specific policy as approved by a sub­ to it in due course. committee of the Federal Cabinet. I have discussed the whole question of the carriage of wool by road with the :Minister for Transport and the THIRD READINGS. Director of Emergency Road Transport, The following bills were read a third Mr. Neale. While on broad principles time:- and as regards any substantial move­ Law R-eform (Miscellaneous Provisions) ments of wool by road the Director must Bill. conform to the policy laid down by the Police Regulation (Amendment) Bill. Companies (Death Duties) [19 OcT., 1944.] Amendment Bill. 511

Cm.1PANIES (DEATH DUTIES) reading stage I will refer to the details AMENDMENT BILL. of the bill, but what I have said sets out Mr. McKELL (Redfern), Premier and its provisions in ·a general way. Colonial Treasurer) [11.55] : I move: Mr. Vr~cENT: Does not the foreign That leave be given to bring in a bill shareholder at the present time conform to amend in certain respect the Companies with the same conditions as the local (Death Duties) Act, 1901, and certain other shareholder? Acts; and for purposes connected there­ Mr. McKELL: The position is that ·with. there have been certain amendments to This is a short bill to amend in certain the Act. But it appears that there was respects the provisions of the Companies an omission, and the view has been held (Death Duties) Act of 1901. For the by certain people that the schedule does :information of those hon. members who not apply. New assessments were sent may not be familiar with the Companies out over a certain period, and in some {Death Duties) Act, I should like to say cases they were met; but in other ca:;es that it is a statute which makes pro­ the persons concerned said that they -vision for the collection of a death duty, would stand on their legal rights and following the death of shareholders, in would not meet the assessments. This Tespect of shares held in any company amending legislation will make the posi­ not incorporated in New South \Vales, tion secure. Some years ago a validat­ but which is carrying on within New ing bill was passed with respect to assess­ South Wales the business . of mining, ments over a certain period, but it seems pastoral or agricultural production, that there is still some legal doubt as timber-getting or the treatment of to whether certain assessments must be minerals. On the death of a member the met legally. I will explain the pos1t10n -company is required to make a return in more detail at the second reading to the Commissioner of Stamp Duties stage. giving such information as is necessary Mr. RICHARDSON: This legislation will to compile an assessment, and to pay the clear up certain doubts! ·duty on assessment. Mr. McKELL: Yes. I have no doubt The shareholdings affected are only that I can satisfy the House that such those which stand in foreign registers in is the case. There are two companies the names of persons domiciled outside concerned which have not met their as­ :the State, which cannot be taxed sessments, whereas the assessments have through the ordinary channels of the beeri met in all other cases. The persons ;Stamp Duties Act. concerned say that they are under no legal obligation to meet the assessments. Mr. Vr~CENT: Does "foreign" include This bill will clear up the position.

Mr. McKELL: Yes, and in that in­ LEAVE OF ABSENCE. terregnum or vacuum all the assessments :Motion (by Major Shand) agreed to: were met except in respect of two com­ panies. This is virtually a departmental That leave of absence for the remainder bill that has been submitted to me by of the present session be granted to Chris­ the Commissioner of Stamp Duties topher Baron Lethbridge, Esq., member for through the Treasury, and it seems to Corowa, on account of urgent private bu~i­ ness. me that it is unobjectionable from the point of view of the House, although AUCTIONEERS, STOCK AXD STATION possibly objectionable to persons who AND REAL ESTATE AGENTS are not legally bound to meet their (A:llEND}.fENT) BILL. assessme11ts. SECOND READING. :Mr. RrcnARDSOX: Other companies are Mr. McKELL (Redfern), Premier fulfilling their obligations 1 and Colonial Treasurer [12.8] : I move: Mr. McKELL: Yes; they are already That this bill be now read a second time. doing so without raising this legal ob­ Hon. members will recall that during jection. the last session of the 32nd Parliament, Mr. WEIR: An obligation intended by the Auctioneers, Stock and Station and the Legislature! Real Estate Agents Act, 1941, was passed, providing, inter alia, for the lic­ Mr. Mr.;KELL: There is no doubt ensing of agents of these types. To about that; but from the public point carry out this Act, provision was made of view, and from the viewpoint of for constituting a council of ten. The public officials, this is quite a proper and first council was provisional only, and reasonable thing to do. was to hold office until 30th June, 1942. Mr. TREATT (Woollahra) [12.5}: It was to comprise three licensed auc­ It appears from what the Premier has tioneers, three stock and station agents, said that there will be no objection to three real estate agents, and one prac­ this bill, but one is curious to learn tising solicitor, all of whom were ap­ whether the two companies to which he pointed by the Governor. The ten coun­ has referred share his views in regard cillors were to elect a chairman from to the matter. If no objection is raised their own ranks. The scheme of the by those two companies, which for some Act was that three separate rolls should reason have failed to meet a responsi­ be prepared; one for licensed auc­ bility, that is an end of the matter. tioneers, one for licensed stock and This legislation is retrospective, and station agents, and one for licensed real estate agents. On these rolls elections two companies contested their liabilities. were to have been held in May, 1942, While one accepts prima facie, the opin­ each body of electors electing three rep­ ion of the Premier in regard to the resentatives to hold office on the council legislation, one will await an elabora­ for three years as froll1 1st July, 1942. tion by the Premier di th~ 're~sons .As before, one official member, who had which have prompted the introduction to he a solicitor, was to be appointed by of thi.s bill. the Governor. Mr. McKELL: I shall be pleased i:o Folloll"ing the entry into the war of give the bon. member an opportunity to Japan in December, 1941, it was not read the statement from the Treasury considered practicable or desirable to on which the bill is based. He will then divert manpower and material into the have ample time to study the statement preparation of the rolls. before the second reading stage. On 29th ~Iay, 1942, therefore, in pur­ Question resolved in the affirmative. ported exercise of the power conferred upon me by Regulation 60 of · the Bill presented and read a first time. National Security (Supp~3mentary) Auctioneers, Stocl.' and Station [19 Ocr., 1944.] and Real Estate Agents. 543

Regulations, I made an Order continu­ was to hold office is extended from J uuc ing the members of the provisional 30, 1942, to June 30, 1943; the date for· council in office until 30th June, 1943. the elective council to take office is The Order went on to authorise post­ altered from July 1, 1942, to July 1,. ponement of the preparation of the rolls 1943; and the date from which the hold­ till a date to be appointed. Later 15th ing of triennial elections is to be calcu­ January, 1943, was proclaimed in this lated is altered from May, 1942, to 2\Iay,. regard, the rolls were prepared and elec­ 1943. tions held on 26th May, 1943. The Two technical defects are als() elected members took office on 1st July, remedied at the same time, both of 1943. Having regard to recent deci­ which are of a minor character. The sions of the High Court-particularly measure is entirely non-contentious and Victoria v. Commonwealth, 1942, will, I hope, be treated as such by the­ A.L.R. 363-the validity of Regulation House. \Vhen I made the order, the­ 60 of the National Security (Supple­ validity of which seems in doubt, it. mentary) Regulations, and of my Or­ was felt the proper thing in the cir­ der of 29th May, 1942, under it, is open cumstances, for we were at a most criti­ to question. Ron. members will see cal period for the nation and it did that ·the operation of the order is spent. not seem the time to waste manpower The periods referred to in it have and paper in conducting an election. elapsed, rolls have been collected, elec­ tions held, and the new council ha3 Mr. WEAVER (~evtral Bay) taken offi-ce. If the matter were allowed [12.16]: The originality and research to stand as it is now, and the validity of the legal luminaries of the State of my Order were attacked successfully, often make such measures necessary~ all registrations of auctioneers, stock but I can understand the desirability and station and real estate agents Df our reaffirming the principles in­ granted or renewed since 30th June, volved in this matter. As far as I can 1942, would be invalid; and all these see it is not only necessary but als0o persons would be liable to prosecution beneficial to pass this measure in order for carrying on business without a to confirm the original intention of the valid licence; and the elections of May, .legislature. 1943, would be invalid because of the inclusion on the rolls of many persons Mr. VINCENT (Raleigh) [12.17] ;. If not holding a valid licence. It is to any action that the Premier took in those critical times in this matter was obviate these possibilities that this bill is introduced. invalid, the measure should put the position right. The council has been in Even apart from this, however, some office, and its actions may be invalid amendment is desirable inasmuch as without this legislation. The council Section 8 ( 5) of the Act provides .for elections being held triennially from was actually elected in 1943, and that }fay, 1942, and for members to hold year should rightly become the start­ office for three years. The question ing point for the triennial elections .. ·which suggests itself immediately is: :Members of my party have no objection "Is the next election to be held in May, to the bill and it should have a speedy 1945, or May, 1946 ~" The bill contains passage through the House. t"l\·o clauses only, as hon. members will Question resolved in the affirmative .. have seen. It is made retrospective in operation to 29th May. 1942, and will Bill read a second time and reported' supplant my Order of that date. The from committee without amendment; date to which the provisional council report adopted. Registration of Births, [ASSEMBLY.] .Oeaths and ]J;[arriages Bill.

1:EGISTRATION OF BIRTHS, DEATHS, similar notation on the original entry. A~D MARRIAGES (AMEND:iliE:NT) Thereafter, every certified copy of the BILL. register entry must include the original SECOND READING. particulars and the marginal notation. :Yir. McKELL (Redfern), Premier A certificate of the kind referred to :and Colonial Treasurer [1~.20] : I earlier may, however, be issued, setting move: out merely the new or changed name, That this bill be now read a second time. and date and place of birth, all other particulars being omitted. That is all I do not propose to repeat at this stage there is to the measure, and I should the somewhat detailed explanation given perhaps again say that apart from the .on the motion for leave to introduce change of name provision, it is being .of the circumstances that warrant the implemented already-and has been for .enactment of the measure. Employers a number of years by the Registrar­ frequently require proof of the age of General. By its enactment the House ,employees-there are other circum­ will regularise a humane innovation stances too, such as having age ad­ calculated to avoid causing unwarranted :mitted 'for insurance purposes, in which distress to very many deserving people. this evidence is required. The view taken by the Government is that where Jltfr. RICHARDSON: Is there to be a :a confidence as to particulars of its smaller fee for extracts taken out under birth has been kept from a child, no the bill? good purpose is served by breaking the 1\fr. McKELL: I do not think that the >Confidence. Indeed, in the case of the fee is >ery high at present. On ques­ -adolescent, disclosure of such matters tions of apprenticeship employers want :may result in real damage, apart from certificates of birth to establish age, and .embarrassment and distress to the child it seems proper that the necessary par­ :and those it knows as its parents. At ticulars only should be supplied, not de­ the moment, all that the Registrar-Gen­ tails that might cause embarrassment -eral or a district registrar may legally and pain of mind to persons for whom .do is to issue a certified copy of the the certificates are issued. That is the .original birth entry. Paragraph (a) of present practice, and the measure gives .clause 2 authorises the Registrar-Gen­ it regularity. It does not apply a pro­ ·eral and district registrars, instead, to hibition against the issue of a full cer­ issue an extract from the original birth· tificate if such is required. •entry containing only those particulars .considered necessary, having regard to 1\Ir. HowARTH: Will legal procedure the purpose for which it is required. still be necessary for a person changing The full certified copy of the entry his name? will, of course, still be available when Jltir. 1\IcKELL: The bill does not alter required, for purposes such as proving the law in regard to the changing of a kinship and the like. Paragraph (c) of person's name. Where a change has been .clause 2 inserts in the Principal Act made and a notation placed on the certi­ R new section, to stand as section 23A. ficate, the certificate would be supplied 'This will authorise the Registrar-Gen­ in the ordinary way. eral, not a district registrar, where satis­ fied that a person has lawfully changed Jltfr. YL'\CEXT: The intention of a per­ his name, to record the change as a son to change his name must be pub­ lished in the public press! marginal note to the birth entry at the General Registry kept in Sydney. Where 1\fr. :McKELL: This is divorced from this is done, the Registrar-General will the procedure in relation to the chang­ give an appropriate direction to the dis­ ing of a name, which is not affected by trict registrar in charge of the original the bill. It applies only when the name :register and the latter must endorse a has been changed. If an application is Registration of Births, [19 OcT., 1944.] Deaths, and Marriages Bill. 545 made for a certificate the certificate Mr. McKELL: The hon. member may would be issued in the name shown on rest assured on that I the register. Mr. WEAVER: The Registrar­ Mr. VI'NcEXT: The bill says, "Where General is there to protect the commu­ the Registrar-General is satisfied that nity generally and is responsible for his any person has lawfully changed his interpretation of his duties. I have no ·name .... "I objection to the measure. Mr. McKELL: A name might be Mr. O'HALLORAN (Orange) -changed by deed poll at considerable cost, [12.31] : I •am glad to see the bill -

IRRIGATION AND WATER Mr. WEAVER: Whom will they object (A:VI.ENDMENT) BILL. to~ Ca]_.>cain DUNN (Mudgee) :Minister Captain DU~N: To the- Irrigation. for Gunservation [2.00 J : 1 move: Commission. That leave l>e given to bring in a bill Mr. \VEAYER: And its decision will be. to maKe proviswn ror sutJso1l uramage ancl final I surt,,ee dramage in <:ertain areas; to amend the Water Act, 1912-1943, the Irrigation Captain DLX.N: I would not call it. Act, 1912-1943, the Uro\Yn Lands Cunsoh­ actually final, but we would not carry; datwn Act, HILl, the Crown Lands (Amend­ out any drainage work unless we could ment) Act, 1902, the Irrigation (Amend­ ment) Act HH0 tllC \V ar l::ien-ice Land show the objectors that it was neces­ l::lettlement 'Act, i941, the \Venhvorth Irri­ sary, and would be of value to them. I gation Act, and certain other Acts in c~r­ do not think it would be necessary to. tam re~pects; to validate certain matters; carry the proposal farther than that. l and for purposes connected therewith. should be- willing to agree to a con-· Thi"- j_q a bill merely to amend the Irri­ ference between the Commission and the: gati.oll and \,Yater Acts, and the portions objectors to decide one way or the other. oi certam other Acts that are adminis­ I assume that the Commissioners would tered by the Water Conservation and Ir­ investigate very carefully before putting; rigation Commission. It contains a in such drainage works, and that even­ number of amendments - some im­ tually no serious difficulty would be· portant and some only minor machinery likely to occur. amendments-which have been found The Irrigation Act is being amended necessary as a result of experience-. The by making provision for the Minister mo:;t important amendment is the in­ for the time being charged with the ad­ sertion of a proposed new Part to en­ ministration of that Act to be- Chair­ able the Water Conservation and Irri­ man of the Commission in lieu of the­ gation Commission to construct sub-soil. Minister for Agriculture. Provision is; drainage works for the purpose of drain­ also made in the bill for the Minister ing th~o· sub-soil of land within irriga" charged with the administration of that. tion areas, irrigation districts and irri­ Act to exercise the powers of the Minis­ gation trusts and surface drainage works ter under the Crown Lands Act, and for the purpose of draining the surface certain other Acts with regard to irri­ of any land other than town lands. Sub­ gation areas. Hitherto, these powers soil drainage works are to drain the sub­ have been administe·red by the :Minister soil of land that has become adversely af­ for Agriculture. The- Irrigation Act­ fected by reason of poor natural drain­ names the J\{inister for Agriculture as age or other c:mscs. There has never been Chairman of the Commission. It is not: any properly constituted authority to proposed to name any Minister in this construct or control drainage works, and bill; I ha>e had delegated power since I where the Commission has carried out became J\Iinister for Conservation, and such work itself on the :Murray River this will yaJidate such delegated power. and elsewhere it has enormously im­ Certain provisions of the bill deal with proved the land so treated. the subdivision of irrigation farms. IV e­ Drainage works may be constructed need some power to control the subdivi­ only after the proposal has been pub­ sion of these farms, as subdivision is often lished and bnd holders have been give-n a proceeding that is unwarranted. A man an opportunity to object to it, if they who owns a farm that he thinks con­ desire. That safeguards the right of stitutes a living area may sell portion of bud-owners. ·whenever we think it it if he can get a certain price. The pur­ necessary, as the result of investigation chaser may find that it is not a living or information, to commence drainage area, and demand the right to make it "-orks, we must advertise the fact and up to such. notify the landholders who then will :Mr. DAVIDSO~: That is not an unfair ha>e the right to enter objections. demand! Irrigation and lV ater [19 OcT., 1944.] (Amendment) Bill. fA7

Captain DUNN: It is not an unfair Minister has suggested. The Ministrr demand by the man who purchases it, indicated that certain Acts would be but it may create problems that are im­ amended and certain provisions either possible of solution. It is considered altered or extended, but as it was diffi­ that no land that has been purchased as cult to hear his explanation I will have an irrigation farm, whether it is a liv­ to wait until I can read Hansard to ing area or not, should be subdivided know what was submitted to the House. without the consent of the Commission, I shall therefore reserve any remarks and from actual experience over all the on the bill until the second-reading irrigation areas the Commission thinks it stage, when I hope the Minister will right that it should control subdivisions. give us more detailed information, par­ Provision is also being made for ex­ ticularly in regard to the clauses which tending the relief that may be granted he has said are minor provisions. These to holders of irrigation farms that have minor prons10ns are never inserted suffered on account of damage by flood, without a purpose .and they certainly drought, etc. have a definite objective. The bill also contains provisions Mr. ENTICKNAP (Murrumbidgee) designed to prevent the aggrega­ [2.44] : I do not propose to discuss tion of holdings in the Curlwaa the, bill at any length until the second­ irrigation area substantially exceeding home maintenance areas. These pro­ reading stage, but it is undoubtedly visions are along the lines of similar long overdue, particularly in respect of provisions contained in the Crown Lands some of the amendments relating to Act with regard to holdings in the Mur­ subterranean and surface drainage. rumbidgee Irrigation Areas. At the Anyone who has knowledge of irriga­ present time the maximum area which tion projects knows that most failures may be leased as an irrigated holdin,~ have occurred through inadequate drain­ in the Curlwaa Irrigation Area is 30 age. Before any future planning is acres, but there is no control what­ made of irrigation schemes, we must soever over the transfer of lands the fee in the first instance ascertain whether simple of which has been acquired. It it is necessary that the drainage sys­ is intended to wipe out this 30 acres tem should extend beyond the boun­ restriction, as that area may not in all daries of the scheme itself. Power cases be a home-maintenance area, and must be conferred upon the Commis­ to place the acquisition of all lands, whether leasehold or freehold, on the sion or upon the body authorised to same basis. The bill also contains a carry out extensive irrigation schemes number of other provisions which are to provide an adequate drainage scheme not of very great importance, and I to carry surplus water even for a dis­ will deal with them at the second­ tance of 100 miles beyond the actual reading stage. I think that I have given irrigation area, so as to dispose of it hon. members the real essence of the in a river or some other natural drain­ bill, which is important from the admin­ age outlet. The same thing applies to istrative side of the conduct of irriga­ subsoil drainage. I know from my own tion areas and also from the standpoint experience that large tracts of land of correcting certain anomalies. I com­ have been ruined through putting mend the bill to hon. members and will water on it and omitting to provide give them more detailed information on adequate subsoil drainage. There is the second reading. difficulty in getting water out of the Mr. WEAVER (Neutral Bay) [2.42]: sub-strata of the soil, and unless proper Apart from my personal disinclination drainage facilities are provided it is to discuss a bill on the motion for leave useless to carry on with future irriga­ to introduce, it appears to me that this tion projects. I am glad to know that measure is not quite so simple as the under this bill the \Vater Conservatioll 54S Irrigation and Water [ASSEMBLY.] (Am endrnent) Bill.

and Irrigation Commission will have cany out d:rainage schemes, and par­ adequ,rte pvwers to carry out these pro­ ticular.ly deep drainage schemes. The jects. Minister referred to tlle deep drainage There is in the bill one clause that scheme that was underta,ken on the will need serious consideration, and it Lower Murray in the vicinity of Coome­ relates to the right to subdivide on alla. Hlld not a deep drainage scheme irrigation areas. It has happened that been provided at that settlement the previousq, through shortsightedness on prosperous and striving community there the part of the powers that be in deter­ would have been virtually wiped out. At mining home-maintenance areas, the one time the prod1!1cti0n of this area fixed area has been much too small, and languished, and the crops from some or­ where that takes place and one settler chards decreased by at least :JO per cent., vaQueensland aELd Victoria ceive a copy of the bill, to contribu-te and the Dominion of New ZeaJand, something constructive to the deba.te. legislation is iit operation fnr the regis­ In the meantime, may I saw that I am tration of physiotherapists, or masseur.s, '550 Physiotherapists [ASSEMBLY.] Registration Bill.

Hon. members will agree that this legis­ also included to safeguard the rights of lation is a step in the right direction. I physiotherapists in the various forces of think that physiotherapists will welcome the Commonwealth. it, as also will members of the public At the present stage it is noi proposed and members of the medical profession. to restrict the practice of physiotherapy Physiotherapy is closely associated with to registered persons, but it will be an medicine. The main function of the offence for any unregistered person to physiotherapist is to decrease the period pretend to be registered under the Act. of convalescence of sick or injured per­ The bill contains all the usual machinery sons, many of whose disabilities would provisions required by legislation of this become permanent if incorrectly treated. kind and I propose on the occasion of The Board of Registration will be con­ the second reading to explain in detail stituted and given discretionary powers. the various provisions of the measure. Its membership will be seven, consisting A great deal of good and a great deal of representatives of the Physio­ of harm could be done by people who therapists' Association, the Government, practise physiotherapy, and this House and the University of Sydney. The is bound to give the public whatever University will nominate a medical man. protection it can. Those who have the Naturally the medical profession will initiative to undertake a course of study benefit from having a representative c•n in physiotherapy should be protected, the board. A measure such as this too. Parliament is gradually bringing brings within its scope people who are under its control members of the pro­ already practising their profession, and fessions that treat the public. The claiming to work for the public. medical profession will be glad to see \Vhether such persons as will be covered physiotherapists properly controlled. I by this measure should be required to commmd the bill to hon, members. pass an examination is another matter. It is the considered opinion of the :Mr. WEAVER (Neutral Bay) [3.5]: Government that in the public interest Boards ! Boards ! Boards ! The method members of the physiotherapy profession of government seems to be to run every­ should be subject to registration under thing by means of boards. This measure State legislation, as is the case in adjoin­ provides for yet another board. The ob­ ing States and in New Zealand, so that jective of the bill is most desirable, but the standard of training of future en­ it requires close scrutiny. I see that it trants to the profession may be assured. provides for blue lights and green lights, A Board of Registration will administer sad lights and pretty lights. Some places the Act, and its principal functions will in J\facquarie-street, for which good be to register perwns possessing the pre­ rentals are provided, advertise their scribed qualifications; to prescribe a stan­ alleged powers of healing by the use dard of training; to conduct examina­ of subdued lights and gay lights, but tions; and to exercise disciplinary all they do is to lighten the pockets of powers over registered physiotherapists the unfortunate public. Some of these in cases of misconduct in a professional people are so dangerou_s and are such respect, and so on. The qualifications charlatans that I think it is most desir­ for registration are designed to cover all able to provide some control over them. classes of persons likely to be affected, That is why this measure should be in­ for example, persons holding the diploma troduced. Like all other measures, we of the Australian Physiotherapy Asso­ have to "take it blind" at the first­ ciation; persons who pass the prescribed €xaminations; holders of recognised cer­ reading stage. We do not know what tificates; and persons bona fide engaged it is all about. However, at the second­ in the practice of physiotherapy for at reading stage, after I haYe studied the least twelve months during the period measure, I shall want to say something of three years prior to the commence­ about it. I hope the Minister will not ment of the Act. Special provision is hurry it through, because it is one of Physiotherapists [19 OcT., 1944.] Registration B~-z~. 551

those measures that calls for close in­ of America in regard to pseudo-practi­ 'Vestigation. The ideals embodied in it tioners, those quacks and charlatans of may be very good, but the method of the worst kind, ·who were preying on giving effect to them may be very bad. the community in a most deplorable We shall see. manner by capitalising their weaknesses, sufferings and sickness. This city of ~Ir. J. T. REID (Casino) [3.8]: The Sydney has by no means been free of hill may be very necessary; for it is that, and I feel that there are still .(iesirable that certain safeguards should many who are making a great. deal of be provided. I take it from the Minis­ .money by fastening upon the rich like ter's remarks that he is providing safe­ vampires and upon the poor like blood­ .guards for those men and women who suckers. Many of them are advertising .are practising physiotherapy at the pre­ cures over the radio and through the oSent time. In this State there are a press that cannot be substantiated. Ac­ number of physiotherapists whose work cording to the 1\Iinister's definition any l1as been commended in this State, and of those persons who have been prac­ who are looked upon throughout the world tising within the last twelve months :as being leaders in this branch of will be entitled to registration under this Bcience. It may be wise to control those bill. '\Vho seek to enter this profession now. I ask the Minister whether it is his in­ 1\fr. C. A. KELLY: That has been the :tention to protect the rights of certain case with all such legislation. It has ap­ ·practising physiotherapists who are 110w plied to medical practitioners t oserving with the forces. Some of these Mr. MACDONALD: Many of them -experts are at present serving abroad, are still practising in this city and are :and it is onl;y right that their interests quacks and charlatans, but now they are :should be protected. If they are not to become automatically qualified. They ·here to pass examinations that may be have merely to prove that they have :prescribed after the passing of this been practising for the last twelve legislation they should be afforded an months-- '()pportunity to qualify for registration when they return to Australia. This J\Ir. C. A. KELLY: They will have to bill has had some attention from per­ satisfy the board that they have prac­ sons engaged in this class of work. I tised for twelve months during the last presume the Minister has already made three years before they can obtain reg­ <>ontact with them, and I should like istration t J1im to say, during his second-reading Mr. MACDONALD: Exactly t If they speech, whether they have been con­ have been operating for twelve months ·sulted so that the bill may be consid­ the board will have to grant registra­ -ered from that angle. It may be that tion. This legislation warrants care ·some of the clauses require amendment, from the House, otherwise quacks and and I hope the :Thfinister will give hon. charlatans may become automatically members an opportunity thoroughly to registered. The proposed board should .examine the legislation. be empowered to investigate their cases, Mr. 1\fACDONALD (:Mosman) [3.12]: and should be satisfied as to their quali­ fications before registration is allowed. I should be pleased if the Minister in On the other hand, there are many l1is second-reading speech would clearly persons practising as physiotherapists ·define the terms and scope of the word who are not included in the definition. ·"physiotherapists." Many years ago a I refer to well-known and reputable :book entitled "Medical Follies," writ­ firms such as physical culturists that ten by Dr. Maurice Fishbein, created a have been practising this class of work great sensation in America and in Aus­ for many years. They have been legiti­ tralia. It disclosed a chaotic state of mately practising. It is only the Jaw­ :affairs throughout the United States breaker who is afraid of the law, 552 Physiotherapists [ASSEMBLY.] Registratian Bill.

but that definition will probably be ex­ should rEceive our protection.. We ap­ plained by the Minister on the second proach this profession in a somewhat 1eading. Dr. Fishbein referred to the different category. In the past, soma chaotic condition of affairs in the of those to whom I have alluded were United States of America, and showed how chiropractors, bone-setters and not affected as an organisation or as a manipulators, plastic surgeons and all school of instruction. They were affec­ kinds of self-styled people had developed ted individually. Here the Minister all kinds of rays and diathermy and must appreciate that for very many had made a racket of alleged curativ& years past certain individuals have been benefits. "Physiotherapists," who arli not only practising physiotherapy but self-styled, should not be allowed to also teaching it, and in Sydney we have advertise to the detriment of duly quali­ fied medical practitioners. There should one of the largest schools of its kind be some safeguard to prevent the suffer­ presided. over by Mr. Langridge. N a­ ing public from exploitation, and I one would deny that for many years he register my objection against the auto­ has performed a most valuable service to. matic inclusion of men who practise the community in training hundreds and physiotherapy until they have been perhaps thousands of persons m his examined and registered by the proposed methods. board. Mr. O'HALLORAX: It should not be Lieut.-Colonel BRUXNER (Tenter­ field) [3.17] : I regret that another en­ overlooked also that he has been officially gagement prevented me from hearing appointed to visiting athletic and sport­ the Minister's speech on this bill. The ing teams from a]l over the world! only matter with which I am concerned Lt.-Colonel BRTJXNER: That is so~ is that in all of these cases we set out but it is only incidental to my argument­ to register a new society or association and to fix standards, and we always No one would question the knowledge come up against the problem of how to and the ability of such men as deal with existing associations and ex­ Mr. Langridge and :;\fr. Petersen and' isting standards. There have been many others who are well known in this instances of that. I recollect that when work. :i\-Iy colleagues and I are quite we set out to standardise and register willing to agree to the fixation of the practice of veterinary surgery, standards to protect the public and there wa,s a great deal of difficulty and argument as to what to do with the men the qualified professional man, but we who had never had an opportunity of want to see that no injustice is qualifying by diploma or university done to other persons whose experience­ course, but who through the years had and training have won for them the equipped themselves by practical experi­ recognition of the highest medical ence and -.vho possessed· all the useful authorities. They should not be pre­ knowledge that would be required. vented from continuing to practise Captain DuNN: They had the confi­ their profession or to teaeh others. We dence of a ·large number of people! should be able to devise some arrange­ Lieut.-Colonel BRCX~ER: That is ment to al-low their work to eontinue, so. I do not think anyone will suggest if necessary subjecting their students. that it is not in the interests of the to an examination. vVe will weleome a public and those engaged in physio­ further explanation of the Minister's therapy that both the qualified man and intentions at a later stage. the public should be protected. But we Question resolved in the affirmative. should not do it at the expense of people who are already well-equipped, and who Bill presented and read a first time Special Adjournment. [19 OcT., 1944 ] Special Adjoumment. 553

SPECIAL ADJOURN-MENT. adjourn and to walk out of our respon­ Mr. McKELL (Redfern) Premier and sibility is not proper. To-day the hon. Colonial Treasurer [3.24] : I move: member for Mosman asked the Premier· That unless otherwise ordered, this House whether certain propaganda in connec­ .at its rising this day do adjourn until Wed­ tion with the w&r loan appeal was lower­ nesday, 1st November, 1944 at half past ing morale of the people. The Premier­ two o'clock p.m. replied to the effect that it would be wrong for him to interfere; that it wa& The Second Victory Loan Campaig-n a matter entirely for the Federal will continue during next week, conclud­ Administration and those cha:rged with ing- in the following- week, and I appre­ the flotation of the loan. On the one ciate the desire of bon. members to as­ hand, the Premier hands that preroga­ sociate themselves with the campaign tive to the Commonwealth GoveTnment,. during its closing stag-es. Many bon. to which it certainly belongs, and on the members have already taken an active other, suggests that the House should part in the campaign. It is difficult for adjourn at a time of great 'moment,. country members especially to assist in crisis and ha:rdship, so that hon. mem­ their electorates while attending sittings bers mig-ht take part in the war loan of the House, and to meet their con­ appeal. Is there one hon. member Yenience, therefore, I am moving this who could not render valuable assis­ special adjournment until the war loan tance to the loan without the ad­ campaign finishes. The House will re­ journment of this House~ It is ridi­ sume its sittings next Wednesday week. culous to suggest that Parliament should Lt.-Colonel BRUXNER (Tenterfield) adjourn for this purpose. An adjourn­ [3.26] : I am sure that this mo­ ment will not affect the loan campaign tion comes as a surprise to most one iota. What will affect the campaign bon. members. It certainly is a and is affecting it is the disregard by the· surprise to my colleagues and my­ Commonwealth and State Governments. self. I am not going to suggest for of the plight of the people of New South a moment that hon. members do not wish Wales and the difficulties with which to participate in the loan campaign, but they are confronted in obtaining their if country members had known a week daily meat. The public would subscribe ago of this adjournment they could have more readily were they satisfied that made plans to go to the country. The their interests were receiving some con­ Premier and hon. members know how sideration by Parliament, which is the slender are the chances of booking seats place to which they look for redress of in country trains at such short notice. their grievances. Parliament should not There is nothing much to prevent met­ run away at a time like this. Th~ ropolitan members from taking part in House should not be adjourned. All the loan campaign even though the l1on. membe:rs can take part in the loan House were sitting. campaign a·nd at the same time fulfil My objection to the adjournment is their parliamentary duties. Of course if that the State is going through one of the Government has decided to adjourn. its worst times. The daily lives of the the House it will be adjourned, but I people who are our responsibility are make my protest, which I believe is just, .gravely affected by current events. We against the proposed adjournment. Thi.;. are informed in the press this morning Assembly should sit a-nd deal with that in all probability there will be no matte:rs awaiting attention and no meat this week-end. I have already Government should adjourn the Parlia­ been informed b:v telephone that house­ ment for one day when it has a charge wives are queued up all over the place against it such as that on the business trying to get provisions to tide them paper. Before anything; else is done, that over. Parliament has no right to ad­ motion should be debated and Parlia­ journ while such a state of affairs de­ ment should not be adjourned to dodge mands our thought and discussion. To the issue. 554 Special Adjournment. [ASSEMBLY.] Special Adjournment.

Major SHAND (Ryde) [3.33]: I will be recreant to his trust if he allows wholeheartedly endorse the remarks of the Parliament to adjourn while the people Jwn. member for Tenterfield. This morn­ are clamouring for food. Fancy people ing in my constituency I noticed people in a country like Australia having to go lined up outside butcher shops, some of cap in hand to ask for the necessities of which were closed, others of which had life! Coupons have been given to us by only sufficient meat to carry on business the Federal Government as part of our for a few hours. I consider the treat­ ration scheme, yet those ration coupons ment of the public most inhuman. -While cannot be used at the present time. ·we ~lll hon. members are loyal supporters of should follow the lead, given in that the cause of Australia and the Allies, the i"rllat Declaration of American Indepen­ fact cannot be overlooked that the Gov­ dence, that all men are created equal, ernment is surrendering power to out­ that they are endowed by their Creator side bodies and the time has come when with inherent and inalienable rights, and we must rise in our might and sweep that among these are life, liberty, and .aside a Government that panders to the the pursuit of happiness. Our very lib­ interests of a lot of gangsters. erty is being taken away from us, the J\fr. SPEAKER: Order! The hon. mem­ laws of the country. are being disre­ ber must address himself to the motion. garded, and yet hon. members sit humbly and meekly in this Parliament and say, If he wishes to oppose it he must express in effect, "Let it go on." This Parlia­ bis opposition in parliamentary terms! ment should continue with its work. If Major SHAND : My reason for sup­ the Government has no work to do, then porting the remarks of the hon. member let it surrender and go to the country, .for Tenterfield is that the State is in a and it will find that the people will never precarious position and it is neccessary return it again as the Government of for Parliament to remain in session to New South Wales! settle the difficulties with which we arc J\fr. \VEA VER (Neutral Bay) [3.39] : confronted. I will do my veTy best, in In the ordinary course of events I could the interests of Australia, for the forth­ have understood the action of the Gov­ coming Victory Loan. I am already ernment, bu.'~ in view of the happenings hooked, not on any working day of Par­ of yesterday and to-day I cannot appre­ Jiament, but outside the days on which }>arliament generally meets, to help my ciate its tactics at all. The Government is obviously incapable of meeting this constituents and fellow-Australians to contribute to the Second Victory Loan. I House. It is not ready with its legisla­ tion. Its action to-day showed that it is say that it is tantamount to surrender­ not ready to put its measures before the ing our rights if we allow the life-blood Chamber, and when, in addition, it has of our nation to suffer through the in­ been so cowardlv as to evade the censure Jmman treatment that is being meted out motion which so specifically stated, it by men who refuse to supply meat to the i~ shows that the Government is ashamed people of this State. I hope that the and afraid face the matters with Premier will pause and reconsider the to which it has been charged. If not, why motion for the adjournment of the did it not allow the debate to take place? House until the 1st November, and allow it to lapse, for every parliamentarian at It was not that the Government wanted the present time should do his duty to his to introduce legislation of a more im­ country, and we are not doing our duty portant character, because evidently the unless we sit in this Parliament, take House is rising to-day without having hold of the reins of power, and tell these any legislation to proceed with. The people that they shall not control the Government is proposing that the House Covernment of this State by the means shall adjourn for a perioJ of one week. they have adopted. This is a serious It could not be that the Govern­ matter, and every man in this Parlia­ ment wants to preserve the time of the ment, as a representative of the people, House and go on with more important Special Adjournm~nt. [19 OcT., 1944.] Special Adjoumment. 555 legislation, and, L'l t!l'lt re~rard. I vl)n­ goods that form substitutes for meat. ture to suggest tnat .:n~re coUla be noth­ Surely to heaven there is reason for this ing more important than a definite vote House to meet every sitting-day when of censure on specific lines. The Gov­ the issue is one that affects humanity! ernment could easily have discussed the One of the first necessities of life is censure motion that has been moved, and foodstuffs. That necessity is immediate, could have made some defence against and this House should not adjourn until the charges which have been levelled something has been done to meet the :against it. But the Government avoids difficulty. that, and why does it do so? It is not to conserve the time of members of this Mr. C. A. KELr,y: I rise to order. I Parliament. • A GoYernment that has submit, Mr. Speaker, that the hon. mem­ any self-respect or regard for the tradi­ ber is deliberately canvassing your tions of this House would have said, ruling by going over the same question "Rightly or wrongly, justifiably or again! otherwise, the censure motion moved by Jl,fr. SPEAKER: The hon. member is the leader of the Opposition, who is certainly attempting to canvass my part of the constitution of this Cham­ ruling and I rule that he is out of or­ ber, shall be debated." In every Bri­ der. He is discussing matters con­ tish Parliament a vote of censure of tained in the motion he already has on such a character is discussed at once. the business paper. I remember bygone days when Govern­ Inents met with tactics of an obstruc­ Mr. WEAVER: With all respect, sir, tive character, and motions of censure I am not. d.ealt with matters that had already Mr. SPE.\EER: I withdraw the word been or were about to be debated in this "discussing'' and apologise to the hon. House, but this House has not had such member. He is, however, encroaching a motion before it since it was last con­ upon that motion. The question be­ stituted, yet the Government has evaded fore the House is that it adjourn to the issue. The charges made were that the ls"t November next. Any hon. mem­ we were allowing the country to get ber is entitled to giYe reasons for dis­ into a state of lawlessness from day to approving of that motion, but he is not day. entitled to debate a motion standing on Mr. WEIR: I rise to order. I submit the business paper. that the leader of the Opposition is not Mr. \VEAVER: I am not debating debating the question before the House the motion. I am saying that every -that it should adjourn until the 1st day this week and next week should be November next-but is discussing a utilised by this House in trying to motion that is already on the business­ overcome the difficulties that are facing }Japer. the community. That has nothing to :Mr. SPE.\I-:ER: The hon. member is do with the motion on the business entitled to show why the House should paper. I am talking about the diffi­ not adjourn to the date proposed, but culties that now face the people. To­ he is not entitled to debate a motion day every activity of life is being held now standing on the business paper. up by an industrial upheaval. My mo­ Mr. WEAVER: Out of respect to tion is not a wide one, covering the you, sir, I will not refer to it again, whole of that subject, but is strictly but I maintain that the House should specific, and it is not yet before this not adjourn while we are not merely House. I think the House should meet on the brink of an industrial upheaval, daily to endeavour to overcome the dif­ but are actually confronted with the ficulties surrounding us in every direc­ people being without meat over the tion, and I submit that the reason it week-end. The smallgoods shops have does not is that the Government will indicated that they also are short of not act. The Government should act. 556 Specia-l Adjournment. [ASSEMBLY.] Special Adjournment.

It is the inactivity of the Government Mr. VINCENT (Raleigh) [3.47]: I that is causing· all this trouble, and take it that the Government desires the strong governmental action here or else­ House to adjourn for a week or two so where would, I feel certain, terminate that members may take part in the loan the difficulties with which we are sur­ campaign. Far be it from me to mini­ rounded. mise the importance of that objective, since we all agree that we must do our An Hox. :llE>IBER: utmost to make that loan a ,success. Mr. WEAVER: The Commonwealth Nevertheless I believe this Parliament Loan question is entirely under the could do far more to serve the interests managemEnt, organisation and control of that loan not by adjourning, but of the Federal authorities. We as a rather by continuing in s~ssion and en­ Parliament have no knowledge that the deavouring by action to do certain Federal authorities have appealed to things that would cure and stamp out us to go out and assist them, nor are troubles that undoubtedly are having a they themselves lacking in capacity and very depressing effect up0n_ the loan. A organisation. It may be of the Pre­ feeling of sullenness exists throUghout mier's own volition, since he has always this city to"day and it is in existence expressed an earnest desire to assist the because the people, rightly or wrongly, Commonwealth Government. But the believe that this Parliament and this question at issue is whether it is neces­ Go,:ernment are not doj.ng their duty but sary to adjourn this House to enable that are allowing the community to be denied to be done. Many of us would address food,stuffs which are in abundance in meetings at night-time, even when the this State and which are not being pro­ House was sitting, if we wanted to as­ vided to the public through the actions sist in the campaign for the second vic­ of certain sections of the people who are tory loan. I do not think it is a matter I'efusing· to carry out their normal func­ for this House. I have had no appeal tions. nor has an.y member of the Opposition, I make a plea to tbiH Government on from the Federal authorities asking us behalf of thousands amd tens of thou­ to adjourn this House in order to assist sands of women in this State and par­ the iYar loan. ticularly in this city, who are in danger of being ruined physically because of :Mr. BADDELEY: Has not the leader of the Opposition received an invitation? the burden of work and the burden of sa~rifice that are being placed upon lvir. WEAVER: I have received no them. The Government is undoubtedly invitation to giv.e up my duties m burking its responsibility in this connec­ Parliament. The invitation that I re­ tion. I know very well that it can say, ceived could be given effect by me in "Well, this is within the Federal juris­ addressing functions or meetings at diction, and we have 1 othing to do with night-time, but that would not affect it." But I believe that the Government my duties in this Parliament. In view could put the spotlight upon the canker of the limitation that has been imposed which is eating into the very vitals of upon this debate on account of the mo­ the community and doing so much to tion already nn the business paper, I undermine not only our war effort, cannot pursue the mfltter any further. but also the health of the women­ The GoYernment's attitude in that and folk and the children of this country. other respects is undoubtedly an indi­ Take as an example what is happening cation of its inefficiency. It is not ready in our outer suburbs. Only this to meet this House; it is not ready to morning I met a woman who was push­ meet a censure motion or to face up to ing a perambulator with a baby in its obligations, since it is fearful of the it. She had been to the suburban busi­ exposures that would have taken place ness centre in an endeavour to obtain had il dPhate on the censure motion been provisions for the week-end. Knowing permitted. her, I asked how she had fared, and her Special Adjournment.. [19 OcT., 1944.] Special Adjournment. 557 answer was, "No meat; no potatoes; no Federal Parliament. I warn the Govern­ pumpkins." "What is the prospect for ment that there is a growing feeling of her a.nd her children over the week-end? resentment in the community, and I am I kn-ow of other families whose women­ afraid that unless something tangible folk have to rise at between half-past and definite is done to improve the posi­ :five and six in the morning in order to tion, not only will the Second Victory get their sons and daughters away to Loan be seriously affected, but also the the factol'ies that are producing the Australian war effort itself will be materials with which we are waging the weakened, if not jeopardised. It would war. Wben the sons finish their work in be far more importa-nt and far more vital the factories they attend technical col­ from a national standpoint for the House leges so that they may obtain a diploma to meet during the coming week. All to fit themselves for a trade or profes­ the items on the business paper cou1d be sion, and on returning to their homes at postponed, because they are all unim­ 3.30 p.m. or 9 p.m., they find their portant by comparison with other mat­ mother waiting for them, with a hot ters. The House could devote all next meal. In the interval she has to tramp week, and not necessarily by means of a miles in an effort to get the provisions motion of censure, to finding some solu­ that a;re necessary to sustain her child­ tion of our difficulties, and to seeing ren, but to-day she cannot get the meat, whether we can drag out of industry in the potatoes and the pumpkins that she this country that wretched canker which requires. Yet this House proposes to is eating into it and destroying it and the morale of the people. ~rdjourn for a week, without a word from the Government as to what it proposes llfr. DRFl\HiOND (Armidale) [3.57]: to do to check all this trouble th!lt is ·I wish to associate myself with the pro~ ()ccu:rring in a land where there is a tests that have been made by members plenitude of food. A small section of of the Opposition, including the leader the communits stands between that food of the Opposition, and the leader of and the people of the metropolitan area, the United Country party, against the and this Government is doing nothing adjournment that is proposed by the to remove the obstacle. Government. The first reason for my protest may seem to be rather individual :Mr. BADDELEY: How did the hon. mem­ and to a certain extent selfish, but ber know thad I will meet that obvious charge by l\fr. VINCENT: If the Government stating it in advance. I am a country is doing anything it has remained very member and I live 356 miles from silent on the subject. If it is doing this capital city. I travel backwards something, let it tell the people of the and forwards almost every week-end metropolitan area, who are sullen and on public business-;-approximately five want to know what this parliamentary week-ends in six. I came here for institution is doing to protect their in­ two week-ends and endeavoured to terests and to ensure that they are pro­ assist in the business of the House after vided with the foodstuffs that are essen­ sitting on a hard seat, upon which one tial to enable them to carry on their could not possibly get any sleep, especi­ activities. These people believe that this ally as one's fellow-travellers were Parliament is inactive, and they are moving about. And even if one had wondering what its purpose is. At the got any sleep one would have been moment the Federal Parliament is in awakened by employees of the Rail­ recess, and much of its action when in way Commissioner wanting to examine f'r.>osion is chm·acterised by ineptitude. tickets. Surely country m<>mbers, !113 Now we are going to tie inactivity to the well as other members of this H0me, ineptitude that we derive from the are entitled to some consideration from 558 8pecial Adjournment. [ASSEMBLY.] Special Aljou.ntment.

the Government when they undertake members shall be eo ,:.,pleted in energy to do their work in face of the diffi­ and so broken dowu that they will not be culties that are imposed upon them. able to give effective representation to :Mr. BADDELEY: I rise to order! I ask the people? Is this a fc.rm of despicable you, ~fr. Speaker, what train travelling tactics-- has to do with the question now before :Mr. SPEAKER: Order! The hon. mem­ the House? ber is disregarding my ruling that he Mr. SPEAKER: The question now before must give concise reasons, and must not the House is "That unless otherwise enter into a general debate! ordered this House shall, at its rising to- Mr. DRUMMOND: With due respect day, adjourn ...... " The hon. mem- to your ruling, Mr. Speaker, I propose ber is giving reasons why it should not to give reasons why this House should adjourn. not adjourn. I am giving the reasons. I have made arrangements to remain in Mr. DRU~LMO::';D: I am giving rea­ the city over the week-end so that I ml!,v sons why it should not adjo~rn for a be here next week. The Premier has not week and they are reasons whiCh I sub­ given members the courtesy of a week's mit 'with due respect to the Ohair, are notice of his intention to adjourn perfectly clear to any man who has had the House. ·with due deference, to trav~l, and who, after travelling afl as the representative of one of the night without sleep, has attempted to sit great country electorates, I suggest in this House until 10.30 p.m. in an en­ that I am entitled, on behalf of my deavour to carry out the business of the constituents, to see that nothing inter­ House with some degree of inte1ligence. feres with my capacity to represent them For those reasons I say that the House in this House. This is the place to state should not be called upon to adjourn where I object to ;~hat is being done. I without warning. The Government object to the adjournment of this House knew about the war loan. It wa;, no for one week on the ground that it State secret, nor was it confidential. should be engaged in the reasonable con­ Everybody knew a war loan was being duct of the business of the country. I floated and the Premier, before the maintain that there are pressing and leader' of the Opposition placed his urgent reasons why the House should notice of motion on the busineas remain in session. paper-- 1Ir. SPEAKER: The hon. member fur ~Ir. SPEAI\ER: Order! The hon. mem­ Armidale is out of order! ber is distinctly out of order. He . Mr. DRUJI.1:MO~D: I claim the right should give concise reasons why the to speak. House should not adjourn, and he must Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I rule the hon. 11ot deal with this matter in a general member out of order for having dis­ way. regarded my ruling. :Mr. DRUMMOND: I will not canvass Mr. DRUMMOND: I find it very your ruling, Mr. Speaker, but I say that difficult to observe your ruling although the Premier knew about the war loan; I will do my best to do so, but I and, surely, when he thought about ad­ maintain that this House should not journing the House for a week he should adjourn for one week. I submit that the have let the House know. Take my case. motion is against the Standing Orders. I have made arrangements to stay in and I am giving my reasons why the Sydney over the week-end so that I may House should not adjourn. be able to attend the House on Tuesday Mr. SPEAKER: Order! The hon. mem­ in a proper state of mind, and in a ber is entitled only to concisely state proper state of physical and mental those reasons, but he has stated them health to carrv on mv share of the repeatedly. I will not allow him to con­ business of 'the. House.• Is it the inten­ tinue to do that. I therefore rule that tion of the Government that country he is out of order! Special Adjournment. [19 OcT., 1944.] Special Adjournment. 559

Mr. DRUMMOND: I rise to order; I ancillary to loan subscriptions. I main­ claim my right as a member of this tain that subscriptions should be com­ House to speak. pulsory, that instead of pleading for Mr. SPEAKER: There is no point of money in an undignified manner, wages,. order! I have given my ruling and salaries, profits and capital should be a~k the hon. member to observe it! earmarked to a proportional degree and compulsory contributions made to these· 1\[r. DRUMMOND: I rise to order loans. I very much doubt whether an ad­ again! journment would enable hon. members. 11£r. SPEAI>:ER: Order! There is no to assist the campaign, much as they point of order! might desire to do so. We know of Mr. DRUMMOND: Then I propose things happening outside the House­ to give notice of dissent from your and I shall not refer to them except ruling, Mr. Speaker. to say that they certainly are not put­ ting the public in a frame of mind that ::Mr. SPEAKER: The hon. member can makes them responsive to the loan ap­ do so under the relevant Standing peal. So much can be said without Order. The motion before the House canvassing the ruling of the Ohair. reads: Many persons are holding back their­ That unless otherwi~e ordered this House, support because of a feeling that they at Its rising this day, do adjourn until Wed­ are not getting a fair deal. Coupled JJesday, 1st November, 1944, at half-past 2 with this is the knowledge that this loan, o'clock p.m. in common with others, will be over­ Mr. MACDONALD (Mosman) [4.4]: subscribed because of conversion, trans­ I associate myself with the expressions fer of credits, contributions from banks, of the leader of the Opposition and the and so on. Despite the Premier's reply leader of the United Country party, that these loans have been a success, I that the House should not adjourn, contend that the rank and file are not though I do not find myself strictly contributing to the extent suggested. associated with the reasons advanced by them. The Premier, in giving Mr. SPEAKER: Order! The hon. mem­ reasons for the proposed adjournment, ber is debating another question. He said that hon. members wished to be must confine his remarks to the motion. helpful in association with the termina­ Mr. MACDONALD: Like all other­ tion of the campaign for the Second Vic­ han. members, I should like to be help­ tory Loan. This morning I asked a ful in the loan campaign, but I am con­ question relative to the conduct of the vinced that the House would better serve­ Joan campaign. I am doubtful whether the country by remaining in session. hon. members can be of any great use in For those reasons, I oppose the motion. prosecuting the campaign. The various committees have already made their 1\fr. llfcKELL (Redfern), Premier­ appeals, and it is not for hon. members and Colonial Treasurer [ 4.8], in reply: to go around the State cap in hand to The debate to which I have listened is. organise. Most of the plans have been the most surprising and remarkable that­ completed, and while all hon. members I have heard in this House. Not only· are anxious to do everything possible, is it surprising and remarkable, it is: to assist in making the loan a success, hypocritical. I doubt whether their efforts would be very effective. I could not compete Mr. DRU1BIOND: That is untrue, ab­ in entertainment value with patriotic solutely untrue. I now rise to order. I ask comedians and jockeys and, therefore, your ruling, Mr. Speaker, whether the it is most improbable that my as­ statement of the Premier that hon. sistance would be of value. The members on this side of the House are Government is encouraging the pub­ hypocritical contravenes standing orders; lic to expect entertainment as an and is unparliamentary~ .fj60 Special Adjournment. [ASSEMBLY.] Special Adjournment.

Mr. Sr.EAKER: Order t The reference this adjournment, there are hon. mem­ was made to critici,;m offered by hon. bers on the other side of the Rouse members, and not to any individual hon. who asked that this should be done. member. Mr. FL'WAX: Ko wonder that the :Mr. DRu\l)IO'XD: On a further point Premier used the word ''hypocritical"! .of order. I ask your ruling, Mr. }fr. :M;cKELL: Those members, I have .Speaker, wliether the word "hypocriti­ no doubt, will vote against the motion, cal" does not reflect on members on this simply because of some lead that has side of the Rouse~ been given in this Rouse this afternoon. J\'l:r. SPEAimR: I rule that it does not. Mr. VrNCEXT: There is no reason why Mr. McKELL: I reiterate what I they should take the lead! said a few mc,ments ago, that in my long experience I have never listened Mr. :McKELL: Ron. members on the to such a hypocritical debate as that other side of the House talk about no beard in the Chamber this afternoon. notice having been given. They know perfectly well that it has been the prac­ Mr. DnmnroND: That is offensive tice to adjourn for the last week of a war .and untrue ! loan campaign. In addition, early this Mr. McKELL: The hon. member week it was intimated to the Whips on :reserves to himself the right to say what the other side of the House that there be thinks. would be an adjournment of one week. Mr. DnF:IIMOND: I say that the state­ Although that has been known for some ment of the Premier-- days, not one hon. member on the other side of the House expressed one word of Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I call the hon. protest. It was not until this motion member to order. was moved to-day that we have had these ::Yir . .McKELL: But the hon. member protests. If those hon. members are sin­ .considers that that right should not be cere, if they are honest, if they have exercised by any other hon. member. a sense of responsibility and decency, I have listened to criticism levelled why did they not inform the Whips that against the Government-criticism they were going to protest~ But wl).ich is outside the Standing Orders thev did not say a word. There ()f this Rouse, but refrained from taking wo~ld not have been one word any point of order. What does this said about this adjournment from the motion mean~ It simply means that other side of the House had it not been this House adjourn over a period of for the remarks of the leader of the ()ne week, one week in fifty-two, and United Country party. for what? So that the members of this Mr. VINCENT: I did not know that House can assist towards ensuring that the Premier proposed to adjourn the the war loan is a success. Is this novel? House for a week until I came into this Is there anything new about this pro­ Chamber to-day! -cedure? Time and again war loans have been floated, and time and again this Mr. :McKELL: I am not surprised House has adjourned for the last week of that the leader of the United Country .a war loan campaign. Party has raised this objection. TherE' is nothing new about that. But I want J'>Ir. RICHARDSON: Not while a censure to let him know, and I want to let the motion was pending! House know, that I made a pledge, Mr. J\1:cKELL: And it has adjourned which was that I would do everything without one word of dissent from any in my power to help the Federal Gov­ member of the Rouse. Ron. members ernment in our national difficulties and l1ave supported me in the past in asking trouble. I have kept my word, and I that the Rouse adjourn so that they am not going to walk out on the Federal miu:ht make their contribution to the Government now. The leader of the su;cess of a loan. In connection with United Country party last night spoke Special Adjournment. [lf\.OcT., 1944.] Special Adjournment. 561

()f the "changed state of affairs," and is not mine-it rests entirely with the "now that the clouds are lifting," and Federal authorities, and whatever pro­ ~'now that the position has become en­ cedure they determine upon is the pro­ tirely different." I want to let him cedure that I shall support as far as .know that there is still a long and a I possibly can. It may be that the hon . .hard road to travel, and, in addition, member has some objection to jockeys :there are still tremendous sacrifices riding horses in some sort of a cam­ to be made by the people of this paign that took place in Hyde Park, .country for the purpose of bring­ but let me tell him that that campaign ing this war to a successful conclusion secured a contribution of approximately .as quickly as possible. Yet, although a quarter of a million pounds to the

of their loyalty, and the sooner they don't you debate this motion of cen­ realise that the national interest is sure?" I distinguish between a censure­ the first consideration the b2tter it will which relates to the propriety of a Gov­ be for this country. ernment and a censure which is put on Mr. FL.'\?\ AX: That is why the public the notice paper for the purpose of has no confidence in them ! making political capital. I make that. distinction very strongly. I was asked Mr. McKELL: One of the reasons why I did not go on with the censure: why they are holding an insignificant motion. What were the facts? The: position in this House and in the poli­ parties concerned were sitting in con­ tical life of this country is their neglect ference. of the national interest. It has been Mr. DRmnrmm: I rise to order­ said that because there is industrial I ask that you, Mr. Speaker, rule trouble we should not adjourn for the that the Premier is out of order in war loan period. Hon. members have discussing the censure motion moYed by had a lot to say about the industrial the leader of the Opposition, and in re-­ trouble in our midst, but not one of ferring to its details. them has made a helpful suggestion to Mr. SPEAE:ER: The Premier is not the Government for the purpose of solv­ discussing details but is replying to the ing this industrial trouble. Ko one de­ questions that \\ere raised in debate! :,Jlores it more than I do, and I have Mr. McKELL: This is a new method made my position perfectly plain time adopted by hon. members opposite. I and again. I repeat what I have said am to sit and listen in silence to what. before, that there is no semblance of they have to say, and then when it is. justification for these industrial stop­ my turn to reply the gag is to be ap­ pages. Industrial tribunals have been plied and I am not to answer their argu­ established in accordance with the laws ments. of this country, and they can deal with What are the facts? \Vhen the leader all these troubles and disputes. All the of the Opposition wanted to move his blame is not on one side. If our indus­ motion a conference of the parties wa& trial tribunals were rcspo:cted, if those sitting, presided over by the Chairman associated with our industrial life were of the Industrial Commission. The mat­ prepared to carry out their commit­ ter v>as therefore obviously sub judice_ ments honourably, we would not ha>e Again the bon. member wanted to have: this trouble in our midst. I say again the matter raised in the House. What that I can see no need or justification was the position? An agreement had for it. been reached between the parties at the' This Government. will do everything the conference that was presided over by that it is humanly possible for men to the judge, and the matters agreed upon do to protect the public interests. Hon. were to be submitted to a meeting of the­ members know as well as I know that men. Before that meeting was held and even at this moment a compulsory con­ when a settlement of the dispute was: ference is sitting in an endeavour to pending, hon. members of the Opposition settle this dispute. What do hon. mem­ wanted to discuss the matter in this. bers opposite care for the con­ Chamber. We all know perfectly well­ ference? ·what do they care for what would have been the likely conse­ the fact that these matters are quences of such a debate. ~he subject of discussion by the I make it quite clear that I want to. parties concerned? ·what do they see these industrial disputes settled and. care for the fact that these matters are I do not want to do, nor do I want this sul1 judice? To them these matters are House to do, something that will accen­ of no consequence at all. Their con­ tuate the trouble and prevent its settle­ cErn is to make politifal capital and ment. Let me conclude by repeating· take political advantage of what is hap­ that the objection taken to this motion pening. They haYe said to me, "Why was never taken to a similar motion oill Special Adjournment. [19 OcT., 1944.] Adjournment. 563 any previous occasion. I am astonished PAIRS. that such an objection has been taken, Arthur, Captain Bate, Jeff and I have no doubt that hon. members Graham, E. H. Mair, A. opposite would not have thought of tak­ Knight, H. Reid, A. E. ing it had it not been for the lead given Martin, Captain Robson, Lt.-Colonel by the hon. member for Tenterfield. Just Question so resolved in the affirmative. as in past years it was necessary for this House to adjourn for the purpose of helping to make a war loan a success, ADJOURNMENT. so it is necessary to do that to-day. I HOMEBUSH ABATTOIR: SHEEP AND CATTLE­ feel that there is every justification for FARMING IMPLEMENTS: SHORTAGE OF this House adjourning for such a pur­ SPARE PARTS. pose. When it is all said and done it :M:otion (by :Mr. McKell) proposed: means simply that one week out of the fifty-two weeks in a year is to be devoted That this House do now adjourn. to assisting the Federal Government in Mr. TONGE (Canterbury) [4.36]: I the difficult job that it is doing for the propose to bring before the House a· country. request from the Royal Society for the Question put. The House divided: Prevention of Cruelty to Animals that there are 58,000 sheep and lambs at Ayes, 43; noes, 18; majority, 25. Homebush that are unslaughtered. I ask the Colonial Secretary whether AYES. something cannot be done in the mat­ Baddeley, J. M. Lazzarini, C. C. ter. If the sheep and lambs cannot be Booth, G. McGirr, James killed, will the Colonial Secretary make Cahill, F. J. McGra-th, J. F. some arrangements in regard to 40,000 Cahill, J. J. McKell, W. J. of these animals that are sucker lambs? Cameron, R. Matthews, C. H. ·will he arrange for some lucerne to be Carlton, W. J. -Nott, R. B. sent there? These lambs are dying by Currey, IV. J\1. O'Halloran, R. E. hundreds and I ask the Colonial Secre­ Davidson, M.A. O'Sullivan, M. ta see whether something cannot be Quirk, Mrs. l\I. Dring, E. P. done either to slaughter them or to Dunn, Captain Renshaw, J. B. provide some lucerne hay for feeding Enticlmap, A. G. Robertson, C. G. them. I ask, too, whether something Evatt, C. R. Seiffert, J. W. cannot be done in regard to baby Finnan, F. J. Shannon, T. J. Fowles, H. 'r. Stanley, F. calves. Can the :M:inister arrange for Geraghty, J. L. Storey, S. A. D. some milk to be sent up there? This Gorman, R. D. Tonge, A. is a serious matter, and I ask the Col­ Hawkins, F. H. Tully, J.M. onial Secretary to deal with that aspect. Heffron, R. J. Weir, G. I also ask the Minister for Transport Hill, F. Woodward, H. P. J. to get in touch with the Commissioner Horsington, E. M. Tellers, for Railways to urge that no more of Kelly, C. A. Landa, A. these lambs should be trucked to Sydney. Lamb, W.H. Williams, A. J. L. It is unwArranted cruelty that these baby NOES. animals should be taken away from their mothers and brought down here in a Brain, G. W. Rose, D. starving condition. They have been Bruxner, Lt.-Colonel Shand, Major starving for five days. should be Drummond, D. H. Stephens, S. T. It stopped. The time is also overdue when Gollan, G. C. Turner, H. B. _Howarth, W. A. H. Vincent, R. S. the Government should establish coun­ Hunter, D. B. Wea-ver, R. IV. D. try abattoirs. They should have been Jackett, H. G. established long ago. I do not blame Jackson, J. Tellers, this Government any more than any Reid, J. T. Lawson, J. A. other Government. The last Govern­ Richardson, A. Macdonald, D.P. ment was in office for ten years and Adjournment. [ASSEMBLY.] Adjournment.

did nothing. I feel sure this Govern­ Mx. FL~NA.l~ (Hawkesbury) [4.40]: ment will do something in regard to I desire to. bring under the notice of the the establishment of country abattoirs. House a matter of great concern to my electorate and to many other countTy Mr. BADDELEY (Ce~snock), Col­ electorates. I hope that the Deputy­ onial Secretary [4.38]: This matter was Premier will bring it before the Com­ brought under my notice yesterday, monwealth authorities. For some con­ and last night I asked the exe­ siderable time great difficulty has been -cutive of the Meat Employees' Union experienced by farmers and contractors to discuss the matter with me. I in securing mechanical parts for Howard brought under their notice the fact rotary hoes and tractors. For many that more than 80,000 head of sheep and years before the war and in the early -cattle at the abattoir were likely to die. years of the war, these were the They s.aid that a meeting would be held machines bought by most of the this morning. That meeting took place, small farmers. They have had to con­ ,and it was agreed that the men should tinue using them to keep their fields resume work, but something happened ploughed and ordinary cultivation in later. I have also been in touch with hand. The Commonwealth has given to them this afternoon and pointed out the York Motors Limit.e·d the sole rights serious position. I intend to have a of manufacturing and supplying the -further conference with them to-night, spare parts for thes-e machines, but con­ :and I ha've been in touch with the Fed­ tractors and farmers have to wait three •eral Minister for Labour and National and four months for parts. They have 'Service, Mr. Holloway, who is in Jl.1:el­ applied through the Controller of Agri­ -bourne. I have also informed country cultural Machinery, :Mr. Barrow, who has .-.agents that it is useless to truck any been most courteous and has assisted as additional cattle or lambs to Sydney much as possible. In every case he has until the trouble has been settled. This had to refer the applicants to York Government has done everything pos­ Motors Ijmited, and he has made repre­ sible in the !llatter and will do every­ sentations to that firm on their behalf. thing to overcome the existing difficulty. Ordinary spare blades and even nuts and bolts have taken many months to Mr. WEAVER (Neutral Bay) [4.39]: supply though the letters received Dn the subject raised by the hon. mem­ from that firm have always said -ber for Canterbury, I ask whether he that the orders are rrcelvmg its should not have pointed out that the best attention. Either York Motors ·whole of these difficulties are entirely Limited cannot do sufficient of the neces­ . 'due to the action of the slaughten;nen sary work or they do not want to . at the abattoir, and to no one else. Whichever is the case, the Commonwealth Might I suggest that we have almost authorities ought to appoint some other :reached the stage where unions that are engineering firm to assist in this very .C.irectly responsible for causing great important work. In my electorate, hundreds of acres of cultivable land are losses to members of the community lying idle for the Jack of spare parts, and should be held responsible for those if this state of affairs is continued and losses. These sheep were sent to Sydney is in any way general, we will have by the owners in good faith, but they many thousands of acres of land lying have sustained considerable financial unused. I am concerned that Aus­ - losses. Meat is being withheld from a tralian machines cannot even be long-suffering public that is enduring serviced, while at the same time - most serious privations through in­ country agents are guaranteeing un­ ;;-ability to obtain necessary food supplies. limited supplies of spare parts to :Legislation must be introduced to pro­ purchasers of AmPrican trn<'tors and ''i"ide that the unions concerned must pay hoes. This operntes to the detri­ the piper. ment of Australian manufact\lrers. Supply Bill. [24 OCT., 19'44.] Adlournment. 56[)

Small f:J.rmers have purchased the Aus­ FIRST READINGS. tralian Howard rotary hoe, but, because The following bills were received from of some congestion or difficulty, are not the Legislative Assembly and read . a able to obtain spare parts. If a farmer first time: has sufficient capital to purchase an Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) American machine he is guaranteed an BilL adequate supply of spare parts. I ob­ Apiaries (Amendment) Bill. ject to that and suggest that un­ Local Government (Electoral Provisions) less something is done the position will Amendment Bill. become worse. I hope that the Deputv­ Parliamentary Electorates and Elections (Further Amendment) BilL Premier will take up the matter with Public Service (Amendment) Bill. the Fedel'al authorities and ensure that adequate supplies of spare pa:rts for the Police Regulation (Amendment) Bill. .Australian machine a:re made available. SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT. If York Motors Limited is not able tc­ carry out this necessary work and pro­ Motion (by the Hon. R. R. Downing) vide the spare parts, another manufac­ agreed to: turing organisation should be given a That this House, at its l'ishtg to-day, d() contract to assist it. adjourn until Tuesday next, 31st October, 1944.

Question resolved in the affirmative. ADJOURN1IENT. INDUSTRIAL DISPUTES-BOBBIN HEAD: TRANS­ House adjourned at 4.46 p.m. until POR'l' FACILITIES-P!W'l'ECTiON OF NATIVE' Wednesday, 1st J'.i ovember at >'LORA-STARVING STOCK. 2.30 p.m. :Motion (by the Hon. R. R. Downing) proposed: 'l'hat th-is House do now adjourn. 3Leg;i1:llatihz (!tr.;undL The Hon. W. E. V. ROBSON [4.43]: I should like to ask the Minister what Tuesday, 24 October, 1944. action the Government has taken to try to stem the industrial lawless­ ness which is stalking naked and un­ Supply Biii-Leave of Abscncc~First Readings­ ashamed through the country at the­ Special Adjournment-Adjournment (Industrial Di_sputes-Bobbin Hearl: Transport Facilities­ present time, and what it is doing to Protection of N<1tive Flora-Starving Stock). preserve the .Arbitration Act from at­ tacks by those who from week to week are making direct attacks upon that sys­ The PRESIDENT took the chair. tem. \Ve have reached a stage in which The opening Prayer was read. those twin brothers, law and order, which are the very basis of our demo­ cratic system, are being attacked day SUPPLY BILL. after day, and from the Government we­ Royal assent to this bill reported. hear no voice on the matter except that of the Assistant-Minister, the Hon. :Mr. Dickson. LEAVE OF ABSENCE. The Ron. Sir NonfrfAN KATER: He is The P·RESibENT announced the receipt the only Minister who has been game to of a communication from his Excel­ speak as he did! lency the Governor intimating that The Ron. W. E. V. ROBSON: He leave of absence had been granted to the has opened his mind freely, as has an­ Hon. P. }I. McGirr and the Hon. G. other member of the Lower House, who Mullins during the present session. was courageous enough to make · a