E PL UR UM IB N U U S Congressional Record United States th of America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 107 CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION

Vol. 148 WASHINGTON, TUESDAY, APRIL 16, 2002 No. 42 House of Representatives The House met at 12:30 p.m. and was REFLECTING ON TAX DAY, APRIL total tax burden. This serves as an ex- called to order by the Speaker pro tem- 15 ample that we have made great strides pore (Mr. CULBERSON). Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Speaker, this reducing the Federal income tax bur- week we again come to view one of the den on all American taxpayers. f things Americans dread most, that is, However, there remains much to be tax day. It is a dreaded and feared day, done. The Federal tax burden continues DESIGNATION OF SPEAKER PRO a day on which taxpayers all across the to make up two-thirds of the total tax TEMPORE country are concentrating and reflect- burden. Individual income taxes and The SPEAKER pro tempore laid be- ing on America’s frustrating and com- payroll taxes are the primary culprits. fore the House the following commu- plex system of taxation. We also face, Mr. Speaker, hidden taxes nication from the Speaker: We in Congress should take time our- such as sales and excise tax on bev- erages. In fact, we are still paying a WASHINGTON, DC, selves to reflect on our Nation’s Tax April 16, 2002. Code and the problems it imposes upon Federal telephone tax instituted during I hereby appoint the Honorable JOHN the taxpayers of this country. April 15 the Spanish-American War. ABNEY CULBERSON to act as Speaker pro tem- serves as a stark reminder that my In addition, the taxpayer faces State pore on this day. constituents, and, in fact, all Ameri- and local taxes, which include property J. DENNIS HASTERT, cans, have paid entirely too much in taxes, sales taxes and additional in- Speaker of the House of Representatives. Federal taxes, more than food, clothing come taxes in most States. Wherever and shelter combined. The Federal tax one turns, he can expect to pay a tax f burden is the highest since World War on something. II. Finally, the taxpayer faces a cost of MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE Also Americans are paying taxes at complying with our Tax Code. Accord- A message from the Senate by Mr. the same time they are trying to pay ing to the Tax Foundation, in 2002 indi- Monahan, one of its clerks, announced off personal debt. Yes, we seem to for- viduals, businesses, and nonprofit orga- that the Senate has passed a concur- get that Americans have a debt to pay nizations will spend an estimated 5.8 rent resolution of the following title in down as well. They have mortgages, billion hours complying with the Fed- which the concurrence of the House is auto loans, credit card debt, and school eral income tax code with an estimated requested: loans. compliance cost of over $194 billion. S. Con. Res. 101. Concurrent resolution ex- We have stated time and time again This amounts to imposing a 20.4 cent tending birthday greetings and best wishes that Americans deserve tax relief; and tax compliance surcharge for every to Lionel Hampton on the occasion of his with the assistance of President Bush, dollar the income tax system collects. 94th birthday. we have given them just that relief. We We have kept our promise, Mr. passed the Economic Growth and Tax Speaker, in working with the President f Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, pro- to give Americans the tax relief they viding the economy a much-needed need. Later this week we will have the MORNING HOUR DEBATES boost with the rebate check provided opportunity to make that relief perma- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- to all American taxpayers. In addition, nent. The Economic Growth and Tax ant to the order of the House of Janu- the bill decreases the marginal tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 unfor- ary 23, 2002, the Chair will now recog- rate, reduces the marriage penalty, and tunately contained sunset provisions nize Members from lists submitted by eliminates the death tax. It increases which would end the tax relief after 10 the majority and minority leaders for the child adoption credits and the child years. We will have the opportunity to morning hour debates. The Chair will tax credit. We also passed the Job Cre- correct this oversight and give Ameri- alternate recognition between the par- ation and Worker Assistance Act, pro- cans permanent tax relief. ties, with each party limited to not to viding for additional tax decreases. In conclusion, in this country there exceed 30 minutes, and each Member, As a result of our efforts, Mr. Speak- are seven traits that really define who except the majority leader, the minor- er, according to the Tax Foundation, we are as Americans, cultural traits. ity leader, or the minority whip, lim- the average taxpayer will work 2 days One of those traits is we like reform. ited to not to exceed 5 minutes. less this year to pay off their total tax We are willing to change things. We are The Chair recognizes the gentleman bill. The so-called Tax Freedom Day, just not satisfied with the status quo in from Florida (Mr. STEARNS) for 5 min- April 27, represents an identifiable this country. We are always trying to utes. mark for Americans to gauge their improve.

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. H1292 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 Mr. Speaker, we are making progress. Without real payment-limitation re- b 1400 Let us continue to work harder and do form, we will continue to weaken the AFTER RECESS more for the American taxpayers of same farmers we claim to want to this country. help.’’ The recess having expired, the House f I want to just mention what that was called to order by the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. PENCE) at 2 p.m. AGRICULTURAL BILL PAYMENT loophole is. There are price-support LIMITATIONS benefit limits on a couple ways a farm- f er can derive those benefits, specifi- PRAYER The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- cally the loan deficiency payment and ant to the order of the House of Janu- the marketing loans. But what is left The Chaplain, the Reverend Daniel P. ary 23, 2002, the gentleman from Michi- out of that payment limit, which tends Coughlin, offered the following prayer: gan (Mr. SMITH) is recognized during to hoodwink a lot of people when we ‘‘O the happiness of the heavenly morning hour debates for 5 minutes. brag there are some kind of payment Alleluia sung in security, in fear of no Mr. SMITH of Michigan. Mr. Speak- limits in the House bill, is non-recourse adversity!’’ These words of Your serv- er, this afternoon I will introduce a loans. You can do an end-run and farm- ant Augustine from the fifth century motion to instruct conferees on the ag- ers can have a non-recourse loan that sound melodious, as from another ricultural bill that suggests that we they can forfeit, or the government world, when read in the springtime of need to incorporate payment limita- will give you the certificate that re- our conflicted lives. tions. sults in the same kind of subsidy ben- Lord, many Americans wonder if we Payment limitations now in effect efit payments for price supports as do have lost an innocence never to be re- are not binding simply because there is the loan deficiency payments in mar- gained. In the midst of war and unpre- a loophole in the law which allows keting loans. dictable terrorism, evil sometimes many farmers to receive $1 million- seems more creative than goodness. plus in farm benefit payments. One rea- It gets rather complicated, Mr. Speaker; but the fact is that we are Fear not only reveals the most fragile son I feel so strongly that it is reason- ones around us, uncertainty can cause able to have some kind of payment calling for, and we are going to have, a debate in this House tomorrow on the the strong to be hesitant and slow limits is that the public thinks that down a Nation’s progress. farmers are just being given a great reasonableness of having some kind of price limitations. Reassure us by Your presence, Lord. deal of money, regardless of their need, Out of compassion for Your people, regardless of their size. If we are going I am a farmer from Michigan. I grant a glimpse of Your glory so that to have farm program policy in the served as deputy administrator of hopefulness springs eternal and con- United States, then I and many others Farm Programs in the USDA in the fidence is restored. suggest that we focus our efforts on early seventies. Currently 82 percent of With hearts fixed on lasting values, those farmers that need that kind of the farm program payments go to 17 give the Members of Congress practical help. percent of the largest farm operations. wisdom to address the substantive We talk about the family farm, and, If we do not control this, if we do not issues which truly affect the lives of of course, we can get in arguments have some kind of a cap, some kind of their constituents. May their work to- about what is a family farm or how big a limit, we are going to lose the good gether build signs of hope that will is a family farm. But I think most of us will of the people of this Chamber, of move this country into a bright future. can agree that if someone has 40,000, the people in the Senate, of the people Amen. 50,000 or 60,000 acres and is taking in in the United States that really want millions of dollars of farm program to help those farmers. So payment lim- f payments, then probably this is not the itations of $275,000 per farmer per year THE JOURNAL mainstream type of family farm that is reasonable as structured in the Sen- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The most of us think of. ate version. I hope we can do that. Chair has examined the Journal of the I would like to read some quotes A couple more quotes, with your per- last day’s proceedings and announces from the Senate debate when this lan- mission, Mr. Speaker. Senator RICHARD to the House his approval thereof. guage was put into the Senate version LUGAR said, ‘‘This is a modest amend- Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Jour- of the bill. What this shows is that ment. I stress ‘modest.’ There were nal stands approved. there is tremendous bipartisan support 98,835 recipients of farm subsidies in In- for some kind of a limit on these farm diana during 1996 to 2000. Only six of f payments. that 98,000 would be affected by this PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Senator GRASSLEY, Republican from amendment.’’ Iowa, said, ‘‘When is enough enough? The SPEAKER pro tempore. Will the Senator TOM DASCHLE says, ‘‘I am gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. How long will the American public put pleased we were able to pass this im- up with these programs that send out PITTS) come forward and lead the portant payment limitation amend- House in the Pledge of Allegiance. billions of dollars to the biggest farm ment.’’ entities?’’ Mr. PITTS led the Pledge of Alle- BYRON DORGAN, Senator from North The President of the United States giance as follows: Dakota, a Democrat, said, ‘‘Many of says we need to help those small and I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the the benefits provided through the cur- medium-sized farmers that need it the United States of America, and to the Repub- rent ag programs are being funneled to most. lic for which it stands, one nation under God, large, non-family agricultural corpora- Mr. Speaker, I hope my colleagues indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. tions while family farmers are being will support me on this payment limi- f tation that the gentleman from Michi- shortchanged. That is just plain PRIVATE CALENDAR wrong.’’ gan (Mr. BONIOR) and I are offering to- Senator JOHN KERRY, Democrat of morrow. The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is Massachusetts: ‘‘This amendment en- the day for the call of the Private Cal- sures that farm aid will target the peo- f endar. The Clerk will call the bill on ple who need it the most, the small the Private Calendar. family farmers that actually work the RECESS f land and are the lifeblood of our rural communities. It is a pleasure to sup- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- NANCY B. WILSON port this amendment.’’ ant to clause 12 of rule I, the Chair de- The Clerk called the bill (H.R. 392) Senator CHUCK HAGEL, Republican: clares the House in recess until 2 p.m. for the relief of Nancy B. Wilson. ‘‘The amendment would remove the Accordingly (at 12 o’clock and 42 Mr. COBLE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unan- loopholes that allow a handful of large minutes p.m.), the House stood in re- imous consent that the bill be passed farmers to receive unlimited payments. cess until 2 p.m. over without prejudice. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1293 The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- DOE HAS IGNORED GEOLOGICAL objection to the request of the gen- er, I have introduced a resolution ex- PROBLEMS AT YUCCA MOUNTAIN tleman from North Carolina? pelling the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. (Mr. GIBBONS asked and was given There was no objection. TRAFICANT) from the House of Rep- permission to address the House for 1 The SPEAKER pro tempore. This resentatives. Last week, a Federal minute and to revise and extend his re- concludes the call of the Private Cal- court jury in Cleveland found the gen- marks.) endar. tleman from Ohio (Mr. TRAFICANT) Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, this f guilty on all 10 felony counts of a morning I joined with hundreds of criminal indictment. Regretfully, this Americans opposed to the idea of ship- BUSH TAX CUTS resolution is necessary because Mr. ping high-level nuclear waste across (Mr. PITTS asked and was given per- TRAFICANT foolishly rejected the call of the entire country to a geologically un- mission to address the House for 1 the minority leader to resign. Felons stable site in a Nevada desert. minute and to revise and extend his re- belong in jail and not in Congress. He Scientific evidence continues to marks.) has broken the public trust by break- mount showing that Yucca Mountain is Mr. PITTS. Mr. Speaker, yesterday ing the law; and if he will not volun- not a safe or sound location for nuclear millions of Americans lined up at post tarily leave this House, our duty is to waste, and evidence also shows that offices all over the country to get their remove him. the Department of Energy has ignored taxes in on time. And once again, as Throughout my tenure in the House, its geologic problems. this poster illustrates, the average I have consistently taken the position Even former DOE officials have American family spent more on taxes that Members who have been convicted agreed that the DOE has not held last year than food, clothing, shelter, of felonies should be expelled if they do Yucca Mountain to high scientific and transportation combined. not resign. In 1980, the House expelled standards. Dr. Victor Gilinsky, former Once again, the average wage earner Michael Meyers of Pennsylvania after commissioner of the U.S. Nuclear Reg- spends the first 3 hours of an 8-hour he refused to resign following convic- ulatory Commission, asserted in a working day laboring just to pay his tion of Abscam-related felonies. In 1995, sworn affidavit that the DOE’s site taxes. Once again, the equivalent of Walter Tucker of California was con- suitability standard is so lax that it every paycheck from January to the victed, initially refused to resign, and could be met in the basement of the middle of May goes just to pay taxes. changed his mind after I introduced an DOE headquarters here in Washington, Mr. Speaker, last year we joined the expulsion resolution. D.C. President in passing much-needed tax Mr. Speaker, I hope that Mr. TRAFI- Mr. Speaker, Americans deserve bet- relief for the American people. But be- CANT will follow the example of Mr. ter. The site suitability of a nuclear re- cause of opposition from the big spend- Tucker and save the House the need to pository should be based on science, ers in the other body, there is a sunset debate once again whether felons not politics. Yucca Mountain is not a clause in the law. In other words, un- should continue to serve in Congress. suitable site for the storage of the less we vote to make the tax cuts per- f deadliest substance known to man. I manent, everyone will get a big tax BROOKLAND BAPTIST CHURCH’S urge Members to oppose the DOE hike, the marriage penalty tax will 100TH ANNIVERSARY Yucca Mountain lie. come back, the death tax will come f back, the child tax credit will be cut in (Mr. WILSON of South Carolina half, IRAs will be cut by $3,000, and the asked and was given permission to ad- ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER economy will suffer. dress the House for 1 minute and to re- PRO TEMPORE This week we will vote on a bill to vise and extend his remarks.) Mr. WILSON of South Carolina. Mr. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- prevent this from happening. I urge my Speaker, the Good Book teaches us ant to the provisions of clause 8 of rule colleagues to support the effort to that the perseverance of a faithful few XX, the Chair announces that he will make the tax relief permanent for the can touch the lives of many for the bet- postpone further proceedings today on American people. ter. During the late 1800s in New each motion to suspend the rules on f Brookland, South Carolina, a small which a recorded vote or the yeas and group of men and women met together nays are ordered, or on which the vote EQUAL PAY DAY: CLOSING THE is objected to under clause 6 of rule WAGE GAP for prayer and worship. By 1902, the group had grown and the Brookland XX. (Mr. DAVIS of Illinois asked and was Baptist Church was founded. Any record votes on postponed ques- given permission to address the House For decades, the church has been a tions will be taken after debate has for 1 minute and to revise and extend refuge of hope, and the church began a concluded on all motions to suspend his remarks.) new chapter in 1971 when Rev. Charles the rules, but not before 6:30 p.m. Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I B. Jackson, Sr., became their ninth today. rise today to urge Congress to pass leg- pastor at the age of 18. Attracting f islation that will guarantee equal pay large crowds of over 4,000 members, the JOSEPH W. WESTMORELAND POST for equal work for women. Equal pay church bought and renovated a nearby OFFICE BUILDING for equal work should not even be a shopping center. I am honored that question in the year 2002. Yet women Earl Brown, a deacon, is my special as- Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. earn only 73 percent of wages earned by sistant. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules men for doing the same work with the Today, the church serves the commu- and pass the bill (H.R. 3960) to des- same qualifications. For African Amer- nity through HIV–AIDS program, ignate the facility of the United States ican women, it is only 64 cents on a homeless outreach, the Black Male Postal Service located at 3719 Highway dollar; and for Hispanic women, 52 Conference, scouting programs, rec- 4 in Jay, Florida, as the ‘‘Joseph W. cents for every dollar earned by men. reational and tutorial programs, and Westmoreland Post Office Building’’. The time for pay equity is now. Let us has even organized a full-service credit The Clerk read as follows: do the right thing: pass equal pay for union. The church is one of South H.R. 3960 women. Carolina’s largest African American Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- f congregations. resentatives of the United States of America in This year, as Brookland Baptist Congress assembled, TRAFICANT EXPULSION Church celebrates its 100th anniver- SECTION 1. JOSEPH W. WESTMORELAND POST RESOLUTION INTRODUCED sary, it is very easy to see how this OFFICE BUILDING. (a) DESIGNATION.—The facility of the (Mr. SENSENBRENNER asked and once-small group of believers has United States Postal Service located at 3719 was given permission to address the grown to make the lives of those Highway 4 in Jay, Florida, shall be known House for 1 minute and to revise and around them immeasurably improved and designated as the ‘‘Joseph W. Westmore- extend his remarks.) for the better. land Post Office Building’’. H1294 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 (b) REFERENCES.—Any reference in a law, munity and enjoyed it. I urge swift pas- Joseph Willis Westmoreland was an map, regulation, document, paper, or other sage of this resolution. admirable American and a public serv- record of the United States to the facility re- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of ant. He was among the greatest genera- ferred to in subsection (a) shall be deemed to my time. tion and served in the Army during be a reference to the Joseph W. Westmore- Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. land Post Office Building. World War II. World War II veterans Speaker, I yield such time as he may alone represent nearly 40 percent of all The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- consume to the gentleman from Flor- American war participants. These ant to the rule, the gentlewoman from ida (Mr. JEFF MILLER), the distin- great individuals risked their lives for Virginia (Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS) and the guished sponsor of the bill. the future of this country and we must gentleman from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) Mr. JEFF MILLER of Florida. Mr. keep our promise to them. Mr. Speak- each will control 20 minutes. Speaker, it is a great privilege to rise er, the World War II veteran population The Chair recognizes the gentle- today as the House considers H.R. 3960, is aging and we must keep our promise woman from Virginia (Mrs. JO ANN a bill to designate the United States to these individuals and give them the DAVIS). Postal Service Facility located in Jay, Social Security benefits we guaranteed GENERAL LEAVE Florida, as the Joseph W. Westmore- to them when they went off to war. Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. land Post Office Building. Joseph Westmoreland served as the Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that Mr. Speaker, earlier this year I intro- postmaster of the Jay Post Office in all Members may have 5 legislative duced this measure to provide a fitting Jay, Florida for 41 years. He dedicated days within which to revise and extend tribute to the service and life of the his working years to public service and their remarks on H.R. 3960, the bill man who did so much for that area of made our government a better place. under consideration. the State in northwest Florida. After a lifetime of public service, Mr. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Mr. Joseph Westmoreland was born Westmoreland retired to enjoy his objection to the request of the gentle- to humble beginnings in South Caro- golden years. Like over 32 million woman from Virginia? lina before serving in the Army Air Americans, Mr. Westmoreland relied There was no objection. Corps during World War II. Upon leav- on Social Security as a safety net. In Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. ing service in 1946, Joe married Evelyn, Florida alone, where this post office Speaker, I yield myself such time as I whom he had met while stationed at will be dedicated, there are over 3 mil- may consume. Hurlburt Field. The couple moved to lion Social Security recipients. The Mr. Speaker, H.R. 3960, introduced by Jay, where Evelyn’s father owned a Republican budget taps into the Social the gentleman from Florida (Mr. JEFF small grocery store, and where they Security trust fund and jeopardizes the MILLER) designates the facility of the would share 55 years of marriage. future of these millions of seniors in United States Postal Service located at Joe was appointed postmaster by Florida and throughout the country. 3719 Highway 4 in Jay, Florida, as the Congress in 1948, a position he would The Joseph W. Westmoreland Post Joseph W. Westmoreland Post Office serve in for 41 years until his retire- Office Building in Florida will be an- Building. ment. Time and time again, Joe proved other shining example of what good Mr. Speaker, Joseph Westmoreland himself not only an exemplary post- government is all about. The Postal was appointed as postmaster at the master, but a strong community leader Service has a slogan, ‘‘We deliver.’’ Jay, Florida, post office in 1948, where until his death January 28 of last year. Sadly, Mr. Speaker, this Congress con- he served for 41 years until his retire- While living in Jay, he became a char- tinues not to deliver for America’s re- ment in September 1989. Prior to this ter member of the Jay Lions Club and tirement. This Congress, after spending appointment, Mr. Westmoreland also served in many positions in the Jay down the surplus, continues to pass served in our Nation’s military during United Methodist Church, from teach- legislation to raid the Social Security World War II as a member of the Army ing adult Sunday school classes to trust fund. Our seniors deserve better. Air Corps. Throughout his life, Mr. chair of the finance committee. Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I Westmoreland distinguished himself as Joe was an example to all of us that yield myself such time as I may con- a community leader, constantly work- a civil servant is forever indebted to sume. ing for what was best for northwest the people he serves. His faith taught I can imagine that over a period of 41 Florida. Mr. Speaker, I urge adoption him that there is no greater act than years as postmaster that Mr. West- of H.R. 3960. service to fellow man, and his life was moreland must have passed out hun- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of a testament to these beliefs. Although dreds and thousands of Social Security my time. Joe is not with us today, his legacy of checks and people probably would Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I service and dedication to community come to the post office with a smile on yield myself such time as I may con- serves as a shining example to those in their face and with glee in their heart, sume. northwest Florida. knowing that they were going to pick Mr. Speaker, I thank Joe’s wife, Eve- Mr. Speaker, as a Member of the up that valued Social Security check. I lyn, and his sons, Lofton and Dale, for Committee on Government Reform, I would just hope that we never do any- sharing their husband and father with am pleased to join my colleague in the thing that would jeopardize or take the communities for so many years. consideration of H.R. 3960, a measure away the opportunity for people to I would like to thank the Committee which names a postal facility after Jo- continue to have that feeling. on Government Reform, the gentleman Mr. Speaker, I urge the passage of seph W. Westmoreland, introduced by from Indiana (Mr. BURTON), and the this resolution. the gentleman from Florida (Mr. JEFF gentleman from California (Mr. WAX- Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance MILLER) on March 13, 2002, and enjoys MAN) for their assistance in getting of my time. the support and cosponsorship of the this bill to the floor, and urge my col- Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. Florida congressional delegation. This leagues to support this measure to rec- Speaker, I yield myself such time as I measure was originally introduced by ognize a man who dedicated over 4 dec- may consume. our former colleague, Mr. Scarborough. ades of his life to the people of Jay, I urge the adoption of this measure Mr. Speaker, Joseph Westmoreland Florida. honoring an exemplary civil servant. was a member of the postal commu- Mr. Speaker, I have no further re- nity, serving as postmaster of the Jay, b 1415 quests for time, and I yield back the Florida, post office for 41 years until Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I balance of my time. his retirement in 1989. A World War II yield such times he may consume to The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. veteran, community leader, and very the gentleman from Texas (Mr. PENCE). The question is on the motion devout member of the Jay United SANDLIN). offered by the gentlewoman from Vir- Methodist Church, Mr. Westmoreland Mr. SANDLIN. Mr. Speaker, I rise ginia (Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS) that the was a civil servant who believed in today to support H.R. 3960, to designate House suspend the rules and pass the going the extra mile to help the public. a post office in Jay, Florida, as the Jo- bill, H.R. 3960. As a matter of fact, there are some who seph W. Westmoreland Post Office The question was taken; and (two- would say he was a servant of the com- Building. thirds having voted in favor thereof) April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1295 the rules were suspended and the bill Mr. Speaker, I urge adoption of H.R. velopment in northern Michigan. He was passed. 1374. was actually the first Congressman A motion to reconsider was laid on Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of representing this northern Michigan the table. my time. district to have district offices, dem- f Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I onstrating his focus on local concerns. yield myself such time as I may con- Mr. Ruppe was well respected by all PHILIP E. RUPPE POST OFFICE sume. Members of Congress. BUILDING Mr. Speaker, as a member of the Before Mr. Ruppe retired, former Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. Committee on Government Reform, I Member Sonny Montgomery best sum- Speaker, I move to suspend the rules am pleased to join with my colleague, marized Phil Ruppe when he said, and and pass the bill (H.R. 1374) to des- the gentlewoman from Virginia (Mrs. I quote, ‘‘I have always been impressed ignate the facility of the United States JO ANN DAVIS) in consideration of H.R. with Phil’s intense interest and dedica- Postal Service located at 600 Calumet 1374, legislation naming a postal facil- tion to his legislative committees. He Street in Lake Linden, Michigan, as ity after former Congressman Philip E. has never failed to be an effective the ‘‘Philip E. Ruppe Post Office Build- Ruppe. H.R. 1374 was introduced by the member and contribute to the delibera- ing’’. gentleman from Michigan (Mr. STUPAK) tion of the Interior and Insular Affairs The Clerk read as follows: on April 3, 2001. This bill enjoys the Committee and the Merchant Marine H.R. 1374 support and cosponsorship of the entire and Fisheries Committee.’’ Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- Michigan delegation. Mr. Speaker, a fitting tribute to Phil resentatives of the United States of America in Mr. Ruppe represented northern Ruppe’s service to northern Michigan Congress assembled, Michigan from 1967 until 1979. During would be naming the Lake Linden Post SECTION 1. PHILIP E. RUPPE POST OFFICE his tenure in Congress, Mr. Ruppe BUILDING. Office after Phil Ruppe. I would like to (a) DESIGNATION.—The facility of the served on the Merchant Marine and thank the chairman of the Committee United States Postal Service located at 600 Fisheries and Interior and Insular Af- on Government Reform the gentleman Calumet Street in Lake Linden, Michigan, fairs Committees, always dedicated to from Indiana (Mr. BURTON) and the shall be known and designated as the ‘‘Philip improving the quality of life for his ranking member, the gentleman from E. Ruppe Post Office Building’’. constituents back home. California (Mr. WAXMAN) for moving (b) REFERENCES.—Any reference in a law, An active member of his community this legislation. I would like to thank map, regulation, document, paper, or other and noted businessman, he will long be record of the United States to the facility re- the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. ferred to in subsection (a) shall be deemed to remembered for his service to this DAVIS) and also the gentlewoman from be a reference to the Philip E. Ruppe Post House as well as service to the people Virginia (Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS) for mov- Office Building. of northern Michigan. ing forth the legislation on the floor. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he I ask my colleagues to support this ant to the rule, the gentlewoman from may consume to the gentleman from bill. Virginia (Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS) and the Michigan (Mr. STUPAK), the sponsor of Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, gentleman from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) this legislation. it is my pleasure to yield such time as each will control 20 minutes. Mr. STUPAK. I thank the gentleman he may consume to the gentleman The Chair recognizes the gentle- for yielding me this time. from Arkansas (Mr. ROSS). woman from Virginia (Mrs. JO ANN Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to offer Mr. ROSS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in sup- DAVIS). H.R. 1374, to designate the United port of H.R. 1374, to designate a post of- GENERAL LEAVE States Post Office in Lake Linden, fice in Lake Linden, Michigan, as the Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. Michigan, as the Philip E. Ruppe Post Philip E. Ruppe Post Office Building. I Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that Office Building. am always satisfied when we honor a all Members may have 5 legislative Mr. Ruppe, as has been noted, became former colleague. days to revise and extend their re- a Member of the United States House However, we should also be working marks on the bill under consideration. of Representatives on January 3, 1967, to protect the Social Security trust The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there and served until January 3, 1979. Phil fund from being raided. As we debate objection to the request of the gentle- Ruppe was born in Laurium, Michigan, H.R. 1374, a good bill that will benefit woman from Virginia? on September 29, 1926, where his family hundreds or maybe thousands of Amer- There was no objection. has lived since the 1870s. icans, we should also think about the Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. Mr. Ruppe married the former Loret millions of Americans who currently Speaker, I yield myself such time as I Miller and she went on to serve as di- survive only on a Social Security in- may consume. rector of the Peace Corps and Ambas- come, like my 91-year-old grandmother H.R. 1374, introduced by the distin- sador to Norway. Phil and Loret taught back home in Prescott, Arkansas, who guished gentleman from Michigan (Mr. their daughters the intrinsic value of lives from Social Security check to So- STUPAK), designates the facility of the public service. Unfortunately, Mr. cial Security check. Do they not de- United States Postal Service located at Speaker, Loret Ruppe passed away in serve to live their latter years with 600 Calumet Street in Lake Linden, 1996. dignity? Michigan, as the Philip E. Ruppe Post Throughout his lifetime, Mr. Phil If we continue to pass fiscally irre- Office Building. Ruppe was a community leader and sponsible legislation that raids the So- Mr. Speaker, Philip Ruppe was first businessman in the Keewanaw Penin- cial Security trust fund, when will it elected to the United States House of sula located in Michigan’s Upper Pe- be before their benefits are cut? Some- Representatives from Michigan’s Upper ninsula. Besides serving this country time between 2011 and 2016, we are Peninsula in 1966 and served with dis- as a legislator, Phil Ruppe served his going to have more people earning So- tinction until 1979. Prior to his con- country as a lieutenant in the United cial Security benefits than paying into gressional service, Mr. Ruppe served in States Navy during the Korean con- the Social Security system. Everyone the United States Navy during the Ko- flict. agrees that by 2041, Social Security as rean War. While in Congress, Mr. Ruppe was de- we know it today is broke. Mr. Ruppe, with his long family his- voted to the concerns of the people of My grandparents left an America a tory in Michigan, has contributed to northern Michigan and was a member, little bit better than they found for my his community as an active civic lead- as has been noted, of the Merchant Ma- parents. And my parents left us a little er and respected businessman. He rine and Fisheries Committee and the bit better country than they found for brought this leadership and concern Interior and Insular Affairs Com- us. I think we owe it to our children from northern Michigan to the Mer- mittee. One of his legislative achieve- and our grandchildren to ensure that chant Marine and Fisheries Committee ments included establishing the Father we live the kind of life and make the and the Interior and Insular Affairs Marquette National Memorial near St. kind of decisions, the kind of respon- Committee where he served as the Ignace, Michigan. Mr. Ruppe was de- sible decisions, sometimes difficult as ranking member. voted to constituent and economic de- they may be, but we must do those H1296 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 things to ensure that we leave this One of the things that has made Statehood Award, serving as a Goodwill Am- country just a little bit better off than America strong is the fact that we bassador for the United States, and receiving we found it for our kids and our have always been able to rely upon the Honor Cross for Science and the Arts, grandkids. some assistance in our old age. We First Class, one of Austria’s highest decora- What about the millions of baby tions; have always known, after we passed Whereas Lionel Hampton is one of the boomers who will soon retire? Again, the legislation, that when it came to a most recorded artists in the history of jazz; between 2011 and 2016 we will have certain period of time, you could look Whereas Lionel Hampton has opened doors more people earning Social Security forward to having some help, you could for aspiring musicians throughout the world, benefits than those paying into the know that you had a Social Security many of whom have established themselves system. By 2041, Social Security as we check coming. You could just rely upon as giants in the world of jazz, including Cat know it today is broke. And guess it and know that it was there. Anderson, Terrance Blanchard, Clifford what? That is assuming that the tril- I would hope that as we name these Brown, Conte Candoli, Pete Candoli, Betty Carter, Ray Charles, Nat ‘‘King’’ Cole, Bing lion dollars plus that has been bor- post offices in memory of Americans rowed from the Social Security system, Crosby, Art Farmer, Carl Fontana, Aretha who have made great contributions, Franklin, Benny Golson, Al Grey, Slide with no provision on how it ever gets that we also keep in mind that we need Hampton, Joe Henderson, Quincy Jones, paid back, is paid back by 2041. to keep the tradition of Social Secu- Bradford Marsalis, Wes Montgomery, James It is time that we stop raiding the rity being available alive, well and Moody, Fats Navarro, Joe Newman, Nicholas Social Security trust fund. That is why healthy. Payton, Benny Powell, Buddy Tate, Clark the first bill I filed as a Member of Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance Terry, Stanley Turrentine, Dinah Wash- Congress was a bill to tell the politi- of my time. ington, and Joe Williams, among others; Whereas Lionel Hampton has worked to cians in Washington to keep their Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. hands off the Social Security and Medi- perpetuate the art form of jazz by offering Speaker, I yield myself such time as I his talent, inspiration, and production acu- care trust fund. may consume. I hope that when those retirees who men to the University of Idaho since 1983, Mr. Speaker, I urge adoption of this and in 1985, when the University of Idaho go to the Philip E. Ruppe Post Office worthy measure honoring one of our named its school of music after him, Lionel expecting to pick up a Social Security former colleagues. Hampton became the first jazz musician to check in a few years, I hope they are Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance have both a music school and a jazz festival not left with an empty promise. I hope of my time. named in his honor; they have a Social Security check in Whereas Lionel Hampton has received The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. their post office building just as our many national accolades, awards, and com- seniors do today, a check that many of PENCE). The question is on the motion memorations, including an American Jazz them live on from paycheck to pay- offered by the gentlewoman from Vir- Masters Fellowship from the National En- check. ginia (Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS) that the dowment for the Arts, Kennedy Center Hon- Let us pass this bill, but let us quit House suspend the rules and pass the ors, and a National Medal of Arts; bill, H.R. 1374. Whereas Lionel Hampton has received nu- raiding the Social Security trust fund merous awards and commendations by local Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I The question was taken. The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the and State governments and has received ac- yield such time as he may consume to knowledgment from hundreds of civic and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. opinion of the Chair, two-thirds of performance groups; CONYERS), the dean of the Congres- those present have voted in the affirm- Whereas Lionel Hampton’s legacy of inspi- sional Black Caucus. ative. ration, education, and excellence will be per- Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I am Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. petuated by the development of the Lionel pleased that the ranking member, the Speaker, on that I demand the yeas Hampton Center at the University of Idaho, gentleman from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) and nays. a facility that combines the finest in per- would allow me some time, because I The yeas and nays were ordered. formance, scholarship, and research; The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Whereas Lionel Hampton has made a dif- knew Phil Ruppe and worked with him. ference in many lives by inspiring so many He was a real gentleman, a collegial ant to clause 8 of rule XX and the who have now become jazz greats, by rein- Member of Congress. We worked on Chair’s prior announcement, further forcing the importance of education at all many projects together. I also wanted proceedings on this motion will be levels, and by showing the world a way of life to raise the memory of his wife, Loret postponed. where love and talent are shared without reservation: Now, therefore, be it Ruppe, who was a former head of the f Peace Corps and an Ambassador to Resolved by the Senate (the House of Rep- Norway as well. I do not think it has EXTENDING BIRTHDAY GREETINGS resentatives concurring), That the Congress, on behalf of the American people, extends its ever been done before, but if ever there AND BEST WISHES TO LIONEL HAMPTON birthday greetings and best wishes to Lionel was a case for naming this Federal fa- Hampton on the occasion of his 94th birth- cility after both a husband and wife, Mr. OTTER. Mr. Speaker, I move to day. this would be it. Unfortunately, she is suspend the rules and concur in the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- deceased but those of us who remember Senate concurrent resolution (S. Con. ant to the rule, the gentleman from this great couple from Michigan will Res. 101) extending birthday greetings Idaho (Mr. OTTER) and the gentleman remember and think very highly of the and best wishes to Lionel Hampton on from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) each will con- very appropriate memorialization of a the occasion of his 94th birthday. trol 20 minutes. building in their honor. The Clerk read as follows: The Chair recognizes the gentleman b 1430 S. CON. RES. 101 from Idaho (Mr. OTTER). Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I Whereas Lionel Hampton is regarded inter- GENERAL LEAVE yield myself such time as I may con- nationally as one of the greatest jazz musi- Mr. OTTER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unan- cians of all time and has shared his talents imous consent that all Members may sume. with the world for more than eight decades; Mr. Speaker, I certainly want to Whereas Lionel Hampton has consistently have 5 legislative days within which to thank the gentleman from Michigan exemplified acceptance, tolerance, and the revise and extend their remarks on S. for his fond memories of Mr. Ruppe and celebration of racial and cultural diversity, Con. Res. 101. the fact that we are naming this postal by being one of the first black musicians to The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there facility for him. perform in venues and events previously objection to the request of the gen- People often wonder why it is that open only to white performers, including per- tleman from Idaho? you are naming Federal buildings and formances with the Benny Goodman Quartet There was no objection. why you are naming post offices and from 1936–1940, and as the first black musi- Mr. OTTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- how important is this. Well, it is im- cian to perform for a presidential inaugura- self such time as I may consume. tion, that of Harry S Truman in 1949; portant because people who have made Whereas Lionel Hampton has furthered the Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to have America, who have made America cause of cultural understanding and inter- the House consider Senate Concurrent strong, ought to in fact be remem- national communication, receiving a Papal Resolution 101, a resolution introduced bered. Medallion from Pope Pius XII, the Israel by my colleague, Senator LARRY CRAIG April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1297 from Idaho. This resolution is virtually truly been blessed, not only with the and First Lady HILLARY RODHAM CLIN- identical to its House version, House gift of playing music, but also the abil- TON at the White House. Concurrent Resolution 363, introduced ity to communicate his love of music Lionel Hampton is a beloved classic by my distinguished colleague, the gen- to so many.’’ in American jazz and popular music, tleman from Michigan (Mr. CONYERS). Mr. Speaker, it is appropriate that and I join with the gentleman from This resolution extends birthday the House recognize the dedicated and Michigan (Mr. CONYERS) and others in wishes to Lionel Hampton, the undis- outstanding accomplishments of Lionel both the House and Senate as sponsors puted ‘‘King of the Vibraphone.’’ Lio- Hampton today. He improved the lives of this resolution in congratulating nel Hampton, whose enduring contribu- of all who have heard and been touched Lionel Hampton on his 94th birthday. I tions as an extraordinary musician and by his love for jazz and his musical tal- thank him for his contribution to artistic achievements symbolize the ent. international music. impact that he has had on jazz and that Mr. Speaker, I ask all Members to Mr. OTTER. Mr. Speaker, I continue jazz music has had on our culture. support this resolution. to reserve the balance of my time. Happy birthday, Lionel Hampton. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Lionel Hampton has de- my time. it is my pleasure to yield such time as voted his life to the love and the belief Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I he may consume to the gentleman in jazz and music and education. Lionel yield myself such time as I may con- from Hawaii (Mr. ABERCROMBIE). Hampton has stated, ‘‘Nothing is more sume. Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I important than doing something that Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to join thank the gentleman for yielding me you like, and that’s jazz music. My with the gentleman from Idaho in con- time. Mr. Speaker, my remarks today are heart and my soul are in jazz.’’ sideration of this resolution. of a personal nature because I expect Mr. Hampton was born in Louisville, Lionel Hampton is an internationally that the relationship that most of us Kentucky, on April 20, 1908. In the acclaimed jazz artist and undisputed have to Lionel Hampton is in fact per- 1930s, Lionel Hampton’s musical career King of the Vibraphone. Lionel Hamp- ton, who began his career as a drum- sonal. hit its stride when he began playing I recall very clearly I think almost mer, has been thrilling individuals like with such musical luminaries as Louis the first moment that I became aware the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Armstrong and Benny Goodman. Lio- of what was in fact America’s contribu- CONYERS) with his music for well over nel Hampton formed his own band in tion to the music of the world, jazz, 50 years. the early 1940s, writing top-of-the- when I inadvertently one afternoon Hampton’s idol during his early years chart sellers, including his signature was at a friend’s house, and, com- was drummer Jimmy Bertrand, and tune, ‘‘Flying Home.’’ Lionel Hampton pletely without knowledge of what ex- drums became Lionel’s first instru- was the first black musician to perform actly I was doing, I had recently taken ment. However, Hampton so impressed for a Presidential inauguration, that of up the trumpet, and the gentleman Louis Armstrong that he invited the Harry S. Truman in 1949. from Michigan (Mr. CONYERS) is laugh- young drummer to join his big band In his lifetime, Mr. Speaker, Lionel ing at the moment because he knows Hampton has received numerous pres- rhythm section for a recording session. when I say ‘‘taken up the trumpet,’’ I tigious awards. These include the title During a session break, Armstrong had just picked it up, because I was not of American Goodwill Ambassador be- pointed to a set of vibes at the back of able to do much more than that. I was stowed on him by President Eisen- his studio and asked Hampton if he a living example of ambition over tech- hower and President Nixon, along with knew how to play them. Taking up the nique and talent, and I can see that the Papal Medal from Pope Paul I. challenge, Lionel, who was well that relates then to a lot of Members President George H.W. Bush appointed schooled in his keyboard studies, here. him to the Board of the Kennedy Cen- picked up the mallets and said he But what had happened was I saw ter, and President Clinton awarded him would give it a go. Of course, the rest something that said ‘‘Carnegie Hall the National Medal of Arts in 1992. is history. Concert, 1938, Benny Goodman Orches- Lionel Hampton branched out in his In 1936, Benny Goodman signed Lio- tra,’’ and I had no idea at that time as musical career by running his own pub- nel Hampton to form the Benny Good- a little boy what that might involve. lishing companies and his own record man Quartet. The Quartet made his- For those who are familiar with it, label. In the 1980s, Lionel Hampton tory, not only for its great history, but this was the concert that was made al- founded the Lionel Hampton Develop- because they were the first racially in- most as an afterthought, with a single ment Corporation, which was respon- tegrated group of jazz musicians. overhead microphone, tape that was in sible for building two multi-million- In the 1940s, Lionel Hampton formed Benny Goodman’s closet for many dollar apartment complexes in Harlem. his own big band, the Lionel Hampton years, finally found it, and that was In 1985, the Lionel Hampton Jazz Fes- Quartet. ‘‘Sunny Side of the Street’’ when the quartet that the gentleman tival was launched at the University of and ‘‘Central Avenue Breakdown’’ are from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS) cited, the Idaho in Moscow, Idaho. The festival two of his most highly successful first integrated quartet, not integrated has become a nationally acclaimed records. He flew to the top of the in terms of musicians, integrated in event, featuring 4 days of concerts, charts with his recording of ‘‘Flying terms of America’s true voice of jazz, clinics, and student competitions. In Home’’ in 1942 and ‘‘Hamp’s Boogie- with white and black musicians, had 1987, the music school at the Univer- Woogie’’ in 1943. been gathered together, with Teddy sity of Idaho was named the Lionel Many now-famous musicians and Wilson on piano and Gene Kruppa on Hampton School of Music, becoming singers had their start with the Lionel drums, and, of course, Benny Goodman the first musical school of a university Hampton Orchestra. Among these were playing the lead in the quartet on clar- to be named for a jazz musician. Lionel Quincy Jones, Cat Anderson, Diana inet and Lionel Hampton on the vibes. Hampton has stated that this event Washington, Joe Williams, and Aretha When I heard that quartet playing, I was the highlight of his distinguished Franklin. had never heard anything like it in my career. Hampton has received innumerable life. It is so vivid in my mind, even now I might also state, Mr. Speaker, that prestigious awards over the years. He as I am speaking. And it is an emo- Lionel Hampton created more than was bestowed the title of Official tional experience, because we have cer- just a school of music, because that in- American Goodwill Ambassador by tain transcendent moments in our stitution today has become a cultural Presidents Eisenhower and Nixon, the lives, and that was not just one of center for celebrating the diversities Papal Medal from Pope Paul I, and the them, but perhaps one that most that we have in race, in creed, and in Gold Medal of Paris, France’s highest formed the world for me, a world view social life and also in music. cultural award. In 1992 he received the at the time, as to what was possible. We honor Lionel Hampton on his up- highly coveted Kennedy Center Honors The excitement of it, the vitality of it, coming 94th birthday on April 20, be- Award, and in 1997 he received the Na- the vividness of the playing, the exu- cause Lionel Hampton is, in the words tional Medal of the Arts, bestowed by berance, it was everything and any- of David Friesen, ‘‘. . . a man that has President William Jefferson Clinton thing that could be expected and hoped H1298 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 for in American music and, by exten- versal language, and it is my pleasure National Public Radio did a profile sion then, our gift, as I said before, to to yield such time as he might con- on Lionel Hampton, and I am going to the world. sume to the gentleman from Michigan include it in my remarks. It details all Lionel Hampton was a particularly (Mr. CONYERS), one who is known as a of the people that have been connected meaningful part of that, because, along culturist, but also an impresario him- with this great musician. with Gene Kruppa on the drums, I do self. Now, it is only appropriate to men- not think you can find, except perhaps (Mr. CONYERS asked and was given tion that he was not the first great jazz in the hero of both of them, Louis Arm- permission to revise and extend re- vibraphonist. As a matter of fact, Red strong, anyone in jazz more enthusi- marks.) Norvo was the first person to popu- astic, more full of life, more expressive Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I thank larize that instrument. But his enthu- of the innate vitality of jazz, than Gene the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. siasm and his learning of music, be- Kruppa and Lionel Hampton playing DAVIS), the ranking member of the sub- cause he was originally a drummer, but together; and that excited me as a committee for yielding me this time, he studied piano, as has been indicated, young boy. It motivated me in trying and I thank the gentleman from Idaho but he laid the groundwork for the to do the best I could with that trum- (Mr. OTTER), the chairman of the sub- greatest jazz bebop vibraphonist, Milt pet, becoming involved in a jazz band committee. Jackson, the late Milt Jackson, who in high school; and I cannot think, as I I am delighted to be here, because was at his birthday, another birthday look back and I try to recall in my life Lionel Hampton is coming to the Cap- celebration in New York, and he came to this point, of a single minute, a sin- itol tomorrow and I am hoping that a to pay tribute. Bill Cosby was there, gle moment, when I was not happy number of us will be able to celebrate, who was another great jazz aficionado. playing music, that it did not give me not just his birthday, but his life and Mr. Speaker, it is just a marvelous a sense of self that was always by defi- works. The gentleman from Idaho and thing that we here in the House and in nition optimistic, I can tell my col- a number of people from the University the Senate would collaborate to get leagues, if they ever heard me play. of Idaho will be here and we will be this resolution out just in time for Lio- able to see and enjoy the company of b 1445 nel Hampton to make his appearance this great legend. on the Hill tomorrow. I had a great tone, though. That was Now, some wonder why on earth So I congratulate the committee for the thing. If only Hampton heard it, he would a university in Moscow, Idaho, its expeditious work, and I look for- would have said, kid, you got a great of all places, decide to name its insti- ward to presenting this resolution to tone; too bad you missed out on the tution after Lionel Hampton. Well, I Lionel Hampton tomorrow. talent part. I cannot think of a single am glad that question was asked, be- BIOGRAPHY moment when I was not happy, not be- cause years ago, and I think it was in There is some confusion about the year of cause I had any ambition to play the the 1930s, someone there used to call Lionel Hampton’s birth, which has some- way that Hampton and Krupa and Lionel Hampton and beg him to either times been given as 1908. Around 1916 he Goodman and Wilson played, but that come in or send jazz musicians and Lio- moved with his family to Chicago, where he that was my way of sharing with them nel Hampton would always come out to began his career playing drums in various the creative instinct that is in all of us Idaho. And gradually, over the years, lesser bands. In the late 1920s he was based in and which had been freed in all of us by the jazz department, the music depart- Culver City, California, where he worked in Lionel Hampton and all of the pioneers ment began to grow, because no one clubs and took part in several recording ses- sions (1930) with Louis Armstrong, who en- of jazz in this country. could figure out why all of these people It is fitting, of course, that we cele- couraged him to take up vibraphone. Hamp- were flying in from New York and Los ton soon became the leading jazz performer brate this today because Lionel Hamp- Angeles to celebrate with the Univer- on this instrument, and achieved wide rec- ton is, of course, approaching almost a sity of Idaho. Lionel Hampton would ognition through his many film appearances century. He has achieved iconic status, either go himself or, if he could not go, with Les Hite’s band. After playing infor- and for good reason, because that tal- he would send someone, and the school mally with Benny Goodman in 1936 he began ent and that liveliness and that exu- has become one of the famous music in- to work in Goodman’s small ensembles, with berance for life and for his music has stitutions that grants degrees in the which he performed and recorded regularly been carried over into every venue in country. until 1940; as a result he became one of the which he has exposed himself to the So with this American music called most celebrated figures of the swing period, American public and, in fact, the and his resounding success allowed him to jazz came the references that were form his own big band in 1940. world. If there is anything that charac- made by my colleague about how the This group, which at times has included terizes Lionel Hampton, and for those social, musical, religious and racial di- musicians of the stature of Cat Anderson, Il- who have not had the opportunity to versity grew up in that State and out linois Jacquet, Clifford Brown, and Quincy see him in person, to listen to him in of that university, and now it brings in Jones, has been one of the most long-lived person, they have missed out on one of people from all over the world. I was and consistently popular large ensembles in the greatest experiences of life. There privileged to be there one year myself. jazz. From the 1950s Hampton undertook nu- is no one in music, there is no one in So this is a wonderful occasion. I am merous ‘‘goodwill’’ tours to Europe, Japan, life that exudes more of the core of cre- confident that this resolution will be Australia, Africa, the Middle East, and else- where, and made a large number of television ativity and what it means to be a unanimously supported by the Mem- appearances, attracting a huge and enthusi- human being in terms of that cre- bers. I just wanted to add a comment astic international following. ativity than Lionel Hampton. about Lionel Hampton the musician, Hampton performed in the Royal Festival I want to conclude, Mr. Speaker, by the human being, because he is one of Hall, London, in 1957, and played at the saying that we, as a species, differen- the warmest, most outgoing people White House for President Carter in 1978; tiate ourselves from all of the other that one could have ever hoped to during the same year he formed his own species on the earth by our ability to meet, and when he performs, it is like record label, Who’s Who in Jazz, to issue reflect and our ability to imagine. As I he has to put everything into every mainstream recordings. In the mid 1980s his band continued to draw capacity crowds reflect on this life force called Lionel performance. Every performance is his throughout the world. Hampton was honored Hampton, and as I reflect on the capac- best; complete, exhaustive, exuberant. as alumnus of the year by the University of ity to create that he exemplifies, I can He goes up and down the aisles and out Southern California in 1983. think of no greater example of what it into the street and anywhere else, and Hampton was not the first jazz musician to means to be a good and true human his music is infectious. Everybody goes take up vibraphone (Red Norvo had preceded being and creative person, a life force along with it. him in the late 1920s), but it was he who gave of which we can all be proud to have As the gentleman from Hawaii was the instrument an identity in jazz, applying mentioning about the epiphany that a wide range of attacks and generating re- known musically and to be able to markable swing on an instrument otherwise honor today. can occur when one listens to great known for its bland, disembodied sound. Un- Mr. OTTER: Mr. Speaker, I reserve jazz, and Lionel Hampton, when we doubtedly his best work was done with the the balance of my time. think of all of the people that he has Goodman Quartet from 1936–1940, when he re- Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I been associated with that came out of vealed a fine ear for small-ensemble improvi- have been told that music is a uni- his group, we understand why. sation and an unrestrained, ebullient manner April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1299

as a soloist. The big band format was prob- their start with Lionel Hampton are Quincy (2) RETURNS POSITIONS.—The amendment ably better suited to the display of his flam- Jones, Wes Montgomery, Clark Terry, Cat made by this section also shall apply to any boyant personality and flair for showman- Anderson, Ernie Royal, Joe Newman, Fats taxable year beginning before January 1, ship, but after a few early successes, espe- Navarro, Charlie Mingus, Al Grey, Art Farm- 2002, for which the taxpayer— cially the riff tunes Flying Home, Down er, and, of course, the singers: Dinah Wash- (A) on a return filed before April 17, 2002, Home Jump, and Hey Bab-Ba-Rebop, the ington (who was discovered-and named-by limited the exclusion under section 107 of the group was too often content to repeat former Hamp while working in the powder room of Internal Revenue Code of 1986 as provided in trimuphs for its many admirers. Hampton Chicago’s Regal Theater), Joe Williams, such amendment, or has at times also appeared as singer, played Betty (Be Bop) Carter the great Aretha (B) filed a return after April 16, 2002. drums with enormous vitality, and per- Franklin, among others. (3) OTHER YEARS BEFORE 2002.—Except as formed with curious success asa pianist, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I provided in paragraph (2), notwithstanding using only two fingers in the manner of yield back the balance of my time, and any prior regulation, revenue ruling, or vibraphrone mallets. other guidance issued by the Internal Rev- Lionel Hampton, former Presidential ap- I urge passage of this resolution. enue Service, no person shall be subject to pointed Ambassador of Goodwill, the holder Mr. OTTER. Mr. Speaker, far be it the limitations added to section 107 of such of over 15 Honorary Doctor of Music Degrees, for me to add to the eloquence of the Code by this Act for any taxable year begin- awarded the highest honors from the Ken- gentleman from Michigan, but I would ning before January 1, 2002. nedy Center of the Performing Arts and, the just say that Lionel Hampton has been The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- National Commission On The Endowment for a groundbreaker throughout his career, ant to the rule, the gentleman from the Arts, was recently honored at the White throughout his life. He has been an House in August 1998 in celebration of his Minnesota (Mr. RAMSTAD) and the gen- 90th birthday. This musical legend has been internationally acclaimed giant of tleman from North Dakota (Mr. POM- the Co-Honorary Chairman of the Inter- music, and because he is an inter- EROY) each will control 20 minutes. national Agency for Minority Artist Affairs nationally acclaimed giant of music, The Chair recognizes the gentleman (IAMAA) since 1978. Not only a musician, he has an been internationally ac- from Minnesota (Mr. RAMSTAD). Lionel Hampton is a businessman and, has claimed giant of communication, be- Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I yield developed housing projects across this nation cause we find many times in music one myself such time as I may consume. and, is a leading philanthropist for commu- voice and we find one spirit, and that is Mr. Speaker, in one of the most obvi- nity-based initiatives. ous cases of judicial overreach in re- Mr. Hampton, reigning King of the Vibra- what Lionel Hampton has brought to the world. We are to celebrate his 94th cent memory, the Ninth Circuit Court phone for over a half a century, begain his of Appeals in San Francisco is poised musical career as a drummer. Born in Bir- birthday. mingham, Alabama in 1908, he spent most of Mr. Speaker, I would ask in closing to inflict a devastating tax increase on his childhood in Kenosha, Wisconsin, where that all Members support this resolu- America’s clergy. Unless Congress acts he first studied music under very strict Do- tion. quickly, the 81-year-old housing tax ex- minican nuns. His tools then were Louis Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance clusion for members of the clergy will Armstrong and a drummer named Jimmy be struck down by judicial overreach of my time. Bertrand, who tossed his sticks in the air as on the part of America’s most reversed The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. lights blinked from inside his bass drum (a and most activist circuit court. style Hamp still uses today in some of his PENCE). The question is on the motion The focus of this court’s attack is a shows). offered by the gentleman from Idaho long-standing clergy housing allow- In 1930, Lionel finally got to meet Louis (Mr. OTTER) that the House suspend the ance. Dating back to 1921 and recodi- Armstrong. Playing in a backup band for rules and concur in the Senate concur- ‘‘Satchmo’’ at a nightclub in L.A. Hamp so fied in 1954 in section 107 of the Tax rent resolution, S. Con. Res. 101. Code, this allowance prevents clergy impressed Louis that he invited him to a re- The question was taken; and (two- cording session. Armstrong spotted a set of from being taxed on the portion of vibes in the studio and asked Hamp if he thirds having voted in favor thereof) their church income that is used to knew how to play them. Never one to refuse the rules were suspended and the Sen- provide their housing. This allowance a challenge, Lionel (who knew keyboards ate concurrent resolution was con- is similar to other housing provisions well) picked up the mallets. The first tune curred in. in the Tax Code offered to workers who they cut was ‘‘Memories of You,’’ a new A motion to reconsider was laid on locate in a particular area for the con- number just written by Eubie Blake, and it the table. venience of their employers, and mili- became a hit for Louis. John Hammond, tary personnel who receive a tax exclu- great jazz impresario, heard the record and f began touting Lionel’s vibes work to Benny sion for their housing. CLERGY HOUSING ALLOWANCE Clergy members of every faith and Goodman. CLARIFICATION ACT OF 2002 In August, 1936, Hammon flew out to L.A. denomination rely on the housing al- and brough Goodman in to the Paradise Club Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I move lowance. Without it, America’s clergy to hear Lionel play. At that time, Benny had to suspend the rules and pass the bill face a devastating tax increase of $2.3 a trio within his big band featuring Teddy (H.R. 4156) to amend the Internal Rev- billion over the next 5 years. At a time Wilson on piano and Gene Krupa on drums. enue Code of 1986 to clarify that the when our places of worship are finan- ‘‘Next thing you know,’’ recalls Hamp, ‘‘I parsonage allowance exclusion is lim- cially strapped and struggling to serve was out there on stage jamming with these people in need, we cannot allow this great musicians. That’s one session I’ll never ited to the fair rental value of the forget’’ property, as amended. important tax provision to fall. To make a long story short, the Benny The Clerk read as follows: The case, now in the Ninth Circuit, Goodman Trio became a quartet and made H.R. 4156 Mr. Speaker, arose because of a dispute over a 1971 IRS ruling that limited the history-not only with the brilliant music Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- they produced, but because they were the resentatives of the United States of America in clergy allowance to the fair rental first racially-integrated group in the nation. Congress assembled, value of the parsonage. A taxpayer in The foursome recorded ‘‘Memories of You,’’ turn challenged this limit and won in SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. ‘‘Moonglow,’’ and ‘‘Dinah.’’ Hamp spent the tax court and the IRS appealed. But next four years with Goodman as the quartet This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Clergy Hous- ing Allowance Clarification Act of 2002’’. rather than simply considering the developed into the hottest jazz group in the issue presented in the case, which was world. SEC. 2. CLARIFICATION OF PARSONAGE ALLOW- In the early 1940’s, Lionel left Benny Good- ANCE EXCLUSION. whether the Internal Revenue Service man to form his own big band after the re- (a) IN GENERAL.—Section 107 of the Inter- had authority to limit the allowance, lease of a couple of wildly successfully RCA nal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by in- the Ninth Circuit hijacked the case and singles under his own name: ‘‘Sunny Side of serting before the period at the end of para- turned it into a challenge of the very the Street’’ (on which he sang as well as graph (2) ‘‘and to the extent such allowance constitutionality of the housing allow- playing vibes) and ‘‘Central Avenue Break- does not exceed the fair rental value of the ance. Neither party in the case even down’’ (on which he played piano with two home, including furnishings and appur- raised the constitutionality issue or re- fingers, using them like vibes mallets.) tenances such as a garage, plus the cost of His first big band included such sidemen as utilities’’. quested the court to consider that Dexter Gordon and Illinois Jacquet, and he (b) EFFECTIVE DATE.— issue, so the Ninth Circuit, in turn, busted the charts with his recording of ‘‘Fly- (1) IN GENERAL.—The amendment made by asked for a ‘‘friend of the court’’ brief ing Home’’ in 1942 and ‘‘Hamp’s Boogie this section shall apply to taxable years be- from a law professor who happened to Woogie’’ in 1943. Among the sidemen who got ginning after December 31, 2001. believe that it was unconstitutional. H1300 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 b 1500 Committee on Ways and Means, Lisa effect would be to increase taxes on Mr. Speaker, this is judicial activism Rydland and Bob Winters, for their ex- clergy by $2.3 billion over the next 5 at its worst. The legislation on the emplary work. I thank Siobhan Abell, years. Churches, which already operate floor today will stop the attack on the who helped arrange this bill to be expe- on the thinnest of margins, would be housing allowance by resolving the un- dited from the office of the majority unable to offset this tax increase, and derlying issue in the tax court case. leader, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. as a result, many could actually lose H.R. 4156, the bill before us today, ARMEY), who as well deserves our grati- the services of their clergy. Rural clarifies that the housing allowance is tude. churches are especially vulnerable. limited to the fair rental value of the Finally, I thank my own tax counsel, Although many of us believe in the home, which has been common practice Karen Hope, who has worked night and constitutionality of this provision, we for decades, for 81 years. day since this issue arose, and has real- cannot tell the court how to rule. But H.R. 4156, as introduced, included a ly done a yeo-person’s work on this im- by passing this legislation, we can re- section of congressional findings and portant legislation. solve the underlying issue in the case, statement of purpose, I might add. But Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of and thereby protect the housing exclu- the amendment before us, Mr. Speaker, my time. sion. H.R. 4156 codifies the prior rev- deletes that section in order to accom- Mr. POMEROY. Mr. Speaker, I yield enue ruling by expressly limiting the modate the tradition that the Com- myself such time as I may consume. housing exclusion to the fair market mittee on Ways and Means normally Mr. Speaker, I want to begin by mak- rental value of the home. has; that is, not to include such lan- ing it very clear that I strongly sup- The leaders of our churches face guage in tax legislation. port this legislation, the Clergy Hous- many challenges in ministering to However, the fact that it has been de- ing Allowance Clarification Act. I want their congregations. They must cul- leted does not, let me repeat that, does to commend my friend and colleague tivate faith in a world that too often not, reflect the lack of support within on the Committee on Ways and Means, seems not to have the time or inclina- the House or among the bill’s sponsors. the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. tion to accommodate spiritual develop- The gentleman from North Dakota RAMSTAD), for his leadership in identi- ment. They must help us grow healthy (Mr. POMEROY) has been tremendous in fying this very troubling issue and for families, avoiding the harms of alco- working with us on this legislation in a bringing it into legislative response, hol, drug abuse, domestic violence, and bipartisan way, bringing his consider- and for securing the cooperation of the other perils that can tear apart our able expertise to this important legis- majority leadership so we could con- families and communities. They must lation, and I thank the gentleman for sider this quickly as a stand-alone help us serve those who lack adequate that. Certainly there is strong support issue, and send the kind of response food, shelter, and other basic neces- among the bill’s sponsors on both sides that I know both parties in Congress sities. of the aisle for that language. will want to send. At a time when their role in all of We believe Congress clearly has the It really has been a wonderful piece this I think is appreciated more than constitutional authority to enact sec- of work by the gentleman from Min- ever, to have them have to divert pre- tion 107 of the Tax Code and the nesota (Mr. RAMSTAD), and I am really cious program dollars to pay a new tax amendments contained in H.R. 4156 very pleased to have been a part of it. bill is just completely unacceptable. that are before us today. In addition, From the earliest days of the Federal I had a very interesting roundtable we believe the Internal Revenue Serv- income tax, in the 1920s, the Tax Code meeting in North Dakota yesterday ice should provide guidance on the has allowed the clergy of all religious with a number of clergy terribly con- issue of fair rental valuation to avoid faiths to exclude their housing allow- cerned about the underlying threat to unnecessary disputes with taxpayers. I ance from taxable income. This provi- the housing allowance. North Dakota intend to work with my colleagues to sion has always been recognized not as has more churches per capita than any make sure the guidance is issued. an endorsement of any one religion, other State in the country, more than Finally, the amendment clarifies but as a reasonable accommodation of 2,000 churches, 78 percent of which are that the new fair rental value limita- all religions. located in communities of under 2,500 tion to section 107 applies prospec- The housing exclusion benefits clergy people. These are congregations just tively to the year 2002 and beyond. of all faiths, recognizing that a clergy struggling to get by. We have already Both H.R. 4156 and this amendment ex- person’s home is not just shelter, but lost 400 churches over the last several plicitly provide that for tax years be- an essential meeting place for members years, and projections are we could lose fore the effective date, the fair rental of the congregation, and also, in light another fifty in this decade. value limitation does not apply. This of the unique relationship between a I had one of the roundtable partici- language is intended to end the current pastor or a clergy member and the con- pants talk about how, when their litigation and fully resolve the matter. gregation, the distinct housing compo- daughter was born, the trustee who Mr. Speaker, again, I appreciate the nent of it is a unique feature of that re- happened to be the city accountant strong bipartisan support this legisla- lationship. said they should go down and apply for tion has received from our colleagues, Under a longstanding IRS revenue food stamps, because they were now el- with 37 cosponsors. My fellow Com- ruling, the housing exclusion is limited igible, but that was all that could be mittee on Ways and Means member and to the fair market rental value of the paid. One other minister talked about friend, the distinguished gentleman home. As the gentleman from Min- when the pledges did not come in on from North Dakota (Mr. POMEROY), the nesota (Mr. RAMSTAD) outlined, in a re- schedule, they were simply not given chief sponsor on the other side of the cent court case a taxpayer successfully their full dimension of meager salary. aisle, has been tremendous on working challenged the IRS’ authority to set And to think about laying upon these on this legislation. such a limit. congregations and these faithful serv- Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to This is a case of bad facts making ants of those congregations, the pas- vote for this bipartisan legislation to bad law. When the IRS appealed that tors, this new tax bill is really com- protect America’s clergy from an un- decision, the Ninth Circuit decided not pletely unacceptable. warranted judicial attack and to pre- to limit its review to the narrow ques- One of the pastors participating gave serve the important housing allowance. tion of whether the IRS exceeded its me the tax return that he was about to Mr. Speaker, I also want to thank authority, but instead chose to con- put in the mail yesterday. It reflects the gentleman from California (Chair- sider whether the exclusion violates the combined income of him and his man THOMAS) and the majority leader, the constitutional doctrine of separa- wife, both pastors serving a church in the gentleman from Texas (Mr. tion of church and State, an issue Fargo, North Dakota. Although mak- ARMEY), for helping expedite this legis- raised by neither party nor presented ing a very modest income, the tax hit, lation. in the litigation before the court. if they lost the housing exclusion, I thank Jim Clark, chief counsel on If the housing exclusion is struck would be an additional $3,958. our Committee on Ways and Means, for down, as we can only assume the Ninth When he explained that to the chair- his work, as well as counsel on the Circuit appears to be poised to do, the man of the board of trustees as he April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1301 came out of the church to go to the I say that our courts must be re- b 1515 meeting, the response by the chairman strained from undermining American Mr. POMEROY. Mr. Speaker, I yield was, well, there goes the playground values by making law. Americans are myself such time as I may consume. equipment. In other words, this was a the most generous of people. However, In conclusion, I would just observe congregation prepared to hold harmless I doubt they will want to increase their that while this body considers many the tax burden to the clergy, but they charitable donations simply because of very complex issues, the issue before us would literally be forced to divert dol- a bad decision of a court in California. is an easy one. It is an extraordinarily lars from constructing a Sunday school In passing this bill, we are merely important issue but an easy one. Bipar- playground to send it to the IRS. providing a legislative capstone to an tisan, no-brainer. We want to continue This is not a result anybody wants. issue that everyone else in America, existing tax treatment of the housing Therefore, I believe that this legisla- except for the judges in the Ninth Cir- allowance allowed the clergy of this tion is so completely important. I cuit, presume to be current law. country, and in that regard, I urge all again commend the gentleman from I look forward to this bill being of my colleagues to vote for the legis- Minnesota (Mr. RAMSTAD) for his lead- signed into law very quickly to take lation that the gentleman from Min- ership. the case away from these nutty judges nesota (Mr. RAMSTAD) has so capably Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of and settle the issue for our hard-work- brought before us. my time. ing clergy. Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I yield Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance 3 minutes to my good friend, the gen- Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I re- of my time. serve the balance of my time. Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, may I tleman from Texas (Mr. SAM JOHNSON), inquire as to how much time remains? a distinguished member of the Com- Mr. POMEROY. Mr. Speaker, I yield The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. mittee on Ways and Means and an im- such time as he may consume to the PENCE). The gentleman from Minnesota portant cosponsor of the bill. gentleman from Illinois (Mr. DAVIS). (Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas asked Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, (Mr. RAMSTAD) has 11 minutes remain- and was given permission to revise and first of all, I want to thank the gen- ing. Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I yield extend his remarks.) tleman from North Dakota (Mr. POM- Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. EROY) for yielding me time. I also want myself such time as I may consume. Speaker, I am glad to be an original co- to commend the Committee on Ways I first want to thank again my dis- sponsor of the Clergy Housing Allow- and Means for bringing this legislation tinguished colleague and friend the ance Clarification Act, and I totally to us. I commend the gentleman from gentleman from North Dakota (Mr. POMEROY) for his excellent work on agree with what the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. RAMSTAD) for the lead- this legislation and strong bipartisan North Dakota (Mr. POMEROY) just ership that he has provided. support. I want to thank the gen- elaborated on. I am sorry that the Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. tleman from Texas (Mr. SAM JOHNSON) Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has 4156, the Clergy Housing Allowance and the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. made our actions today necessary. Clarification Act of 2002. Regarding the DAVIS) for their supportive statements Their motives are unreasonable, uncon- U.S. Tax Court ruling that occurred in here today and their cosponsorship, as scionable, and unnerving, at best. May of 2000 in the Warren versus Com- well as the 35 other cosponsors. We must act quickly on this bill to missioner case about a well-established I certainly want to again thank the preserve the parsonage allowance that Internal Revenue Service decision to gentleman from California (Mr. THOM- members of the clergy receive as part limit the amount of income that a AS) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. of their compensation. For thousands member of the clergy could exclude ARMEY), the majority leader, for help- of years, churches, temples, mosques, from taxable income for a housing al- ing us expedite this legislation to get it and synagogues have provided housing lowance, the IRS appealed this decision to the floor in such rapid fashion. I also to members of their clergy. It makes to the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court con- want to thank the staff of the gen- complete sense that these benefits are cerning their authority to limit the tax tleman from California (Mr. THOMAS) not taxed. allowance for fair market rental value of our Committee on Ways and Means, Since 1921, the parsonage allowance of a home, and to allow the court to re- as well as the gentleman from Texas has been considered exempt from the view the constitutionality of the hous- (Mr. ARMEY’s) staff for working with United States income tax system. The ing allowance tax-exemption for mem- my chief tax counsel, Karin Hope, on problem is that the Ninth Circuit bers of the clergy. Court of Appeals has taken it upon this important legislation. I believe that members of the clergy itself to challenge the very constitu- Mr. Speaker, this legislative effort should continue this long-standing tionality of the clergy housing being on behalf of our Nation’s clergy is a practice since 1921 to exclude from tax-exempt. great example of Congress working in a Rather than simply decide the facts taxes a portion of their church income bipartisan, common sense way for a in a case that only had to do with how that is attributable to housing. Many noble purpose. That purpose is to pre- much of a minister’s salary could be clergy from every denomination rely serve the clergy housing allowance, to considered exempt, the court has gone on this tax benefit. If this housing al- stop a $2.3 billion tax increase on our way out of its way to raise this ques- lowance is not permitted, our clergy Nation’s clergy. Hundreds of thousands tion. The best I can say about this men and women could face a harsh tax of clergy from every faith and every de- issue is that at least it was not the IRS increase of $2.3 billion over the next 5 nomination urge my colleagues support this time that decided to take this years. for this bipartisan legislation. strange action. I encourage all of my colleagues to This legislation, Mr. Speaker, is im- If Congress does not act, clergy in support H.R. 4156. This legislation portant to virtually every religious this country would be faced with a tax would codify the original IRS ruling. congregation in America, to every increase, as the gentleman from North This legislation would help thousands church, every temple, every synagogue, Dakota (Mr. POMEROY) said, of roughly of clergy men and women throughout and every mosque, and I urge a strong $2.3 billion in the next few years. the Nation. bipartisan vote for this important leg- Reverend Dr. Frederick Schmidt of As one who spends a great deal of my islation to preserve the clergy housing SMU’s Perkins School of Theology, individual time near, close by, and in allowance. who lives in my district, said it best interaction with members of the cler- Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance when he wrote me a letter stating that gy, I can tell the Members that there is of my time. not protecting the tax exemption ‘‘will no legislation that they are more con- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The drastically alter the financial well- cerned about than this issue. I would question is on the motion offered by being of many clergy, and present a fis- encourage all of my colleagues to sup- the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. cal hurdle to religious communities port it. RAMSTAD) that the House suspend the that are ill-prepared to address that Once again, I commend the Com- rules and pass the bill, H.R. 4156, as change.’’ He calls it unconscionable mittee on Ways and Means for bringing amended. and unnerving, as well. this to us. The question was taken. H1302 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the Chapter 12, a specialized form of bank- ate did not accept the proffer, only a opinion of the Chair, two-thirds of ruptcy relief for small family farmers mere handful of issues remain to be re- those present have voted in the affirm- for a period of eight months retro- solved. ative. active to October 1, 2001. In fact, I have scheduled a meeting of Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, on that Chapter 12 was enacted on a tem- the bankruptcy conferees one week I demand the yeas and nays. porary basis in 1986 and has been subse- from today for the purpose of resolving The yeas and nays were ordered. quently extended on several occasions these remaining issues. Accordingly, I The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- over the years. Without question, the expect to complete the bankruptcy ant to clause 8 of rule XX and the family farmer plays a critical role in conference well before the extension of Chair’s prior announcement, further our Nation’s health and economic well- Chapter 12, effectuated by this bill, ex- proceedings on this motion will be being. Unfortunately, bad weather, ris- pires. postponed. ing energy costs, volatile marketplace H.R. 4167 is good for family farmers f conditions, competition from large because it immediately restores Chap- agri-businesses and economic forces ex- ter 12 and maintains the status quo for GENERAL LEAVE perienced by any small business affect an appropriate period of time. This bill Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I ask the financial stability of some family serves to support our efforts in resolv- unanimous consent that all Members farmers. ing the pending bankruptcy conference may have 5 legislative days within Although Chapter 12 addresses the which when completed and enacted will which to revise and extend their re- special needs of family farmers, it is provide even more protection for fam- marks and include extraneous mate- utilized infrequently. While total bank- ily farmers. rials on H.R. 4156. ruptcy filings in each of the past 6 Accordingly, I urge my colleagues to The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there years surpassed more than a million support H.R. 4167. objection to the request of the gen- cases, the number of Chapter 12 cases Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of tleman from Minnesota? has exceeded 1,000 on only one occa- my time. There was no objection. sion, and that was back in 1996. In the Mr. ROSS. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- self such time as I may consume. f absence of Chapter 12, family farmers may apply for relief under the bank- This bill today is important to my FAMILY FARMER BANKRUPTCY ruptcy code’s other alternative, al- congressional district back home in EXTENSION ACT though these generally do not work rural Arkansas, and quite frankly, it is Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- quite as well for farmers as Chapter 12. important to farm families all across er, I move to suspend the rules and As my colleagues know, I have con- America. Family farmers injured by pass the bill (H.R. 4167) to extend for 8 sistently supported prior efforts to ex- low commodity prices are being held additional months the period for which tend Chapter 12 in this Congress. In ad- hostage by the lack of certainty of chapter 12 of title 11 of the United dition, I have supported a provision in- whether or not Chapter 12 is going to States Code is reenacted. cluded in both the House and Senate be there for them. The Clerk read as follows: versions of H.R. 333, the Bankruptcy Just last week, the House and Senate Abuse Prevention and Consumer Pro- both voted to make Chapter 12 perma- H.R. 4167 tection Act, that would make Chapter nent through bankruptcy reform legis- Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- 12 a permanent component of the bank- lation. Yet that legislation remains in resentatives of the United States of America in conference committee, and it is an Congress assembled, ruptcy code. H.R. 333 is currently in conference. issue that has been going on since 1997, SECTION 1. AMENDMENTS. As the chairman of the bankruptcy and I do not know that it is going to be Section 149 of title I of division C of Public resolved anytime soon. Law 105–277, as amended by Public Laws 106– conference, I am pleased to report that 5, 106–70, 107–8, and 107–17, is amended— the anticipated bankruptcy conference I support bankruptcy reform. As a (1) by striking ‘‘October 1, 2001’’ each place report will likely include a series of member of the House Committee on Fi- it appears and inserting ‘‘June 1, 2002’’; and other provisions that will give family nancial Services, I have fought hard to (2) in subsection (a)— farmers even more enhanced protec- see that bill to the floor. I fought hard (A) by striking ‘‘May 31, 2001’’ and insert- tions under Chapter 12. These farmer- to see it passed on the floor of the ing ‘‘September 30, 2001’’; and friendly provisions were included in the United States House of Representa- (B) by striking ‘‘June 1, 2001’’ and inserting bankruptcy conference as part of com- tives, and I am as frustrated as anyone ‘‘October 1, 2001’’. plex and an extensively negotiable ef- else that we have been trying to get SEC. 2. EFFECTIVE DATE. fort. bankruptcy reform since 1997, and yet The amendments made by section 1 shall it remains in the conference committee take effect on October 1, 2001. Specifically, the other provisions would, first, increase the debt eligi- with an awful lot of amendments at- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- bility limit and require it to be auto- tached to it that have nothing in the ant to the rule, the gentleman from matically adjusted for inflation so that world to do with bankruptcy reform, Wisconsin (Mr. SENSENBRENNER) and more family farmers would qualify for and I am perhaps a little less opti- the gentleman from Arkansas (Mr. relief under Chapter 12. mistic than the Chairman that we may ROSS) each will control 20 minutes. Second, lower the percentage of in- see bankruptcy reform come our way The Chair recognizes the gentleman come that must be derived from farm- soon. from Wisconsin (Mr. SENSENBRENNER). ing operations which would also ensure I believe the gentleman from Wis- GENERAL LEAVE that more farmers would be eligible for consin raises some very good points Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- Chapter 12 than would be under current about what we need to do for our farm er, I ask unanimous consent that all law. families as it relates to Chapter 12 Members may have 5 legislative days Third, give farmers more protection bankruptcy reform, and I would, in within which to revise and extend their with respect to how they may treat the fact, offer to sign on as a Democratic remarks and include extraneous mate- claims of creditors. sponsor with him to write a bill that rial on H.R. 4167, the bill under consid- Fourth, for the first time in the his- addresses the aspects that are in the eration. tory of Chapter 12, allow certain family overall bankruptcy reform legislation The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there fishermen to be eligible for this form of that is stuck in the conference com- objection to the request of the gen- bankruptcy relief. mittee. Let us take that, let us extract tleman from Wisconsin? Since August of last year, the House those ideas that will help our farm There was no objection. and Senate staff have been actively families out of that bill that has been Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- working to resolve the differences be- around since 1997 in one form, fashion er, I yield myself such time as I may tween the respective bills. In February or the other, and let us really try to consume. of this year, House conferees sent the file a bill tomorrow that will really Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. Senate a proposed offer resolving all help, that will really help our farm 4167. This bill reenacts and extends outstanding issues. Although the Sen- families in an important way. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1303 I think it is also important to note now and that is why this temporary fix need this legislation to be made perma- that although we have not had a lot of is so very, very important. nent, the point we made about a week farm families file Chapter 12 bank- I urge my colleagues not to delay any ago. ruptcy, I think the ability to do that further, pass the Chapter 12 bank- When Chapter 12 was enacted in 1986, has helped a lot of our farm families be ruptcy extension. Please let us pass it there were some questions whether it able to negotiate rather than simply today for our farm families, so that would work properly, so Congress made file for bankruptcy. I do not think they can do what they do best, and it temporary. The idea behind Chapter there is any dispute that Chapter 12 that is, feed America and feed much of 12 is very straightforward. Other forms has worked well in saving our farm the world. of bankruptcy relief are either too families by protecting the needs of Mr. Speaker, I yield as much time as costly or do not fit the particular cir- both our financially struggling farm he may consume to the gentleman cumstances of a family farm. If one is families as well as protecting their from Texas (Mr. SANDLIN), whose dis- out in the small hamlets and villages, creditors. trict joins mine in Texarkana. they will make that very clear. Last week I offered a motion to in- Our farmers cannot afford to con- b 1530 tinue to be left hanging out in the wind struct the conferees on the farm bill; and held hostage by bankruptcy legis- Mr. SANDLIN. Mr. Speaker, the well- and my motion to instruct, which lation that is stuck in conference com- being of family farms in America is passed overwhelmingly, asked the con- mittee. I am not opposing the bank- critical to our economy and to the ferees on the farmer bill to accept the ruptcy reform bill. I support it. I sup- American way of life. Family farmers language in the Senate bill that would ported it in the House Committee on deserve certainty in pricing. They de- make Chapter 12 of the bankruptcy Financial Services. I supported it on serve certainty in legal protections. code permanent. I do not think there is the floor of the United States House of This legislation and bankruptcy reform any controversy whatsoever that Chap- Representatives. I hope it is enacted is a part of that critical protection for ter 12 works well and that it protects and I hope it is enacted soon. American families and American farm- our family farmers who are in distress, I also hope a new farm bill is enacted ers. or that it properly balances the legiti- soon. I am on the House Committee on Last year both the House and the mate needs of financially troubled Agriculture. We wrote and passed that Senate voted to make Chapter 12 per- farmers and their creditors, and that it bill last October. It went to the Senate. manent, and yet here we sit. No deci- preserves the family farm, which is our They put some amendments on it that sion, no reform, no protection; and un- whole intent, our whole point. have really caused a lot of problems for certainty reigns supreme. We all recog- It is our hope that the farm bill con- farm families in my district. That, too, nize that it is important to protect ferees will include Chapter 12 bank- is now in conference committee. It both the family farmer and the cred- ruptcy protection in the farm bill and seems like these conference commit- itor who provides needed and necessary that we will finally be able to offer this tees are really causing a lot of havoc capital. Neither the farmer nor the to our family farmers. Chapter 12 bank- for our farm families, everything from creditors can afford endless uncer- ruptcy protection is also included in bankruptcy reform to a new farm bill. tainty. the bankruptcy bill which is currently Our farm families, they need help and Mr. Speaker, it is critical to help in conference. Again, it is my hope we they need it now. I think it is impor- farmers now. We need a legitimate are able to pass this legislation and tant to note that farm families are the farm bill that is truly pro-agriculture. that it does not remain tied up in con- backbone of our rural communities, of Additionally, we need legitimate pro- ference. Our farmers need this option; rural America, and when we lose farm tections for farmers as provided by this and I hope that we see through all of families, it has a devastating impact bill. Family farmers face uncertainty this, that we can simplify, cut to the on the economy of rural America. Un- every day; it is nothing new. Weather, chase and equip the family farms with fortunately, our farmers are under in- foreign markets, increasing competi- what they need to face the terrible sit- creasing financial pressure each year tion from big corporate farmers, the uation that was not brought on to make ends meet due to low crop list goes on and on. They should not through any fault of their own. prices, added debt simply to get their face another uncertainty. We can pre- Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- crops planted and increasing competi- vent it. We can do something about it. er, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman tion from imports from other coun- We can pass this bill. We can tell from Michigan (Mr. SMITH). tries. American farmers and their families Mr. SMITH of Michigan. Mr. Speak- We have seen that with commodities, that their well-being is important to er, this legislation is very important to with Canadian soft wood lumber. We us. farmers. I have been working on it for have even seen it with the dumping of Now this bill is not the be-all and the the last 6 years, trying to make Chap- the so-called catfish that are being end-all. It is a temporary fix; but one ter 12 permanent so farmers are not raised in cages in polluted rivers in that is critical, nevertheless. Haul this put in the predicament of kind of an Vietnam. safety net up for our farmers and their on-and-off situation, and also the bank- When Chapter 12 of the bankruptcy children. Extend Chapter 12 for 8 ruptcy courts holding pending some of code was first enacted, there was legiti- months starting on October 1 and end- those farm applications. I am glad that mate concern over whether it would ing on May 31. Let us pass this bill and we are bringing it up to date and ex- work. We now know that it has worked, support our family farmers in America. tending the Chapter 12 provisions until and there is no reason why our farmers Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman June 1, 2002. should have to wait to know that this from Wisconsin (Mr. SENSENBRENNER) Chapter 12 was originally enacted in safety net is there for them. Yet it has and the gentleman from Arkansas (Mr. 1986. We had a lot of farm bank- not been there for them since October ROSS) for calling attention to this issue ruptcies. There was a problem. The 1 of last year. and presenting it to us today. Our other chapters were putting farmers at We must move forward in helping our farmers deserve our attention and our a disadvantage, making them sell their farm families. This measure extends respect. equipment which made it impossible Chapter 12 for 8 months, retroactively Mr. ROSS. Mr. Speaker, I yield such for them to reorganize and start devel- starting on October 1 and ending on time as he may consume to the gen- oping the kind of farm operation that May 31. While this is only a temporary tleman from Illinois (Mr. PHELPS). could pay back some of those loans. fix, while the conference committee Mr. PHELPS. Mr. Speaker, I rise to I appreciate that this is important continues to do what they have done support H.R. 4167, which extends Chap- legislation. It is an important piece of since the mid to late 1990s and, that is, ter 12 bankruptcy protection. However, bankruptcy law. I am hopeful that we try to work out a bankruptcy reform I have concerns that this legislation can make Chapter 12 permanent as the bill that can pass both the House and will only temporarily extend Chapter chairman’s bankruptcy bill provides Senate and gain the President’s signa- 12 bankruptcy protection, by being ret- for. There are more than 12,000 farmers ture, it is desperately needed for our roactive to October 12 and extending that have filed for Chapter 12 bank- farmers, for rural America. It is needed through the end of May. Our farmers ruptcy since it went into effect in 1986, H1304 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 and they have been able to restructure not know what to do because they are They never came back with their own their debts without having to liquidate waiting on Chapter 12 bankruptcy pro- offer; and I have called a meeting of property. The continued low com- tection; they are waiting on a new the bankruptcy conference for Tues- modity prices, the financial stresses farm bill, both of which are tied up in day, April 23, 2002. I would like to ask facing farmers further exacerbate the conference committees. the three Democratic speakers on be- importance of extending Chapter 12. Our farm families do not need more half of Chapter 12 if they would do me Mr. Speaker, I have introduced sev- conference committees. They need a favor, and that is to write the Demo- eral bills. I would have preferred that Chapter 12 bankruptcy reform, and cratic Senate conferees and ask them we were going ahead with my bill, but they need it permanent and they need to reach an agreement on the bank- I appreciate the chairman helping to it today. They need a new farm bill ruptcy bill. make sure that this law is current for today. When that bill got gutted with If we reach that agreement, I can as- those farmers desperately needing amendments in the Senate and went to sure the gentlemen that we can bring bankruptcy protection. conference committee, in my district that bill to the floor the end of this Why is Chapter 12 so important to farm- we began to see three-, four-, and five- month or the first part of next month ers—especially small, family farmers? Chapter generation farm families selling out. and beat the farm bill conference to 12 contains special provisions that allows The price of equipment at those auc- the President’s desk. farmers to use bankruptcy laws in the manner tions dropped 35 percent overnight I regret even having to talk about that is available to others seeking bankruptcy. after those amendments were attached this because both Houses of Congress Under the bankruptcy laws, debtors must to the farm bill in the Senate and it did pass bankruptcy reform legislation only have a certain level of debt to reorganize was sent to the conference committee. in the last Congress that included a rather than liquidate. Many farmers have too The time for action on bankruptcy permanent extension of Chapter 12, and many assets to do this, primarily because of reform, the time for action on a new guess what happened? The former the value of their farm equipment—their trac- farm bill for our struggling farm fami- President, Mr. Clinton, pocket vetoed tors, plows, combines, and tools. Obviously, lies is now. I think it is important to the bill. If he had not done so, we this equipment is essential to the farm oper- note that this bill sunsets 45 days from would not be talking about this issue ation. If this equipment were used to pay off today. This is a temporary fix, and our at all. debts, how would the farmer then be able to farm families need it; but they need a Mr. ROSS. Mr. Speaker, will the gen- tleman yield? operate the farm and reconstruct the busi- long-term solution so they can con- Mr. SENSENBRENNER. I yield to ness? Chapter 12 recognizes this fact of farm tinue to do what they do best, genera- tion after generation after generation, the gentleman from Arkansas. life and lets these farmers reorganize their Mr. ROSS. Mr. Speaker, I am in the debts rather than liquidate their property. and that is simply feed America and feed the world. I am proud today to House of Representatives. I am proud Extending this provision is especially critical to be a conservative, small-town-value today. There are many farmers who have filed stand in support of our farm families. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance kind of Democrat that is standing be- for bankruptcy since the last Chapter 12 ex- of my time. fore the gentleman today, and I am ap- tension expired last fall. The courts are waiting Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- palled that for some reason a Member for Congress to act and change the law to er, I yield myself such time as I may of the House has some control over allow these farmers to re-file under Chapter consume. what happens in a Senate conference 12. These farmers need the options available Mr. Speaker, I have been listening committee. I have no more control under Chapter 12 now. with great interest to the three speak- over the Democrats in the Senate than I have introduced legislation that would ers on behalf of my bill on the Demo- the gentleman from Wisconsin does. make Chapter 12 protection permanent, and cratic side of the aisle, and each of Mr. Speaker, I think the American working with the Gentle Lady from Wisconsin, them complained about how long the people are sick and tired of the par- TAMMY BALDWIN, I have offered many bills ex- bankruptcy conference has taken. Be- tisan bickering that goes on in the Na- tending these protections, most recently H.R. lieve me, as the chairman of that con- tion’s Capitol. It should not be what 2914. ference, I am even more frustrated makes the Republicans or Democrats Like many other Members, I am hoping that than they are because I have to deal look good or bad; it ought to be about we can free the logjam that is holding up per- with attempting to negotiate out very doing what is right and providing a manent Chapter 12 protections for farmers. I complex issues. strong, effective voice for the people understand that the House and Senate con- Mr. Speaker, let me tell the gen- who sent us here to represent them. ferees will be meeting soon on H.R. 3333, the tleman that we have made Chapter 12 Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- bankruptcy reform bill. Let’s hope that an permanent in that bankruptcy con- er, absolutely. I sent an offer over to agreement can be reached soon so that we ference, and we have made it better for the Senate 2 months ago to resolve all do not have to come to the floor of the House farmers so farmers will get a better of the issues in the bankruptcy con- to extend once again a provision that should deal by having the bankruptcy con- ference. They rejected it, but they be a permanent fixture in law. ference passed and signed into law, not never came back with a counter- I would like to express my support for the only in Chapter 12, but also on the en- proposal of their own. So whatever we Gentleman for Wisconsin, Mr. SENSEN- tire economic effect of bankruptcies on send over there, they appear not to BRENNER, the Chairman of the Judiciary Com- our economy. like; but they do not have a counter- mittee, not only for this bill, but also for his ef- In the last several years, bankruptcy proposal. forts to get the other body moving on a bank- courts have written off $44 billion of One of the things I think we are sup- ruptcy reform compromise that will make debt every year, and that amounts to posed to do in reconciling bills is to go Chapter 12 permanent. $400 of additional cost of goods and back and forth until something is Mr. Speaker, Chapter 12 is critically impor- services, in effect, a $400 hidden tax on reached in the middle. I want to bring tant if we are to help family farmers maintain people all throughout this country who this matter to a head. I want to get the farms that, for many, have been in their fami- pay their bills as agreed. bankruptcy bill off the national table. lies for generations. I urge my colleagues to I think practically every farm fam- I want to get Chapter 12 made better support this very important piece of legislation. ily, let alone every other family in this and made permanent, and I want to do Mr. ROSS. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- country, would rather have that $400 in it by getting H.R. 333 passed through self such time as I may consume. their pocket rather than having to pay both Houses and signed by the Presi- Mr. Speaker, I would simply close in more for goods and services because dent of the United States. All I am support of the bill by saying that this debts have been written off. One of the doing is enlisting the gentleman’s help weekend I was driving across my con- purposes of the bankruptcy bill that we and the help of the two other speakers gressional district, as I do every week- have been dealing with has been to to write a letter to those folks over end, some 75,000 miles we traveled drive that $44 billion down so that the there and tell them to be constructive, across those 29 counties over the past hidden tax on every American family because they have not been that con- 16 months. There is a lot of row crop would not be as great as $400 a year. structive to date. land not planted because our farm fam- Last February I sent an offer to the Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Speaker, this Member ilies do not know what to do. They do Senate conferees. They rejected it. rises today to express his support for H.R. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1305 4167, which retroactively extends Chapter 12 the farm financial crisis of the 1980’s. It has ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER bankruptcy for family farms and ranches to subsequently been extended on several occa- PRO TEMPORE June 1, 2002. Chapter 12 bankruptcy expired sions. H.R. 333, the Bankruptcy Abuse Pre- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- on October 1, 2001. This legislation is very im- vention and Consumer Protection Act, would ant to clause 8 of rule XX, the Chair portant to the nation’s agriculture sector. make Chapter 12 permanent. will now put the question on motions This Member would express his apprecia- But isn’t there more we can do? Of course to suspend the rules on which further tion to the distinguished gentleman from Wis- farmers want a fail-safe net of bankruptcy in proceedings were postponed earlier consin (Mr. SENSENBRENNER), the Chairman of case they go into distress, but more than that, today. the House Judiciary Committee, for intro- they want expanded markets, and an end to Votes will be taken in the following ducing H.R. 4167. In addition, this Member the federal death tax. We stand here today order: would like to express his appreciation to the debating the merits of a bill that will aid failing H.R. 1374, by the yeas and nays; distinguished gentleman from Michigan (Mr. farms, but we can’t stop here—we must keep H.R. 4156, by the yeas and nays; and SMITH) for his efforts in getting this measure to fighting to help American farms succeed. The H.R. 4167, by the yeas and nays. the House Floor for consideration. best farmers in the world, American farmers, The Chair will reduce to 5 minutes This extension of Chapter 12 bankruptcy is want a fair chance to compete with other farm- the time for any electronic vote after supported by this Member as it allows family ers around the world and they want a legiti- the first such vote in this series. farmers to reorganize their debts as compared mate chance to make a profit. I will continue to liquidating their assets. The use of the to support Trade Promotion Authority and f Chapter 12 bankruptcy provision has been an death tax repeal to help insure that American PHILIP E. RUPPE POST OFFICE important and necessary option for family farmers have less need for the bankruptcy BUILDING farmers throughout the nation. It has allowed protections we vote to advance here today. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The family farmers to reorganize their assets in a Mr. Speaker, I support H.R. 4167 for dis- pending business is the question of sus- manner which balances the interests of credi- tressed farmers, but I urge my colleagues to pending the rules and passing the bill, tors and the future success of the involved grant the president Trade Promotion Authority H.R. 1374. farmer. so that markets for our agricultural goods will The Clerk read the title of the bill. If Chapter 12 bankruptcy provisions are not be opened from which our farmers will profit. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The extended for family farmers, it will be another I also ask that my colleagues permanently question is on the motion offered by very painful blow to an agricultural sector al- abolish the federal death tax, which is a spec- the gentlewoman from Virginia (Mrs. ready reeling from low commodity prices. Not ter that hangs over every family farmer who JO ANN DAVIS) that the House suspend only will many family farmers have no viable looks forward to passing his farm on to the the rules and pass the bill, H.R. 1374, on option other than to end their operations, but next generation. Action on these pieces of leg- which the yeas and nays are ordered. it will also cause land values to likely plunge. islation sends a message that the United The vote was taken by electronic de- Such a decrease in value of farmland will neg- States Congress recognizes the importance of vice, and there were—yeas 408, nays 0, atively affect the ability of family farmers to the hard work, pride and competitive nature of not voting 26, as follows: earn a living. In addition, the resulting de- the American agriculturalist. crease in farmland value will impact the man- Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- [Roll No. 93] ner in which banks conduct their agricultural er, I yield back the balance of my time. YEAS—408 lending activities. Furthermore, this Member The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Abercrombie Capito Ehlers has received many contacts from his constitu- PENCE). The question is on the motion Ackerman Capps Ehrlich Aderholt Capuano Emerson ents supporting extension of Chapter 12 bank- offered by the gentleman from Wis- Akin Cardin Engel ruptcy because of the situation now being consin (Mr. SENSENBRENNER) that the Allen Carson (IN) English faced by our nation’s farm families—it is clear House suspend the rules and pass the Andrews Carson (OK) Eshoo that the agricultural sector is hurting. Armey Castle Etheridge bill, H.R. 4167. Baca Chabot Evans I closing, this Member urges his colleagues The question was taken. Bachus Chambliss Everett to support H.R. 4167. The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the Baird Clay Farr Mr. GEKAS. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to opinion of the Chair, two-thirds of Baker Clayton Fattah lend my strong support for H.R. 4167 and for Baldacci Clyburn Ferguson those present have voted in the affirm- Baldwin Coble Flake farmers in financial distress. Extension of ative. Ballenger Collins Fletcher Chapter 12 is necessary to insure that these Mr. SENSENBRENNER. Mr. Speak- Barcia Combest Foley financially distressed farmers are granted the Barr Conyers Forbes er, on that I demand the yeas and nays. Barrett Cooksey Ford protection they need. The yeas and nays were ordered. Bartlett Costello Fossella I would doubt that there is any one of us The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Barton Cox Frank who does not want to aid a farmer in distress. ant to clause 8 of rule XX and the Bass Coyne Frelinghuysen Mr. Speaker, I am sure that H.R. 4167 will be Becerra Cramer Frost Chair’s prior announcement, further Bentsen Crane Gallegly approved today because the vast majority of proceedings on this motion will be Bereuter Crenshaw Ganske this body recognizes the difficulty and risk in- postponed. Berkley Crowley Gekas herent in farming and want to give farmers a Berry Cubin Gephardt fail-safe net of bankruptcy in case they be- Biggert Culberson Gibbons f Bilirakis Cummings Gillmor come distressed. I have consistently sup- Bishop Cunningham Gilman ported efforts to extend Chapter 12. Since the RECESS Blumenauer Davis (CA) Gonzalez bankruptcy reform movement started five Blunt Davis (FL) Goode The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Boehlert Davis (IL) Goodlatte years ago, there was not one moment in ant to clause 12 of rule I, the Chair de- Boehner Davis, Jo Ann Gordon which we did not consider making Chapter 12 clares the House in recess until ap- Bonilla Davis, Tom Goss permanent. Bonior Deal Graham Chapter 12 of the Bankruptcy code is a spe- proximately 6:30 p.m. today. Bono DeFazio Granger Boozman DeGette Graves cialized form of bankruptcy relief available to Accordingly (at 3 o’clock and 45 min- utes p.m.), the House stood in recess Borski Delahunt Green (TX) family farmers. The special attributes of Chap- Boswell DeLauro Green (WI) ter 12 makes it better suited to meet the par- until approximately 6:30 p.m. Boucher DeLay Greenwood ticularized needs of family farmers in financial Boyd DeMint Grucci f Brady (PA) Deutsch Gutknecht distress than other forms of bankruptcy relief, Brady (TX) Diaz-Balart Hall (OH) such as Chapter 11 (business reorganization) Brown (FL) Dicks Hall (TX) b 1830 or Chapter 13 (individual reorganization). Brown (OH) Dingell Harman Brown (SC) Doggett Hart Chapter 12 allows family farmers to keep es- AFTER RECESS Bryant Dooley Hastings (WA) sential farm assets and reorganize their debts. Burr Doolittle Hayes Chapter 12 was enacted on a temporary The recess having expired, the House Buyer Doyle Hayworth seven-year basis as part of the Bankruptcy was called to order by the Speaker pro Callahan Dreier Hefley Calvert Duncan Herger Judges, United States Trustees, and Family tempore (Mr. ISAKSON) at 6 o’clock and Camp Dunn Hill Farmer Bankruptcy Act of 1986 in response to 30 minutes p.m. Cantor Edwards Hinchey H1306 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 Hinojosa McKinney Sawyer b 1857 Emerson Larsen (WA) Reyes Hobson McNulty Saxton Engel Larson (CT) Reynolds Hoeffel Meehan Schaffer Ms. SLAUGHTER, Mr. HOEKSTRA English Latham Rivers Hoekstra Meek (FL) Schakowsky and Mr. SHAW changed their vote from Eshoo LaTourette Rodriguez Holden Meeks (NY) Schiff ‘‘nay’’ to ‘‘yea.’’ Etheridge Leach Roemer Holt Menendez Schrock Evans Lee Rogers (KY) Honda Mica Scott So (two-thirds having voted in favor Everett Lewis (CA) Rogers (MI) Hooley Millender- Sensenbrenner thereof) the rules were suspended and Farr Lewis (GA) Rohrabacher Horn McDonald Sessions the bill was passed. Fattah Lewis (KY) Ros-Lehtinen Shadegg Ferguson Linder Ross Hostettler Miller, Dan The result of the vote was announced Houghton Miller, Gary Shaw Flake Lipinski Rothman Shays Fletcher LoBiondo Roukema Hoyer Miller, George as above recorded. Sherman Foley Lofgren Roybal-Allard Hulshof Miller, Jeff A motion to reconsider was laid on Sherwood Forbes Lowey Royce Hunter Mink Shimkus the table. Ford Lucas (KY) Rush Mollohan Hyde Shows Stated for: Fossella Lucas (OK) Ryan (WI) Inslee Moore Shuster Mr. FILNER. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall No. 93, Frank Luther Ryun (KS) Isakson Moran (KS) Simmons I was attending a U.S./Mexico conference on Frelinghuysen Lynch Sabo Israel Moran (VA) Skeen Frost Maloney (CT) Sanchez Issa Morella Skelton border environmental issues. Had I been Gallegly Maloney (NY) Sanders Istook Murtha Slaughter present, I would have voted ‘‘yea.’’ Ganske Manzullo Sandlin Jackson (IL) Myrick Smith (MI) Gekas Markey Sawyer Jackson-Lee Nadler Smith (NJ) f Gephardt Mascara Saxton (TX) Napolitano Smith (TX) Gibbons Matheson Schaffer John Neal Smith (WA) ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Gillmor Matsui Schakowsky Johnson (CT) Nethercutt Snyder PRO TEMPORE Gonzalez McCarthy (MO) Schiff Johnson (IL) Ney Solis Goode McCarthy (NY) Schrock Johnson, E. B. Northup Souder The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Goodlatte McCollum Scott Johnson, Sam Norwood Spratt ISAKSON). Pursuant to clause 8 of rule Gordon McCrery Sensenbrenner Jones (NC) Nussle Stark XX, the Chair will reduce to 5 minutes Goss McDermott Serrano Kanjorski Oberstar Stearns the minimum time for electronic vot- Graham McGovern Sessions Kaptur Obey Stenholm Granger McHugh Shadegg Keller Olver Strickland ing on each additional motion to sus- Graves McInnis Shaw Kelly Ortiz Stump pend the rules on which the Chair has Green (TX) McIntyre Shays Kennedy (MN) Osborne Stupak postponed further proceedings. Green (WI) McKeon Sherman Kennedy (RI) Ose Sullivan Greenwood McKinney Sherwood Sununu Grucci McNulty Shimkus Kerns Otter f Tancredo Gutknecht Meehan Shows Kildee Owens Tanner Hall (OH) Meek (FL) Shuster Kilpatrick Oxley CLERGY HOUSING ALLOWANCE Tauscher CLARIFICATION ACT OF 2002 Hall (TX) Meeks (NY) Simmons Kind (WI) Pallone Tauzin Harman Menendez Simpson King (NY) Pascrell Taylor (MS) The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Hart Mica Skeen Kirk Pastor Taylor (NC) pending business is the question of sus- Hastings (WA) Millender- Skelton Kleczka Paul Terry Hayes McDonald Slaughter Knollenberg Payne Thomas pending the rules and passing the bill, Hayworth Miller, Dan Smith (MI) Kolbe Pelosi Thompson (CA) H.R. 4156, as amended. Hefley Miller, Gary Smith (NJ) Kucinich Pence Thompson (MS) The Clerk read the title of the bill. Herger Miller, George Smith (TX) LaFalce Peterson (MN) Thune Hill Miller, Jeff Smith (WA) LaHood Peterson (PA) Thurman The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Hinchey Mink Snyder Lampson Petri Tiahrt question is on the motion offered by Hinojosa Mollohan Solis Langevin Phelps Tiberi the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Hobson Moore Souder Lantos Pickering Tierney RAMSTAD) that the House suspend the Hoeffel Moran (KS) Spratt Larsen (WA) Pitts Toomey Hoekstra Moran (VA) Stark Larson (CT) Platts Towns rules and pass the bill, H.R. 4156, as Holden Morella Stearns Latham Pombo Turner amended, on which the yeas and nays Holt Murtha Stenholm LaTourette Pomeroy Udall (CO) are ordered. Honda Myrick Strickland Leach Portman Udall (NM) This will be a 5-minute vote. Hooley Nadler Stump Lee Price (NC) Upton Horn Napolitano Stupak Lewis (CA) Putnam Velazquez The vote was taken by electronic de- Hostettler Neal Sullivan Lewis (GA) Quinn Visclosky vice, and there were—yeas 408, nays 0, Houghton Nethercutt Sununu Lewis (KY) Radanovich Vitter not voting 26, as follows: Hoyer Ney Tancredo Walden Hulshof Northup Tanner Linder Rahall [Roll No. 94] Lipinski Ramstad Walsh Hunter Norwood Tauscher LoBiondo Rangel Wamp YEAS—408 Hyde Nussle Tauzin Lofgren Regula Waters Inslee Oberstar Taylor (MS) Watson (CA) Abercrombie Boozman Cox Isakson Obey Taylor (NC) Lowey Rehberg Watt (NC) Ackerman Borski Coyne Israel Olver Terry Lucas (KY) Reyes Watts (OK) Aderholt Boswell Cramer Issa Ortiz Thomas Lucas (OK) Reynolds Waxman Akin Boucher Crane Istook Osborne Thompson (CA) Luther Rivers Weiner Allen Boyd Crenshaw Jackson (IL) Ose Thompson (MS) Lynch Rodriguez Weldon (FL) Andrews Brady (PA) Crowley Jackson-Lee Otter Thune Maloney (CT) Roemer Weldon (PA) Armey Brady (TX) Cubin (TX) Owens Thurman Maloney (NY) Rogers (KY) Weller Baca Brown (FL) Culberson John Oxley Tiahrt Manzullo Rogers (MI) Wexler Bachus Brown (OH) Cummings Johnson (CT) Pallone Tiberi Markey Rohrabacher Whitfield Baird Brown (SC) Cunningham Johnson (IL) Pascrell Tierney Mascara Ros-Lehtinen Wicker Baker Bryant Davis (CA) Johnson, E. B. Pastor Toomey Matheson Ross Wilson (NM) Baldacci Burr Davis (FL) Johnson, Sam Paul Towns Matsui Rothman Wilson (SC) Baldwin Buyer Davis (IL) Jones (NC) Payne Turner McCarthy (MO) Roukema Wolf Ballenger Callahan Davis, Jo Ann Kanjorski Pelosi Udall (CO) McCarthy (NY) Roybal-Allard Woolsey Barcia Calvert Davis, Tom Kaptur Pence Udall (NM) McCollum Royce Wu Barr Camp Deal Keller Peterson (MN) Upton McCrery Rush Wynn Barrett Cantor DeFazio Kelly Peterson (PA) Velazquez McDermott Ryan (WI) Young (AK) Bartlett Capito DeGette Kennedy (MN) Petri Visclosky McGovern Ryun (KS) Young (FL) Barton Capps Delahunt Kennedy (RI) Phelps Vitter McHugh Sabo Bass Capuano DeLauro Kerns Pickering Walden McInnis Sanchez Becerra Cardin DeLay Kildee Pitts Walsh McIntyre Sanders Bentsen Carson (IN) DeMint Kilpatrick Platts Wamp McKeon Sandlin Bereuter Carson (OK) Deutsch Kind (WI) Pombo Waters Berkley Castle Diaz-Balart King (NY) Pomeroy Watkins (OK) NOT VOTING—26 Berry Chabot Dicks Kirk Portman Watson (CA) Biggert Chambliss Dingell Kleczka Price (NC) Watt (NC) Berman Hansen Pryce (OH) Bilirakis Clay Doggett Knollenberg Putnam Watts (OK) Blagojevich Hastings (FL) Riley Bishop Clayton Dooley Kolbe Quinn Waxman Burton Hilleary Serrano Blumenauer Clyburn Doolittle Kucinich Radanovich Weiner Cannon Hilliard Simpson Blunt Coble Doyle LaFalce Rahall Weldon (FL) Clement Jefferson Sweeney Boehlert Collins Dreier LaHood Ramstad Weldon (PA) Condit Jenkins Thornberry Boehner Combest Duncan Lampson Rangel Weller Filner Jones (OH) Traficant Bonilla Conyers Dunn Langevin Regula Wexler Gilchrest Kingston Watkins (OK) Bonior Cooksey Edwards Lantos Rehberg Whitfield Gutierrez Levin Bono Costello Ehrlich April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1307 Wicker Wolf Wynn Ferguson Linder Roukema NAYS—3 Wilson (NM) Woolsey Young (FL) Fletcher Lipinski Roybal-Allard Flake Paul Rohrabacher Wilson (SC) Wu Foley LoBiondo Royce Forbes Lofgren Rush NOT VOTING—24 NOT VOTING—26 Ford Lowey Ryan (WI) Berman Gilchrest Berman Gilman Kingston Fossella Lucas (KY) Ryun (KS) Jones (OH) Blagojevich Gutierrez Blagojevich Gutierrez Levin Frank Lucas (OK) Sabo Kingston Burton Hansen Burton Hansen Pryce (OH) Frelinghuysen Luther Sanchez Levin Cannon Hastings (FL) Cannon Hastings (FL) Riley Frost Lynch Sanders Pryce (OH) Clement Hilleary Clement Hilleary Sweeney Gallegly Maloney (CT) Sandlin Riley Condit Hilliard Sweeney Condit Hilliard Thornberry Ganske Maloney (NY) Sawyer Doyle Jefferson Thornberry Ehlers Jefferson Traficant Gekas Manzullo Saxton Filner Jenkins Traficant Filner Jenkins Young (AK) Gephardt Markey Schaffer Gilchrest Jones (OH) Gibbons Mascara Schakowsky Gillmor Matheson Schiff b 1915 b 1906 Gilman Matsui Schrock Gonzalez McCarthy (MO) Scott So (two-thirds having voted in favor So (two-thirds having voted in favor Goode McCarthy (NY) Sensenbrenner thereof) the rules were suspended and thereof) the rules were suspended and Goodlatte McCollum Serrano the bill was passed. the bill, as amended, was passed. Gordon McCrery Sessions Goss McDermott Shadegg The result of the vote was announced The result of the vote was announced Graham McGovern Shaw as above recorded. as above recorded. Granger McHugh Shays A motion to reconsider was laid on A motion to reconsider was laid on Graves McInnis Sherman Sherwood the table. the table. Green (TX) McIntyre Green (WI) McKeon Shimkus Stated for: Slated for: Greenwood McKinney Shows Mr. FILNER. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall No. 95, Mr. FILNER. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall No. 94, Grucci McNulty Shuster I was attending a U.S./Mexico conference on Gutknecht Meehan Simmons I was attending a U.S./Mexico conference on Simpson border environmental issues. Had I been border environmental issues. Had I been Hall (OH) Meek (FL) Hall (TX) Meeks (NY) Skeen present, I would have voted ‘‘yea.’’ Skelton present, I would have voted ‘‘yea.’’ Harman Menendez Slaughter Hart Mica f Smith (MI) f Hastings (WA) Millender- Smith (NJ) Hayes McDonald Smith (TX) REPORT ON RESOLUTION PRO- FAMILY FARMER BANKRUPTCY Hayworth Miller, Dan Smith (WA) EXTENSION ACT Hefley Miller, Gary VIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF Snyder Herger Miller, George H.R. 476, CHILD CUSTODY PRO- Solis The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hill Miller, Jeff Souder TECTION ACT ISAKSON). The pending business is the Hinchey Mink Spratt Hinojosa Mollohan Mrs. MYRICK, from the Committee question of suspending the rules and Stark Moore passing the bill, H.R. 4167. Hobson Stearns on Rules, submitted a privileged report Hoeffel Moran (KS) Stenholm (Rept. No. 107–411) on the resolution (H. The Clerk read the title of the bill. Hoekstra Moran (VA) Strickland Res. 388) providing for consideration of The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Holden Morella Stump question is on the motion offered by Holt Murtha Stupak the bill (H.R. 476) to amend title 18, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Honda Myrick Sullivan United States Code, to prohibit taking Hooley Nadler Sununu minors across State lines in cir- SENSENBRENNER) that the House sus- Horn Napolitano Tancredo cumvention of laws requiring the in- pend the rules and pass the bill, H.R. Hostettler Neal Tanner 4167, on which the yeas and nays are or- Houghton Nethercutt Tauscher volvement of parents in abortion deci- dered. Hoyer Ney Tauzin sions, which was referred to the House Hulshof Northup Taylor (MS) Calendar and ordered to be printed. This will be a 5-minute vote. Hunter Norwood Taylor (NC) The vote was taken by electronic de- Hyde Nussle Terry vice, and there were—yeas 407, nays 3, Inslee Oberstar Thomas f Isakson Obey not voting 24, as follows: Thompson (CA) Israel Olver Thompson (MS) ANNOUNCEMENT OF INTENTION TO [Roll No. 95] Issa Ortiz Thune Istook Osborne OFFER MOTION TO INSTRUCT ON YEAS—407 Thurman Jackson (IL) Ose Tiahrt H.R. 2646, FARM SECURITY ACT Abercrombie Boucher Cubin Jackson-Lee Otter Tiberi OF 2001 Ackerman Boyd Culberson (TX) Owens Tierney Aderholt Brady (PA) Cummings John Oxley Toomey Mr. SMITH of Michigan. Mr. Speak- Akin Brady (TX) Cunningham Johnson (CT) Pallone Towns er, pursuant to clause 7(c) of rule XXII, Allen Brown (FL) Davis (CA) Johnson (IL) Pascrell Turner I hereby announce my intention to Andrews Brown (OH) Davis (FL) Johnson, E.B. Pastor Udall (CO) Armey Brown (SC) Davis (IL) Johnson, Sam Payne Udall (NM) offer a motion to instruct conferees on Baca Bryant Davis, Jo Ann Jones (NC) Pelosi Upton H.R. 2646 tomorrow. The form of the Bachus Burr Davis, Tom Kanjorski Pence Vel´azquez motion is as follows: Baird Buyer Deal Kaptur Peterson (MN) Visclosky Baker Callahan DeFazio Keller Peterson (PA) Vitter Mr. SMITH of Michigan moves that Baldacci Calvert DeGette Kelly Petri Walden the managers on the part of the House Baldwin Camp Delahunt Kennedy (MN) Phelps Walsh at the conference on the disagreeing Ballenger Cantor DeLauro Kennedy (RI) Pickering Wamp Barcia Capito DeLay Kerns Pitts Waters votes of the two Houses on the Senate Barr Capps DeMint Kildee Platts Watkins (OK) amendment to the bill H.R. 2646 (an Barrett Capuano Deutsch Kilpatrick Pombo Watson (CA) Act to provide for the continuation of Bartlett Cardin Diaz-Balart Kind (WI) Pomeroy Watt (NC) agricultural programs through fiscal Barton Carson (IN) Dicks King (NY) Portman Watts (OK) Bass Carson (OK) Dingell Kirk Price (NC) Waxman year 2011) be instructed: Becerra Castle Doggett Kleczka Putnam Weiner (1) to agree to the provisions con- Bentsen Chabot Dooley Knollenberg Quinn Weldon (FL) tained in section 169(a) of the Senate Bereuter Chambliss Doolittle Kolbe Radanovich Weldon (PA) Berkley Clay Dreier Kucinich Rahall Weller amendment, relating to payment limi- Berry Clayton Duncan LaFalce Ramstad Wexler tations for commodity programs; and Biggert Clyburn Dunn LaHood Rangel Whitfield (2) to insist upon an increase in fund- Bilirakis Coble Edwards Lampson Regula Wicker ing for: Bishop Collins Ehlers Langevin Rehberg Wilson (NM) Blumenauer Combest Ehrlich Lantos Reyes Wilson (SC) (A) conservation programs, in effect Blunt Conyers Emerson Larsen (WA) Reynolds Wolf as of January 1, 2002, that are extended Boehlert Cooksey Engel Larson (CT) Rivers Woolsey by title II of the House bill or title II Boehner Costello English Latham Rodriguez Wu Bonilla Cox Eshoo LaTourette Roemer Wynn of the Senate amendment; and Bonior Coyne Etheridge Leach Rogers (KY) Young (AK) (B) research programs that are Bono Cramer Evans Lee Rogers (MI) Young (FL) amended or established by title VII of Boozman Crane Everett Lewis (CA) Ros-Lehtinen Borski Crenshaw Farr Lewis (GA) Ross the House bill or title VII of the Senate Boswell Crowley Fattah Lewis (KY) Rothman amendment. H1308 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 b 1915 dents against South Asian immigrants tleman from Kansas (Mr. MORAN) is SPECIAL ORDERS just in the last 3 months of the year recognized for 5 minutes. 2001. This number compares to 400 to Mr. MORAN of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. 500 incidents a year, bad enough, that ISAKSON). Under the Speaker’s an- I appreciate the opportunity to address were reported in the past. Complaints the House this evening in regard to our nounced policy of January 3, 2001, and of discrimination received by Arab responsibility as Members of this body under a previous order of the House, American Muslim and Sikh groups to listen to our constituents. It is im- the following Members will be recog- have soared. nized for 5 minutes each. Since September 11, the Council on portant that once we listen, that we bring that message back to Wash- f American Islamic Relations has re- ington, to our colleagues here on the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a ceived more than 1,700 reports of work- House Floor, and to the administration previous order of the House, the gen- place bias, Arab profiling, discrimina- down the street. tleman from Utah (Mr. HANSEN) is rec- tion in schools, physical assaults and ognized for 5 minutes. other incidents compared with 322 in Mr. Speaker, within the last few Mr. HANSEN addressed the House. all of the year 2000. weeks I completed my 66th town hall His remarks will appear hereafter in This backlash is not only a national meeting, one in each county of the the Extensions of Remarks.) problem, it is a global problem. France First Congressional District of Kansas. f has seen a wave of attacks on Jewish Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, there are schools, cemeteries and synagogues. many challenges that rural America BACKLASH OF HATE According to an annual study by the faces as we try to survive today, have The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Tel Aviv University, anti-Semitic acts a little prosperity, and move our people FLAKE). Under a previous order of the rose sharply around the world after and our communities to the future. House, the gentlewoman from Cali- September 11 and following Israel’s of- The issues across my State and fornia (Ms. WOOLSEY) is recognized for fensive into the West Bank. The study 5 minutes. revealed some of the worst anti-Se- across rural America continue to be se- Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Speaker, I rise mitic days since the end of World War rious; issues related to agriculture. today to draw attention to the back- II. This is another year, Mr. Speaker, in lash of hate that is occurring around Congress must make it clear that which farm commodity prices remain the country and around the world as there is no room for personal attacks low. In addition to that, we have, in the result of September 11 and as a re- and bigotry in America or abroad. The many places in the country, and in- sult of current actions in the Middle first step we as a Congress can take is cluding most of Kansas, a very severe East. Mr. Speaker, this Congress must to pass H.R. 1343, the Local Law En- drought. condemn these violent acts which are forcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act So on top of low commodity prices, hurting families and communities introduced by Congressman JOHN CON- our farmers face the prospect of poor around the world and here at home. YERS. Under current law, the govern- production. Absent snow falls this win- During the first week in April, two ment must prove both that the hate ter, absent rainfalls this spring, our men dressed in Orthodox Jewish cloth- crime occurred because of a person’s ability to put a product into the bin at ing were attacked and beaten in Berke- association with a designated group any price has become very difficult. ley, California, one of the most toler- and because the victim was engaged in Our circumstances in agriculture are ant cities in the United States, and a Federal activity such as voting or bleak, remain bleak, and they are the they were beaten because they were serving on a jury. H.R. 1343 would backbone for the economy of places Jewish. In the same town, a Jewish eliminate these overly restrictive ob- like Kansas, and it is important that student center located near the campus stacles to Federal involvement, which we continue our efforts in regard to was broken into and antiIsrael slogans have prevented government involve- farm legislation. Our conferees, the were spray-painted on the property. ment in many cases in which individ- gentleman from Texas (Mr. STENHOLM), Also in California, a Los Altos Hills or- uals kill or injure others because of ra- the ranking member, and the gen- thodox Christian church with a con- cial or religious bias. In addition, H.R. 1343 would authorize gregation of mostly Palestinians and tleman from Texas (Mr. COMBEST), the the Department of Justice to assist Arab Americans was destroyed in a chairman of the House Committee on local prosecutions and investigate and mysterious fire. Agriculture, continue in almost 24- prosecute cases in which bias violence And it continues. In Los Angeles, hour-a-day sessions attempting to ne- occurs because of the victim’s sexual three 17-year-old boys, all wearing gotiate a farm bill. It is important that orientation, gender, or disability. Cur- yarmulkes were walking home from a this work proceed. It is important that rently, Federal law does not provide friend’s house at 12:30 a.m., when 2 there be a return financially to the authority for involvement in those skinheads attacked and beat them for farmers and ranchers of this country. cases. no other reason than that they were Mr. Speaker, the people of the United Our farmers are concerned not only Jewish. Across the country in Florida, States must set an example for the about farm policy, but about the desire a pickup truck was driven into the world by expressing our differences for competition within the agribusiness front of an Islamic center in Tallahas- without resorting to violence against world, the entities which they buy see. The driver, motivated by hatred of our neighbors. We must remember that from and sell to, and certainly a desire Muslims, bragged to the officers that disagreement can be expressed without for open markets, the ability to export he could have blown up the mosque if physically attacking or demeaning their agriculture commodities around he had put propane tanks on the front those with whom we disagree. Our free- the world. of his truck. He also said that he tried dom of speech is a fundamental right So, Mr. Speaker, I hope to raise the to join the military in order to kill that should be used for causes that awareness of my colleagues from places Muslims. citizens are passionate about, but not outside the farm belt of the importance Mr. Speaker, all of these events hap- in a way that damages others’ rights to of farm policy, the importance of agri- pened over the past 3 weeks. However, their opinion. culture and consumption, and the im- since September 11, the increasing Mr. Speaker, this Congress has the portance of having competition within trend of hate has been abundantly ability to combat unnecessary hatred the agricultural arena. clear. Immigrants from south Asia ap- and lead the charge. Let us take a first pear to have been the victims of at- step by passing H.R. 1343. We look forward to meeting the country’s energy needs with agri- tacks and other racially motivated in- f cidents because they were perceived, culture, and certainly the opportuni- often incorrectly, to be Arab or Mus- CHALLENGES FACING RURAL ties for biodiesel and ethanol remain lim. AMERICA an important opportunity for our farm- The National Asian Pacific American The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a ers across the grain belt of our coun- Legal Consortium reported 250 inci- previous order of the House, the gen- try. But in addition to agriculture, we April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1309 have concerns with our hospitals. (Mr. LIPINSKI) is recognized for 5 min- Wysham, his shipmates aboard the Medicare has become a huge factor in utes. U.S.S. Kennedy, and the entire naval whether or not hospital doors remain (Mr. LIPINSKI addressed the House. family. Commander Blaschum leaves open, whether or not there are physi- His remarks will appear hereafter in behind a wife and two sons, Jack and cians in our communities, and we need the Extensions of Remarks.) Max, who will carry the memory of to continue to find ways that we can f their father’s service and his ultimate reimburse our health care providers in sacrifice as long as they live. TRIBUTE TO LIEUTENANT (J.G.) Mr. Speaker, Lieutenant Wysham rural America who are 60, 70, 80 and RAFE WYSHAM, USN even 90 percent of the patients that would probably be mortified to know those hospitals treat and that are seen The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a that he is being honored on the floor of by our physicians are Medicare recipi- previous order of the House, the gen- the United States House of Representa- ents. tleman from Oregon (Mr. WALDEN) is tives today. He is not the sort who In addition, we have issues related to recognized for 5 minutes. seeks public recognition for his service small businesses. How do we keep our Mr. WALDEN of Oregon. Mr. Speak- to our country. Neither is he the sort businesses on Main Street? Clearly, the er, I rise this evening to pay tribute to to dwell on his own mortality, or let tax burden, the rules and regulations a young Oregonian serving our country the fear of the unexpected keep him abroad as part of Operation Enduring that we in Congress and those in ad- from completing his vital mission. Freedom. Lieutenant Junior Grade Indeed, Rafe was back up in the air ministrations, current and past, have Rafe Wysham, a native of Madras, Or- less than a week after the accident, placed upon our business community egon, is currently assigned as an F–14 and in an e-mail to his mother shortly have a huge impact. We do not have Radar Intercept Officer aboard the after the incident, Rafe wrote, ‘‘I en- more customers everyday who move to U.S.S. John F. Kennedy in the Arabian tered this business knowing something our communities for our businesses to sea. like this could happen.’’ Like the thou- sell to, to spread those increasing costs Mr. Speaker, Lt. Wysham is a third- sands of men and women in uniform among. So we in Congress have an obli- generation naval officer. His grand- fighting the war on terrorism, Lieuten- gation to oversight, to reign in those father, a veteran of the Second World ant Wysham simply accepts his reality, rules and regulations that lack com- War, served on a destroyer and received and he marches on. mon sense and that are not based upon the Purple Heart. Rafe’s father, Bill, Mr. Speaker, the author, James science, because the end result of fail- served as a tactical coordinator on a P– Michener, wrote a famous story of an- ing to do so means that the business 3 naval aircraft in Vietnam. In short, other group of naval aviators whose community in rural America suffers. Mr. Speaker, the Wysham family is not service in the Korean War bears close It is also important for us to have unfamiliar with the sacrifices that at- resemblance to that of the men and adequate transportation, to make cer- tend service in the United States women serving in harm’s way today. In tain that our railroads, our highways, Armed Forces. his novel, the Bridges at Toko-Ri, our airports and aviation are func- After his graduation from Madras Michener tells of an officer named tioning, that people who live in rural High School in 1994, Rafe entered the Harry Brubaker, a lawyer who had America have access to the rest of the United States Naval Academy, where fought as a carrier pilot in World War world. Of course we have concerns he graduated in 1998 in the top 10 per- II, and then was recalled to fight again about the consequences of losing pas- cent of his class. Following his gradua- in the skies over Korea. Brubaker is senger train service across long dis- tion from the academy, Rafe was sent not at all pleased with the turn of tances of our country. I look forward to flight school in Pensacola, Florida, events, but tucks in his chin and ac- to working with my colleagues in that followed by advanced training in Nor- cepts his duty, nonetheless. regard. folk, Virginia. His assignment to the Brubaker’s task force commander is Finally, I would say education and U.S.S. Kennedy marks his first over- a salty old admiral named Tarrant, technology are important to rural seas deployment. who develops a deep but well-concealed America. We need to do our part to Mr. Speaker, on March 3 of this year, affection for the young pilot. Tarrant make certain that our Federal man- Lieutenant Wysham was confronted describes him as one of the men who dates are paid for. The consequences of with a sobering reminder of the danger ‘‘hammer on in, even though the our failure to pay for IDEA has a huge he faces every time he straps himself weight of the war has fallen unfairly on effect upon those who try to finance into his Tomcat and is catapulted into them. I always think of them as the local school districts through the prop- the sky. voluntary men. The world is always de- erty tax levy. That day during takeoff on a routine pendent on the voluntary men. So we have our work cut out for us as training mission in the Mediterranean In the end, Brubaker is lost pressing we look at educational issues to make Sea, Rafe’s aircraft developed a prob- the attack on the bridges, leaving the sure that what we require, we pay for. lem that prevented it from gaining old admiral reeling in the loss of one of It is important for us to make certain enough airspeed to take flight. Never- his boys. On the final page of the book, that the rural communities and the theless, the carrier’s catapult system he asks himself the question that people who live there are not left be- launched the plane forward too fast to haunts us all when we learn of the her- hind as the rest of the world accesses abort the takeoff, but too slow to make oism of our men and women in uni- technology. It is important to us to it into the air. The aircraft’s pilot, form: ‘‘Why is America lucky enough have fiberoptics and Internet and Lieutenant Commander Christopher M. to have such men,’’ he asks. ‘‘Where broadband services; things that used to Blaschum of Virginia Beach, imme- did we get such men?’’ have to be done in the city can now be diately called for both to eject. Mr. Speaker, in this case, we got done in rural places across the country. Rafe complied, but blacked out from them from the small town of Madras, So despite all of our challenges, we the force of that ejection. Tragically, Oregon, and the bigger city of Virginia know what the issues are. We must while Rafe’s parachute opened and de- Beach, Virginia. Thank God we have work together, rural and urban Amer- livered him safely to the water below, them, voluntary men, like Rafe ica, to try to make a difference in the Commander Blaschum’s chute failed Wysham and Chris Blaschum. We lives of all Americans. But I will tell and his life was lost. should be forever grateful on that ac- my colleagues that despite the prob- Lieutenant Wysham woke to find count. lems in 66 counties during the last few himself floating in the water in full f weeks, I remain optimistic because the gear, directly in the path of one of the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a people are there to make a difference. world’s most lethal warships. Cutting previous order of the House, the gentle- f away his seat pan, he swam desperately woman from the District of Columbia to escape the oncoming carrier, which (Ms. NORTON) is recognized for 5 min- b 1930 passed within 20 feet of him. Fortu- utes. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. nately, Rafe survived. (Ms. NORTON addressed the House. FLAKE). Under a previous order of the Mr. Speaker, the loss of his pilot was Her remarks will appear hereafter in House, the gentleman from Illinois a devastating blow to Lieutenant the Extensions of Remarks.) H1310 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 HONORING WALK–FM OF LONG tleman from New Jersey (Mr. PALLONE) life they possibly can. It is a shame ISLAND, NEW YORK is recognized for 5 minutes. that they and their families continue The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a (Mr. PALLONE addressed the House. to be victims of this unjust discrimina- previous order of the House, the gen- His remarks will appear hereafter in tion. tleman from New York (Mr. GRUCCI) is the Extensions of Remarks.) I thought it was imperative that we recognized for 5 minutes. f call this to the attention of the House of Representatives and to the United Mr. GRUCCI. Mr. Speaker, today I EQUAL PAY rise to honor WALK Radio Station in States, as well, to suggest that we The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a my district on Long Island that is cele- have, indeed, come a long way since Ni- previous order of the House, the gentle- brating their 50th birthday this Satur- agara Falls, but we have a long way to woman from Indiana (Ms. CARSON) is day, April 19. WALK–FM invited the go. recognized for 5 minutes. public to visit its new stations and stu- f Ms. CARSON of Indiana. Mr. Speak- dios on Colonial Drive in Patchogue on er, I rise in support of the Equal Pay STUART R. PADDOCK, JR. its official opening day, Saturday, Day. The Equal Pay Act became public The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a April 19, 1952. law in 1963, making it illegal to pay previous order of the House, the gen- Quoting from the invitation, the sta- women lower rates for the same job tleman from Illinois (Mr. KIRK) is rec- tion’s staff was ‘‘most anxious for you strictly on the basis of sex. Yet, almost ognized for 5 minutes. to see the glamorous, fully-equipped four decades later, the wage gap among Mr. KIRK. Mr. Speaker, Stuart Pad- studios and offices in our ultra-modern women and men persists. dock, Jr., was a leader. He inspired rev- building, which is not only the radio It is appalling that in the year 2002, erence among his friends, his associ- showplace of Long Island, but one of women across the United States con- ates, and his employees. He was a lead- the most beautiful radio stations in the tinue to be discriminated against on er who did not take credit, but instead, East.’’ the basis of gender. Women holding gave it away. He led with vision, en- WALK received well wishes on the air similar jobs with similar education, thusiasm, determination, and courage. that day from radio and television per- skills, work experience, job content, His kind words, his optimism, trust in sonalities of the era, including Perry still earn less than men. The Census people, and thoughtfulness endeared Como, Dick Powell, Kay Starr, and Bureau reports that women earn 27 him to all. Jack Sterling. cents less than men on the dollar. According to an editorial in today’s A clipping from the Bay Shore Sen- Why would I bring this up, other than Daily Herald, if we took a poll of the tinel and Journal dated April 24, 1952, it being Equal Pay Day, Mr. Speaker? people who work at the Herald, we described WALK this way: ‘‘The ultra- There has been a lot of commentary would find something extraordinary. modern station affords the best in fa- here on the floor of the House about We could not find a single person with cilities and promises to become a most welfare and welfare reform, and truly, a bad word to say about Stu, not one. important link in the communications women want not to draw welfare, but The work force numbers 880. That is field in Suffolk County.’’ rather to get into the marketplace and the kind of leader he was. In more recent years, WALK 97.5 FM be economically self-sufficient. Stu Paddock died on Monday, April has had consistent ratings success. Yet, we find just in Indiana, in a 15, at the age of 86. During three-and- WALK has been the number one adult glance at Indiana, that the African one-half decades of ownership, he built radio station on Long Island for over 16 American women earn only 67 percent the Daily Herald from a weekly com- years, reflecting a heritage of broad- of what men earn, and the earnings munity newspaper to the third largest cast excellence. WALK uniquely bal- among Latino women fall even lower, daily in Illinois. His is a remarkable ances the needs of the Long Island earning 58 percent of what men earn. success story of a family-owned busi- community in providing vital news, Three-quarters of African American ness in an era of corporate giants. weather, and traffic information, and a women and Latinos work in just three Paddock was the inspirational heart variety of music that Long Islanders types of employment: sales, clerical, and soul of one of the small number of enjoy at home, at work, and while in and service and factory jobs, and a ma- family-owned newspapers in America. their car. jority of those women do not even When he assumed leadership of the WALK’s news and public service com- make enough money to reach the pov- company in 1968, the newspapers were mitment has been recognized and hon- erty line for a family of four, which is publishing three times a week, with a ored over the years with a slew of $18,000 in the year 2002. circulation below 20,000. At his death, awards from the Long Island Coalition In Indiana, women, older women, he left a growing suburban daily with a for Fair Broadcasting, the New York women who are Social Security age, circulation of over 148,000, now the 7th State Broadcasters Association, and are living in poverty because their in- largest in the Nation. the Press Club of Long Island. On the come, their lifetime income earnings, Born September 19, 1915, in Palatine, trade side, their programming has won have decided the amount of their So- Paddock graduated in 1937 from Knox national awards from Billboard Maga- cial Security checks. So the con- College in Galesburg, and joined the zine and Radio & Records. sequence of that is that women are paper as an assistant editor. He was WALK 97.5 was chosen as the Na- drawing a very minuscule amount of called into service shortly after Pearl tional Association of Broadcasters’ Social Security checks, which propels Harbor as a second lieutenant, serving Marconi Adult Contemporary Station them into a remaining lifetime of pov- as a company commander in a tank de- of the year in 2001, giving the station erty. stroyer battalion as part of Patton’s national recognition for its community Thirty-nine years ago, President Third Army in Europe. He was dis- service and leadership. Kennedy signed the Equal Pay Act. He charged in 1946 at the rank of captain. In short, WALK embraces the Long called it the first step in addressing the In 1969, Paddock’s willingness to take Island community through its tireless unconscionable practice of paying fe- risks saved the newspaper. A critical support of the island’s not-for-profit male employees less wages than male slowdown occurred when Marshall organizations and important causes, employees for the same job. At that Field and his Sun-Times started a daily like the fight against breast cancer. time, women earned 58 cents for each newspaper called The Day in direct Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues in dollar earned by a man. So Mr. Speak- competition with the Herald. Over the the House to join me in congratulating er, equal pay is not only a woman’s next 4 years, the weekly Herald news- WALK–FM radio and its employees for issue, it is a family issue. It is bene- papers lost 40 percent of their circula- 25 years of being a thoughtful neighbor, ficial for the entire family. tion. and for its leadership in the commu- Women often provide a significant A plan to publish three times a week nity for over 50 years. amount or all of their family’s income, failed to turn around the paper’s for- f and in many cases, they are the sole tunes. ‘‘We either had to go daily or The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a wage-earners, struggling to provide die,’’ Paddock later reflected. Shortly previous order of the House, the gen- their families with the best quality of after taking over as president, he April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1311 turned the paper into a five-days-a- are not paid fairly, it lowers the family income. (Mr. WELLER) to announce our commit- week publication in 1969. Day Publica- That means there is less money for essentials ment to the repeal of the marriage tax tions soon surrendered and sold its like groceries, doctors’ visits, and clothes for penalty. We championed this noble newspaper operations to Paddock in the children. This is not a women’s issue, Mr. cause and were successful in obtaining 1970. Speaker, it is a family issue. We protect Amer- the eventual repeal of the marriage tax Paddock constantly pushed expan- ica’s working families by rectifying this wrong. penalty. sion, adding weekend editions and What can we do? I have two answers for Unfortunately, due to Senate rules, weekly papers in Lake County in the you. the marriage tax penalty repeal legis- 1970s that then went daily in 1984, and 1. We can pass the Paycheck Fairness Act, lation included a sunset provision that in the years since, Paddock oversaw which was introduced by my good friend from would automatically reinstate the nearly 20 expansions into areas of Connecticut, ROSA DELAURO. The Paycheck marriage tax penalty in the year 2011. Lake, DuPage, Kane, McHenry, and Fairness Act would strengthen existing equal What does that say to the American Will counties. pay and civil rights laws by providing effective people about this Congress? remedies to women who are not being paid Marriage is the bedrock of our soci- b 1945 equal wages for equal work. ety. It is an institution that is to be Paddock’s thoughtfulness is leg- 2. We can pass the ERA, reintroduced this honored and respected, and it is a bond endary among staff. Bob Frisk, the year by my good friend and colleague, the that should not be put asunder, espe- Daily Herald’s veteran assistant man- gentlewoman from New York, CAROLYN cially by the tax policies of the Federal aging editor of sports, retells the story MALONEY. We have waited too long to provide Government. of the night he was to be inducted into women with equal standing in the Constitution. Yet until last year, our tax laws gave the media wing of the Illinois Basket- The ERA would put some real teeth in our married couples a $1,400 surprise on ball Coaches Hall of Fame in Bloom- equal pay laws, and guarantee equal pay for their tax bill. They saw their taxes go ington. Bob’s wife was very ill and equal work. up for no other reason than they said could not attend. Frisk was feeling I would encourage all members who are not ‘‘I do,’’ and the effect of this tax most- lonely when Stu and Ann Paddock currently cosponsors of the ERA to join us. ly penalized young couples trying to walked into the room. Paddock told We have 200, but we need more. I would ask get their feet on the ground and retired Frisk, ‘‘We didn’t want you to be alone my colleagues to truly represent the 50 per- couples just trying to keep their feet when you were inducted on this big cent of their constituency that still goes unrec- on the ground. night.’’ ognized in the very document that guarantees In the second congressional district Stu’s legacy is rich with similar sto- our rights and freedoms. Why should women of Virginia, which I represent, there ries, like funding spirits ‘‘not the cheap be left behind? are over 56,000 married couples which stuff’’ for a holiday party to celebrate Mr. Speaker, I thank Representatives were subject to the marriage tax pen- a job well done in Naperville and com- DELAURO and MALONEY for their much needed alty. However, if these couples decided ing out to cheer on employees who leadership on this very important issue. to live together, rather than get mar- were playing for the local softball There is no excuse for disparity in pay be- ried, they would not have to pay the team. tween men and women. Mr. Speaker, it is time tax. That is simply unfair. Stu Paddock enjoyed classical music, for action. In honor of Equal Pay Day, I would The repeal of the marriage tax pen- the Bears and opera. He supported a ask my colleagues to join me as cosponsors alty provides a new level of fairness by number of good causes like the Chicago of these two important bills. There is no better preventing the Federal Government Symphony Orchestra, Lyric Opera, time than the present. Let’s stop ignoring this from penalizing couples for being mar- Ravinia, Goodman Theatre and the serious family problem today. ried. Now these families are able to Elgin Symphony Orchestra. Stu was f keep $1,400 a year of their hard earned the father of six, five daughters and a The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a income if they can save for a down pay- son. His wife, Ann, his four children previous order of the House, the gen- ment on a house or a new car, obtain and between them, 23 grandchildren tleman from Ohio (Mr. STRICKLAND) is health insurance, pay off student loans, and four great grandchildren. recognized for 5 minutes. save for their children’s education or Stuart R. Paddock, Junior, he served (Mr. STRICKLAND addressed the to pay off debts. our country, he served our community, House. His remarks will appear here- The repeal of the marriage tax pen- he served his employees and served his after in the Extensions of Remarks.) alty passed last year is now helping family with courage, honor, determina- f families all across our Nation to better tion and thoughtfulness and will be plan for their future. If they are able to sorely missed by all. EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR RE- eliminate debt, save for retirement or PEAL OF MARRIAGE TAX PEN- f pay cash for large ticket items, their ALTY future discretionary income will grow, IN HONOR OF EQUAL PAY DAY The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a helping to also grow our economy. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. previous order of the House, the gen- Between now and 2011, it is certain FLAKE). Under a previous order of the tleman from Virginia (Mr. SCHROCK) is that many of these couples’ income House, the gentleman from Michigan recognized for 5 minutes. will increase from raises or from tak- (Mr. DINGELL) is recognized for 5 min- Mr. SCHROCK. Mr. Speaker, I am ing new jobs. Also, they will be able to utes. happy to join my colleagues this better handle their day-to-day expenses Mr. DINGELL. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in evening in calling for the support of and any emergencies that may come honor of Equal Pay Day. This is a national day Congress to set in concrete the repeal along, but in 2011, that comfort level of action to promote fair pay. It is disheart- of the marriage tax penalty. provided by tax relief is set to dis- ening that Equal Pay Day comes only once a I was honored last year to become appear for these families. On that day, year. Mr. Speaker, everyday should be equal president of the Republican freshman the penalty for being married will sur- pay day. class of the 107th Congress. Early last prise them once again. Even though we have had equal pay laws year, our class members came together I cannot stand by and allow that to on the books for nearly 40 years, women still and made the repeal of the marriage happen to the 56,000 families that I rep- only earn .73 cents to the male dollar nation- tax penalty our class priority. Fresh resent. Unfortunately, there are those ally. In my home state of Michigan, that figure from the campaign trial and living in in this body and the other body that do is even worse, with women earning an aver- and working in our districts, each of not support making the repeal of the age of .67 cents to the male dollar. Not sur- our class members came to Washington marriage tax penalty permanent. They prisingly, women of color are in the worst posi- with the understanding that one of the will argue that we must work to ensure tion, earning only .64 cents to the male dollar. major priorities of the American peo- that Social Security is intact for fu- This, Mr. Speaker, is quite simply a disgrace. ple was to bring an end to this anti- ture and present retirees. I could not Equal work deserves equal pay. But in to- family, anti-marriage tax. agree more. Social Security is impor- day’s economy, unfair pay hurts more than On our third day on the job, our class tant for all Americans, and we should just women; it hurts families. When women joined with the gentleman from Illinois make sure that it stays protected for H1312 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 all Americans. However, I believe we herited a weakening economy and he I would note, as I stated earlier, that can save Social Security and provide says we have got this huge surplus, all the Bush tax cut did a number of good meaningful tax reform at the same this extra tax revenue that the Federal things to help working families. Pro- time. Government is collecting because taxes vided for marginal rate reductions, re- If we restrain the growth of govern- are too high and we are not spending it ducing the tax rate for every American ment and the growth of discretionary all, thanks to the fiscal responsibility who pays taxes, creating a whole new spending, we can achieve both, and the of this House. So why do we not take a tax rate structure. In fact, we created economic benefits from tax relief will portion of that surplus, that extra tax a new lower tax rate for the lowest in- help generate greater revenues as our revenue, and give it back to working come Americans, lowering their taxes economy continues to pull out of the families? Provide an across-the-board from 15 percent to 10 percent, helping now ended recession. tax cut that helps every working fam- low income taxpayers. Therefore, the repeal of the marriage ily, bring about tax fairness by elimi- We also, of course, repealed the death tax penalty should be made permanent nating the marriage tax penalty, wip- tax, a tax which has historically taken this year. Let us show the American ing out the death tax, increasing op- a majority of the family business away people that this Congress is determined portunities for retirement savings and from families who inherit the family to support legislation that helps saving for a college education? business from the founder and that has strengthen families and thus our com- The President was successful. Presi- caused so many businesses to go out of munities and economy. dent Bush’s leadership, with the leader- business, and some of my colleagues When the tax permanency legislation ship of the gentleman from Illinois are going to talk about that. comes to the House floor, I hope that (Mr. HASTERT) and Committee on Ways We doubled the child tax credit from we will send a strong message in sup- and Means chairman, the gentleman $500 to $1,000, helping families with port of American families by voting in from California (Mr. THOMAS), this children better afford their children’s favor of repealing this marriage tax House led the effort to lower taxes, and needs. penalty once and for all. in June of this past year, the President We increased retirement savings, in- signed into law what has become f creasing the amount one can con- known as the Bush tax cut. Unfortu- tribute to their IRA from $2,000 to MAKING PERMANENT THE BUSH nately, because of the arcane rules of $5,000, what one can contribute to their TAX CUT the Congress, the tax cut was tem- 401(k) from $10,500 to $15,000, and for The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under porary, which meant it had to expire in working moms and empty nesters, we the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- the year 2011. allowed those over 50 to make up When we think about that, when it uary 3, 2001, the gentleman from Illi- missed contributions to their IRA and expires, it is going to mean a big tax nois (Mr. WELLER) is recognized for 60 401(k), essentially what we call catch- increase on millions of working fami- minutes as the designee of the major- up contributions. lies across this country. That is really ity leader. We helped families save for edu- what this vote is about on Thursday is Mr. WELLER. Mr. Speaker, this cation, increasing education savings whether or not we continue to keep week we have an important vote in the accounts from $500 to $2,000 a year, and taxes lower for working families, House of Representatives, and my good allowing families to use that for ex- whether or not we continue to have tax friend from Virginia, the leader of the penses for elementary and secondary fairness or do we bring back an unfair freshman class, our new Members, education, as well as for college. Tax Code that punishes married cou- spoke so eloquently on this issue that Those are good things. Also, because ples and takes away the family farm is before us, and a group of us plan to many families were stepping forward and family businesses and makes it kind of expound on this issue that is and volunteering to adopt children and harder to save for retirement or a col- going to be before us this week. give children a loving home, we in- lege education, essentially imposing a As President Bush noted this past creased the adoption tax credit to tax increase on working Americans. weekend, the tax cut that the Presi- $10,000 for children with special needs, That is what this vote is going to be dent led, initiated and our Congress and of course, for those with nonspecial this week. passed and was signed into law in June I would note that one of the argu- needs, we have it at $5,000, and we also expires in less than 10 years, and to- ments the President made when he increased the income level of families night we felt it was important to talk talked about the need to cut taxes is that can qualify from $75,000 to $150,000, about the impact of a temporary tax that the President stated that we need and we also prevented the alternative cut because this week, on Thursday to get the economy moving again, and minimum tax from interfering or tak- morning, the House of Representatives if workers have a little extra spending ing away this tax relief for working will begin debate on legislation which money in their pockets, they are going families. will make permanent what has become to be able to meet the family needs, go Of course, part of the debate of who known as the Bush tax cut. to the grocery store, make some im- benefits from tax relief is who gets it, Let us review a little bit of history provements to their home, fix the car, and there is always some who say, oh, here. Over the last 7 years that we have maybe have a family vacation the first we cannot cut taxes because those who had a Republican majority in the Con- time ever. pay taxes will get it. We should not gress, we have been working to balance The President said that if his tax cut help those who pay taxes because ap- the budget and also to lower taxes for was signed into law, the economy parently they are rich. Well, let me working families. Unfortunately the would get better, and frankly, it was note who it is that benefited from the previous administration, the Clinton- working. Economists tell us that by Bush tax cut. Gore administration, vetoed time and Labor Day of this past year, Labor Day Under the President’s tax plan that time again our effort to lower taxes for 2001, the economy was on the rebound was signed into law and this Congress working Americans. and the Bush tax cut was the primary supported on and that we are going to Fortunately, the voters of our Nation reason that the economy was on the make permanent or vote to make per- this past year and a half ago in Novem- upswing. Of course, every one of us manent this week, over 100 million in- ber of the year 2000 elected a President knows what occurred on September 11 dividuals and families pay lower taxes. who feels the same way the majority of and the terrible tragedy of that attack Forty-three million married couples this House does, that is, the taxes are on our Nation and its economic impact see their taxes reduced on average by too high, families are struggling, and with almost 1 million Americans hav- more than $1,700 a year. Thirty-eight of course, we need to find ways to bring ing lost their jobs. million families with children will re- fairness to the Tax Code. Well, the Bush tax cut is continuing ceive an average tax cut of almost I was very proud of the President’s to work and the economy is beginning, $1,500. Eleven million single moms with leadership because he noted in January according to economists, to get on the children will be able to keep on aver- of last year, and January 2000 when he rebound again, and tonight we want to age $77 more to care for their children. became President, that the economy talk about what was in the Bush tax Thirteen million seniors will see their was in a downturn. The President in- cut. taxes reduced on average by $920, and April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1313 3.9 million taxpayers, including 3 mil- Now, if our colleagues in this House nesses by making repeal of the death lion taxpayers with children, will have of Representatives vote this week tax permanent. Mr. Speaker, we must their taxpayer liability for the Federal against making the Bush tax cut per- make the elimination of the marriage tax burden completely eliminated. manent, Jose and Magdalene Castillo tax and the elimination of the death Think about that. Almost 4 million are going to end up paying higher taxes tax permanent. If we do not, Congress taxpayers under the Bush tax cut, once again when the Bush tax cut ex- will be increasing taxes on families. those at the lower end of the economic pires. I believe that is wrong, and I be- Let us work toward a more family- area, pay no more taxes, thanks to the lieve the majority of this House thinks friendly Federal Government. Let us Bush tax cut. it is wrong and unfair that if the Bush have a more family-friendly Congress. Small business owners and entre- tax cut were to expire that couples like Let us end these burdensome taxes preneurs will receive a big chunk of Jose and Magdalene Castillo and Shad once and for all. this tax relief. Whenever my colleagues and Michelle Hallihan would pay high- Mr. WELLER. Mr. Speaker, I thank argue about who is going to get the er taxes just because they are married. the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. rate reduction and what that means, We have two leaders that are here in KERNS), who as a freshman has been a the House that have been leaders on they have to recognize that the vast real leader in his efforts to eliminate issues so important when it comes to majority of small businesses, almost 80 the marriage tax penalty and working helping working Americans. I would percent, pay in the top rate, and we with President Bush and the gentleman lowered their rate to 35 percent. like to yield to the gentleman from In- from Illinois (Mr. HASTERT) and ensur- diana (Mr. KERNS), who has been one of b 2000 the leaders and one of my partners in ing that a key part of the Bush tax cut Mr. Speaker, I have worked with eliminating the marriage tax penalty. included what we consider to be the many of my colleagues over the last Mr. KERNS. Mr. Speaker, I rise most unfair tax of all, and that is the several years to address something we today in support of the legislation to tax on the institution of marriage, one call the marriage tax penalty. Often in make the elimination of the marriage of society’s most basic institutions. debate I have asked that question, is it tax permanent. One of my top prior- Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman right, is it fair that under our Tax Code ities when I came to Congress was to from Missouri (Mr. HULSHOF). 28 million married working couples pay eliminate the marriage tax penalty, a Mr. HULSHOF. Mr. Speaker, what an higher taxes just because they are mar- penalty that unfairly punishes hard- appropriate time for us to really con- ried. working men and women for entering tinue this debate that we began a year Prior to the Bush tax cut, Americans into marriage, a fundamental institu- ago last spring when we, this body, saved money on taxes if they stayed tion of our Nation. voted in a bipartisan way to enact single. Our Tax Code encouraged cou- I have worked closely with the gen- some significant tax relief. ples not to marry. We made a decision, tleman from Illinois (Mr. WELLER), who Mr. Speaker, yesterday was in fact and it was certainly a priority of House has been a leader of this Nation on this tax day; and always there are jokes Republicans, to remove the penalty on issue. I was a chief cosponsor of this that sort of go around April 15. My fa- marriage. I often introduced a couple bill to end the marriage tax penalty, vorite happens to be an old Farmer’s from Joliet, Illinois, Shad and Michelle and it has been moving forward stead- Almanac saying if Patrick Henry Hallihan, who in combined income ily, but we do not have the job done thought taxation without representa- make about $65,000. Their marriage tax yet. We succeeded in passing marriage tion was bad, he ought to see it with penalty was $1,400 that they paid in tax relief; but after 10 years, the mar- representation. higher taxes just because they got mar- riage tax penalty returns. Imagine As one of the members of the Com- ried. that, our Federal Tax Code would once mittee on Ways and Means that insists Under the Bush tax cut, their mar- again punish married couples. That is on doing my own taxes, and I did not riage tax penalty was eliminated. Now why we are here today, to stand up for deny myself that enjoyment over the if the Bush tax cut is allowed to expire, families, to call for the final end to weekend, I was thinking what can we Shad and Michelle Hallihan will once this unfair penalty that singles out do to make the Tax Code simpler and again pay higher taxes just because married couples. Simply put, the elimi- fairer. As my seat mate on the Com- they are married. Their child, Ben, who nation of the marriage tax penalty mittee on Ways and Means, the gen- is 2, they got married about the time helps families. This is legislation that tleman from Illinois (Mr. WELLER) has we introduced the legislation, the child will provide relief to nearly 43 million done so admirably, and over these was about a year old by the time the married couples. It will save the aver- Bush tax cut was signed into law. When months I feel as if I know quite well age married couple $2,720. If we do not Shad and Michelle Hallihan because the Bush tax cut expires, when Ben is make this elimination of the marriage 11 or 12, that is $1,400 less that Shad the gentleman tells their story so fre- tax penalty permanent, Congress will quently on the House floor. and Michelle Hallihan are going to be raising taxes on families. We should As we set this debate up, Mr. Speak- have to be able to set into their edu- allow families to keep more of their er, first of all, why is this vote nec- cation savings account. hard-earned dollars and to save and use essary? Why is it that we are talking Let me give an example of another as they choose. The government should about permanence or the lack of per- couple from Joliet, Illinois, Jose and not be in the business of discouraging manence with what Congress did last Magdalene Castillo. They are both la- marriage. borers in Joliet, Illinois. They have For that same reason, the permanent summer? It is interesting to note, I two children, Eduardo and Carolina. repeal of the death tax is also sound think, that tax increases are always They suffer the marriage tax penalty public policy. People work hard all of permanent. I think back, we had a de- as well. They make about $85,000 a their lives it save and pass along some- bate recently about the Spanish-Amer- year. Jose makes about $57,000 in his thing for their families, perhaps a farm ican war tax, a tax on luxury tele- building trade construction-related or a small business to their children phones back in 1898 to help pay for the job, and Magdalene makes about and grandchildren. It is wrong for the war effort, and later the World War I $25,000. With their combined income Federal Government to punish those effort. That tax still exists today. and the way the marriage tax penalty families for their hard work and suc- I think of the inheritance tax that works for the Castillos is by being mar- cess. While we took a step in the right was enacted back in 1916; it still exists ried, they file jointly. When you are direction of ending the Federal estate today. It is a permanent tax. Even the single, you file as two singles. But tax, it, too, like the marriage tax, re- tax increases of 1993, I know the Demo- when you marry, you file jointly, turns after 10 years. How can we expect cratic colleagues are proud to point out which means you combine your in- the American people to plan for the fu- that tax increase passed without one come. That usually pushes one into a ture with the threat of the death tax single Republican vote; and a lot of higher tax bracket. For the Castillos, returning after a few years looming those items called deficit reduction tax for Jose and Magdalene, they paid overhead? still exist today. $1,100 in higher taxes just because they We must continue to protect and pre- So it is ironic when we are talking were married. serve the family farm and small busi- about tax increases; they are always H1314 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 permanent. And yet when it comes to each April 15. As these income tax about the gentleman from Illinois’ tax decreases, that is letting Ameri- rates are reduced, and when they are work on repealing the marriage pen- cans keep more of their hard-earned fully phased in in 2006, small businesses alty. He is the reason the marriage money, we have to go through yeomen are going to have additional resources penalty is repealed in this legislation. effort to try to make those tax cuts for fostering economic growth and de- He deserves the credit for that. And the permanent. velopment. In other words, they cap- gentleman from Missouri (Mr. I have had constituents who asked ture that money that normally they HULSHOF) who is my lead partner on me why was this sunset placed on the would pay to the Federal Government, this bill is the leading advocate for ag- bill. Well, there were procedural rules. they get to reinvest it in their busi- riculture and tax policy and helping When this tax relief measure made it nesses which creates more jobs, pro- farmers, in Congress, I would add. I to the other body, there were oppo- vides additional spending power for want to thank him for allowing me to nents to the bill which threatened to those people who work for those small join him in proposing this legislation filibuster the bill and institute a lot of businesses. For then to say, to pull the and being his coauthor on this legisla- arcane budget rules unless this sunset rug out from underneath them on Jan- tion to make this tax cut permanent. were added. There is no public policy uary 1, 2011, and say well, we know that I have been watching the debate. It rationale behind this sunset. It was you have enjoyed low tax rates of the seems that you can wrap it up into four simply an effort to avoid a procedural last couple year, but on New Year’s big issues. This tax bill, which we all roadblock in the United States Senate. Day of 2011, these tax rates go back to worked very hard to pass, the Presi- I do not believe that American tax- the pre-2001 level, that is a significant dent proposed, we worked on it in the payers should be held hostage to ar- income tax hike. Committee on Ways and Means, we cane Senate budget rules. From that It is for policy reasons that I think passed it bipartisanly through the policy perspective, I think it is impor- this body should act, and certainly I House, through the Senate and got it tant that we vote in favor of perma- would call on all of those from both signed into law, this tax cut fixes four nence. sides of the aisle that supported this big inequities. It brings fairness to four Mr. WELLER. Mr. Speaker, say that bill a year ago. I think there were 28 major issues. the Bush tax cut were to expire and the Democrats who joined us in this bipar- As the gentleman from Illinois has House and the Senate were to fail to tisan vote. If it was good policy then, it championed, it brought fairness to the pass legislation to make permanent the remains good policy now. issue of the marriage penalty. It re- Bush tax cut, eliminating the marriage Mr. WELLER. Mr. Speaker, reclaim- duced and repealed the marriage tax penalty, wiping out the death tax, ing my time, I thank the gentleman penalty. But it did many other things. across-the-board tax reductions, help- from Missouri for his leadership and On the retirement end, we have a pen- ing low-income families, creating a helping small businesses and agri- sion system that before this tax bill much lower tax bracket for low-income culture. Seventy-nine percent of those was written at a time in our pension families, would you consider that a tax who benefit from the rate reduction at laws, in our economy, when people did increase? the top bracket, as the gentleman not change jobs that much. What we Mr. HULSHOF. Mr. Speaker, there is pointed out, are self-employed entre- did in this bill was update our pension no question about it. There was some preneurs and small business people. laws so people could move their pen- discussion already that certain Sen- They are not rich people. These are sions with them as they change jobs. ators were talking earlier in the year folks down on Main Street. We fixed a lot of the problems that about suspending this year’s tax relief have been experienced with the Tax 2015 and capturing those monies for addi- b Code in the new economy. They have tional spending. There was some dis- They are real people that work hard, been fixed in this bill. cussion about whether suspending struggle to employ their neighbors and, We increased the act for businesses those tax cuts would in fact be a tax of course, benefit when we lower the to offer higher 401(k) matches to their increase or not. Putting that aside, tax rate because, frankly, making per- employees. We increased the cap on clearly on January 1, 2011, if Congress manent the Bush tax cut is also good 401(k)s. We increased the cap on IRAs fails to act, we will see a significant in- for the economy. from $2,000 to $5,000. That is another come tax hike of billions of dollars on One thing I have heard time and time big problem, a big fairness issue that America’s families, just as some of again from businesspeople and entre- we restored in this bill. We also re- those that the gentleman mentioned in preneurs and small businesspeople and pealed the estate tax, a tax that has his congressional district. farmers is that when they know there been the single greatest killer of the I know that the gentleman from Indi- is a provision in the Tax Code that af- transfer of family farms and small ana (Mr. KERNS) earlier was talking fects them and it is permanent, they businesses on to the next generation. about the death tax and marriage pen- are more inclined to make long-term And what we did in income tax rates, alty relief, and I see my cosponsor of investment decisions. When the con- and as you gentlemen mentioned, al- H.R. 2316, the gentleman from Wis- sequences are short-term, they are most 80 percent of the top rate bracket consin (Mr. RYAN), is here; and I look hesitant. So if we really want to get filers file as individuals, meaning the forward to hearing what he has to say. this economy moving again, it is one small businessmen and women of In today’s Wall Street Journal there more reason to make permanent the America are not corporations, they are was an editorial in favor of perma- Bush tax cut. not C corps, they do not file their taxes nence, and it was focusing on making We have been joined by the gen- as large corporations, they file their the death tax repeal permanent. I abso- tleman from Wisconsin (Mr. RYAN), a taxes as subchapter S corps, as sole lutely agree with that, but I think the colleague of ours on the Committee on proprietorships. Therefore, they pay in- entire tax relief measure that we en- Ways and Means, someone who is one dividual tax rates. acted in this Congress last year, all of of the thinkers in the House when it What happens right now under the those provisions, should be made per- comes to understanding policy and un- tax law, we are taxing small businesses manent. Here is why: derstanding also what it means for at a rate higher than we tax the largest There are so many sole proprietors, small business and for farmers and for corporations. So the small business small businesses in America, in fact, working people in every community in men and women of America on Main the majority of small businesses in America. I yield to the gentleman from Street USA, in the barber shops, and America that actually pay the indi- Wisconsin. all the small manufacturers, they were vidual income tax rate. In other words, Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin. I thank the being taxed before this tax bill at near- they did not pay the corporate income gentleman from Illinois for yielding. ly 40 percent, while we were taxing the tax rate, but instead because they are First before I contribute, I would like largest corporations of America, IBM, sole proprietorships and partnerships, to thank the two of you gentlemen for General Motors, Chrysler at 35 percent. perhaps they are subchapter S corpora- your leadership on this issue. This is This tax bill lowers that small business tions, they have the benefit of this in- my first year on the Committee on tax rate to the same tax rate as large dividual income tax rate that they pay Ways and Means. I have long known corporations. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1315 Mr. WELLER. Let me ask the gen- park, they were forced to sell off a tives of the media have begun to in- tleman this question. Are you telling piece of grandpa’s farm in order to pay quire about the bill being on the floor me that prior to the Bush tax cut, that the estate tax. this week, and one question that I self-employed people, entrepreneurs, So if you care about open space, think we have to continue to answer small businesspeople actually paid at a about urban conservation, farmland this week as we move forward the bill’s higher tax rate than IBM or any other and urban sprawl and frankly the envi- consideration on Thursday is why are major corporations? ronment, you should work for the we taking up the bill now? If we are Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin. That is ex- elimination of the death tax. I know talking about something, the sunset actly right. That is one of the injus- that was one of the arguments I heard actually not taking effect until Janu- tices, one of the fairness issues we fixed many times from the farmers in my ary 1 of 2011, why consider the bill now? in this tax bill. We finally lowered the suburban area, if you care about the I think the gentleman has, in part, small business tax rate to be equal environment, about open space and the answered the question, because if you with the corporate tax rate. Because preservation of farmland, you want to are a small businessperson, certainty before this tax cut, it was higher than eliminate the death tax. in the Tax Code is appropriate as you that. Not only do we help Americans Mr. HULSHOF. I would like to am- make long-term decisions about your save for their retirement, not only do plify the point by my colleague from own business. Moreover, especially the we repeal the estate tax in this bill, the Wisconsin and coauthor of this bill to death tax. You cannot legitimately single greatest killer of transfer of sunset the sunset. It is interesting that plan or have an estate plan based upon your business to the next generation, a New York Times columnist, as he the uncertainty of the death tax being not only did we repeal the marriage was commenting on the work that we gone today and back tomorrow. And so penalty and not only did we lower the had done, and finally we were moving that certainty is necessary. I would say small business tax rate to that level of toward repeal of the death tax, but as to those green eyeshade wearers in this the large corporate tax rate, what we the gentleman noted, for a single year, body, I do not mean to denigrate be- 2010, and this New York Times col- did was we helped people reinvest in cause there are fiscal considerations to umnist dubbed what we had done, the their businesses, we helped people keep this as well, but I was informed by one ‘‘throw momma from the train act,’’ more of their own money. of the media representatives today because the only way to take full ad- What is going to happen if this legis- that the Senate majority leader said vantage of the death tax repeal was to lation to make this tax cut permanent throw momma from the train in the that a vote on permanence would be does not pass is we will be imposing on year 2010 because on January 1 of the fiscally irresponsible. And so I want to January 1, 2011, the single largest tax next year, then here comes the death answer with certain budget numbers, increase in American history in any tax springing out of the grave, coming that this is fiscally responsible. If we given year. We are going to impose on back to life. were to enact permanence to the tax the American taxpayer a $125 billion Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin. I appreciate cut of a year ago, the revenue impact tax increase that year. that comment. That is what is so crazy would be $374 billion over the next 10 So, for example, if you are a small about this arcane rule in the other years. The amount, the most recent business owner or a family farmer and body that was forced into this legisla- projection by the Congressional Budget your estate is worth, they say, $3 mil- tion that sunset this tax cut in the Office, that is, our bookkeepers for the lion, there are a lot of small family year 2011. If this legislation that we are House, propose that over that same pe- farms in Wisconsin that are worth well now proposing does not pass, on the riod of time, we will be taking in a sur- more than $3 million. They have a lot year 2011, the estate tax goes from zero plus of $2.332 trillion. And so this real- of assets locked up in combines, in to 55 percent. The education IRAs go ly, as far as the fiscalness of what we land, in barns and other kinds of from a $2,000 limit back down to $500. are taking up, is appropriate. things. If you are a small business The IRAs, individual retirement ac- I think, again, the worst thing we owner and you own some kind of small counts, go from a $5,000 per year limit could do is allow these tax items, the distribution business, you have some back down to $2,000. 401(k)s go back many tax relief measures that we have vans and trucks and a factory, $3 mil- from $15,000 per year down to $10,500. been talking about, to somehow allow lion can add up very quickly. If you The marriage tax penalty comes back them to be what we know in parlance died in the year 2010, you do not pay an to haunt us. All of those things that we to be called extenders, that is, just as estate tax. That is the correct way to will have been accustomed to over the they are getting ready to expire, do it, because you already paid taxes decade, all of those tax inequities, mar- maybe giving another 2 or 3-year ex- on all the money you earned while you riage tax penalty, estate tax, taxing tension of that tax cut. Again, I think were living. But if that person with the small businesses at a higher rate than that just breeds a lot of uncertainty. $3 million estate dies on January 1, corporations, all will come back in And so from a policy perspective, I 2011, that person is going to have to that one year to sock it to the Amer- think it is so vitally important that we pay $800,000 in estate tax. Just think of ican economy. That is one thing that I enact this permanence. this. If you die in the year 2010 when think we need to bear in mind. Getting away from the numbers, if the estate tax is repealed, no tax. If What is this going to do to our econ- the gentleman would permit me just you die the next year, $800,000. omy? I hear it from so many small another minute or so, I do not have a Mr. WELLER. I represent the south business members and entrepreneurs photograph, but a family that has ac- side of Chicago and the south suburbs, and farmers in my district, that they tually been portrayed, I think, in USA of course, an area that is going from say, we cannot plan appropriately for Today and some other national publi- farmland to subdivision in many cases. the future. There is so much hesitancy cations is the Eiffert family. Howard We have a lot of family farmers in the built into the marketplace all across Eiffert, the constituent, is from Colum- Frankfurt and Mokena area, in the America because they do not know as bia, Missouri. Howard Eiffert began a Manhattan area in Will County, and small business men and women wheth- lumber business back about 37 years they would like to stay in the farming er they can bank on the fact that these ago. He has two sons now, Brad and business. But many of them have told tax laws are going to be made perma- Greg. Brad and Greg Eiffert are run- me the story of when grandpa died, be- nent. So they withhold that invest- ning the lumber business. It is a fairly cause the value of that land for devel- ment. They do not take that extra small business. It employs about 32 opment purposes, even though they risk. The bank will not give them cred- people. Yet they are so concerned wanted to keep it in the family farm, it because they do not know what is about the estate tax or the death tax continue farming it, keep it in open going to happen in the future with re- that they have reported that annually space, because they like farming and it spect to tax law. So we see a hesitancy they contribute between $30,000 and is a family business, because of the es- built into the marketplace. That $35,000 a year to purchase an insurance tate tax and the value of that land if means less risk, less job creation, less policy on the life of Howard Eiffert, the they sold it to somebody who would de- economic growth. founder of this company, in the event velop it and build houses or put a fac- Mr. HULSHOF. As we have already that he were to meet his demise in that tory there, turn it into an industrial begun to debate this and as representa- year and that insurance policy then H1316 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 would pay the Federal Government Americans. The Bush tax cut actually under the Bush tax cut on average by this estate tax bill. provides help for 100 million Americans $920, and 3.9 million taxpayers, includ- Brad and Greg, who now run this who benefited from the Bush tax cuts: ing 3 million taxpayers with children, company, have expressed to me so across-the-board rate reductions, which had their tax liability to the Federal many times, and very passionately, helped everyone who pays taxes; elimi- Government completely, completely think of what that business could do nation of the marriage tax penalty; wiped out. with another 30 to $35,000 a year. It elimination of the death tax; doubling Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin. If the gen- could be a well-paying job for another the child tax credit; increased oppor- tleman will yield on that point, what employee every year. It could be tunity for retirement savings and sav- was that number again? maybe another piece of equipment. It ing for education. Mr. WELLER. Three million families could be adding on to their warehouse If you vote against making it perma- with children no longer pay Federal in- where they keep the lumber and their nent, you are really voting to put the come taxes because of the Bush tax inventory. It could be a lot of things. marriage tax penalty back on Jose and cut. But unless we make the death tax per- Magdalene Castillo, or Shad and Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin. Under the manent, unless we take this entire tax Michelle Hallihan and 28 million other Bush tax cut, over 3 million families cut of a year ago and make that tax married working couples across Amer- are being taken off the Federal income cut permanent, there is going to be ica who pay higher taxes, or the hun- tax roles and would be put back on, this continued uncertainty, which is a dreds of thousands of small businesses they would have new taxes reimposed drain on our small businesses across and family farms that are in jeopardy back on them, if this tax bill is not the country. That is why I hope for a of moving on to the next generation be- made permanent? Mr. WELLER. Reclaiming my time, good vote this week. cause of the death tax; and if we fail to make permanent the elimination of the the gentleman from Wisconsin is abso- b 2030 death tax, we put it back in place, jeop- lutely right. Three million families Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin. I want to ardizing the future of the family farm with children would be placed back on point out also the score the gentleman and the family business. the tax rolls, and 3.9 million taxpayers mentioned, the revenue cost that is as- If you care about retirement savings, would be placed back on the tax rolls. sumed by the Congressional Budget Of- well, if you vote against making per- Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin. Three mil- fice. What is interesting about that manent the Bush tax cut, you better lion families hit with a new tax in the score is not so much that it is $374 bil- save every dime that you are capable of year 2011. lion out of a surplus of $2.3 trillion. It doing right now, because in 2011 you Mr. WELLER. Yes. The gentleman is that that is the most dour and pessi- will go back to $500, versus the $2,000 from Wisconsin is absolutely correct. If mistic, conservative score anybody for education savings accounts, or you think about it, who are those fami- could come up with, because that score $2,000 versus $5,000 for your IRA. Those lies? Who are those individuals? They are low-income Americans. The biggest assumes that people will not change are tax increases. beneficiaries of the Bush tax cut, what their behavior when their taxes are Some are going to argue that we we passed this past year, were low-in- cut. should not make it permanent because come families, because low-income That score denies the assumption they want to spend the money. They families saw the biggest portion of that if we lock in permanency we are think it is better that we collect that their taxes wiped out. If you think going to unleash a lot of investment money and reimpose those taxes and about it, 3 million Americans with out there. When we lock in certainty to collect that money and spend it here in children who previously had paid taxes the small American businessman and Washington, because Washington can no longer pay Federal taxes. That is businesswoman and entrepreneur, that, better spend the folks back home’s total simplification of their taxes. yes, this tax law is permanent and now hard-earned dollars better than they They no longer have to pay taxes. you can move on with certainty to ex- can. I was so proud of the leadership of What happens to the money that pand your job and invest, that we are President Bush, and I was so proud of would have come to Washington? They going to get positive economic growth the leadership of Speaker HASTERT and can spend it back home in Janesville, out of that, I believe that the economic the Republican majority in this House Wisconsin, and Morris, Illinois, and Co- positive benefits we are going to get and moving through the Bush tax cut, lumbia, Missouri, fine communities, out of this bill will more than make up because, similar to the Kennedy and where there are hard-working people for a lot of the revenue costs we are as- Reagan tax cuts, this tax cut is mean- who can better spend their hard-earned suming. ingful. One hundred million Americans dollars better than we can for them They assume no one makes a change benefit. and take care of their families’ needs, if their taxes are changed. They as- Again, let me share those statistics and maybe buy some new clothes for sume no positive economic growth is of who benefits from the Bush tax cut the kids to go to school, or make an derived from a lowering of marginal in- and our efforts to make it permanent. addition on to the family house, build come tax rates or repeal of the estate Again, 100 million individuals and fam- an extra bedroom for the children. tax. They just assume it is a loss of ilies pay lower taxes because of the They have all been bunking together, revenue to the government. Bush tax cut. If we fail to make it per- and they are getting older and they So even though we now can point out manent, their taxes go up. want to put an addition on the house. that the loss of revenue according to Forty-three million married couples So they can afford to do it with the our budget keepers is minuscule in see their taxes reduced on average by Bush tax cut. But if you vote against comparison to the size of the surplus more than $1,700 a year. If you vote permanency, you are reimposing that over the decade, they do not point out against making the Bush tax cut term and hurting those 3.9 million families all of those positive economic benefits, permanent, you are reimposing a mar- who no longer pay taxes because of the the jobs that will be created, the in- riage tax penalties on Jose and Bush tax cut. vestment that will be unleashed, by Magdalene Castillo, who right now save I would like to ask the gentleman making certainty in this tax bill. about $1,125 a year because of marriage from Missouri, and be happy to yield, Mr. WELLER. Reclaiming my time, tax penalty relief. you have also been one of the leaders again I want to commend the gen- Thirty-eight million families a year on retirement savings. Of course, the tleman from Missouri (Mr. HULSHOF) with children, Jose and Magdalene are Bush tax cut built upon a lot of the and the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. an example here with Eduardo and work done by our colleague, the gen- RYAN) for their leadership on making Carolina, they benefit from the child tleman from Ohio (Mr. PORTMAN), and permanent what we call the Bush tax tax credit as well. If you fail to make many others who have worked so hard cut and what the real impact is on fam- the Bush tax cut permanent, you take to increase the opportunity for small ilies. that away from them and raise their businesses to offer additional retire- When we think about it, voting taxes on their kids. That is wrong. ment savings opportunities for their against permanency is a tax increase. I have a note that 13 million senior workers, and also for individuals to be It is a tax increase on millions of citizens have seen their taxes reduced able to set aside money in their IRAs. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1317 I would be happy to yield to the gen- aisle have helped vote for it, worked One is the notion of flexibility and tleman to explain that portion of the for some of these items, those items freedom, and the other a basic philos- Bush tax cut. would be no longer in the Tax Code. ophy that we really need to change, Mr. HULSHOF. I appreciate the gen- That positive tax relief would be oblit- and we have played a great role in tleman yielding. erated if this House and Congress do changing it, and that is the notion that What is interesting about our Tax not act to make the tax cut perma- people should not be punished for suc- Code is it really does punish those who nent. ceeding; that they should have the pos- wish to save and invest. There are so Mr. WELLER. Reclaiming my time, sibilities economically to deal with many other nations that have a higher again, I salute the gentleman from whatever challenges confront them in savings rate than the United States of Missouri for his leadership in helping life. America because we have built into our expand education savings accounts. I My friend from Missouri talked about code, in fact, I am so familiar again think of thousands of families in the educational tax credits, and certainly with my 1040, having just spent so district that I represent, the South our heart goes out not only to those much time with it, line 8 of your 1040 Side of Chicago and the south suburbs, who are planning for college, but chil- says what was your interest income, who now have the opportunity, thanks dren with special needs, the oppor- put that here, because we are going to to your leadership, to be able to set tunity to help parents of a Down’s Syn- tax it. A lot of nations do not do that. aside money for elementary and sec- drome child, provide educational op- So we have tried in various ways to ondary education, schools of their portunities through the Tax Code to help American families, especially as choice, or else for other expenses af- enhance their options and flexibility, they look way down the road at retire- fecting their child’s education. not to wait upon the largesse of gov- ment. We have a vexing problem ahead In the past it was only for college ernment, but to utilize their own of us as far as the baby boomers retir- and you could only set aside $500; but money for their own legitimate inter- ing and the future solvency of Social under the gentleman’s leadership, you ests and their own timetable. Security. That is an issue for another can set aside up to $2,000. Think about That is really what it comes down to, day. that. When a child turns 18, if you to transfer money, power and influence But what we have done over the could only set aside $500, that is $9,000. out of the hands of a bureaucracy, an course of Congress, since 1997, as the Well, we all know what college costs impersonal bureaucracy in Wash- gentleman recalls the significant tax today, and that would not go very far ington, D.C. and understand that the relief that we passed back in 1997, that at a year’s tuition at most universities money utilized does not belong to the was actually signed into law by then across this country. Federal Government. President Clinton, we created some ad- But thanks to the gentleman’s lead- I look and I see my friend from Ari- ditional savings vehicles and tried to ership, now they would be able to set zona serving tonight as Speaker pro expand the opportunities for families aside $2,000 a year and potentially have tem. Last night we were at the State to put money aside in 401(k) plans, or, up to $36,000 that they could save and Capital in Phoenix discussing the real- as the gentleman knows, really a pet set aside for college, if they do not ization that the money people gave vol- issue of mine, to help parents save for spend any of that for elementary or untarily April 15 is their money. their childrens’ education. Back in secondary education. 2045 1997, the idea was created of an edu- So I commend the gentleman for his b cation savings accounts. Now we have leadership. That means a lot to the They give to the Federal Government the ability, because of last summer’s people of the south suburbs, towns in ‘‘voluntarily.’’ When we allow people to tax cut, the Bush tax cut, as the gen- Joliet and elsewhere. have more of their own money to save, tleman has referred to it, we have now We have been joined by my other spend, and invest as they see fit, things given more flexibility to families to seatmate on the Committee on Ways work better for them, and government put money, or even neighbors or and Means, a classmate of mine. I re- actually works better. churches or businesses, to put money member when the gentleman from Ari- The other thing that my colleagues into a family’s education account in zona (Mr. HAYWORTH) and I were elect- have talked about tonight is the bipar- the name of their child. ed to Congress. Of course, we were tisan nature of this historically. Think It used to be pretty strict as to what working on the Contract with America, back to recent history. Four decades that education account could be used and a key part of the Contract with ago it was Jack Kennedy who said, let for. Now we have some flexibility. Not America was lowering taxes for fami- us reduce the marginal tax rates; in his only can you contribute more money lies. Of course, part of Contract with words, ‘‘a rising tide lifts all boats.’’ into it, up to $2,000 a year, but it is not America was eliminating the marriage Two decades ago it was President Ron- just for those students, those children tax penalty, creating a new adoption ald Reagan who suggested the same who go to public college. It could be tax credit, creating a new child tax thing, and then just last year, working used for any educational expense for credit. with our current President, George W. any child. It could be K through 12. It Thanks to the leadership of many, Bush, we were able to again enact mar- could be a tutor at school if you are and particularly the gentleman from ginal rate reductions. having trouble with 4th grade math. It Arizona, we created that new adoption Now, here is something, and this is could be a computer program, it could tax credit. Of course, we expand it in one of the things I lament in the way be a foreign language skill or some the Bush tax cut and make it bigger. Washington works. Given the arcana of help in that regard. It can be anything And we created the child tax credit as the budget and the way we predict to help educate our kids. part of the Contract with America, and things here, it is very Washington-cen- So this was a tremendous change, a we have doubled that under the Bush tric. We take a look at what is called a positive change. We called it the Cover- tax cut. If we fail to make it perma- static model. We fail to take into ac- dell account in honor of the late Sen- nent, we lose it. It is taken away. count growth in revenues to the Fed- ator from Georgia who had first cre- I would be happy to yield to the gen- eral Government. It is a historical fact ated this idea back in 1997 of putting tleman from Arizona (Mr. HAYWORTH). that under Jack Kennedy and under aside money and letting the interest Mr. HAYWORTH. Mr. Speaker, I Ronald Reagan, when we reduced the that is built up be tax free. thank my colleague from Illinois, Mr. tax rates, revenues actually increased I hesitate to think, I shudder to Speaker; and I thank my other col- to the Federal Government. think, that if we do not make this tax leagues the Committee on Ways and The gentleman from Arizona in the cut permanent, that that flexibility is Means, the gentleman from Missouri Chair tonight made the point last gone, the ability to contribute money and the gentleman from Wisconsin, for night at the State capital. And, we re- into that education account, up to joining us this evening. call this as members of the Committee $2,000 a year, is gone. In listening to my friend from Mis- on Ways and Means in 1997 when we, So the number of positive tax souri speak about the different oppor- through cheerful persistence, per- changes that we have helped create, in tunities, I was struck by really two suaded a reluctant President to join us a bipartisan way, friends across the themes running through his discourse. in a reduction in the top rate of capital H1318 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 gains taxation, especially for primary 100 million Americans who benefit with our present Federal budget that I residences that cost less than $600,000, from what we call the Bush tax cut and think the American people need to and what that meant to housing starts that, of course, is the fact that there hear. and new home sales and just a change are 3 million Americans who, under the This past August, Secretary of the in the real estate market. Bush tax cut, no longer pay Federal Treasury O’Neill wrote the first of But it was very interesting; the gen- taxes, low-income families. Of course, three letters to Congress requesting an tleman from Arizona, the Speaker pro if we fail to make it permanent, those increase in the debt limit. In these let- tempore tonight, made the point that low-income families are taxed once ters, he asked for a $750 billion in- the forecasters, the estimators said again, and that 79 percent of those who crease. None of these letters, however, that that capital gains rate reduction benefit from the top rate reduction are mentioned how long $750 billion would was going to cost the Federal Govern- small business entrepreneurs. I am keep the Federal Government in the ment. Yet, the reality is in terms of happy to yield the remaining time to clear. More important, none of the let- revenue accrued, it has been a triple- the gentleman from Arizona. ters recognized the irresponsibility in- digit winner. Revenue has been pro- Mr. HAYWORTH. Mr. Speaker, one herent in asking Congress to hand the duced. Why? Because it is a simple no- fact which we should remember and administration a three-quarters of a tion, regardless of party affiliation. which should give every Member of this trillion dollar blank check without The simple fact that the budgeteers do House pause, if we fail to make these also requiring it to explain how we are not want to recognize is this: reduction tax cuts permanent, then a decade going to get back to balanced budgets in tax rates leads to economic activity, hence, we will see the largest tax in- and a Social Security surplus that is leads to job creation, especially when crease in American history eclipsing off limits. we reduce the capital gains rate, leads what we saw in 1993 under former Many of my Blue Dog colleagues to capital formation and the use of cap- President Clinton. have pointed out on past Tuesdays that ital, putting it to work. When we do Mr. WELLER. Mr. Speaker, in clos- the Federal debt limit is a lot like the that in an economy, a people prosper. ing, again, we have a very important credit limit on any credit card used by Indeed, one magazine in town asked vote on Thursday. Thursday morning any American. The difference in this our friends on the left if they were this House of Representatives is going example is that the administration has really concerned about revenues to the to cast a vote on whether or not to hit its credit limit at $5.95 trillion dol- government, perhaps they should join make what we call the Bush tax cut lars, but not indicated a willingness to us in asking for tax reductions because permanent. A vote against permanency examine its own fiscal policies. Few overall revenues increase, based on is a vote for the biggest tax increase in things in life are certain, but I feel con- economic activity. the history of our Nation, or do we con- fident in saying that the average fam- So it is simple self-interest, not self- tinue to help those 100 million Ameri- ily in southern Indiana, if faced with a ishness, but a chance just as President cans who benefit from the Bush tax cut maxed out credit card, would step back Kennedy said in the 1960s, that a rising who see their rates reduced, 3 million for a moment and figure out how he is tide lifts all the boats, and as President Americans who no longer pay taxes, going to pay it off. Reagan said in the 1980s, that people couples such as Jose and Magdalene In early April, Secretary O’Neill sent can save, spend, and invest their Castillo who will no longer pay the another letter to Congress. This time money as they see fit, rather than marriage tax penalty, but if the tax cut he was writing to inform Senate and keeping Washington in charge, or as expires, they will once again, because House leaders that he was tapping Fed- President Bush said in Iowa yesterday: people like the Castillos from Joliette, eral Government retiree accounts, let expand the recovery, take the lesson Illinois will once again pay the mar- me repeat that again, that he was tap- that we learned in the economic down- riage tax penalty. Let us make it per- ping Federal Government retiree ac- turn, and even in the wake of the dark manent. Let us do the right thing. Let counts in order to give the Federal days, in the aftermath of 9–11 and the us prevent the world’s largest tax in- Government the breathing room it uncertainty we confronted then, and crease. needs to continue to meet its spending move to make the marginal tax relief f obligations. and the other provisions that my col- Now, Mr. Speaker, in the private leagues have discussed tonight, Mr. RAISING THE FEDERAL DEBT world, if a business tried to raid its Speaker, move to make that perma- LIMIT pension fund and was found guilty of nent so that we can continue to grow The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. doing that, they would go to jail, but this economy and people will have the JOHNSON of Illinois). Under the Speak- here we are doing a similar thing with freedom and the flexibility to choose er’s announced policy of January 3, government retiree accounts in order what is right for them, and they will 2001, the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. to give the government the breathing not wait upon government programs HILL) is recognized for 60 minutes as room it needs to continue to meet its for improvement, with educational op- the designee of the minority leader. spending obligations. portunities, especially for those chil- Mr. HILL. Mr. Speaker, this evening Six years ago, 225 members of the dren with special needs, with the pur- the Blue Dog Coalition will once again majority party voted to reprimand and chase of a home, with the starting of a be discussing the administration’s re- prohibit then-Secretary of the Treas- business, with the raising of a family; quest that Congress raise the Federal ury, Robert Rubin, from taking these indeed, every facet of American life, debt limit, and that is what we want to same actions. Now, one could argue give people the freedom to recognize talk about this evening. The Blue Dog that the old saying, what is good for the money belongs to them. Coalition, for those who are listening, the goose is good for the gander is in Mr. Speaker, we made substantive is a group of about 30 Democrats who order here. Even if one-quarter of the changes in the Tax Code and it is a believe it is important for the Federal 147 who remain in the House had been start, but we need to follow the call of Government to be fiscally responsible; moved to action by Secretary O’Neill’s our Commander in Chief who asks now in other words, not to spend more recent maneuver, there is little doubt that we finish the job, that we make money than it takes in. I think the in my mind that together we would these rate reductions permanent, so American people, with their families, have already sat down to discuss some that the economic renaissance and the try to practice their own home budgets kind of compromise, a plan to, one, rebuilding and the restoration of our in the same way, and the Blue Dog raise the debt limit enough to get the economic conditions toward greatness Democrats have adopted this principle. government through this fiscal year; can continue. I thank the gentleman. Balancing our budgets helps us keep in- and two, to get our budget back in bal- Mr. WELLER. Mr. Speaker, I would terest rates lower so that businesses ance without relying on Social Secu- be happy to yield some additional time and families can borrow money at rity surpluses. to the gentleman from Arizona, and I lower interest rates. It is the only Historically, partisan squabbling has would like to ask the gentleman from right and common sense thing to do. characterized the debate over whether Arizona a question. We have been not- The Blue Dogs tonight want to talk to increase the Federal debt limit. ing in our conversation here about the about some problems that are going on There are many Blue Dogs, however, April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1319 who would like to put an end to polit- used to help balance the budget country’s recession, have clearly put us ical gamesmanship and get down to through the end of the decade. This is into a circumstance where right now business. We do not believe in political our problem: The elephant is a fiscal we are running a deficit this year. brinkmanship, especially when the house not in order. I do not like deficits and I do not like ability of the United States Govern- Last year, the Blue Dogs presented a debt. I think most members of the Blue ment to continue to meet its lawful fi- plan that was prudent, fiscally respon- Dog Coalition, in fact, I think all mem- nancial obligations is on the line. sible, and dealt with the future of both bers of the Blue Dog Coalition, would No one among us is suggesting that Social Security and Medicare. Our plan agree with me on that. But we recog- the Federal Government be allowed to would have cut taxes and paid down nize that there are times in the short default on its debt. Secretary O’Neill’s the debt. Unfortunately, we were not term where it is appropriate, in ex- recent tapping of the Federal employee successful in passing our plan. traordinary circumstances. Being at retirement funds, however, does not Now we are being asked to green- war, in a recession, it is appropriate to change the fact that we are bumping light an additional three-quarters of a see a deficit. up against the debt ceiling. In fact, ac- trillion dollars in debt to help imple- But just like in the business world, tion is still needed and the Secretary ment the plan that carried the day. there are times when we have a bad now has one less accounting trick up That is too much to ask when we have year and maybe we put more money his sleeve. As of this evening, the ad- not at all yet acknowledged the ele- out than we pay in revenue; but in the ministration has put only one option phant in our midst. business world, if we keep doing that on the table: raise the debt limit by The conventional wisdom here in year after year, we get in trouble. three-quarters of a trillion dollars. Washington is that the long-term in- The problem here is we do not have a That is it; that is the only option. crease in the debt limit will be at- plan yet for how we are going to get In early 2001, it was projected that tached to the supplemental appropria- out of the problem. For the administra- the debt limit would not need raising tions request. This $27 billion supple- tion to request an increase in the debt until 2008. Let me repeat that. In early mental spending request to fund the limit of $750 billion, I have to tell the 2001, last year, it was projected that immediate needs in the war on ter- Members, we throw a lot of numbers the debt limit would not need raising rorism is very obviously important. around in this town, but that is a lot of until 2008. Even though the administra- The war is important, and we need to money. To suggest we raise the limit tion has requested an increase in the fund it. From the beginning of this war by that much without identifying any debt limit far sooner than we expected, campaign, we have been supportive of plan for how we are going to end this there has been no talk about its evalu- doing whatever it takes to make sure pattern of increased deficit spending, ating its own budget policies, no talk our fighting men and women can do that is just not being responsible, and about fashioning a plan to get back to their jobs. But pairing an increase in that is not really what my constituents a balanced budget without using the the debt limit to this important bill is elected me to do. Social Security surpluses, and no talk not necessary. In fact, it could com- I am not here to force this country to that maybe, just maybe, we have a plicate consideration of the supple- face some type of problem that they problem here that needs to be dealt mental request. are not able to pay off their obliga- with. So as members of the Blue Dog Coali- tions. I would be more than happy to The basic Blue Dog position has not tion, we are ready to sit down and work support a short-term limited increase changed. We still say that along with with the administration to come up in our debt limit to accommodate the any action on the debt limit must with a plan to get our budget back in current circumstances we are in, where come a recognition that we have a balance without using Social Security the war on terrorism and the recession problem and a plan to correct that surpluses, and provide for a short-term have clearly put us into a deficit situa- problem. increase in the debt limit. It is time for tion. I will accept that for the short The current budget situation is like all of us, Democrats and Republicans, term. The Blue Dog Coalition is pre- the elephant living in the living room. to roll up our sleeves and get the work pared to support a clean, limited in- He is there and he is larger than life, done. crease in the debt ceiling to accommo- but very few, if any, of our colleagues Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to date that purpose in the short term. on the other side of this aisle, they will yield to the gentleman from the great But what we have to have happen not acknowledge him. Several of my State of Utah (Mr. MATHESON), another along with that is a commitment to sit Blue Dog colleagues and I have been, member of the Blue Dog Coalition, a down and really take on this long-term over the past couple of months, trying new member who has done an out- problem. There are no easy solutions, to alert everyone who will listen, to standing job on the Committee on the as I said at the outset. It is going to re- the elephant’s presence. Rest assured Budget. quire a lot of work, a lot of work by that we will keep coming down here to Mr. MATHESON. Mr. Speaker, I people on both sides of the aisle. the floor and pointing him out until ev- thank my colleague, the gentleman That is why I have to suggest that I eryone acknowledges that he exists and from Indiana, for yielding to me, and am really proud to be part of the Blue he is in the living room. also I appreciate the very good descrip- Dog Coalition, because I think the Blue This elephant, unfortunately, comes tion he has given of the circumstances Dogs really have a reputation for sit- with his own set of numbers. In one we are finding ourselves in. ting down, rolling up their sleeves, and year, the projected 10-year surplus de- This is not an easy circumstance. It putting their plan out on the table. We creased $4 trillion. The Federal Govern- is a challenge we face. The answers to do not try to use a lot of rhetoric, we ment will run a deficit, both this year this challenge are not simple. try to talk about real numbers, and we and next year. Because of these defi- If they were simple, we probably welcome people to sit down with us and cits, the Federal Government will have would have already taken care of it, tell us where we are wrong, because we to borrow money to pay its bills and, but we have not. Instead, we find our- are open to a dialogue and we are open to pay these bills, the government will selves in a circumstance where our to suggestion. I wish more people in borrow almost $2 trillion more this country has a war on terrorism, our the House would take us up on that decade than was expected when the country faces increased requirements offer, because this problem we face CBO published its numbers in January in terms of providing for homeland se- right now is a serious one, and it is one of 2000. curity, and those are issues that we as that is of great concern. Blue Dog members support. We fully I look at this issue, quite frankly, as b 2100 support that effort. I look at a lot of issues, through the All told, by the time the interest We are also in a recession. We are eyes of my 3-year-old son. I try to payments are added in, the national hopefully coming out of that recession think about what life is going to be debt will be almost $3 trillion larger right now. like for him. I think about the extra than earlier projected when the 10-year But those factors, the increased re- burden we are placing on his genera- budget closes. And, to top it all off, So- sources going to the war on terrorism tion as we rack up more and more debt, cial Security surplus dollars will be and to homeland security and our and a bigger slice. H1320 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 Do Members know those pie charts PHELPS) very well for the last going on claim we are going to do. That just is we always see, where that slice of the 4 years now, and he is a man with a dis- not so. pie that represents interest payments tinguished record in the Congress of I want to pay down the public debt, is just going to keep expanding? That the United States, and one of the out- balance the budget, give tax cuts that is not a future I want to leave for my standing Blue Dogs who feels very are affordable and reasonable, as I have son. I do not think it is a future any- strongly about this issue. I yield to the voted, such as repealing the estate tax body in Congress would want to leave gentleman from Illinois (Mr. PHELPS), and the marriage tax penalty, those for the next generation, and that ought a person that I came into Congress that are affordable, and that we can to be the focus that we have right now with back in 1998, and a person who make Social Security then solvent. as we make those decisions. serves on the Committee on Agri- But all of this cannot be done if we When we talk about this debt limit culture and the Committee on the travel down this path and this policy issue, I often like to refer to an experi- Budget. direction. We must be honest with the ence I had before I came to Congress, in Mr. PHELPS. Mr. Speaker, I thank American people, the citizens of this the private sector. I worked developing the gentleman for yielding to me. I Nation, and level with them from the independent power plants, co-genera- thank my friend, the gentleman from standpoint of what is realistic. tion facilities. I developed a couple of Indiana, for his leadership and his per- There is a big price to pay for strong facilities, and each cost $100 million. I sistence on this issue. leadership, and to be responsible. It is had to go out and convince a bank to I would also like to thank my col- not easy, coming before the American lend me money to build those power leagues on the Blue Dog Coalition for people and telling them that those on plants. That bank required me to have giving me the opportunity once again both sides of the aisle emphasized the a story that I could tell them, a story to speak on this important issue. point just this time last year that the about how, over the long run, they We, as the fiscal policy leaders of this Social Security money and the Medi- were going to get their money back. great Nation, have a responsibility to care trust fund were in a lockbox, That makes sense. We can all relate look out for future generations. How locked away where we would not touch to that. Whether we have been in the can we say that we are doing our best it. But now we are saying that we have business world and had to borrow a to look out for our children when we enough money to do all this by pro- business loan, or whether we have are not keeping our commitment to jecting 10 years in the future the taken out a home mortgage or a car save the Social Security and Medicare rosiest forecasts that reflect the best loan, we have to pass a test. We have to trust fund surpluses? the economy ever has been in our his- be able to have a story about how I We need to be fiscally responsible. tory, without acknowledging what has have the capability to pay that back. My Blue Dog colleagues and I realize happened to us after September 11, and We are being asked to raise this debt that. That is why we are spending without acknowledging the loss limit $750 billion, and we do not have these hours and these weeks trying to through the recession and the tax cuts that story. We are here as Members of drive this point home. that we did a year or so ago. Congress. We are the banker here. We It should not be hard for others to Now we are talking that we can do have to represent the people’s interest understand that, as well. Fiscal respon- all of this, keep it solvent, and still in making sure there is a story about sibility does not mean raising the debt look the public in the face and say we how this is going to be paid back. Until limit when we are already in debt by are being honest about the budget. we have that, it is just not responsible. $5.9 trillion. Fiscal responsibility does This is not so. It is my responsibility It is not responsible to raise this by not mean tapping into the Social Secu- to tell the truth, because I did not take $750 billion. rity trust fund to support other govern- it lightly when I took that oath of of- So I am so pleased that the Blue Dog ment programs every year for the next fice and said that I would deal with the Coalition has made this an issue. We 10 years, for a total of $1.5 trillion. Fis- facts as I see them and the truth as I keep coming here to the floor to raise cal responsibility means working to- know it. this issue, because we are looking for gether as a team on both sides of the That is why I feel so strongly about people to work with. We are looking for aisle to get the budget back in check this issue tonight, and want to commu- an opportunity to sit down and roll up without tampering with our Social Se- nicate it in the best terms possible. It our sleeves. curity surplus. is a complex situation, but we must We recognize the magnitude of this I completely understand that our Na- face it. This is your money, too. We problem and the complexity of this tion is in a different place than we said we should save it for the purpose problem. There is no easy way out. We were 7 months ago, and we need to be for which you gave it, not say it is a cannot do it alone, so we call on every- effective and properly fight this war on tax return that we can ignore, building body on both sides of the aisle: Please, terrorism. I believe we are. We stand up the debt at the same time, and let us sit down, let us develop a long- behind this President and his Cabinet never communicate truthfully. term plan. Let us not be irresponsible to do this. Mr. HILL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the and just give a blank check to Congress However, we should be able to come gentleman from Illinois for his re- and to the administration to rack up up with a solution that battles the war marks. He is exactly right, that this is another $750 billion of debt with no against terrorism without taking away people who paid their payroll taxes. It way out of that pattern. from crucial resources here at home, is their money, and we should be mak- Mr. HILL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the resources that our citizens depend on ing sure that we preserve it for them in gentleman from Utah for an out- and resources that our children are their retirement years, and not be standing presentation. counting on us to protect. Social Secu- using it for other things. One of the things that I heard the rity funds belong to the people that gentleman talking about was that we paid them out of their own hard-earned b 2115 are not opposed to raising the debt dollars, just like they have all the I would like to call on one of the ceiling. There is a war going on, and other taxes they have paid. deans of the Blue Dog Coalition, a man there are certain responsibilities that I have heard much around here about I have really come to respect very we have to think about. That is one of giving back money to the taxpayers. much. He is a leader on this issue, lead- them. These are their dollars they have en- er on the Committee on Ways and But one of the reasons why I like the trusted us, their government leaders, Means, a leader for the Congress of the Blue Dogs so much is they are a group to save for the purpose for which they United States. So I would like to yield of Democrats that are responsible. It is were intended. But there are those some time to the gentleman from Ten- responsible to raise the debt ceiling to around here who want the taxpayers to nessee (Mr. TANNER). fight the war, but it is also our respon- believe that there is enough money to Mr. TANNER. Mr. Speaker, I come sibility to have some kind of a plan. return taxes from the same source tonight to talk about debt. That seems Right now, there is no plan. twice, and then try to convince them to be the topic of the day, and I have Mr. Speaker, I have come to know that Social Security can remain sol- got to tell my colleagues, I watched the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. vent and do all this other good stuff we the previous hour and I was thinking April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1321 all of the time I was watching that and those who follow us for the rest of have got to have the revenue to pay for these are the same folks that last year their lives and ours, then just follow what we want. If we are not willing to touted the tax plan as presented and down this road and borrow more money do that, then I think we are now tonight say, oh, no, it is terrible and borrow more money, and we will generationally immoral with regard to because it was not permanent. We were make sure, we will make very sure that what we are giving to our children. criticized last year, but let me talk we are overtaxed and they are over- I appreciate the gentleman taking about what is happening in this coun- taxed as follows. this time. I do not know if anybody is try. This is something that they do not listening to what we are saying or not, My colleagues are seeing a group, a say. Nikita Khrushchev once said that but when we have got an 18 or 16 per- minority within a minority really, the an American politician is a fellow that cent mortgage on this country and we Blue Dog Democrats, my colleagues are likes to promise to build a dam or a do not make any attempt to get back seeing a group emerge from all of the bridge where there is no river. This is in the black, I think what we are doing rhetoric here in this town, partisan not easy stuff, to stand here and say to is passing the buck, and I think that is rhetoric. They are seeing a group the American public we cannot do what wrong. emerge that has some credibility on some of these people around here want Mr. HILL. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming the debt. What was missing and what is to tell them that we can do. my time, would the gentleman agree missing and what will be missing on We cannot spend the money that is that it was just a couple of years ago Thursday morning when we talk about necessary to win and fight, fight and when we began to reverse this trend of making the tax cut bill that the House win the war on terrorism. We cannot debt, the United States Government in- passed last year and the Senate passed cut taxes for everybody in this land curring debt, we were actually running last year permanent, what they do not right now and spend that money with- a surplus, and would he agree within a say is that we have right now in, and out borrowing money to do it, and very short period of time, say within the citizens of this country right now when we do, we are making a mistake the last 12 months, we have completely last year paid $360 billion in interest on that I think generations will pay for reversed that policy of surplus budgets a revenue total of $1.991 trillion. This because that interest keeps going, into deficit spending once again? comes out of a CBO publication of whether someone is on vacation, Mr. TANNER. Mr. Speaker, I would March of this year. whether someone is sleeping, whatever agree, but whether I agree or not, I That is an 18 percent mortgage on they are doing they have got to pay the think the facts speak for themselves. this country. There is no business in interest. Last year at that time we were told the world, in America or anywhere else People know that and so I am proud there was money as far as the eye that I know of, that can withstand an that the Blue Dogs took this hour to could see. We had a $5 trillion surplus. 18 percent mortgage on their inven- talk about fiscal responsibility. There That did not come true. tory, on what they are doing in terms has not been in my mind a sitting down The budget that the President sub- of their business. If we take away the and talking about prioritizing what we mitted shows red ink for the next 10 interest on the debt that was paid as have to do. We have got to win the war years. Once this interest figure gets up far as Social Security goes, we have a on terrorism. Whatever it takes, we 20, 25 percent, I have never seen a coun- net total of $206 billion, which on non- have got to do it. We are willing to do try that was proud, free and broke. Social Security revenue, amounts to 16 that, but by gosh, to cut taxes on There is not one on the face of the percent. Said another way, this coun- somebody making $50 million a year at earth, and we are going broke under try right today has a 16 percent mort- the same time my colleagues are try- these policies, and people are going to gage on it that we all have to pay. ing to ask everybody else to sacrifice is begin to realize that I think that, un- Now, if we want to ensure and people simply not right. It is not right like maybe public perception now, at want us to ensure that not only those generationally. least when it comes to the Blue Dog that are my age but my children and We do not want to leave this country Coalition, there are some Democrats my grandchildren will be overtaxed all to our children with rivers and streams around here that are more fiscally and of their lives and all of the foreseeable that fish cannot live in and kids cannot financially responsible than all the Re- future, then keep us on the road of the swim in. We do not want that. We did publicans who want to tell my col- Republican policies that have been not inherit that and we sure do not leagues, as they have, we are going to enunciated here and will be enunciated want to leave it. We do not want to cut taxes, increase spending, but they here Thursday, and that basically is we leave a country where kids have to do not say more borrowing, and more are going to spend more because we are wear a hospital mask to ride their bi- borrowing means more interest, and in a war, which we should. We are cycle because the air is so polluted more interest means more taxes from going to do a tax break for those of us that they cannot breathe unless they now on, forever. in my generation passing on to those have a mask on. We did not inherit Mr. HILL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the who are in uniform tonight in Afghani- that, and we do not want to leave that. gentleman for his leadership on this stan, fighting the war and their chil- We did not inherit a country that was issue. The gentleman from Tennessee dren. We are going to borrow money so broke, and I do not want to leave my can say it just about as good as any- that we can have a tax break to spend kids a country that is broke. body in the Congress can say it, and he more money, knowing we have an 18 If we continue down the path we are is exactly right, and his leadership on percent or 16 percent, whichever figure going, where we are spending more, this issue is very much appreciated. we want to use, mortgage on this coun- cutting revenue, and borrowing more I would like to call on a freshman try. so we pay more interest, that is ex- Member of Congress who has asserted If people want to make sure that we actly the formula that we have been himself as a rising star in the Congress are going to be overtaxed as an Amer- asked to pass, and I just think it is of the United States, the gentleman ican public for the rest of our lives, wrong. I think it is wrong from California, (Mr. SCHIFF). then continue down the Republican generationally, not only to people, our Mr. SCHIFF. Mr. Speaker, I thank policies. Because what it means is it contemporaries, but it is wrong to our the gentleman from Indiana for yield- means cut taxes now, spend more and children, and I hope that we can, the ing and for his leadership and the bi- borrow, and borrowing means interest Blue Dogs and others who are here with partisan ethic he has brought to this and that interest has got to be paid be- us tonight, can impress on the Amer- House, which has certainly been a fore we do anything, before we have a ican people that it is not easy to be model for this freshman. missile system, before we have a sub- against tax cuts. Once again, I join my Blue Dog col- marine, before we have an aircraft car- It is not easy to be against more leagues on the House floor tonight to rier, before we have an interstate high- spending, but there has to be priorities bring attention to an issue that has way. Before we have anything, we have given to what we need, and we are will- long-term implications for our Nation’s got to pay the interest. ing to cut and cut spending any way we future. The administration has come to If my colleagues want to make sure can to make sure that we are doing the Congress asking us to raise the debt that we are going to overtax ourselves things only that are necessary, but we limit by $750 billion. This request H1322 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 comes to us a full 7 years earlier than years. Social Security is the most suc- Mr. Speaker, 1 year ago President was predicted when the budget was cessful government assistance program Bush and congressional Republicans submitted just last year. ever. Millions of senior citizens rely on promised us that we could have it all. The request to raise the debt limit it to survive. Millions of working They said we could afford the largest presents us with an ideal opportunity Americans are currently paying Social tax cut in a generation and still be able to re-examine our long-term budget Security taxes, expecting their money to invest in domestic priorities, priorities and particularly our commit- to be used for its intended purpose, and strengthen Social Security and Medi- ment to protecting the Social Security we understand that we are now faced care, and pay off our publicly held surplus. with the challenges of fighting a war debt. When we Democrats questioned Perhaps second only to the hanging and bringing our country out of this whether we could afford the President’s chad, the enduring political buzz word economic slowdown. $1.7 trillion tax cut, and that is absent of the 2000 election, was ‘‘lock box.’’ It We have accepted this reality and we the additional interest we have to pay, seems almost quaint now to think back are willing to work together to develop which the gentleman from Tennessee about lock box, but this Congress and fiscal policies that reflect our wartime (Mr. TANNER) talked about, and still the President promised the American needs, protect the Social Security pay down the debt, our Republican col- people that the Social Security trust trust fund and set our country back on leagues responded there was a danger fund surplus would be placed in an iron the path toward fiscal responsibility. in paying off the publicly held debt too clad box and used solely to fund the re- quickly. b 2130 tirement of the baby boom generation. Well, worry no more because we are Do my colleagues remember that? Mr. Speaker, while we examine the not in any hurry to pay off any debt. In Democrats and Republicans all agreed need to increase the national debt, we fact, we are in a hurry to incur a lot on this. The inviolable lock box. must tread carefully and remain con- more debt. The OMB now projects that Here we are now with a budget that stantly aware of the burden we are our national debt, which includes pub- promises to break that lock box wide placing on future generations because licly held and intergovernmental debt, open regardless of the long-term fiscal this debate is about more than our cur- will approach $7.8 trillion by the end of consequences. rent economic situation. It is about 2007. That is $275 billion more debt Social Security faces a serious finan- what we will pass on to our children than was projected at the beginning of cial crisis, and this budget would do and to their children. We must con- last year. Just this month after con- away with the lock box entirely and tinue to work in a bipartisan way to gressional Republicans again rebuffed allow the surplus to be raided to pay return to a balanced budget and fiscal the request of the Secretary of Treas- for tax cuts and additional Federal discipline without using the Social Se- ury, Mr. O’Neill, to increase the statu- spending. The primary source of the curity surplus. This is a promise we tory debt limit of $5.59 trillion by $750 Social Security revenue is the payroll make, and a promise we must keep. million, the administration was forced tax paid by millions of American work- Mr. HILL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the to borrow Federal employee retirement ers and their employers. gentleman from California (Mr. SCHIFF) funds to ensure that the government According to the 2001 Social Security for his outstanding remarks and his meets its obligations. In other words, trustee’s report, Social Security out- leadership. Federal employees’ pension dollars are lays will exceed payroll tax revenues in The gentleman was talking about So- now funding government. The gen- less than 14 years. By 2025 Social Secu- cial Security and how important it is tleman from Indiana (Mr. HILL) spoke rity will face an annual cash shortfall and how we need to preserve it for our of that earlier in his remarks. of $400 billion. An annual cash shortfall senior citizens and to protect it. I was Do Members remember the last time of $400 billion. By 2038, the last year in Columbus, Indiana, in a retirement that happened? It was back in 1995, and the trust funds are technically solvent, home about a month ago; and I was the GOP was blocking an increase in the annual shortfall will be over a tril- talking to some retirees in that home. the debt ceiling in an attempt to get lion dollars. One of the senior citizens spoke up to President Clinton to sign their budget. Despite these ominous numbers, the me and asked a question, Where does Treasury Secretary Rubin used the administration’s budget, according to Social Security come from? My reply same short-term device that Secretary the Office of Management and Budget, to her, It comes from payroll taxes. O’Neill is using to avoid a default. How will consume the entire trust fund sur- And she said, Who pays the payroll did congressional Republicans respond? plus in just a few years. This debate is taxes? And I said, People who work and They reprimanded him. They threat- not about whether Social Security employers. ened to impeach the Secretary of needs reform. It does. This debate is She said, What gives the right for Treasury, and former Speaker Gingrich not about whether preserving the trust people in Congress to steal our money derided the tactic as ‘‘looting.’’ The fund surplus will save Social Security then if we pay the taxes? She is exactly gentleman referred to stealing Social in the long term. It will not. right. If we are spending Social Secu- Security funds. Mr. Gingrich, the This debate is about common sense rity surpluses for things other than So- Speaker of the House, said that what and fiscal responsibility. It is common cial Security, we are in effect stealing Bob Rubin was doing so we would not sense that we should not in any way that money. Strong words on her part default in the payment of the monies consider tampering with the trust fund that makes some sense. that the richest Nation on the face of before Congress agrees to and passes At that same meeting was a good the earth owed, that he was prepared to Social Security reform legislation. friend of mine who is going to be the say that he was looting the Treasury. Spending the surplus will leave our next Speaker, the gentleman from I have not heard one Republican children holding the bag. They will Maryland (Mr. HOYER), who is the come to this floor and say that Sec- have to pay for the unfunded obliga- ranking member of the Committee on retary Paul O’Neill is looting the tions that build up in the Social Secu- House Administration, and the other Treasury. Now, I represent 58,000 Fed- rity trust fund if we spend the surplus, night his basketball team from Mary- eral employees. I do not think we and to pay for these obligations, the land beat my basketball team from In- ought to be doing this policy; but Treasury will step in, pay the entitle- diana University. And if there was frankly, we have an obligation to pay ment, and to come up with that cash, going to be any team that beat the it back, and I think we are going to do Congress will have to cut spending, Hoosiers, I would just as soon it be the that. But the fact of the matter is if raise taxes, or borrow even more as if team of the gentleman from Maryland. Secretary O’Neill did not do it, this the trust funds had never existed, and Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank government would default on its debt. our children will pay the consequences. the gentleman for yielding and for If that happened, the finances of the They will have to deal with our lack of being such a great sport and a rep- world would be put at risk. fiscal responsibility. resentative of such a great team with Republicans, when Secretary O’Neill This Congress cannot afford to take such a great coach with Mike Davis, did it, neither criticized the adminis- such a risk in light of the fiscal chal- their coach handling himself so well. tration for doing precisely the same lenges that we face in the next 10 We are proud of the job he did. thing that Secretary Rubin had done, April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1323 and which sent them in orbit 7 years in 1992 we had a $292 billion annual op- should. We are in lock step with our ago, nor accede to an increase in the erating deficit. We could not, nor President in confronting those who debt ceiling. In other words, they do should we have sustained that. So we would undermine our security and safe- not want to make sure that we do not came in in 1993, and we adopted a pro- ty in this land, and, very frankly, in default, and they do not want to raise gram. It cut spending deeply and it other lands as well. the debt. That is the definition of irre- raised taxes. Some people would say However, the Social Security and sponsibility. That is the definition of that is an awful thing to do. What does Medicare surpluses which were critical, pretending you are doing something raising taxes mean? I do not mean rais- as the gentleman from Texas (Mr. when you are doing just the opposite. ing them in terms of increasing them. ARMEY) said, and would not be touched, My good friend, the gentleman from It means this generation is committed are in fact going to be used 100 percent. Tennessee (Mr. TANNER) said it exactly to paying for what it buys. I have some other things to say about right. If we defaulted, interest rates My position is if we do not want to this policy, but I want to close with would skyrocket. Average people, no pay for it, we ought not to buy it. I do this. David Stockman in 1981 became matter how deeply their taxes were not mean that we ought not to buy an director of the Office of Management cut, could not afford their mortgage aircraft carrier that we can amortize and Budget. over 40 years. It is like buying a house, payment, particularly if they were an b 2145 ARM, an adjustable mortgage. They you mortgage it and pay it over time. could not afford to buy consumer goods We ought not to be paying for salaries He came in with a roar, like March, with interest because interest rates that are used this year with borrowed I suppose, and he was going to see that would skyrocket. That would be an ir- money. That is how New York went this budget was balanced. In fact, Ron- responsible policy, but it is the policy bankrupt and we had to bail them out. ald Reagan, when he signed the Reagan that we are pursuing today. We need to be responsible. program in 1981 said the budget is In what can only be described as a There is an extraordinary American going to be balanced by October of 1983. perverse twist, House Republicans in- sitting on the floor with us. He is the Or perhaps it was 1984. tend to bring legislation to the floor in gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. In any event, it did not happen. Mr. 2 days that will make last year’s tax OSBORNE), one of the greatest football Stockman, of course, was the director cut permanent and drive us even deeper coaches in the history of this country. of OMB the same year I was elected to into the fiscal ditch. He taught his young people fundamen- Congress. His mandate, sell President Mr. Speaker, I am not a Blue Dog; tals. He did not teach them to make Reagan’s supply side economic pro- but I support much of what the Blue some hail Mary pass, he hoped that gram. President Reagan assured us, as Dogs support, particularly as it relates would happen from time to time. What I said, that by fiscal 1984 we were going to fiscal policy. Why? Because it is fun- he taught them was how to block, how to balance the budget. We did not. In- damental that if we do not manage our to tackle, how to run, how to watch stead of producing increased revenue, finances responsibly, we will not man- what the other fellow was doing, how the Reagan tax program threw us into age anything else responsibly. In just to learn your plays. He taught the fun- fiscal freefall. The budget deficit, just 15 months, our Nation has experienced damentals. He was convinced if those under $79 billion in 1981, exploded until, the worst fiscal reversal in the history young people knew the fundamentals, as I said before, peaking at $290 billion of the world; $5 trillion in projected they would win games. Because, as in 1992. As David Stockman himself surpluses have evaporated. Think of Gary Williams knows, as Coach Smith later admitted, and I quote, David that. President Bush stood at this po- knows, if you teach young people the Stockman, OMB director, ‘‘I knew that dium 12 months ago in February of 2001 fundamentals, they will win games be- we were on the precipice of triple digit and predicted, he said he was assured cause they will do it right. And some- deficits, a national debt in the trillions we were going to have a $5.6 trillion times, yes, they will do something and destructive and profound disloca- surplus over the next 10 years. We said spectacular. tions throughout the American econ- you better be careful. That is a long But a nation, a nation needs to pay omy.’’ projection to make. You ought not to attention to its fundamentals as well. David Stockman, in his book, looked mortgage the farm based on what you Do any of my colleagues in this Cham- back on his service with lament be- think your income is going to be 6, 7, 8 ber remember what the majority leader cause he knew where we were going. years from now. said last July? I talked about the My friends, it is clear where we are A month ago President Bush came to President 12 months ago. Last July the going if we continue to pursue these that same podium, presented a budget, gentleman from Texas (Mr. ARMEY), policies. What the Blue Dogs are saying and lo and behold the surplus he now majority leader of this House: ‘‘We is that we need to work together, not projects over that same 10 years is $1.6 must understand that it is inviolate to Republicans and Democrats, but 435 of trillion. That is $4 trillion less. What intrude against either Social Security us, elected by our people, to respon- he does not factor into that is because or Medicare; and if that means fore- sibly manage their country, their dol- we have less surplus and are going into going, or as it were paying for tax cuts, lars, their hard-earned wages. We need debt, we are going to have an addi- then we will do that,’’ said the gen- to commit ourselves to doing that. I tional $1 trillion in interest. We heard tleman from Texas (Mr. ARMEY). commend the Blue Dogs for their lead- the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. We are now some 9 months later. On ership on this most critical funda- TANNER) talking about that, which Thursday, we are not going to do that. mental responsibility of this Congress. means we have lost $5 trillion in 12 In our budget that we passed, not with Mr. HILL. I thank the gentleman months. my vote, just a few weeks ago, we did from Maryland for that strong presen- I wish Ross Perot would start having not do that. We preached fundamen- tation. The gentleman has been in the infomercials on that issue. It is crit- tals, but we are not playing fundamen- Congress for quite some time and has ical. We cannot operate this great Na- tals. And the losers will not be, frank- an historical appreciation for the tion with our responsibilities to our ly, any of us who sit on this floor. It events as they have unfolded on this own citizens, and in the international will be our children and grandchildren, particular issue. His presentation was community, operating as fiscally irre- and it will be the fiscal integrity of an exposure of the truth. That is what sponsibly as that. Five trillion dollars. this great Nation. we need more of in this institution. I Our debt is climbing again, and accord- That promise turned out to be as just cannot say enough about that ing to the Congressional Budget Office, empty as the GOP’s lockbox stunt last strong presentation. I am glad that our on-budget accounts will be in def- year. The rally is that the Republican though he is not a Blue Dog Democrat, icit every year for the next 10 years, tax cut is the single largest factor in he has the same feelings that we do producing a total on-budget deficit of erasing our surpluses. Do we need to about this issue and I appreciate his nearly $2 trillion. pay for the war on terrorism? Abso- comments. Now, the gentleman from Indiana lutely. Is it going to cost us more Another Member who is not a Blue (Mr. HILL) talked about our policies in money than we expected? Yes. Should Dog Democrat is the gentleman from the 1990s. They are instructive because we follow that policy? Of course we Wisconsin (Mr. KIND). He has asked to H1324 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 have a few minutes to share with us low-income Americans, because of the pened a year ago, the water, the irriga- about this very important issue. I yield additional expense it will take for tion water for 1,400 farmers was cut off to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. them to borrow money, whether it is abruptly. KIND). for home payments or car or credit Of course, what this did was to cause Mr. KIND. I thank the gentleman card payments or to invest capital in a great deal of financial hardship. from Indiana (Mr. HILL) for not only businesses. It is the long-term interest There were two types of suckers in grabbing this hour for an important rates we need to keep an eye on. Klamath Lake, and coho salmon in the conversation and debate that we are The best thing we can do as an insti- river below that were supposedly to be going to be having later this week but tution here is to maintain sound fiscal protected. As a result, the farmers lost for the leadership that he has particu- policy, reduce the national debt which their crops, some lost their farms, land larly shown on fiscal responsibility, will help reduce those long-term inter- values declined from $2,500 an acre to maintaining fiscal discipline. He has est rates and really set us on the $35 per acre in that particular area. Or- been very active in both the Blue Dog course for long-term economic pros- egon State University estimates that and also the coalition of which I am a perity. This is a serious issue. One of the loss of water cost the economy $134 member, the New Democratic Coali- the concerns I have is that the major- million in that particular area. And so tion. We have a lot of overlap in the ity party in the House and the party at this was a tremendously costly and a membership between our two groups, the White House right now are pur- very invasive situation that occurred. Of course, to make matters worse, re- and it is because we are basically fiscal suing policies that are not enabling our cently the National Academy of soulmates. country to best position ourselves for Science, in an independent peer review, When it comes to the issues affecting the challenges of the future. That is ruled that there was insufficient data the public purse, the Federal budget, what has to change. to justify the decision to shut off the both of our groups, the New Dems and I think people back home are begin- irrigation water in the Klamath Basin. the Blue Dogs, believe very strongly in ning to realize that the tax cut that In other words, they have more or less maintaining fiscal discipline, keeping was enacted last year is being financed said that this was something that our eye on taxpayer dollars, trying to now through the collection of payroll should not have happened. Factors promote policies that will best position taxes, FICA taxes, additional moneys other than the lower levels in Klamath this Nation to deal with the challenges that are supposed to be going in and of the future, which to me seems the Lake were endangering the sucker fish guarded in the Social Security and and actually the larger releases of looming budget debt and the implosion Medicare trust funds, but which are that is about to occur starting next water, the irrigation water that nor- now being raided in order to finance mally went down the irrigation canals, decade. Of course I am referring to the these tax cuts. If anyone last year 77 million Americans who are all was released down the Klamath River would have been told that this would supposedly to help the coho salmon and marching virtually simultaneously to be the reality, that we would be pass- their retirement, the so-called baby actually because this water was warm- ing tax cuts for some Americans and er, the National Academy of Science boom generation, who will start enter- paying for it through the collection of indicated that these larger releases ac- ing into the Social Security and Medi- payroll taxes that are supposed to be tually harmed the coho salmon. So it care trust funds. going into these trust funds, they was the reverse of what they had tried Yet this week we are going to have a would have thought it was crazy eco- very important policy debate in re- to accomplish. nomic policy to pursue. But given the Secondly, more recently, in a con- gards to whether or not this Nation economic slowdown, the change of gressional hearing, we heard from peo- will have the resources to deal with the events of last September, that is, in ple from Fish and Wildlife and the For- greatest fiscal challenge we face, that fact, the situation. est Service and these officials were is, this aging population and the bur- I think it is time for groups like the asked to testify, because seven employ- den it will place on the Social Security Blue Dog Coalition and the New Demo- ees of these agencies and a Washington program, the burden it will place with cratic Coalition to stand up and start State agency also falsely planted Cana- rising health care costs and how do we making an issue of this. I commend the dian lynx hair in the forests of Wash- maintain some common sense and fis- gentleman from Indiana (Mr. HILL) for ington and Oregon. You might ask, cal discipline to deal with that. his leadership and for the time he was why in the world would somebody do I am very concerned. It is almost like able to get this evening to talk about this? Why would you go out and bother deja vu all over again, pursuing the this very important issue. to take hair from a captive lynx and policies of the 1980s where we had large Mr. HILL. I thank the gentleman plant it in widespread areas? Appar- tax cuts being proposed and enacted from Wisconsin for joining us here this ently this would result in a wider dec- which left us in annual structural defi- evening. laration of critical habitat for the Ca- cits year after year, adding to the $5.7 f nadian lynx and they must have felt in trillion national debt that we now have ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT some way that this would have helped rather than maintaining the fiscal dis- preserve the Canadian lynx. cipline which was needed. For me, and The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Obviously, it was a falsehood and, ac- I believe for a lot of people in this Con- JOHNSON of Illinois). Under the Speak- cording to testimony, others within gress, one of the keys to future eco- er’s announced policy of January 3, government agencies were aware of the nomic growth and prosperity, and it is 2001, the gentleman from Nebraska planted lynx hair and did not report it. something we hear constantly from (Mr. OSBORNE) is recognized for 60 min- The interesting thing was that after all Chairman Greenspan when he is testi- utes. of this happened, the guilty parties fying, is keep your eyes on the effect Mr. OSBORNE. Mr. Speaker, I rep- were subjected to counseling as a pun- fiscal policy has on long-term interest resent a very large rural area in Ne- ishment, and most of them received rates. They have consistently testified, braska. Ninety-seven percent of this their year-end bonuses and raises. And and the history of fiscal policy shows, district is privately owned. Currently so you would think, well, what kind of that when you start racking up deficits landowners are very concerned about a message are we sending if somebody again, adding to the national debt property rights and they are especially falsifies data and yet practically no rather than subtracting from it, having concerned about the Endangered Spe- consequences occur as a result of that the public sector squeezing the private cies Act, because this Act can be tre- falsification? sector for the limited resources in mendously invasive. Recently, the National Park Service order to finance ongoing government Currently, I believe there is a crisis also indicated some false and inflated operations, it has an adverse effect on of confidence regarding the administra- numbers of visitors to national forests the bond market and it leads to long- tion of the Endangered Species Act. I from an actual count of 209 million term interest rates going up rather am going to mention just a few things visitors to our national forests, and than coming down, which is a hidden here that have happened that have led they reported 920 million visitors tax then on all Americans, whether to this crisis of confidence. First of all, which was roughly a 400 percent in- they are wealthy or middle-income or the Klamath Basin situation that hap- crease, an inflation, that was false. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1325 Again you might ask, why in the world The interesting thing here is that to this, requires 417,000 acre feet of would a responsible Federal agency do water generally is lost to irrigation, water. That is about triple what we are this? They certainly can count better because you do not irrigate that early talking about here, 140,000 acre feet. So than this. Certainly this could not be a in the spring, and some of it is lost to when you get up to 417,000 acre feet of mathematical error to miss by 700 mil- power generation as well, and it was water, you are talking about prac- lion visitors. Again I think, many as- strictly put there to enhance the habi- tically all of the irrigation water used sume that this had something to do tat for the whooping crane. in the Platte River system. So what with the fact that they wanted to point It was interesting, because the origi- farmers and ranchers are rightly con- out overcrowding, and that maybe nal recommendation by many biolo- cerned about is that at some point the some more roads or some more areas of gists was not 2,400 cubic feet per sec- Endangered Species Act could be used the parks needed to be restricted to ond, but rather they said 1,300 cubic in a way that would cut off all irriga- visitors because of overcrowding. feet per second would be the ideal flow. tion up and down the Platte River, And so many of these different situa- By tweaking it one way or another, which is several hundred miles long, tions have led to somewhat of a crisis Fish and Wildlife almost doubled the and would probably make the Klamath of confidence in terms of how our pub- flow and the amount of water that goes Basin situation pale by comparison. lic officials are dealing with the En- down the river. They wanted 1,200 cubic So far the estimated total cost of the dangered Species Act and our wildlife feet per second during the summer, and project, that is just to the cooperative in general. It would seem that some- then they want pulse flows of 12,000 to agreement, it is not the water loss or times there is not a real level playing 16,000 cubic feet per second for 5 days in anything else, just to plan it is $160 field involved in this situation. May and June of wet years. million. That is just to create it, as we Recently here in Washington, D.C., This is a huge amount of water in the said. That is a small cost compared to the Environmental Protection Agency Platte River, and it results in some the cost of the irrigation water, the gave the Corps of Engineers permission flooding; and it results in some real dif- power lost and the land and sediment to dump thousands of tons of sludge ficult situations. Some people assume dumping and so on. into the Potomac River. Of course this that actually the main issue here is So I think most people would say the was in direct violation, you would that it deepens the channels in the cooperative agreement has been time- think, of the Endangered Species Act river when you have these large pulse consuming, has been expensive and has because the sturgeon, the short-nosed flows, and then the issue is what do been burdensome to landowners. And, sturgeon, occupies the Potomac River you do to compensate for the loss of the most important thing, the thing I and it is endangered. And so you would sediment in the river when you do this? would really like to drive home to- say, why would they do this? How in Now, the problem with those pulse night, is the idea that the whole thing, the world could you get by with this flows is as follows: the 12,000 to 16,000 I believe, is based on a false premise; when out in the West you cannot do cubic feet per second as we mentioned and the false premise is that that 56- these other things? And, of course, it will deepen the channel in the river mile stretch of the Platte River is crit- also caused beavers and ducks and oth- and will remove sediment. So Nebraska ical for the existence of the whooping ers to be mucked up to the point where is being, as part of their contribution crane. they had a hard time surviving. It to the cooperative agreement, is being So let us take a look at the map of would appear that maybe one of the an- asked to contribute 100,000 acre feet of Nebraska. The area here in red, from swers is that these tons of sludge, if water, stored in Lake McConahay; and Lexington to Grand Island, is the crit- they are not pumped into the Potomac this water is being used to flow down ical habitat for the whooping crane, River, would have to be put in dump the Platte River when people feel the really not quite that far. So the idea of trucks and would be trucked through cranes might need it. Wyoming con- critical habitat is this is habitat that the city of Washington, D.C., which is tributes 34,000 acre feet of water and it is removed or in some way damaged not real politically popular in this Colorado 10,000 acre feet of water, so or changed; it really does great damage area. the total contribution is 140,000 acre to the endangered species. So you So sometimes people in rural areas feet of water. So that is an interesting would assume that this would be an have the feeling that maybe there is a premise, and it is fairly expensive. area that would really be critical to double standard and maybe people in Of course, the other issue is there are the migration of the whooping crane as some urban areas because of the size of some other requirements, and that is they go north and south. the population and the economic im- that there are no new depletions in the So let us take a look at this issue pact do not pay quite the same price. Platte River. So we not only have and some of the data. The Watershed And so that has been a concern. these flows, but within 3 to 4 miles of Program director, who worked for the And then the issue that I want to either side of the Platte River, you Whooping Crane Trust, this was an en- spend most of my time tonight on has cannot set down a new well within 3 to vironmental group, not a farm group, to do with the Central Platte River in 4 miles of the river after 1997. So a this was an environmental group, and the State of Nebraska. In 1978, 56 miles community that is expanding, a farm- he worked for that group for 17 years of the Central Platte were declared er, whatever, is no longer able to do and wrote a document filed on March critical habitat for the whooping crane. this. 22, 2000, that was sent to Fish and Wild- At that time in 1978 there were not Then the sediment that is lost in the life, and the letter states as follows: very many cranes, whooping cranes, river from the large pulse flows has to ‘‘From 1970 through 1998, that is a total probably less than 50. And so they were be replaced. At one time what they of 29 years, 11 years there were no listed as an endangered species and cer- were doing was talking about the fact whooping cranes.’’ tainly rightly so. At the present time that they would haul in 100 dump That is almost 40 percent of the time they are doing better. There are rough- truckloads of sediment per day, and there were no whooping cranes that ly 175 whooping cranes that fly gen- this would go on for years and years were sighted at any point in this erally through the State of Nebraska. and years. You can imagine the cost of stretch of river, which is supposedly And so as a result of that designation, doing this. That is supposed to replace critical habitat. You would think if we find that some things occurred. the sediment that these large pulse that was critical habitat, that cer- flows used to take sediment out of the tainly you would not go 40 percent of b 2200 river. the years without any observation of a As a result, in order to protect habi- Now they have revised that, and they whooping crane in that area. tat, critical habitat, for the whooping are talking about taking bulldozers Then he goes on to say this: ‘‘On av- crane, the Platte River Cooperative and pushing islands into the river and erage, less than 1 percent of the popu- Agreement began to take shape. What causing more sediment. So as you can lation of whooping cranes was ever they proposed in this agreement was see, this is a very invasive procession; confirmed in the Platte Valley during in-stream flows. So what was required it is a very expensive process; and it that same time frame.’’ was 2,400 cubic feet per second of water has been very difficult to administer. So, again, if it is critical habitat, you down the Platte River in that area of That is phase one. After 10 years, would think that you would see 50 per- critical habitat in the spring. phase two kicks in. Phase two, listen cent, 60 percent, 80 percent, whatever. H1326 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 But you have had 1 percent or less If this was critical habitat, they pected shortly to declare 450 miles of cranes who have ever been seen in that would probably stay here for several the Platte River and the Loop River region of the river over 29 years. days, a week, maybe a month, and re- right here and the Niabrara River as Probably the most convincing evi- group, do some mating, whatever; but critical habitat for the piping plover dence that I have run across is that they do not. I think they simply fly and the least tern. Ninety-seven per- from 1981 to 1984, a period of 21⁄2 to 3 along, and when they are tired and see cent of these rivers flow through pri- years, there was a radio-tracking study some water, they drop in for the vate land. Also these same two species, of whooping cranes where they had an evening. It may be here, it may be the piping plover and the least tern, electronic collar put on them so you here, it could be almost anywhere will have critical habitat declared in knew absolutely where they were all place. It might be on a lake, Sand Hill South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana the time. This went on for three south- Lake or whatever. and Minnesota; and in those States al- ern migrations and two northern mi- But the important thing to remem- most 100 percent of the area is public grations. Eighteen cranes at that time ber is this central part of the Platte is land. In Nebraska it is almost all pri- represented somewhere between 15 and really critical habitat for one group of vate. The same issues that apply to the 20 percent of the total whooping crane cranes, and that is the Sand Hill whooping crane apply to this par- population. cranes. There are roughly 400,000 to ticular designation of these species. Here was what they found in that re- 500,000 Sand Hill cranes that come into So it is interesting. But let us stick search: they found that none of those that area, and they spend 2 to 4 weeks with the middle section of the Platte 1 18 whooping cranes over 2 ⁄2 years, every year. They come from Arizona, River, because this is the area we know three southern and two northern mi- and they come from Texas and Okla- the most about, and this is the area grations, none of them used the Platte homa and Arkansas and Louisiana; and where we have the most data. Again, River at any time during that migra- they funnel into this area, and they are refer to the document from the water- tion. heavily concentrated in this area; and shed director who wrote the letter. He Now, surely if this is critical habitat then they go up to their nesting said ‘‘that the Central Platte does not for the whooping crane, you would grounds up in Canada and North Da- offer any naturally occurring nesting think that at least seven or eight or kota and so on. habitat for these species, i.e., the pip- nine of those cranes would have regu- So what has happened I think is ing plover and least tern, is amply larly used the river, but yet not one of early on Fish and Wildlife and others demonstrated by the fact that no tern them did over that period of time of 21⁄2 made a mistake, and I think it was an years. It is not a case here where they honest mistake. I think they assumed or plover chicks were known to fledge can slip out of the area under the radar that the whooping crane does the same on any natural river sandbar during screen, because they are checked elec- thing as the Sand Hill crane, and that the entire decade of the 1990s.’’ tronically and they know where they the whooping crane really needed this So this stretch of river we have been are. They were not in that area of the area to spend time to stage, to mate, to talking about was studied over a 10- river. gain strength for the rest of their trip. year period, and at that time they So the author goes on to say: ‘‘I won- But that is not the case. We very well found no fledglings of chicks on the der if the Platte River would even be have proven this at the present time. river, other than in sand pits which are considered if the Fish and Wildlife There is one whooping crane that got off the river and then some man-made Service was charged with designating mixed up, and this whooping crane ap- sandbars that were strictly designed critical habitat today. Whooping crane parently was imprinted and identified for this fledgling capacity. experts that I have visited would be with Sand Hill cranes. They have even b 2215 hard-pressed to consider the Platte named it. ‘‘Oklahoma’’ is the name of So the problem is that these birds River, given our current state of it. This particular crane comes with nest near the water level. So any time the Sand Hill cranes, and he sticks knowledge.’’ there is a fluctuation, any time a river Then he says: ‘‘Certainly none would around for 3 or 4 weeks like the other raises, it flushes out the nests. So they be willing to state on a witness stand Sand Hill cranes, because he thinks he do pretty well on lakes, they do pretty that the continued existence of the spe- is a Sand Hill crane, apparently. I well on sand pits, but they do not do cies would be in jeopardy if the Platte would wonder how many of the very well on rivers, particularly rivers River were to disappear.’’ sightings in this area have been Okla- that fluctuate. So what he is saying is if this area of homa, that one crane. He may have So the letter from this particular in- the Platte River for some reason went been sighted many times over. So, any- dividual who wrote to the Fish and away, he does not know of any experts way, there is a difference between Wildlife Service, the researcher said that would say that would harm the these two different species; and I think this. He said, ‘‘A 50-to-60 day window of whooping crane. Yet that is the critical it is important that we understand flows less than about 1,500 cubic feet habitat, and that is the area that has that this is the case. caused all of the in-stream flows, the Actually, Fish and Wildlife is doing per second during late May through 140,000 acre feet of water and the sedi- everything they can to make the habi- mid July is necessary to allow for nest- ment being dumped into the Platte tat fit the whooping crane. Twice a day ing and subsequent fledging. This did River to compensate for pulse flows, they fly the river here looking for not happen in the 1990s. Nests and/or and all of the things that are going on whooping cranes; and, of course, if you young were flooded out.’’ up and down this river, which really look hard enough, you may find some- So what he is saying is this: that on have impacted farmers and ranchers. thing. But, still, you are only having 1 that stretch of Platte River, any time Also within three miles of either side percent, maybe 2 percent of the total you get elevated flows above 1,500 cubic of this river, you cannot drill a new population, even with surveillance feet per second, because the nests are well. Anytime you do, you have to flights going back and forth on the built right at water level, you are close down another one. So all of the river. Only 1 to 2 percent of the whoop- going to flush them out. So what they water here is restricted, primarily for ing cranes are spotted in that area as are trying to do is that they are trying this particular stretch of the Platte they come north or as they go south. to regulate flows in the river from this which is supposed to preserve the So, again, we would say that prob- lake right here, Lake McConaughy. whooping crane. So again, I would have ably most definitely there has been an The problem is that the lake is 100 to say that this is a false premise. improper designation of this area for miles from the start of the critical The thing we might also mention is the whooping crane, and nobody cares habitat, right there, and it is about 170 that whooping cranes, normally when too much if it is an improper designa- miles to the end of the critical habitat, they do stop in February, and they do tion. The main issue is simply the fact which is right there. stop, and you will see a scattergram of that it is causing an awful lot of dis- Now, the problem is that it takes, to where they stop, and there are some ruption up and down the Platte River go 100 miles, that water needs 5 days to here, and there are some here and up Valley. get to the start of the habitat, it needs here, so they are all through the State, Now, further, and I think this is im- 7 days to get to the bottom end of the but normally they only stay overnight. portant too, Fish and Wildlife is ex- habitat, so you are releasing water out April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1327 of Lake McConaughy to control the before that dam was in existence back coho were damaged. So that is one ex- flow to try to get 1,500 cubic feet per in the 1800s, nobody saw the piping ample of the Endangered Species Act second or whatever. The problem is plover or least tern in any numbers at actually harming a species. that in the next 5 days, we better not all along the Platte River. We have also talked about the flows have a rain. Because if we have a rain They said there were 3 reasons for on the Central Platte luring the piping down here or if we have a significant this: Number one that ran the river ran plover to nest and then having them inflow from the South Platte River, unimpeded; the snow pack melted and wiped out by rain events. Then let us then, all of a sudden, that water comes the highest water would occur in June, consider one other case, and that is the up and that is what happened for 10 which was about in the peak nesting issue of prairie dogs, because the prai- straight years. All of those rivers were time for the piping plover and least rie dogs are now considered threatened. flushed out. So here we have critical tern. Every year they got wiped out be- They are not listed. But I think the habitat, again, that is going to be very cause that water went up and they one thing that people need to under- disruptive to ranchers and farmers that could no longer survive and then, the stand is that ranchers and farmers apparently is not working. Platte River is rather unique in that in right now can, in places, tolerate some For some reason, the sand pits and August, it would dry up. Most years prairie dogs, because they know they the lakes and the other areas where the there would not be any water in the can control them. Now, a prairie dog piping plover and the least tern have river, which meant essentially that can take over and eliminate a whole been hatching and have been fledging there was no feed, there was no habitat pasture, a whole ranch, a whole farm if have not been declared as critical habi- for the young birds if they did manage they are left unchecked. But you can tat; only the rivers. So this is a little to survive. So the river was not really handle a prairie dog colony here, a bit of a puzzle, at least to me; I do not what some people thought it was. Then prairie dog colony there, and you un- derstand if they start spreading, you quite understand exactly how this is lastly, there was no historical data of can do something to control the working. tern or plover sightings on the Central So it would seem that attempting to Platte at all during the early 1900s, the spread. But once the prairie dog is list- create a river environment which, for late 1800s. ed as endangered or threatened, then most nesting by the piping plover and So we would say, well, certainly, if you cannot do anything to that prairie dog. the least tern, may actually harm the settlers, trappers, people who went So ranchers and farmers are con- along the river, if they were there they species. This is the logic. cerned. So right now, some ranchers Again, the letter from this particular would have seen them and they would and farmers are saying, I cannot afford researcher goes on. He says, ‘‘This begs have reported them, but they did not to have any prairie dogs on my prop- the question as to whether it is in the do so. So the assumption is that this is erty in case it is listed as an endan- best interests of the species’ long term not critical habitat that is indigenous gered species. So I think right now in well-being to attract them to an area to the species. This is not something some ways, the Endangered Species where they are likely to be flooded or that has occurred over a long period of Act and the ability to list the prairie eaten by predators.’’ So what you do is time, and if it has worked at all, it has dog potentially may be working you adjust the river and in the spring, been because of that dam. But even against the prairie dog more than any because you are trying to hold down then, it has not been effective. other issue at the present time. the flows, you get them to nest and So what we are saying here is that So we have had several examples, and then over that next 50 or 60 days, you the critical habitat designations for there are others where the Endangered are holding your breath and, most of the whooping crane and the piping Species Act does not serve landowners the time, they are going to get flooded plover would not seem to be accurate, and wildlife well. We talked about the out. So you attract them into an area at least the way I interpret the data. Klamath Basin issue, the 2001 Canadian that probably is going to result in their So I have requested the Secretary of lynx, falsification of visitor data to na- destruction. They would be much bet- the Interior provide an independent tional forests, the ignoring of the ter off if they went to a sand pit or peer review through the National Acad- dumping of sludge into the Potomac some place where they are not going to emy of Science or some equivalent and also the critical habitat designa- be flooded out. So in some ways, all of agency. I know that Secretary Norton tion on the Platte River. Let us be fair. the machinations and the different gy- is dedicated to making decisions based I think it is only fair to say this too. I rations that we are going through here on accurate data. I have talked to her, have been a little bit hard on fish and to save the piping plover and the least and I know this is true. So we are as- wildlife and the Forest Service. Cer- tern may actually contribute to their suming, we are hoping that we can tainly the great majority of Federal demise. avert another situation similar to the employees who work with endangered So it is interesting to note that much Klamath Basin by having an inde- species are ethical, they are hard-work- of the regulation of critical habitat is pendent peer review. I think everyone ing. I have met them, I know them and designed to restore habitat to its origi- is willing to live with it if the data in- I have worked with them. It is like any nal state. That is sort of the gold dicates it. But most people that I know profession: 5 or the 10 percent tend to standard I think for many environ- who study the river are really uncom- paint with a very broad brush. mental groups, and particularly for fortable with making this critical habi- However, I would have to say this, in Fish and Wildlife. So we read in the tat and all of the changes that occur in all candor. I do believe that an end-jus- Journals of Lewis and Clark 1800, as Nebraska, in Wyoming and in Colorado, tifies-the-means mentality has become they went up the Missouri River, we for what appears to be nonexistent more and more pervasive. In other read about prairie dogs and we read habitat. So we are hoping that we can words, there is the thought process about buffalo. So these folks are point- get a study done. that we need to save the species; there- ing to these journals and they are say- Mr. Speaker, I think it is important fore, we are going to make sure that we ing, well, this is where the prairie dogs that those listening do not assume that do whatever we have to do to have once lived and this was before people I oppose endangered species. I am very plenty of critical habitat, and we are disturbed it. Therefore, we must re- much in tune with wildlife and I cer- going to protect the species and we are store this situation, this habitat, and tainly do not want to see the whooping not going to be too worried about the we must make sure these species are crane suffer, the piping plover, the financial consequences to ranchers and again existent in those areas. least tern, the prairie dog, or whatever, other people. So the absolute authority So there was a study done by EA En- but I think it is important to remem- granted by the Endangered Species Act gineering in the late 1980s, and they in- ber that sometimes the Endangered has given license, I believe, to rather dicated this. They said the Central Species Act may actually harm the serious abuses and we have chronicled Platte did not play a significant role in species. Of course I already mentioned some of those this evening. The person the maintenance of the least tern or that the coho salmon was harmed by closest to the species is the landowner the piping plover prior to the construc- the larger flows out of Klamath Lake and the person who often cares as tion of Kingsley Dam in 1941. Here is because the water warmed up and when much about the species as anybody is the dam, and what they are saying is the water went down the river, the the landowner. H1328 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 So I have seen some cases where Fish comments that were made by members of jobs that are available to the people and Wildlife people have worked in of the minority party here earlier this of the country. We have to make sure partnership and in a symbiotic rela- evening, and for at least an hour, per- that the government does what it can tionship with the landowners. This has haps longer, they went on about the do to make it easier for corporations, made a huge difference, because when concerns they have with the fact that for small businesses, to employ other you get the landowners on board, when we have, that this body has passed and people, to sell their products and serv- they are with you and they understand this Congress has passed, a package of ices, and thereby prosper. We believe what you are trying to do and they un- bills that we refer to as a stimulus that is the way to get the economy derstand you are not out to get them, package and essentially, they are moving again. some great things can happen for the measures designed to reduce taxes on What did our friends on the other wildlife. So I have seen it that way. the people of the United States of side offer to this stimulus package? I have seen it on the other hand too. America. What did we in fact have to include in order to get it passed? The one pro- I have seen arbitrary behavior where b 2230 the Endangered Species Act has been posal, the one and only proposal that used as a club: my way or the highway. I think, and they were concerned came from the minority party to stim- You guys do not have any rights, we about this, and they certainly do not ulate our economy, was to increase the are going to shove it down your throat. want, as they said, they do not want length of time people could be on un- When that happens, you find that the these measures to become permanent. employment compensation. landowner is forced to choose between They want all of the temporary tax Now, we can argue for the need for a species and his livelihood, and the cuts to remain only temporary. In fact, the Federal Government to increase landowner usually is going to choose they are concerned about the fact that the length of time people can be eligi- his livelihood. The Endangered Species we passed them at all. They would just ble for unemployment, but that is a Act, often unnecessarily, forces the as soon that we never had passed tax separate debate. It should be a separate landowner to make this choice, and cuts. debate, totally and completely dif- when this happens, everyone loses. I would like the people listening, and ferent from the debate over what it is also, most importantly, Mr. Speaker, I we can do to get the economy moving f want to address this comment to the again. Yet, this is the only thing they ANNOUNCEMENT OF INTENTION TO House, and reflect upon exactly what it put forward, an increase in the amount OFFER MOTION TO INSTRUCT ON was that we had to do in order to get of time people could be eligible for un- H.R. 2646, FARM SECURITY ACT Democratic support for our package, employment. OF 2001 the package that we refer to as a stim- Now, I suggest, Mr. Speaker, that Mr. TANCREDO. Mr. Speaker, pursu- ulus package. I think it is very eluci- that is a perfect example. I cannot ant to clause 7(c) of rule XXII, I hereby dative. It tells us a great deal about think of a better way to explain to the announce my intention to offer the fol- the difference between the two parties, American people the difference that ex- lowing motion to instruct House con- and about the way in which we do our ists between two parties, two philoso- ferees tomorrow on H.R. 2646. business here in this House. It tells us phies, two ideas of government. One, because we want tax breaks, we The form of the motion is as follows: a great deal about how we view govern- are characterized as heartbreakers, I move that the managers on the part ment and its relationship to the people. cruel, or only wanting to help the of the House at the conference on the Now, it is undeniably true that as a ‘‘rich.’’ But as has been said often on disagreeing votes of the two Houses on result of a number of things, tradi- this floor, and certainly something the Senate amendment to the bill H.R. tional economic downturns, the war we with which I agree, Mr. Speaker, I have 2646, an Act to provide for the continu- are facing, a variety of other issues never personally been given a job by a ation of agricultural programs through have impacted negatively on the econ- omy of this Nation. That is undeniably poor person. Jobs only come from peo- fiscal year 2011, be instructed to dis- ple who can afford to give jobs, compa- agree to the provisions contained in true. No one argues with that. As a result, revenues have dropped, nies that can afford to employ people. Section 452 of the Senate amendment, And their ability to do so, their ability jobs have disappeared, and Federal, relating to partial restoration of bene- to employ people, is directly related to State and local governments are hav- fits to legal immigrants. the costs they incur to be in business. f ing a more difficult time meeting their One of those costs, in fact, I think a commitments because revenues have WELFARE REFORM AND OTHER very expensive cost, is the cost of the decreased. That is undeniably true. government. I think it is too high. I ISSUES IMPORTANT TO AMERI- That is the only thing upon which we CANS think we interfere far too much with agree. the marketplace and with people’s abil- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Everybody here can agree there is a ity to actually do business. BOOZMAN). Under the Speaker’s an- problem. The President has articulated There are legitimate roles for the nounced policy of January 3, 2001, the the problem, and has postulated a re- government, undeniably, legitimate gentleman from Colorado (Mr. sponse and a solution. This is what sep- roles in this area. But when we are TANCREDO) is recognized for 60 minutes. arates the two parties, this philosophy talking about trying to get this econ- Mr. TANCREDO. Mr. Speaker, before of government embodied in this whole omy moving again, and then to hear I give my comments tonight, I want to idea of a stimulus package, ‘‘stim- our friends on the other side of the take note of one individual in par- ulus,’’ meaning to get the country aisle come up here tonight and talk for ticular here in the room with us to- moving again. over an hour about their fear that a tax night and those that are also here What can we do, what is there that break, that a tax cut would in some every single night, every single day on the Members of this body can do, to re- way or other jeopardize the success of the floor, and they are the pages that invigorate the American economy? our stimulus package, that is abso- have worked so hard to make the oper- Now, when we presented this in the lutely incredible. ation of this House successful as it is. form of a motion here on the floor, in Actually, it is not incredible, it is to In particular, one Katie Roehrick, who the form of regulations and/or laws, be expected, but it is also to be re- I spoke to just a little earlier, I want here is what we came up with. jected. It is a failed philosophy. We to especially point out and thank her On the Republican side, we said that cannot tax ourselves out of a recession. for her work and staying late in the the best thing that we can do as a body What we can do is, of course, unleash evenings as she does and to her mom, is to in fact reduce the tax burden on the power, the spirit, and the enter- Brenda, for producing such a lovely the people of the country and on the prise of the American people, and that daughter. businesses that employ the people of is what we have done. That is what this Mr. Speaker, there are a number of this country, because we believe in President has requested. That is how issues with which I wish to deal to- order to get the economy in fact stimu- this Congress has responded. night. Before I begin the major body of lated, as the title of the package im- We should not only disavow any at- my presentation, I want to refer to the plies, we need to increase the number tempt on the part of the minority April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1329 party to retain the degree to which all happens around here, as we know, but So we started a new era, and almost of these things were temporary, but we it happened in 1996, and to the benefit without exception, every State began should in fact move quickly to make of literally millions and millions of to see a reduction in the number of all of these tax reductions permanent, Americans, millions of Americans who people on the welfare rolls. Now we are and we should do so with haste and were no longer besieged, in a way, by something like 50 percent below where with great pride, because it is in fact the plight of welfare. we were. Some States, I am told, are 80 what will get this country moving I say it in that way, I couch it in percent or 90 percent below where they again. those terms, because that is exactly were in 1996. Now, it is interesting to note that al- what welfare is in reality, it is a plight. Now, a lot of people say, well, natu- though we heard a number of protesta- It is something that we understood in rally, it is because, of course, we had a tions from the other party tonight 1996 to affect intrinsically, I say, in- time of economic prosperity. But I about the cost of government, about trinsically, the character of the Na- would refer to the many, many studies the expenditures of the Federal Gov- tion, and to negatively affect the peo- that have been done on this issue that ernment, something I am sure they are ple it was designed to benefit. have shown that heretofore, prior to not used to actually doing, when we Welfare was always, since the begin- 1996, it did not matter how many eco- consider that for 40 years this body was ning of the country, designed or nomic boom and bust cycles we went thought of as being a very thing. For controlled by the Democratic Party through in the country, it did not mat- the most part, of course, we know at and for 40 years we were in deficit ter that the graph showed this fluc- the beginning of the Nation it was spending, and the idea of a balanced tuating line in times of great pros- never thought of as being a govern- budget was almost laughable. In fact, I perity, in times of economic ment responsibility at all; it was the know that many people did consider it downturns. It did not matter that, over responsibility of churches and of local a joke: How could we ever do that? Im- the course of time, the number of peo- communities. But we have expanded possible. It is only right and just and ple on welfare went up, and the eco- that concept dramatically, as we all God willed somehow that we would al- nomic boom cycle had nothing to do know. We did so, I think, for the most ways be in deficit spending, as long as with bringing it down. It never came part for very altruistic reasons. We did they were in charge. down. It went up in good times, it went so because we believed that the people So the idea of actually coming to the up in bad times, prior to 1996. floor and talking about fiscal prudence, who were more well off needed to help b 2245 fiscal responsibility, I am happy to and benefit those who were in need. hear it. I hope somehow or other those That is something that I think we can It was not the economic good times words begin to actually take root with- all agree to. of the nineties. After all, we only in the Members of the other side. I But the whole idea of welfare was passed this in 1996. It began to take ef- hope they actually begin to listen to that it was a temporary thing, meant fect maybe 1997–1998, and we had al- what they say about being able to ac- to get them over a particular bump in ready been in a period of at least 10 or the road, a problem they were having tually prioritize the needs of this Na- more years of economic upturn. Why in their lives that, with a little bit of tion in a way that allows us as a nation had we not seen an increase in the help from the government, they could to live within our means, as we all number of people employed during that overcome and move on to self-suffi- must do, or face the consequences. period and getting off of welfare during I say that that is ironic in a way be- ciency. the time prior to 1996, say, from about But we all know, Mr. Speaker, what cause, on another note, we will be and 1985 to 1996? happened over the course of time: it have been for some time and we will We did not see it because, of course, was no longer thought of, for the most continue to debate the issue of immi- the welfare system only encouraged part, as just a temporary thing; it was gration into the United States of people to stay on welfare. We encour- thought of as a lifestyle. It became a aged generation after generation after America. We will talk about the need lifestyle for far too many, literally generation of people to be on welfare. for immigration, and we will talk millions of Americans, far too many It is all they knew. It is all they trust- about its impact, and the fact that di- Americans. And it did not benefit ed. It is all that they could actually versity plays such a wonderful role in them, in the long run. the American landscape. In a way, there is a great metaphor. hope for or think about. We will soon be debating whether or We could think about penguins who We actually forced a change in the not we should in fact be increasing the were at one time able to fly. I always character, the national character of a amount of money, and in particular, think about this, and realize that over nation, an amazing thing. the amount of food stamps, that will be eons of time, these particular birds did So what are we now proposing in the made available to people who are here not use that ability and they eventu- farm bill? We are proposing to add peo- who are not citizens of the country: an ally lost it. ple to the welfare rolls, 200,000, perhaps expansion of the food stamp welfare What we did to a lot of people was to more, depending upon which version of program. That may be up on this floor take away their ability to fly; in this this thing is passed by this body, if it as early as tomorrow. It is the motion case, I mean to actually make their is passed. I suggest if history is any that I made earlier upon the beginning own way in life. We took away their guide to this, it will be far more than of my comments here that I intend to self-esteem. 200,000; but what we are saying is that instruct the conferees, at least I intend There have been many books, many all of the things we did right in 1996 we to bring a motion before this body that research papers, written on the effects, are going to undo, little by little here; would instruct the House conferees the negative effects, of welfare on our and we are going to start with people that are presently in conference with society. We came to that conclusion as who are immigrants to the country, the Senate over the farm bill to not a majority of this body, and with the legal, that is true, but nonetheless in- agree to any expansion of welfare bene- President. After he vetoed it two eligible for welfare at the present time, fits for people who are not citizens of times, the past president, President ineligible for food stamps at the the United States. Clinton, he eventually came to the con- present time. Now, we passed just a few years ago, clusion that it was the right thing to Mr. Speaker, there is a peculiar thing 6 short years ago, we passed a bill in do, and it was. That was to stop doing that we do, one of the many I guess this body that is widely, widely accept- what we were doing and begin to move that we do with regard to this issue of ed as being a monumental improve- in a direction that would once again re- immigration, and that is, that when ment in the area of welfare. The Wel- flect that original attitude about wel- someone comes here as an immigrant fare Reform Act that we passed in this fare; that is, that it was a temporary they have to actually find a sponsor body did a number of amazing things. intercession on the part of the Federal who is willing to say and swear to the It was a sea change, if you will. It was Government or the State or local gov- fact that when this person comes in as one of the few times that a government ernment, and that the worst thing we the person they sponsor, that they, in reverses its policy and begins to go in could do was to make it a continuing fact, will be held financially respon- a different direction. That hardly ever process. sible so that that person coming in will H1330 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 never be a drain on the resources of the them all to vote for our party based on Third World populations dwarf those of Nation. We say that all the time. I our principles. the rest of the world and so, in reality, mean, that is every single person I am a Republican. The principles of the poorest American still lives better comes in, they actually sign it. my party rest on less government, less than most people in the world. Amazingly, Mr. Speaker, we do not welfare, more individual freedom, a That is an amazing thing. It is an in- enforce it. In fact, there is not a mech- greater degree of trust and under- credible thing, and of course if you are anism to enforce it. We would not standing of the importance of indi- here and the only thing against which know what court to go to. There is no vidual responsibility. That is what I you judge it is what your neighbor has regulation that allows us to actually believe we can appeal to people on. you feel impoverished, and I do not have a pathway to do this. So it is People on the other side have their mean for a moment that we should not never enforced. Not one person, not one own principles and ideas, all just as do everything we can to make sure person here today as an immigrant, deeply felt, all principled. I do not sug- that everyone in the United States and some are eligible under our laws gest for a moment that the folks on the does not move as quickly as they pos- because of economic status, but none other side of the aisle do not feel these sibly can toward economic self-suffi- should be eligible because of the fact things as strongly as I feel our prin- ciency, but welfare is not the way to do that we have someone who said they ciples. it. would be responsible, financially re- Let us go forward based on who we It is more often than not a political sponsible. Yet not one person has ever are and what we are and ask for the ploy. It is a political carrot we dangle been held responsible for an immigrant support of the people who are here in in front of people for their votes, but it family coming here that then goes on the country; and I think, as Repub- is in a way as destructive to them as a welfare, not one. It is a big joke, as licans, I think we will win. Certainly drug that we put in front of them. Wel- much of the immigration issue is a we will win our share. We will not win fare is a drug that once injected be- nasty, ugly and really not-so-funny every single person, but I believe we comes addictive. We recognize that. joke. No one has ever been held respon- can win our share by saying to them This is what I am saying now. What is sible, no one; but that is the law. They that we trust you, we want you to be amazing to me is that we came to this are supposed to. part of this American mosaic, and we conclusion as a body, as a country just I ask my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, want to give you the freedom to both 6 years ago. Yet here we are talking should it be the business of this body succeed and the freedom to fail. about expanding the number of people to actually reverse some of the activ- That is the essence of freedom. Every eligible for, in this case, food stamp ity, some of the benefits of the 1996 country on the Earth that has tried the benefits; and again I say it is simply Welfare Reform Act and now begin an other experiment we call socialism, for political reasons. expansion of the number of people who that experiment that tells people you The issue of immigration is one with are on welfare, in this particular case, really cannot fail, you really cannot, which we must deal; and it will be in- on food stamps, who are made eligible do not worry, we will always make sure teresting to see tomorrow, Mr. Speak- for food stamps? I believe it is wrong- you have a job even if your job pro- er, if we do bring this motion to the headed. duces nothing of value, the government floor to instruct conferees. It will be I know that there are political moti- will subsidize it, we will always make interesting to see how all the people vations for this. I understand that in sure you have a home, a little apart- who stood on the floor tonight to talk this body is what really makes things ment maybe someplace, because this is about fiscal discipline, the importance work. That is the mother’s milk of this a guarantee against your ever failing. of not spending more than we take in, organization, that is, what are the poli- Well, when you say to people you it will be interesting to see how they tics of the issue, and in this case, it is cannot fail, you also say to them, well, vote on this $2 billion proposal, an ex- pretty clear. There is a rapidly-expand- you cannot succeed; and the greatness pansion of welfare. ing immigration population in the of America is the fact that here we do My guess is that most of them will United States; and the hope that we say to everyone or at least it is the vote to expand it. Regardless of the fis- can garner their support, the political promise of America that you have this cal implication of this country, it real- support of these people who will soon great opportunity. The great oppor- ly does not matter. I would bet, Mr. become citizens and eligible to vote tunity is to succeed even beyond your Speaker, that most of the people on and even those who vote, even though wildest imagination, and yes, you may this floor would vote for it even if it they are not citizens, and they do en fail, but that is an important part in expanded welfare by $20 billion, by $50 masse, believe me, fraudulently vote, the process, and to fail does not mean billion, because the issue is not fiscal but we are all concerned about the im- it is all over. It means you start again responsibility at that point. It is poli- pact of this massive immigration on on a new path. tics. It is votes. How many votes can our own political futures. This goes That is what I consider to be the we buy with welfare; and as I have told from the White House down through American way. That is what I consider people on my side of the aisle so often, the House and Senate. to be the promise we should hold out to Mr. Speaker, we will never be able to Mr. Speaker, it is fascinating, be- everyone coming into the United outbid the folks on the other side of cause in the Zogby poll I saw not too States and to people who have been the aisle for votes when it comes to long ago there was one portion of it here for all of their lives, that we give handicap welfare because everything where they actually went to Hispanic them both the freedom to succeed and we offer they will up the ante. Americans, and in this case Hispanic the freedom to fail. After all, it is not their money. It is immigrants to the country who are not There is an immediate allure I know just the people’s money. Why not buy yet citizens, and said there is a pro- to going up to people and saying we votes with the people’s money? It is posal to, among other things, provide will protect you from failure, we will not yours, and that is in fact what we amnesty for people coming into this make sure you cannot; and we will hide are doing here when we expand welfare. country, and would you be more or less any of the negative from you, but to It is, in fact, what we are doing when inclined to vote for someone who sup- fail as a system cannot work like this, we expand the number of people that ported amnesty for someone here ille- and they have failed all over the world. can come into the United States. It is gally? Amazingly, a majority of the It is only our system that now shines a exactly what we do when we try to stop people, Hispanic Americans, said no, I light as a beacon really to the poor and organizations of our government from would not be in favor of that. I would impoverished of the world as to how we actually enforcing the immigration actually vote against someone who can improve the lives of everyone. laws, because we want for the most proposed that. The poorest American for the most part, many people here want more peo- I believe with all my heart, Mr. part lives even a better life than most ple coming into the country. Why? Be- Speaker, that we can appeal to every of the people in the Third World. The cause they want diversity? Because American, whether they be Hispanic or poorest American has a better life they have some sort of altruistic feel- black or Italian, as I am, or Hungarian today than most people in the world. I ing? No. No, sir. I do not believe that or Polish or whatever, we can appeal to say in the world because, in fact, the that is the case. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1331 I think for the most part, this is my actually turn in in terms of their own der Patrol’s own admission, it catches feeling, Mr. Speaker, I believe that tax revenues. one in five and admits that around what we are talking about here is the Low-wage, low-skilled workers natu- 800,000 have slipped across the border most crass politics. I see it as verbose. rally pay less in taxes, naturally. Many up to that point in time. Local ranch- I see the people coming in as potential of them, of course, are paid in cash be- ers who have been watching the border voters that I know want to retain cause they are illegal. They are here il- for several generations strongly dis- power and even if you have to buy legally. So there is an advantage to the agree and estimate that the agency them off to do so, through government employer who can skirt the law by pay- nets one in 10. Estimates are that in programs and services, some people ing the employee in cash, thereby 2001, over 1.5 million unlawful immi- will do that. avoiding all kinds of employment grants crossed into America in what There is a great danger to this coun- taxes, and to the employee who takes the Border Patrol people called the try from massive immigration, both it in cash who therefore does not have Tucson sector. The numbers are stag- legal and illegal. It is on many fronts. to pay taxes on it, does not have to ac- gering. It is growing dramatically. One is, in fact, the economic implica- count for it or fill out any forms. So a Mr. Speaker, please understand, we tions of massive immigration. For huge amount of money, a huge part of are not just talking about people from many, many years, immigration was this economy, is a cash economy from Mexico or South America; we are talk- thought of as one of the things that which the government receives abso- ing about people from all over the drove the economic engine of this lutely no revenues. world coming through Mexico. country, and we still talk about it in For those people who then in fact do This article goes on to identify the that way. We still talk about the need pay taxes, they are people who pay a many people coming through that bor- for labor, especially low-cost labor. low level because naturally they are der illegally from the Middle East. A People on my side of the aisle espe- low-skilled, low-wage earners. Most Border Patrol spokesman stated that cially talk about the need for low-cost pay none. Even if they are filing, they the other than Mexican detentions has labor and the importance of, in fact, do not really pay taxes with the excep- grown by 42 percent. Most of the non- keeping the engine running with those tion of sales and use taxes, but they Mexican immigrants are from El Sal- folks, and therefore, the need for mas- pay no income taxes for the most part. vador, but they have picked up people sive immigration. But the costs of society are significant. from all over the world. Arabs have For a long time, Mr. Speaker, I think The cost of adding each new person been reported crossing the Arizona bor- that that was a legitimate argument. to a community is about $1,500 and der for an unknown period, and border When the country was going through that is the first year, taking into ac- rancher George Morgan encountered the industrial revolution, it was in des- count all of the things that have to be thousands of illegals crossing his ranch perate need of low-cost labor. That was put in place for that additional person, on a well-used trail. He talks about an necessary for the accumulation of cap- streets, houses, all of the infrastruc- incident where he saw literally hun- ital and for the eventual development ture. It is not economically viable; it is dreds on his property one day. They of our system. no longer something that pushes the were all Iranians, 100 Iranians, coming engine of the economy. It is a drain on b 2300 across the border. This article goes on the economy. It is a governor, if you to detail that particular phenomenon. And there were horrendous examples will, on the engine, on the speed of the That is to say that just because we of the excesses of the time, sweat shops engine. have a porous border in the south and and the like. Nonetheless, a case could It does in fact benefit certain people, we talk about the danger that that be made for the need for massive num- undeniably true. The hotel owners in poses to America from an economic bers of low-cost, low-skilled workers. I the resort areas in my State are bene- standpoint, please understand that suggest, Mr. Speaker, like everything, fited by having low-skilled, low-wage there is another danger that it poses to the economics of this changed dramati- people come into the United States America, and that is a very vital part cally and that the impact today of seeking jobs that perhaps no one else of this discussion, and that is the dan- massive numbers of low-skilled, low- would take. That is what we always ger to our national security that is as wage workers is actually negative on hear. But what we do not hear is the a result of our porous borders, that is the country. rest of that line, jobs no one else would as a result of the fact that we do not I know that there are people who will take for the price I am paying this per- care. disagree with me, recognizing as I hear son. Well, it is true that perhaps they Mr. Speaker, we do not care who all of the time from certain industries will have a harder time getting other comes across. We are afraid of actually that they could not run their business, folks to take those jobs, but it is not putting into any sort of order our bor- a lot of ski areas in Colorado, talk true this is an overall economic benefit der control efforts. We are afraid of it. about the fact that they cannot find to the Nation. Why are we afraid? How can this be, enough people, they have to rely on im- The numbers are staggering. In a re- Mr. Speaker? That after 3,000 Ameri- migrants; and they know that most of cent article, and I should preference cans were killed by aliens, people who them are illegal. this by saying at the height of the im- came here from other countries for the Here is an interesting concept put migration wave into the United States purpose of doing harm, some of them forth by a Vanderbilt professor, and I in the early part of the 20th century, here illegally as a result of overstaying will characterize it in this way. Mas- we saw about 200,000 people a year com- their visas, how can we say that we sive immigration of low-skilled work- ing in. That was only for 2 or 3 years, turn a blind eye and that we do not ers privatizes profits and socializes and after that it went down. That was care about the fact that these borders costs. That means that there are unde- tops. That was at the heyday of immi- are porous? How can we continue to en- niably a number of people who do prof- gration into the country. Today, about courage people to come across those it as a result of having a lot of low- a million come in legally. We do not borders illegally? How is it that we can skilled people working for them. They know how many come in illegally. be so cavalier about what I consider to do in fact have greater profits in that Mr. Speaker, here is an interesting be one of the most important aspects of regard because you can pay lower article that appeared recently in World our national sovereignty, the establish- wages. But on the other side, there are Net Daily. It says in Cochise County, ment of, the protection of, the defense costs to society. There are costs for Arizona, the U.S.-Mexican border is the of our borders. schools, costs for streets, hospitals, most heavily used corridor for illegal costs for social services, including wel- alien traffic on America’s southern b 2310 fare. What we have found is that the border, and the numbers of unauthor- Is it really passe? Is it really out- cost of immigration, especially for low- ized immigrants smuggled across the dated for me to stand on the floor of skilled, low-wage people are higher porous border dumbfounds the imagi- this body and this House and plead for than the profits they return, higher nation. As of October 19, 2001, the U.S. the protection of our borders, the de- than the benefits that they provide in Border Patrol had apprehended 158,782 fense of our borders? Is that really that terms of taxes, higher than what they illegals. That was in 2001. By the Bor- odd? How is it that we can look at this H1332 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 whole phenomenon and not reel by the LEAVE OF ABSENCE Economy Advertising For New Auto- mobiles—received March 21, 2002, pursuant to impact made when we understand the By unanimous consent, leave of ab- fact that every day, literally thousands 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on sence was granted to: Energy and Commerce. of people are crossing our borders with- Mr. HASTINGS of Florida (at the re- 6191. A letter from the Secretary, Federal out our knowledge, certainly without quest of Mr. GEPHARDT) for today and Trade Commission, transmitting the Com- our permission. For the most part, I the balance of the week on account of mission’s final rule—Guide For The Rebuilt, am sure that their intentions are be- official business. Reconditioned, And Other Used Automobile Parts Industry—received March 21, 2002, pur- nign. But whether their intentions are Mr. THORNBERRY (at the request of suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- simply to take a low-cost job that no Mr. ARMEY) for today and April 17 on one else will take or their intentions mittee on Energy and Commerce. account of a death in the family. 6192. A letter from the Secretary, Federal are to do something more evil, the fact f Trade Commission, transmitting the Com- is that the impact is negative on the mission’s final rule—Rule Concerning Disclo- country, negative from an economic SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED sures Regarding Energy Consumption and standpoint and negative from a na- By unanimous consent, permission to Water Use of Certain Home Appliances and tional security standpoint. address the House, following the legis- Other Products Required Under the Energy lative program and any special orders Policy and Conservation Act (Appliance La- This body has failed to produce a sin- beling Rule)—received March 21, 2002, pursu- gle piece of legislation, both the House heretofore entered, was granted to: ant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee and the Senate together, failed to (The following Members (at the re- on Energy and Commerce. produce a single piece of legislation quest of Ms. WOOLSEY) to revise and ex- 6193. A letter from the Acting Director, De- which will significantly increase the tend their remarks and include extra- fense Security Cooperation Agency, trans- security of the people of the United neous material:) mitting notification concerning the Depart- Ms. WOOLSEY, for 5 minutes, today. ment of the Air Force’s Proposed Letter(s) of States as regards the borders. We have Offer and Acceptance (LOA) to the Taipei Mr. LIPINSKI, for 5 minutes, today. done a great deal to improve our abil- Economic and Cultural Representative Office ity to respond to the threats of terror- Ms. NORTON, for 5 minutes, today. in the United States for defense articles and ists in Afghanistan, in Iraq maybe Mr. PALLONE, for 5 minutes, today. services (Transmittal No. 02–05), pursuant to soon, in the Philippines, in the Repub- Mr. DINGELL, for 5 minutes, today. 22 U.S.C. 2776(b); to the Committee on Inter- lic of Georgia, the many other nations Ms. CARSON of Indiana, for 5 minutes, national Relations. where we have identified tentacles of today. 6194. A letter from the Director, Inter- national Cooperation, Department of De- the terrorist threat Al Qaeda. We have Mr. STRICKLAND, for 5 minutes, today. fense, transmitting a copy of Transmittal done a marvelous job. It is to the credit No. 08–02 which informs of the intention to of this President, this body, the Con- (The following Members (at the re- sign the Future Air Capabilities Projects gress of the United States and more quest of Mr. WELLER) to revise and ex- (FAC) Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) importantly to the people, the men and tend their remarks and include extra- between the United States, France, Ger- women who serve in the Armed Forces, neous material:) many, and the United Kingdom, pursuant to that we have been able to accomplish Mr. HANSEN, for 5 minutes, today. 22 U.S.C. 2767(f); to the Committee on Inter- national Relations. what we have been able to accomplish Mr. MORAN of Kansas, for 5 minutes, today. 6195. A letter from the Director, Inter- since 9/11. But it is not enough, Mr. national Cooperation, Department of De- Mr. WALDEN of Oregon, for 5 minutes, Speaker. fense, transmitting a copy of Transmittal today. We have one primary responsibility No. 07–02 which informs of the intention to Mr. GRUCCI, for 5 minutes, today. sign an Amendment to the Memorandum of here in this body, one thing that is Mr. KIRK, for 5 minutes, today. Understanding (MOU) between the United more important than making sure that (The following Member (at his own States, the United Kingdom, Canada, and we fund health and human services ac- request) to revise and extend his re- The Netherlands concerning the Cooperative tivities, education activities, transpor- marks and include extraneous mate- Framework for the System Development and tation and all of the other budget bills rial:) Demonstration (SDD) Phase of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Program and the Neth- that we deal with. Something more im- Mr. SCHROCK, for 5 minutes, today. portant than that is the protection of erlands Supplement between the United f States and The Netherlands, pursuant to 22 the life and property of the people of ADJOURNMENT U.S.C. 2767(f); to the Committee on Inter- this country. We shirk that responsi- national Relations. bility if we do not pay attention to our Mr. TANCREDO. Mr. Speaker, I move 6196. A letter from the Assistant Secretary borders, if we do not get some sort of that the House do now adjourn. for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, hold on our own immigration policy The motion was agreed to; accord- transmitting certification of a proposed and become a real nation. Because a ingly (at 11 o’clock and 14 minutes Manufacturing License Agreement with real nation has borders. It defends Japan [Transmittal No. DTC 12–02], pursuant p.m.), the House adjourned until to- to 22 U.S.C. 2776(d); to the Committee on them. It determines who comes across morrow, Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at International Relations. them to the best of its ability. It expels 10 a.m. 6197. A letter from the Assistant Secretary people who come across illegally. We f for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, laugh at that. We wink at it. It is a transmitting certification of a proposed joke. EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, Manufacturing License Agreement with ETC. Japan [Transmittal No. DTC 027–02], pursu- Let me tell you, Mr. Speaker, we will Under clause 8 of rule XII, executive ant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(d); to the Committee on not be laughing the next time we have International Relations. an incident. God forbid that another communications were taken from the 6198. A letter from the Assistant Secretary event occur in this Nation that we can Speaker’s table and referred as follows: for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, attribute to the evil intent of people 6188. A letter from the Assistant to the transmitting certification of a proposed li- who come here from other nations and Board, Board of Governors of the Federal Re- cense for the export of defense articles to serve System, transmitting the Board’s final who sneak across or come across le- India [Transmittal No. DTC 168–01], pursuant rule—Truth in Lending [Regulation Z; Dock- to 22 U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Committee on gally and stay beyond what they et No. R–1118] received April 5, 2002, pursuant International Relations. should or who lie to us for telling us to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 6199. A letter from the Assistant Secretary why they are coming in. All those peo- Financial Services. for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, ple coming in illegally, we have a re- 6189. A letter from the Secretary, Federal transmitting certification of a proposed li- sponsibility to do everything we can to Trade Commission, transmitting the Com- cense for the export of defense articles or de- protect the American citizens by de- mission’s final rule—Guides for the House- fense services sold commercially under a fending our borders. Do not shirk this hold Furniture Industry—received March 21, contract to Japan [Transmittal No. DTC 032– 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the 02], pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Com- responsibility, I beg my colleagues. It Committee on Energy and Commerce. mittee on International Relations. is our primary responsibility. God and 6190. A letter from the Secretary, Federal 6200. A letter from the Inspector General, the American people will judge us for Trade Commission, transmitting the Com- Railroad Retirement Board, transmitting our actions. mission’s final rule—Guide Concerning Fuel the semiannual report on activities of the April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1333 Office of Inspector General for the period worthiness Directives; SOCATA—Groupe Committee of the Whole House on the April 1, 2001, through September 30, 2001, pur- AEROSPATIALE Model TBM 700 Airplanes State of the Union and ordered to be suant to 5 U.S.C. app. (Insp. Gen. Act) sec- [Docket No. 2001–CE–10–AD; Amendment 39– printed. tion 5(b); to the Committee on Government 12644; AD 2002–03–03] (RIN: 2120–AA64) re- Reform. ceived March 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. f 6201. A letter from the FHWA Regulations 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- Officer, Department of Transportation, tation and Infrastructure. TIME LIMITATION OF REFERRED transmitting the Department’s final rule— 6210. A letter from the Program Analyst, BILL Right-of-Way and Real Estate; Program Ad- FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- Pursuant to clause 2 of rule XII the ministration [FHWA Docket No. FHWA–2001– mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- following action was taken by the 8624] (RIN: 2125–AE82) received March 22, worthiness Directives; CFM International, S. 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the A. CFM56–5 Series Turbofan Engines [Docket Speaker: Committee on Transportation and Infra- No. 2001–NE–20–AD; Amendment 39–12461; AD H.R. 3421. Referral to the Committee on structure. 2002–02–13] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received March Education and the Workforce extended for a 6202. A letter from the FMCSA Regulations 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to period ending not later than April 16, 2002. Officer, Department of Transportation, the Committee on Transportation and Infra- f transmitting the Department’s final rule— structure. Certification of Safety Auditors, Safety In- 6211. A letter from the Program Analyst, PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS vestigators, and Safety Inspectors [Docket FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- No. FMCSA–2001–11060] (RIN: 2126–AA64) re- mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- Under clause 2 of rule XII, public ceived March 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. worthiness Directives; Honeywell Inter- bills and resolutions were introduced 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- national, Inc., (formerly AlliedSignal, Inc., and severally referred, as follows: tation and Infrastructure. and Textron Lycoming) T5311A, T5311B, By Mr. MANZULLO (for himself and 6203. A letter from the Program Analyst, T5313B, T5317A, T5317B, T53–L–11, T53–L–11A, Ms. VELA´ ZQUEZ): FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- T53–L–11B, T53–L–11C, T53–L–11D, T53–L– H.R. 4231. A bill to improve small business mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- 11AS/SA, T53–L–13B, T53–L–13BS/SA, T53–L– advocacy, and for other purposes; to the worthiness Directives; Boeing Model 757 Se- 13BS/SB, and T53–L–703 Turboshaft Engines Committee on Small Business. ries Airplanes [Docket No. 2001–NM–07–AD; [Docket No. 2000–NE–34–AD; Amendment 39– By Mr. FERGUSON: Amendment 39–12632; AD 2002–02–04] (RIN: 12642; AD 2002–03–01] (RIN: 2120–AA64) re- H.R. 4232. A bill to extend the temporary 2120–AA64) received March 22, 2002, pursuant ceived March 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. suspension of duty on bromine-containing to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- compounds; to the Committee on Ways and Transportation and Infrastructure. tation and Infrastructure. Means. 6204. A letter from the Program Analyst, 6212. A letter from the Program Analyst, By Mr. FERGUSON: FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- FAA, Department Of Transportation, trans- H.R. 4233. A bill to extend the temporary mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- suspension of duty on filter blue green photo worthiness Directives; Airbus Model A300 B2 worthiness Directives; BAE Systems (Oper- dye; to the Committee on Ways and Means. and A300 B4; A300 B4–600, B4–600R, and F4– ations) Limited Model BAe 146 and Avro 146– By Mr. FERGUSON: 600R (Collectively Called A300–600); and RJ Series Airplanes [Docket No. 2001–NM– H.R. 4234. A bill to extend the temporary Model A310 Series Airplanes [Docket No. 224–AD; Amendment 39–12648; AD 2002–03–07] suspension of duty on a fluoride compound; 2001–NM–253–AD; Amendment 39–12633; AD (RIN: 2120–AA64) received March 22, 2002, pur- to the Committee on Ways and Means. 2002–02–05] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received March suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- By Mr. RAHALL (for himself, Mr. 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. the Committee on Transportation and Infra- ture. MURTHA, and Mr. STRICKLAND): structure. 6213. A letter from the Acting Director, Of- H.R. 4235. A bill to amend the Black Lung 6205. A letter from the Program Analyst, fice of Regulatory Law, Department of Vet- Benefits Act, and for other purposes; to the FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- erans’ Affairs, transmitting the Depart- Committee on Education and the Workforce. mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- ment’s final rule—Board of Veterans’ Ap- By Mr. ACEVEDO-VILA´ (for himself, worthiness Directives; Boeing Model 737–200, peals Rules of Practice: Claim for Death Mr. UNDERWOOD, and Mrs. –200C, –300, and –500 Series Airplanes [Docket Benefits by Survivor (RIN: 2900–AL11) re- CHRISTENSEN): No. 2000–NM–332–AD; Amendment 39–12636; ceived April 5, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. H.R. 4236. A bill to provide access to wel- AD 2002–02–08] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Veterans’ fare tools to help Americans get back to March 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. Affairs. work; to the Committee on Ways and Means, 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Transpor- f and in addition to the Committee on Energy tation and Infrastructure. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON and Commerce, for a period to be subse- 6206. A letter from the Program Analyst, PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS quently determined by the Speaker, in each FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- case for consideration of such provisions as mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports of fall within the jurisdiction of the committee worthiness Directives; Pilatus Britten-Nor- committees were delivered to the Clerk concerned. man Limited BN–2, BN–2A, BN–2B, and BN– for printing and reference to the proper By Mr. ACKERMAN: 2T Series Airplanes [Docket No. 2001–CE–38– calendar, as follows: H.R. 4237. A bill to provide for the liquida- AD; Amendment 39–12638; AD 2002–02–10] Mr. HANSEN: Committee on Resources. tion or reliquidation of certain entries of (RIN: 2120–AA64) received March 22, 2002, pur- H.R. 3955. A bill to designate certain Na- protective cases; to the Committee on Ways suant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Com- tional Forest System lands in the Common- and Means. mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- wealth of Puerto Rico as components of the By Mr. BECERRA: H.R. 4238. A bill to extend the temporary ture. National Wilderness Preservation System, 6207. A letter from the Program Analyst, suspension of duty on 5-[(3,5- and for other purposes; with an amendment FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- Dichlorophenyl)-thio]-4-(1-methylethyl-1)-(4- (Rept. 107–409). Referred to the Committee of mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- pyridin lmethyl)-1H-imidazole-2-methanol the Whole House on the State of the Union. worthiness Directives; Airbus Model A319, Mr. HANSEN: Committee on Resources. carbamate; to the Committee on Ways and A320, and A321 Series Airplanes [Docket No. H.R. 3421. A bill to provide adequate school Means. 2000–NM–413–AD; Amendment 39–12652; AD facilities within Yosemite National Park, By Mr. BECERRA: 2002–03–11] (RIN: 2120–AA64) received March and for other purposes; with an amendment H.R. 4239. A bill to extend the temporary 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to (Rept. 107–410 Pt. 1). Referred to the Com- suspension of duty on [4R-[3(2S,3S),4R]]-3-[2- the Committee on Transportation and Infra- mittee of the Whole House on the State of Hy-droxy-3-[(3-hydroxy-2-methyl-b structure. the Union. enzoyl)amino]-1-oxo-4-phenylbutyl]-5,5-di- 6208. A letter from the Program Analyst, Mrs. MYRICK: Committee on Rules. House methyl-N-](2-methyl penyl)-methyl]-4- FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- Resolution 388. Resolution providing for con- thiazolidine-carboxamide; to the Committee mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- sideration of the bill (H.R. 476) to amend on Ways and Means. worthiness Directives; BAE Systems (Oper- title 18, United States Code, to prohibit tak- By Mr. BECERRA: ations) Limited Model BAe 146 Series Air- ing minors across State lines in circumven- H.R. 4240. A bill to extend the temporary planes and Model Avro 146–RJ Series Air- tion of laws requiring the involvement of suspension of duty on (2E,4S)-4-(((2R,5S)-2- planes [Docket No. 2000–NM–266–AD; Amend- parents in abortion decisions (Rept. 107–411). ((4-Fluorophenyl)-methyl)-6-methyl-5-( (5- ment 39–12651; AD 2002–03–10] (RIN: 2120– Referred to the House Calendar. methyl-3-isoxazolyl)-carbonyl y)amino)-1,4- AA64) received March 22, 2002, pursuant to 5 dioxoheptyl)-amino)-5-((3S)-2-oxo-3- DISCHARGE OF COMMITTEE U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on pyrrolidiny l)-2-pentenoic acid, ethyl ester; Transportation and Infrastructure. Pursuant to clause 2 of rule XII, the to the Committee on Ways and Means. 6209. A letter from the Program Analyst, Committee on Education and the By Mr. BECERRA: FAA, Department of Transportation, trans- Workforce discharged from further H.R. 4241. A bill to suspend temporarily the mitting the Department’s final rule—Air- consideration. H.R. 3421 referred to the duty on 1H-imidazole,4-(1-methylethyl)-2- H1334 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 [(phenylmethoxy)methyl]-(9C 1); to the Com- By Mr. COBLE: H.R. 4281. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4261. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on Chemical RH water-based (iron tol- By Mr. BECERRA: duty on Difenoconazole; to the Committee uene sulfanate); to the Committee on Ways H.R. 4242. A bill to suspend temporarily the on Ways and Means. and Means. duty on Benzamide, N-methyl-2-[[3-[(1E)-2-(2- By Mr. COX: By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. pyridinyl—ethenyl]-1H-indazol-6- yl)thio]-; H.R. 4262. A bill to suspend temporarily the MYRICK): to the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on certain refracting and reflecting H.R. 4282. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. BECERRA: telescopes; to the Committee on Ways and duty on Chemical NR Ethanol-based (iron H.R. 4243. A bill to suspend temporarily the Means. toluene sulfanate); to the Committee on duty on 1(2H)-Quinolinecarboxylic acid, 4- By Mr. COYNE: Ways and Means. [[[3,5-bis(trifluoromethyl)phenyl] meth- H.R. 4263. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. yl](methoxycarbonyl)amino]-2-ethyl- 3,4- suspension of duty on Baytron M; to the MYRICK): dihydro-6-(trifluoromethyl)-, ethyl ester, Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4283. A bill to suspend temporarily the (2R,4S)-(9CI); to the Committee on Ways and By Mr. COYNE: duty on tantalum top/bottom inner shield, Means. H.R. 4264. A bill to extend the temporary tantalum pan, tantalum crucibles, tantalum By Mr. BECERRA: suspension of duty on Baytron P; to the rod, and tantalum wire; to the Committee on H.R. 4244. A bill to suspend temporarily the Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. duty on Disulfide,bis(3,5- By Mr. COYNE: By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. dichlorophenyl)(9C1); to the Committee on H.R. 4265. A bill to extend the temporary MYRICK): Ways and Means. suspension of duty on certain ion-exchange H.R. 4284. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. BECERRA: resins; to the Committee on Ways and duty on tantalum capacitor ink; to the Com- H.R. 4245. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. duty on Pyridine,4-[[4-(1-methylethyl)-2- Means. By Mr. COYNE: By Mr. DEMINT: [(phenylmethoxy)methyl]-1H- midazol-1-yl] H.R. 4285. A bill to suspend temporarily the methyl]- ethanedioate (1:2); to the Com- H.R. 4266. A bill to extend the temporary suspension of duty on Thionyl Chloride; to duty on certain cultured crystals; to the mittee on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. BECERRA: the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. COYNE: By Mr. DEMINT: H.R. 4246. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4286. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on 1H-Pyrazole-5-carboxamide,N-[2- H.R. 4267. A bill to extend the temporary suspension of duty on DEMT; to the Com- duty on certain manufacturing equipment; fluoro-5-[[3-[(1E)-2-(2-pyrid inyl)ethenyl]-1H- to the Committee on Ways and Means. indazol-6-yl]amino]phenyl]1,3-dimethyl-; to mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. COYNE: By Mr. DEMINT: the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4287. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. BECERRA: H.R. 4268. A bill to extend the temporary suspension of duty on PHBA (p- duty on certain manufacturing equipment; H.R. 4247. A bill to suspend temporarily the to the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 1H-imidazole-2-methanol,5-[(3,5- hydroxybenzoic acid); to the Committee on By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. dichlorophenyl)thio]-4-(1-me hlethyl)-1-(4- Ways and Means. By Mr. COYNE: MYRICK): pyridinylmethyl)-(9C1); to the Committee on H.R. 4288. A bill to suspend temporarily the Ways and Means. H.R. 4269. A bill to extend the temporary suspension of duty on Iminodisuccinate; to duty on nickel powder; to the Committee on By Mr. COBLE: Ways and Means. H.R. 4248. A bill to suspend temporarily the the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. COYNE: By Mr. DEMINT: duty on Paclobutrazole Technical; to the H.R. 4289. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4270. A bill to extend the temporary Committee on Ways and Means. duty on certain manufacturing equipment; suspension of duty on Mesamoll; to the Com- By Mr. COBLE: to the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4249. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. DEMINT: duty on Paclobutrazole 2SC; to the Com- By Mr. COYNE: H.R. 4290. A bill to provide for the liquida- H.R. 4271. A bill to extend the temporary mittee on Ways and Means. tion or reliquidation of certain entries of suspension of duty on Baytron C-R; to the By Mr. COBLE: certain manufacturing equipment; to the H.R. 4250. A bill to suspend temporarily the Committee on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. duty on Methidathion Technical; to the By Mr. COYNE: By Mr. DEMINT: Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4272. A bill to extend the temporary H.R. 4291. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. COBLE: suspension of duty on ortho-phenylphenol duty on certain manufacturing equipment; H.R. 4251. A bill to suspend temporarily the (OPP); to the Committee on Ways and to the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on Vanguard 75 WDG; to the Committee Means. on Ways and Means. By Mr. DEMINT: By Mr. COYNE (for himself and Mr. H.R. 4292. A bill to provide for the liquida- By Mr. COBLE: HOLDEN): H.R. 4252. A bill to suspend temporarily the tion or reliquidation of certain entries of H.R. 4273. A bill to extend the temporary certain manufacturing equipment; to the duty on WAKIL XL; to the Committee on suspension of duty on 11-Aminoundecanoic Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. acid; to the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. DEMINT: By Mr. COBLE: By Mr. COYNE: H.R. 4253. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4293. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4274. A bill to extend the suspension of duty on certain manufacturing equipment; duty on Oxasulfuron Technical; to the Com- duty on Vulkalent E/C; to the Committee on mittee on Ways and Means. to the Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. By Mr. DEMINT: By Mr. COBLE: By Mr. COYNE: H.R. 4254. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4294. A bill to provide for the liquida- H.R. 4275. A bill to suspend temporarily the tion or reliquidation of certain entries of duty on Mucochloric Acid; to the Committee duty on Phenylisocyanate; to the Committee on Ways and Means. certain manufacturing equipment; to the on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. COBLE: By Mr. COYNE: H.R. 4255. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. DEMINT: H.R. 4276. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on Azoxystrobin Technical; to the Com- H.R. 4295. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on Bayowet FT-248; to the Committee mittee on Ways and Means. duty on certain manufacturing equipment; on Ways and Means. By Mr. COBLE: to the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4256. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. COYNE: By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. duty on Flumetralin Technical; to the Com- H.R. 4277. A bill to suspend temporarily the MYRICK): mittee on Ways and Means. duty on APEC 1745; to the Committee on H.R. 4296. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. COBLE: Ways and Means. duty on barium titanate; to the Committee H.R. 4257. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. COYNE: on Ways and Means. duty on Cyprodinil Technical; to the Com- H.R. 4278. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. mittee on Ways and Means. duty on P-Phenylphenol; to the Committee MYRICK): By Mr. COBLE: on Ways and Means. H.R. 4297. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4258. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. CRANE: duty on thermal release plastic film; to the duty on Mixtures of Lambda-Cyhalothrin; to H.R. 4279. A bill to suspend temporarily the Committee on Ways and Means. the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on certain rubber riding boots; to the By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. By Mr. COBLE: Committee on Ways and Means. MYRICK): H.R. 4259. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. H.R. 4298. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on Primisulfuron; to the Committee on MYRICK): duty on certain formulated silver paints and Ways and Means. H.R. 4280. A bill to suspend temporarily the pastes to coat tantalum anodes colloidal pre- By Mr. COBLE: duty on aluminum etched foil; to the Com- cious metals; to the Committee on Ways and H.R. 4260. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. Means. duty on 1,2 Cyclohexanedione; to the Com- By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. mittee on Ways and Means. MYRICK): MYRICK): April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1335

H.R. 4299. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. HOLDEN: By Mr. LAHOOD: duty on polymer masking material for alu- H.R. 4319. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4334. A bill to suspend temporarily the minum capacitors (UPICOAT); to the Com- duty on p-Aminoazobenzene 4 sulfonic acid; duty on certain visual signaling equipment; mittee on Ways and Means. to the Committee on Ways and Means. to the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. ENGLISH: By Mr. HOLDEN: By Mr. LAHOOD: H.R. 4300. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4320. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4335. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on standard grade ferroniobium; to the duty on 3-[(4 Amino-3-Methoxyphenyl) Azo]- duty on certain machinery parts; to the Committee on Ways and Means. benzene sulfonic acid, monosodium salt; to Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. ENGLISH: the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. LAHOOD: H.R. 4301. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. HOLT: H.R. 4336. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on a certain chemical; to the Com- H.R. 4321. A bill to extend the temporary duty on certain parts of gearing, gear boxes, mittee on Ways and Means. suspension of duty on R115777; to the Com- and other speed changers; to the Committee By Mr. ENGLISH: mittee on Ways and Means. on Ways and Means. H.R. 4302. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. HOLT: By Mr. LAHOOD: duty on a certain chemical; to the Com- H.R. 4322. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4337. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. duty on ET–743; to the Committee on Ways duty on parts of fuel-injection pumps for By Mr. ENGLISH: and Means. compression-ignition engines; to the Com- H.R. 4303. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. HOLT: mittee on Ways and Means. duty on a certain chemical; to the Com- H.R. 4323. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. LAHOOD: mittee on Ways and Means. suspension of duty on Imazalil; to the Com- H.R. 4338. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. ENGLISH: duty on certain lubricating pumps; to the H.R. 4304. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. HOLT: Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4324. A bill to extend the temporary duty on a certain chemical; to the Com- By Mr. LAHOOD: suspension of duty on Norbloc 7966; to the mittee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4339. A bill to suspend temporarily the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. ENGLISH: duty on fuel-injection pumps for compres- By Mr. HOLT: H.R. 4305. A bill to suspend temporarily the sion ignition engines; to the Committee on H.R. 4325. A bill to extend the temporary Ways and Means. duty on a certain chemical; to the Com- suspension of duty on Fungaflor 500 EC; to mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. LAHOOD: the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4340. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. ENGLISH: By Mr. HOLT: H.R. 4306. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on certain engine parts; to the Com- H.R. 4326. A bill to suspend until December mittee on Ways and Means. duty on a certain chemical; to the Com- 31, 2006, the duty on Benzenepropanal, 4-(1,1- mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. LAHOOD: Dimethylethyl)-Alpha-Methyl-; to the Com- H.R. 4341. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. HASTINGS of Washington: mittee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4307. A bill to extend temporary sus- duty on certain engine parts; to the Com- By Mrs. KELLY: mittee on Ways and Means. pension of duty with respect to H.R. 4327. A bill to suspend temporarily the Ethofumesate; to the Committee on Ways By Mr. LAHOOD: duty on 2,7-Naphthalenedisulfonic acid, 5-[[4- H.R. 4342. A bill to suspend temporarily the and Means. chloro-6-[[2-[[4-fluoro-6-[[5-hydroxy-6-[(4- duty on certain compression-ignition inter- By Mr. HASTINGS of Washington: methoxy-2- sulfophenyl)azo]-7-sulfo-2- H.R. 4308. A bill to extend the temporary nal combustion piston engines; to the Com- naphthalenyl]amino]-1,3,5-triazin 2-yl] mittee on Ways and Means. suspension of duty with respect to amino]-1-methylethyl]amino]-1,3,5-triazin-2- Desmedipham; to the Committee on Ways By Mr. LAHOOD: yl]amino]-3-[[4- H.R. 4343. A bill to suspend temporarily the and Means. (ethenylsulfonyl)phenyl]azo]-4-hydrox’-, so- duty on marine propulsion engines; to the By Mr. HASTINGS of Washington: dium salt; to the Committee on Ways and Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4309. A bill to extend the temporary Means. By Mr. LAHOOD: suspension of duty with respect to By Mrs. KELLY: H.R. 4344. A bill to suspend temporarily the Phenmedipham; to the Committee on Ways H.R. 4328. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on certain tubes, pipes, and hoses; to and Means. duty on 1,5-Naphthalenedisulfonic acid, 3-[[2- the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. HASTINGS of Washington: (acetylamino)-4-[[4-[[2-[2- By Mr. LAHOOD: H.R. 4310. A bill to extend the temporary (ethenylsulfonyl)ethoxy]eth yl]amino]-6- H.R. 4345. A bill to suspend temporarily the suspension of duty with respect to Diclofop fluoro-1,3,5-triazin-2-yl]amino]phenyl]azo]-, duty on certain tubes, pipes, and hoses; to methyl; to the Committee on Ways and disodium salt; to the Committee on Ways the Committee on Ways and Means. Means. and Means. By Mr. LAMPSON: By Mr. HASTINGS of Washington: By Mrs. KELLY: H.R. 4346. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4311. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4329. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on PTFMBA; to the Committee on duty on endosulfan; to the Committee on duty on 7,7’-[1.3-propanediylbis[imino(6- Ways and Means. Ways and Means. fluoro-1,3,5-triazine-4,2-d iyl)imino[2- By Mr. LAMPSON: By Mr. HAYES: [(aminocarbonyl)amino]-4,1-phen- H.R. 4347. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4312. A bill to provide emergency agri- ylene]azo]]bis-, sodium salt; to the Com- duty on difluoroaniline; to the Committee on cultural assistance to producers of the 2002 mittee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. crop of certain agricultural commodities; to By Mrs. KELLY: By Mr. LANGEVIN: the Committee on Agriculture. H.R. 4330. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4348. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. HOLDEN: duty on Cuprate(3-), [2-[[[[3-[[4-[[2-[2- suspension of duty on Solvent Blue 124; to H.R. 4313. A bill to suspend temporarily the (ethenylsulfonyl)ethoxy]ethyl]amino]-6- the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 3-[(4 Amino-3-Methoxyphenyl) Azo]- fluoro-1,3,5-triazin- 2-yl]amino]-2-(hydroxy- By Mr. LANGEVIN: benzene sulfonic acid; to the Committee on .kappa.O)-5-sulfophenyl]azo-.kappa.N2 H.R. 4349. A bill to extend the temporary Ways and Means. ]phenylmethyl]azo-.kappa.N1]-4- suspension of duty on 4-Amino-2,5- By Mr. HOLDEN: sulfobenzoato(5-)-.kappa.O], trisodium; to dimethoxy-N-phenylbenzene sulfonamide; to H.R. 4314. A bill to suspend temporarily the the Committee on Ways and Means. the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 2-Methyl-5-nitrobenzenesulfonic By Mrs. KELLY: By Mr. LANGEVIN: acid; to the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4331. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4350. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. HOLDEN: duty on 1,5-Naphthalenedisulfonic acid, 2-[[8- suspension of duty on Solvent Blue 104; to H.R. 4315. A bill to suspend temporarily the [[4-[[3-[[[2- the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 2 Amino 6 Nitro Phenol 4 sulfonic (ethenylsulfonyl)ethyl]amino]carbonyl]phe By Mr. LANGEVIN: acid; to the Committee on Ways and Means. ny]amino]-6-fluoro-1,3,5-triazin-2-yl]amino]- H.R. 4351. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. HOLDEN: 1-hydroxy-3,6-d isulfo-2-naphthalenyl]azo]-, suspension of duty on Pigment Yellow 154; to H.R. 4316. A bill to suspend temporarily the tetrasodium salt; to the Committee on Ways the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 2 Amino 5 sulfobenzoic acid; to the and Means. By Mr. LANGEVIN: Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. KING: H.R. 4352. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. HOLDEN: H.R. 4332. A bill to designate the facility of suspension of duty on Pigment Yellow 175; to H.R. 4317. A bill to suspend temporarily the the United States Postal Service located at the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 2,5 bis [(1,3 Dioxobutyl) Amino] ben- 80 Killian Road in Massapequa, New York, as By Mr. LANGEVIN: zene sulfonic acid; to the Committee on the ‘‘Gerard A. Fiorenza Post Office Build- H.R. 4353. A bill to extend the temporary Ways and Means. ing’’; to the Committee on Government Re- suspension of duty on Pigment Red 208; to By Mr. HOLDEN: form. the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4318. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. LAHOOD: By Mr. LANGEVIN: duty on p-Aminoazobenzene 4 sulfonic acid, H.R. 4333. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4354. A bill to extend the temporary monosodium salt; to the Committee on Ways duty on certain certain wheel rims; to the suspension of duty on Pigment Red 187; to and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. the Committee on Ways and Means. H1336 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002 By Mr. LANGEVIN: H.R. 4371. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mrs. MYRICK: H.R. 4355. A bill to extend the temporary duty on Methoxy Methyl Triazolone; to the H.R. 4390. A bill to suspend temporarily the suspension of duty on Pigment Red 185; to Committee on Ways and Means. duty on Fast Navy Salt RA; to the Com- the Committee on Ways and Means. By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. LANGEVIN: herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. By Mrs. MYRICK: H.R. 4356. A bill to suspend temporarily the GRAVES): H.R. 4391. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on benzoic acid, 2-amino-4-[[(2,5- H.R. 4372. A bill to reduce temporarily the duty on Levafix Royal Blue E-FR; to the dichlorophenyl)amino]carbonyl]-, methyl duty on MKH 6562 Isocyanate; to the Com- Committee on Ways and Means. ester; to the Committee on Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. By Mrs. MYRICK: By Mr. LANGEVIN: By Mr. MCDERMOTT (for himself, Mr. H.R. 4392. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4357. A bill to suspend temporarily the WYNN, Mrs. CHRISTENSEN, Ms. KAP- duty on p-Chloro aniline; to the Committee duty on Pigment Red 176; to the Committee TUR, Mr. FROST, Mr. GEORGE MILLER on Ways and Means. on Ways and Means. of California, Mr. BONIOR, Mr. STARK, By Mrs. MYRICK: H.R. 4393. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. LANGEVIN: Mr. KUCINICH, Ms. LEE, Mr. UDALL of duty on esters and sodium esters of H.R. 4358. A bill to suspend temporarily the New Mexico, Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Parahydroxybenzoic Acid; to the Committee duty on p-amino benzamide; to the Com- Mr. ACEVEDO-VILA´ , and Mrs. MINK of on Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. Hawaii): By Mr. LANGEVIN: H.R. 4373. A bill to amend the Federal Un- By Mr. NADLER: H.R. 4394. A bill to amend the Internal Rev- H.R. 4359. A bill to suspend temporarily the employment Tax Act and the Social Security enue Code of 1986 to provide for regional cost duty on Pigment Yellow 214; to the Com- Act to modernize the unemployment insur- of living adjustments; to the Committee on mittee on Ways and Means. ance system, and for other purposes; to the Ways and Means. By Mr. LANGEVIN: Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts (for H.R. 4360. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. MEEKS of New York (for him- himself and Mr. AKIN): duty on Pigment Yellow 180; to the Com- self and Mr. FOLEY): H.R. 4395. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4374. A bill to amend the Internal Rev- duty on a certain chemical used in industrial By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for enue Code of 1986 to clarify the treatment of coatings formulation; to the Committee on herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. frequent flyer mileage awards; to the Com- Ways and Means. GRAVES): mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts (for H.R. 4361. A bill to reduce temporarily the By Mrs. MYRICK: himself and Mr. AKIN): duty on Imidacloprid pesticides; to the Com- H.R. 4375. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4396. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. duty on Levafix Golden Yellow E-G; to the duty on a certain chemical used in industrial By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for Committee on Ways and Means. coatings formulation; to the Committee on herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. By Mrs. MYRICK: Ways and Means. GRAVES): H.R. 4376. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts (for H.R. 4362. A bill to reduce temporarily the duty on Levafix Blue CA/Remazol Blue CA; himself and Mr. AKIN): duty on FOE Hydroxy; to the Committee on to the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4397. A bill to suspend temporarily the Ways and Means. By Mrs. MYRICK: duty on a certain chemical used in industrial By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for H.R. 4377. A bill to suspend temporarily the coatings formulation; to the Committee on herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. duty on Remazol Yellow RR Gran; to the Ways and Means. GRAVES): Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts (for H.R. 4363. A bill to reduce temporarily the By Mrs. MYRICK: himself and Mr. AKIN): duty on Alkylketone; to the Committee on H.R. 4378. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4398. A bill to suspend temporarily the Ways and Means. duty on Indanthren Blue CLF; to the Com- duty on a certain chemical used in industrial By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for mittee on Ways and Means. coatings formulation; to the Committee on herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. By Mrs. MYRICK: Ways and Means. GRAVES): H.R. 4379. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts (for H.R. 4364. A bill to reduce temporarily the suspension of duty on Sodium petroleum himself and Mr. AKIN): duty on Beta-cyfluthrin; to the Committee sulfonate; to the Committee on Ways and H.R. 4399. A bill to suspend temporarily the on Ways and Means. Means. duty on a certain chemical used in industrial By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for By Mrs. MYRICK: coatings formulation; to the Committee on H.R. 4380. A bill to suspend temporarily the herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. Ways and Means. duty on Chloroacetic acid; to the Committee GRAVES): By Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts (for H.R. 4365. A bill to suspend temporarily the on Ways and Means. himself and Mr. AKIN): duty on Imidacloprid Technical; to the Com- By Mrs. MYRICK: H.R. 4400. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4381. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. duty on a certain chemical used in industrial duty on Indanthren Yellow F3GC; to the By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for coatings formulation; to the Committee on Committee on Ways and Means. herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. Ways and Means. By Mrs. MYRICK: GRAVES): By Mr. NETHERCUTT: H.R. 4382. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4366. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4401. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on Acetyl Chloride; to the Committee duty on Bayleton Technical; to the Com- duty on RWJ 241947; to the Committee on on Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. By Mrs. MYRICK: By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for By Mr. NETHERCUTT: H.R. 4383. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4402. A bill to suspend temporarily the herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. duty on 4-Methoxy-phenacychloride; to the duty on RWJ 394718; to the Committee on GRAVES): Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4367. A bill to suspend temporarily the Ways and Means. By Mrs. MYRICK: duty on Propoxur Technical; to the Com- By Mr. NETHERCUTT: H.R. 4384. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4403. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. duty on 3-Methoxy-thiophenol; to the Com- duty on RWJ 394720; to the Committee on By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for mittee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. By Mrs. MYRICK: By Mr. NUSSLE: GRAVES): H.R. 4385. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4404. A bill to amend the Harmonized H.R. 4368. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on Levafix Brilliant Red E-6BA; to the Tariff Schedule of the United States to pro- duty on MKH 6561 Isocyanate; to the Com- Committee on Ways and Means. vide duty-free treatment for certain log for- mittee on Ways and Means. By Mrs. MYRICK: warders used as motor vehicles for the trans- By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for H.R. 4386. A bill to extend the temporary port of goods; to the Committee on Ways and herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. suspension of duty on Isobornyl Acetate; to Means. GRAVES): the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. PENCE: H.R. 4369. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mrs. MYRICK: H.R. 4405. A bill to extend the temporary duty on Propoxy Methyl Triazolone; to the H.R. 4387. A bill to suspend temporarily the suspension of duty on diethyl Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 2,4-xylidine; to the Committee on phosphorochidothioate; to the Committee on By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for Ways and Means. Ways and Means. herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. By Mrs. MYRICK: By Mr. PENCE: GRAVES): H.R. 4388. A bill to extend the temporary H.R. 4406. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4370. A bill to suspend temporarily the suspension of duty on certain TAED chemi- duty on 3,4-DCBN; to the Committee on duty on Nemacur VL; to the Committee on cals; to the Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. Ways and Means. By Mrs. MYRICK: By Mr. PENCE: By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri (for H.R. 4389. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4407. A bill to extend the temporary herself, Mr. SKELTON, and Mr. duty on Remazol Br. Blue BB 133%; to the suspension of duty on 2,6-dichloroaniline; to GRAVES): Committee on Ways and Means. the Committee on Ways and Means. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1337 By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. PENCE: the Federal Government, including the H.R. 4408. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4430. A bill to extend the temporary downpayment assistance initiative under the duty on Cyhalofop; to the Committee on suspension of duty on quinoline; to the Com- HOME Investment Partnerships Act, and for Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. other purposes; to the Committee on Finan- By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. PENCE: cial Services. H.R. 4409. A bill to extend the temporary H.R. 4431. A bill to extend the temporary By Mrs. ROUKEMA (for herself, Mr. suspension of duty on benfluralin; to the suspension of duty on 2-Phenylphenol; to the ROTHMAN, and Mr. DOOLEY of Cali- Committee on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. fornia): By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. PENCE: H.R. 4447. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4410. A bill to extend the temporary H.R. 4432. A bill to extend the temporary duty on certain prepared or preserved arti- suspension of duty on 1,3-diethyl-2- suspension of duty on tebufenozide; to the chokes, not frozen; to the Committee on imidazolidinone; to the Committee on Ways Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. and Means. By Mr. PENCE: By Mrs. ROUKEMA (for herself, Mr. By Mr. PENCE: H.R. 4433. A bill to extend the temporary ROTHMAN, and Mr. DOOLEY of Cali- H.R. 4411. A bill to suspend temporarily the suspension of duty on 3-amino-5-mercapto- fornia): duty on ethalfluralin; to the Committee on 1,2,4-triazole; to the Committee on Ways and H.R. 4448. A bill to suspend temporarily the Ways and Means. Means. duty on certain prepared or preserved arti- By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. PENCE: chokes; to the Committee on Ways and H.R. 4412. A bill to extend the temporary H.R. 4434. A bill to suspend temporarily the Means. suspension of duty on diphenyl sulfide; to duty on Gallery; to the Committee on Ways By Mr. SIMMONS: the Committee on Ways and Means. and Means. H.R. 4449. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. PENCE: duty on combed cashmere and camel hair H.R. 4413. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4435. A bill to extend the temporary yarn; to the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on Asulam; to the Committee on Ways suspension of duty on 4,4-dimethoxy-2-buta- By Mr. SIMMONS: and Means. none; to the Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4450. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. PENCE: duty on carded cashmere yarn of 6 run or H.R. 4414. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4436. A bill to extend the temporary finer; to the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on 2-methyl-4-chlorophenoxyacetic suspension of duty on Fenbuconazole; to the By Mr. STRICKLAND (for himself and acid; to the Committee on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. Mr. NEY): By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. PENCE: H.R. 4451. A bill to amend the Harmonized H.R. 4415. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4437. A bill to extend the temporary Tariff Schedule of the United States to pro- duty on Florasulam; to the Committee on suspension of duty on Diiodomethyl-p- vide separate subheadings for low-energy Ways and Means. tolylsulfone; to the Committee on Ways and magnets and articles containing magnets By Mr. PENCE: Means. and to create additional U.S. notes explain- H.R. 4416. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. PENCE: ing the tariff classification of low-energy suspension of duty on DMDS; to the Com- H.R. 4438. A bill to suspend temporarily the magnets and articles containing magnets; to mittee on Ways and Means. duty on trifluralin; to the Committee on the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. PENCE: Ways and Means. By Mr. WATKINS (for himself and Mr. H.R. 4417. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. PETERSON of Pennsylvania: POMEROY): duty on Propanil; to the Committee on Ways H.R. 4439. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4452. A bill to amend title XVIII to and Means. duty on certain polyamides; to the Com- provide for a 5-year extension of the author- By Mr. PENCE: mittee on Ways and Means. ization for appropriations for certain Medi- H.R. 4418. A bill to extend the temporary By Mr. PETRI: care rural grants; to the Committee on Ways suspension of duty on Methoxyfenozide; to H.R. 4440. A bill to suspend temporarily the and Means. the Committee on Ways and Means. duty on fixed-ratio gear changers for truck- By Mr. WILSON of South Carolina: By Mr. PENCE: mounted concrete mixers; to the Committee H.R. 4453. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4419. A bill to extend the temporary on Ways and Means. duty on Sulfur Black 1; to the Committee on suspension of duty on halofenozide; to the By Mr. POMBO: Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. H.R. 4441. A bill to reduce the duty on cer- By Mr. WILSON of South Carolina: By Mr. PENCE: tain straw hats; to the Committee on Ways H.R. 4454. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4420. A bill to suspend temporarily the and Means. duty on Reduced Vat Blue 43; to the Com- duty on Myclobutanil; to the Committee on By Ms. PRYCE of Ohio (for herself and Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. Mr. TIBERI): By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. WILSON of South Carolina: H.R. 4442. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4455. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4421. A bill to extend the temporary duty on certain necks used in cathode ray suspension of duty on Starane F; to the Com- duty on Fluorobenzene; to the Committee on tubes; to the Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. RANGEL: By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. WILSON of South Carolina: H.R. 4443. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4456. A bill to extend the suspension of H.R. 4422. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on polytetramethylene ether glycol; to duty on Ortho-phthalaldehyde; to the Com- duty on Propiophenone; to the Committee on the Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. RANGEL: By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. WILSON of South Carolina: H.R. 4444. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4457. A bill to extend the suspension of H.R. 4423. A bill to extend the temporary duty on magnesium aluminum hydroxide suspension of duty on Triazamate; to the duty on Meta-chlorobenzaldehyde; to the carbonate hydrate; to the Committee on Committee on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. WILSON of South Carolina: By Mr. RANGEL: H.R. 4424. A bill to suspend temporarily the H.R. 4458. A bill to extend the suspension of H.R. 4445. A bill to suspend temporarily the duty on trans 1,3-dichloropentene; to the duty on 4-bromo-2-fluoroacetanilide; to the duty on leaf alcohol; to the Committee on Committee on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. Ways and Means. By Mr. PENCE: By Mr. WILSON of South Carolina: H.R. 4425. A bill to suspend temporarily the By Mr. ROGERS of Michigan (for him- H.R. 4459. A bill to extend the suspension of duty on methacrylamide; to the Committee self, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, duty on 2,6, Dichlorotoluene; to the Com- on Ways and Means. Mr. ISSA, Mr. SULLIVAN, Mr. mittee on Ways and Means. By Mr. PENCE: BOOZMAN, Ms. HART, Mrs. CAPITO, Mr. By Mr. DEMINT (for himself and Mrs. H.R. 4426. A bill to suspend temporarily the GRUCCI, Mr. SCHROCK, Mr. AKIN, Mr. MYRICK): duty on Cation Exchange Resin; to the Com- SIMMONS, Mr. CHAMBLISS, Mr. BACH- H.R. 4460. A bill to suspend temporarily the mittee on Ways and Means. US, Mrs. KELLY, Mr. BEREUTER, Mr. duty on tantalum powder; to the Committee By Mr. PENCE: CANTOR, Mrs. BIGGERT, Mrs. ROU- on Ways and Means. H.R. 4427. A bill to extend the temporary KEMA, Mr. FLETCHER, Mr. FOLEY, Mr. By Mr. RILEY (for himself, Mr. suspension of duty on Propiconazole; to the HORN, Mr. RILEY, Mr. KENNEDY of ADERHOLT, Mr. BACHUS, Mr. CAL- Committee on Ways and Means. Minnesota, Mr. FERGUSON, Mrs. JOHN- LAHAN, Mr. CRAMER, Mr. EVERETT, By Mr. PENCE: SON of Connecticut, Mr. SHAYS, Mr. and Mr. HILLIARD): H.R. 4428. A bill to extend the temporary LATOURETTE, Mr. OXLEY, Mr. KEL- H. Con. Res. 377. Concurrent resolution ex- suspension of duty on B-Bromo-B- LER, Mr. MCHUGH, Mr. TIBERI, Mr. pressing the sense of Congress regarding the nitrostyrene; to the Committee on Ways and NEY, Mr. COOKSEY, Mr. EHRLICH, Mr. establishment by the Hyundai Motor Com- Means. GREEN of Wisconsin, Mr. ISRAEL, Mr. pany of its first automotive manufacturing By Mr. PENCE: CLAY, Mr. ROSS, Ms. KILPATRICK, Mr. facility in the United States; to the Com- H.R. 4429. A bill to suspend temporarily the CUMMINGS, and Mr. RUSH): mittee on Energy and Commerce. duty on Oryzalin; to the Committee on Ways H.R. 4446. A bill to support certain housing By Mr. NEY (for himself and Mr. and Means. proposals in the fiscal year 2003 budget for HOYER): H1338 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE April 16, 2002

H. Con. Res. 378. Concurrent resolution H.R. 1041: Ms. HART. H.R. 2957: Mr. PENCE and Mr. OWENS. commending the District of Columbia Na- H.R. 1073: Mr. HILLEARY. H.R. 3058: Mr. BECERRA and Ms. WATSON. tional Guard, the National Guard Bureau, H.R. 1081: Mr. PETRI. H.R. 3113: Mr. COYNE. and the entire Department of Defense for the H.R. 1109: Mr. STEARNS, Mr. PICKERING, Mr. H.R. 3231: Mr. UDALL of Colorado and Mr. assistance provided to the United States SHADEGG, Mr. JENKINS, Mr. LATHAM, Mr. COOKSEY. Capitol Police and the entire Congressional LUCAS of Oklahoma, and Mr. BARTLETT of H.R. 3234: Mr. ALLEN. H.R. 3278: Mr. RAHALL. community in response to the terrorist and Maryland. H.R. 3321: Mr. SWEENEY and Mrs. MCCAR- anthrax attacks of September and October H.R. 1198: Mr. LATOURETTE, Mr. NEY, and THY of New York. 2001; to the Committee on House Administra- Mr. HOLDEN. H.R. 3333: Mr. KERNS. H.R. 1239: Mrs. DAVIS of California. tion. H.R. 3388: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois and Mrs. H.R. 1262: Mr. LEVIN, Mr. BONIOR, and Mr. By Mr. ROGERS of Michigan: KELLY. LANTOS. H. Con. Res. 379. Concurrent resolution rec- H.R. 3397: Mr. HOYER. H.R. 1265: Mr. PRICE of North Carolina. ognizing the efforts and activities of the Na- H.R. 3435: Mr. MASCARA. tional SAFE KIDS Campaign to prevent all H.R. 1305: Mr. GILMAN, Mr. ISTOOK, and Mr. H.R. 3450: Mr. MORAN of Virginia, Mr. unintentional injuries among children, in- WEINER. BECERRA, Mr. BASS, Mr. WEINER, Mr. BAIRD, H.R. 1353: Mr. MASCARA. cluding bicycle-related traumatic brain inju- Mrs. TAUSCHER, and Mr. VITTER. ries; to the Committee on Energy and Com- H.R. 1421: Mr. LOBIONDO. H.R. 3476: Mr. CALVERT. merce. H.R. 1436: Mr. BERRY and Mr. PHELPS. H.R. 3478: Mr. MASCARA. By Mr. SENSENBRENNER: H.R. 1475: Mr. WEINER and Ms. KAPTUR. H.R. 3553: Mr. SNYDER. H. Res. 387. A resolution providing for the H.R. 1524: Mr. SOUDER. H.R. 3569: Mr. MASCARA. expulsion of Representative James A. Trafi- H.R. 1556: Mr. SULLIVAN, Mr. CANTOR, Mr. H.R. 3573: Mr. PAUL. cant, Jr., from the House of Representatives; COMBEST, Mr. PASTOR, Ms. MCKINNEY, Mr. H.R. 3605: Mr. BARR of Georgia. to the Committee on Standards of Official LUCAS of Kentucky, Mr. GANSKE, and Mr. H.R. 3611: Mr. GOODLATTE. Conduct. TERRY. H.R. 3615: Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. H.R. 3618: Mr. RILEY. By Ms. SANCHEZ: H.R. 1581: Mr. DICKS. H.R. 3626: Mr. HORN and Mr. PETERSON of H. Res. 389. A resolution providing for the H.R. 1598: Mr. HOLT, Mr. LEACH, and Mr. Minnesota. expulsion of Representative James A. Trafi- BAIRD. H.R. 3679: Mr. HASTINGS of Florida and Mr. cant, Jr., from the House of Representatives; H.R. 1602: Mr. JEFF MILLER of Florida. PAYNE. to the Committee on Standards of Official H.R. 1609: Mr. TERRY. H.R. 1671: Mr. TOWNS, Ms. MCCOLLUM, and H.R. 3684: Mr. SCHROCK and Mr. OTTER. Conduct. Mr. FRANK. H.R. 3686: Mr. CALVERT and Mr. PHELPS. f H.R. 1759: Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. H.R. 3698: Ms. HART. H.R. 1795: Mr. MALONEY of Connecticut, Mr. H.R. 3717: Mr. TANCREDO and Mr. HOEK- PRIVATE BILLS AND STRA. RESOLUTIONS ROSS, and Mr. CRAMER. H.R. 1808: Mr. HEFLEY. H.R. 3747: Mr. UDALL of Colorado and Ms. Under clause 3 of rule XII, private H.R. 1873: Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island. SOLIS. H.R. 3794: Mr. WU, Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN, Mr. bills and resolutions of the H.R. 1919: Mr. LATHAM. H.R. 1943: Mr. BOUCHER, Mr. GORDON, Mr. CUMMINGS, Mr. GEKAS, Mrs. MORELLA, Mr. followingtitles were introduced and LANGEVIN, Ms. SANCHEZ, and Mr. MARKEY. severally referred, as follows: GIBBONS, and Ms. MCCOLLUM. H.R. 1956: Mr. NETHERCUTT and Mr. LEWIS H.R. 3831: Mr. CLEMENT, Mr. HEFLEY, and By Mr. DEMINT: of Kentucky. Mr. PETERSON of Minnesota. H.R. 3834: Mr. RANGEL. H.R. 4461. A bill to provide for the liquida- H.R. 1979: Mr. BARR of Georgia and Ms. H.R. 3842: Mr. CALVERT. tion or reliquidation of entries ofcertain DUNN. H.R. 3847: Mr. ANDREWS and Mr. PAYNE. manufacturing equipment;to the Committee H.R. 1983: Mr. GARY G. MILLER of Cali- H.R. 3887: Ms. WOOLSEY, Mrs. MEEK of Flor- on Ways and Means. fornia and Mr. ABERCROMBIE. ida, Mr. HOLT, Mr. LARSEN of Washington, By Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN: H.R. 2002: Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. H.R. 4462. A bill to provide for the reliqui- Mr. PASTOR, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. MORAN WELLER, Mr. TERRY, and Mr. VISCLOSKY. of Virginia, Mr. GILMAN, Mr. GONZALEZ, Ms. dation of certain entries;to the Committee H.R. 2073: Mr. ABERCROMBIE. KILPATRICK, Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Mrs. on Ways and Means. H.R. 2125: Mr. HEFLEY, Mr. LYNCH, and Mr. MALONEY of New York, Mr. ACKERMAN, Mr. By Ms. MCCARTHY of Missouri: FORD. H.R. 4463. A bill to provide for the liquida- NADLER, Mrs. MINK of Hawaii, Ms. BROWN of H.R. 2148: Mrs. MINK of Hawaii. Florida, Mr. MATSUI, Ms. HARMAN, Ms. tion or reliquidation of certain entries;to the H.R. 2163: Mr. LARSEN of Washington and LOFGREN, Mr. BRADY of Pennsylvania, and Committee on Ways and Means. Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. ALLEN. By Mr. ROGERS of Michigan: H.R. 2219: Mr. WELLER, Mr. GREENWOOD, H.R. 4464. A bill to provide for reliquida- H.R. 3952: Ms. LEE and Mr. FILNER. Mr. KLECZKA, and Mr. COOKSEY. tion pursuant to section 1003 of H.R. 3972: Mr. PAUL. H.R. 2220: Mr. FOLEY. theMiscellaneous Trade and Technical Cor- H.R. 3974: Ms. HART. H.R. 2290: Mrs. JOHNSON of Connecticut. H.R. 3976: Mr. KLECZKA. rections Act of 1999;to the Committee on H.R. 2316: Mr. HOSTETTLER, Mr. MANZULLO, Ways and Means. H.R. 4000: Mr. WALSH, Mr. GREEN of Wis- Mr. SHUSTER, Mr. SIMPSON, and Mr. BACHUS. consin, Ms. HART, Mr. FROST, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. By Ms. SANCHEZ: H.R. 2347: Mr. SHUSTER. H.R. 4465. A bill to provide for the reliqui- OWENS, Mr. PALLONE, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode H.R. 2349: Mr. MOORE and Mr. LARSON of dation of entries of certain machines usedto Island, and Mr. HILLIARD. Connecticut. H.R. 4014: Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. replicate optical discs;to the Committee on H.R. 2374: Mr. ROGERS of Michigan. Ways and Means. HOEFFEL, Mr. LANTOS, Ms. DELAURO, Mr. H.R. 2419: Mr. MCGOVERN. STUPAK, Mrs. MINK of Hawaii, and Mrs. f H.R. 2462: Mr. LIPINSKI and Mr. ISRAEL. KELLY. H.R. 2466: Mr. PAUL, Mr. HILLEARY, Mr. ADDITIONAL SPONSORS H.R. 4018: Mr. RODRIGUEZ and Mr. DOYLE, Mr. BONILLA, Mr. LEWIS of Kentucky, LATOURETTE. Under clause 7 of rule XII, sponsors and Mr. TURNER. H.R. 4019: Ms. HART. were added to public bills and resolu- H.R. 2487: Mr. BROWN of Ohio and Mr. CLAY. H.R. 4037: Ms. SOLIS. tions as follows: H.R. 2569: Mr. CHAMBLISS. H.R. 4038: Ms. LEE. H.R. 2605: Mr. ALLEN. H.R. 4043: Mr. CULBERSON and Ms. HART. H.R. 122: Mr. LOBIONDO, Mr. PETERSON of H.R. 2623: Mr. ROTHMAN. H.R. 4066: Mr. MCNULTY, Mr. PASTOR, Mr. Minnesota, Mr. LUCAS of Kentucky, Mr. H.R. 2638: Mr. DOOLITTLE and Mr. KING. SULLIVAN, Mr. MATHESON, Mr. RANGEL, Mr. SIMPSON, Mr. LEACH, Mr. TOM DAVIS of Vir- H.R. 2695: Mr. TANCREDO. LEVIN, Mr. WEXLER, Mrs. LOWEY, Mrs. JONES ginia, Mr. FORBES, and Mr. MANZULLO. H.R. 2714: Mr. ADERHOLT, Mr. FLAKE, Mr. of Ohio, Mr. SANDERS, Mr. CAPUANO, Mr. H.R. 168: Mr. SIMPSON. CHAMBLISS, Mr. CALVERT, and Mr. H.R. 448: Mr. FILNER. LATOURETTE, Mr. KING, Mr. PRICE of North H.R. 647: Mr. SCHROCK. HOSTETTLER. Carolina, Mr. HOLT, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Mr. H.R. 648: Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia. H.R. 2735: Mr. PLATTS, Mr. PETRI, Mr. MEEHAN, Mr. DICKS, Mrs. MALONEY of New H.R. 721: Ms. WATSON, Mr. SCHIFF, and Mr. TANCREDO, and Mr. LATOURETTE. York, Mr. CARSON of Oklahoma, Ms. CARSON HOSTETTLER. H.R. 2817: Mr. FOLEY and Mr. KING. of Indiana, Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of H.R. 792: Ms. HOOLEY of Oregon. H.R. 2820: Mr. SHOWS, Mr. MASCARA Ms. Texas, Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York, Mr. H.R. 848: Mr. ISRAEL, Mr. SULLIVAN, Mr. DELAURO, and Mr. HALL of Ohio. NADLER, Mr. FRANK, Mr. MATSUI, and Mr. PASCRELL, Mr. MALONEY of Connecticut, Mr. H.R. 2867: Mr. MANZULLO and Mr. CARSON of FOLEY. STRICKLAND, and Mr. SHIMKUS. Oklahoma. H.R. 4071: Mr. HOEKSTRA. H.R. 854: Mr. TERRY, Mr. OLVER, Mrs. H.R. 2874: Mr. BLAGOJEVICH, Mrs. JO ANN H.R. 4086: Mr. INSLEE, Mr. MOORE, Mr. DAVIS of California, and Mr. HUNTER. DAVIS of Virginia, and Ms. KAPTUR. LYNCH, and Mr. HORN. H.R. 951: Mr. TAUZIN, Mr. PAUL, Mrs. H.R. 2878: Mr. STRICKLAND. H.R. 4090: Mr. BARR of Georgia, Mr. MCCARTHY of New York, Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN, H.R. 2941: Mr. MALONEY of Connecticut, Mr. HAYWORTH, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, and MR. CRENSHAW. SOUDER, and Mrs. MINK of Hawaii. and Mr. SHAYS. April 16, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H1339

H.R. 4104: Mr. LUCAS of Kentucky. H. Con. Res. 114: Mr. LYNCH, Mr. SNYDER, H. Con. Res. 359: Mr. FROST, Mr. KILDEE, H.R. 4119: Mr. ROHRABACHER, Mr. CROWLEY, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. and Mr. FRANK. and Mr. FORBES. OWENS, Mr. FATTAH, Ms. LEE, Mr. ENGEL, Mr. H. Con. Res. 371: Mr. BOOZMAN, Mr. EHR- H.R. 4152: Mr. PICKERING, Mr. YOUNG of TOWNS, Ms. KAPTUR, Ms. WATSON, Mr. LICH, Mr. LEWIS of California, Mr. CASTLE, Florida, Mr. WICKER, Mr. FORBES, and Mr. HASTINGS of Florida, Mr. FRANK, Mr. CLAY, Mr. FILNER Mrs. DAVIS of California, Ms. TIBERI. Ms. BROWN of Florida, and Ms. CARSON of In- BROWN of Florida, Ms. HARMAN, Mr. BAIRD H.R. 4156: Mr. WELLER, Mr. PICKERING, Mr. diana. Mr. COYNE, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. SOUDER, Mr. HAYES, Ms. HART, Mr. WATKINS, H. Con. Res. 162: Mr. CANTOR. OSE Mr. HALL of Ohio, Mr. FORBES, Mr. Mr. SHIMKUS, Mr. BACHUS, Mr. TANNER, Mr. H. Con. Res. 222: Mr. GORDON and Mr. PENCE, Mr. CRAMER Mr. MORAN of Virginia, STUMP, Mr. PETERSON of Minnesota, Mr. FORBES. Mr. RADANOVICH, Mr. BRADY of Pennsylvania, KIND, and Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. H. Con. Res. 291: Mr. FOLEY and Ms. MCKIN- and Mr. WYNN. H.R. 4158: Mr. RANGEL. NEY H. Res. 225: Mr. FOLEY. H.R. 4169: Mr. CANNON. . H.R. 4193: Ms. MCCOLLUM. H. Con. Res. 315: Mr. STENHOLM and Mr. H. Res. 295: Mr. PENCE. H.R. 4197: Mr. MCGOVERN. CALVERT. H. Res. 361: Mr. MCHUGH, Ms. BALDWIN, and H.R. 4198: Mr. MCGOVERN. H. Con. Res. 340: Mr. OWENS and Mr. FROST. Mr. FATTAH.