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Associated Students of The Exn9;,..;;JJ~;..;;11t________ MontanaFri~:i-~;~!,~t:.~~-b~ State University Emotion beats reason in Wednesday debate By BRANDAL GLENN News Editor "I love America," cried Soviet expatriot Joseph loffe to a receptive, cheering crowd. So does Don Clark, MSU professor of political science, he said. but the terror of the nuclear annihilation negates moral judgements. Both spoke during a vigorous debate Wednesday night entitled "US v USSR." The debate question, agreed to by both latte and Clark minutes before the event, was the viability of the Reagan foreign policy "Peace through Strength." Joseph latte, 57, "6-years-old as an American and 1-year-old as an American citizen," was a professor of political science in the Soviet Union, served on the country's agricultural advisory board and was a fervent Marxist when he was still young, he said Until. he said, he understood that the Russian people were enslaved by a "Soviet regime," emigrated to this country and became a "Strong American conservative." His opponent, Don Clark, a retired Air Force Colonel, spent two years in the Soviet Union as a military attache - "a spy," he said. Clark has also, he sa1d,been involved in the highest levels of the State Department and Pentagon where he had access to the most classified of documents. 'They (the Soviets) are not human beings, they are devil beings. ' ·-Joseph loffe latte argued that peace between the two super-powers can be achieved only 1f the United States remains superior in all facets of the military_ - including nuclear. Strength 1s the only message the Soviets understand, he said. "They are not human beings" he said "they are devil beings." A strong America justifies the fight for freedom and the example will cause the Russian people to revolt against the "Soviet regime," latte said Clark argued that the United States had adopted the policy of "Peace 1s Strength" shortly after WW II and the arms race began First with two nuclear bombs and now 11,000 for the United States and 9,000 for the Soviet Union, he said. The current policy has simply not worked and has resulted 1n increasing the number of times we can destroy the earth, he said Citing a current scientific report spearheaded by physicist Carl Sagan, Clark said that after a nuclear exchange of only 1,000 weapons the matter becomes academic, serving only to "bounce the rubble a few more times:· On the other hand, he said, a verifiable nuclear freeze would set a whole new "atmosphere" in which the two countries could deal and develop a whole new tudent found not guilty relationship - reversing the dangerous arms race. lmposs1ble, loffe countered, the entire history of the Soviet Union has been evil ly MELISSA KORBER second-time offenders are prosecuted. and evil 1s not to be trusted. loffe reeled off a history of Soviet atrocities including Stalin and the invasions of lut. News Editor Other methods ASMSU Legal Services attorney An MSU student accused of m1sde· • • • Phyllis Bock represented Orham at the Poland. Yugoslavia, Hungary. Cambodia and North Vietnam. American liberals for most of them, he said neanor theft of library materials has How do other libraries handle people hearing Wednesday are to blame. by opposing a strong America, of the Soviets is not to een found not guilty by Justice of the caught by their security systems? Fol Signs posted in the library say that loffe "sleeps well at night," he said, because the intention but to "blackmail" the world with them. 'eace HP Goan lowing is a roundup of library policies those refusing to provide their names to use their nuclear weapons Mary Orham, a senior in agriculture collected by a telephone survey of col library officials following detection by ducation. was stopped by the Renne leges and universities within the West the security system would be prose 'It (tension between the two countries) is bad ibrary security system twice last ern region. cuted. Although Orham gave her name ummer Montana Technical College to the library officials, campus security and we can only make it worse. ' The first time. the library warned Enrollment: about 2,100 was called and she was arrested. -Don Clark lrham and made a record of her name; Policy: none "I don't think absent-mindedness or "Would they be honest. they would cease to be Soviets." loffe said. 1e second time. campus security was Idaho State University forgettulness 1s a crime," Bock said in Fine. Clark said, but based on his observations the intentions of the Soviet ailed and Orham was arrested for Enrollment: about 6,000 her closing arguments. government towards the freeze are good. i1sdemeanor theft Policy: none The prosecuting attorney, Marty "The road to hell is paved with good mtentent1ons[Karl Marx)," latte countered On April . 1 the library changed its University of Idaho Lambert of the county attorney's office. Whether the Soviets keep or break a freeze treaty, Clark continued, at least a 1•' olicy about those caught leaving the Enrollment: about 9.000 contended that by definition. Orham freeze would be a positive step. Even if the Soviets did break the treaty it would be ~rary without checking out materials Policy: payment for any damaged had tried to deprive the library of years before they could reach parity with the United States. he said I Previously, students were given two materials matenals Thus. he said. we either reverse the arms race or we find out the Soviet's true 1arn1ngs: and on the third offense, they University of Montana "The policy 1s not on tria l." Lambert intentions. In either case. we would learn more than we do now and may possibly 1ere sent to the Dean of Student Affairs Enrollment about 9,000 said. "The question is did the person save the world, he said nd Services Office. Towns people, Policy: none commit misdemeanor theft?" "You (Clark) would make a good columnist for Pravada (a Soviet newspaper)." warning owever, were only given one University of Washington Following an hour and a half of tes· loffe said after nd campus security was notified Enrollment: about 35,000 t1mony and the lawyers' closing testim Visibly taken aback by the pro-loffe crowd and the powerfully emotional loffe, second offense. Policy: C1tat1on and mandatory court onies. Goan ruled on the case Clark showed a book to the audience called "Nuclear Arms: Ethics. Strategy and The new policy 1s the same for stu appearance for third degree theft if Goan questioned whether Orham Politics" and said "If you want to read good. rational arguments against my non-students alike: all ,.1ents and library materials are damaged (continued on page 10) pos1t1on read this " '-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2 EXPONENT Friday. October 19. 1984 ***************# The Peace Corps :Female Models* *: nee~d for various yet *: * moderate haircuts. * 'The toughest job you'll ever love' : Interview Saturday : · morning, 9-12 noon at By TAMI DAVIDSON development loan" lot of different loods.'' said Matthew A 1n Leon Johnson Hall, 994-5045 * * Contributing Writer Matthew worked mainly with a small shrimp. nee. and tomato dish was his A lot of people are afraid 10 go into : the Turning Point. : Peace Corps The toughest JOb you'll rural bank. but he became involved in favorite. along with a wide variety of the Peace Corps,;" said Webb. "But * 13 Tai lane * ever love the agricultural side of the region as lru1ts. you never know unlil you try 11. I loved For Peace Corps volunteers T er sh well "I started a loom weaving factory "I loved 1t. said McCracken. ''I'm Fiji and the people when I left there" ***************•* * McCracken and Roger Matthew. both and later a co-op for manufacturing addicted to nee." he added that the 9 natives of Montana. this motto certainly and markellng the products It was very a m meal of barking deer. better known Coper Lane Main Mall holds true "People really look out for important for me to keep things simple as dog. and warm beer was not a you" said McCracken. "It's great · and 1nexpens1ve. Probably one of my favorite 2825 West Main McCracken. who became a volun best contributions was engineering a Volunteers also get a chance to teer in 1981 was sent to Malaysia for large feas1b1l1ty test on a tractor and travel and interact with people in other two years to teach math and science in then having to explain to a farme1 that commurnlies. "You find out how easy 1t SWEET a high school He is currently a first the tractor he planned on purchasing 1s to travel using public transportation," year medical student at MSU was not worth his money The farmer said Luth. Matthew graduated from MSU with a didn't like me very much after that'" "I could get from one end of the finance major before becoming a The last year of Matthew's service country to the other with $12 ," added volunteer in 1980. He lived 1n the Ph1lh was spent as a Peace Corps represen McCracken pines for three and a half years. first as tative 1n his area "I would v1s1t volun Most volunteers wouldn't dream of an advisor for a banking program and teers on their sights and see how they becoming movie stars in the Peace then as a Peace Corps representative were doing" Corps, but both McCracken and Mat for his area He 1s now a non-degree Both volunteers felt very welcome 1n thew gave the business a try Good for one FREE movie with graduate student at MSU their countries "A couple of families "A movie was being made on a hero According to David Webb.